the i dont care about politics anymore thread

[Jibartik]

Even Fox News seems to be reporting only on the infrastructure part of the bill, so I really dunno what might have been snuck in there

Republicans have been siphoning off money from our goverment in the form of infrastructure and military spending for 80 years.

The scam is this is not building infrastructure, its not building bridges and roads, its building business infrastructure for companies like nestle and comcast, who use the taxes to build broadband and water pipes with goverment contract, then use those systems to overcharge people they have monopolies on.

It's all bullshit, any democrat that thinks that this is good is just a republican because the parties flipped.

No water for flint in this bill flint will see NO water and these Nike loving democrats are stoked that comcast gets to expand their userbase.

Unsung, if you are an old Regan era republican, this bill is GOOD, if you are a democrat before 2016, then this bill is GEORGE BUSH goverment.

You cant get more trickle down then giving huge payouts to corporations so they can pay people min wage.

[Elizondo]

Why don't you ask the 31 Republicans who voted for the bill? (https://www.npr.org/2021/08/10/1026486578/senate-republican-votes-infrastructure-bill)

More than a tril bein spent and you don't even know where the money goin

so low iq

[Whale biologist]

Even Fox News seems to be reporting only on the infrastructure part of the bill, so I really dunno what might have been snuck in there



https://i.imgur.com/R06ddv1.png

Either those things or the media is still calling it a trilly because reasons.


No water for flint in this bill flint will see NO water

Clean Drinking Water (https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefing-room/statements-releases/2021/07/28/fact-sheet-historic-bipartisan-infrastructure-deal/)

Currently, up to 10 million American households and 400,000 schools and child care centers lack safe drinking water. The deal’s $55 billion investment represents the largest investment in clean drinking water in American history, including dedicated funding to replace lead service lines and the dangerous chemical PFAS (per- and polyfluoroalkyl). It will replace all of the nation’s lead pipes and service lines. From rural towns to struggling cities, the deal invests in water infrastructure across America, including in Tribal Nations and disadvantaged communities that need it most.

[Jibartik]

https://i.imgur.com/R06ddv1.png

Either those things or the media is still calling it a trilly because reasons.



Clean Drinking Water (https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefing-room/statements-releases/2021/07/28/fact-sheet-historic-bipartisan-infrastructure-deal/)

Currently, up to 10 million American households and 400,000 schools and child care centers lack safe drinking water. The deal’s $55 billion investment represents the largest investment in clean drinking water in American history, including dedicated funding to replace lead service lines and the dangerous chemical PFAS (per- and polyfluoroalkyl). It will replace all of the nation’s lead pipes and service lines. From rural towns to struggling cities, the deal invests in water infrastructure across America, including in Tribal Nations and disadvantaged communities that need it most.

50 billion out 9of 1.2 trillion going to clean water.. THIS IS WHY we have to spend 50 billion today, because they spent 0.5% of the bill on water, just like this time, on water last time.

God damn this is the shit bush people would say.

"well here is the text of the bill that says it's great"

Then democrats would be like, yo, you're spending .5% of this bill on the thing you're sayign is great and ignoring the 98% of this shit that is just putting money into corporations bank accounts!

Way to go Bushy boy.

I may be siding with the trumpers, but you're siding with the real enemy, your life long enemy, everything youve believed in is out the window, youve become one of the: Busher's

George bush was right all along, that's all Biden is teaching me.

We will never see the goverment my generation was working towards we leapfrogged it right out of the picture.

[Whale biologist]

50 billion out 9of 1.2 trillion going to clean water.. THIS IS WHY we have to spend 50 billion today, because they spent 0.5% of the bill on water, just like this time, on water last time.

God damn this is the shit bush people would say.

"well here is the text of the bill that says it's great"

Then democrats would be like, yo, you're spending .5% of this bill on the thing you're sayign is great and ignoring the 98% of this shit that is just putting money into corporations bank accounts!

Way to go Bushy boy.

I may be siding with the trumpers, but you're siding with the real enemy, your life long enemy, everything youve believed in is out the window, youve become one of the: Busher's

George bush was right all along, that's all Biden is teaching me.

Ah! New spending (https://www.reuters.com/world/us/whats-bipartisan-us-1-trillion-infrastructure-bill-2021-10-01/)

The legislation is one of President Joe Biden's top domestic priorities and includes $550 billion in new spending, while the rest of the $1 trillion is previously approved funding.

[Elizondo]

50 billion out 9of 1.2 trillion going to clean water.. THIS IS WHY we have to spend 50 billion today, because they spent 0.5% of the bill on water, just like this time, on water last time.

God damn this is the shit bush people would say.

"well here is the text of the bill that says it's great"

Then democrats would be like, yo, you're spending .5% of this bill on the thing you're sayign is great and ignoring the 98% of this shit that is just putting money into corporations bank accounts!

Way to go Bushy boy.

I may be siding with the trumpers, but you're siding with the real enemy, your life long enemy, everything youve believed in is out the window, youve become one of the: Busher's

George bush was right all along, that's all Biden is teaching me.

It's funny to me that all they doin are a bunch of back room deals and greasin each other's pockets with our money just so they can give speeches in front of cameras back slappin themselves like they won the superbowl

nobody knows where any of this money even goin

[Jibartik]

The legislation is one of President Joe Biden's top domestic priorities and includes $550 billion in new spending, while the rest of the $1 trillion is previously approved funding.

I DONT APPROVE OF LOBBIEST APPROVED SPENDING !!!!

Of course they approved nestle and comcast expanding their customer base with billions of goverment contracts.

That was the thing that was wrong with America for our entire lives, and we almost fixed it.

[Jibartik]

nobody knows where any of this money even goin

It's insane the progressives and democrats are the ones who are obfuscating this after 40 years of saying this was what was wrong with reganomics.

[Whale biologist]

I DONT APPROVE OF LOBBIEST APPROVED SPENDING !!!!

Of course they approved nestle and comcast expanding their customer base with billions of goverment contracts.

That was the thing that was wrong with America for our entire lives, and we almost fixed it.

It might be mandatory spending or stuff like the highway funds they kept renewing as they went along trying to pass this.

[Jibartik]

It might be mandatory spending or stuff like the highway funds they kept renewing as they went along trying to pass this.

It might be! But you dont know, and won't know, because it definitely is Maserati's and you damn well know it.

[Trexller]

political winds and party ideals are gonna change, the only constant in politics is that rich people are the only winners.

[Jibartik]

political winds and party ideals are gonna change, the only constant in politics is that rich people are the only winners.

This is so right it's crazy to me, like it's 100% accurate here. It must be so rad to do this for your own proffit, then to watch all the people defend you like you're helping them.

Its like all the repubs we used to roast because they were like, "i could become a billionaire too!"

Now the democrats are like, "The goverment is great now and we haven't changed anything!"

lmao its so sad that there are people on the left that saw all this during past administrations but dont see the parties flipped.

[Elizondo]

my political team gonna spend a trillion dollars and payoff a bunch of lobbyists with money we don't have

3GwjfUFyY6M

[Jibartik]

republican: all I need is for them to give corporations more money and I will get a job and become rich!

democrat: all I need is for them to give corporations more money and we will get jobs and become equal!

Parties FLIPPED!

We should be taking money from these companies and giving it to the poor not taking from the poor and giving it to these companies like we have been your entire lives.

There's no difference between today and 2008 and 2001 and any other time we set ourselves up for another crash.

Both sides are driving the ship with blinders now.

[Whale biologist]

my political team gonna spend a trillion dollars and payoff a bunch of lobbyists with money we don't have

3GwjfUFyY6M

Hey only half of it is new spending! :)

[Jibartik]

The ultimate scam is making the other side think you hate the same fiscal policy that your side is trying to pass so the other side supports it out of spite.

"We need Nike factories in china"
-democrats 1990
-republicans 2000
-democrats 2020

[Knowledge]

LET'S GO BRANDON!

[Jibartik]

Let's go Bannon!

[Whale biologist]

The ultimate scam is making the other side think you hate the same fiscal policy that your side is trying to pass so the other side supports it out of spite.

"We need Nike factories in china"
-democrats 1990
-republicans 2000
-democrats 2020

https://i.imgur.com/bxbAzcr.gif

[Jibartik]

https://i.imgur.com/bxbAzcr.gif

8 years of obama and no water in flint lol

[Whale biologist]

8 years of obama and no water in flint lol

Who knows, maybe there's wall money in there.

Wall not up. :p

[Jibartik]

Well hopefully the end is nigh and we wont have to worry about any of this anyway.

[Trexller]

Well hopefully the end is nigh and we wont have to worry about any of this anyway.

we're not lucky enough

[Jibartik]

yeah afraid we're on this rock just long enough to listen to every last one of them bitch and then it's total darkness for eternity.

