the i dont care about politics anymore thread

[Duik]

ALL Hail our Lizard Overlords.

[Whale biologist]

Is it the expiring congress or the newly inaugurated Congress wot certifies state elector slates?

🤔

[unsunghero]

I could feed a million pet lizards! We got a ton outside! They probably benefit from it.

Should get a pic of some sometime. I’m a huge reptile nerd. Had chameleon, bearded dragon, giant African spurred turtles (second biggest in world), horny toad (which is actually a lizard), and a Colombian red tailed Boa snake at various points of my life

[unsunghero]

..

[Gravydoo II]

But rape daddy said that it would go away with the humidity.

[Trexller]

But rape daddy said that it would go away with the humidity.

none of us care about what you say to your children.

[Gravydoo II]

Literally what trump told his "children" and they believed it.

Now all the sudden, covid is this huge problem.. Only took 800,000 people to die and now, just now its an issue. I love conservatives. Just like the economy. When all the rich people were making all the money, stock records every week, money like crazy being given away by the government in tax breaks = good. Democrat takes office. omg too much money, we're making too much money! Theres too much of it! Too much money in the economy.

Who would have thought giving away trillions in tax cuts, injecting it into an economy which did not need it at all, would devalue its currency. Almost like, too much of something makes it worth less....

LOL

[Homesteaded]

It’s always startling to hear this gravy guy, he has himself all twisted up. It’s genuinely concerning that people like him exist and actually believe they are objective.

[Whale biologist]

Literally what trump told his "children" and they believed it.

Now all the sudden, covid is this huge problem.. Only took 800,000 people to die and now, just now its an issue. I love conservatives. Just like the economy. When all the rich people were making all the money, stock records every week, money like crazy being given away by the government in tax breaks = good. Democrat takes office. omg too much money, we're making too much money! Theres too much of it! Too much money in the economy.

Who would have thought giving away trillions in tax cuts, injecting it into an economy which did not need it at all, would devalue its currency. Almost like, too much of something makes it worth less....

LOL

It did need to grow tho.

Tax breaks, or "cuts" exist to incentivize economic activity the US government has an interest in promoting.

[unsunghero]

“FBI, I’d like to report someone encouraging political extremism online”

[Gravydoo II]

I thought that "freeing up all that money can raise wages and hire more workers" lol labor shortage, CEO pay at all time highs, worker pays at all time lows.

[Jibartik]

I wonder if Alex Jones has a shot at being elected president.

[Trexller]

hey at least alex jones can string together a coherent sentence, and also understands when people are making fun of him

[unsunghero]

hey at least alex jones can string together a coherent sentence, and also understands when people are making fun of him

He actually has a good sense of humor, and a lot of it is self-deprecating, which takes a certain amount of maturity

But apparently his wife beats the shit out of him. I know why, she musta gotten into those testosterone-boosting supplements he was selling :)

[Horza]

Marjorie Taylor Greene is suggesting a ‘national divorce’ between red and blue states, but haven't we already tried that once before?

[Jibartik]

I just listened to alex jones and he was talking about all the end times shit I do this is great stuff I love this guy I hope he's right (as usual)

[Swish]

I think there's a few infowars t-shirts in this thread.

[starkind]

The problem isn't Covid. It is how we treat eachother. Ourselves. Our world. And our country. It's the choices we make. Who we give authority to. And who we expect to solve our problems.

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Should get a pic of some sometime. I’m a huge reptile nerd. Had chameleon, bearded dragon, giant African spurred turtles (second biggest in world), horny toad (which is actually a lizard), and a Colombian red tailed Boa snake at various points of my life
I will sometime! A lizard safari would be fun :)

[Mblake1981]

I wonder if Alex Jones has a shot at being elected president.

e1SArILAHPw

[starkind]

whats with the nokia fetish tho lawl?

[Ooloo]

Well my parents are officially completely consumed by the covid hysteria cult. Went to see them and the topic came up of why we never react this way to other diseases like the flu, which is also quite dangerous for the elderly and *more* dangerous to kids than covid.

I was expecting my mom to pause and think about that point, but instead her response was essentially: "You're right, we SHOULD have been acting this way all along for the flu and common colds, we should have been wearing masks and everything else all along, we could have saved so many lives."

So in her mind the abnormal behavior was how things were *before* covid, and how things are now is actually good. It's extremely disturbing and because it's my own parents being this unreasonable I'm genuinely concerned about it.

And yes, they watch basically nothing but msnbc and cnn all day. And occasionally sports.

[Mblake1981]

Sorry to hear that, hope they get better when the news tells them to.

[Ooloo]

Seriously I can imagine what it's like for people who lose loved ones to scientology. On my drive home I had this elaborate day dream about my parents disconnecting me or whatever that insane thing is where scientologists cut off all contact with certain family members or friends at the behest of the church.

[Gravydoo II]

Weird how its always republicans saying "lets leave the USA, but not leave it, just make this state not part of it anymore" no... they said they hate america and want a divorce. Go then.

[Homesteaded]

Well my parents are officially completely consumed by the covid hysteria cult. Went to see them and the topic came up of why we never react this way to other diseases like the flu, which is also quite dangerous for the elderly and *more* dangerous to kids than covid.

I was expecting my mom to pause and think about that point, but instead her response was essentially: "You're right, we SHOULD have been acting this way all along for the flu and common colds, we should have been wearing masks and everything else all along, we could have saved so many lives."

So in her mind the abnormal behavior was how things were *before* covid, and how things are now is actually good. It's extremely disturbing and because it's my own parents being this unreasonable I'm genuinely concerned about it.

And yes, they watch basically nothing but msnbc and cnn all day. And occasionally sports.

My in-laws are the same way. I've tried to have some discussions with them about this but they are dug in. The biggest surprise to me from all of this is how many are just waiting to be told what to do. How many don't have interest in examining things on a deeper, longer term level. Keep the TV on, keep my belly full and many will just go along.

[Mblake1981]

Weird how its always republicans saying "lets leave the USA, but not leave it, just make this state not part of it anymore" no... they said they hate america and want a divorce. Go then.

LMAOOOOOOOOOO i knw rite *tokes crack* LOLOLOLOLOLOLOL

-posted from my crack house

[Whale biologist]

LMAOOOOOOOOOO i knw rite *tokes crack* LOLOLOLOLOLOLOL

-posted from my crack house

uS5xR7jBxDw

[Jibartik]

e1SArILAHPw

lol I think im falling in love

[Mblake1981]

it used to be an acceptable position for men, fruitblake. :)

https://i.imgur.com/6cigSiU.gif

[Gravydoo II]

LMAOOOOOOOOOO i knw rite *tokes crack* LOLOLOLOLOLOLOL

-posted from my crack house

Even your jokes are stale an impotent. Just like you.

That is why you dont drink while you're pregnant.

[Mblake1981]

Even your jokes are stale an impotent. Just like you.

That is why you dont drink while you're pregnant.

You're not able.

[Gravydoo II]

I found a 486 on the road side with all the guts still in it. You want it? IBM

[unsunghero]

Weird how its always republicans saying "lets leave the USA, but not leave it, just make this state not part of it anymore" no... they said they hate america and want a divorce. Go then.

If there was a way to logistically do it, I’d be for it, even if it meant me being the one to “leave” to somewhere else

But it’s not possible, all states are a combination of both parties. One party would have to volunteer to leave every state, down to the last person. Never gonna happen

But like I said, if it were possible, I’d be all for it. If I had to describe the “marriage” between Dems and Repubs in this country I’d call it extremely toxic and fraught with domestic violence. Had it been a couple they would have long since divorced or one would be in prison

[unsunghero]

My in-laws are the same way. I've tried to have some discussions with them about this but they are dug in. The biggest surprise to me from all of this is how many are just waiting to be told what to do. How many don't have interest in examining things on a deeper, longer term level. Keep the TV on, keep my belly full and many will just go along.

Sorry for both ya

My mom is a conservative who’s vaccinated because she is in her mid 60’s and a breast cancer survivor (double mastectomy), her sister (a die hard Republican) is because she has been a smoker all her life and still smokes, and is also in her late 60’s (an extremely high risk category). My uncle is a conservative who is vaxxed because he is a stage 4 prostate cancer survivor (in remission)

None of them are hypochondriacs or hysterics, they only got the vaxx because they were immune-compromised. As it should be for this country

[Mblake1981]

You have poor aim, Wonkyan

[Mblake1981]

https://i.imgur.com/nJohTel.gif

https://i.imgur.com/KOCoOv1.png

[Whale biologist]

never thought blake would fall to the anti-delete darkness. :(

[Gravydoo II]

If there was a way to logistically do it, I’d be for it, even if it meant me being the one to “leave” to somewhere else

But it’s not possible, all states are a combination of both parties. One party would have to volunteer to leave every state, down to the last person. Never gonna happen

But like I said, if it were possible, I’d be all for it. If I had to describe the “marriage” between Dems and Repubs in this country I’d call it extremely toxic and fraught with domestic violence. Had it been a couple they would have long since divorced or one would be in prison

If it ever did happen... You ever seen the documentary about the slaughter in india and pakistan when they separated? Shit went out of control, it was a massacre. Four million people on the move at once with no police force. Thousands were murdered. To think we would be any better, hah. The wing nuts of this place are already foaming at the mouth for war. They already had two insurrections, one rioting, one from within congress. As soon as a border was declared anyone on the "wrong" side was the walking dead.

[Mblake1981]

I don't have curry on my breath nor is my home made of Adobe. You two bullshitters are just that.

[Mblake1981]

never thought blake would fall to the anti-delete darkness. :(

That dog ain't gonna hunt.

[Patriam1066]

It did need to grow tho.

Tax breaks, or "cuts" exist to incentivize economic activity the US government has an interest in promoting.

Marginally. At the point where teachers are making $50,000 a year and my stock portfolio adds more than that in a month, we need need to raise income taxes back to Reagan era levels and consider increasing capital gains taxes on stocks and second (or third) homes. Inequality is destabilizing. Populism and property crime are rising as a result of some of these things, and to some degree, I understand why a poor person without a college degree would not see the point of an honest job as opposed to doing bull shit like mining Bitcoin or stealing catalytic converters. We have gone too far free market. No honest, hard working employed non obese American should be unable to pay their bills for reasonable accommodation, food, etc

I wish I knew how to make that happen. Even giving the government more power to redistribute, or a tax break for essential workers like teachers, librarians, nurses, firemen, paramedics, etc, would be immediately abused. I think money in politics should be banned and political campaigning should be limited to 3 months prior to elections, with primary timelines dramatically reduced. When I decide what state I’m going to retire in (NC, Washington, Montana, Tennessee are the leading contenders), I plan on running for Congress as a moderate Republican. It would be nice if our Congress could even discuss ideas that might work without instantly poisoning the well by causing the other side redneck or communist

[Mblake1981]

Now switch to your main.

