the i dont care about politics anymore thread

[Reiwa]

According to Tucker, the gallows they built at the Capitol was an art project and the violent thugs chanting "Hang Mike Pence" were just speaking in metaphor.

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[Kaveh]

Yeah, doing structural criticism doesn't mean people aren't employed, but feel free to assume that and offer boomer advice for coping in an economy that no longer exists

Horseshoe theory is a big misunderstanding by foolish centrists, just because Far Left and Far Right might both complain about similar things sometimes we all know their actions are wildly different to address those things

Nah, you both want violence because you won’t get a job

Homelessness, fentanyl, domestic violence…
Structural causes, sure, life isn’t fair and it’s getting worse with our very corrupt political system, but ultimately individuals are making bad choices. Make far less of them and you’d be surprised how much better the world would be

Or blame everyone else like a pussy for your own problems and continue to solve nothing. Far left and far right often promise things they can’t deliver and they govern very poorly. Syriza raised taxes in Greece and Law and Justice in Poland can’t survive without dolling EU money. Both full of shit. If you were to look at Latin America, their far left and far right function purely to exact violence or institute state graft.

It never works man. It would not be hard with will to ban lobbying and have ranked choice voting. That would make more of a difference than all the rioting in the world

[robayon]

It would not be hard with will to ban lobbying and have ranked choice voting. That would make more of a difference than all the rioting in the worldMaybe it would, but nobody has summoned that will in America and that isn't what is happening

[Jibartik]

I will never forgive the democrats for changing their stance on art being something we should fear.

[Elizondo]

Dems are whining that the oil companies are making record profits (now that Biden is in office)

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[Reiwa]

Maybe it would, but nobody has summoned that will in America and that isn't what is happening

A lifetime of economic despair for some, a robust family life and frequent vacations for others.

🇺🇲🥲

[Horza]

I will never forgive the democrats for changing their stance on art being something we should fear.

Five people died at an art installation just because your diaper-wearing messianic figure lost so badly.

[Mblake1981]

Five people died at an art installation just because your diaper-wearing messianic figure lost so badly.

You don't care about those people but it sticks on Jib pretty good doesn't it.

[Jibartik]

Five people died at an art installation just because your diaper-wearing messianic figure lost so badly.

thats like saying ban heavy metal because someone died at a concernt.

Also 1 of them died at the art installation because she was shot by cops and the rest died of covid like a year later.

Also we all know you care not for the lives of others. So get real. Who are you trynig to fool, like some random new player that runs across this post? You're a monster and you know it.

[Botten]

Dems are whining that the oil companies are making record profits (now that Biden is in office)

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Political side means nothing they would still be making record profits only the Republican would be asking for some of that cash in exchange for even more land the oil companies still wouldn’t drill on.

The companies are choosing to enjoy their high profits rather than increase the supply of oil. That's despite the relatively low oil price they would need to turn a profit. Oil executives have said oil prices between $23 and $38 a barrel, on average, would cover the cost of drilling new wells.

When the oil companies and or drilling companies are acting together that’s gaming the system.

I am curious what emergency powers Biden may enact. I know you Trumptards are waiting in the shadows poised to shout socialism.

[Elizondo]

Political side means nothing they would still be making record profits only the Republican would be asking for some of that cash in exchange for even more land the oil companies still wouldn’t drill on.

The companies are choosing to enjoy their high profits rather than increase the supply of oil. That's despite the relatively low oil price they would need to turn a profit. Oil executives have said oil prices between $23 and $38 a barrel, on average, would cover the cost of drilling new wells.

When the oil companies and or drilling companies are acting together that’s gaming the system.

I am curious what emergency powers Biden may enact. I know you Trumptards are waiting in the shadows poised to shout socialism.

Gas was 2 bucks a gallon when The Great Maga King left office

Now it's 5$

Biden playin you dumb libtards like a fiddle

[Horza]

According to Tucker, Biden's FDA is banning Juul to ruin your testosterone levels and make you "more passive and easier to control." (https://twitter.com/abughazalehkat/status/1539771687184523269)

[Elizondo]

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Meanwhile oil companies on Biden's watch be like:

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lol what a farce. I can't believe idiot dems keep falling for this shit.

[Kaveh]

I can’t believe rednecks keep taking fentanyl purchased with disability checks but hate entitlements and free shit

Get a job

[Kaveh]

Maybe it would, but nobody has summoned that will in America and that isn't what is happening

It could be done if we stopped letting debates be hijacked by fringe people

/shrug

[Jibartik]

I can’t believe rednecks keep taking fentanyl purchased with disability checks but hate entitlements and free shit

Get a job

if you dont like em the borders are in every direction.

where the politicians you support sent all their jobs.

[Kaveh]

Hahaha yes dude I took your job

I also started the war in Ukraine. What else you got to excuse bad choices?

PS: I’m not leaving snowflake

[Jibartik]

I didnt say you took anyones job, I said the people you support sent them all to mexico and china.

And rednecks are what this country is so show some respect. They're hurting.

[Mblake1981]

It could be done if we stopped letting debates be hijacked by fringe people

/shrug

Fringe people like those who don't get the 4th of july, you are very authoritarian despite whatever politics you preach, I wouldn't trust you if you told me the ocean was wet.

Edit: With these matters, you have fine opinions concerning your native cuisine.

[Kaveh]

I would absolutely ban your unhealthy foods, cigarettes, and everything else that makes you a burden to the state in fiscal terms, so you have me there

As for the Fourth of July, that’s debatable buddy. I don’t agree that you have a right to claim small government and then ban abortion + harass people on these boards daily for being trans. You’re just as authoritarian, but you’re basing it on religion, which is outright against the 1st amendment. As with anything, it’s a matter of opinion, and I couldn’t care less if you trust me. Fact remains that for all the judgment, your community is net tax recipient. You aren’t as self reliant as you think you are, and for all the judgment you pass on others you adamantly refuse to adapt to a changing world, which would be fine if I didn’t pay for you disability and healthcare. But since I do, you have to hear my opinion and accept my vote, whether you like it or not. That’s what the Fourth of July means. An independent, constitutional republic where my voice and vote matter as much as yours buddy

[Jibartik]

Well since you're both authoritarians and I am not an authoritarian so I guess that means Im right. Both into the jail now.

[Mblake1981]

I got DDOS'd pretty quick.

Network back up

[Mblake1981]

Well since you're both authoritarians and I am not an authoritarian so I guess that means Im right. Both into the jail now.

guess i was right

[Jibartik]

I imagine blake will be on the rightous side.

Kevoh I imagine you will look like this while you watch the state rip bodies in half in the public square in the body half ripping machine:

https://i.imgur.com/owKNR84.png

fwiw

[Jibartik]

Im going to be the guy in side the body half ripping machine :( (Horza found me)

horza will be working for the state police investigators:

https://i.imgur.com/bybKIjC.png

[Mblake1981]

https://i.imgur.com/age2ySR.png

[Kaveh]

I would absolutely tax the shit out of unhealthy foods. Guess that makes me authoritarian

As for Blake being righteous, that’s for God to decide. The fact that you guys think that’s a judgment you’re entitled to make make you dangerous lunatics. You’re very close to being Muslim though you’d never admit it

[Reiwa]

I would absolutely ban your unhealthy foods, cigarettes, and everything else that makes you a burden to the state in fiscal terms, so you have me there

As for the Fourth of July, that’s debatable buddy. I don’t agree that you have a right to claim small government and then ban abortion + harass people on these boards daily for being trans. You’re just as authoritarian, but you’re basing it on religion, which is outright against the 1st amendment. As with anything, it’s a matter of opinion, and I couldn’t care less if you trust me. Fact remains that for all the judgment, your community is net tax recipient. You aren’t as self reliant as you think you are, and for all the judgment you pass on others you adamantly refuse to adapt to a changing world, which would be fine if I didn’t pay for you disability and healthcare. But since I do, you have to hear my opinion and accept my vote, whether you like it or not. That’s what the Fourth of July means. An independent, constitutional republic where my voice and vote matter as much as yours buddy

Dobbs doesn't ban abortion if it goes Alito's way. It allows states to ban abortion!

Mine won't yours will haha.

Rulings tomorrow and Friday.

[Kaveh]

Fringe people like those who don't get the 4th of july, you are very authoritarian despite whatever politics you preach, I wouldn't trust you if you told me the ocean was wet.

Edit: With these matters, you have fine opinions concerning your native cuisine.

Glad you liked the food. We have some good stuff. We also had amazing fruit back home. Grown right there and sold directly at farmer’s markets in Esfahan (though I more often had produce from our land)

[Mblake1981]

I would absolutely tax the shit out of unhealthy foods. Guess that makes me authoritarian

As for Blake being righteous, that’s for God to decide. The fact that you guys think that’s a judgment you’re entitled to make make you dangerous lunatics. You’re very close to being Muslim though you’d never admit it

Zoroasted?

my skin is too pale

[Mblake1981]

Patriam has never had blue veins.

[Kaveh]

Dobbs doesn't ban abortion if it goes Alito's way. It allows states to ban abortion!

Mine won't yours will haha.

Doesn’t affect me, but worth pointing out how one side views one thing as authoritarian but doesn’t view banning abortion in a state with 5 million democratic voters isn’t authoritarian

/shrug

[Jibartik]

I would absolutely tax the shit out of unhealthy foods. Guess that makes me authoritarian

As for Blake being righteous, that’s for God to decide. The fact that you guys think that’s a judgment you’re entitled to make make you dangerous lunatics. You’re very close to being Muslim though you’d never admit it

I think maybe the fact that you think thats what I think indicates that you are the lunatic my friend. Welcome to the club.

And yes taxes are authoritarian, especially controlling who buys what form which corporation with them.

I would allow tax write offs for healthy food purchases. But that would be cRaZY to incentivize people to an authoritarian.

[Kaveh]

Zoroasted?

my skin is too pale

Bosnians my friend

[Elizondo]

As for the Fourth of July, that’s debatable buddy. I don’t agree that you have a right to claim small government and then ban abortion + harass people on these boards daily for being trans.