[Jibartik]

I am aware that I bitch a lot that's why Im afraid it's the meaning of life.

[Whale biologist]

Porn (https://news.yahoo.com/joe-manchin-won-progressives-folded-040702521.html)

Hardcore porn (https://twitter.com/ryangrim/status/1456807575681474562)

[Jibartik]

rap is hard core now

that one rapper like, "Im gonna let satan fuck me on TV"

then the next rapper like "Im gonna sacrifice 11 people at my next concert"

*slowly hums in auto tune

[Jibartik]

Porn (https://news.yahoo.com/joe-manchin-won-progressives-folded-040702521.html)

Hardcore porn (https://twitter.com/ryangrim/status/1456807575681474562)

haha how funny is that that me and AOC and Talib Kweli agree but on the media the progressives are like this is a win! lol

[Knowledge]

"NASCAR denounces 'Let's go, Brandon' conservative rally cry"

It ain't about YOU, Corporate NASCAR, its about the NASCAR *FANS* you rich dipshits

[Jibartik]

uh oh, they brought out the slave owner tactics at the rap concert https://www.reddit.com/r/ActualPublicFreakouts/comments/qnvp1a/at_least_8_deaths_confirmed_at_travis_scotts/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x&context=3

[Trexller]

"NASCAR denounces 'Let's go, Brandon' conservative rally cry"

It ain't about YOU, Corporate NASCAR, its about the NASCAR *FANS* you rich dipshits

someone, somewhere just got a suitcase of cash, thats all.

[Knowledge]

We don't give a shit if NASCAR execs sleep with Biden every night,

LETS GO BRANDON!

[Trexller]

uh oh, they brought out the slave owner tactics at the rap concert https://www.reddit.com/r/ActualPublicFreakouts/comments/qnvp1a/at_least_8_deaths_confirmed_at_travis_scotts/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x&context=3

yeah ill say it, personal rights should be assigned based on personal intelligence. the more dumb you are, the closer you get to a kennel. there will be some dogs with more rights than some humans, and im totally cool with that

[Horza]

NASCAR is the closest thing this flyover trash has to a cultural legacy lmfao

[Knowledge]

'flyover trash' fill me in on that one baby killa

Military F16 flyovers are trash? You hate the US military?

God Bless NASCAR fans.

[Jibartik]

NASCAR is the closest thing this flyover trash has to a cultural legacy lmfao

https://www.reddit.com/r/PublicFreakout/comments/qo1afh/travis_scott_concert_mirrored_a_zombie_apocalypse/

poetry is for the enlightened

[Trexller]

the Horza_bot just selected the wrong adjective, and should be corrected in the next update.

thank you for using p99 forums.

[Horza]

the Horza_bot just selected the wrong adjective, and should be corrected in the next update.

thank you for using p99 forums.

NPC memes are so 2016, you must all live under rocks in your shitty flyover states.

[Jibartik]

NPC memes are so 2016, you must all live under rocks in your shitty flyover states.

WnzlbyTZsQY

[Elizondo]

poetry is for the enlightened

Roses are red

Violets are Blue

At least the flyover streets

Aren't covered in poo

[Whale biologist]

'flyover trash' fill me in on that one baby killa

Military F16 flyovers are trash? You hate the US military?

God Bless NASCAR fans.

it's dumb they have to pay for it. it should be compulsory for the leagues. :cool:

[Horza]

Roses are red

Violets are Blue

At least the flyover streets

Aren't covered in poo

I hear opioid addiction can cause some serious constipation, flyover boy.

[unsunghero]

Roses are red

Violets are Blue

At least the flyover streets

Aren't covered in poo

Roses are red

Violets are blue

We’re going to have sex now

Because I’m bigger than you

That ones messed up, I know. I used to know a few like that

[Knowledge]

shitty portland and baltimore and Shitcago

[Elizondo]

I hear opioid addiction can cause some serious constipation, flyover boy.

XMmlB_UxR6k

[Jibartik]

I hear opioid addiction can cause some serious constipation, flyover boy.

Yeah in communities that are into art and music and not working that you want to vote without IDs but ok somehow that will make America better.

[Knowledge]

Einstein screwed America out of ever defeating China or Russia.

[Ooloo]

Einstein screwed America out of ever defeating China or Russia.

Why because of the bomb? He also screwed imperial japan out of winning ww2 and ultimately dominating the world, and what that might have entailed. We can't live that alternate reality, because it didn't happen.

[Jibartik]

Einstein screwed America out of ever defeating China or Russia.

Well, considering he was about to discover quantum physics and the Anunnaki or reptoids or something, told him to stop, so he just wrote "spooky action" down and continued with his theory of relativity like it was real.

Knowledge might be right.

:o

[Whale biologist]

Why because of the bomb? He also screwed imperial japan out of winning ww2 and ultimately dominating the world, and what that might have entailed. We can't live that alternate reality, because it didn't happen.

l9ag2x3CS9M

[Horza]

Knowledge might be right.

:o

Goddamn flyover pillheads.

[Jibartik]

Why didnt they just take hawaii? that'd have been so bad ass.

[Trexller]

yeah japan was done even before we put boots on Okinawa, we just needed to "test" the new bombs in the real world, outside of the new mexico desert.

hiroshima was hit by uranium and nagasaki by plutonium. then "centers" - not hospitals - were set up outside the cities to "treat" the test subjects, because no one really understood how they would affect the human body.

This was just a convenient time and location to announce to the world: "We're the Boss now"

[Jibartik]

https://thelibertydaily.com/judge-makes-example-of-jenna-ryan-who-spent-two-minutes-in-capitol-during-mostly-peaceful-protest-on-january-6/

Judge Makes Example of Jenna Ryan Who Spent Two Minutes in Capitol During Mostly Peaceful Protest on January 6

[unsunghero]

yeah japan was done even before we put boots on Okinawa, we just needed to "test" the new bombs in the real world, outside of the new mexico desert.

hiroshima was hit by uranium and nagasaki by plutonium. then "centers" - not hospitals - were set up outside the cities to "treat" the test subjects, because no one really understood how they would affect the human body.

This was just a convenient time and location to announce to the world: "We're the Boss now"

[Jibartik]

biden wants to give illegals money as reparations for trump lmao

https://www.yahoo.com/news/biden-gets-heated-over-proposed-152115632.html

those soldiers he got blown up in Afghanistan though knew what they signed up for lol (also those kids he blew up with a drone? they can ask the taliban for handouts lol!)

[Gravydoo II]

biden wants to give illegals money as reparations for trump lmao

https://www.yahoo.com/news/biden-gets-heated-over-proposed-152115632.html

those soldiers he got blown up in Afghanistan though knew what they signed up for lol (also those kids he blew up with a drone? they can ask the taliban for handouts lol!)

So if you get kidnapped and falsely imprisoned you dont deserve compensation..??? If someone says "here cross this line to sign up for asylum" then says "whoops you under arrest for crossing the border illegally." then takes your family from you, for years, imprisons you and them, you dont deserve shit eh??

Literally how rape daddy admin ran the border. Go read, jib. It was really cruel. Not the mention the sexual assaults of the kids in custody..

When you take the oath, you know you can possibly die. Its made very clear at MEPS and everywhere else. You can die in the military. You can die in war zones, imagine that.

[Gravydoo II]

I love how you guys use dead troops as props for your bullshit. Since you care SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO much about them and their families, I trust you sent some financial relief to all the deceased next of kin/families??

Never, not a buck, ever.

[Jibartik]

I didn't read those posts but I do see you asked a rhetorical question, I'm just gonna go ahead and answer: Yes.

[Trexller]

I love how you guys use dead troops as props for your bullshit. Since you care SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO much about them and their families, I trust you sent some financial relief to all the deceased next of kin/families??

Never, not a buck, ever.

only since you asked so nicely,

since 2013 i've given 1000/year to the wounded warrior project. I've also made donations in other people's names as various gifts.

probably about 11,000 total.

what have you done with your life?

[Jibartik]

Id ask gravy if he gives money to illegals but I know he buys drugs from them every day :o

[Elizondo]

Gravy proof that Brandon Bros will support anything he does no matter how crazy

[Trexller]

Id ask gravy if he gives money to illegals but I know he buys drugs from them every day :o

yeah Gravy definitely ran his mouth off at the wrong place and time today.

likely due to those drugs he purchased 1 mile north of the border.

he'll be quiet for awhile now

[bubur]

Gravy proof that Brandon Bros will support anything he does no matter how crazy

i wish this were true

but out of all of the hundreds of posts in this thread there actually are very few supporting biden. just a lot of negativity and hatred and chatting about trump

there was 1 guy, cassowary, who claimed to actually support biden at the beginning of the thread, but i think he was moreso doing it to antagonize righties. he ended up disappearing or transforming into some other account. he might be dead, dont know

[Whale biologist]

only since you asked so nicely,

since 2013 i've given 1000/year to the wounded warrior project. I've also made donations in other people's names as various gifts.

probably about 11,000 total.

what have you done with your life?

they shouldn't have to rely on donations, it should be a function of the State.

