the i dont care about politics anymore thread

[Reiwa]

Please explain all of this, seems interesting but I don’t understand what you are saying

They're happy and seem to think it means a different Conservative will be in charge because he already wrote one from that session today. So assuming a Con victory it will be a broader change than if he was in charge of it.

[Jibartik]

is twitter real or is the media???

[Horza]

https://i.imgur.com/WYKA8Xl.jpg

[Jibartik]

Trump/Green 2024

[Jibartik]

god I love the apocalypse!!

https://i.imgur.com/0gPstQV.png

[Horza]

Trump/Green 2024

Where we're going, you don't need to know how to spell the word martial.

[MrSparkle001]

is twitter real or is the media???

Well it's definitely not the media.

[Rethalis]

Biden took the idea from his buddy, China

Any information critical of the state = misinformation, amirite?


Disinformation governence board. The fact the government has to waste more dollars on more useless buroacracy just because Elon bought Twitter is fucking insane. My guess is they are worried Elon won't do the bidding of the government.

[Ooloo]

Oh god I just saw some fuckin SNL clip where michael che says something like "white dudes just wanna be able to say the N word on twitter!"

Like no buddy the hunter biden laptop suppression literally may have swayed the election, and that is not a conspiracy theory. Polls reflect this.

[Ooloo]

Also the terms "mis and disinformation" need to both go straight into the fucking sun. Fuck off, you orwellian psychos.

[Rethalis]

Also the terms "mis and disinformation" need to both go straight into the fucking sun. Fuck off, you orwellian psychos.

I always roll my eyes when I hear that. The constitution always gets in the way for these big brother types.

[robayon]

Like no buddy the hunter biden laptop suppression literally may have swayed the election, and that is not a conspiracy theory. Polls reflect this.You're precious. You gripe about terms like "mis and dis" information and then in the previous post you say stuff like "the suppression of the laptop may have swayed the election"

You've got some slippery standards. I am sure it gets tiresome constantly pretzeling your own mind on behalf of the wealthy cryptofascists you constantly work to defend

[Jibartik]

Revelation 13:3

[Rethalis]

You're precious. You gripe about terms like "mis and dis" information and then in the previous post you say stuff like "the suppression of the laptop may have swayed the election"

You've got some slippery standards. I am sure it gets tiresome constantly pretzeling your own mind on behalf of the wealthy cryptofascists you constantly work to defend

How did figure that pompous narrative off two posts?

[Horza]

Disinformation governence board. The fact the government has to waste more dollars on more useless buroacracy just because Elon bought Twitter is fucking insane. My guess is they are worried Elon won't do the bidding of the government.

Getting Twitter banned from the E.U. sounds like a good way to recoup a 44 billion dollar investment. Are conservative idiots really this gullible?

[robayon]

How did figure that pompous narrative off two posts?All of Ooloo's previous posts are a factor. His standard for what information he absorbs, regurgitates, or rejects just varies wildly. He's very inconsistent.

I mean, he's a conservative, so that sorta stuff is baked into the pie, but he's real bad about it in particular.

[robayon]

Getting Twitter banned from the E.U. sounds like a good way to recoup a 44 billion dollar investment. Are conservative idiots really this gullible?I think all of that is overblown. I support Elon buying Twitter for the same reason I supported Joe Biden making a mandate for vaccines at workplaces which was later chucked out by the supreme court: what is the course of action most likely to derail the whole thing?

Twitter getting banned from the EU, and everywhere else eventually, once Elon runs it all into the ground, would be good for the species

I mean, something else takes its place eventually, like Myspace and Facebook, but my hope is in the long term billionaires ruining absolutely everything everywhere for everyone causes us to correctly see billionaires as the source of many of our daily problems and destroy one of their primary tools for mass manipulation: social media

[Jibartik]

Getting Twitter banned from the E.U. sounds like a good way to recoup a 44 billion dollar investment. Are conservative idiots really this gullible?

worth considering

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[unsunghero]

Oh god I just saw some fuckin SNL clip where michael che says something like "white dudes just wanna be able to say the N word on twitter!"

Like no buddy the hunter biden laptop suppression literally may have swayed the election, and that is not a conspiracy theory. Polls reflect this.

Definitely won’t be able to say the N word on Twitter lol

Conservatives have already been testing the waters supposedly. Things that used to be instantly bannable but as of Elon’s purchase aren’t being policed are:

1. Misgendering someone

2. Speculation about the last election - this is dicey. I think saying the last election was fraudulent is still bannable. But questioning the change to mail in voting, or the suppression of the hunter Biden laptop story by big tech right before the election is no longer bannable

Not sure about what else might fly now

[Jibartik]

has elon ever pitched his idea of what the rules should be for twitter?

[Ooloo]

There's just fundamentally no good argument for censorship.

The left's pro-censorship argument seems to boil down to: Other people (who are not me of course) are too stupid to not do bad things if they hear bad words.

And then they wonder why people call them snobby elitists. If you're smart and intelligent, you dissuade bad speech with good speech. You don't ban it like a coward who has no real talents or arguments or anything to say.

[unsunghero]

has elon ever pitched his idea of what the rules should be for twitter?

Yep. He did right away

Any legal speech will be legal on Twitter, he was saying

So these would essentially be twitter’s rules

[Ooloo]

has elon ever pitched his idea of what the rules should be for twitter?

Yes, he said they should be the same as what is legally allowed by the US constitution, since twitter is a US company supposedly dedicated to the exchange of ideas.

Here's hitchens again perfectly explaining this issue for the dolts: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9YhEfTpCILk (this was in reference to the debate over cartoons critical of islam, but it's the exact same principle).

"One of the vices of those who would oppress the opinions of others is that they make themselves the prisoners of their own opinions."

[Jibartik]

his 8 comandments.

[Horza]

There's just fundamentally no good argument for censorship.

The left's pro-censorship argument seems to boil down to: Other people (who are not me of course) are too stupid to not do bad things if they hear bad words.

And then they wonder why people call them snobby elitists. If you're smart and intelligent, you dissuade bad speech with good speech. You don't ban it like a coward who has no real talents or arguments or anything to say.

Hundreds of millions of dollars in E.U. fines would seem like a pretty good argument to me if I was a ruthless capitalist businessman.

[robayon]

If you're smart and intelligent, you dissuade bad speech with good speech. You don't ban it like a coward who has no real talents or arguments or anything to say.hey ooloo is killing someone an effective form of stopping their speech, you think?

yeah more hypocritical drivel, you guys on the right love censorship, you just call it by another name

feel free to dissuade me with speech, it worked so well for you last time you whined about abortions in america while ignoring the piles of dead babies our actions collectively result in elsewhere

[unsunghero]

Hundreds of millions of dollars in E.U. fines would seem like a pretty good argument to me if I was a ruthless capitalist businessman.

[unsunghero]

Hate speech now allowed on Twitter :(

Sad day

[starkind]

Hate to say this ooloo bias and propaganda misinformation disinformation. It exists. It's a fact of life. Left, right, both scream it and fake news.

The real problem is people not wanting to acknowledge their side is doing it. Or even willing to admit they do it. And so they will go die on a hill... to get their way.

Say on abortion. Instead of just supporting the facts and doing the conservative thing. Keeping the government out of it whether it's for or against it.

[Horza]

If you think a big corporation like Twitter cares more about pandering to Trumptards who can't get past his embarrassing loss than access to half a billion Europeans, then you're going to be in for an unpleasant surprise.

[unsunghero]

If you think a big corporation like Twitter cares more about pandering to Trumptards who can't get past his embarrassing loss than access to half a billion Europeans, then you're going to be in for an unpleasant surprise.

I haven’t been following the EU thing, they’re trying to sue Elon for being a non-liberal billionaire or what?

[unsunghero]

Yeah, I imagine they don't cover things like that on Fox News for the most part.

“Allowing EU governments to request removal of illegal content, including material that promotes terrorism, child sexual abuse, hate speech and commercial scams”

Looks like hezbollah, hamas, and the Taliban gonna have to do their recruiting elsewhere than Twitter now huh

[Bardp1999]

Is this shit real or made up?

https://www.nationalreview.com/2022/04/bidens-ministry-of-truth/

What in the actual fuck, a "ministry of truth" and "misinformation board"... ????

Is this North Korea, what the fuck is happening? When are the "reeducation" camps coming?

[Horza]

I haven’t been following the EU thing

But Breton said he wanted to offer a “reality check” to Musk’s plans for less stringent moderation. The E.U. commissioner, who was key in negotiating the new Digital Services Act, warned that a lack of compliance from Twitter risked a ban for the platform in Europe. (https://www.ft.com/content/22f66209-f5b2-4476-8cdb-de4befffebe5)

“Anyone who wants to benefit from this market will have to fulfil our rules. The board of Twitter will have to make sure that if it operates in Europe it will have to fulfil the obligations, including moderation, open algorithms, freedom of speech, transparency in rules, obligations to comply with our own rules for hate speech, revenge porn and harassment.”

“If [Twitter] does not comply with our law, there are sanctions—6 per cent of the revenue and, if they continue, banned from operating in Europe,” he added.

[Bardp1999]

And you retards thought Trump was a problem? Good fucking lord save us baby jesus

[robayon]

Is this shit real or made up?

https://www.nationalreview.com/2022/04/bidens-ministry-of-truth/

What in the actual fuck, a "ministry of truth" and "misinformation board"... ????

Is this North Korea, what the fuck is happening?ron desantis made election police and few people batted an eye

fascism is capitalism in decay, what did you expect from the oligarchs that control our country

[unsunghero]

But Breton said he wanted to offer a “reality check” to Musk’s plans for less stringent moderation. The E.U. commissioner, who was key in negotiating the new Digital Services Act, warned that a lack of compliance from Twitter risked a ban for the platform in Europe. (https://www.ft.com/content/22f66209-f5b2-4476-8cdb-de4befffebe5)

“Anyone who wants to benefit from this market will have to fulfil*our rules. The board [of Twitter] will have to make sure that if it operates in Europe it will have to fulfil the obligations, including moderation, open algorithms, freedom of speech, transparency in rules, obligations to comply with our own rules for hate speech, revenge porn [and] harassment.”

“If [Twitter] does not comply with our law, there are sanctions—6 per cent of the revenue and, if they continue, banned from operating in Europe,” he added.