Abortion isn't being banned, stupid

and lol at claiming trans are being harassed cuz folks aren't down with them swingin their taint in the faces of 5 year olds wearing female dark elf leather pants

[starkind]

No doubts about it I'm probably the most authoritarian person here. Definitely not ashamed of it either

[Mblake1981]

Bosnians my friend

Marietta wouldn't care.

[Kaveh]

I think maybe the fact that you think thats what I think indicates that you are the lunatic my friend. Welcome to the club.

And yes taxes are authoritarian, especially controlling who buys what form which corporation with them.

As long as Medicaid and Medicare are 52% of the US healthcare dole, id absolutely mandate people be healthier

I’ve also said end Medicare, Medicaid, and EMTALA. As long as I’m not part of your folly, I’m cool with it, but if I’m subsidizing you then I’m going to ask you at least eat a vegetable every now and then. Sue me

[Kaveh]

Abortion isn't being banned, stupid

and lol at claiming trans are being harassed cuz folks aren't down with them swingin their taint in the faces of 5 year olds wearing female dark elf leather pants

The said poster responds with a remark to starkind about being trans every post. Please learn to read. And yes, functionally abortion is being banned in half of the country. Call it what you like but that’s the reality

[Kaveh]

You guys are lucky Beto is the dumbest mother fucker alive. Abbott would lose this race and you’d lose your minds if he were running against someone who was competent and didn’t look like he was straight out of Hollywood

[Kaveh]

Marietta wouldn't care.

We come in all shades

And by that I mean Baptists (I was submerged in holy water after my mother’s passing last year. Am I welcome at your cookouts brother?)

[Mblake1981]

Abortion isn't being banned, stupid

and lol at claiming trans are being harassed cuz folks aren't down with them swingin their taint in the faces of 5 year olds wearing female dark elf leather pants

So what if some trans want to culturally enrich some dumb redneck white American kids, more the better.

[Mblake1981]

We come in all shades

And by that I mean Baptists (I was submerged in holy water after my mother’s passing last year. Am I welcome at your cookouts brother?)

I turned on a light switch this morning. Turned it back off a little while ago. Care to pat me on the back and let me date your sister?

[Horza]

It's gay as fuck, he's been down with the trannies, I wonder why you fucking neanderthals just keep losing elections.

[Kaveh]

Why do you think he gives two shits about some kids? hes already expressed his anti-American sentiments multiple times, repeatedly, that he wants the age raised. He doesn't give a damn about anything but taking advantage of hysterical female emotions. It's Gay AF and so is he despite him having kids, hes been down with the trannies since day 1, me and him have argued over that. Hes obviously twisted that way. Never heard him once argue with any of them. So what if some trans want to culturally enrich some dumb redneck white American kids, more the better.

I would never myself be trans or let it happen in my family, but that is different than telling people what or how to feel, or pretending it’s a major issue. As for me being anti-American, again, just because you grew up in a place and were told you are American, that doesn’t mean you represent america more than anyone else

Plenty of people associate america with innovation and intellect. It isn’t just being on fentanyl and taking a welfare check even as you disparage others. Some of us work and want others to have opportunity

[Reiwa]

Doesn’t affect me, but worth pointing out how one side views one thing as authoritarian but doesn’t view banning abortion in a state with 5 million democratic voters isn’t authoritarian

/shrug

I'm not super sure why I think the distinction from doing it federally is important but I do think it is.

[Mblake1981]

It's gay as fuck, he's been down with the trannies, I wonder why you fucking neanderthals just keep losing elections.

Shut up, Armus. Go back into your pit.

[Mblake1981]

I would never myself be trans or let it happen in my family

hahah, you not an ally afterall eh.. yeah that's right you got a sack between them legs don't you.

https://i.imgur.com/NmwwT3x.jpg

[Kaveh]

I turned on a light switch this morning. Turned it back off a little while ago. Care to pat me on the back and let me date your sister?

My sister’s ex was and remains one of the best people I’ve ever met. He is the reason I am Baptist. His resilience in overcoming opioids and taking responsibility, even after his son learned to hate him, is one of the most remarkable things I’ve ever seen. He would never call someone trans or Adobe. You definitely aren’t Christian like he is

I do love how closely you pay attention to my posts though. You really don’t like Adobeheart

[Elizondo]

The said poster responds with a remark to starkind about being trans every post. Please learn to read. And yes, functionally abortion is being banned in half of the country. Call it what you like but that’s the reality

Federalism ftw

Cope and seethe

Besides, I doubt Roe is going to go back to the states. Some groomer tried to kill Kavanaugh to send a message

[Reiwa]

Hopefully the culture has moved on and we can consolidate the poggers*

*This a typo of progress but jib might laugh maybe??

[Kaveh]

I'm not super sure why I think the distinction from doing it federally is important but I do think it is.

The civil rights act forbade states from doing something as did roe v wade

I consider them analogous because I fled an Islamic country I guess. Telling women what they can do while not enforcing fatherhood seems weird.

[Mblake1981]

My sister’s ex was and remains one of the best people I’ve ever met. He is the reason I am Baptist. His resilience in overcoming opioids and taking responsibility, even after his son learned to hate him, is one of the most remarkable things I’ve ever seen. He would never call someone trans or Adobe. You definitely aren’t Christian like he is

I do love how closely you pay attention to my posts though. You really don’t like Adobeheart

Christ it was a joke, wouldn't touch that with Chortles dick.

[Kaveh]

Federalism ftw

Cope and seethe

Besides, I doubt Roe is going to go back to the states. Some groomer tried to kill Kavanaugh to send a message

That would be bad precedent for them to cave after a threat like that. They shouldn’t. As for cope and seethe, I’m going to vote. But I won’t accept being called unamerican or groomer or Adobe. You rednecks pay less in taxes and won’t assume the moral high ground while that’s the case. Not gonna happen

[Mblake1981]

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[Reiwa]

That would be bad precedent for them to cave after a threat like that. They shouldn’t.

Common ground we can all hold votive on. 🙏

[Kaveh]

Well Blake I’m gonna hike tomorrow so I’m gonna hit the sack. You keep posting all night about all the people in America that you hate. God probably won’t forgive you, but I will

[Mblake1981]

Well Blake I’m gonna hike tomorrow so I’m gonna hit the sack. You keep posting all night about all the people in America that you hate. God probably won’t forgive you, but I will

I will try to not lose any sleep over it. You sleep tight, now, you hear? don't let them bed bugs bite.

[Elizondo]

That would be bad precedent for them to cave after a threat like that. They shouldn’t. As for cope and seethe, I’m going to vote. But I won’t accept being called unamerican or groomer or Adobe. You rednecks pay less in taxes and won’t assume the moral high ground while that’s the case. Not gonna happen

Morality is based upon how much you pay in taxes?

And you call yourself a Baptist?

[Mblake1981]

Morality is based upon how much you pay in taxes?

And you call yourself a Baptist?

If I was a member of the Buddhist temple he would claim to also be a member of the Buddhist temple and would be arguing about how Confuscious say taxes.

-edit: but he wouldn't know me as I would be like a mad druid, running around the forest. But not a fey-Druid like Horza.

[Jibartik]

The establishment doesn't care unless something supports their Hegelian dialect of problem, reaction, solution will they pretend to care about the problems we face.

[Elizondo]

The establishment doesn't care unless something supports their Hegelian dialect of problem, reaction, solution will they pretend to care about the problems we face.

All I know is that the Hegelian overlords have groomers marching in the streets screaming for the rights of dudes (wearing female dark elf pants with rainbow wigs) to bend over and shake their balls in front of 5 year old kids

They've been pied piper'd to absolute insanity. Not even 5 years ago everyone would have thought that shit is deranged and perverted. Now it's mainstream democrat policy and part of some absurd flag with colors you can't even find within the Microsoft Paint color slider.

They will literally support any depravity cuz an old feeble puppet mumbles his way through reading a teleprompter

[Jibartik]

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[Mblake1981]

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[Reiwa]

The establishment doesn't care unless something supports their Hegelian dialect of problem, reaction, solution will they pretend to care about the problems we face.

It's not thesis antithesis synthetis?

[starkind]

I Googled hegelian dialog and it basically translates too this is so complex u gotta just trust me bro

[Jibartik]

I Googled hegelian dialog and it basically translates too this is so complex u gotta just trust me bro

Now who does that remind you of. :cool:

https://i.imgur.com/Jx8VCHP.png

[starkind]

Teeeheee

Lol

Ya that irritated me. A little bit.

The basic answer is obviously a biological female. Ezpz. No need to elaborate. Next annoyingly rhetorical question plz.

[Vormotus]

I Googled hegelian dialog and it basically translates too this is so complex u gotta just trust me bro

If I may barge in here, the extremely old and outdated concept of Hegelian Dialectic and accompanying movements which eventually spawned certain political factions *and their opposites) is an extremely misconstrued concept that although worked as a basis for others is on the way out.


I can give you a super ULTRA BASIC tldr: In short, to skim everything and focus on the issue, it is a tool in the form of say .. a Hammer.

There is no need , unless you really want to , to understand the basic propositions of the hammer, why it was made, its many uses or the techniques and expertise that went into making this hammer.

You can literally see it as a that, a tool.

Now, imagine this tool being used to create houses, planks and nails pounded with it, slowly a house is made with this hammer.

Now fast forward into the future.

The Tool, as it was is now being used to say a house full of crack addicts, homeless and other undesirables by certain members of society , is the CULPRIT of those living within it , because, come on, the hammer was used to build that house where they all live.


Certain groups mention the hammer as a great tool , others decry it as the tool of those that want to tear houses, not only of ill repute but houses as well of "good people" ... or to build even more nasty houses, or good houses (depending on the person proposing the idea of the hammer)

The hammer is there, it exists ... but somehow is the culprit for literally anything that happens within these houses it built, not by itself but by the people wielding it, but blaming people is hard, better to label the hammer as the instigator.

Hegel created for short a way to understand a specific relationship between being, existence and the lack of being , nonexistence.

That was it.

Modern political theories used this tool to create a lot of things, but right now, even to the utter dejection and despise of many established power blocs, we are in he full throes of Post-Post Modernism, where this vaunted Hegelian Dialect is not only discarded but supplanted by power tools, artisans, pre fab housing, caves in hills and even people just deciding to eschew houses altogether as houses are no longer relevant for a future that is uncertain, does not promise enough resources for all or a general lack of interest in it.