[Gravydoo II]

Marginally. At the point where teachers are making $50,000 a year and my stock portfolio adds more than that in a month, we need need to raise income taxes back to Reagan era levels and consider increasing capital gains taxes on stocks and second (or third) homes. Inequality is destabilizing. Populism and property crime are rising as a result of some of these things, and to some degree, I understand why a poor person without a college degree would not see the point of an honest job as opposed to doing bull shit like mining Bitcoin or stealing catalytic converters. We have gone too far free market. No honest, hard working employed non obese American should be unable to pay their bills for reasonable accommodation, food, etc

I wish I knew how to make that happen. Even giving the government more power to redistribute, or a tax break for essential workers like teachers, librarians, nurses, firemen, paramedics, etc, would be immediately abused. I think money in politics should be banned and political campaigning should be limited to 3 months prior to elections, with primary timelines dramatically reduced. When I decide what state I’m going to retire in (NC, Washington, Montana, Tennessee are the leading contenders), I plan on running for Congress as a moderate Republican. It would be nice if our Congress could even discuss ideas that might work without instantly poisoning the well by causing the other side redneck or communist


People would lose their fucking minds if they even KNEW what the tax rates were back then. They would cry. Then, they will commit suicide once they realize republicans were behind it.

[Mblake1981]

https://i.imgur.com/HGeU5KA.jpg

[Gravydoo II]

I fixed it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3YmMNpbFjp0&ab_channel=zacklegend

[unsunghero]

Inequality is destabilizing. Populism and property crime are rising as a result of some of these things, and to some degree

You didn’t explicitly say it, but too many people conflate income inequality to mean one side of the spectrum is literally stealing the money from the other side of the spectrum. Inequality just means both sides are GROWING, just that the far side is growing at a exponentially higher rate. But as long as both sides are growing, that is still a net positive for this country. People get more fired up about income inequality due to being lied to and believing that evil mustache-twisting monopoly-game villains are stealing their money from them

Crime is rising because of soft-on-crime local legislation. Bail reform has put a lot of career criminals back on the streets, the Christmas parade massacre is a big example. People are not stealing loaves of bread like AOC claims, they are flash mob stealing high end clothing and electronics stores because they know they can get away with it

You should run as a Democrat, not a moderate Republican

[Whale biologist]

You didn’t explicitly say it, but too many people conflate income inequality to mean one side of the spectrum is literally stealing the money from the other side of the spectrum. Inequality just means both sides are GROWING, just that the far side is growing at a exponentially higher rate. But as long as both sides are growing, that is still a net positive for this country. People get more fired up about income inequality due to being lied to and believing that evil mustache-twisting monopoly-game villains are stealing their money from them

Crime is rising because of soft-on-crime local legislation. Bail reform has put a lot of career criminals back on the streets, the Christmas parade massacre is a big example. People are not stealing loaves of bread like AOC claims, they are flash mob stealing high end clothing and electronics stores because they know they can get away with it

You should run as a Democrat, not a moderate Republican

Purchasing power stagnation good or bad? :eek:

[Jibartik]

People would lose their fucking minds if they even KNEW what the tax rates were back then. They would cry. Then, they will commit suicide once they realize republicans were behind it.

he said income tax.

thats you not elon

[unsunghero]

Purchasing power stagnation good or bad? :eek:

What contributes to that more though? Wage growth has not been completely stagnant, but now prices and rent costs have gone up. And why is that?

[Jibartik]

What contributes to that more though? Wage growth has not been completely stagnant, but now prices and rent costs have gone up. And why is that?

because people dont want to be homeless and will make huge sacrifices to live in one.

culturally the concept of land ownership IMO is a toxic concept and that people should be more concerned with living off the land then owning more of it.

Patrims high taxes for owning multiple properties I think would solve the rent issue.

I will never, ever give a shit about the property management industry going up in smoke.

[Whale biologist]

What contributes to that more though? Wage growth has not been completely stagnant, but now prices and rent costs have gone up. And why is that?

no like hypothetically. no couching it in current rhetoricisms.

[unsunghero]

because people dont want to be homeless and will make huge sacrifices to live in one.

culturally the concept of land ownership IMO is a toxic concept and that people should be more concerned with living off the land then owning more of it.

Patrims high taxes for owning multiple properties I think would solve the rent issue.

I will never, ever give a shit about the property management industry going up in smoke.

From what I’ve been told as inflation rises the value of non-monetary assets such as stocks and real estate goes up. Rather than have your savings in dollars, put it into a 2nd house or more stocks. The stock market has been consistently rising in value on a whole because of this

So what is making inflation go up?

I’ve also heard there are rules preventing an financial firm like Blackrock from buying up entire neighborhoods and cities worth of properties. Investment firms can only buy so many properties in a given zip code. I would be for an increase to restrictions like these. I don’t see Joe Schmo rich guy and his 3 houses as the problem, I see investment firms buying everything up as the problem

[Horza]

I don't have curry on my breath nor is my home made of Adobe. You two bullshitters are just that.

What is this racist crap? Oh, it's just Republicans being retarded.

[unsunghero]

no like hypothetically. no couching it in current rhetoricisms.

It’s not hypothetical though. Thanks to inflation, purchasing power HAS gone down

You could maybe argue that wages haven’t risen to the level of inflation (that I’m not sure of, I personally received a 6% raise, not sure about elsewhere), but inflation is still a major part of that equation

[Mblake1981]

What is this racist crap? Oh, it's just Republicans being retarded.

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[Whale biologist]

It’s not hypothetical though. Thanks to inflation, purchasing power HAS gone down

You could maybe argue that wages haven’t risen to the level of inflation (that I’m not sure of, I personally received a 6% raise, not sure about elsewhere), but inflation is still a major part of that equation

my brain is smart enough to turn off whenever someone talks about inflation.

go cougs

[Jibartik]

So what is making inflation go up?

free money passed out by the gov

people not going out and spending cash on food & alcohol gas and new clothes

people staying home and cooking more

I mean I could say the pandemic, but really it's that people dont like working and the pandemic allows them to survive on unemployment comfortably spending less on commuting and dumb cost of living money vaccumes like a 9$ coffee after lunch, and instead groceries and gambling on stocks

and that's just the poor people, the rich people are like, lol we got a few extra billion to spend this year, lets buy houses!

[Horza]

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Why stop at being a trashy racist about the most populous countries when you can drive every last immigrant into the arms of the Democrats?

[unsunghero]

my brain is smart enough to turn off whenever someone talks about inflation.

go cougs

Whatever else you want to call it. Rising prices, rising rent costs. It affects purchasing power

Purchasing power is what money I have versus what the thing I want to buy costs correct?

I guess if you cover your eyes every time someone brings up rising costs you can pretend it’s not happening

[Mblake1981]

Why stop at being a trashy racist about the most populous countries when you can drive every last immigrant into the arms of the Democrats?

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[Horza]

It's strange how conservatives never said a word about inflation when their rape daddy spent trillions cutting taxes for his rich cronies.

[unsunghero]

All I’m saying in regards to income inequality specifically is that this is how I picture it:

Someone works as a carpenter and used to make $13/hour making furniture out of wood, now makes $15/hour a few years later

Someone else works as an aerospace engineer who also invests in the stock market and used to make $500,000k/year, but a few years later makes close to $800,000k/year

The second person has literally no affect on the first person’s life. He doesn’t employ that person, he doesn’t buy furniture from that person, doesn’t even know that person exists. And vice-versa

Then someone else says to the first person “Did you know this other guy is making $800,000/year?” And the first guy now has some newfound perspective on his income. What used to satisfy now seems meager. He doesn’t understand the skill-gap between aerospace engineering and carpentry and doesn’t care to understand it. He is now fired up that some injustice has taken place, despite the fact that both parties improved their earnings over the past year

[Patriam1066]

You didn’t explicitly say it, but too many people conflate income inequality to mean one side of the spectrum is literally stealing the money from the other side of the spectrum. Inequality just means both sides are GROWING, just that the far side is growing at a exponentially higher rate. But as long as both sides are growing, that is still a net positive for this country. People get more fired up about income inequality due to being lied to and believing that evil mustache-twisting monopoly-game villains are stealing their money from them

Crime is rising because of soft-on-crime local legislation. Bail reform has put a lot of career criminals back on the streets, the Christmas parade massacre is a big example. People are not stealing loaves of bread like AOC claims, they are flash mob stealing high end clothing and electronics stores because they know they can get away with it

You should run as a Democrat, not a moderate Republican

Lol i am not a democrat buddy. I believe very strongly in NATO, capitalism, democracy, the bill of rights, etc

I do not believe anything left of center except for us being good stewards of the environment. The Republican Party just moved way to the right

[Patriam1066]

Inequality does not imply theft. If an investment banker has enough to buy three houses, and a teacher is priced out of buying one house, we have a politically destabilizing problem. This does not make the banker immoral, it simply means the rest of us must consider how our society is structured. I am also a person who considers education to be more important than anything, so I am biased.

That is just a simplified example, but structurally, something has to change before each party is dominated by populists (sad but true - populists are not competent and almost never deliver

[Jibartik]

If I was Putin id hype up trump, and sew discontent in the usa, then I'd threaten biden so much and just troll him basically like someone on the forums until the messaging is that he's a baffoon and unhinged and as a result created an international crisis that ended with putin having to take Ukraine.

https://www.businessinsider.com/putin-warns-biden-call-relations-collapse-sanctions-ukraine-2021-12?utm_source=reddit.com&utm_source=reddit.com

[Horza]

an international crisis that ended with putin having to take Ukraine.

lol

[unsunghero]

Inequality does not imply theft. If an investment banker has enough to buy three houses, and a teacher is priced out of buying one house

The price of that house has far more to do with the investment banker's CHOICE to invest their money in houses rather than how much money they make

If the investment banker made $100,000,000,000 per day, yet never chose to invest in the housing market, their income has absolutely ZERO bearing on the teacher's income OR the teacher's purchasing power of homes

So stop trying to legislate stealing money from the investment banker and instead maybe restrict how many homes can be purchased as investments, is my opinion

[Jibartik]

lol

biden literally said the only punishment would be sanctions that putin just laughed in his face about.

hes gonna take ukrain, and blame it on crotchety old man sleepy joe and the messaging will stick because lets go brandon.

this is easy stuff.

[Horza]

biden literally said the only punishment would be sanctions that putin just laughed in his face about.

hes gonna take ukrain, and blame it on crotchety old man sleepy joe and the messaging will stick because lets go brandon.

this is easy stuff.

Just because you Republicans are Putin's official ball washers doesn't mean that the rest of the world is similarly stupid and naive.

[Jibartik]

Just because you Republicans are Putin's official ball washers doesn't mean that the rest of the world is similarly stupid and naive.

you spent the last 6 years sucking putins fake russia collusion propaganda's dick.

[Horza]

you spent the last 6 years sucking putins fake russia collusion propaganda's dick.

https://i.imgur.com/XWibrcK.jpg

[Jibartik]

you're the weaponized people im saying putin is using to sew discontent linking me divisive propaganda from fox news just proves my point.