You already have no speech rights in the UK lol

Nothing changes, this is for EU Twitter users. The EU cannot police USA users, they have no jurisdiction here

Any EU user of Twitter that is too stupid to figure out how to use a VP will have restricted online speech including on Twitter

Another Nothing burger leaves me feeling so unsatisfied

[Ooloo]

hey ooloo is killing someone an effective form of stopping their speech, you think?

yeah more hypocritical drivel, you guys on the right love censorship, you just call it by another name

feel free to dissuade me with speech, it worked so well for you last time you whined about abortions in america while ignoring the piles of dead babies our actions collectively result in elsewhere

Haha "whined about abortions".

Yeah I do tend to whine about the murder of unborn defenseless baby human beings.

[starkind]

It doesn't matter who is doing it when both sides are gonna kill you all. Just so you know that your side isn't interested in winning to save you.

Your side is interested in winning unilaterally so that slaves area cheeper to keep or easier to control or they aren't held accountable for neglect.

Hope this helps. Again.

[nilzark]

ILUVKIUdHNo

[Horza]

You already have no speech rights in the UK lol

Nothing changes, this is for EU Twitter users. The EU cannot police USA users, they have no jurisdiction here

Any EU user of Twitter that is too stupid to figure out how to use a VP will have restricted online speech including on Twitter

Another Nothing burger leaves me feeling so unsatisfied

lol if you think they're going to spend hundreds of millions on fines just so you dumbasses can talk about Hunter's laptop.

[robayon]

Haha "whined about abortions".

Yeah I do tend to whine about the murder of unborn defenseless baby human beings.No, you whine about them if they're American. You look the other way on all the others. Just like you're ignoring the censorship when your "team" does it.

This is because you don't actually care about either of those things, you care about preserving the hierarchy

That's really all atavistic conservatism boils down to. People near the top of the hierarchy love the hierarchy

[Raj]

It doesn't matter who is doing it when both sides are gonna kill you all. Just so you know that your side isn't interested in winning to save you.

Your side is interested in winning unilaterally so that slaves area cheeper to keep or easier to control or they aren't held accountable for neglect.

Hope this helps. Again.

Yep yep! The super rich of all/both politcal persuasions love how much cheaper it is to hire undocumented workers hungry to work hard for much lesd than citizens - hence why only lip service is paid to the issue of massive illegal immigration at election time but then they dont actually change anything major after the elections are over... :cool:

[Ooloo]

No, you whine about them if they're American. You look the other way on all the others. Just like you're ignoring the censorship when your "team" does it.

This is because you don't actually care about either of those things, you care about preserving the hierarchy

That's really all atavistic conservatism boils down to. People near the top of the hierarchy love the hierarchy

The *intentional* killing of babies for literally no reason other than the convenience of the mother, en masse, is significantly worse morally than the accidental killing of babies in military conflicts. Super simple, super easy to understand.

When palestinians blow up israeli babies on purpose you guys say "we need to understand the context!!". When the israeli military accidentally kills a palestinian child while defending it's *own* children, it's the crime of the century. Fuck off with your moral relativism.

[unsunghero]

lol if you think they're going to spend hundreds of millions on fines just so you dumbasses can talk about Hunter's laptop.

The EU can’t fine twitter because I said The President’s son is a crackhead who bangs underage escorts

I live in AZ. That is not in the EU. EU laws do not affect me

Sorry the EU can’t protect your fee fee’s from being hurt from mean words online from Americans

[robayon]

Nothing changes, this is for EU Twitter users. The EU cannot police USA users, they have no jurisdiction herepeople who deal with europeans at work would disagree, never heard of how GDPR changed how american companies had to change many standard practices because of it, I guess?

this may be my wonkiest post ever but it's pertinent to my past work, that shit caused all kinds of weird problems at my old job

[unsunghero]

people who deal with europeans at work would disagree, never heard of how GDPR changed how american companies had to change many standard practices because of it, I guess?

this may be my wonkiest post ever but it's pertinent to my past work, that shit caused all kinds of weird problems at my old job

I don’t foresee much changing. It doesn’t matter the online medium, you have almost no online speech rights in Britain. If you went into a yahoo chat room and said “I don’t like Muslim immigrants” enough you would be arrested in the UK. Or on Twitter. Or literally anywhere else online. It’s not about the platform, it’s about your physical location

[Horza]

The EU can’t fine twitter because I said The President’s son is a crackhead who bangs underage escorts

I live in AZ. That is not in the EU. EU laws do not affect me

Sorry the EU can’t protect your fee fee’s from being hurt from mean words online from Americans

I'm just looking forward to GOP politicians dragging Musk into Congress and yelling at him for flagging their tweets calling for Pelosi to be hung or Planned Parenthood employees gunned down.

[robayon]

The *intentional* killing of babies for literally no reason other than the convenience of the mother, en masse, is significantly worse morally than the accidental killing of babies in military conflicts. Super simple, super easy to understand.

When palestinians blow up israeli babies on purpose you guys say "we need to understand the context!!". When the israeli military accidentally kills a palestinian child while defending it's *own* children, it's the crime of the century. Fuck off with your moral relativism.great, selective use of relativism while criticizing my own relativism

now imagine a drone has struck a wedding and killed a buncha babies because one person there might be a terrorist

or better yet, more kids starving to death because american sanctions are strangling their countries

i guess those piles of dead babies are okay with you? No, it's just that you don't actually care about babies dying, you care about preserving the hierarchy

hope this helps you perceive your own moral relativism

[unsunghero]

I'm just looking forward to GOP politicians dragging Musk into Congress and yelling at him for flagging their tweets calling for Pelosi to be hung or Planned Parenthood employees gunned down.

Which GOP politician said to hang Pelosi or shoot people again?

[robayon]

I'm just looking forward to GOP politicians dragging Musk into Congress and yelling at him for flagging their tweets calling for Pelosi to be hung or Planned Parenthood employees gunned down.Even if they do yell at him they're all going to a party later that day on Chuck Schumer's yacht

[Horza]

Which GOP politician said to hang Pelosi or shoot people again?

At one point, Greene was questioned about the fact that her Facebook account liked a post from a commenter stating that "a bullet to the head would be quicker" to remove Pelosi. "I've had many people manage my social media account over the years, I have no idea who liked that," she insisted. "I do not know." (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3gJkqymzd64)

I guess I just answered my previous question about whether conservative idiots are really that gullible.

[unsunghero]

At one point, Greene was questioning about the fact that her Facebook account liked a post from a commenter stating that "a bullet to the head would be quicker" to remove Pelosi.

"I've had many people manage my social media account over the years, I have no idea who liked that," she insisted. "I do not know." (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3gJkqymzd64)

I guess I just answered my previous question about whether conservative idiots are really that gullible.

The best you can find from all of MTG is not even anything she said but liking someone else’s post more than 3 years ago?

This is why you aren’t paid for your work of following major conservative public figures. You produce shit results

[Reiwa]

Like no buddy the hunter biden laptop suppression literally may have swayed the election, and that is not a conspiracy theory. Polls reflect this.

You've never explained the part that obligates anyone to promote your narrative and I've asked a bunch of times. :p

[Kaveh]

If a person finds out their child in utero has an incurable illness and will die, suffering, in a hospital, is abortion permissible? Are there any exceptions for this in the many state laws being passed around the country right now?

Asking as an informed citizen who doesn’t take political opinions directly from the pulpit

[unsunghero]

You've never explained the part that obligates anyone to promote your narrative and I've asked a bunch of times. :p

Suppression is different than promotion. A lack of promotion would be doing nothing. Suppression would be removing the information

[Horza]

The best you can find from all of MTG is not even anything she said but liking someone else’s post more than 3 years ago?

This is why you aren’t paid for your work of following major conservative public figures. You produce shit results

You just asked for an example and I gave you one, chill out and watch some Tucker or something.

[starkind]

Horza cannot be real.

[Kaveh]

You already have no speech rights in the UK lol

Nothing changes, this is for EU Twitter users. The EU cannot police USA users, they have no jurisdiction here

Any EU user of Twitter that is too stupid to figure out how to use a VP will have restricted online speech including on Twitter

Another Nothing burger leaves me feeling so unsatisfied

The UK has no speech rights? They are tougher on libel and slander, but Iran has “no speech rights.” The UK is one of the freest countries in this history of this planet

[unsunghero]

You asked for an example and I just gave you one, chill out and watch some Tucker or something.

I don’t even have a hobby of following Liberal crazies and I can at least find something actually SAID:

Maxine Waters: “If you see anybody from that cabinet in a restaurant, in a department store, at a gasoline station, you get out and you create a crowd, and you push back on them, and you tell them they’re not welcome anymore, anywhere”

Surround an individual with a crowd to let them know they are not welcome literally anywhere?

[Reiwa]

Suppression is different than promotion. A lack of promotion would be doing nothing. Suppression would be removing the information

They tell me to say something about a platform. I'm still backreading, sorry.

[Reiwa]

Say on abortion. Instead of just supporting the facts and doing the conservative thing. Keeping the government out of it whether it's for or against it.

Nuh uh. More rights for everyone. Or else!! :mad:

[Kaveh]

Do you guys ever question the conservative crazies? They exist, and they are much closer to actionable power than any liberal. This country can barely get Biden elected with a 50/50 senate. “Leftists” have never and will never hold power here. Do you guys worry about some of the other people being absolute morons on the red team doing bad shit? I feel like some of you have blinders on

There are worse people in this world than Biden and Hillary, who yes, are deeply corrupt and fucking morons. Just my $0.02

[Reiwa]

Is this shit real or made up?

https://www.nationalreview.com/2022/04/bidens-ministry-of-truth/

What in the actual fuck, a "ministry of truth" and "misinformation board"... ????

Is this North Korea, what the fuck is happening? When are the "reeducation" camps coming?

And you retards thought Trump was a problem? Good fucking lord save us baby jesus

The answer to this one is "fifth column". It's a heckin' valid national security concern.

[unsunghero]

“Leftists” have never and will never hold power here

Right now they have the executive branch, the house majority, and I believe pre-trump they had a judicial majority of judges to be their legislative henchmen

Culturally they have:

Most of Big Tech still

Just about all of Academia/higher education

Hollywood, the movie industry, the music industry that our children grow up watching

Very big, very powerful investment companies like Blackrock

Local governance and the legal system in blue states


They have far more power than Conservatives have. No bother though, I like having all these entities against me. Never liked it when I was part of an overwhelming side, being outnumbered creates more challenge and challenge creates more growth

[Horza]

Do you guys ever question the conservative crazies? They exist, and they are much closer to actionable power than any liberal. This country can barely get Biden elected with a 50/50 senate. “Leftists” have never and will never hold power here. Do you guys worry about some of the other people being absolute morons on the red team doing bad shit? I feel like some of you have blinders on

There are worse people in this world than Biden and Hillary, who yes, are deeply corrupt and fucking morons. Just my $0.02

They obviously don't, given that you have to ask while simultaneously getting yelled at about big vax injecting 5g into your veins.