THERE lies the conflict by certain interest groups in trying to keep this tool "alive" and relevant, when it is already phased out or in the process of being phased out, be it by sheer social shift, lack of resources or the vaunted collapse of civilization as we know it or the paradigm shift we are slowly seeing in the rise of new power blocs supplanting old ones but somehow wanting all the perks of the old ones, thus further destabilizing the already frail system.


It is an interesting topic to be honest.

Not an expert either, but this is my extremely amateur take on it.

In short, Hegelian Dialects and the systems that use it are not the problem, but the dregs of a system that can no longer exist and will be replaced , sadly by worse versions but hopefully by better ones.

There is a huge thinker, called Derrida that on Hegel mentioned this: (Hegels DIalectics) 'could well' have been the absolutely last philosophy'

Now you all made me want to read a bit more about this ...:D

As I read this in preview I have to add, this is just a take on the matter, not the whole.

Sorry if I have not managed to pass the point through, english is my second language.


Big love to everyone nonetheless! :o

[Vormotus]

Hope this helps if you still curious, it is quite succint :D

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Edit: This is a very simple and not exactly 100% true depiction but it is a basic.

This is not a philosophy forum, but it is always good to have somewhere to start from.

Hugs to everybody!

[starkind]

So recursive ya-butts

I actually use dialectics all the time and agree with hegel butt it's usesless for governance because there will always be those ppl that ya-butt indefinately

at some point u just got to draw a hard line in the sand and say 'this is what is functional'

a woman is functionally a female

end of story

--- sure there are a millinon billion ppl on this planet that will ya-butt butt when it comes to actual governance it's not an effective (another dialectical thing) it's not an effective means of governing around what a woman is or may be.

I would say that the majority here matters. And that sorry if u think u are a woman buttyabutt not then u are on ur own always have been always will be just like every other poor sod on this planet that isn't a CEO or megarich oligarch or military elite

--- my dialectic is the state won't fix any problems including gender lawl which really isn't THAT big of a deal except ppl will always be dumb about it and language is made up so best is to work hard and not rely on the state to tell u how to dress and talk and what surgeries u do -- so the ultimate dialectic would be to delete insurance entirely, especially medical insurance so u could have more monies for pp and vaginaplasties

---- again ----

it's complicated just trust me bro

me: no I won't trust u the vast number of u can't even run electrical wiring or plumbing or clean the fucking pubes out of the shower stall or go without a shower for more than 5 minutes without having a mental breakdown

i guess the truth is that the truth is not an effective means of governing idiots and also water is mostly wet unless u are a steam engineer or michellen star cheff than it's also hot steamy and ouchy and most ppl don't think about that when cooking or driving their cars around

[Reiwa]

Oh, neat. You can pick your method of execution?

e: Hey, gun right ruling by Thomas!

e2: well that was fun come back tomorrow

[robayon]

Oh, neat. You can pick your method of execution?

e: Hey, gun right ruling by Thomas!

e2: well that was fun come back tomorrowHell yeah fixing the stuff that ain't broken and ignoring all the stuff that is

[Jibartik]

Hell yeah fixing the stuff that ain't broken and ignoring all the stuff that is

The establishment doesn't care unless something supports their Hegelian dialect of problem, reaction, solution will they pretend to care about the problems we face.

[Reiwa]

Hell yeah fixing the stuff that ain't broken and ignoring all the stuff that is

What would u choose? The condemned wanted a firing squad instead of drugs.

[robayon]

What would u choose? The condemned wanted a firing squad instead of drugs.edit: drugs

[MrSparkle001]

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/supreme-court-new-york-gun-law-second-amendment/

You no longer need to prove proper cause to obtain a carry permit.

The New York permitting law at the crux of the dispute dates back to 1913 and requires residents seeking a license to carry a gun outside the home to demonstrate a "proper cause" to obtain one, which state courts have said is a "special need for self-protection."

Can you guess how many people qualified for this special need for self-protection?

Now I don't think this means we will soon see cities full of people carrying pistols everywhere they go but WOW.

What I instead think will happen is the opponents of the second amendment will do everything they can to pack the court so the outcomes are in their favor.

And this:

Writing in dissent for the liberal wing of the court, Justice Stephen Breyer noted the rise in gun violence in the U.S. and ubiquity of firearms, and warned that states working to pass more stringent firearms laws will be "severely" burdened by the court's decision.

"In my view, when courts interpret the Second Amendment, it is constitutionally proper, indeed often necessary, for them to consider the serious dangers and consequences of gun violence that lead states to regulate firearms," Breyer wrote. "The Second Circuit has done so and has held that New York's law does not violate the Second Amendment. I would affirm that holding."

I think is incorrect. You cannot consider the consequences when interpreting the constitution. What matters, constitutionally, is whether a law conforms to the constitution or infringe on the rights guaranteed within. That's all that matters. Does New York's law infringe on the second amendment's right to bear arms? It certainly sounds like it does. Whether or not it's wise in this age of gun violence, the second amendment says the right to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed. It's right there plain as day, right?

Yes I do think it's foolish to hold so sacred a document that was written in the age of muskets, but that's not what the Supreme Court is for. Gun opponents will need to repeal the second amendment to win this, and if that happens it means the secession of most of the south + Texas, Oklahoma etc. and the end of the United States. On the flipside, allowing people to carry guns even easier in this age of this declining country and society may lead to mass gun violence on an unprecedented scale.

Interesting times we live in. It's not just about the memes anymore.

[Gravydoo II]

Dont get shot in the face.

[Mblake1981]

Yes I do think it's foolish to hold so sacred a document that was written in the age of muskets, but that's not what the Supreme Court is for. Gun opponents will need to repeal the second amendment to win this, and if that happens it means the secession of most of the south + Texas, Oklahoma etc. and the end of the United States. On the flipside, allowing people to carry guns even easier in this age of this declining country and society may lead to mass gun violence on an unprecedented scale.

Interesting times we live in. It's not just about the memes anymore.

Dont get shot in the face.

A guest was chatting with me last night about this topic, she felt that allowing people to have their constitutional rights would be foolish, I explained that I thought such opinions were foolish, but then she pointed out the fact I was raised with guns and that I am not a desperate person trying to run the streets.

I couldn't help but just stare at her and said nothing in response. Those people are persecuted, and society has said its just. Blue Cities can't have their 2nd amendment rights because they are treated like children.

[Horza]

A guest was chatting with me last night about this topic, she felt that allowing people to have their constitutional rights would be foolish, I explained that I thought such opinions were foolish, but then she pointed out the fact I was raised with guns and that I am not a desperate person trying to run the streets.

I couldn't help but just stare at her and said nothing in response. Those people are persecuted, and society has said its just. Blue Cities can't have their 2nd amendment rights because they are treated like children.

SCOTUS could care less about the concept of a right to privacy, the only constitutional right they seek to expand is the Second Amendment because culture war bullshit is the only thing that plays with the paste eating retards that still vote Republican.

[Mblake1981]

SCOTUS could care less about the concept of a right to privacy, the only constitutional right they seek to expand is the Second Amendment because culture war bullshit is the only thing that plays with the paste eating retards that still vote Republican.

Explain how you think a right is being expanded when its suppressed in some areas, what for liberals have judged to be solid reasoning with their societal-kids?

[Horza]

Explain how you think a right is being expanded when its suppressed in some areas, what for liberals have judged to be solid reasoning with their societal-kids?

They're about to overturn Roe to appease frothing evangelicals, unfortunately they won't be happy until it's the apocalypse and we're all dead.

[Mblake1981]

They're about to overturn Roe to appease frothing evangelicals, unfortunately they won't be happy until it's the apocalypse and we're all dead.

Explain how you think a right is being expanded when its suppressed in some areas, what for liberals have judged to be solid reasoning with their societal-kids?

[Horza]

In one of the first looks at footage from a documentary filmmaker embedded with the Trump family during the 2020 election cycle, the former president calls Jan. 6 rioters “smart” people, acting in justified anger over a stolen election. (https://twitter.com/mkraju/status/1540020170390851584)

[robayon]

Whats a societal-kid

[Mblake1981]

Whats a societal-kid

Good question, other smarter and more refined members of society have judge the rest of you, in a specific area, can't have your full constitution and it must be governed for them, for their own good and the well-being of society at large, they have been judged unable to do this so they are restricted. Grounded, if you will.

The societal-parents taking care of their errant societal-kids.

[Mblake1981]

In one of the first looks at footage from a documentary filmmaker embedded with the Trump family during the 2020 election cycle, the former president calls Jan. 6 rioters “smart” people, acting in justified anger over a stolen election. (https://twitter.com/mkraju/status/1540020170390851584)

You can't answer a question. Just sloshing around in your oily cesspool, Armus. How about you refrain from asking me any further questions until you can muster enough competence to backup your opinions.

[azeth]

You can't answer a question. Just sloshing around in your oily cesspool, Armus. How about you refrain from asking me any further questions until you can muster enough competence to backup your opinions.

Did he not backup his opinion by providing the link to his source? You're calling him out in deflecting while deflecting

[Mblake1981]

Did he not backup his opinion by providing the link to his source? You're calling him out in deflecting while deflecting

No, or if it was then he did a piss-poor job of explaining it by posting a lazy link with nothing of his own to back it up. Go back and read it, we were talking about expanding second amendment rights (he was), I countered that, he changed the subject with no context (piss and shit), I challenged him in return, he posted another lazy link with no context for why, changed the subject again in my view.

he was challenged, I wasn't. He sucks.

[Mblake1981]

^

"Expanding second amendment rights are what the SCOTUS cares about"

[SNL skit]

[Horza]

How about you refrain from asking me any further questions until you can muster enough competence to backup your opinions.

How about you just shut the fuck up if you're going to throw a hissy fit anytime somebody challenges your retarded views?

[Mblake1981]

How about you just shut the fuck up if you're going to throw a hissy fit anytime somebody challenges your retarded views?

Blow it out your ass.

[walfreyydo]

Gas prices are high because of three reasons:
1) war in Ukraine
2) price gouging
3) Saudi Arabia wont pump more oil. Why?