[unsunghero]

They should list two impeachments of president Trump in their accomplishments, since it technically happened twice. Pad that list a bit more. Both did nothing, of course

Juneteeth does nothing to improve anyone's lives, symbolical I guess though

Resettling Afghans while also simultaneously stranding american citizens in a warzone after pulling out military

Infrastructure bill was bi-partisan

I like the ban on China imports though, I wonder if Biden had to privately apologize to his boss, Xi for that one

[Patriam1066]

The price of that house has far more to do with the investment banker's CHOICE to invest their money in houses rather than how much money they make

If the investment banker made $100,000,000,000 per day, yet never chose to invest in the housing market, their income has absolutely ZERO bearing on the teacher's income OR the teacher's purchasing power of homes

So stop trying to legislate stealing money from the investment banker and instead maybe restrict how many homes can be purchased as investments, is my opinion

An increase in taxes is a much less extreme position than limiting what can be done in a market economy. I don’t understand your position.

And no, Airbnb, rent, etc, have made buying real estate an almost no brainer if you have money. So the gap in income matters and has an effect on housing prices

[Elizondo]

It's strange how conservatives never said a word about inflation when their rape daddy spent trillions cutting taxes for his rich cronies.

you should stick to endlessly postin paste and trump hate

when you stick your toe in real discussions you always prove you real low iq bro

[Jibartik]

They should list two impeachments of president Trump

literally a russian op, about a russian op and then it's linked when I say "putins sewing discontent so he can tell old man yelling at cloud to shut up"

[unsunghero]

An increase in taxes is a much less extreme position than limiting what can be done in a market economy. I don’t understand your position.

And no, Airbnb, rent, etc, have made buying real estate an almost no brainer if you have money. So the gap in income matters and has an effect on housing prices

I'm talking about reasonable limits on purchasing a particular product. You are talking about theft (stealing one's money) via the government. One is far more extreme than the other

If you went to buy your 5th TV, and I said you were unable to buy that, and someone else said to you "give me $10,000 right now" what would feel more extreme to you?

[Patriam1066]

Taxes aren’t theft. That’s nonsense. Ronald Reagan was a thief?

[Patriam1066]

700,000 homeless Americans is extreme to me. But I follow the constitution and the Bible, not Twitter libertarians

[unsunghero]

I also am arguing this should be done to curb scalping of electronics, something that is also supposedly in the works

Scalping is worse than it has ever been, and automated systems to catch scripts and bots buying up all the new graphics cards and video game consoles simply don't work. Something needs to be done to prevent this from continuing to get out of control. We don't want an economy where all video game system's prices from release for the next 2 years are controlled by scalpers exploiting the rich who are willing to overspend 2-3x the value of the console at the cost of the non-rich

I don't see houses as any different, if real estate continues to get more and more out of control due to investment firms buying it all up

[Horza]

Taxes aren’t theft. That’s nonsense. Ronald Reagan was a thief?

You going to tell me these guys are actually apologists for Russian aggression against their neighbors next? :p

[unsunghero]

Taxes aren’t theft. That’s nonsense. Ronald Reagan was a thief?

There is a point where taxation is theft. If not, consider giving the government 100% of your income and see how it feels. You can do it right now, don't need to be forced

https://fiscal.treasury.gov/public/gifts-to-government.html

[Gravydoo II]

it sure is easy to make up a false scenario and cry about it. Who said 100%? When? Ever in american history??

[Gravydoo II]

nope cause native american tribes got the land back and money.

[Jibartik]

Re: housing prices, taxation and the state of things.

You cant fix the country with legislation, we have a culture problem.

When it comes down to it the good guy is the one who owns the deeds.

Doesn't matter how they got them.

[unsunghero]

it sure is easy to make up a false scenario and cry about it. Who said 100%? When? Ever in american history??

I just used it to demonstrate there is an amount where it becomes theft. The amount (%) is subjective

Most increase in tax-proponents are not willing to make a financial gift to the government of their own money, despite being able to do it electronically in just 1 minute. After all, it feels better to be virtuous with other people's money

And I am FOR limiting investment firm's ability to invest in real estate if that is indeed the reason that is pricing the middle class out of being able to afford a home. Banks already impose limits on total number of loans for property, these are just being circumvented by paying cash

[Jibartik]

And I am FOR limiting investment firm's ability to invest in real estate if that is indeed the reason that is pricing the middle class out of being able to afford a home. Banks already impose limits on total number of loans for property, these are just being circumvented by paying cash

If it wasnt for the russian op's, we'd realize we're all on the same side in America.

https://www.businessinsider.com/russian-billionaires-buying-american-real-estate-2012-4

edit: of course, culturally, if anyone you ever knew sold their family property to a Russian investment firm you'd all champion their shrude American business savviness. While the country burns to a sunder.

Its all good though because Bidden makes sure "walmarts shelves were stocked."

[unsunghero]

If it wasnt for the russian op's, we'd realize we're all on the same side in America.

https://www.businessinsider.com/russian-billionaires-buying-american-real-estate-2012-4

And I'm assuming ultra-wealthy china investors are doing the same

So taxing the living shit out of the ultra-wealthy does nothing to change this, because these people are outside the US tax jurisdiction

The only thing that will help is putting limits on the practice. Which I'm assuming they'll still try to circumvent. But then maybe they can get caught doing so in an audit or something

[Jibartik]

And I'm assuming ultra-wealthy china investors are doing the same

oh yea big time.

The issue is simple, the concept of rolling back investments in the usa is like blasphme to its people, and most of the world at this point.

But that is literally killing inside and outside of America.

Culturally we need a major wakeup call.

I dont believe we can fix this with legislation because I've watched us try for 50 years and the disparity and gap between the rich and poor here only gotten worse.

We've forgotten what makes people whole and replaced it with 1920s stock market frenzies and corperate tiktoks and ad revenue being the holy grail of creativity.

[unsunghero]

oh yea big time.

The issue is simple, the concept of rolling back investments in the usa is like blasphme to its people, and most of the world at this point.

But that is literally killing inside and outside of America.

Culturally we need a major wakeup call.

I dont believe we can fix this with legislation because I've watched us try for 50 years and the disparity and gap between the rich and poor here only gotten worse.

We've forgotten what makes people whole and replaced it with 1920s stock market frenzies and corperate tiktoks and ad revenue being the holy grail of creativity.

I know nothing about real estate, and this is just off the top of my head. But just like you need a real estate license to buy or sell other people's properties, make a different license you need to apply for in order to buy and sell properties on a large scale. And limit the total number of these licenses allowed per year based on the number of homes constructed, or something like that

Without this license, you are limited to buying an arbitrary number of properties, say something like 5

Why couldn't something like this happen?

[Whale biologist]

it only becomes theft when it's not a portion of your GAINZ.

Tithe to princeps or else.

[starkind]

Which kind of government is easiest to overthrow?

Fascist?
Monarchy?
Totalitarian?
Socialist?
Democratic?
Republican?
Communist?
Dictatorship?
Military?
Federation?
Corporate?
Theocratic?
Combination?

And in which order?

A militaristic communist theocracy. Seems like it'd be hard to overthrow maybe. Especially once it gets a solid foothold and a few generations of conditioning into its population. Those are probably the most stable governments.

[Jibartik]

what are all the south American and asian governments before they are overthrown with a socialist coop? Whatever the most of them are.

[Patriam1066]

I also am arguing this should be done to curb scalping of electronics, something that is also supposedly in the works

Scalping is worse than it has ever been, and automated systems to catch scripts and bots buying up all the new graphics cards and video game consoles simply don't work. Something needs to be done to prevent this from continuing to get out of control. We don't want an economy where all video game system's prices from release for the next 2 years are controlled by scalpers exploiting the rich who are willing to overspend 2-3x the value of the console at the cost of the non-rich

I don't see houses as any different, if real estate continues to get more and more out of control due to investment firms buying it all up

I don’t know the answer man, but my son, an optometrist, made $11 million in stocks and crypto (he had a ton of Bitcoin and ethereum) over the course of the pandemic, and he moved to Florida and retired. He owns two homes in Texas, one that he rents and one that is an airbnb, and neither him nor his wife work

Something is fucked up about that, and we’ve had higher marginal tax rates before. I don’t think thirty year olds should be retiring while others quite literally suffer. I am also not a fascist or a statist, so I wouldn’t throw my son into a gulag or force him to work, but I don’t know the answer. There has to be a happy medium between complete libertarian freedom and communism. Its also important to note that I’ve told my children to invest in index funds and my son has always done that, so a big part of the money he made was due to the Fed pumping money into the stock market. Our government has a lot to do with some market and real estate gains, so why not raise taxes back to Reagan levels? I never said 100%, and I am not saying increase taxes on anyone making under $100,000. However, the current situation is unsustainable. An Airbnb property should provide capital to the owner at 5x what a teacher makes? Doesn’t make sense if we want to incentivize hard work instead of everyone becoming an obese crypto shitlord

[Jibartik]

the only thing that would change any of that is culturally if we realized that none of that makes us whole.

unfortunately that is the stark opposite of where we are and where we're trending.

you described the entire "dream"

[starkind]

what are all the south American and asian governments before they are overthrown with a socialist coop? Whatever the most of them are.

Usually some twisted form of democratic republican socialism lawl.

They are or where absolute models of our government in many cases. What happens there though is the Federal becomes so corrupt Usually another corrupt group easily overthrows them with a coup backed by third parties and drug money, then they do that every few years until complete anarchy. Then there's some kind of communist revolution which eventually collapses when there's no more foreign money. Then back to a very localised form of governments where the cities are well governed, the rural population essentially ungoverned or treated as non citizens. And left essentially in the wind for international interests to step in and try to develop via the cities and ports creating refugees and or guerillas. It's all very comical if you're in a heartless mood. Honestly I feel like that's just the default defacto state of humanity without some kind of religion state or otherwise driving cultural values of responsibility and discipline.

[unsunghero]

I don’t know the answer man, but my son, an optometrist, made $11 million in stocks and crypto (he had a ton of Bitcoin and ethereum) over the course of the pandemic, and he moved to Florida and retired. He owns two homes in Texas, one that he rents and one that is an airbnb, and neither him nor his wife work

Something is fucked up about that, and we’ve had higher marginal tax rates before. I don’t think thirty year olds should be retiring while others quite literally suffer. I am also not a fascist or a statist, so I wouldn’t throw my son into a gulag or force him to work, but I don’t know the answer. There has to be a happy medium between complete libertarian freedom and communism. Its also important to note that I’ve told my children to invest in index funds and my son has always done that, so a big part of the money he made was due to the Fed pumping money into the stock market. Our government has a lot to do with some market and real estate gains, so why not raise taxes back to Reagan levels? I never said 100%, and I am not saying increase taxes on anyone making under $100,000. However, the current situation is unsustainable. An Airbnb property should provide capital to the owner at 5x what a teacher makes? Doesn’t make sense if we want to incentivize hard work instead of everyone becoming an obese crypto shitlord

Ok, I’m going to give you the benefit of the doubt that I am definitely the one that knows less about real estate, just going off personal experience

But what your son is choosing to charge for his Airbnb is a function of multiple things, right? It’s not just his whim, I’m assuming he’s basing the price around the competition? Because if the competition is charging significantly less, he wouldn’t get any customers. Unless his home is in some exotic location where there are no competitors

And is an Airbnb considered like rent? I’ve actually never stayed at a Airbnb but isn’t just really short term? When I think rent costs, I am thinking either month to month or leases you get into with the landlord. Not that those prices aren’t going up as well, but aren’t they different categorically to a 1 night stay at a BnB?