[Reiwa]

Right now they have the executive branch, the house majority, and I believe pre-trump they had a judicial majority of judges to be their legislative henchmen

Culturally they have:

Most of Big Tech still

Just about all of Academia/higher education

Hollywood, the movie industry, the music industry that our children grow up watching

Very big, very powerful investment companies like Blackrock

Local governance and the legal system in blue states


They have far more power than Conservatives have. No bother though, I like having all these entities against me. Never liked it when I was part of an overwhelming side, being outnumbered creates more challenge and challenge creates more growth

Social Left or Economic Left?

[unsunghero]

Social Left or Economic Left?

Probably a lot of variation. I just mean staffed by people who are registered Democrats or vote Dem

[Kaveh]

Right now they have the executive branch, the house majority, and I believe pre-trump they had a judicial majority of judges to be their legislative henchmen

Culturally they have:

Most of Big Tech still

Just about all of Academia/higher education

Hollywood, the movie industry, the music industry that our children grow up watching

Very big, very powerful investment companies like Blackrock

Local governance and the legal system in blue states


They have far more power than Conservatives have. No bother though, I like having all these entities against me. Never liked it when I was part of an overwhelming side, being outnumbered creates more challenge and challenge creates more growth

Joe Biden is not a leftist. They have the smallest “house majority” in history and have passed nothing consequential. Even if they had, it wouldn’t make it through the senate because of the Democrat from your state. In the midterms, the democrats are about to get smoked

As far as media, yeah man, liberals go into media. You think rednecks take theater in high school? I’m a culturally conservative religious man from one of the most conservative places on earth. I played football, didn’t take Ballet or theater or band or any of that shit. You also won’t find too many engineers in my field who are liberal. People have different inclinations. Churches certainly aren’t liberal, nor are police, firemen, or soldiers. The nation at large supports veterans, hardly a culturally liberal position

I think you overestimate how centrist the country is and just how far the fringe of the Republican Party is drifting from the constitution. AOC is a dumb ass, but she has ZERO shot of forming an agenda at the federal level. As far as states, yeah, left wingers hold power. Who cares, that’s a feature of our democracy. Let states do what they want. I assure you, there will be more states banning abortion then teaching CRT. You aren’t losing the culture war, but with enough of the current crop of republicans winning elections, you just might lose a lot of limitations of government enshrined by the constitution

[unsunghero]

Joe Biden is not a leftist. They have the smallest “house majority” in history and have passed nothing consequential. Even if they had, it wouldn’t make it through the senate because of the Democrat from your state. In the midterms, the democrats are about to get smoked

As far as media, yeah man, liberals go into media. You think rednecks take theater in high school? I’m a culturally conservative religious man from one of the most conservative places on earth. I played football, didn’t take Ballet or theater or band or any of that shit. You also won’t find too many engineers in my field who are liberal. People have different inclinations. Churches certainly aren’t liberal, nor are police, firemen, or soldiers. The nation at large supports veterans, hardly a culturally liberal position

I think you overestimate how centrist the country is and just how far the fringe of the Republican Party is drifting from the constitution. AOC is a dumb ass, but she has ZERO shot of forming an agenda at the federal level. As far as states, yeah, left wingers hold power. Who cares, that’s a feature of our democracy. Let states do what they want. I assure you, there will be more states banning abortion then teaching CRT. You aren’t losing the culture war, but with enough of the current crop of republicans winning elections, you just might lose a lot of limitations of government enshrined by the constitution

It doesn’t matter how you think Joe Biden appears or what not, he is a Democrat last I checked. When I say the left, I mean democrats. You can try to twist them as centrists or the Dem version of RINO (DINO? You don’t see that term often), but they are still registered democrats

The culture war is important in my opinion. Yes, the fringe right is more dangerous and crazy than the fringe left. But I see their impact as small. Sometimes deadly, but still small, in the grand scope of things

[Reiwa]

Social Left or Economic Left?

Probably a lot of variation. I just mean staffed by people who are registered Democrats or vote Dem

https://i.imgur.com/cR1lJUN.gif

Social Left, QED.

[Kaveh]

What culture war? Trans dudes winning swimming meets? That’s on the same level as “Jewish space lasers” to you from members of Congress? Cmon dude, no way

[Reiwa]

I'm gettin' real tired of rednecks calling me a Communist for believing Equal Protection includes the queers. 😾

[unsunghero]

What culture war? Trans dudes winning swimming meets? That’s on the same level as “Jewish space lasers” to you from members of Congress? Cmon dude, no way

I’ll check the definition, I don’t recall seeing trans dudes in there

Culture: The customs, arts, social institutions, and achievements of a particular nation

The culture war to me is political influences on the information we take in which shapes our collective national culture

[Kaveh]

Those have never been conservative. Just like militaries have never been liberal. Maybe you’re just too plugged in?

Iran has a very liberal movie industry. That’s just the way it goes bud (Iran is not liberal)

[Kaveh]

Also, our National culture is a result of our piss poor education system and 30-50% obesity rates depending on where you are. I don’t see either party offering constructive solutions

[unsunghero]

Those have never been conservative. Just like militaries have never been liberal. Maybe you’re just too plugged in?

Iran has a very liberal movie industry. That’s just the way it goes bud (Iran is not liberal)

So because in your opinion (And that’s all that is, your opinion) they have never been “conservative”, I shouldn’t care about democrat politics influences on them?

I appreciate telling me what I should care about but I still do. Anything else I need to know?

[Ooloo]

great, selective use of relativism while criticizing my own relativism

now imagine a drone has struck a wedding and killed a buncha babies because one person there might be a terrorist

or better yet, more kids starving to death because american sanctions are strangling their countries

i guess those piles of dead babies are okay with you? No, it's just that you don't actually care about babies dying, you care about preserving the hierarchy

hope this helps you perceive your own moral relativism

Yes, great, you are once again doing the lefty thing which is highlighting the incredibly rare, most morally egregious example of something, just like you always do with abortion. "What if a woman got RAPED!", it's like yeah well, that's a tiny tiny minorty of abortions, so let's grant that! Full abortions for rape victims, so now with that out of the way, do you support banning the rest of the abortions, that are almost always for personal convenience on the part of both the mother and the dude who knocked her up? No? Still not willing to condemn those?

Imagine a drone blows up your wedding *on purpose*, specifically because it *IS A WEDDING*, and they want to inflict the maximum amount of emotional pain and suffering as the TOP PRIORITY. Israel is not doing this, and if they ever do, I would gladly condemn it.

[unsunghero]

Also, our National culture is a result of our piss poor education system and 30-50% obesity rates depending on where you are. I don’t see either party offering constructive solutions

Our education is bad but culture is far more than that

Same with obesity. Cultural changes could in fact help quite a lot with obesity, but not solve or remove it

[Kaveh]

it’s obviously just my opinion snowflake

[Kaveh]

Our education is bad but culture is far more than that

Same with obesity. Cultural changes could in fact help quite a lot with obesity, but not solve or remove it

Well on that at least we agree!

[unsunghero]

it’s obviously just my opinion snowflake

2015 called, it wants it’s tired, overused catchphrases back

So we can both agree that culture is much more than trans men crushing women’s sports, and disagree on the influence politics plays on it

I’m ok with that

[Kaveh]

The idea of a culture war is used to animate you and others to ignore the very real and bad things republicans are doing across the country. What is amazing to me is how easily I can afford a new house or car or flight, but what do you get from kowtowing to oligarchs? I really and truly don’t understand what the current Republican Party represents for you. What “National culture” objectives are they moving forward for you?

I’m seriously asking, because I don’t get it at all

[Kaveh]

If a person finds out their child in utero has an incurable illness and will die, suffering, in a hospital, is abortion permissible? Are there any exceptions for this in the many state laws being passed around the country right now?

Asking as an informed citizen who doesn’t take political opinions directly from the pulpit

No one who supports the blanket abortion bans answered this. How can you compel a child to suffer? And yes, it happens. Why is it your decision and not that of the parents ?

[robayon]

Yes, great, you are once again doing the lefty thing which is highlighting the incredibly rare, most morally egregious example of something, just like you always do with abortion. "What if a woman got RAPED!", it's like yeah well, that's a tiny tiny minorty of abortions, so let's grant that! Full abortions for rape victims, so now with that out of the way, do you support banning the rest of the abortions, that are almost always for personal convenience on the part of both the mother and the dude who knocked her up? No? Still not willing to condemn those?

Imagine a drone blows up your wedding *on purpose*, specifically because it *IS A WEDDING*, and they want to inflict the maximum amount of emotional pain and suffering as the TOP PRIORITY. Israel is not doing this, and if they ever do, I would gladly condemn it.Ooloo does the righty thing where he deliberately misses the larger point and then argues against a detail in a vain effort to steer the conversation away from his glaring hypocrisy.

While I do condemn Israeli and their apartheid policies, and support freedom for Palestinians, I've never been there and will never go there. That was your highly selective example, not mine.

But I criticize America, thoroughly, and American status quo "morals" being meaningless

American policies create a lot of dead babies for a lot of bad reasons, whether it's bombs or commerce or soldiers or school shooters

So, yeah, you don't actually care about dead babies or you'd be explicity critical of the US military and US foreign policy, as well as standard business practices of American companies. You just want the "correct" babies to die because that preserves your personal place near the top of the hierarchy.

[unsunghero]

The idea of a culture war is used to animate you and others to ignore the very real and bad things republicans are doing across the country

Those evil, evil republicans. Does claiming to be some form of conservative to attempt to cushion future stated biases tend to work?

I’m biased too, but I’m out with it. Embrace it


What is amazing to me is how easily I can afford a new house or car or flight, but what do you get from kowtowing to oligarchs? I really and truly don’t understand what the current Republican Party represents for you. What “National culture” objectives are they moving forward for you?