Trump admin (Jared) went easy on MBS chopping up Khashoggi, in return, Jared gets a 3 billion (with a B) dollar loan from Saudi Arabia. Meanwhile, in 2020 Biden is out there talking s**t about MBS and human rights, etc - pisses off MBS.

Fast forward to Russia invading Ukraine. Jared calls up his pal MBS and says "hey, its an election year and every idiot in America is blaming Biden for gas prices (because they are Americans and they dont understand global economics and supply/demand fundamentals)... lets not pump anymore oil because we dont want Biden and dems re-elected".

The rest is history. Im sure there is also price gouging going on, but clearly alot of this is due to MBS not liking Biden and wanting to help out his buddy Jared and co.

Surprised no one has made that connection yet.

[Reiwa]

Gas prices are high because of three reasons:
1) war in Ukraine
2) price gouging
3) Saudi Arabia wont pump more oil. Why?

Trump admin (Jared) went easy on MBS chopping up Khashoggi, in return, Jared gets a 3 billion (with a B) dollar loan from Saudi Arabia. Meanwhile, in 2020 Biden is out there talking s**t about MBS and human rights, etc - pisses off MBS.

Fast forward to Russia invading Ukraine. Jared calls up his pal MBS and says "hey, its an election year and every idiot in America is blaming Biden for gas prices (because they are Americans and they dont understand global economics and supply/demand fundamentals)... lets not pump anymore oil because we dont want Biden and dems re-elected".

The rest is history. Im sure there is also price gouging going on, but clearly alot of this is due to MBS not liking Biden and wanting to help out his buddy Jared and co.

Surprised no one has made that connection yet.

Also because Tromp sanctioned Nordstream-2.

[robayon]

Good question, other smarter and more refined members of society have judge the rest of you, in a specific area, can't have your full constitution and it must be governed for them, for their own good and the well-being of society at large, they have been judged unable to do this so they are restricted. Grounded, if you will.

The societal-parents taking care of their errant societal-kids.Let us take this and apply it to women's right to obtain an abortion

[Horza]

Also because Tromp sanctioned Nordstream-2.

Republicans wouldn't be stupid enough to blame Biden for the consequences of his predecessor's actions, right? It's not like a million people died because some obese pedophile said the pandemic would just miraculously disappear.

[Mblake1981]

Let us take this and apply it to women's right to obtain an abortion

Sure, why not for a thought exercise. Probably why its allowed to begin with and was passed via lies that the public came back later and shared were lies but we kept the laws. Let those people slaughter their kids so you wont have to.

Changing the subject slightly, but this is in vein with Gov and Mafia robbing the public of their firearms. Simple governance.

[Mblake1981]

Republicans wouldn't be stupid enough to blame Biden for the consequences of his predecessor's actions, right? It's not like a million people died because some obese pedophile said the pandemic would just miraculously disappear.

Tax them twice and find out.

[Horza]

Let us take this and apply it to women's right to obtain an abortion

*Bible thumping intensifies*

[Mblake1981]

*Bible thumping intensifies*

*hair dye intensifies*

[azeth]

*hair dye intensifies*

I'll take hair dyed he-shes over anyone who believes their religion or personal moral code ought to dictate America's ethical compass

[robayon]

*Bible thumping intensifies*Don't do them favors, they don't care about that book

[Mblake1981]

I'll take hair dyed he-shes over anyone who believes their religion or personal moral code ought to dictate America's ethical compass

Isn't that a personal moral code minus the religion, mr. sunshine

[Botten]

Gun-rights supporters, feel banning or restricting public carry anywhere violates the right to self-defense recognized in the case Heller. They argue that the need for protection can arise in 'any' place.

Supreme Court Justice Amy Coney lining up for the Bruen case says, “If you concede, as I think the historical record requires you to, that states did outlaw guns in sensitive places, can’t we just say Times Square is a sensitive place?” -- This was during the oral argument.

Are the conservative majority hinting at their next big change? Will 'sensitive' places where guns are currently not allowed soon open to carry? Note that sensitive areas will conveniently never mean in a court house because it is classified as providing 'adequate security.'

What constitutes as sensitive areas?

Yes Voting pole locations count as sensitive locations. Supreme court voting rights changed in 2013 "gutted – discriminatory voting policies preventing harm to voters."

Good thing the US according to the Supreme Court no longer practices discriminatory voting methods.

'....Oh say like an armed militia intimidating voters with their guns at poling stations stating they need them for their 'adequate security' that isn't being provided at the pole station.

What else constitutes as 'sensitive' areas, you say?

Namely Churches and pretty much any public place that doesn't have established 'adequate security.'

Town halls in Michigan are probably wondering when the militia will be legally visiting with their long guns again *rolleyes* Because.... that went over so well the last time.

It is amazing how stupid republicans who think 'this way' don't understand that Police will now be more jumpier than ever. Not knowing if the person has a gun.

Nothing like visiting a fire fight NOT knowing who is the criminal in the mass of shooting.

[Mblake1981]

It is amazing how stupid republicans who think 'this way' don't understand that Police will now be more jumpier than ever. Not knowing if the person has a gun.

Nothing like visiting a fire fight NOT knowing who is the criminal in the mass of shooting.

Blue cities need more governance, whats the problem?

[Jibartik]

You dont have to argue that you need protection in "any" place anymore. That is a fact now.

[Mblake1981]

You dont have to argue that you need protection in "any" place anymore. That is a fact now.

because its a false reason to begin with.

-Country boy had a shotgun put in his hands at age 9

vs.

-City folks who know gangs have guns

Errybody fears something or was taught to fear it due to their circumstances.

[Jibartik]

Republicans wouldn't be stupid enough to blame Biden for the consequences of his predecessor's actions, right? It's not like a million people died because some obese pedophile said the pandemic would just miraculously disappear.

why did biden use his predecessors pandemic plan for the next 2 years then?

[Reiwa]

why did biden use his predecessors pandemic plan for the next 2 years then?

cuz tromp (prior to covid) tore up obama pandemic plan and defunded it. so biden didn't have the resources to do anything more than the scraps tromp left him to work with.

[Jibartik]

Voting, how to make you feel like you've done something after doing nothing.

[Mblake1981]

cuz tromp (prior to covid) tore up obama pandemic plan and defunded it. so biden didn't have the resources to do anything more than the scraps tromp left him to work with.

You can breath a sigh of relief in 24 when T-Money loses to the establishment man, then you can get back to this little game of diffused responsibilities. The only difference was Trump wasn't the chosen man but he was fully vetted by the system and was friends with so many, including many Dems and Epstein, the guy Horza reminds us about.

You can keep it behind closed doors where it belongs, make the handshakes and have the mass-media run stories about why they hate our freedoms to the public.

[Jibartik]

haerd tromp was gettng peed on by a cyber sex ninja in a russian space hotel while he tore it up.

[Horza]

You can breath a sigh of relief in 24 when T-Money loses to the establishment man, then you can get back to this little game of diffused responsibilities. The only difference was Trump wasn't the chosen man but he was fully vetted by the system and was friends with so many, including many Dems and Epstein, the guy Horza reminds us about.

I'm absolutely in agreement here, Trump and his pal Epstein will certainly be rotting in hell together soon enough.

[Jibartik]

I know dude I saw it too, the gypsoids are erasing our memroies because they are destablizing the multiverse. This is all factual, and the only way to stop it is to elect more democrats.

All of it is russian so you can take my word for it too.

[Mblake1981]

I'm absolutely in agreement here, Trump and his pal Epstein will certainly be rotting in hell together soon enough.

Why did they hate our freedoms so much?

[full panel of diverse guests weigh in]

[Reiwa]

You can breath a sigh of relief in 24 when T-Money loses to the establishment man, then you can get back to this little game of diffused responsibilities. The only difference was Trump wasn't the chosen man but he was fully vetted by the system and was friends with so many, including many Dems and Epstein, the guy Horza reminds us about.

You can keep it behind closed doors where it belongs, make the handshakes and have the mass-media run stories about why they hate our freedoms to the public.

tromp also enjoyed the benefit of more stringent public health mandates, i.e. masking, crowd size limits, income replacement programs, medical protocols - and of course, lack of public fatigue with them.

[Jibartik]

I'm absolutely in agreement here, Trump and his pal Epstein will certainly be rotting in hell together soon enough.

https://i.imgur.com/sfou7QK.png

[Mblake1981]

tromp also enjoyed the benefit of more stringent public health mandates, i.e. masking, crowd size limits, income replacement programs, medical protocols - and of course, lack of public fatigue.

Who cares about that, what I want to know, the pressing question of the month is why did they hate our freedoms so much?

Let's talk about this for a long time but never get anywhere.

[Mblake1981]

"Why.. why do they hate our freedoms" the pundit asks the regular folks at home who are having a meal after a days work. "Why do they hate your freedoms?"

[Reiwa]

Who cares about that, what I want to know, the pressing question of the month is why did they hate our freedoms so much?

Let's talk about this for a long time but never get anywhere.

i don't feel like answering that so here's a meme

https://i.imgur.com/2WknSt0.jpg

[Jibartik]

idk but considering not a single issue that mattered 10 years ago, is in the realm of being changed in the next 20 Id say the whole "sides" plan really worked out for the elites.

[Horza]

Who cares about that, what I want to know, the pressing question of the month is why did they hate our freedoms so much?

Let's talk about this for a long time but never get anywhere.

Yeah, let's allow conservative weirdos to control the narrative because they threaten to have another hissy fit if people don't do what they want.

[Mblake1981]

idk but considering not a single issue that mattered 10 years ago, is in the realm of being changed in the next 20 Id say the whole "sides" plan really worked out for the elites.

[the pundit turns slowly to the camera]
[removes his glasses in an honest display of frustration]

"Why were their freedoms so hated?"

[the panel offers their insights]

[Jibartik]

[the pundit turns slowly to the camera]
[removes his glasses in an honest display of frustration]

"Why were their freedoms so hated?"

[the panel offers their insights]

https://i.imgur.com/C9KUlaX.gif

[Mblake1981]

Yeah, let's allow conservative weirdos to control the narrative because they threaten to have another hissy fit if people don't do what they want.

Was that talked about in one of the conservative podcasts you listen to?