I’m going to assume a scenario where instead of a BnB, your son rents the property to someone, and makes money that way. Let’s assume he owns the property so the rent goes into his pocket and doesn’t have to go towards the property’s mortgage

That would mean your son has whatever the value of the home in $$ to invest into a way of making money. If he wanted, he could sell the property and have probably hundreds of thousands of $$ to invest in some other business venture. Had he chose, he could buy multiple store franchises for that (not chains, just multiple individual stores). Or like you said, a smart investment of those hundreds of thousands of dollars into the stock market or crypto could be enough to live off of

I really don’t see the problem with your son’s situation. Also, I think the value of homes and rent are going up because the real estate market is too hot, and that’s due to big investment firms and whales, not your son

[unsunghero]

Wow I always wondered if the government could ever make police go door to door to gather up guns. That is actually a lot more unlikely than I thought

I just stumbled onto some firearms law. Apparently if you own an illegal firearm, let’s say an automatic weapon, the federal government can send an argent from ATF (alcohol, tobacco, and firearms) to your door to seize it. They can and will identify themselves as a cop, and demand you open the door

But you don’t have to. And they can’t do anything further without getting a warrant first. I’m assuming this is possible, but just adds another layer of complication. And this is to get something like a fully automatic weapon. The red tape required to get them to search your home for something like a pistol? Probably never gonna happen

Just more reason to reinforce why people intended to continue to break the law should never talk to or open their door for cops

[myrddraal]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gmZIJwJlApg

[Jibartik]

Usually some twisted form of democratic republican socialism lawl.

They are or where absolute models of our government in many cases. What happens there though is the Federal becomes so corrupt Usually another corrupt group easily overthrows them with a coup backed by third parties and drug money, then they do that every few years until complete anarchy. Then there's some kind of communist revolution which eventually collapses when there's no more foreign money. Then back to a very localised form of governments where the cities are well governed, the rural population essentially ungoverned or treated as non citizens. And left essentially in the wind for international interests to step in and try to develop via the cities and ports creating refugees and or guerillas. It's all very comical if you're in a heartless mood. Honestly I feel like that's just the default defacto state of humanity without some kind of religion state or otherwise driving cultural values of responsibility and discipline.

youre describing little mini usa's haha (and mini Russia's and chinas ha)

I know nothing about real estate, and this is just off the top of my head. But just like you need a real estate license to buy or sell other people's properties, make a different license you need to apply for in order to buy and sell properties on a large scale. And limit the total number of these licenses allowed per year based on the number of homes constructed, or something like that

Without this license, you are limited to buying an arbitrary number of properties, say something like 5

Why couldn't something like this happen?

The problem is that owning realilstate is well, the american dream.

Culturally this country is, weather we want to admit it or not, a culture of ownership. It has built a great nation.

But we've changed a lot, we dont believe in anything, we're all nihilistis, and we dont think there is a future.

We've built a global market where shadows can buy anything and created a society where selling everything you have is the best you can be.

I like what patriam said or basically, anything like making owning a second home pointless beyond saving you time looking for a rental would help.

Owning 2 houses should at best be like keeping your money in the mattress. A pathetic laughed at thing to do if you're trying to "save your money".

The money should be invested into bonds to make the country a better place instead.

[unsunghero]

Owning 2 houses should at best be like keeping your money in the mattress. A pathetic laughed at thing to do if you're trying to "save your money".


Who can afford to pay off two mortgages at once, even before this recent housing boom? Not most people

So anyone who is making enough money to pay off multiple houses at once is also making enough money to invest that money into some other way of making money. My cousin worked as an accountant for years, I'm assuming she was saving money during that time, then got her real estate license, now she rents out like 5 properties and that's her new full time job. Assuming you manage them yourself it's actually a lot of work, since you are responsible for fixing anything that goes wrong on any property at any time. And also protecting yourself from getting ripped off

I have another co-worker who paid a company to list his second property, find renters, and rent it. They take a significant chunk of his rent earnings though, like 20% or something I forget. He mentioned that without having the property (just some cheap condo) paid off, he would have to make more in rent taken than the mortgage costs in order to have enough money on hand to fix stuff. Apparently his dryer at the property broke twice in a row, which he blames on the tenant trying to wash ridiculously large loads of clothes after being asked not to

So I think earning enough money to pay off and then rent out multiple homes has always been out of reach of most. And like I mentioned in my other post, if you can save up enough money to pay off a house completely, you could put that money into many other money making schemes and make just as much if not more than you could renting that house. Stocks or crypto being the big 2 examples

[Jibartik]

Im not sure what you mean by that.

I want to help most people buy a home.

1 company in china owns 20,000 homes.

also its super easy to buy a 2nd home with these interest rates and then rent it out to work from homers.

[unsunghero]

Im not sure what you mean by that.

But what Im talking about doing would help most people buy a home.

1 company in china owns 20,000 homes.

I was just mentioning that even before the housing boom, if you had a house paid off completely, you always had a good amount of capital to then make money with

You could rent the home out, assuming you could live somewhere else like with a relative. Or you could just sell the house and buy a store. I looked into buying a business franchise, and it’s not as expensive as you’d think, a lot of stores cost around $100k. So you could own your own subway restaurant. Even after paying a small staff, you could probably earn enough money with that store to comfortably live on, especially if you were living with a relative

So all this “making money in real estate” can also just mean saving up a shitload of money and then putting that money into some business venture. You just save the money by paying off your house while living in it

But yes there is a problem when the prices of homes get out of reach for people with middle class incomes to afford them. And I do think big investment firms buying up all the houses is the problem

[unsunghero]

also its super easy to buy a 2nd home with these interest rates and then rent it out to work from homers.

So you buy a second home, but then you owe on its mortgage. So all the rent you make goes towards the house mortgage, unless you are charging more for rent than the mortgage costs. But I think it would most likely be the other way around. Unless you find a sucker, you will probably have to charge less in rent than what you pay for the mortgage every year

So you will not make a liquid profit on that second house until the mortgage is paid which could take decades. I mean you are getting profit in equity in the house, but that’s not money you can use when you need to. You also have to fix everything that goes wrong in the house for the next 20 years. So you better have some money saved for that

[Jibartik]

So you buy a second home, but then you owe on its mortgage. So all the rent you make goes towards the house mortgage, unless you are charging more for rent than the mortgage costs. But I think it would most likely be the other way around. Unless you find a sucker, you will probably have to charge less in rent than what you pay for the mortgage every year

So you will not make a liquid profit on that second house until the mortgage is paid which could take decades. I mean you are getting profit in equity in the house, but that’s not money you can use when you need to. You also have to fix everything that goes wrong in the house for the next 20 years. So you better have some money saved for that

When I was a kid I used to always see informercials like this and wonder, what are the secrets?? WHAT ARE THE SECRETS???

K853GykeGH0

It's buying a house and selling it 6 months later to some dipshit who is willing to go in to debt for 30 years to pay an extra 230k because you painted it.

This on steroids, is both the boom and bust of our modern nation.

edit: I think this shit should be illegal. But then again, it makes better neighborhoods (at the cost of evicting old people, more sin!)

[unsunghero]

When I was a kid I used to always see informercials like this and wonder, what are the secrets?? WHAT ARE THE SECRETS???


It's buying a house and selling it 6 months later to some dipshit who is willing to go in to debt for 30 years to pay an extra 230k because you painted it.

This on steroids, is both the boom and bust of our modern nation.

edit: I think this shit should be illegal. But then again, it makes better neighborhoods (at the cost of evicting old people, more sin!)

If you buy the house then sell it 6 months later, you have to pay what you still owe on the house when you sell

So let’s say you put 20% down and finance 80% in a mortgage. In 6 months, you will have only made 6 payments on that mortgage. Considering you are paying the maximum amount of interest at the beginning (minimum at the end because interest paid scales off how much of the loan is left owed), then you wouldn’t have paid off even 1% or maybe not even 2% of the value in those 6 payments

So unless the home just skyrockets in value in the next 6 months, you would either be at a wash (no change) in money or else you might be down due to the fees and costs associated with buying and selling

So as a non-rich average joe who wants to make money in real estate, here’s how: buy a cheap home to live in that needs a lot of work done but is in a desirable area. Then find the cheapest (in my state this would be the illegals that post up outside home improvement stores) labor you can find to fix up the home. Then re-sell it after about 1-3 years. The value will have gone up due to demand for homes in that area + the value of the improvements you spent on the home. If you were able to get a bathroom put in for only $2000 of your money, you could still choose to charge $10,000-$20,000 more for it having an additional bathroom now. People love extra bathrooms, especially in multi-bedroom homes. Or if you put in that fancy hardwood floor everyone likes, you can charge way more for it in the home price when you sell than what you paid

Plus you get the amount of money the house naturally went up. You would still have to pay back what you still owe on your loan, but you could make like 80-100k in a few years doing that. Then, repeat

That would be my strategy. But you have to compete with the big firms trying to buy and flip these homes

[Jibartik]

trust me flipping homes is a great way to make my money my man. watch the video. that homeless dude with the 230k check could do it in the 80s because it was such a well kept secret.

the problem is the people making the money are the flippers and the bank and then the other 80% of the nation is at each others throats because they're up to theirs in insurmountable debt.

[unsunghero]

trust me flipping homes is a great way to make my money my man. watch the video.

That’s what I’m sayin. But flipping implies buying for cheap and selling for much more. You won’t be able to sell for much more in just 6 months time unless you spent money to make improvements on the house people will pay more for

But regardless I’ll watch the vid

[Jibartik]

That’s what I’m sayin. But flipping implies buying for cheap and selling for much more. You won’t be able to sell for much more in just 6 month

this is actually a great video about the last 10 years from a relatable perspective, from someone you no longer can relate to. :o

250% lol the only thing that could net more than that is being psychic :o

Oatco_H7Gfc

[unsunghero]

Haven’t watched the second but the first was just more like an ad for his method

I’ll watch the second in a bit, but like I mentioned before, if you paid the entire home value in cash, then you immediately start making money on it by renting it out. But if you took out a loan to buy it, then the rent you earn in renting it out has to go to that loan. So you won’t make money you can use right away

And it is possible to buy a home, do nothing, and then sell it for more. Mine is an example of that. It’s value has gone up around $125k in the last few years. If anything, it looks worse than before because I’ve done nothing to it, except maintain the yard. But it takes years for it to up in that kind of value, and mine is a special case because it is in a highly desirable part of Phoenix in a highly desirable state for people from CA to move to due to lower cost of living. A home in CA or NY will likely be going down in value, since no one wants to move there. So where you buy the home matters

Otherwise if you want to buy and then sell quick and make money in the sale, you’ll have to do something to improve the value and that usually implies big labor jobs like a new roof or new flooring

I’ll watch the second vid a bit later

[Whale biologist]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gmZIJwJlApg

Please stop linking this Mehmet, he sucks a lot!!