💯

[Trexller]

they shouldn't have to rely on donations, it should be a function of the State.

100 goes here when I edit this

i agree, the VA has been a joke since it's inception.

[Whale biologist]

i wish this were true

but out of all of the hundreds of posts in this thread there actually are very few supporting biden. just a lot of negativity and hatred and chatting about trump

there was 1 guy, cassowary, who claimed to actually support biden at the beginning of the thread, but i think he was moreso doing it to antagonize righties. he ended up disappearing or transforming into some other account. he might be dead, dont know

https://i.imgur.com/8B7Wpu3.png

[Jibartik]

Well I just want to be clear. I dont like Joe Biden.

https://i.imgur.com/WRIF0Z7.png

[bubur]

i like his hairy legs

[Jibartik]

I enjoy this convo but I just had a thought, if covid was created in a lab, is it not safe to say that everyone involved is dead now because how could someone keep that a secret after all this?????

Like nobody is like, "yo I was an analyst and I remember some pretty fucked up wording in some things I was reading"

[bubur]

I enjoy this convo but I just had a thought, if covid was created in a lab, is it not safe to say that everyone involved is dead now because how could someone keep that a secret after all this?????

Like nobody is like, "yo I was an analyst and I remember some pretty fucked up wording in some things I was reading"

doesnt need to be a secret. depressingly easy to hold someone's job and, since its china, life over their head and dissuade them from speaking about it. as long as there isn't any bright star among the endless chaotic stream of shit from the tv, it doesn't matter what anyone says on the internet, even if they claim to be eyewitnesses

and if there is, supernova that star outer wilds style

the lab is probably still operating and doing just about the same type of work

[Jibartik]

yeah, I believe in some wild stuff but if it was more than 30 people in the loop I'm going to have a hard time believing one of them doesn't blab to someone.. But idk china is good at secrets!

[Trexller]

Every so often a major titan is taken out VERY publicly as a warning to the rest of the world.

After that, to keep a conspiracy under a lid you don't need everyone at every level to stay quiet, a strategic division of labor ensures that only a few at the top know whats really going on.

[bubur]

i'll just leave this here

6bdr_2IAJWU

[Jibartik]

https://i.imgur.com/A6stmc7.gif

[Whale biologist]

i'll just leave this here

6bdr_2IAJWU

You need a sandwich

https://i.imgur.com/PkOtHXa.jpg

[bubur]

yeah its p easy to keep secrets. even on a subject we meme about in every poll on this board

i'd be the meaty fluffy pastrami sandwich meat between those boney egg eatin milfs

[unsunghero]

only since you asked so nicely,

since 2013 i've given 1000/year to the wounded warrior project. I've also made donations in other people's names as various gifts.

probably about 11,000 total.

what have you done with your life?

I guess I’ve given a few hundred to them too in my lifetime. i’ve paid $150ish/each for Spartan and Tough Murder (2x) obstacle runs, proceeds going to the Wounded Warrior project

Highly recommend these particular obstacle runs, they’re magical

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=XDDCi72hdu8

[Gatordash]

I enjoy this convo but I just had a thought, if covid was created in a lab, is it not safe to say that everyone involved is dead now because how could someone keep that a secret after all this?????

Like nobody is like, "yo I was an analyst and I remember some pretty fucked up wording in some things I was reading"

Dude how do you not remember that China killed an ophthalmologist because he noticed a few people he was prescribing glasses to had sars like symptoms. Government summoned him to tell him to shut up after he told some people to wear protective gear and when he didn’t the 34 year old doctor ‘died of covid’ days later. If your killing a glasses doctor who is telling his buddies to wear protective gear then you are taking people actually involved in it out too. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-china-51403795

According to Chinese news, he was one of eight people summoned to sign a letter saying he would stop spreading lies. So who knows how many they actually took out.

[Jibartik]

I remember that guys face!

didnt they drag him off an airplane?

[hobart]

"NASCAR denounces 'Let's go, Brandon' conservative rally cry"

It ain't about YOU, Corporate NASCAR, its about the NASCAR *FANS* you rich dipshits

Conservatives don't go chant things in public. Illiberal lefties and mouth-breathing Trumptards do.

[bubur]

cope

[Elizondo]

Old Dude voters still think it's nov 4 2020

[bubur]

if someone says a few nice things about biden and his administration, i'd back off em and maybe support it

go

[Trexller]

I guess I’ve given a few hundred to them too in my lifetime. i’ve paid $150ish/each for Spartan and Tough Murder (2x) obstacle runs, proceeds going to the Wounded Warrior project

Good on you bro! There's alot of military in my family, going back 3 generations to the Korean war.

[Duik]

Hey now, the earth is 4.5 billion years old, and our scientists have, at best, 150 years of measured temperature data.

If that's not solid evidence that we're all gonna die in 12 years, I dont know what is.

Might wanna also think about the Extra Polated data from ice cap core samples as well. You are correct ACTUAL measurements began recently ( relative to earth age) so kudos! But if we gonna ignore that, may as well just say earth is flat, 4500 yrs old and dinosaurs were on the Ark with Noah and Joan.

[bubur]

Might wanna also think about the Extra Polated data from ice cap core samples as well. You are correct ACTUAL measurements began recently ( relative to earth age) so kudos! But if we gonna ignore that, may as well just say earth is flat, 4500 yrs old and dinosaurs were on the Ark with Noah and Joan.

i place myself squarely in the geologist's court. this guy studies rocks and im fucking into it

here's a song for you who don't: x1U1Ue_5kq8

[bubur]

i really like gelena

PbS, primary ore mineral of lead. it's been found in lead content since 3000 BC

https://i.imgur.com/756RNPa.png

[Jibartik]

if someone says a few nice things about biden and his administration, i'd back off em and maybe support it

go

he's smart old man and is great around kids and had quite a carrier, it's not easy to work that hard at any age, his administration I dont really understand at best and maybe that mean's they're smarter than me I'll give em that.

This post is dedicated to that time someone asked the candidates to say something nice about each other, and as usual the guy satan hates actually does, after the "good guy" liberal candidate cant say anything nice about him and she makes a joke about respecting his children, (because she sure as hell wont say she respects him)

pJlnxbO5N2g

look what do you want do you want to pretend the right is really nazi fascist evil jerks or do you want to admit that jesus loves them and donald trump is a biblical figure?

[bubur]

he's smart old man and is great around kids and had quite a carrier, it's not easy to work that hard at any age, his administration I dont really understand at best and maybe that mean's they're smarter than me I'll give em that.

This post is dedicated to that time someone asked the candidates to say something nice about each other, and as usual the guy satan hates actually does, after the "good guy" liberal candidate cant say anything nice about him and she makes a joke about respecting his children, (because she sure as hell wont say she respects him)

pJlnxbO5N2g

look what do you want do you want to pretend the right is really nazi fascist evil jerks or do you want to admit that jesus loves them and donald trump is a biblical figure?

what?

can you sum that up in a few words?

[bubur]

i mean i watched it. it was an incredibly moderate video

i am left unsure what i am suppose to think

[Duik]

i really like gelena

PbS, primary ore mineral of lead. it's been found in lead content since 3000 BC

https://i.imgur.com/756RNPa.png


You seem easily lead.

[Trexller]

Might wanna also think about the Extra Polated data from ice cap core samples as well. You are correct ACTUAL measurements began recently ( relative to earth age) so kudos! But if we gonna ignore that, may as well just say earth is flat, 4500 yrs old and dinosaurs were on the Ark with Noah and Joan.

lol i know all about the antarctic ice cores that have been sampled, the theory is sound - in theory. I remain skeptical of their interpretation. Yeah the ice there is "ancient" there's no dispute there, its "how ancient" and "what other events" were occurring at the time the elevated levels of co2 were in the atmosphere, if a big volcano blows up, the earth is gonna be rich in co2 for a long ass time, if there were a few decades of massive algal blooms, co2 is gonna drop for a long ass time.

I've driven behind a semi-truck. Fossil fuels definitely suck, and companies like exxon had exact data on oil pollution back in the 60s, but sat on it like the tobacco companies did, money beats morals, everytime.