I’m seriously asking, because I don’t get it at all

Economy is bad now due to inflation I agree

I would like a return to an emphasis on traditionalism, marriage, the family unit, faith, personal responsibility, those sorts things

I really can’t expand much bc I’m at work and have to go :/

[Kaveh]

I’ve voted overwhelmingly Republican at the national level and near 100% of the time at the state level. Texas Dems have never had any appeal

I am a conservative for most of America’s history. I didn’t change, and imposing those “values” on people is unconstitutional. Obviously self reliance is a virtue. Why then are Republican states more obese? Is taking Medicaid for insulin not welfare? As I said initially, there are blinders on

And you still won’t answer the abortion question which is a very real and actionable result of the Republican “culture war”

[unsunghero]

I’ve voted overwhelmingly Republican at the national level and near 100% of the time at the state level. Texas Dems have never had any appeal

I am a conservative for most of America’s history. I didn’t change, and imposing those “values” on people is unconstitutional. Obviously self reliance is a virtue. Why then are Republican states more obese? Is taking Medicaid for insulin not welfare? As I said initially, there are blinders on

And you still won’t answer the abortion question which is a very real and actionable result of the Republican “culture war”

Culture doesn’t impose anything on anyone. How would it do that? I hold them down and force them to get married to be able to leave the room? I say in order to graduate from this college you have to become a Christian? Culture is more like a series of suggestions than an imposition

I’m pro-choice but based on circumstance. I think having an abortion for the sake of your career, or having a late-term one, is sick. Should it be illegal? Well yea very late-term ones I do think should be. Before a certain time I’m more pro-choice

[Kaveh]

Yes, great, you are once again doing the lefty thing which is highlighting the incredibly rare, most morally egregious example of something, just like you always do with abortion. "What if a woman got RAPED!", it's like yeah well, that's a tiny tiny minorty of abortions, so let's grant that! Full abortions for rape victims, so now with that out of the way, do you support banning the rest of the abortions, that are almost always for personal convenience on the part of both the mother and the dude who knocked her up? No? Still not willing to condemn those?

Imagine a drone blows up your wedding *on purpose*, specifically because it *IS A WEDDING*, and they want to inflict the maximum amount of emotional pain and suffering as the TOP PRIORITY. Israel is not doing this, and if they ever do, I would gladly condemn it.

Doesn’t matter. The constitution confirms the right of the individual against the many. One example is sufficient if you are violating the principles undergirding the foundation of the Republic

Tyranny of the majority is still tyranny

[robayon]

No one who supports the blanket abortion bans answered this. How can you compel a child to suffer? And yes, it happens. Why is it your decision and not that of the parents ?These right-wing fellas here tend to fall apart when you actually get them mad enough to talk about their ideology, or sealion them or whatever

Some of them might actually claim to be libertarians, which is hilarious, given the point you're trying to get them to see here

[Bardp1999]

We need the Ministry of Truths Board of Misinformation to get the Reeducation (through labor) camps up and running so we can get Americans back on track.

We have a Ministry of Truth, fucking grab your guns the revolt is almost here

[robayon]

I’m pro-choice but based on circumstance. I think having an abortion for the sake of your career, or having a late-term one, is sick. Should it be illegal? Well yea very late-term ones I do think should be. Before a certain time I’m more pro-choiceAmazing

[Ooloo]

Ooloo does the righty thing where he deliberately misses the larger point and then argues against a detail in a vain effort to steer the conversation away from his glaring hypocrisy.

While I do condemn Israeli and their apartheid policies, and support freedom for Palestinians, I've never been there and will never go there. That was your highly selective example, not mine.

But I criticize America, thoroughly, and American status quo "morals" being meaningless

American policies create a lot of dead babies for a lot of bad reasons, whether it's bombs or commerce or soldiers or school shooters

So, yeah, you don't actually care about dead babies or you'd be explicity critical of the US military and US foreign policy, as well as standard business practices of American companies. You just want the "correct" babies to die because that preserves your personal place near the top of the hierarchy.

Hey Rob, just yes or no do you think it's bad when palestinians specifically target jewish children in israel for murder? "Larger picture" and all aside, are you just willing to say that's horribly wrong to do?

Because to me, it's a lot worse than killing kids by accident. I mean, am I crazy? How is that not worse? Please explain in like... two sentences.

You aren't even advocating "eye for an eye" here, you're advocating "hey you did bad thing, therefor I will do wayyyyyyyy worse thing in retaliation". That is morally retarded.

[Bardp1999]

Why am I the only one freaking out that we have a Ministry of Truth and a Board of Misinformation

[Reiwa]

Ooloo does the righty thing where he deliberately misses the larger point and then argues against a detail in a vain effort to steer the conversation away from his glaring hypocrisy.

While I do condemn Israeli and their apartheid policies, and support freedom for Palestinians, I've never been there and will never go there. That was your highly selective example, not mine.

But I criticize America, thoroughly, and American status quo "morals" being meaningless

American policies create a lot of dead babies for a lot of bad reasons, whether it's bombs or commerce or soldiers or school shooters

So, yeah, you don't actually care about dead babies or you'd be explicity critical of the US military and US foreign policy, as well as standard business practices of American companies. You just want the "correct" babies to die because that preserves your personal place near the top of the hierarchy.

Ladies and germs, the 5th column. :rolleyes:

[Kaveh]

Why am I the only one freaking out that we have a Ministry of Truth and a Board of Misinformation

It’s pretty bad dude. Sending more money to PBS and NPR would’ve accomplished the same thing and been way less of an act of political suicide. Par for the course for democrats, fucking idiots the lot of them

I like how the board focuses on “irregular migration” (whatever the fuck that means) and Russia. Like that won’t backfire…

[robayon]

Hey Rob, just yes or no do you think it's bad when palestinians specifically target jewish children in israel for murder? "Larger picture" and all aside, are you just willing to say that's horribly wrong to do?

Because to me, it's a lot worse than killing kids by accident. I mean, am I crazy? How is that not worse? Please explain in like... two sentences.

You aren't even advocating "eye for an eye" here, you're advocating "hey you did bad thing, therefor I will do wayyyyyyyy worse thing in retaliation". That is morally retarded.Yes, that is obviously worse than killing kids by accident.

I do not believe for a second that every child killed in war or due to US policy is by accident. Some by accident? Sure.

I think most of them are dead by callous indifference, not even necessarily malice. Yemen, for example. Laos, during the Vietnam war, not to mention all of the Vietnamese women and children who got slaughtered. Indonesia, all kinds of Latin American countries... the list just goes on and on.

All of that being true and factual is what makes the modern right whining about abortions profoundly meaningless. The death machine just keeps killing but all of those deaths are okay because they happen to the correct people.

The modern right does not care about dead babies, they care about preserving the hierarchy, whatever that takes.

[robayon]

Ladies and germs, the 5th column. :rolleyes:The difference between me and them is that I know I am powerless

Because, like Trexller, I understand the difference between words and bullets

[Ooloo]

Why am I the only one freaking out that we have a Ministry of Truth and a Board of Misinformation

I am too but one thing at a time

[unsunghero]

I mean the idea that all abortions are saving a child from suffering needlessly is a bit hyperbolic

What they all do is deny a living thing’s ability to exist

Yea the foster system isn’t great, but it’s not like if you say “nope nope nope” right out the door of the hospital after the birth that the hospital is going throw the baby in the dumpster out back. You’ll get a neglect charge, but you can give up your kid at any time and get that. A neglect charge NOR the foster system isn’t the end of the world, not like an abortion literally is the end of the world for that organism

[starkind]

Why am I the only one freaking out that we have a Ministry of Truth and a Board of Misinformation

It's not that big of a deal. It just finally got a name and public front.

MOT
BOM

are really dumb acronyms hopefully they can find more hip names

[Jibartik]

Is this shit real or made up?

https://www.nationalreview.com/2022/04/bidens-ministry-of-truth/

What in the actual fuck, a "ministry of truth" and "misinformation board"... ????

Is this North Korea, what the fuck is happening? When are the "reeducation" camps coming?

there's no way this can actually happen, but maybe if they get us embroiled into a world war they ca use that excuse? God damn dude these guys have no limits!

[Ooloo]

Yes, that is obviously worse than killing kids by accident.


Thank you! Moment of clarity. Then the rest of what you posted was more mealy-mouthed beating around the bush.

Killing babies is wrong. Doesn't matter how many times you do the george carlin routine where you bring up all the other horribly tragic events in life that you claim republicans "don't care about". Those are obviously tragic. Taking the anti-natalist, nihilistic path of murdering a baby before it even has a chance to suffer is sickness on another level.

[Jibartik]

The modern right does not care about dead babies, they care about preserving the hierarchy, whatever that takes.

no the modern right is being whittled down to a smaller and smaller number, as cunt after cunt jumps ship to join the democrat party, and soon all we'll be left with just 144,000 of us.

[robayon]

Thank you! Moment of clarity. Then the rest of what you posted was more mealy-mouthed beating around the bush.

Killing babies is wrong. Doesn't matter how many times you do the george carlin routine where you bring up all the other horribly tragic events in life that you claim republicans "don't care about". Those are obviously tragic. Taking the anti-natalist, nihilistic path of murdering a baby before it even has a chance to suffer is sickness on another level.The United States government kills a million people in Laos who had the unfortunate luck of being in Laos where a supply road was: "tragic", but supporting it and excusing it supports the hierarchy

A million women get abortions for about a million different reasons: "moral outrage", but condemning it supports the hierarchy

Sorry, I don't think I can take lessons in values from such a moral relativist

[unsunghero]

Killing babies is wrong

I see them as future babies rather than babies, but it’s sorta similar to the twisted cases of the crazy parent that’s like “the world is cruel and unfair, I’m gonna kill myself and I am going to save my kids from having to endure this cruel, evil world” and then goes and kills their kids

It’s like…hey man…you want to maybe check with the kids first? They might not feel the same way?

Once again, I’m not saying these are the same thing tho. I was just reminded of it because I been watching a lot of crime channels and hear stories like this

[robayon]

no the modern right is being whittled down to a smaller and smaller number, as cunt after cunt jumps ship to join the democrat party, and soon all we'll be left with just 144,000 of us.this is good news to me, the democrats are generally easier to outwit, as we've seen repeatedly

but those that remain, well, if they end up in heaven i think i'd prefer hell

[starkind]

Well you all know my political stance and I don't even have to really say a thing. I think that's great and amazing. All like 24 of u. + or - some extra personalities.

[starkind]

I see them as future babies rather than babies, but it’s sorta similar to the twisted cases of the crazy parent that’s like “the world is cruel and unfair, I’m gonna kill myself and I am going to save my kids from having to endure this cruel, evil world” and then goes and kills their kids

It’s like…hey man…you want to maybe check with the kids first? They might not feel the same way?