[Jibartik]

Haven’t watched the second but the first was just more like an ad for his method

I’ll watch the second in a bit, but like I mentioned before, if you paid the entire home value in cash, then you immediately start making money on it by renting it out. But if you took out a loan to buy it, then the rent you earn in renting it out has to go to that loan. So you won’t make money you can use right away

And it is possible to buy a home, do nothing, and then sell it for more. Mine is an example of that. It’s value has gone up around $125k in the last few years. If anything, it looks worse than before because I’ve done nothing to it, except maintain the yard. But it takes years for it to up in that kind of value, and mine is a special case because it is in a highly desirable part of Phoenix in a highly desirable state for people from CA to move to due to lower cost of living. A home in CA or NY will likely be going down in value, since no one wants to move there. So where you buy the home matters

Otherwise if you want to buy and then sell quick and make money in the sale, you’ll have to do something to improve the value and that usually implies big labor jobs like a new roof or new flooring

I’ll watch the second vid a bit later

The first video is a infomercial from teh 1980s just showing you how much you're missing out on like riding boats and flying in helicopters 40 years later after everything he had to say was published on youtube.

The second video is a video published on youtube the first video was selling

And this video is the state of our nation as a result of all this tom foolery:

Vh0piQN1_LY

those contractors youre talking about are the ones that get evicted

[Ooloo]

Then find the cheapest (in my state this would be the illegals that post up outside home improvement stores) labor you can find to fix up the home.

You'd be surprised. Even in upstate NY, there's a company that installs metal roofing and my neighbor had it done a couple years ago. Every single employee of "Evergreen roofing" was clearly hispanic and didn't speak english. Their boss was some white dude with glasses.

Not that they were illegal immigrants. I'm sure it's every immigrant's dream to settle in frigid upstate ny.

[Mblake1981]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Immigration_and_Nationality_Act_of_1965

[starkind]

lots and lots of schiz (not at u mblake)

[Mblake1981]

https://i.imgur.com/OrVQNpj.png

[Horza]

Can you believe these filthy, stinking immigrants? I wonder why so few of them vote GOP.

[Jibartik]

Can you believe these filthy, stinking immigrants? I wonder why so few of them vote GOP.

I think he meant people getting payed illegal wages under the table and having no real protections at the work site.

But fuck all that because borders are colonialism!

[Mblake1981]

Can you believe these filthy, stinking immigrants? I wonder why so few of them vote GOP.

Can you believe these filthy, stinking cellfarm managers? I wonder why the tricks are so few.

[Horza]

I think he meant people getting payed illegal wages under the table and having no real protections at the work site.

That explains why he linked the Immigration and Nationality Act of 1965, paste eating friend.

[Mblake1981]

That explains why he linked the Immigration and Nationality Act of 1965, paste eating friend.

Demographics

[Horza]

Demographics

https://i.imgur.com/izJLcHY.png

[Mblake1981]

https://i.imgur.com/izJLcHY.png

I am not defending that, sorry Cellfarmer, try again. I'm a country boy but you will never find me protesting.

[unsunghero]

https://i.imgur.com/izJLcHY.png

Normally I don’t like to make fun based on appearance, but…here’s Antifa

[Elizondo]

Can you believe these filthy, stinking immigrants? I wonder why so few of them vote GOP.

https://theliberalpatriot.substack.com/p/the-democrats-hispanic-voter-problem-dfc

The Democrats’ Hispanic Voter Problem

The Democrats are steadily losing ground with Hispanic voters. The seriousness of this problem tends to be underestimated in Democratic circles for a couple of reasons: (1) they don’t realize how big the shift is; and (2) they don’t realize how thoroughly it undermines the most influential Democratic theory of the case for building their coalition.

Turning to the nature and size of recent Hispanic shifts against the Democrats—it’s not as bad as you think, it’s worse.

[Ooloo]

Can you believe these filthy, stinking immigrants? I wonder why so few of them vote GOP.

Many legal immigrants do vote GOP.

Why do they do that? Walk yourself through it logically.

[Jibartik]

Im sure most people fleeing socialist countries are going to listen to this person about how they should vote for socialism:

https://i.imgur.com/I6Sw3Rx.png

But it's nice to think that libs think every illegal immigrant is here to vote for handouts lol

[Horza]

Whatever you paste eaters say, but if immigrants were voting Republican then Trump wouldn't have lost so badly.

[Mblake1981]

Whatever you paste eaters say, but if immigrants were voting Republican then Trump wouldn't have lost so badly.

81 million Pony voters were all BIDEN's (tricks really think this)

[Jibartik]

Whatever you paste eaters say, but if immigrants were voting Republican then Trump wouldn't have lost so badly.

Fact check: Record breaking 159 million people voted in the US general election

51% vs 49%

[Ooloo]

Jib with the logic.

It is mathematically impossible for horza's assertion to be true lol

[Jibartik]

There's only 149 million citizens over 18 in this country probably lol

[Jibartik]

you just said he lost badly and it turns out its 49/51 from a record shattering fly by the seat of your pants election. That's all were talking about here.

CNN this morning said 2022 began exactly like 2021 so great work btw on that win lol

[Horza]

you just said he lost badly and it turns out its 49/51 from a record shattering fly by the seat of your pants election. That's all were talking about here.

306 to 232 is actually what you're thinking about, paste eater.

[Ooloo]

306 to 232 is actually what you're thinking about, paste eater.

Lol. Now the electoral college is good?

[Jibartik]

I forgot horza worships the state and all of its vatican like rituals.

He's right, 49/51 is actually more like 20/80 when you run it through our amazing system.

[Horza]

I forgot horza worships the state and all of its vatican like rituals.

He's right, 49/51 is actually more like 20/80 when you run it through our amazing system.

Honestly, 20/80 sounds about right to me for your diaper candidate's odds in the 2024 election.

[Elizondo]

Whatever you paste eaters say, but if immigrants were voting Republican then Trump wouldn't have lost so badly.

lol @ believing 81M peepz voted for Brandon

[TheBardo]

lol @ believing 81M peepz voted for Brandon

lay off the horse paste kids or you might end up like this guy

[Elizondo]

lay off the horse paste kids or you might end up like this guy

Nom Nom Nom

Mmm horse pasta! Keeps the DNA nice and clean.

I dunno what's more pathetic. thinkin you were only gonna need 1 jab and never have to wear a mask again or that 81m phantom peepz voted for ole Joey

[Ooloo]

In such a large election there was obviously some amount of fraud, it is inevitable. Whether or not it's enough to change the outcome is the pertinent question, but let's be honest we don't fucking know, and never will. And that cuts both ways. Maybe dem districts cheated more in 2020, maybe republican districts cheated more in 2016. Speculating with any kind of certainty in either direction is kind of retarded for any layman. The thing is, the dem line on 2020 is that it was the "most secure election in history" which is just patently absurd. Like, we get it that politicians lie, but that's just such an egregious lie. Simple logic tells you that couldn't be true.

[Horza]

In such a large election there was obviously some amount of fraud, it is inevitable. Whether or not it's enough to change the outcome is the pertinent question, but let's be honest we don't fucking know, and never will. And that cuts both ways. Maybe dem districts cheated more in 2020, maybe republican districts cheated more in 2016. Speculating with any kind of certainty in either direction is kind of retarded for any layman. The thing is, the dem line on 2020 is that it was the "most secure election in history" which is just patently absurd. Like, we get it that politicians lie, but that's just such an egregious lie. Simple logic tells you that couldn't be true.

That was actually a Trump appointee who said it was the "most secure election in history" hth

[Elizondo]

In such a large election there was obviously some amount of fraud, it is inevitable. Whether or not it's enough to change the outcome is the pertinent question, but let's be honest we don't fucking know, and never will. And that cuts both ways. Maybe dem districts cheated more in 2020, maybe republican districts cheated more in 2016. Speculating with any kind of certainty in either direction is kind of retarded for any layman. The thing is, the dem line on 2020 is that it was the "most secure election in history" which is just patently absurd. Like, we get it that politicians lie, but that's just such an egregious lie. Simple logic tells you that couldn't be true.

sorry man

when orange super prez shocked the world it was 4 years of 'russians hacked the election' with fake dossiers, sham special councils and kangaroo congressional hearings. they made that bed. they can sleep in it. prez poopy pants is not legit.

it doesn't matter what can be proven. who cares. the accusation is enough and polling shows besides the kool-aids dems, most peepz know something fishy went on and i'm not talkin about the smell emanatin from heels up drawers.

[Ooloo]

That was actually a Trump appointee who said it was the "most secure election in history" hth

Haha okay, and which democrat disagreed?

[Jibartik]

we talking about the time the baby killing demorats couped america with a fraudlant election I'd like to see democucks come up with anything that will stick as well as that does for the next 100 years.

[Trexller]

Every horrible thing that ever happened to America had the democrat party behind it.

Prove me wrong. No really, actually try. Every war, every depression, every major social upheaval.

Democrats.

But before you post your perceived victory, look deeper. If you didn't find the democrat, then you suck at research.

[Gravydoo II]

"it doesn't matter what can be proven. who cares. the accusation is enough"

In that case, rape daddy cheated and STILL lost.

I solved the election "theft". The accusation is enough, he said. You dont need evidence. If I FEEL (like my pussy ass loser emotions told me Im not a loser or on the team of losers) so I won!

You're the party is FEELINGS. Fuck your feelings, pussy. Your rape daddy ate shit when he crashed and burned at the polls. Hes the big dick that cant get hard. Just like you.

[Homesteaded]

Gravy talks a lot about dicks.

[Gravydoo II]

I cant even remember which one you are and you remember that about me? Obsessed much..?

[Reiwa]

Every horrible thing that ever happened to America had the democrat party behind it.

Prove me wrong. No really, actually try. Every war, every depression, every major social upheaval.

Democrats.

But before you post your perceived victory, look deeper. If you didn't find the democrat, then you suck at research.

The Cross of Gold speech

Teapot Dome

Bonus Army

Bretton Woods

[Elizondo]

"it doesn't matter what can be proven. who cares. the accusation is enough"

In that case, rape daddy cheated and STILL lost.

I solved the election "theft". The accusation is enough, he said. You dont need evidence. If I FEEL (like my pussy ass loser emotions told me Im not a loser or on the team of losers) so I won!

You're the party is FEELINGS. Fuck your feelings, pussy. Your rape daddy ate shit when he crashed and burned at the polls. Hes the big dick that cant get hard. Just like you.

Bro even if we had video of dirty dems feeding the same ballots over and over in the machine you'd still post the same berger nonsense

oh wait, we do have video of that lol

[Gravydoo II]

Weird how the audits didnt find anything.
Those audits..
How did all that turn out?