The big deal in my mind is that by 2100 there won't be enough fossil fuels to go around, ppl chant "no blood for oil" now, if we're a fossil fuel reliant society when the wells dry up, the chants will quickly turn to "No nukes for oil".

Basically, there isn't enough coal/oil for us to destroy the planet with, we will destroy each other over the last of it.

the real problem is the switch, I worked in solar energy, and the climate footprint on PVCs is huge, from the manufacturing to the land cost, and PVCs are still very inefficient, so you have to cover hundreds of square miles to collect any "real" energy.

The answer for the future is still nuclear fission. Maybe someday someone will figure out fusion, but not anytime soon they won't, the only self sustaining fusion reactors in the universe are stars, which are really powered by gravity.

For the foreseeable future, fission is our only hope of "cleanish" and sustainable. I get it, radiation bad, but most folks dont know that coal-fired power plants produce more ambient radiation than fission plants. I voted for Trump twice, and even I was like, "wait what, coal?!"

Finland is leading the way in nuclear waste disposal, thats a good sign imo.

[Jibartik]

what?

can you sum that up in a few words?

https://i.imgur.com/4Me5O5E.png

[Jibartik]

i mean i watched it. it was an incredibly moderate video

i am left unsure what i am suppose to think

It's just an example about how trump, is able to authentically complement Hillary, while she is not able to do the same, because he represents everything that is good, and she represents everything that is evil.

[Trexller]

Trump/Hillary clip

I'm either really tired, or that was some heartwarming stuff Jib. Political ninja hillary tried to get in front, and skirted the question deftly, but she gave trump time to think, and that was a bad move, because he came up with a compliment about her, not her kids, and it was a damn good compliment. I would say that about Hillary, if nothing else she is a relentless fighter, and that is respectable.

[Jibartik]

I'm either really tired, or that was some heartwarming stuff Jib. Political ninja hillary tried to get in front, and skirted the question deftly, but she gave trump time to think, and that was a bad move, because he came up with a compliment about her, not her kids, and it was a damn good compliment. I would say that about Hillary, if nothing else she is a relentless fighter, and that is respectable.

well, at best she'd complement your kids and then smile sarcastically at a camera. :o

[Duik]

lol i know all about the antarctic ice cores that have been sampled...

More stuff...

The answer for the future is still nuclear fission. Maybe someday someone will figure out fusion, but not anytime soon they won't, the only self sustaining fusion reactors in the universe are stars, which are really powered by gravity.

For the foreseeable future, fission is our only hope of "cleanish" and sustainable. I get it, radiation bad, but most folks dont know that coal-fired power plants produce more ambient radiation than fission plants. I voted for Trump twice, and even I was like, "wait what, coal?!"

Finland is leading the way in nuclear waste disposal, thats a good sign imo.

You know all about it but still doubt it. Excellent.
Anywho

https://world-nuclear.org/information-library/current-and-future-generation/thorium.aspx

Thorium reactors sound promising, on the surface. Needs a catalyst to go bang. Remove catalyst, it stops. Simplified, im sure its more complex.

China is a leader, India has the most Thorium and some interest. US has minimal interest so far.

Incidentally user bubur may be interested as well. When Thorium degrades it turns into Pb208. Eventually.

We need Chris Hemsworth to champion it. Thor I Um. I can see it now.

[Knowledge]

I can't wait to go, to Mar-A-Lag-O
play golf with the President, what a precedent
Every shot Trump ever took was a hole in one, grab 'em by the sandwedge
Biden cheated, that's why Trump was defeated,
3 more years of Joe and its all ova for DNC baby.

LET'S GO BRANDON!

[Trexller]

I edit quotes into different messages then reply as if OP had said only that

[Duik]

I edit quotes so i dont have a wall of text to be ignored. Addressed only those parts of your quote i had an interest in.
The rest of ya quote is free to be read by interested parties.
No need to be offended. I believe you made some fine points. I just had no interest in addressing those ones.
Tldr. Dont cry, i read your whole post, agreed with much of it. Addressed only those that piqued my interest.

[Whale biologist]

You know all about it but still doubt it. Excellent.
Anywho

https://world-nuclear.org/information-library/current-and-future-generation/thorium.aspx

Thorium reactors sound promising, on the surface. Needs a catalyst to go bang. Remove catalyst, it stops. Simplified, im sure its more complex.

China is a leader, India has the most Thorium and some interest. US has minimal interest so far.

Incidentally user bubur may be interested as well. When Thorium degrades it turns into Pb208. Eventually.

We need Chris Hemsworth to champion it. Thor I Um. I can see it now.

>All known thorium isotopes are unstable.
>LE BAD!!

[Duik]

Excellent points Prints Of Whales. Discussion ended. That was easy.
Also, may wanna read more about it, or not.
Also, stop whaling on me.
Also also, Uranium has no classically stable isotopes, but that shit still works in reactors. Reading stuff helps.

[bubur]

Incidentally user bubur may be interested as well

na. it's the next day now

[Jibartik]

China is a leader

Correction: China reports that it is the leader.

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[Jibartik]

LOLOLOL

there is a tax break for media LOLOLOLLLOOLOLLLOLOLL!OL!O!OL!O!O!O!L!OL!OL!LO!L!O L!O!L!OL!OL!O!O!

https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2021/nov/4/bidens-50000-year-journalist-tax-credit-estimated-/

Biden’s $50,000-per-year journalist tax credit estimated to cost taxpayers $1.6B

LOLOL REGULATE THE SOCIAL MEDIA THE PEOPLE ARE LYING TO THEMSELVES GIVE TAX BREAKS TO FOX AND CNN

LOLOLOOLOLOLLOL::ILWI: ABUJLO{"@# QW L:KRJKL:Q#JRKL:J!@#$ L:!@K: $!@#$ @#$

Better start reporting good things about the democrats because theyre giving journalists FREE MONEY LOL

[unsunghero]

LOLOLOL

there is a tax break for media LOLOLOLLLOOLOLLLOLOLL!OL!O!OL!O!O!O!L!OL!OL!LO!L!O L!O!L!OL!OL!O!O!

https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2021/nov/4/bidens-50000-year-journalist-tax-credit-estimated-/

Biden’s $50,000-per-year journalist tax credit estimated to cost taxpayers $1.6B

LOLOL REGULATE THE SOCIAL MEDIA THE PEOPLE ARE LYING TO THEMSELVES GIVE TAX BREAKS TO FOX AND CNN

LOLOLOOLOLOLLOL::ILWI: ABUJLO{"@# QW L:KRJKL:Q#JRKL:J!@#$ L:!@K: $!@#$ @#$

Better start reporting good things about the democrats because theyre giving journalists FREE MONEY LOL

State-run propaganda, yo

[Horza]

LOLOLOL

LOLOLOLLLOOLOLLLOLOLL!OL!O!OL!O!O!O!L!OL!OL!LO!L!O L!O!L!OL!OL!O!O!

LOLOLOOLOLOLLOL::ILWI: ABUJLO{"@# QW L:KRJKL:Q#JRKL:J!@#$ L:!@K: $!@#$ @#$

Jib having some sort of breakdown again?

[Whale biologist]

Jib having some sort of breakdown again?

$1.6b isn't very much in terms of gov't spending or revenue or GDP or anything really.

It's like the child kidnapping payments the Trompkins is so mad about, $1b - a paltry sum.

[Whale biologist]

LOLOLOL

there is a tax break for media LOLOLOLLLOOLOLLLOLOLL!OL!O!OL!O!O!O!L!OL!OL!LO!L!O L!O!L!OL!OL!O!O!

https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2021/nov/4/bidens-50000-year-journalist-tax-credit-estimated-/

Biden’s $50,000-per-year journalist tax credit estimated to cost taxpayers $1.6B

LOLOL REGULATE THE SOCIAL MEDIA THE PEOPLE ARE LYING TO THEMSELVES GIVE TAX BREAKS TO FOX AND CNN

LOLOLOOLOLOLLOL::ILWI: ABUJLO{"@# QW L:KRJKL:Q#JRKL:J!@#$ L:!@K: $!@#$ @#$

Better start reporting good things about the democrats because theyre giving journalists FREE MONEY LOL

It's a tax credit for the outlets, this is not a payment to individual journalists at all.

Don't be dumber than me. :)

[Gatordash]

It's a tax credit for the outlets, this is not a payment to individual journalists at all.

Don't be dumber than me. :)

Try to solve this one sherlock.

Why would Biden be giving news outlets tax breaks?

[Whale biologist]

Try to solve this one sherlock.

Why would Biden be giving news outlets tax breaks?

Because it's targetted to local news operations(<750 bodies) and I like knowing when it's gonna rain.