Once again, I’m not saying these are the same thing tho. I was just reminded of it because I been watching a lot of crime channels and hear stories like this

Kids aren't really born self aware and it takes them a bit to form consent.

It's also pretty silly the same ppl talking about abortion violating concent might beat or disown their child on religious grounds or beliefs. Or affiliations. So. Uhm.

Humans are damn dirty apes.

Very few are honest. And absolutely consistent in how they apply these own beliefs.

The problem is getting the government involved. Which both sides absolutely are doing and have been. For all of our lives. One way or another.

[Rethalis]

Getting Twitter banned from the E.U. sounds like a good way to recoup a 44 billion dollar investment. Are conservative idiots really this gullible?

Elon specifically said it wasn't entirely an economic decision. I'm merely pointing out the fact the biden administration added more useless bureaucracy dedicated to the dissemination of news shortly after elon bought twitter.

They brought obama out same day it was announced. you know so he could blather on about "common sense hate speech control"

If elon has the government riled up about social media and information he is doing something right.

[Botten]

Hey Ooloo, got to push the need for those poor redneck white babies. Your party’s uneducated bread and butter. Right!

And hell if the single mother and child after birth can’t eat, Republicans certainly don’t care about a child after they are born. F welfare is there chant while most of them suck off the teat of social security.

And if the child is the result of incest or rape or underage they champion that miserable emotional train wreck of a family. But don’t use their tax dollars to fix that.

If the child is born mentally challenged that is a plus for the party too. Less questions of their family’s undying support for their brainwashed party.

The GOP way is yell over them during debate like good old Ben S

[Rethalis]

No one who supports the blanket abortion bans answered this. How can you compel a child to suffer? And yes, it happens. Why is it your decision and not that of the parents ?

We put livestock down because they suffer not people. Comparing live stock and humans is a very scary place. The murder of a child, one that is an individual, with its own mind and ideas is gone forever. No one will ever replace that child again, that child will never be conceived again.

Everybody suffers, that is part of life. Not a good reason for murder.

[starkind]

We put livestock down because they suffer not people. Comparing live stock and humans is a very scary place. The murder of a child, one that is an individual, with its own mind and ideas is gone forever. No one will ever replace that child again, that child will never be conceived again.

Everybody suffers, that is part of life. Not a good reason for murder.

People who say dumb shit like this never had to govern for themselves and that is a huge fucking problem in this country.

[Rethalis]

People who say dumb shit like this never had to govern for themselves and that is a huge fucking problem in this country.

Call it whatever you want. There is no good argument for abortion.

[Ooloo]

It's controversial to murder babies itt.

I didn't even specify like a trimester, I *do* agree that killing a 1 second old zygote or whatever is not the same as murdering a toddler, morally. But I really don't give it much legroom beyond that.

Meanwhile, you guys keep trying to compare like... 2nd and 3rd trimester abortion to kids who are *accidentally* killed in war. I obviously agree that kids killed on purpose in war is a war crime, which is why I oppose palestinian terrorists and 2nd and 3rd trimester abortions, and most 1st trimester depending on the circumstances.

[Kaveh]

We put livestock down because they suffer not people. Comparing live stock and humans is a very scary place. The murder of a child, one that is an individual, with its own mind and ideas is gone forever. No one will ever replace that child again, that child will never be conceived again.

Everybody suffers, that is part of life. Not a good reason for murder.

Putting a human down? Do you know what an incurable disease is? We intervene to the tune of millions of dollars with hypoplastic left heart syndrome, to the tune of much suffering and a very poor prognosis. If the parents want that, sure, but big government compulsory moral edicts are bad regardless of party

No comparison to livestock was made

[Kaveh]

It's controversial to murder babies itt.

I didn't even specify like a trimester, I *do* agree that killing a 1 second old zygote or whatever is not the same as murdering a toddler, morally. But I really don't give it much legroom beyond that.

Meanwhile, you guys keep trying to compare like... 2nd and 3rd trimester abortion to kids who are *accidentally* killed in war. I obviously agree that kids killed on purpose in war is a war crime, which is why I oppose palestinian terrorists and 2nd and 3rd trimester abortions, and most 1st trimester depending on the circumstances.

No dickhead, murder is murder. I have a living will that says pull the plug if I’m intubated for two weeks

We have different perspectives, doesn’t mean I support murder. You argue in bad faith. What’s new

[Rethalis]

Putting a human down? Do you know what an incurable disease is? We intervene to the tune of millions of dollars with hypoplastic left heart syndrome, to the tune of much suffering and a very poor prognosis. If the parents want that, sure, but big government compulsory moral edicts are bad regardless of party

No comparison to livestock was made

That is made at the patient's request. A child doesn't have the privilege of making that decision for themselves.

[starkind]

Call it whatever you want. There is no good argument for abortion.

There's no good argument for murder yet we do it all the time. People got ropes and guillotines and are screaming for revolution and burning police stations and killing ppl left and right. They loading up on guns and ammos. To commit murder.

There is a good reason for euthanasia. It's capital punishment.

Terminally ill babies don't get cared for Terminally ill People don't get cared for. Ya'll aren't able to make this call when you don't let people kill in self defense.

You're right tho. Ain't right to do murder. Yet we do it all the time.

Every corporation and liar is a muderer. Every damn person who has any connections to fraud or poisoning or making unhealthy food or war. All of you are murderers. You use a pesticides? Fucking murderer. You bought quinoa? Murdered some bolivian.

Every damn person that lets wall street set the price of food or dictate laws. Or run rough shod over small businesses. Or scam people with insurance.

Every damn one of you is a satanic murderer and liar.

I'm definitely a murderer. I've contributed to countless deaths and abuses. I was in the fuckin army. Definitely a fuckin murderer.

Don't talk to me about murder.

Let people decide who gets murdered.

Not the fuckin government. At least some of you may survive not murdering ppl then.

Every time you vote to control another person. You're murdering.

You want to do something about abortion? Find ways to help parents raise their fuckin children. Raise money. Teach classes. Let people farm on your land. Give them an opportunity to choose something other than abortion.

How many billions of dollars have we wasted trying to outlaw shit and fight in courts for over 100 years. It's bullshit man. Raise some fuckin children instead.

Give them a chance to grow up not murderers or liars for fucking once. In peace. Without being fucking exploited. Able to defend themselves and act with fucking integrity.

God damn it.

[Kaveh]

That is made at the patient's request. A child doesn't have the privilege of making that decision for themselves.

A mother has every right to make a decision. She will be raising a child in the hospital for years

I support your view if you adopt every child with an incurable illness, sit with them during every hospital stay, and pay their medical bills. Otherwise I’m going to say you support big government with this one

[Kaveh]

Of note: a fetus doesn’t have the capacity to make a medical decision. I believe giving those rights to the mother makes more sense than giving them to the body politic, where it isn’t clear a majority supports total bans on abortion

[Ooloo]

I support your view if you adopt every child with an incurable illness, sit with them during every hospital stay, and pay their medical bills. Otherwise I’m going to say you support big government with this one

Hahaha, sure ya do. Again passing the moral buck to the baby for having the audacity to exist.

I also support your views on immigration if you are willing to personally accept illegal immigrants into your house. Otherwise I guess you don't care about kids dying!

Again, the vast vast vast majority of abortions are not the result of rape, terminal diseases or anything else.

[Jibartik]

Even the nazi's gave up on eugenics, can we finally give it a rest over here?

[Rethalis]

A mother has every right to make a decision. She will be raising a child in the hospital for years

I support your view if you adopt every child with an incurable illness, sit with them during every hospital stay, and pay their medical bills. Otherwise I’m going to say you support big government with this one

I don't to have adopt any kid. Murding a child because it will cause the parents an inconvenience? That is the ultimate of satanist thinking masquerading as compassion.

[starkind]

I don't to have adopt any kid. Murding a child because it will cause the parents an inconvenience? That is the ultimate of satanist thinking masquerading as compassion.

You're not inconvenienced by having no government decided medical decisions.

Would you tell a family to die or kill a monster child? You're fucking naive if you can't tell a person is a psychopath.

Your choice. 1 baby or kid dies. Or a family of 10 on the brink.

You'll never lift a finger tho to care for any of them or lock up the monster in a safe and nice place so go fuck yourself.

That's why you're one of those dirtbags who can't govern for themselves. And shouldn't be governing anyone else.

No vote for u.

[Ooloo]

The left: "think about those starving kids in africa!"
Also the left: "wouldn't it be better if they just didn't exist there are too many people the world is overpopulated, except for me of course, but I'm totally a good guy"

[Rethalis]

You're not inconvenienced by having no government decided medical decisions.

The Justifcation for murdering a child because the child will cost money is not justification for murder. Where do we draw the dollar amount where its ok to murder and not ok?

[starkind]

The Justifcation for murdering a child because the child will cost money is not justification for murder. Where do we draw the dollar amount where its ok to murder and not ok?

We fix this by not raping poor people. And not having dumb ass wasteful laws.

People will not murder children then.

[Jibartik]

The left: "think about those starving kids in africa!"
Also the left: "wouldn't it be better if they just didn't exist there are too many people the world is overpopulated, except for me of course, but I'm totally a good guy"

lol good point

but at best they have the canned reddit answer

"nobody wants to euthanise all the pitbulls, we just want to stop breeding them by making it illegal, the pitbulls that are alive today can live long and healthy lives, but we just cant have anymore"

and youll be like, hmm that's a good point Obama 2, I am too poor to have children, and my bloodline should end here OK that sounds good!

[starkind]

lol good point

but at best they have the canned reddit answer

"nobody wants to euthanise all the pitbulls, we just want to stop breeding them by making it illegal, the pitbulls that are alive today can live long and healthy lives, but we just cant have anymore"

and youll be like, hmm that's a good point Obama 2, I am too poor to have children, and my bloodline should end here OK that sounds good!

You just want the end times.

[starkind]

No one wants to take responsibility for the murdering they are doing. What does the Bible say to do with a murderer.

[starkind]

We fix this by not raping poor people. And not having dumb ass wasteful laws.

People will not murder children then.

And if they do murder than they go to G-d with that murder. Just like EVERY SINGLE ONE OF YOU IS GOING TO GO.

See you all in hell.

[starkind]

A murderer must be put to death, as it says "He shall be avenged" (Exodus 21:20, see Leviticus 24:17,21); it is forbidden to accept compensation from him instead, as it says "You shall not take redemption for the life of a murderer...; and there shall be no atonement for the blood that was spilled...