So you got the evidence but nobody will listen to you, huh? How does that feel to be ignored like that? Nobody will listen to your great "evidence" you got from "patriotnewsfeedrepublicantruthnetwork.christ" LOLOLOL

[Gravydoo II]

Every horrible thing that ever happened to America had the democrat party behind it.

Prove me wrong. No really, actually try. Every war, every depression, every major social upheaval.

Democrats.

But before you post your perceived victory, look deeper. If you didn't find the democrat, then you suck at research.

When they leave out the part in 1960's when all the evil democrats turned into the GOP.
There was a process that I prefer to call the “Great Sorting” that really started when the “Dixiecrats” ran their own candidate in opposition to Harry Truman in 1948 and was essentially completed with Nixon’s 1968 “Southern strategy”. Both parties became much more ideologically homogeneous during that period almost entirely for reasons having to do with race and civil rights. The odd thing is that the smaller wing within each party in 1948 was the dominant force in 1968. The Civil Rights Act of 1964 is often cited as the precipitating event, but in truth it was more of a “last straw” that was more sharply divided along regional lines than party lines. Northern Democrats, led by Hubert Humphrey, were a major force in its passage while the relatively few Southern Republicans were uniformly opposed to it. Meanwhile, the Republican party platform went from having a long (~1200 words) section on civil rights in 1960 to a paragraph (~300 words) in 1964 to no mention of the issue at all in 1968.


Dohhhhhhhhhh... So its really the same people, rebranded. Think of it more geographically then political. Its always from the same region, same people. The southern part of the country has always been the most evil, insane, and killed millions of black people over the years through slavery. Then the civil war. All on the part of the southern states. The takers. The welfare states. The trash with their cup, begging for government hand outs cause their state is a 3rd world hell hole. Americas losers, the south.

[Duik]

Repubs originally opposed the Royal Family. That was the point of the whole Civil War. Correct?
Now yas want King TrumpOrSomeOtherFucktard so yas can do what yas want YeaHaw guns-a-blazin southern YeaHaw.
My Erection Was Stolen!#!
There's A Storm(y) A Comin'. No one cares about storms anymore, Katrina, wait what.
Mrs Clinton "forgave" the husband who "did not have sexual relations with that woman". Dont underestimate the affect it had on voters from the Democrat side. They tend to vote concience.
Trump is likely a swinger so of course he got the swing vote!
I think imma genius, and stable to boot.
Please, nobody read this.

[Trexller]

When they leave out the part in 1960's when all the evil democrats turned into the GOP.
There was a process that I prefer to call the “Great Sorting” that really started when the “Dixiecrats” ran their own candidate in opposition to Harry Truman in 1948 and was essentially completed with Nixon’s 1968 “Southern strategy”. Both parties became much more ideologically homogeneous during that period almost entirely for reasons having to do with race and civil rights. The odd thing is that the smaller wing within each party in 1948 was the dominant force in 1968. The Civil Rights Act of 1964 is often cited as the precipitating event, but in truth it was more of a “last straw” that was more sharply divided along regional lines than party lines. Northern Democrats, led by Hubert Humphrey, were a major force in its passage while the relatively few Southern Republicans were uniformly opposed to it. Meanwhile, the Republican party platform went from having a long (~1200 words) section on civil rights in 1960 to a paragraph (~300 words) in 1964 to no mention of the issue at all in 1968.


Dohhhhhhhhhh... So its really the same people, rebranded. Think of it more geographically then political. Its always from the same region, same people. The southern part of the country has always been the most evil, insane, and killed millions of black people over the years through slavery. Then the civil war. All on the part of the southern states. The takers. The welfare states. The trash with their cup, begging for government hand outs cause their state is a 3rd world hell hole. Americas losers, the south.

yeah thats true they will always work for the party that will push their interests. Historically its always someone with a (D) next to their name. Ideologies change for sure, but the shittiest of the shit always ends up (D)

still don't understand why you make your kids call you rape daddy tho

[Elizondo]

Weird how the audits didnt find anything.
Those audits..
How did all that turn out?

So you got the evidence but nobody will listen to you, huh? How does that feel to be ignored like that? Nobody will listen to your great "evidence" you got from "patriotnewsfeedrepublicantruthnetwork.christ" LOLOLOL

bro the polls indicate people are listening

majority of voters think there were shenanigans. even 40% of dems lol

[Horza]

Gravy talks a lot about dicks.

Do you really think we want to go on and on about your raging boner for a loser in an big diaper?

[Trexller]

Do you really think we want to go on and on about your raging boner for a loser in an big diaper?

dude you're the one with the raging boner for joe biden

the fuck you talkin about

go get hit by a truck or otherwise meet your end

[Gravydoo II]

bro the polls indicate people are listening

majority of voters think there were shenanigans. even 40% of dems lol


"majority of voters" maybe trump voters, aka the losers. So the people who were brainwashed by a rapist criminal believe that he didnt lose the presidency by 8,000,000 votes.

HHHHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHHA

[Trexller]

"majority of voters" maybe trump voters, aka the losers. So the people who were brainwashed by a rapist criminal believe that he didnt lose the presidency by 8,000,000 votes.

HHHHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHHA

where was it proven in a court of law that donald trump committed rape?

also, why do you touch your children while they sleep?

[Botten]

bro the polls indicate people are listening

majority of voters think there were shenanigans. even 40% of dems lol

Elizondo is telling us all what his Facebook and Kinfolk all 'thinking' again.

The actual sad fact of the matter the largest known voter fraud in the US was committed by a NC Republican (https://www.npr.org/2019/07/30/746800630/north-carolina-gop-operative-faces-new-felony-charges-that-allege-ballot-fraud) found to have tampered with about 900 ballots.

And before you cry fake... the republican himself pleaded GUILTY (https://thehill.com/homenews/state-watch/559508-north-carolina-political-operative-pleads-guilty-to-ballot-fraud)


.

[Trexller]

largest known voter fraud

pussy ass bitch go stand next to horza

[Jibartik]

im watching this infowars show lol and alex jones is constnatly talking about globalists and their vax drugs, and everyone of his advertisments is like, some kind of pill lol

https://i.imgur.com/H7kVVum.png

its like, watch the show > get talked out of going to doctor > continently offered a bunch of medicines

its worth it for these headlines tho: CNN Guest Claims ‘Let’s Go Brandon’ Chant ‘Fundamentally About Insurrection’

cnn same thing as infowars but its watch cnn > get talked into fearing grandma > bend knee

[Trexller]

theres probably a really short list of companies that want their brand associated with alex jones.

even an alt-right psycho like me wouldn't touch him with a 10 foot pole

[Jibartik]

theres probably a really short list of companies that want their brand associated with alex jones.

and im sure theyre like, bro they are all sick they buy our shit like crazy, even if its water with an eye dropper and we call it LUNG plus lol

[Trexller]

and im sure theyre like, bro they are all sick they buy our shit like crazy, even if its water with an eye dropper and we call it LUNG plus lol

they'll all be broke after assuming that all conservatives are idiots

[Jibartik]

i guess its not unlike cnn or fox or msnbc all their comercials are drugs.

maybe its only old people watch the news (and horza he loves tucker)

[Botten]

pussy ass bitch go stand next to horza

Nothing riles up Trumptards more than facts they can’t easily disprove with their opinions and fakenews. For crying out loud, it is the largest known Republican voter fraud because of the guilty plea from the criminal. You talk about needing a court case and proof the law was broken and whine about it when it is given. Blame your own party.

[Trexller]

Nothing riles up Trumptards more than facts they can’t easily disprove with their opinions and fakenews. For crying out loud, it is the largest known Republican voter fraud because of the guilty plea from the criminal. You talk about needing a court case and proof the law was broken and whine about it when it is given. Blame your own party.

no seriously, do the world a favor and get hit by a truck

[Horza]

no seriously, do the world a favor and get hit by a truck

"Go kill yourself (anyone who disagrees about politics with me)."

One diaper-wearing septuagenarian loses an election and these paste eaters lose their minds.

[Mblake1981]

"Go kill yourself (anyone who disagrees about politics with me)."

One diaper-wearing septuagenarian loses an election and these paste eaters lose their minds.

dRumph lost stupid

[Mblake1981]

If you are in the mood to watch something disrespectful.

aVblcNwajkI

[Botten]

It really looks like the GOP are lashing out everywhere as they lose. Refusing to seat a democrat in PA after a certified election. Screaming in session on the floor of the PA senate that “Mail in ballots” are illegal ballots. This Trump all over again.

The PA GOP controlled senate are instead saying that there must be an investigation into the vote before the democrat is seated. But that isn’t how PA law works. The Democrat must be seated WHILE the investigation.

GOP are acting childish.

[Homesteaded]

GOP will whip some ass in 22, 24 and 26.

Liberal policies are ruining America and the common folk are finally waking up.

[Reiwa]

It really looks like the GOP are lashing out everywhere as they lose. Refusing to seat a democrat in PA after a certified election. Screaming in session on the floor of the PA senate that “Mail in ballots” are illegal ballots. This Trump all over again.

The PA GOP controlled senate are instead saying that there must be an investigation into the vote before the democrat is seated. But that isn’t how PA law works. The Democrat must be seated WHILE the investigation.

GOP are acting childish.

Act 77 decision is still pending in PASC.

[Knowledge]

Dems are gonna get their asses kicked the next 6 years

Every cop in America votes Republican. Dems want their jobs gone.

#DefundtheDNC

[Gravydoo II]

Ken Paxton lied about the elections in texas. He said there was SO MUCH FRAUD! So much ballot harvesting! How come you guys didnt post this when the judge threw out his politically motivated lawsuit???

https://www.expressnews.com/news/local/article/Judge-dismisses-Ken-Paxton-s-case-accusing-16734920.php

Look they still have it up on their page how they arrested Ramirez for winning his election.
https://www.texasattorneygeneral.gov/news/releases/ag-paxtons-law-enforcement-arrest-round

They said he committed all this fraud, they didnt present a shred of evidence. Naturally the judge threw it out because there was ZERO evidence at all, even after arresting and charging the guy. He had a guy arrested for winning then charged him with a crime that didnt happen.

The GOP is full of pussy ass ho's. Nothin but little cunts who cry when they dont get their way. Look at em all, crying. They lost and they cant accept that nobody likes their pussy ass policies and bullshit.

[Gravydoo II]

Someone tell me one GOP policy.

[unsunghero]

I love how they claim in Act77 in PA that mail in voting makes voting “more secure”

Anyone with a brain knows that’s ridiculous. You could try to argue that it is “just as secure” as in person voting (which is a stretch), but I cannot find any logical argument how mailing in a vote is “more secure” than having one’s identity checked at a polling station

[Mblake1981]

The GOP is full of pussy ass ho's. Nothin but little cunts who cry when they dont get their way. Look at em all, crying.
They lost and they cant accept that nobody likes their pussy ass policies and bullshit.

Thanks for that blinding insight, Patriam.