(Ths answer is from now til June) :p

[Gatordash]

Because it's targetted to local news operations(<750 bodies) and I like knowing when it's gonna rain.

(Ths answer is from now til June) :p

If you like knowing when its going to rain then look at your weather app on your phone like everyone else. Congress gets lobbied constantly, guess it was a matter of time before a President started lobbying back. I wonder what he paid big bird for that tweet yesterday.

[Knowledge]

AOC is gone she won't get reelected. Good news is there's alotta openings for bar whores in NY.

[Horza]

Democrats are all whores and Republicans are saints, don't you just love team sports?

[Elizondo]

$1.6b isn't very much in terms of gov't spending or revenue or GDP or anything really.

It's like the child kidnapping payments the Trompkins is so mad about, $1b - a paltry sum.

Bro you don't see a conflict of interest there? 1B ain't pennies to media companies

[Whale biologist]

AOC is gone she won't get reelected.

Inshallah :)

[Whale biologist]

Bro you don't see a conflict of interest there? 1B ain't pennies to media companies

It is to the totality of the media industry. It's not $1b for each individual franchise. :)

[hobart]

if someone says a few nice things about biden and his administration, i'd back off em and maybe support it

go

Joe Biden's administration has been a steady and level extension of the continuous policy vector we had outside of the Trump term since 2000. Which is exactly what you want if you're not a fucking imbecile.

He also crop dusted that hatefully ugly British twat which is objectively awesome. Can you imagine how ugly the offspring of her and Prince Charles would have been? I shudder to think.

For those of you too stupid to understand (most of you), Biden has nothing to do with inflation or gas prices. Yet. But the net increase in "wealth" from the ill-advised last stimulus and extending COVID benefits too long is starting to have an effect on the economy as will the bad energy policy in the next couple of years.

[Jibartik]

It's a tax credit for the outlets, this is not a payment to individual journalists at all.

Don't be dumber than me. :)

that isnt any better at all! Thats exactly what I thought it was!

[Jibartik]

Democrats are all whores and Republicans are saints, don't you just love team sports?

you actually believe this! This was your dream all along Civil war.

[Jibartik]

Democrats want the country to be like a Travis Scott concert.

[Horza]

I don't know if I could ever vote for Demoncats.

[Elizondo]

Joe Biden's administration has been a steady and level extension of the continuous policy vector we had outside of the Trump term since 2000. Which is exactly what you want if you're not a fucking imbecile.

He also crop dusted that hatefully ugly British twat which is objectively awesome. Can you imagine how ugly the offspring of her and Prince Charles would have been? I shudder to think.

For those of you too stupid to understand (most of you), Biden has nothing to do with inflation or gas prices. Yet. But the net increase in "wealth" from the ill-advised last stimulus and extending COVID benefits too long is starting to have an effect on the economy as will the bad energy policy in the next couple of years.

Bro Old Dude on his knees polishin iron sheik pole right now beggin for more oil

[Whale biologist]

that isnt any better at all! Thats exactly what I thought it was!

Who knows, maybe we'll get topless weather-persons from the intrusion.

For inclusiveness! 🤤

[Homesteaded]

Just checking in Biden sucks and if you voted for him over Trump you're a lunatic. GLHF

[Jibartik]

THERE ARE 10 CORPERATIONS THAT OWN ALL LOCAL ACCESS NEWS AND NOW THEY GET 50K A PER EMPLOYEE IN TAX BREAKS

THERE ARE 10 CORPERATIONS THAT OWN ALL LOCAL ACCESS NEWS AND NOW THEY GET 50K A PER EMPLOYEE IN TAX BREAKS

THERE ARE 10 CORPERATIONS THAT OWN ALL LOCAL ACCESS NEWS AND NOW THEY GET 50K A PER EMPLOYEE IN TAX BREAKS

THERE ARE 10 CORPERATIONS THAT OWN ALL LOCAL ACCESS NEWS AND NOW THEY GET 50K A PER EMPLOYEE IN TAX BREAKS

THERE ARE 10 CORPERATIONS THAT OWN ALL LOCAL ACCESS NEWS AND NOW THEY GET 50K A PER EMPLOYEE IN TAX BREAKS

THERE ARE 10 CORPERATIONS THAT OWN ALL LOCAL ACCESS NEWS AND NOW THEY GET 50K A PER EMPLOYEE IN TAX BREAKS

THERE ARE 10 CORPERATIONS THAT OWN ALL LOCAL ACCESS NEWS AND NOW THEY GET 50K A PER EMPLOYEE IN TAX BREAKS

THERE ARE 10 CORPERATIONS THAT OWN ALL LOCAL ACCESS NEWS AND NOW THEY GET 50K A PER EMPLOYEE IN TAX BREAKS

THERE ARE 10 CORPERATIONS THAT OWN ALL LOCAL ACCESS NEWS AND NOW THEY GET 50K A PER EMPLOYEE IN TAX BREAKS

THERE ARE 10 CORPERATIONS THAT OWN ALL LOCAL ACCESS NEWS AND NOW THEY GET 50K A PER EMPLOYEE IN TAX BREAKS

THERE ARE 10 CORPERATIONS THAT OWN ALL LOCAL ACCESS NEWS AND NOW THEY GET 50K A PER EMPLOYEE IN TAX BREAKS

[Whale biologist]

THERE ARE 10 CORPERATIONS THAT OWN ALL LOCAL ACCESS NEWS AND NOW THEY GET 50K A PER EMPLOYEE IN TAX BREAKS

THERE ARE 10 CORPERATIONS THAT OWN ALL LOCAL ACCESS NEWS AND NOW THEY GET 50K A PER EMPLOYEE IN TAX BREAKS

THERE ARE 10 CORPERATIONS THAT OWN ALL LOCAL ACCESS NEWS AND NOW THEY GET 50K A PER EMPLOYEE IN TAX BREAKS

THERE ARE 10 CORPERATIONS THAT OWN ALL LOCAL ACCESS NEWS AND NOW THEY GET 50K A PER EMPLOYEE IN TAX BREAKS

THERE ARE 10 CORPERATIONS THAT OWN ALL LOCAL ACCESS NEWS AND NOW THEY GET 50K A PER EMPLOYEE IN TAX BREAKS

THERE ARE 10 CORPERATIONS THAT OWN ALL LOCAL ACCESS NEWS AND NOW THEY GET 50K A PER EMPLOYEE IN TAX BREAKS

THERE ARE 10 CORPERATIONS THAT OWN ALL LOCAL ACCESS NEWS AND NOW THEY GET 50K A PER EMPLOYEE IN TAX BREAKS

THERE ARE 10 CORPERATIONS THAT OWN ALL LOCAL ACCESS NEWS AND NOW THEY GET 50K A PER EMPLOYEE IN TAX BREAKS

THERE ARE 10 CORPERATIONS THAT OWN ALL LOCAL ACCESS NEWS AND NOW THEY GET 50K A PER EMPLOYEE IN TAX BREAKS

THERE ARE 10 CORPERATIONS THAT OWN ALL LOCAL ACCESS NEWS AND NOW THEY GET 50K A PER EMPLOYEE IN TAX BREAKS

THERE ARE 10 CORPERATIONS THAT OWN ALL LOCAL ACCESS NEWS AND NOW THEY GET 50K A PER EMPLOYEE IN TAX BREAKS

It's like McDonald's, the franchises are not owned by the parent corp. They all pull from wire services anyway.

I'm lovin' it 🍔 🍟

[Jibartik]

That's not even close to accurate and you didnt even know about this until fox pointed it out, you are not loving it.

not to mention that's not even how McDonalds payroll works.

what difference does it make this country is done for everyone is stupid and we have nothing to offer except 300,000,000 soldiers.

stupid state run record profits in 2019 2020 media gets a tax break this is hell I am in hell.

[Whale biologist]

That's not even close to accurate and you didnt even know about this until fox pointed it out

not to mention that's not even how McDonalds payroll works.

what difference does it make this country is done for everyone is stupid and we have nothing to offer except 300,000,000 soldiers.

I haven't watch fox today or in the past month and McDonalds is a landlord.

[Jibartik]

that's the urban legend they gorilla market with.

Their greatest profits were in land ownership when they were spreading around the country but that has long since changed.

and either way I highly doubt you're being honest about your argument re your knowledge of how the tax bill works and who it affects and who it doesnt I really dont.

I honestlyl cant believe we're at this stage where we think we need to help the media so much we need to give them tax breaks during their most profitable year following their last most profitable year while CNN and FOX do their best "lets turn the country into hatfield and mcoys!" impersonations.

whatever, lets ban social media and make the goverment pay salaries of journalists fuck it! What do I care I want everyone to suffer and that is a much quicker path to that.