99% of you over the age of consent are fair game.

Shall be put to death.

Murderers.

[starkind]

Drop the nukes.

[starkind]

(Butt I didn't pull the trigger or poison them myself isn't an excuse")

Nor is "I don't want to murder anyone "

Or denying it saying you didn't.

Did you pay taxes? You fucking murdered INNOCENT CHILDREN.

[starkind]

[snip snip]

G-d bless

[B4 u deleted]

🤗

[Jibartik]

You just want the end times.

this is true :o

[starkind]

this is true :o

Don't be embarrassed. It's not wrong to want to see biblical prophecy fulfilled or be blessed to live to see it fulfilled.

[Horza]

The Justifcation for murdering a child because the child will cost money is not justification for murder. Where do we draw the dollar amount where its ok to murder and not ok?

I don't know about you, but I draw the line at state governments issuing ten thousand dollar bounties on women to appease bible thumpers.

[Rethalis]

I don't know about you, but I draw the line at state governments issuing ten thousand dollar bounties on *murder clinics* to appease bible thumpers.

FIFY

[Horza]

Murder clinics, baby factories, whatever you choose to call those people who refused to vote for Trump.

[Rethalis]

Murder clinics, baby factories, whatever you choose to call those people who refused to vote for Trump.

do you have some January 6th lying around to justify abortion?

[unsunghero]

Kids aren't really born self aware and it takes them a bit to form consent.

It's also pretty silly the same ppl talking about abortion violating concent might beat or disown their child on religious grounds or beliefs. Or affiliations. So. Uhm.

Humans are damn dirty apes.

Very few are honest. And absolutely consistent in how they apply these own beliefs.

The problem is getting the government involved. Which both sides absolutely are doing and have been. For all of our lives. One way or another.

I agree, and also there are even hypocrite republicans who say they are anti-abortion but have forced a wife or gf to get an abortion

I can only speak for myself and try to lead by example. I practice safe sex always unless I know my partner is on birth control and std free, and if the condom breaks or an accident happens I have the means to support a child

If I couldn’t support the child, or maybe my partner thought I couldn’t, and I thought that a condom break would result in a child that my partner would abort, I wouldn’t have sex with that person

It simple, but in our hedonistic pleasure above all culture, it’s not easy. Simple but not easy

Same goes for loving your kid no matter what. Although it is a misconception to think that a parent that doesn’t want their kid has to beat them to get rid of them. A parent can call CPS at any time and say come take their kid from them for good. They will get a felony neglect charge, but it’s still better than beating the child. Hopefully a foster parent will do better

[starkind]

I wish we had excellent academies to empower the unwanted children. And neglectful parents should be indentured. Or imprisoned.

Neglecting a child's welfare and rape are capital crimes to me.

[unsunghero]

Speaking of complete hypocrisy, the same Democrats that will chastise me for not caring about the future impact of climate change, and how we must be ever-conscious of how our actions affects this world in the future…

…will be sometimes the same Democrats who will say “oh shit I got sooo sloppy drunk at the club the other night and had unprotected sex. I have no money and am just not ready for a kid at this point in my life. You need to respect my right to an abortion”

My response would be: I understand there is a level of intoxication where we are no longer making good decisions and in control, so I don’t fault you as much for what happens after that point is reached. I do fault you for knowingly letting yourself get to that point. You could have gotten behind the wheel of a car and killed someone, which is something you would have to live with the rest of your life. In this case you happened to make a kid, which is now something you should have to deal with. And if you are going to abort the kid because of your lack of regard for the future, then maybe dont fucking lecture me about climate change in the next breath???

Note: obviously this is just a small % of abortions but certainly a higher one than things like rape or incest

[starkind]

Speaking of complete hypocrisy, the same Democrats that will chastise me for not caring about the future impact of climate change, and how we must be ever-conscious of how our actions affects this world in the future…

…will be sometimes the same Democrats who will say “oh shit I got sooo sloppy drunk at the club the other night and had unprotected sex. I have no money and am just not ready for a kid at this point in my life. You need to respect my right to an abortion”

My response would be: I understand there is a level of intoxication where we are no longer making good decisions and in control, so I don’t fault you as much for what happens after that point is reached. I do fault you for knowingly letting yourself get to that point. You could have gotten behind the wheel of a car and killed someone, which is something you would have to live with the rest of your life. In this case you happened to make a kid, which is now something you should have to deal with. And if you are going to abort the kid because of your lack of regard for the future, then maybe dont fucking lecture me about climate change in the next breath???

Note: obviously this is just a small % of abortions but certainly a higher one than things like rape or incest

Yeah man.

Digging deep into health foods that libs love so much. A lot of dark side energy.

It's got me down.

I don't feel like I belong anywhere. I'm just trying my best.

Libe infuriate me. Probably more often than others.

Like I get the abortion is murder thing. At least at its core.

What I don't get is gleefully supporting megacorp politicians while decrying how everyone is homeless and oppressed. And poor. And chugging plastic food. And accrueing massive debt It's weird af.

I hope Elon Musk is our first one world prez in Astana, I mean Nur Sultan. /s

[Reiwa]

Hey retards, abortion in the US exists under the right to privacy created in Roe(descending from Griswold) and affirmed in Casey.

We'll lose a shitton of rights if we throw all those out.

Hope this helps!

[Kaveh]

I don't to have adopt any kid. Murding a child because it will cause the parents an inconvenience? That is the ultimate of satanist thinking masquerading as compassion.

What if it’s a third child and causes the other two to be penniless and without parents in the home?

You’re making a blanket policy that could be bad in all sorts of situations. This is big government based on your interpretation of the Bible. A). Enacting biblical morality is unconstitutional. B). Big government intrusion

Not conservative, not murder no matter how many times you say it is. At 40 weeks if the woman is a dumb ass, maybe murder. At 20 weeks after genetic testing shows you you will be bankrupt, your kid will suffer, and your other children will as well because the demand it places on you as a parent to raise the third, not murder. It’s also none of your business or anyone else’s. You think Madison cawthorn cares about abortion? You’re being played dude, I’m more of a Christian than 90% of republicans in congress. I can tell you gun to my head I believe in God. I doubt that’s most republicans in office. Why can’t you see how utterly intrusive and bad this is to ban ALL abortions at 6 weeks? It is taliban level stupidity

As for Ooloo, I’ve always been against open borders. Not sure where that dumb shit is coming from. Not arguing in good faith, like I said

[Reiwa]

https://i.imgur.com/2MnX7Lp.jpg

[starkind]

Marge is going to punch a big fat homer eyeball.

[unsunghero]

At 20 weeks after genetic testing shows you you will be bankrupt, your kid will suffer, and your other children will as well because the demand it places on you as a parent to raise the third, not murder. It’s also none of your business or anyone else’s

I agree that I don’t see it the same as murder

I’ve said it before here that a human being is the smartest life on earth, in addition to being a collection of 40 trillion cells. It is also a once in a 10 billion year phenomenon on the one planet we know about in existence that can support life. Your parents can have another kid, but there can never be another you

That makes every human sort of like a miracle. If the kid and parent will suffer, the parent can always give the kid up. The earlier they do so, the more likely the child is to be adopted or fostered

I personally pause rarely and offer humility to God or whatever created existence, that I was given a chance to exist and not aborted

But that’s my .02

[Reiwa]

I’ve said it before here that a human being is the smartest life on earth, in addition to being a collection of 40 trillion cells.

How many trillion cells is a butthole shrimp? Apply scrutiny for scale.

[unsunghero]

How many trillion cells is a butthole shrimp? Apply scrutiny for scale.

It’s about what it becomes, you snuffed that amazing thing out of existence. And it was programmed to develop. It doesn’t have the capacity to “want” yet but between developing or dying it is programmed to go one direction, barring some horrible genetic flaw

[Reiwa]

It’s about what it becomes, you snuffed that amazing thing out of existence. And it was programmed to develop. It doesn’t have the capacity to “want” yet but between developing or dying it is programmed to go one direction, barring some horrible genetic flaw

That's not a number. Answer with a number.

[unsunghero]

When we consider a death, the emotional reaction to it is based somewhat on the loss of potential, right?

For example, we tend to feel much more sad for 2 year old dying than a 96 year old. The 2year old has a brain that feels, but none of us can remember when we were two. But most importantly their entire life was stolen from them by death

The 96 year old had their time, and so we don’t feel as bad. There isn’t such a loss of potential life experiences

I dunno, it just seems weird that our emotional empathy grows backwards from 99 but shrinks quite a bit at x weeks old in utero or w/e. It’s still there, but greatly lessened for most

[Reiwa]

When we consider a death, the emotional reaction to it is based somewhat on the loss of potential, right?

For example, we tend to feel much more sad for 2 year old dying than a 96 year old. The 2year old has a brain that feels, but none of us can remember when we were two. But most importantly their entire life was stolen from them by death

The 96 year old had their time, and so we don’t feel as bad. There isn’t such a loss of potential life experiences

I dunno, it just seems weird that our emotional empathy grows backwards from 99 but shrinks quite a bit at x weeks old in utero or w/e. It’s still there, but greatly lessened for most

Okay there's numbers in there but not the number I asked you for. :mad:

[unsunghero]

Okay there's numbers in there but not the number I asked you for. :mad:

Maybe instead I’ll just answer with a question and an emoticon and pretend it’s a gotcha? ;)

If you’re too dumb to understand the point and want to pretend that splitting hairs is some kind of a win, go right ahead

I still feel the same way. 40 trillion cell potential

[Reiwa]

Maybe instead I’ll just answer with a question and an emoticon and pretend it’s a gotcha? ;)

If you’re too dumb to understand the point and want to pretend that splitting hairs is some kind of a win, go right ahead

I still feel the same way. 40 trillion cell potential

How is it a gotcha if you're responding to, but not answering, the question I asked you?

Fuck you.

[unsunghero]

How is it a gotcha if you're responding to, but not answering, the question I asked you?

Fuck you.