[azeth]

Is hunter Biden shit just a fun troll type thing or does the right actually feel like his goings-on are impactful to Bidens presidency? You know he's not in the cabinet or consulted with like Trump's nepotismic tendency was with his kids. Legitimately don't understand these statements, they're so irrational that they undermine every valid or nearly valid point conservatives make

[Mblake1981]

Is hunter Biden shit just a fun troll type thing or does the right actually feel like his goings-on are impactful to Bidens presidency? You know he's not in the cabinet or consulted with like Trump's nepotismic tendency was with his kids. Legitimately don't understand these statements, they're so irrational that they undermine every valid or nearly valid point conservatives make

Tonight on the Internet we ask local trolls why they hate freedoms so much?

[Jibartik]

Yeah, let's allow conservative weirdos to control the narrative because they threaten to have another hissy fit if people don't do what they want.

https://i.imgur.com/427Scb8.png

https://i.imgur.com/lWLXVhj.png

https://i.imgur.com/nlUmTJ7.png

[azeth]

Tonight on the Internet we ask local trolls why they hate freedoms so much?

I truly don't understand this response on any realistic, sarcastic, humorous or tongue in cheek level. Try again in English

[Mblake1981]

Joe Rogan promised us thousands of bodies.

.. in a Quake match maybe

[Jibartik]

This is why libs/left dont work, the ego is still there. It's best to not pretend it isnt.

That's why the left always fails. It tries to pretend reality is not real if you dont want it to be.

Time and time again, its the fall of the open minded. The free and empathetic.

The ego. Ironic that that's what DMT tries to abolish. Why have we built pyramids with it and empires, but forgotten it?

Because Satan is trying to make us forget, so he can enslave us in the metaverse, WAKE UP SHEEPLE!

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[Horza]

I truly don't understand this response on any realistic, sarcastic, humorous or tongue in cheek level. Try again in English

They're not sending their best (see the schizo DMT post above).

[Jibartik]

Guy reads that and takes it seriously, says he's the smartest one in the room lol

"Im nOt SmARt EnOuGH tO UnDerStanD A JoKe EvrYone ListEn To Me!"

Classic Bushers. This is why you're afraid of art projects and Dr. Suess books.

[Mblake1981]

I truly don't understand this response on any realistic, sarcastic, humorous or tongue in cheek level. Try again in English

You do understand those are trolls right? one side trolling the other..Here is some English for you pussy cat, ask yourself if you would give a single-shit about any of those memes if social media wasn't such a large part of everyday life for millions now.Do I have to remind you that Mark Zuckerberg and Steve Jobs built this shit off the old internet we nerds inhabited? You know, we play a game from that era right here and now but we never had memes back in the day like that, nor did we give a shit about any of it like this.

There is my explanation, Calico, but now I am looking at you with suspicion because you asked.

[azeth]

You do understand those are trolls right? one side trolling the other..

Here is some English for you pussy cat, ask yourself if you would give a single-shit about any of those memes if social media wasn't such a large part of everyday life for millions now.

Do I have to remind you that Mark Zuckerberg and Steve Jobs built this shit off the old internet we nerds inhabited? You know, we play a game from that era right here and now but we never had memes back in the day like that, nor did we give a shit about any of it like this.

There is my explanation, Calico, but now I am looking at you with suspicion because you asked.

Everything you said was super cool and all, but what I was referring to was comments that you and others who were not in any way being sarcastic or trying to be funny have made inferring that Hunter biden's misdeeds have anything to do with the current presidency or trajectory of the country. This was an extremely literate attempt to derail or straw man the conversation though, I give you +5 retard pts

[Jibartik]

Oh look another democrat who thinks they get to say something isnt sarcasm. What a fricken surprise!

[Jibartik]

I am shouting with a megaphone, that you dont get it.

The reason is because you are retarted and dumb.

Like all the bushers.

[Mblake1981]

but what I was referring to was comments that you and others who were not in any way being sarcastic or trying to be funny have made inferring that Hunter biden's misdeeds have anything to do with the current presidency...

Please quote my Hunter posts, so I know what you are referring to, thanks.

[azeth]

Please quote my Hunter posts, so I know what you are referring to, thanks.

I'm not going to labor to do that, maybe it wasn't you. The thing about being a thought-capable person is actually identifying that you may have misread something. Based on your response clearly it wasn't you that mentioned that and I read it too quickly.

[Mblake1981]

I'm not going to labor to do that, maybe it wasn't you.

Edit: I insulted you originally for your laziness, and now its obvious.

[Jibartik]

You just made a judgment about him, said that he said something non sarcastically, claimed it was about something you think is appalling.

Then reply with, idk maybe it wasnt you??

I love the tribulation lmao

[azeth]

Fuck you then, bitch.

I like to think that your hands were jittery when you typed that super fast after my response. Tell it true

[Horza]

Fuck you then, bitch.

Someone's a little cranky today. Maybe you should go take your nap, obligatory Trump lost stupid.

[Mblake1981]

I like to think that your hands were jittery when you typed that super fast after my response. Tell it true

look above, yep I read the first couple words and was like "That son of a bitch"

Edit: I insulted you originally for your laziness, and now its obvious.

[Jibartik]

This is how we should do court.

"court he did and said all this"

"no i didnt prove it!"

"too late execute him."

"maybe it wasnt him idk but you all know that he died for a good point right?"

[azeth]

Can you believe that little boy just edited his response. Why is the right so full of pussies. That's why you need guns because you're a bunch of fucking pussies

[Mblake1981]

Someone's a little cranky today. Maybe you should go take your nap, obligatory Trump lost stupid.

Go blow a cock.

[Mblake1981]

Can you believe that little boy just edited his response. Why is the right so full of pussies. That's why you need guns because you're a bunch of fucking pussies

wee wee wee

make up for your lack

[azeth]

Can we start referring to him as my son going forward

[Horza]

Go blow a cock.

Like those underage girls did to Trump on Epstein's plane?

[Jibartik]

ZRDpC_QYG5k

[azeth]

Mblake as my new son I'm going to encourage your gender expression any way you feel most comfortable

[Mblake1981]

Can we start referring to him as my son going forward

You can't qualify because you are too stupid.

[Mblake1981]

Mblake as my new son I'm going to encourage your gender expression any way you feel most comfortable

Giant dumbass makes up for his lack of reading, tries to shame another. Go back to hell.

[azeth]

Mblake as my new son I'm going to encourage your gender expression any way you feel most comfortable

Giant dumbass makes up for his lack of reading, tries to shame another. Go back to hell.

I think you need a timeout. But you know what I'll support you no matter what

[azeth]

I'm going to take your tiny little ass to a fucking museum, I'm going to buy you some fucking ice cream and we're going to talk about how black lives matter. Is that something that makes you happy

[Mblake1981]

I think you need a timeout. But you know what I'll support you no matter what

Again, you sorry asshole, go to hell for your own mistakes.

[Jibartik]

To be clear: not only has azeth admitted that the person he is angry at was a figment of his imagination, he just dove right back into fighting it.

[azeth]

To be clear and nobody should be ashamed about clarifying that they misunderstood something, or misunderstood who said something. Sometimes we read too fast, sometimes we choose to read what we want to read. I think that's a life lesson for all of you, including my child mb

[Mblake1981]

To be clear and nobody should be ashamed about clarifying that they misunderstood something, or misunderstood who said something. Sometimes we read too fast, sometimes we choose to read what we want to read. I think that's a life lesson for all of you, including my child mb

Very nice explaining yourself like a slave, enjoy the cave you troglodyte.

[azeth]

Very nice explaining yourself like a slave, enjoy the cave you troglodyte.

I'm going to send you to a nice college in Massachusetts.

[Horza]

To be clear: not only has azeth admitted that the person he is angry at was a figment of his imagination, he just dove right back into fighting it.

azeth is right though, none of you stupid motherfuckers will stop memeing about Hunter long enough to acknowledge Jared taking a three billion dollar bribe from Prince Bonesaw.

[Jibartik]

To be clear and nobody should be ashamed about clarifying that they misunderstood something, or misunderstood who said something. Sometimes we read too fast, sometimes we choose to read what we want to read. I think that's a life lesson for all of you, including my child mb

There's a difference between admitting you were mischaracterizing someone than misunderstanding them.

[Jibartik]

azeth is right though, none of you stupid motherfuckers will stop memeing about Hunter long enough to acknowledge Jared taking a three billion dollar bribe from Prince Bonesaw.

I personaly think that you are hypocrytical to imply that trump had sex with kids with less evidence.

but you dont care about that because you "mother fucker" wont stop memeing about trump and us and making up everything you say

now admit that you just want me to taste your bayonette.

[Jibartik]

I didnt mean to make you guys stop fighting. By all means plz continue.

ZRDpC_QYG5k

[Mblake1981]

https://i.imgur.com/VbZFpIw.gif

[Elizondo]

Gas prices are high because of three reasons:
1) war in Ukraine
2) price gouging
3) Saudi Arabia wont pump more oil. Why?

Trump admin (Jared) went easy on MBS chopping up Khashoggi, in return, Jared gets a 3 billion (with a B) dollar loan from Saudi Arabia. Meanwhile, in 2020 Biden is out there talking s**t about MBS and human rights, etc - pisses off MBS.

Fast forward to Russia invading Ukraine. Jared calls up his pal MBS and says "hey, its an election year and every idiot in America is blaming Biden for gas prices (because they are Americans and they dont understand global economics and supply/demand fundamentals)... lets not pump anymore oil because we dont want Biden and dems re-elected".

The rest is history. Im sure there is also price gouging going on, but clearly alot of this is due to MBS not liking Biden and wanting to help out his buddy Jared and co.

Surprised no one has made that connection yet.

Gas prices are high because Biden is a shitty president and his policies are so bad they have caused the price of gas to double literally within 2 years

Hope that helps

[Elizondo]

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[Kaveh]

Giant dumbass makes up for his lack of reading, tries to shame another. Go back to hell.

Mblake mad again

Shocker. Regale us with the tales of all those you hate again. There’s Adobe of course. Who else?

[Kaveh]

I personaly think that you are hypocrytical to imply that trump had sex with kids with less evidence.

but you dont care about that because you "mother fucker" wont stop memeing about trump and us and making up everything you say

now admit that you just want me to taste your bayonette.