5'6 rockets come up short. (https://www.reuters.com/lifestyle/science/iran-space-launch-fails-put-payloads-into-orbit-official-says-2021-12-31/)

Iran's space launch on Thursday failed to put its three payloads into orbit after the rocket was unable to reach the required speed, a defence ministry spokesman said in remarks carried on state television on Friday.

The attempted launch, which came as indirect U.S.-Iran talks take place in Austria to try to salvage a 2015 nuclear deal, drew criticism from the United States, Germany and France.

[Homesteaded]

I love how they claim in Act77 in PA that mail in voting makes voting “more secure”

Anyone with a brain knows that’s ridiculous. You could try to argue that it is “just as secure” as in person voting (which is a stretch), but I cannot find any logical argument how mailing in a vote is “more secure” than having one’s identity checked at a polling station

There enough morons who just believe what they’re told. Folks like Gravy/Horza carry water for these tactics because they grew up poor and we’re told to hate Republicans because it’s the party of rich people. Meanwhile their lineage withers on the vine watered with Mountain Dew and oxy.

No one with a brain believes the 2020 election measures were required. It’s laughable to claim it was “more” secure. Dems going down hard. Fuck you Gravyboy, fuck you Horza. Your kind represent the worst of society and the decline of man. You are the problem. The ubermensch isn’t achievable, you were duped. Seek Christ and his teachings.

[unsunghero]

Even mail in voting still requires someone to register as a voter, then fill out a form in pen and mail it

These two steps still technically disincentivize people to vote, and thus are unconstitutional. What if someone doesn’t want to fill out a form? What if someone doesn’t own a pen?

I think we should move towards “say in voting”, where all you need to do to vote is just say out loud the candidate you want to vote for. Then we can ultimately move to “think in voting”, where someone doesn’t have to make the effort to say anything and can just spend a moment thinking about who they want to vote for

Then we will have reached peak voting numbers and our elections will be more secure than they’ve ever been. I can only hope we can reach such a utopia in my lifetime

[Gravydoo II]

There enough morons who just believe what they’re told. Folks like Gravy/Horza carry water for these tactics because they grew up poor and we’re told to hate Republicans because it’s the party of rich people. Meanwhile their lineage withers on the vine watered with Mountain Dew and oxy.

No one with a brain believes the 2020 election measures were required. It’s laughable to claim it was “more” secure. Dems going down hard. Fuck you Gravyboy, fuck you Horza. Your kind represent the worst of society and the decline of man. You are the problem. The ubermensch isn’t achievable, you were duped. Seek Christ and his teachings.


My father worked for maritrans as a chief engineer. He was making 2500 a week in the 90's... So... what were we again?
Does it make you mad that I had a honda odyssey as a kid?

[Mblake1981]

where someone doesn’t have to make the effort to say anything and can just spend a moment thinking about who they want to vote for

..someone is trespassing.

[racks shotgun thoughts]

[Gravydoo II]

Oh and if republicans stopped cheating in elections, we wouldnt even need election security. Please point to ALL the democrats who cheated. Then, how many GOP votes were fraudulent? More than one? Get rid of the entire party, they are cheaters.

[Mblake1981]

My father worked for maritrans as a chief engineer. He was making 2500 a week in the 90's... So... what were we again?
Does it make you mad that I had a honda odyssey as a kid?

I thought you were knee capping fellow middle easterners back home with an AK47.

[Jibartik]

Please point to ALL the democrats who cheated.

https://www.nationalreview.com/news/biden-administration-quietly-flies-illegal-immigrants-to-new-york-in-middle-of-night-report/

[nostalgiaquest]

Why isn’t Election Day a national holiday?

[Reiwa]

Even mail in voting still requires someone to register as a voter, then fill out a form in pen and mail it

These two steps still technically disincentivize people to vote, and thus are unconstitutional. What if someone doesn’t want to fill out a form? What if someone doesn’t own a pen?

I think we should move towards “say in voting”, where all you need to do to vote is just say out loud the candidate you want to vote for. Then we can ultimately move to “think in voting”, where someone doesn’t have to make the effort to say anything and can just spend a moment thinking about who they want to vote for

Then we will have reached peak voting numbers and our elections will be more secure than they’ve ever been. I can only hope we can reach such a utopia in my lifetime

Only voter ID for first timers in PA. Can do it with a utility bill.

[Homesteaded]

Why isn’t Election Day a national holiday?

100%

[Gravydoo II]

I thought you were knee capping fellow middle easterners back home with an AK47.

ok you need to stop and google honda odyssey. That fucking go-kart was so badass.

[Gravydoo II]

https://www.nationalreview.com/news/biden-administration-quietly-flies-illegal-immigrants-to-new-york-in-middle-of-night-report/

hilary had a baby with an alien thats a racist, too.

[Mblake1981]

Why isn’t Election Day a national holiday?

What is holy about voting? :)

[Jibartik]

hilary had a baby with an alien

and she facilitated it

https://i.imgur.com/MiE8mva.png

[Mblake1981]

ok you need to stop and google honda odyssey. That fucking go-kart was so badass.

Could it beat a camel in a drag race?

[Gravy thinks its a mini van.. same with the Pilot]

[Homesteaded]

My father worked for maritrans as a chief engineer. He was making 2500 a week in the 90's... So... what were we again?
Does it make you mad that I had a honda odyssey as a kid?

Oh so you’re just an edgelord who is ashamed of your privileged upbringing. Instead of taking meaningful action you chose to spout hate towards people who disagree with you. Which means you are a complete soy boy bitch.

[Mblake1981]

What is holy about voting? :)

Worship the state?

[Jibartik]

Good point there.

It's ok though they dont need anymore of those long cons blake, we're at the end of the rope.

[unsunghero]

Only voter ID for first timers in PA. Can do it with a utility bill.

Ya, same I’ve heard in places like CA, from their site:

“However, if you are voting for the first time after registering to vote by mail and did not provide your driver license number, California identification number or the last four digits of your social security number on your registration form, you may be asked to show a form of identification when you go to the polls. In this case, be sure to bring identification with you to your polling place or include a copy of it with your vote-by-mail ballot. A copy of a recent utility bill, the sample ballot booklet you received from your county elections office or another document sent to you by a government agency are examples of acceptable forms of identification. Other acceptable forms of identification include your passport, driver license, official state identification card, or student identification card showing your name and photograph”

https://www.sos.ca.gov/elections/voting-resources/voting-california/what-bring


Of course it’s illegal to vote illegally. It’s also illegal to enter the country illegally. Somehow I doubt CA investigates or prosecutes either infraction, and I can guess the reason why they don’t. But that’s just me with my tinfoil hat

[Jibartik]

Well, im just glad I can do that important thing of voting for jaba or dead corpse who both work for same vampires.

[Mblake1981]

You would have impressed me more Gravy if you claimed to have a TRX250R.

abRMy_YpZBE

[Gravydoo II]

Oh so you’re just an edgelord who is ashamed of your privileged upbringing. Instead of taking meaningful action you chose to spout hate towards people who disagree with you. Which means you are a complete soy boy bitch.

^^^^ Hes mad he was riding a 10 speed. ^^^^

Dont get mad because my dad wasnt a drunk loser like yours. He did it all as a proud atheist, too. He told me as a child "religion is for weak minded people. Its for people who are afraid of the world..". I'll never forget that.

Awhhhhh you mad your daddy was too afraid to go make real money for his family?

[unsunghero]

ok you need to stop and google honda odyssey. That fucking go-kart was so badass.

Definitely better than my grandma’s Toyota Cressida wagon which had 250k miles, no AC (in AZ), and no functioning radio/speakers

Sadly it wasn’t until I got a F150 truck that I got in an accident that totaled it. Although I still say it’s a safe bet to assume teens WILL total their first car, so give them something shitty

[Mblake1981]

^^^^ Hes mad he was riding a 10 speed. ^^^^

Dont get mad because my dad wasnt a drunk loser like yours. He did it all as a proud atheist, too. He told me as a child "religion is for weak minded people. Its for people who are afraid of the world..". I'll never forget that.

Awhhhhh you mad your daddy was too afraid to go make real money for his family?

That's why you moved to America, so your sons could date 10/10 blondes and have blonde haired kids.

[in theory, that is]

[Mblake1981]

Definitely better than my grandma’s Toyota Cressida wagon which had 250k miles, no AC (in AZ), and no functioning radio/speakers

Sadly it wasn’t until I got a F150 truck that I got in an accident that totaled it. Although I still say it’s a safe bet to assume teens WILL total their first car, so give them something shitty

Gravy got ya.

Note: The honda pilot also started here before it was a chic SUV.
the 80s my dude.

0JFM5PDzL7Y

[Gravydoo II]

You would have impressed me more Gravy if you claimed to have a TRX250R.

abRMy_YpZBE

One christmas my dad and mom got my brother and I a honda 70 three wheeler. Then my aunt left her "big red" three wheeler when she moved out of state a few years later. I was too little to care what engine it had it was like 2 feet taller than the 70 and I couldnt drive it very fast because i was barely in control of the shit at like 11.. As you can imagine, someone bout died on it and we got rid of it. Drunk family friends when BBQ's with oysters and going muddin after eating and getting shitty. My moms side of the family was like, southern white people. Mud trucks and ATV's..

[Mblake1981]

Nice story, Patriam.

Starkind also claimed to be a rural redneck once.

[Gravydoo II]

Definitely better than my grandma’s Toyota Cressida wagon which had 250k miles, no AC (in AZ), and no functioning radio/speakers

Sadly it wasn’t until I got a F150 truck that I got in an accident that totaled it. Although I still say it’s a safe bet to assume teens WILL total their first car, so give them something shitty

If you still had that car I would give you 5k for it right now holy fuck that wagon... I didnt even know cressidas came in wagons. Imagine that shit like 2 inches off the ground on some 19's, blacked out tint and buff that brown to a shine.. omg.

[Gravydoo II]

I'm from south FL... please point to the civilized part in the 1980s in saint lucie county. Like, show me where the big liberal city I came from. I'm from White City. Population 4400.

Do you even know where that is? Look it up. I dont live in the WC anymore but god damn, I did for 27 years.

[Mblake1981]

If you still had that car I would give you 5k for it right now holy fuck that wagon... I didnt even know cressidas came in wagons. Imagine that shit like 2 inches off the ground on some 19's, blacked out tint and buff that brown to a shine.. omg.

look even more gay than it already does.

https://i.imgur.com/v0Ze9wO.jpg

[Gravydoo II]

What are you gonna do with a 7.5" tire?
not go fast. lol

[unsunghero]

If you still had that car I would give you 5k for it right now holy fuck that wagon... I didnt even know cressidas came in wagons. Imagine that shit like 2 inches off the ground on some 19's, blacked out tint and buff that brown to a shine.. omg.

Lol no it’s long since gone but it did last a long time, good old Toyota reliability

It’s brakes were almost too good, so while it wasn’t lowered or tinted, my friend and I discovered that if we just pumped the brakes at a light, the entire front end of the car would bounce, almost completely off the ground, as if we had hydraulics. We used it to get the attention of countless numbers of teen girls at intersections lol

[Mblake1981]

What are you gonna do with a 7.5" tire?
not go fast. lol

Gotta make it to the rainbow club quick.