Sorry for calling you dumb, that’s not true. But your arguing style is frustrating

If we’re going to split hairs, let’s mention how a tumor wants to develop too, a fetus is really just a primordial gloop of cells, it’s sort of behaves like a parasite, and sometimes it kills the host and itself coming out

Doesn’t sound so majestic now

[Reiwa]

Sorry for calling you dumb, that’s not true. But your arguing style is frustrating

If we’re going to split hairs, let’s mention how a tumor wants to develop too, a fetus is really just a primordial gloop of cells, it’s sort of behaves like a parasite, and sometimes it kills the host and itself coming out

Doesn’t sound so majestic now

Ok squash it

[unsunghero]

Ok squash it

No, let it live IMO ;)

[Reiwa]

No, let it live IMO ;)

Maybe later. Someone else has to quarrel now. 😴

[unsunghero]

Maybe later. Someone else has to quarrel now. ��

Missed my fetus joke. Bollucks

“Squash it”

No let it live

[Rethalis]

What if it’s a third child and causes the other two to be penniless and without parents in the home?

You’re making a blanket policy that could be bad in all sorts of situations. This is big government based on your interpretation of the Bible. A). Enacting biblical morality is unconstitutional. B). Big government intrusion

Not conservative, not murder no matter how many times you say it is. At 40 weeks if the woman is a dumb ass, maybe murder. At 20 weeks after genetic testing shows you you will be bankrupt, your kid will suffer, and your other children will as well because the demand it places on you as a parent to raise the third, not murder. It’s also none of your business or anyone else’s. You think Madison cawthorn cares about abortion? You’re being played dude, I’m more of a Christian than 90% of republicans in congress. I can tell you gun to my head I believe in God. I doubt that’s most republicans in office. Why can’t you see how utterly intrusive and bad this is to ban ALL abortions at 6 weeks? It is taliban level stupidity

As for Ooloo, I’ve always been against open borders. Not sure where that dumb shit is coming from. Not arguing in good faith, like I said

Didn't cite the bible.

That's a strange way to define murder. It's still a human being. It's a human being at the point of conception. All the human DNA is there. Is it really logical that a few inches of flesh determines who is afforded rights as a human being?

Adoption is an option.

[Gustoo]

You can legally abort babies in several states literally up till the second before they are birthed.

At the very least we should be able to agree universally that outside of dire circumstances 8 month old babies are not allowed to be dashed against the planned parenthood linoleum floor just because bill gates or whoever stem cell psychopath is eager to harvest that motherload of life from the baby.

The fact that the abortionists i see on line are all or nothing with us or against us people that would tell me that the above statement puts me in the against us camp is concerning.

Its also important to realize that most of the super inflamatory stuff you see on the internet is just to get you all divided up and angry and untrusting of your neighbor.

Most of your physical neighbors are probably quite close in opinion to you. Cant base your ideas on what you see at rallys, on the internet.

Anyone who doesnt see the way a human being develops as mind bogglingly insane is simply ignorant of the complexities. Every 10 fingered 10 toed lungs and heart and guts and brains on the inside baby that is born is almost by definition a miracle and somehow it happens all the time.

And people feel the need to seek out signs and wonders.

[Gustoo]

My post was not in response to anyone in particular.

Fact is that most people are objectively better off dead. Thats not a good argument for killing them, regardless of age.

Outside of the late 3rd trimester stuff I dont have a strong opinion on this because a LAW isnt going to force people to be good, whatever we decide good is. We can create a culture that would never harm a baby and actually support parents, too.

But weve got a system of parent torture that forces them to hand their kids over to the state at earliest convenience or go crazy, so yikes.

[starkind]

I think politicians who haven't lived through child abuse and neglect and are not female should sit the fuck down about abortion.

[Reiwa]

@person

Stay gone, live well, get revenge. :)

[robayon]

@person

Stay gone, live well, get revenge. :)oh that thread disappeared, someone get axed?

[MrSparkle001]

oh that thread disappeared, someone get axed?

Oh yes. You weren't here to see what was being posted this morning. Be glad for that.

[Reiwa]

Oh yes. You weren't here to see what was being posted this morning. Be glad for that.

Oh lol was it weeneers again? Classic J.

[starkind]

tbf u probably seen that gif b4

[Jibartik]

Once c goes in the v the only way to stop the b is to destroy it.

[Jibartik]

Oh yes. You weren't here to see what was being posted this morning. Be glad for that.

I missed it and I love train wrecks describe plzzzzz

[MrSparkle001]

I missed it and I love train wrecks describe plzzzzz

https://i.imgur.com/rafUBLR.gif

[starkind]

https://i.imgur.com/rafUBLR.gif

At least that post is way more ethnically diverse.

[Homesteaded]

Ministry of Truth established by the Biden admin. Head of this crew is a lady who thinks the laptop was a hoax. Libs, is this good?

[Reiwa]

If you give a mouse a cookie (https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/disney-calls-desantis-bluff-says-state-must-pay-off-dollar1-billion-debt/ar-AAWI51c?li=BBnbfcL)

Disney's Reedy Creek Improvement District (RCID) recently said that Florida can't terminate the district unless the state pays off Reedy Creek's $1 billion debt, fulfilling the state's pledge to bondholders per a 1967 act.

[robayon]

If you give a mouse a cookie (https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/disney-calls-desantis-bluff-says-state-must-pay-off-dollar1-billion-debt/ar-AAWI51c?li=BBnbfcL)its too late, ron already got the points on the scoreboard in their minds

he's just a hedge for their bets that donald trump won't choke to death on a hamburger between now and 2024 anyways

[Jibartik]

The funniest thing about 2020 to me is how all the hippies are discrediting all the ideas they wanted for the last 20 years.

Like NPR has been staunchly anti disney for decades, multiple times have I heard think pieces about how they disrupt the environment of FLA and take advantage of the tax payers with their exemption stattuses..

But all the while all the mommies and daddies of the world would wag their fingers and be like, you dont understand economics, doing what you ask would be impossible, it would cost more money than it would save, bla bla bla.

But the NPRs and Hippies would be like, No dad, YOURE a boomer and YOURE wrong!

And here we are, with he parties flipped, and now NPR is reciting all the shit they were told when they wanted to kick disney out of fla to the GOP.

https://www.npr.org/2022/04/28/1095225258/disney-world-florida-debt

[Horza]

If you give a mouse a cookie (https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/disney-calls-desantis-bluff-says-state-must-pay-off-dollar1-billion-debt/ar-AAWI51c?li=BBnbfcL)

DeSantis doesn't actually care about Disney, he's just doing his best to rile up his base of inbred morons for the midterms.

[Skarne]

DeSantis doesn't actually care about Disney, he's just doing his best to rile up his base of inbred morons for the midterms.

[Jibartik]

hmm left is mad at elon but defending disney.

Like funny how this stuff feels like sports.

[robayon]

hmm left is mad at elon but defending disney.

Like funny how this stuff feels like sports.just because i attack ron desantis does not make me a disney fan. you know better.

both can be evil, it's still just state-sanctioned hypocrisy, as usual, from the conservatives

i mean, i've seen all the marvel stuff, same as most folks, but you can bet disney didn't make a dime off me. i, uh, saw them all at a friend's house. yeah.

[Raj]

Oh yes. You weren't here to see what was being posted this morning. Be glad for that.

Oh lol was it weeneers again? Classic J.

I missed it and I love train wrecks describe plzzzzz

Lol! Dang I missed the trainwreck and cray stuff being posted too. :mad:

Would have loved to hear my uncle's appraisal of the train crash :cool:

[Jibartik]

I as talking about NPR because that whole article was copied and pasted from one that fox wrote about them 20 years ago.

[robayon]

My wife and I are church shopping since we moved recently and we're like 50+ miles from our old church now. One of the places we're gonna try is headed up by a semi-famous pastor who was a "spiritual advisor" to Trump. Apparently one of many.

Sometimes I even troll myself

[Elizondo]

DeSantis doesn't actually care about Disney, he's just doing his best to rile up his base of inbred morons for the midterms.

Groomer be triggered

[Reiwa]

My wife and I are church shopping since we moved recently and we're like 50+ miles from our old church now. One of the places we're gonna try is headed up by a semi-famous pastor who was a "spiritual advisor" to Trump. Apparently one of many.

Sometimes I even troll myself

What the hell is church shopping? Go to the one that matches your priors.

[robayon]

What the hell is church shopping? Go to the one that matches your priors.Trying new local ones out until we find one that isn't drowning in hatred. It isn't easy in the south. This is a conservative stronghold, especially the semi-rural county we now live in.

When I lived in Denver you'd see churches that fly rainbow flags, that's usually a good indicator. You only see that in downtown Atlanta here, and the affluent suburbs, most of the time.

There's no Unitarian place nearby, or we'd try that. So we'll see how the local Methodists stack up, I guess. They can be reasonable. Without those flags as indicators you either gotta find inclusive language on their website or the banner gizmo out front, which isn't as straightforward as it might sound.

Besides, in real life I'm very social. I like meeting new people. My wife is skittish, like a cat. But she also wants a new church.

[Reiwa]

When I lived in Denver you'd see churches that fly rainbow flags, that's usually a good indicator.

https://i.imgur.com/8KTtscB.png

[Shourty]

I saw this on twitter and wanted to twist some panties.

[Jibartik]

Roby at church in 2024

CP3YHKghs_4

[Horza]

https://i.imgur.com/8KTtscB.png

There are plenty of Christians who aren't paste eating Trumptards like the previous two posters, but they aren't always easy to find.

[Elizondo]

There are plenty of Christians who aren't paste eating Trumptards like the previous two posters, but they aren't always easy to find.

Do you read your posts before hitting submit?

[Jibartik]

lol

[Horza]

They're like a needle in a haystack that's made up almost entirely of you illiterate morons is my point.

[Jibartik]

Stop trying to get into heaven after trying to drive me to suicide, we all know you think every religious person is a paste eating monster that should do what you told me to do multiple times.

[Raj]

I hear a sound of victory :cool:

Angels are being dispatched right now!

[Horza]

Stop trying to get into heaven after trying to drive me to suicide, we all know you think every religious person is a paste eating monster that should do what you told me to do multiple times.

lol go tell it to a priest or someone else who will pretend to care.

[Gravydoo II]

Stop trying to get into heaven after trying to drive me to suicide, we all know you think every religious person is a paste eating monster that should do what you told me to do multiple times.

kill yourself
quit life
stop dragging it out, its pointless.

Now cry.

[Gravydoo II]

How come people on the right are such pussies? Doxxing teachers for teaching racism actually happened in america. Doxxed by libs of tiktok.

How come you pussies dont pull up? You just harass people from a distance.. You guys hunt for their address, just to not pull up.. Pussies.

[Reiwa]

How come people on the right are such pussies? Doxxing teachers for teaching racism actually happened in america. Doxxed by libs of tiktok.