[Jibartik]

https://www.asahi.com/ajw/articles/14476161

what is with these two? What is it about them that they are like, 'you just get me!'

[Whale biologist]

https://www.asahi.com/ajw/articles/14476161

what is with these two? What is it about them that they are like, 'you just get me!'

https://i.imgur.com/Jj4FtEP.jpg

[Jibartik]

This guy knew if the country was going to listen to him, it'd be just like school for him all over.

[Jibartik]

holy shit you can just become a not for profit news organization operating off of a subscription model and then still pay your employee's huge salaries, while being TAX EXEMPT

now these organizations (owned by parent companies like CNBC and FOX) can get to write off 50k per employee.

We are in a doom spiral, the freedom of the press thingy is going to be the thing that kills us all.

I think I would so much rather have replaced that with something like, the goverment shall remain transparent to all eyes and hide no secrets from its people, than 'pretty sure those guys will keep a good watch for us, this is enough, dont fuck with them!'

[Jibartik]

4 seasons lol boss lady

https://i.imgur.com/SUh64PD.jpg

[Horza]

Another page that's just seventy percent Jib spewing right-wing schizophrenia? I don't care about politics anymore is right.

[Jibartik]

its only that way because you managed to go do something today it'd be an even number of your cope replies if not. dont be so glib

[Knowledge]

Democrats Thought They Bottomed Out in Rural, White America. It Wasn't the Bottom.

[Botten]

Bro Old Dude on his knees polishin iron sheik pole right now beggin for more oil

Gas getting over 4 dollars a gallon is actually really not bad for the US. They would become pretty rich. Domestically it sucks but foreign cash flowing into the US has a lot of advantages.

"In 2011, crude oil was trading at nearly $120 per barrel on the NYMEX. High oil prices were sustained until mid-2014, when prices crashed from $100 per barrel down to less than $50. While consumers rejoiced at lower gas prices, oil and gas producers scrambled to stay profitable.

At $120 per barrel, fracking is a very profitable business. At lower prices, companies are forced to weigh the cost of expensive fracking compared to less expensive extraction methods.

The most expensive oil produced in the United States today comes from older wells known as “stripper wells.” These are aging oil and gas wells that only produce a few barrels per day. The maintenance cost on the wells does not decline with oil prices, and these wells become unprofitable around $40 per barrel."

[Elizondo]

Gas getting over 4 dollars a gallon is actually really not bad for the US. They would become pretty rich. Domestically it sucks but foreign cash flowing into the US has a lot of advantages.

"In 2011, crude oil was trading at nearly $120 per barrel on the NYMEX. High oil prices were sustained until mid-2014, when prices crashed from $100 per barrel down to less than $50. While consumers rejoiced at lower gas prices, oil and gas producers scrambled to stay profitable.

At $120 per barrel, fracking is a very profitable business. At lower prices, companies are forced to weigh the cost of expensive fracking compared to less expensive extraction methods.

The most expensive oil produced in the United States today comes from older wells known as “stripper wells.” These are aging oil and gas wells that only produce a few barrels per day. The maintenance cost on the wells does not decline with oil prices, and these wells become unprofitable around $40 per barrel."

Bro you don't need to throw away your dignity for some old dude that soils his pants

[Toxigen]

Just checking in Biden sucks and if you voted for him over Trump you're a lunatic. GLHF

[nostalgiaquest]

Let's go Toxigen!

[walfreyydo]

THERE ARE 10 CORPERATIONS THAT OWN ALL LOCAL ACCESS NEWS AND NOW THEY GET 50K A PER EMPLOYEE IN TAX BREAKS

If they are owned by mega-corps with supposedly deep pockets, then why are they in such dire straights? Are you suggesting said mega-corpse are intentionally defunding them?

Or maybe (more plausibly) it could be that said mega-corps aren't going to subsidize local news who are consistently in the red, and instead let them fail and close down.

Maybe these subsidies will bring them back into the black and allow local news to continue to operate in the black and not be shut down by said mega corps?

Do you not see value in local news??

[Botten]

Bro you don't need to throw away your dignity for some old dude that soils his pants

What was Biden thinking pulling a Johnathan Stewart on national TV like that done during Browns vs Giants game (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VG_P4xAqWEQ).

Now R.Kelly that guy was a nut. I mean who likes to Pee on under age girls...

oh... oh I am sorry sorry you actually voted for the Orange guy who LIKED getting Peed on by underage girls. (https://www.salon.com/2021/10/15/brings-up-golden-showers-unprompted-during-private-event-with-donors/)

Hey Republicans, am I right; you would rather worry about what mustard a president uses (https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2017/6/12/1671103/-That-one-time-Fox-News-attacked-President-Obama-for-asking-for-mustard) rather than whether he is promoting Goya Beans in the White house. (https://www.newyorker.com/news/our-columnists/the-president-is-shilling-beans)

[Jibartik]

If they are owned by mega-corps with supposedly deep pockets, then why are they in such dire straights? Are you suggesting said mega-corpse are intentionally defunding them?

Because they are not in dire straits.

Don’t you remember like four years ago when the media across-the-board had that big giant push about how the media industry was losing money and everybody should subscribe to different media organizations and outlets instead of just getting it for free in the Internet was destroying the news?

Well the only people that were saying that we’re media outlets.

And now those same media outlets are spinning the same yarn about how social media is turning us all against each other never mind cable news!

And the lobbyists convinced the politicians that they should get tax breaks that’s all this is it’s not some great thing if you think the tax breaks to the news and media that you didn’t even know it was going to happen until after it happened is anything more than lobbyists slipping that shit into the $1 trillion bills that nobody fucking reads then I don’t know what to say.

I wish I could live a life that optimistic.

Or maybe (more plausibly) it could be that said mega-corps aren't going to subsidize local news who are consistently in the red, and instead let them fail and close down.

When you own a local news station you dont subsidize it, it's not like that. You write the scripts, pay the employee's and tell them what to say and you collect the profits. (which hurt if you have to pay your employee's unless you have lobbyists that convince americans to pay them for you)

Sinclair now does not have to pay 50k of each of its its employees that work at 294 television stations it owns across the country.

hWLjYJ4BzvI

"If we dont pay the news more money it is extremely dangerous to our democracy. "

[starkind]

upi a;; meed a ;pt pf jigs

[Whale biologist]

Sinclair now does not have to pay 50k of each of its its employees that work at 294 television stations it owns across the country.


What's 1bn divided by 50k?

upi a;; meed a ;pt pf jigs

Good Jib impression. :p

[Jibartik]

I dont get it. You guys must be trolling me whale.

Whatever, 10 corporations get the largest payroll tax break in history and I'm the asshole.

[Whale biologist]

Big Bird accused of pushing government propaganda (https://www.click2houston.com/entertainment/2021/11/08/big-bird-accused-of-pushing-government-propaganda-after-announcing-covid-19-vaccination/)

Sesame Street’s Big Bird is facing backlash

https://i.imgur.com/ouFxfo3.jpg

[Jibartik]

what if we trade CRT for CCT?

https://i.imgur.com/7DMFwUG.png

[Horza]

I'm the asshole.

You can still turn off Fox News at any time.

[Elizondo]

What was Biden thinking pulling a Johnathan Stewart on national TV like that done during Browns vs Giants game (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VG_P4xAqWEQ).

Now R.Kelly that guy was a nut. I mean who likes to Pee on under age girls...

oh... oh I am sorry sorry you actually voted for the Orange guy who LIKED getting Peed on by underage girls. (https://www.salon.com/2021/10/15/brings-up-golden-showers-unprompted-during-private-event-with-donors/)

Hey Republicans, am I right; you would rather worry about what mustard a president uses (https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2017/6/12/1671103/-That-one-time-Fox-News-attacked-President-Obama-for-asking-for-mustard) rather than whether he is promoting Goya Beans in the White house. (https://www.newyorker.com/news/our-columnists/the-president-is-shilling-beans)

Bro pee tape is fake news tho

Brandon bros tryin to tell peeps high gases are good. I love watching old sitcoms from the 70s

[Botten]

Bro pee tape is fake news tho

Brandon bros tryin to tell peeps high gases are good. I love watching old sitcoms from the 70s

Hey the rest of the public isn't bring it up.

It is Trump talking about the time he was Peed on as recently as of Oct 14th 2021 (https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/trump-gop-fraud-claims/2021/10/14/f37887fe-2cfc-11ec-985d-3150f7e106b2_story.html)

If it smells like pee on Trump it is probably pee.

[Elizondo]

Hey the rest of the public isn't bring it up.