Nah no bayonettes man

Everyone just needs to chill and not pop an aneurysm like Mblake after his hungryman dinner

[MrSparkle001]

Let us take this and apply it to women's right to obtain an abortion

There's nothing in the constitution giving a right to obtain an abortion. It's based on a flimsy right to privacy argument.

Writing for the majority opinion in Roe v. Wade, Justice Harry Blackmun said that the court held a woman’s right to an abortion was implicit in the right to privacy protected under the 14th Amendment. However, while the Supreme Court ruled in favor of a woman's right to choose, it also acknowledged the state's interest in protecting the "potential of human life."

To balance the competing interests, the court established a "trimester" framework for the legality of abortions:

First Trimester (up to 12 weeks): Gives a woman an absolute right to an abortion in the first three months of pregnancy.
Second Trimester (up to 28 weeks: Allows the government to regulate abortion in order to protect the mother’s health, but cannot ban it.
Third Trimester (up to 40 weeks): Because the fetus is considered "viable" — can survive on its own outside the womb (about 24 weeks of pregnancy) — states can prohibit abortion except in cases when the mother's life is at risk.

Many states sought to circumvent Roe by imposing procedural hurdles upon women seeking abortions and the Supreme Court was repeatedly tasked with deciding whether these restrictions violated a woman’s right to privacy.

It's a real stretch to call abortion a constitutional right because of the fourteenth amendment and a right to privacy.

[Horza]

Gas prices are high because Biden is a shitty president and his policies are so bad they have caused the price of gas to double literally within 2 years

Hope that helps

Crazy how the entire planet's gas prices are singlehandedly controlled by a guy who defeated your obese messianic figure (and not OPEC).

[Elizondo]

Crazy how the entire planet's gas prices are singlehandedly controlled by a guy who defeated your obese messianic figure (and not OPEC).

Hilarious libtards talking about OPEC again as Biden grovels to them on his knees for more oil. Sad Horza simping for a total failure of a prez

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[Horza]

Hilarious libtards talking about OPEC again

Almost like they control most oil production and have a hateboner for anyone who won't sweep Khashoggi under the rug like Jared and company.

[Elizondo]

Almost like they control most oil production and have a hateboner for anyone who won't sweep Khashoggi under the rug like Jared and company.

lol k

You totally lost all dignity simping for a senile old kid sniffer. Yea bro, it's all a conspiracy again Biden or something. Holy crap you're an idiot.

[Mblake1981]

Nah no bayonettes man

Everyone just needs to chill and not pop an aneurysm like Mblake after his hungryman dinner

MhDa9RW0UQE

[Horza]

lol k

You totally lost all dignity simping for a senile old kid sniffer. Yea bro, it's all a conspiracy again Biden or something. Holy crap you're an idiot.

I voted for Bernie in the primary, but I'm not about to support a guy taking billion-dollar bribes from Prince Bonesaw out of spite.

[Elizondo]

I voted for Bernie in the primary

lol

[Horza]

Only thing lol here is you talking about dignity while continuing to support the Saudi's little bitch.

[Mblake1981]

https://i.imgur.com/sb8QYys.gif

[Elizondo]

Only thing lol here is you talking about dignity while continuing to support the Saudi's little bitch.

Sorry your rich commie messiah got beat so badly in the primaries TWICE

[Reiwa]

azeth is right though, none of you stupid motherfuckers will stop memeing about Hunter long enough to acknowledge Jared taking a three billion dollar bribe from Prince Bonesaw.

What did we sell them that you're construing as a bribe?

[Reiwa]

There's nothing in the constitution giving a right to obtain an abortion. It's based on a flimsy right to privacy argument.



It's a real stretch to call abortion a constitutional right because of the fourteenth amendment and a right to privacy.

The antecedent is Griswold v Connecticut and there are many sibling rulings such as Lawrence, Obergefell, and Heller.

Turns out the penumbra bats for both teams.

[Jibartik]

I voted for Bernie in the primary, but I'm not about to support a guy taking billion-dollar bribes from Prince Bonesaw out of spite.

Analysis of Hunter Biden's hard drive shows he, his firm took in about $11 million from 2013 to 2018, spent it fast (https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/national-security/analysis-hunter-bidens-hard-drive-shows-firm-took-11-million-2013-2018-rcna29462)

[Horza]

What did we sell them that you're construing as a bribe?

They invested billions in Jared's private equity firm as payback for squashing Khashoggi heat.

[Jibartik]

lol

[Domo]

Jordan Klepper Shows Trump Supporters January 6th Hearing Clips (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hNIJH5gufaQ)

[Mblake1981]

Stomach full of Beef Stew

edit: Daily Show was rocking in the 90's for his hard hitting satire, it came on before South Park. Both of them should have ended in 2000 along with The Simpsons. I hear they are all popular at Frankfurt School.

[MrSparkle001]

The antecedent is Griswold v Connecticut and there are many sibling rulings such as Lawrence, Obergefell, and Heller.

Turns out the penumbra bats for both teams.

They couldn't even agree on which amendments contained that right to privacy

In a 7-2 decision authored by Justice Douglas, the Court ruled that the Constitution did in fact protect the right of marital privacy against state restrictions on contraception. While the Court explained that the Constitution does not explicitly protect a general right to privacy, the various guarantees within the Bill of Rights create penumbras, or zones, that establish a right to privacy. Together, the First, Third, Fourth, and Ninth Amendments create the right to privacy in marital relations. The Connecticut statute conflicted with the exercise of this right and was therefore held null and void.

Justice Goldberg, joined by Justices Warren and Brennan, concurred. Rather than finding that the right to privacy was contained in imaginary penumbras, Goldberg located it in the Ninth and Fourteenth Amendments.

and this I agree with

Justice Black, joined by Justice Stewart, dissented. Unpersuaded by the loose reasoning of the majority, Black felt that there was no way to infer that the Constitution contained a right to privacy. He also dismissed the views of the concurrences that it could be found in the Ninth and Fourteenth Amendments.

Justice Stewart, joined by Justice Black, filed a separate dissenting opinion. Stewart argued that despite his personal view that the law was "uncommonly silly," he felt that the Court had no choice but to find it constitutional.

If a law is silly the constitution shouldn't be bent to invent ridiculous reasons like rights to privacy which aren't even really in the constitution to fit a political agenda. Like I said they couldn't even agree which amendment/amendments contained that right to privacy. That should tell you something right there.

Now first off I agree with Justice Black that there is no way to infer the constitution contains a right to privacy. That's a very loose interpretation at best. I go further than that and say that the right to abortion guaranteed by that non-existing right to privacy is an even looser interpretation that if struck down for that reason would be a sound constitutional ruling.

[robayon]

Stomach full of Beef Stew

edit: Daily Show was rocking in the 90's for his hard hitting satire, it came on before South Park. Both of them should have ended in 2000 along with The Simpsons. I hear they are all popular at Frankfurt School.You heard wrong, except maybe about the Simpsons

[Reiwa]

Alito does have Dobbs.

https://i.imgur.com/6eRvwwZ.gif

e: ok that's all for today

[walfreyydo]

Food for thought:

Could the Kyle Rittenhouse verdict actually have a silver lining in that peaceful protesters can now effectively shoot any Proud Boy who shows up to physically intimidate or harm them and claim self defense?

Can the presence of having a gun on a person actually make self defense argument stronger against someone trying to physically harm said person (ie: physical confrontation could result in loss of control of the gun, therefore any physical move against a person with a firearm can be viewed as an act of self defense).

Discuss...

[walfreyydo]

They invested billions in Jared's private equity firm as payback for squashing Khashoggi heat.

Bingo

[walfreyydo]

Jordan Klepper Shows Trump Supporters January 6th Hearing Clips (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hNIJH5gufaQ)

I saw this and it perfectly illustrates how I think people value not admitting their beliefs are wrong over having an actual informed said belief.

Its the same phenomenon you see when people formulate an opinion, and then try to find facts to support that opinion (which ultimately leads you to conspiracy theories when you cant find any "real" information to bolster said pre-existing opinion).

Wild stuff.

[robayon]

Food for thought:

Could the Kyle Rittenhouse verdict actually have a silver lining in that peaceful protesters can now effectively shoot any Proud Boy who shows up to physically intimidate or harm them and claim self defense?

Can the presence of having a gun on a person actually make self defense argument stronger against someone trying to physically harm said person (ie: physical confrontation could result in loss of control of the gun, therefore any physical move against a person with a firearm can be viewed as an act of self defense).

Discuss...The overlap of the Venn Diagram between "people who supported Kyle Rittenhouse and hailed him as a hero" and "people who got mad as hell that there was a dude who got arrested outside of Kavanaugh's house"

[walfreyydo]

Its like someone who decides they dont like electric cars.

Electric cars are superior to ICE cars in almost every possible way.

However, said person doesnt like electric cars for whatever reason (they dont make cool sounds for instance) so despite the evidence to the contrary, said person starts digging into the internet and finds all sorts of misinformation to bolster that pre-existing opinion, usually from nefarious sources connected to fossil fuels:

-electric cars are dirtier because they use electricity from coal (false and even if electricty were coming from coal, the tons of Co2 per mile is still much lower than gasoline).

-electric cars use more Co2 in manufacturing batteries (false)

-electric cars depend on rare minerals so its no different than oil (false, you only need those minerals for the battery, you dont depend on replenishing it for every mile you drive like oil).

The above is an example we see all too common. People form an opinion and instead of changing that opinion based on facts, they just try to find facts which reinforce that opinion, and usually this leads them to believing misinformation (the purveyors of which usually have an agenda that said person does not fully see or want to admit).

[Kaveh]

Alito does have Dobbs.

https://i.imgur.com/6eRvwwZ.gif

e: ok that's all for today

Clarence Thomas suggested in his concurring opinion that there’s no right to birth control as well. I guess he’s asking for someone to sue

[robayon]

Clarence Thomas suggested in his concurring opinion that there’s no right to birth control as well. I guess he’s asking for someone to sueYeesh. All because the conservative base just can't get laid

[Elizondo]

Its like someone who decides they dont like electric cars.

Electric cars are superior to ICE cars in almost every possible way.