How come you pussies dont pull up? You just harass people from a distance.. You guys hunt for their address, just to not pull up.. Pussies.

What is pull up?

[Jibartik]

So you still gonna say the left hasnt gone extreme reiwa?

[Gravydoo II]

What is pull up?

Get in your car, drive there, pull up. Get out, go do your harassment in person. Show everyone how brave you are. How come right wingers dont do that?

Maybe Chaya will be buried next to ashley babbit as a martyr LOL

[robayon]

So you still gonna say the left hasnt gone extreme reiwa?Reiwa spoke for me the other day so today I am speaking for him

something something obscure reference to a battle four hundred years ago followed by an emoji

[Jibartik]

https://i.imgur.com/KCmFg3v.png

[robayon]

Roby at church in 2024

CP3YHKghs_4i can say that my constant quest to find a decent church that isn't spoiled by the blasphemy of muscular christianity has left one thing in the dust

the churches that aren't corrupted by capitalist brain rot usually have shitty music

i don't know why or how that works, but it's something i have noticed consistently over the years. the music always sucks compared to the good hymns and stuff i heard growing up, with real choirs and all that pageantry

still, though, i'll take bad music over kenneth copeland types

[robayon]

https://i.imgur.com/KCmFg3v.pngfinally, an elon tweet that is absolutely on the money!

[Reiwa]

Reiwa spoke for me the other day so today I am speaking for him

something something obscure reference to a battle four hundred years ago followed by an emoji

Is it violence and threats for political ends? 🤓

[Gravydoo II]

What happens after trump dies?

[Reiwa]

What happens after trump dies?

Probably purgatory. Doesn't seem like he's earned much temporal remission. 🗡️

[Jibartik]

Rises again and rules the world.

[Horza]

What happens after trump dies?

Mass suicides probably.

[unsunghero]

Mass suicides probably.

Legacy media losing millions in revenue with nothing to whine over

CNN and MSNBC going bankrupt instead of clinging on to almost bankrupt

[Ooloo]

It's so weird how news organizations fail when everyone can tell they are gigantic liars. It's just wacky how that works.

The absolute abysmal trainwreck of CNN+ was very cathartic to witness but it was also kind of a window into either how dumb they are, or how little they think of their audience.

Meanwhile conservative outlets, who ya know occasionally interview people who disagree with them, seem to do better.

I just don't know how to explain that... probably white supremacy somehow.

[Reiwa]

It's so weird how news organizations fail when everyone can tell they are gigantic liars. It's just wacky how that works.

The absolute abysmal trainwreck of CNN+ was very cathartic to witness but it was also kind of a window into either how dumb they are, or how little they think of their audience.

Meanwhile conservative outlets, who ya know occasionally interview people who disagree with them, seem to do better.

I just don't know how to explain that... probably white supremacy somehow.

Why queer a fair point with Nazi apologia? :rolleyes:

[robayon]

Meanwhile conservative outlets, who ya know occasionally interview people who disagree with them, seem to do better.

I just don't know how to explain that... probably white supremacy somehow.I do: billionaire and state funding

[Kaveh]

What happens after trump dies?

A person significantly worse takes up his mantle. I would never vote for trump again, but he had some virtues. The next one won’t

[starkind]

What if I told you it doesn't matter if Trump is alive or dead?

The results will likely be near identical.

[Gravydoo II]

It's so weird how news organizations fail when everyone can tell they are gigantic liars. It's just wacky how that works.

The absolute abysmal trainwreck of CNN+ was very cathartic to witness but it was also kind of a window into either how dumb they are, or how little they think of their audience.

Meanwhile conservative outlets, who ya know occasionally interview people who disagree with them, seem to do better.

I just don't know how to explain that... probably white supremacy somehow.

You mean like OAN?

https://thehill.com/homenews/media/589871-directv-declines-to-renew-one-america-news-networks-contract/

Bye bye OAN. What is CNN+? a website or something?

[Ooloo]

You mean like OAN?

https://thehill.com/homenews/media/589871-directv-declines-to-renew-one-america-news-networks-contract/

Bye bye OAN. What is CNN+? a website or something?

CNN+ was their brilliant *subscription service* that only like 70k people signed up for, after they invested like 30 million dollars in it lol. Literally had to shut it down like 3 weeks after launch.

Somebody thought "hey lets take this free 24\hr cable news channel that nobody watches and make them SUBSCRIBE to it!!"

[Elizondo]

CNN+ was their brilliant *subscription service* that only like 70k people signed up for, after they invested like 30 million dollars in it lol.

300 Million actually

[Reiwa]

CNN+ was their brilliant *subscription service* that only like 70k people signed up for, after they invested like 30 million dollars in it lol. Literally had to shut it down like 3 weeks after launch.

Somebody thought "hey lets take this free 24\hr cable news channel that nobody watches and make them SUBSCRIBE to it!!"

It wasn't even the TV channel. Bunch of dumb videos series instead. :mad:

[unsunghero]

Bill’s moderate enough to point out that nearly half of all government covid spending programs were stolen or fraudulently obtained

Buuuuuut not quite moderate enough to point out the program’s effect on inflation. Or enough to not attempt to downplay crime increases putting local stores out of business because other theft is a larger sum of money. What about crime increases that kills people? Deep in their camps

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=LhhoQbzupug

[Gravydoo II]

You mean like twitter? Elon plans on charging to embed tweets.

https://news.yahoo.com/elon-musk-twitter-tweet-embeds-charge-173354164.html

Good idea, right?

I dont give a crap about CNN+. That was a dumbass idea. I watch all news stuff online and seriously, ive never even seen an advertisement for it. D'oh. Looks like they fucked up. Went for the "lets start a tv channel that repeats all the stuff we say on youtube" lol.

FOX news did that too. That had a channel on Sky or some network over in Europe. The problem was, you cant call yourself a news channel if you lie about everything. So it didnt work out.

[Elizondo]

So funny watching groomers meltdown over Twitter and turn on it so quickly

[Gravydoo II]

So funny to watch Qanon rot someones brain. You dont even see the direct relationship between Qanon and your obsession with child molestation.

[Elizondo]

So funny to watch Qanon rot someones brain. You dont even see the direct relationship between Qanon and your obsession with child molestation.

Ok Groomer

[Gravydoo II]

You mad?? Qanon has got a grip on you now. Good luck being alone for the rest of your life. You gonna call your girlfriend a groomer if they calls you out for being a weirdo? That sounds like a good relationship. LOL

My dude, you're so alone. Its so funny.

[Reiwa]

What about crime increases that kills people?

Modest variations on small figures appear enormous. 🤓

[Elizondo]

You mad?? Qanon has got a grip on you now. Good luck being alone for the rest of your life. You gonna call your girlfriend a groomer if they calls you out for being a weirdo? That sounds like a good relationship. LOL

My dude, you're so alone. Its so funny.

Projection noted, Groomer

[Gravydoo II]

I'm 5 years into a relationship. You're not. Everyone knows you're not. You're an incel, EQnerd, qanon loser. You cant contribute to conversations, just make dumbass comments. This is the real you. Its not some act you put on. Maybe you're like this because you're alone or maybe you're alone because you're like this.

=]

[Gravydoo II]

Its probably bidens fault because you're such a nice guy.. The girls just cant see how nice you are because biden and obama something something jews something something groomer, qanon im alone.

[Elizondo]

I'm 5 years into a relationship.

With a real female?

Can't be too sure with you groomers these days

[Jibartik]

Its sad that the only thing the left could do about the border after all the crying about concentration camps, was nothing.

[Gravydoo II]

Why does Elizondo hate women so much? To choose to live alone.. Calling all who oppose you groomer. LOL That must be soooo frustrating to think you're on the side of justice and nobody notices. No girls notice. LOL

Chad took your girl, huh?

[Jibartik]

But he's calling pedophiles groomers.

[Elizondo]

Why does Elizondo hate women so much? To choose to live alone.. Calling all who oppose you groomer. LOL That must be soooo frustrating to think you're on the side of justice and nobody notices. No girls notice. LOL

Chad took your girl, huh?

Define woman

You a Biologist?

[Gravydoo II]

He's just so mad hes been alone for decades. Gotta try to spread that helpless, impotent anger. LOL so pathetic.

Theres also a 70% chance hes overweight or obese because hes american.. The typical incel. Probably fat. Probably has tits. Incel tits.

Why dont you just do it eli? Save yourself the embarrassment of going on forever alone.. LOL

[Gravydoo II]

All around me are familiar faces.. LOLOLOL

[Reiwa]

He's just so mad hes been alone for decades. Gotta try to spread that helpless, impotent anger. LOL so pathetic.

Theres also a 70% chance hes overweight or obese because hes american.. The typical incel. Probably fat. Probably has tits. Incel tits.

Why dont you just do it eli? Save yourself the embarrassment of going on forever alone.. LOL

I don't think any of that is true, but if it was - why are you punching down at him?

[Horza]

But he's calling pedophiles groomers.

Just not Trump, and Moore, and Gaetz, and...

[Elizondo]

He's just so mad hes been alone for decades. Gotta try to spread that helpless, impotent anger. LOL so pathetic.

Theres also a 70% chance hes overweight or obese because hes american.. The typical incel. Probably fat. Probably has tits. Incel tits.

Why dont you just do it eli? Save yourself the embarrassment of going on forever alone.. LOL

Do what? Groomer

[Gravydoo II]

I don't think any of that is true, but if it was - why are you punching down at him?

I do. He's a 5'6" incel. Cant get a date. Cant even carry on a conversation. Pretty obvious thats not husband or even friend material. He's just another lonely lonely man. LOLOL its hilarious, too. Being an incel is a choice.

[Reiwa]

I do. He's a 5'6" incel. Cant get a date. Cant even carry on a conversation. Pretty obvious thats not husband or even friend material. He's just another lonely lonely man. LOLOL its hilarious, too. Being an incel is a choice.

Psychotic bully mentality

[Gravydoo II]

Whatever you say, Luca Magzondo.

[Gravydoo II]

Psychotic bully mentality

thats a bit of a jump but ok. I'll take it.

[Reiwa]

thats a bit of a jump but ok. I'll take it.

I don't think it is.

If elizobda was what you say about him, does that jazz harmoniously with leftwing inclusionism?

I don't think it does.

[Horza]

I don't think it is.

If elizobda was what you say about him, does that jazz harmoniously with leftwing inclusionism?

I don't think it does.

We're not taking him, you're stuck with that paste eating retard.