It is Trump talking about the time he was Peed on as recently as of Oct 14th 2021 (https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/trump-gop-fraud-claims/2021/10/14/f37887fe-2cfc-11ec-985d-3150f7e106b2_story.html)

If it smells like pee on Trump it is probably pee.

lol dude

You keep doubling down on berger. Pee tape is fake news.

[walfreyydo]

Summary of Elizondo contribution to the thread:

"Old dude, <insert random geriatric insult here>"

Cant debate on merits? Can you assemble a constructive argument? Let FOX/OAN do the thinking for you?

[Elizondo]

Summary of Elizondo contribution to the thread:

"Old dude, <insert random geriatric insult here>"

Cant debate on merits? Can you assemble a constructive argument? Let FOX/OAN do the thinking for you?

Sorry man

I don't debate made up stories. Have fun wit dat.

[Horza]

Summary of Elizondo contribution to the thread:

"Old dude, <insert random geriatric insult here>"

Cant debate on merits? Can you assemble a constructive argument? Let FOX/OAN do the thinking for you?

Just accept that President Grab 'em by the Pussy is the standard of morality according to these sociopaths.

[Ooloo]

Trump indeed is rude and crude. He said many audacious, highly naughty things that made me outraged immediately. However nearly all his actual policies as president were better than bidens, even under covid. Lol biden is worse than trump.

[Toxigen]

Kyle will walk.

[Ooloo]

Kyle will walk.

The sad thing is that if he doesn't, there are actually idiots out there who will think that's justice.

[Trexller]

Being nice is more important than being good at your job

[Whale biologist]

The sad thing is that if he doesn't, there are actually idiots out there who will think that's justice.

Whatever the jury decides will be justice, tautologically.

[Horza]

Trump indeed is rude and crude. He said many audacious, highly naughty things that made me outraged immediately. However nearly all his actual policies as president were better than bidens, even under covid. Lol biden is worse than trump.

Just turn off Fox News, Baler.

[Botten]

Kyle will walk.

He wasn't legal to carry in Wisconsin.

[Elizondo]

He wasn't legal to carry in Wisconsin.

He was just out huntin tho and got attacked by armed savages. Totally legal for him to be armed. Just huntin.

[Ooloo]

He wasn't legal to carry in Wisconsin.

So give him the slap on the wrist for that. Does he deserve murder just because he was a few months too young to carry? No, obviously not. The trial is about specific actions and incidents involving other people, in which kyle is clearly innocent and was excersizing clear self defense.

[Trexller]

the libcommies just want to set a precedent that makes self defense is illegal

[hobart]

However nearly all his actual policies as president were better than bidens, even under covid. Lol biden is worse than trump.

He has/had no policies. He lacks basic knowledge anyone would need to form the bare bones outline of a plan. Doesn't understand how tariffs work. Doesn't know Puerto Rico is part of the US. Doesn't take briefings. Etc.

It was four years of campaigning and he couldn't even do that correctly.

Democratic foreign policy is pretty bad across the board and has been my entire lifetime. Biden's energy policy is bad long term. Last Stimulus was a bad idea. And yet, still day and night to anyone who isn't fucking stupid. Sorry, that's you. And sorry for me there are a lot of other uneducated people as dumb and intellectually incurious as you are.

[Elizondo]

He has/had no policies. He lacks basic knowledge anyone would need to form the bare bones outline of a plan. Doesn't understand how tariffs work. Doesn't know Puerto Rico is part of the US. Doesn't take briefings. Etc.

It was four years of campaigning and he couldn't even do that correctly.

Democratic foreign policy is pretty bad across the board and has been my entire lifetime. Biden's energy policy is bad long term. Last Stimulus was a bad idea. And yet, still day and night to anyone who isn't fucking stupid. Sorry, that's you. And sorry for me there are a lot of other uneducated people as dumb and intellectually incurious as you are.

Naw man

Orange Dude waaaaaay better than Old Dude

[Horza]

He has/had no policies. He lacks basic knowledge anyone would need to form the bare bones outline of a plan. Doesn't understand how tariffs work. Doesn't know Puerto Rico is part of the US. Doesn't take briefings. Etc.

It was four years of campaigning and he couldn't even do that correctly.

Democratic foreign policy is pretty bad across the board and has been my entire lifetime. Biden's energy policy is bad long term. Last Stimulus was a bad idea. And yet, still day and night to anyone who isn't fucking stupid. Sorry, that's you. And sorry for me there are a lot of other uneducated people as dumb and intellectually incurious as you are.

Again, these dumbasses seriously think President Grab 'em by the Pussy is a beacon of morality and nothing you or I say will change that anytime soon. You're just not going to be able to deprogram a bunch of angry evangelicals over some internet forum.

[Elizondo]

Again, these dumbasses seriously think President Grab 'em by the Pussy is a beacon of morality and nothing you or I say will change that anytime soon. You're just not going to be able to deprogram a bunch of angry evangelicals over some internet forum.

You guys whining about Orange Dude almost a year out of office and everyone else be like

CSALQn0u9z4

[hobart]

You guys whining about Orange Dude almost a year out of office and everyone else be like

This is probably the best idea you've ever had. Glad I could do my part. Good luck!

[Elizondo]

This is probably the best idea you've ever had. Glad I could do my part. Good luck!

I'll let you know how it goes

[Gustoo]

Problem with orange dude is what he did to cuck out the US to the russians and chinese.

Day 1? Called into question NATO, that literally is USA's missle pointing organizing that has stood on russias neck 24/7 with much success.

Day 2? Got everyone in the state department to quit or be fired. This was the way USA was a world power. We had allies and we had relationships with other nations that were mutually beneficial.

These things set us back about 100 years and our position will never ever be the same. Now everyone knows that if a dumb enough fuck can get into office the USA can genuinely become unreliable overnight.

Old dude and orange dude are both terrifying examples of the united states political system. No one wanted either of these candidates to be president at any time and yet the spectacle of the campaign and all the other factors involved meant that our electoral system yielded these guys. Ridiculous. I would vote for any random person from the entire world to be president over these two guaranteed corrupt garbage selections.

But seriously the nato and state department thing is literally russia and chinas wettest wet dreams and literally did more damage than if they first strike nuked the 2 most populous major cities in the USA and delivered demands before we even knew it happened or some other clear demonstration of total superiority.

We can win wars but we can't win anything when we can be tricked to throwing ourselves off a cliff.

[Jibartik]

https://imgur.com/RMe0wr2

Kyle gonna get off?

Could have some implications on the civil war.

[Whale biologist]

https://i.imgur.com/olGM1s7.png

@Dads

[Whale biologist]

https://imgur.com/RMe0wr2

Kyle gonna get off?

Could have some implications on the civil war.

Public carry by a minor is a laugher when Heller was only 12 years ago. (https://www.nytimes.com/2021/11/02/us/kyle-rittenhouse-charges.html)

He's toast.

[Jibartik]

Public carry by a minor is a laugher when Heller was only 12 years ago. (https://www.nytimes.com/2021/11/02/us/kyle-rittenhouse-charges.html)

I see not only do you pay media outlets with your taxes, you send them direct payments too? Ouch.

[Botten]

So give him the slap on the wrist for that. Does he deserve murder just because he was a few months too young to carry? No, obviously not. The trial is about specific actions and incidents involving other people, in which kyle is clearly innocent and was excersizing clear self defense.

Federal Law as to what constitutes as a child.
A "child" under this definition generally means a person who is younger than age 18 or who is not an emancipated minor.

emancipated minor - In general, minors are under the control of their parents or legal guardians until they attain the age of majority or are otherwise legally emancipated, at which point they legally become adults. In most states, the age of majority is upon reaching 18 years of age. The exceptions are Alabama and Nebraska, where the age of majority is 19, and Mississippi and Puerto Rico, where it is 21.

Wisconsin Law - If you leave a loaded firearm within the reach or easy access of a child you may be fined or imprisoned or both if the child improperly discharges, possesses or exhibits the firearm. Even if the fire arm is owned by the child. WI statute 948.60

So yeah by law he could easy go to jail and self defense could have nothing to do with the sentencing.

I say let the brainwashed kid learn he can't play vigilante.

[Jibartik]

Trial him as an adult, throw him in jail for carrying a gun as a minor lol

[Elizondo]

Public carry by a minor is a laugher when Heller was only 12 years ago. (https://www.nytimes.com/2021/11/02/us/kyle-rittenhouse-charges.html)

He's toast.

I clicked your link and it smelled like a wet fart

[Jibartik]

Im super curious what this means because based on what biden said if china invades tiawan this deal will go up in smoke, and it's a huge deal!