However, said person doesnt like electric cars for whatever reason (they dont make cool sounds for instance) so despite the evidence to the contrary, said person starts digging into the internet and finds all sorts of misinformation to bolster that pre-existing opinion, usually from nefarious sources connected to fossil fuels:

-electric cars are dirtier because they use electricity from coal (false and even if electricty were coming from coal, the tons of Co2 per mile is still much lower than gasoline).

-electric cars use more Co2 in manufacturing batteries (false)

-electric cars depend on rare minerals so its no different than oil (false, you only need those minerals for the battery, you dont depend on replenishing it for every mile you drive like oil).

The above is an example we see all too common. People form an opinion and instead of changing that opinion based on facts, they just try to find facts which reinforce that opinion, and usually this leads them to believing misinformation (the purveyors of which usually have an agenda that said person does not fully see or want to admit).

OMG nobody wants to drive an electric car except purple haired losers that believe in a Global Warming fairy tale

[Kaveh]

Yeesh. All because the conservative base just can't get laid

It was his comments in the majority opinion. Roberts had the concurring one, my bad

[robayon]

It was his comments in the majority opinion. Roberts had the concurring one, my badThinking about the Women of Liberia Mass Action for Peace

[Gatordash]

Reddit is turning on Ruth Bader Ginsburg. They are so mad they are actually making a logical point today. :D

[MrSparkle001]

Clarence Thomas suggested in his concurring opinion that there’s no right to birth control as well. I guess he’s asking for someone to sue

But there is no constitutional right to contraception. It's just not there. Just like abortion. It's not in the constitution, anywhere, no matter how some lawyers try to spin interpretations of amendments. It's not there.

It's a document from over 200 years ago, these kinds of modern issues are not contained within. They must be dealt with through state legislatures. The founding fathers did not add contraception or abortion to the constitution. They weren't even part of society back then, so to say the constitution guarantees them is quite frankly a lie.

And no, I'm not talking about how flawed it is to rely on a document written over 200 years ago and does not adapt with the changing times. I'm talking simply about what's contained within the constitution, and abortion and contraception are not there. Simple as that.

I guarantee 99% of the people freaking out over this decision have no clue how the Supreme Court even came to the flawed conclusion in Roe vs Wade that abortion was a constitutionally protected right. They have no clue. They also have no clue that this doesn't make abortion illegal everywhere, it just means it's up to state legislatures because it's not in the constitution.

[Reiwa]

It was his comments in the majority opinion. Roberts had the concurring one, my bad

I think the G's and T's are safe because Gorsuch won't go for it(ala Bostock) and CJR has already showed a willingness to betray the others.

[peterpal]

https://i.imgur.com/DvxvxPO.png

US proving once again that it's a third world country

[Ripp]

But there is no constitutional right to contraception. It's just not there. Just like abortion. It's not in the constitution, anywhere, no matter how some lawyers try to spin interpretations of amendments. It's not there.

It's a document from over 200 years ago, these kinds of modern issues are not contained within. They must be dealt with through state legislatures. The founding fathers did not add contraception or abortion to the constitution. They weren't even part of society back then, so to say the constitution guarantees them is quite frankly a lie.

And no, I'm not talking about how flawed it is to rely on a document written over 200 years ago and does not adapt with the changing times. I'm talking simply about what's contained within the constitution, and abortion and contraception are not there. Simple as that.

I guarantee 99% of the people freaking out over this decision have no clue how the Supreme Court even came to the flawed conclusion in Roe vs Wade that abortion was a constitutionally protected right. They have no clue. They also have no clue that this doesn't make abortion illegal everywhere, it just means it's up to state legislatures because it's not in the constitution.

How dare you present facts. They don't have time for that truth nonsense, they're preparing for "peaceful" riots, arson, and murder.

https://media.giphy.com/media/xUOwFSvfWrZaaEfLTG/giphy.gif

[robayon]

How dare you present facts. They don't have time for that truth nonsense, they're preparing for "peaceful" riots, arson, and murder.

https://media.giphy.com/media/xUOwFSvfWrZaaEfLTG/giphy.gifInshallah

[walfreyydo]

So how do we discern between abortion and miscarriage going forward?

Consider the abortion pill basically forces the womans body to have a miscarriage and there is no real way to tell the difference between a legitimate m/c and an abortion pill induced m/c. Consider also that getting the abortion pill will be extremely easy, even in states where they are illegal (see: dark web)

How many women will be charged with murder who had legitimate miscarriages in red states, especially women who are "pro-life"?

Oh the irony. This is what you get when you rate scoring political points higher than actual critical thought.

Or are we just ok with charging every miscarriage as murder going forward? Its going to happen, especially if said woman is black or brown.

[peterpal]

For that reason, in future cases, we should reconsider all of this Court’s substantive due process precedents, including Griswold, Lawrence, and Obergefell. Because any substantive due process decision is “demonstrably erroneous,

They're coming for gay marriages and gay relationships next.

[Jibartik]

Its like someone who decides they dont like electric cars.

Electric cars are superior to ICE cars in almost every possible way.

However, said person doesnt like electric cars for whatever reason (they dont make cool sounds for instance) so despite the evidence to the contrary, said person starts digging into the internet and finds all sorts of misinformation to bolster that pre-existing opinion, usually from nefarious sources connected to fossil fuels:

-electric cars are dirtier because they use electricity from coal (false and even if electricty were coming from coal, the tons of Co2 per mile is still much lower than gasoline).

-electric cars use more Co2 in manufacturing batteries (false)

-electric cars depend on rare minerals so its no different than oil (false, you only need those minerals for the battery, you dont depend on replenishing it for every mile you drive like oil).

The above is an example we see all too common. People form an opinion and instead of changing that opinion based on facts, they just try to find facts which reinforce that opinion, and usually this leads them to believing misinformation (the purveyors of which usually have an agenda that said person does not fully see or want to admit).

You left out that electric cars cost twice as much that’s the reason.

White progressives are the same as white privileged slaveowners you just assume everybody’s rich.

You have no idea what life is like.

You’re over here talking about how you want the world to be like Star Trek.

Just wait. The market will make it that eventually.

Stop using white supremist authoritarianism to force it.

Electric cars = neo nazi

[walfreyydo]

They're coming for gay marriages and gay relationships next.

I mean when you look at the polls, these are widely accepted today. Its like going after legal weed.

Its going to come back to bite them. Society/culture has changed... they have not.

[walfreyydo]

You have no idea what life is like.

You dont even know me, bitch.

[Elizondo]

Groomers copin and seethin

[MrSparkle001]

You left out that electric cars cost twice as much that’s the reason.

White progressives are the same as white privileged slaveowners you just assume everybody’s rich.

You have no idea what life is like.

You’re over here talking about how you want the world to be like Star Trek.

Just wait. The market will make it that eventually.

Stop using white supremist authoritarianism to force it.

Electric cars = neo nazi

Not only twice as expensive. We don't have the infrastructure to support them. We don't have nearly enough charging stations, we have an electric grid that may not be able to support the increased demand, we have a lot of apartment and condo residents that can't charge at home and would have to schedule hours out of their day to charge...

We aren't ready yet.

[Jibartik]

You dont even know me, bitch.

I know what your message is about.

That’s what matters.

I don’t care about you you’re just a messenger but you’re delivering the message that I speak of.

If you’re trying to tell me that you’re a poor then fine I don’t care.

If you are then I bet you don’t own a Tesla.

But if you do then I apparently knew you pretty well because I just nailed you.

[walfreyydo]

You cant unring the bell. Sorry that truth hurts

[hobart]

But there is no constitutional right to contraception. It's just not there. Just like abortion. It's not in the constitution, anywhere, no matter how some lawyers try to spin interpretations of amendments. It's not there.

It's a document from over 200 years ago, these kinds of modern issues are not contained within. They must be dealt with through state legislatures. The founding fathers did not add contraception or abortion to the constitution. They weren't even part of society back then, so to say the constitution guarantees them is quite frankly a lie.

And no, I'm not talking about how flawed it is to rely on a document written over 200 years ago and does not adapt with the changing times. I'm talking simply about what's contained within the constitution, and abortion and contraception are not there. Simple as that.

I guarantee 99% of the people freaking out over this decision have no clue how the Supreme Court even came to the flawed conclusion in Roe vs Wade that abortion was a constitutionally protected right. They have no clue. They also have no clue that this doesn't make abortion illegal everywhere, it just means it's up to state legislatures because it's not in the constitution.

You don't understands how this works. Every time the court rules on something it becomes part of the body of federal law as laid out in the constitutional framework. The court gives rights by definition and has been doing so forever. It should not be in the business of taking rights away. Ever.

[Reiwa]

You don't understands how this works. Every time the court rules on something it becomes part of the body of federal law as laid out in the constitutional framework. The court gives rights by definition and has been doing so forever. It should not be in the business of taking rights away. Ever.

Even if the court itself invented those rights?

I suppose the Libs 'only have to be lucky once.'

[robayon]

Even if the court itself invented those rights?

I suppose the Libs 'only have to get lucky once.'Pretty sure they need to get lucky a few hundred times

[peterpal]

https://twitter.com/RonBrownstein/status/1540341347931918337

All abortion in Texas, including in cases of rape & incest, will now be illegal by the end of July, 30 days from today. "Doctors could face life in prison and fines up to $100,000 if they perform abortions in violation of the law," per @TexasTribune

[walfreyydo]

Wait until they lock up your wife when she miscarries

[MrSparkle001]

You don't understands how this works. Every time the court rules on something it becomes part of the body of federal law as laid out in the constitutional framework. The court gives rights by definition and has been doing so forever. It should not be in the business of taking rights away. Ever.

Not quite true. It can set precedent but that precedent has to be grounded in the constitution.

It became obvious to me as I read into the legal reasoning behind Roe vs Wade that it would never hold up to scrutiny. The only reason it survived for so long is because everyone was afraid to be the one to strike it down, in my opinion.

Read into it. Read into the odd "right of privacy" they used to set that precedent, which isn't even in the fourteenth amendment in the first place.

[Reiwa]

Pretty sure they need to get lucky a few hundred times

ratchet effect if the topic is permanently immanentized in each particular decision.