.. no, burnouts would be nice, and trying
to get the brakes to work before I die.

[Gravydoo II]

Gotta make it to the rainbow club quick.

.. no, burnouts would be nice, and trying
to get the brakes to work before I die.

do yourself a favor and go get some cooper cobras or goodyears in like 295 or 305. Make that bitch dangerous in the rain. It will be way more fun. Dont go all crazy with like nitto invo or R888 or some shit. Even with a 350 it will still make the smoke. Redlines suck I know they are the OG period tire but come on man.. coker tire is a fucking rip off, too.

[Mblake1981]

do yourself a favor and go get some cooper cobras or goodyears in like 295 or 305. Make that bitch dangerous in the rain. It will be way more fun. Dont go all crazy with like nitto invo or R888 or some shit. Even with a 350 it will still make the smoke. Redlines suck I know they are the OG period tire but come on man..

Never be as cool as redlines.

[Gravydoo II]

Never be as old as redlines.

[Gravydoo II]

Lol no it’s long since gone but it did last a long time, good old Toyota reliability

It’s brakes were almost too good, so while it wasn’t lowered or tinted, my friend and I discovered that if we just pumped the brakes at a light, the entire front end of the car would bounce, almost completely off the ground, as if we had hydraulics. We used it to get the attention of countless numbers of teen girls at intersections lol

Thats awesome. I wish I had a toyota like that as a kid. That double wiper in the back? I had a 1996 mercury sable with the big solid front headlight. Like the whole grill was a headlight. Digital dash, like a fighter jet! The shit blew up on the road side so this mechanic dude i knew scooped it up. He shaved the heads at his house, valve job, secret ford stuff, raises the compression of the engine so this bitch is snappy now. You could hear the pistons quench against the heads. That bitch was snappy. Undefeated in neighborhood drag races. Good memories... Oh and my current toyota, if i hope on the brakes like that, the front end wont lift off but it unload the suspension bouncing.

[Mblake1981]

i ID as shitty brakes, bad suspension, sketchy tires with an overpowered engine

[Ooloo]

Quick sidebar: Is Don't Look Up any good or is it preachy hollywood lib propaganda?

[Gravydoo II]

i ID as shitty brakes, bad suspension, sketchy tires with an overpowered engine

How over powered? Like you're gonna make the 12 bolt sing on the first launch? Man tell us about it. I dont judge cars. I didnt make fun of your personage AT ALL in that image because on some level i respect what you did there. That belongs in a junk yard by all measures but its still here and you're taking care of it. People today will never know a machine that kinda wants to kill you can be a lot of fun. Keep it alive. Dont wreck it. Get bigger tires lol.

[unsunghero]

Quick sidebar: Is Don't Look Up any good or is it preachy hollywood lib propaganda?

Seems like it. From a critic review: “As a satire on corporate greed, media ethics and celebrity culture it's pretty limp”

Man, I can’t wait for more lectures on corporate greed, because that’s never been done before. Media ethics is interesting though

[Gravydoo II]

Sounds like they tried to make idiocrasy without being sued..?

[Mblake1981]

How over powered? Like you're gonna make the 12 bolt sing on the first launch? Man tell us about it. I dont judge cars. I didnt make fun of your personage AT ALL in that image because on some level i respect what you did there. That belongs in a junk yard by all measures but its still here and you're taking care of it. People today will never know a machine that kinda wants to kill you can be a lot of fun. Keep it alive. Dont wreck it. Get bigger tires lol.

It's good you don't judge but I do, you belong in a whore house :)

[Gravydoo II]

It's good you don't judge but I do, you belong in a whore house :)

I hope you dont die in a twisted wreck in a car with no safety features. Would be sad if you crashed then they had to chop the car up to get you and your family out of the burning wreckage. That would be tragic. =]

[Mblake1981]

I hope you dont die in a twisted wreck in a car with no safety features. Would be sad if you crashed then they had to chop the car up to get you and your family out of the burning wreckage. That would be tragic. =]

Die like a man while you die of rectal bleeds.

[Gravydoo II]

Oh wait... you gotta know a woman to have a family. lol

[Mblake1981]

Go shopping with them, talk fashion.

[Homesteaded]

^^^^ Hes mad he was riding a 10 speed. ^^^^

Dont get mad because my dad wasnt a drunk loser like yours. He did it all as a proud atheist, too. He told me as a child "religion is for weak minded people. Its for people who are afraid of the world..". I'll never forget that.

Awhhhhh you mad your daddy was too afraid to go make real money for his family?

Atheism is the angry side of the religious coin. Sorry your dad didn’t love you.

I grew up on big red three wheelers and a Baja. Your idiot father lived and played in a world created by religion, but he claimed to be outside of it. Clearly angry that your mom wouldn’t perform, or maybe he couldn’t perform. That would explain his anger.

[Jibartik]

Woops we took too long! We are now defenseless. The cornerstone of our military superiority over china is (was) stealth fighters.

F2ZyjafmxOI

[Mblake1981]

CCP claims much..

..but anyway, aren't we all glad to help fund a potential enemy via Wal-Mart and other American stores.

But I mean, if news programs are telling us its true then it must be. Some cool Unreal Engine graphics in the video.

[Jibartik]

This video alone convinced biden that sanctions would be enough if they take taiwan.

[Reiwa]

Woops we took too long! We are now defenseless. The cornerstone of our military superiority over china is (was) stealth fighters.

F2ZyjafmxOI

In what sense is that radar?

[Horza]

There enough morons who just believe what they’re told. Folks like Gravy/Horza carry water for these tactics because they grew up poor and we’re told to hate Republicans because it’s the party of rich people. Meanwhile their lineage withers on the vine watered with Mountain Dew and oxy.

No one with a brain believes the 2020 election measures were required. It’s laughable to claim it was “more” secure. Dems going down hard. Fuck you Gravyboy, fuck you Horza. Your kind represent the worst of society and the decline of man. You are the problem. The ubermensch isn’t achievable, you were duped. Seek Christ and his teachings.

Again, that was a a Trump appointee who said it was the "most secure election in history" and not one of your hated Democrats, paste eater.

[Elizondo]

Nothing riles up Trumptards more than facts they can’t easily disprove with their opinions and fakenews. For crying out loud, it is the largest known Republican voter fraud because of the guilty plea from the criminal. You talk about needing a court case and proof the law was broken and whine about it when it is given. Blame your own party.

botten made up a story about a tube of horse pasta at the movies and then posts nonsense like this without shame

lol

[Ooloo]

Again, that was a a Trump appointee who said it was the "most secure election in history" and not one of your hated Democrats, paste eater.

This is just a technicality. Many democrats *have* been saying that, regardless of who said it first or who coined it, or why.

[Homesteaded]

Again, that was a a Trump appointee who said it was the "most secure election in history" and not one of your hated Democrats, paste eater.

How does this jive with your theory we’re all so into Trump?

[Botten]

botten made up a story about a tube of horse pasta at the movies and then posts nonsense like this without shame

lol

Elizondo I told you if I had realized it was you at the movies I wouldn’t have told the story. Now were you sucking down the apple flavor?

And Elizondo you haven’t posted your opinion or a fakenews site today. You are getting lazy.

[Elizondo]

Elizondo I told you if I had realized it was you at the movies I wouldn’t have told the story. Now were you sucking down the apple flavor?

And Elizondo you haven’t posted your opinion or a fakenews site today. You are getting lazy.

bro it's a MEME

The tube of paste is a MEME. NOT literal you dumb SOB

peepz getting prescribed ot takin the mectin are not using tubes of paste dude

[Mblake1981]

bro it's a MEME

The tube of paste is a MEME. NOT literal you dumb SOB

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[Trexller]

Again, that was a a Trump appointee who said it was the "most secure election in history" and not one of your hated Democrats, paste eater.

so they found some coward schmuck and gave him a duffel bag full of cash

that's all it takes to make anyone do anything.

if I gave you a duffel bag full of cash, you'd campaign trump 2024

[Horza]

so they found some coward schmuck and gave him a duffel bag full of cash

that's all it takes to make anyone do anything.

if I gave you a duffel bag full of cash, you'd campaign trump 2024

Everybody else cheated and your historically unpopular, diaper-wearing candidate didn't just lose badly :D

[Trexller]

Everybody else cheated and your historically unpopular, diaper-wearing candidate didn't just lose badly :D

does he really wear diapers?

also, lets not pretend that politics is actually a thing. They all work for the same hidden lizard king.

also, lets not pretend that for enough money, you'd suck trump's cock.

500,000 should do it. nobody has to know. just you, the orange phallus, and god.

[Gravydoo II]

Atheism is the angry side of the religious coin. Sorry your dad didn’t love you.

I grew up on big red three wheelers and a Baja. Your idiot father lived and played in a world created by religion, but he claimed to be outside of it. Clearly angry that your mom wouldn’t perform, or maybe he couldn’t perform. That would explain his anger.

Jealousy detected. Hope you had fun in church on sunday, singing to your sky daddy. LOLOL you must have looked so silly in your little church outfits. My parents were not into the whole, volunteering their kids to be abused thing, like that happens in every church in america.. lol.

Religion built the ocean the ships ride on too, huh? Which religion, exactly..? Cause I didnt see much religion on the ship, in the ports, or on the ocean. Oh thats right, they dont hire pussies.

[Gravydoo II]

does he really wear diapers?

also, lets not pretend that politics is actually a thing. They all work for the same hidden lizard king.

also, lets not pretend that for enough money, you'd suck trump's cock.

500,000 should do it. nobody has to know. just you, the orange phallus, and god.

dude... just delete this. im doing you a favor.

[Mblake1981]

Jealousy detected. Hope you had fun in church on sunday, singing to your sky daddy. LOLOL you must have looked so silly in your little church outfits. My parents were not into the whole, volunteering their kids to be abused thing, like that happens in every church in america.. lol.

Religion built the ocean the ships ride on too, huh? Which religion, exactly..? Cause I didnt see much religion on the ship, in the ports, or on the ocean. Oh thats right, they dont hire pussies.

https://i.imgur.com/fWwVufL.gif

[Gravydoo II]

So the guy keeps a lot of images of women being abused at the ready.. Thats the most "im alone" thing ive ever seen in my life.

[Trexller]

So the guy keeps a lot of images of women being abused at the ready.. Thats the most "im alone" thing ive ever seen in my life.

gonna go with gravydoo on this one

[Mblake1981]

gonna go with gravydoo on this one

He will meet you at the rainbow club with bells on.

[Trexller]

He will meet you at the rainbow club with bells on.

see thats a major problem in the world today, gravy and I are pretty much ideological opposites, yet if we manage to agree on one thing, one of us is a traitor and the other is gay.

thats how you guarantee that no societal healing and forward movement occurs.

[Mblake1981]

see thats a major problem in the world today, gravy and I are pretty much ideological opposites, yet if we manage to agree on one thing, one of us is a traitor and the other is gay.

thats how you guarantee that no societal healing and forward movement occurs.

lol