[robayon]

Not quite true. It can set precedent but that precedent has to be grounded in the constitution.Pretty sure women aren't mentioned at all in the constitution

[Reiwa]

Pretty sure women aren't mentioned at all in the constitution

Have you ever heard the legend of Abigail the Despot? (https://www.gradesaver.com/the-letters-of-john-and-abigail-adams/study-guide/analysis)

[Elizondo]

https://twitter.com/RonBrownstein/status/1540341347931918337

KdY3SMG1Nn8

[robayon]

Have you ever heard the legend of Abigail the Despot? (https://www.gradesaver.com/the-letters-of-john-and-abigail-adams/study-guide/analysis)I remember Laura Linney urging Paul Giamatti in the miniseries

Even the "nice" founding fathers were pretty shitty, tbh, and here we are stuck trying to untangle patriarchy all these years later while a bunch of rich dudes try real hard to put it all back together

Throw away the constitution

[Jibartik]

If you own an electric car = you would have been a nazi in 1940s germany.

[Kaveh]

But there is no constitutional right to contraception. It's just not there. Just like abortion. It's not in the constitution, anywhere, no matter how some lawyers try to spin interpretations of amendments. It's not there.

It's a document from over 200 years ago, these kinds of modern issues are not contained within. They must be dealt with through state legislatures. The founding fathers did not add contraception or abortion to the constitution. They weren't even part of society back then, so to say the constitution guarantees them is quite frankly a lie.

And no, I'm not talking about how flawed it is to rely on a document written over 200 years ago and does not adapt with the changing times. I'm talking simply about what's contained within the constitution, and abortion and contraception are not there. Simple as that.

I guarantee 99% of the people freaking out over this decision have no clue how the Supreme Court even came to the flawed conclusion in Roe vs Wade that abortion was a constitutionally protected right. They have no clue. They also have no clue that this doesn't make abortion illegal everywhere, it just means it's up to state legislatures because it's not in the constitution.

I don’t think the constitution could stipulate everything we’d ever expect to be a law. We have to interpret the spirit of it it to some degree. I don’t think you should have the right to junk food

Doesn’t really matter what I think though, does it?

[Kaveh]

Not quite true. It can set precedent but that precedent has to be grounded in the constitution.

It became obvious to me as I read into the legal reasoning behind Roe vs Wade that it would never hold up to scrutiny. The only reason it survived for so long is because everyone was afraid to be the one to strike it down, in my opinion.

Read into it. Read into the odd "right of privacy" they used to set that precedent, which isn't even in the fourteenth amendment in the first place.

Serious question. We have graft and grift, we’re bankrupt and can’t fund retirement for most Americans (nor healthcare). Does the fiscally Conservative party going down the path of extreme unpopularity by banning things like birth control help us as a nation?

Letter of the law I agree with you, the constitution doesn’t make birth control a rigjt. But damn man, is drinking a right? Is smoking a cigarette a right? Is having a children a right? We assume many things based on our collective conscience as a nation, and I would posit that drinking and cigarette smoking should be illegal before birth control. The constitution not being explicit on those topics doesn’t really change much.

[Jibartik]

idk why these pregnant people cant just learn to code.

[Kaveh]

You left out that electric cars cost twice as much that’s the reason.

White progressives are the same as white privileged slaveowners you just assume everybody’s rich.

You have no idea what life is like.

You’re over here talking about how you want the world to be like Star Trek.

Just wait. The market will make it that eventually.

Stop using white supremist authoritarianism to force it.

Electric cars = neo nazi

My Tesla was a piece of shit. In cold weather you couldn’t get from Dallas
To Houston and it wasn’t a cheap vehicle. When real engineers build an EV I’ll be interested. Elon needs to stick to podcasting

[Jibartik]

I could care less about elon, its the people that buy his cars thinking its a solution that are the problem.

[Kaveh]

EVs are as good as the grid they’re based on. If we didn’t have opposition to nuclear energy, they would absolutely reduce hydrocarbon emissions

[Jibartik]

EV is a luxury thats all, I dont disagree that luxuries are good and fun.

Forcing it on people because you assume they can afford it and shunning anyone who cant or says they cant, is nazi basically that's what I am saying.

I also agree about nuke power, but we dont, and we dont because of people who like EV's ironically.

[Elizondo]

EV is a luxury thats all, I dont disagree that luxuries are good and fun.

Forcing it on people because you assume they can afford it and shunning anyone who cant or says they cant, is nazi basically that's what I am saying.

Groomers want everyone to buy a 60K electric car that runs on rusty windmills

18083

[Kaveh]

They shouldn’t be subsidized. Other than that, who cares? If people want a car that doesn’t work in cold or go more than 200 miles, be my guest. Like I said, it depends on the grid whether they are good. In a place like Iceland, where electricity is geothermal, there is no doubt they’d be better for the environment. In places where they burn coal, I believe there are studies indicating they are not as good for the environment as many believe

That said, I haven’t extensively researched them. I didn’t like my Tesla and I think until someone figures out a graphene battery, they will face real world challenges due to range and weather

[Jibartik]

I wonder if there is like, such thing as a market driven economy that could solve this problem over time?

[Kaveh]

Why are you being snarky with me? I’m not for EV subsidies. You blaming me for the EV industry?

[Jibartik]

Why are you being snarky with me? I’m not for EV subsidies. You blaming me for the EV industry?

I'm being snarky with the universe.

I strongly believe nothing is going to make people move to renewable energy except the free market.

Only these guys will try to force it:

https://i.imgur.com/jjolobQ.png

[MrSparkle001]

Serious question. We have graft and grift, we’re bankrupt and can’t fund retirement for most Americans (nor healthcare). Does the fiscally Conservative party going down the path of extreme unpopularity by banning things like birth control help us as a nation?

Letter of the law I agree with you, the constitution doesn’t make birth control a rigjt. But damn man, is drinking a right? Is smoking a cigarette a right? Is having a children a right? We assume many things based on our collective conscience as a nation, and I would posit that drinking and cigarette smoking should be illegal before birth control. The constitution not being explicit on those topics doesn’t really change much.

I understand that. I was thinking if abortion is constitutionally protected because of a right to privacy, why not drug use at home as a right to privacy?

Drinking and smoking likewise are not constitutionally protected.

Not everything can or should be in the constitution, and it bothers me when lawyers try that hard to fit something like abortion into it like it's always been there. They're good at it but the reasoning is so flawed it can be easily overturned, like today.

[Kaveh]

Drinking was later addressed after prohibition. And I was trying to make a point that that’s how this will go. This will be deeply unpopular and for no reason, abortion was already basically illegally in lots of the country due to lack of access. Now republicans will have to own these decisions and the country will continue to accrue debt and have no “conservative” party as a result

Bad politics imo

[Kaveh]

I'm being snarky with the universe.

I strongly believe nothing is going to make people move to renewable energy except the free market.

Only these guys will try to force it:

https://i.imgur.com/jjolobQ.png

Nuclear is the best option we have right now. Germany and California are both finding that out

[Mblake1981]

and here we are stuck trying to untangle patriarchy all these years later while a bunch of rich dudes try real hard to put it all back together

This is what happens when you get your balls clipped, folks. You dye your hair and start screeching about Patriarchy, bend over and spell R U N

[robayon]

It isn't just rich dudes, I also don't like gay men trying to push their dicks around in the name of ladies.Sure, but you're an idiot

[Mblake1981]

Sure, but you're an idiot

Coming from you that isn't a cut down.

[MrSparkle001]

EVs are as good as the grid they’re based on. If we didn’t have opposition to nuclear energy, they would absolutely reduce hydrocarbon emissions

Totally agree.

I do believe EVs are the future, and it would be SO glorious to remove ourselves from that Russian and Middle Eastern yoke. In the U.S. we have the capability to completely free ourselves from them but there's too much pressure to keep our refining low, both market and political pressure.

Nuclear energy is the clear path to this, along with massive investment in the infrastructure needed to support these EVs, but again nuclear energy faces strong opposition. These progressives think the future is solar panels and wind energy everywhere, not understanding that it also requires massive battery infrastructure to store the energy to use when needed and not just during a sunny day.

It's coming in time. I'm in my mid 40s and expect to see a significant shift to EVs in my natural lifetime, but these stupid progressives think it's like flipping a switch and that these current high gas prices are the catalyst.

[Jibartik]

Nuclear is the best option we have right now. Germany and California are both finding that out

We have already gone through this in America from start to finish.

bIGH1AfIS18

All you're saying is, that they lied to us for 50 years, and the free market is starting to push back and take control again, like it almost did 50 years ago.

It's just like they are lying to us now about being able to move to renewable energy before we are capable of it.

In 50 years we'll find out the entire dialogue was COMPLETELY WRONG... just like the entire dialogue about Nuclear power.

We're on a treadmill.

[Mblake1981]

They were afraid of people cutting-corners with safety after harnessing the power of our Sun.

p/s, Jane Fonda was a commie during these years iirc. Hanoi Jane

Who is Jane Fonda? This is a question often asked by many people with no one right answer. She is an actress, a fitness guru, a former communist sympathizer, and most importantly, an antiwar activist during the Vietnam War.

https://i.imgur.com/d7Ds2u8.jpg

[MrSparkle001]

Drinking was later addressed after prohibition. And I was trying to make a point that that’s how this will go. This will be deeply unpopular and for no reason, abortion was already basically illegally in lots of the country due to lack of access. Now republicans will have to own these decisions and the country will continue to accrue debt and have no “conservative” party as a result

Bad politics imo

But Supreme Court decisions should never be about politics. That's called legislating from the bench, which is basically this:

“Legislating from the bench” implies a justice system comprised of two types of judges: those who merely interpret law and those with political agendas who create law.

Their decisions should be based on a basic question: Is it in the constitution, not in the constitution, or do we have to jump through hoops and create dubious interpretations to pretend it's in the constitution to fit a political agenda?

Like the decision to overturn NY's concealed carry law: Even though it might be more popular to confirm the law based on modern society's firearms being way more destructive than the muskets of the 1700s and our declining society's propensity for mass shootings, it wouldn't be a proper interpretation of the constitution. It says clear as day "the right to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed."

I know dumbass Biden said the decision to overturn that law isn't constitutional but it so clearly is constitutional.

We are living in interesting times.