Might it mean that there is no invasion in sight? Makes me wonder is the threat of end times passing...

dlGd08AyljM

[Whale biologist]

Federal Law as to what constitutes as a child.
A "child" under this definition generally means a person who is younger than age 18 or who is not an emancipated minor.

emancipated minor - In general, minors are under the control of their parents or legal guardians until they attain the age of majority or are otherwise legally emancipated, at which point they legally become adults. In most states, the age of majority is upon reaching 18 years of age. The exceptions are Alabama and Nebraska, where the age of majority is 19, and Mississippi and Puerto Rico, where it is 21.

Wisconsin Law - If you leave a loaded firearm within the reach or easy access of a child you may be fined or imprisoned or both if the child improperly discharges, possesses or exhibits the firearm. Even if the fire arm is owned by the child. WI statute 948.60

So yeah by law he could easy go to jail and self defense could have nothing to do with the sentencing.

I say let the brainwashed kid learn he can't play vigilante.

I think you're right about self-defense. So it's 2 aggraved felonies and a misdemeanor at minimum for owning the Libs.

~12-17 years if he beats all 3 murder charges.

[Elizondo]

I think you're right about self-defense. So it's 2 aggraved felonies and a misdemeanor at minimum for owning the Libs.

~12-17 years if he beats all 3 murder charges.

Nah man

He was holding a hunting rifle and was out hunting. Not a shotgun or a pistol.

Dude's a hero for blowing away pedo scum

[Whale biologist]

Nah man

He was holding a hunting rifle and was out hunting. Not a shotgun or a pistol.

Dude's a hero for blowing away pedo scum

Video evidence shows Grosskreutz stopping and raising his hands, his pistol pointing in the air.

[Elizondo]

Video evidence shows Grosskreutz stopping and raising his hands, his pistol pointing in the air.

Bro did you watch the testimony today? You always provin you real low IQ

[Whale biologist]

Bro did you watch the testimony today? You always provin you real low IQ

Grosskreutz testified that he saw Rittenhouse re-rack his rifle to load a new round into the chamber.

[Elizondo]

Grosskreutz testified that he saw Rittenhouse re-rack his rifle to load a new round into the chamber.

https://rumble.com/vowssj-gaige-grosskreutz-forced-to-acknowledge-he-pointed-gun-at-kyle-rittenhouse-.html

Don't think the prosecutor was stoked at that part

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[Whale biologist]

https://rumble.com/vowssj-gaige-grosskreutz-forced-to-acknowledge-he-pointed-gun-at-kyle-rittenhouse-.html

Don't think the prosecutor was stoked at that part

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"In that moment, I felt that I had to do something to try to prevent myself from being killed or being shot," Grosskreutz testified. "I decided the best course of action would be to close the distance between the defendant and I, and from there, I don't know ... wrestling the gun, detaining the defendant, I don't know ... I do know that I was never trying to kill the defendant."

[Elizondo]

"In that moment, I felt that I had to do something to try to prevent myself from being killed or being shot," Grosskreutz testified. "I decided the best course of action would be to close the distance between the defendant and I, and from there, I don't know ... wrestling the gun, detaining the defendant, I don't know ... I do know that I was never trying to kill the defendant."

He chase the dude down and points a gun at him to prevent himself from gettin shot

You funny man

[Whale biologist]

He chase the dude down and points a gun at him to prevent himself from gettin shot

You funny man

Chronology. Time is linear, my friend. :)

[Gustoo]

https://rumble.com/vowssj-gaige-grosskreutz-forced-to-acknowledge-he-pointed-gun-at-kyle-rittenhouse-.html

Don't think the prosecutor was stoked at that part

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Good link

[Gustoo]

At first I thought that Kyle actually reloaded in the heat of the moment and the witness / prosecution saw that happen. I didn't realize that didn't happen, since I'm not that familiar with the video. Now I see why the prosecuting attorney is facepalming so hard.

Looks like his testimony has worked heavily in favor of the defendant.

I think he is in a pretty clear self defense situation. The problem is that he got himself into that situation by taking illegal actions. Quite a tricky worst case scenario.

It's gunna be underage possession and discharging that gets him. The trial should have been by the current prosecution against his parents or whoever may have enabled him to have access to the rifle underage.

[Jibartik]

Holy smokes watching the video of that guy and I am just now finding out that not only did they hit that kid with a skateboard but the guy that was right up on him had a gun!

Wow the only thing I really thought Kyle was guilty of was bringing a gun to a knife fight (a protest) and now it turns out everyone had one there, so oh well.

I do like that this guy had a gun, and discovered while holding it during the 1 time in his life where he would use it, when someone is racking an AR pointed at him, he chose die rather than take a life. Blessed with a fleshwound (a painful looking one at that) for his sacrifice. Could have been his head.

edit: oof the defense is demolishing this guy, did you know he gets 10 mil from the city if kyle is convicted? Big yikes.

[Whale biologist]

At first I thought that Kyle actually reloaded in the heat of the moment and the witness / prosecution saw that happen. I didn't realize that didn't happen, since I'm not that familiar with the video. Now I see why the prosecuting attorney is facepalming so hard.

Looks like his testimony has worked heavily in favor of the defendant.

I think he is in a pretty clear self defense situation. The problem is that he got himself into that situation by taking illegal actions. Quite a tricky worst case scenario.

It's gunna be underage possession and discharging that gets him. The trial should have been by the current prosecution against his parents or whoever may have enabled him to have access to the rifle underage.

Dominick Black (https://www.nytimes.com/2021/11/02/us/dominick-black-testimony.html)(Libertarian Groomer meme goes here Chortles)

Interesting note - one of the reckless safety charges is for a shot fired at Richard McGinnis, a recent witness and video editor for The Daily Caller. (https://www.npr.org/2021/11/05/1053018241/kyle-rittenhouse-trial-first-week-what-happened)

[Whale biologist]

Holy smokes watching the video of that guy and I am just now finding out that not only did they hit that kid with a skateboard but the guy that was right up on him had a gun!

Wow the only thing I really thought Kyle was guilty of was bringing a gun to a knife fight (a protest) and now it turns out everyone had one there, so oh well.

I do like that this guy had a gun, and discovered while holding it during the 1 time in his life where he would use it, when someone is racking an AR pointed at him, he chose die rather than take a life. Blessed with a fleshwound (a painful looking one at that) for his sacrifice. Could have been his head.

edit: oof the defense is demolishing this guy, did you know he gets 10 mil from the city if kyle is convicted? Big yikes.

"Re-racking the weapon, in my mind, meant the defendant wasn't accepting my surrender," Grosskreutz said.

(Someone tell me what re-racking is)

[Elizondo]

"Re-racking the weapon, in my mind, meant the defendant wasn't accepting my surrender," Grosskreutz said.

(Someone tell me what re-racking is)

Bro He wasn't surrendering. He ran up on him with a loaded gun and was illegally carrying btw.

[Jibartik]

"Re-racking the weapon, in my mind, meant the defendant wasn't accepting my surrender," Grosskreutz said.

(Someone tell me what re-racking is)

he goes into great detail about it on the stand (like he did his entire life's history Jesus Christ that was like 40 minuets) but it means ejecting the round in the chamber and if there is a round in the magazine it readies it to fire.

The guy on the stand makes a good guess, the gun was jammed or the round was defective so he racked the gun to take another shot.

For a brief moment during his testimony it sounded like Kyle held back from firing while the guy had his hands up, but doesn't sound like that was the case haha

Bro He wasn't surrendering. He ran up on him with a loaded gun and was illegally carrying btw.

can you believe he gets 10 mil for that if kyle goes to the clank? What a fucked up world.

[Whale biologist]

Bro He wasn't surrendering. He ran up on him with a loaded gun and was illegally carrying btw.

Untraining the pistol says he did. :p

Then Kyle reloaded.

[Elizondo]

Untraining the pistol says he did. :p

Then Kyle reloaded.

Dude the gun was already loaded. Sorry man, but you just dense. Maybe you readin fake news or somethin dunno

[Whale biologist]

Dude the gun was already loaded. Sorry man, but you just dense. Maybe you readin fake news or somethin dunno

If Mr Rittenhouse has a right to defend himself based on his own subjective judgment, so does Mr Guseikenkratz. I'd say lowering the gun is a laudable attempt to deescalate the situation.

But legally it just depends on how many homicides they each committed that evening. :cool:

[Duik]

Sounds to me, if Judge Dredd Djunior goes to prison for dispensing his brand of property and personal protection you all need to take sum dem thaar justice implements downtown n fix it all up somewhat.
He just drove two towns over to be a vigilant entity. Sounds about right.

[Jibartik]

whale I know that sounds like it makes sense to you but you wouldnt ever make it to the jury box.

The fact is if someone acts aggressively and you didn't then you're going get away with killing them.

The skateboard whack alone would get him off if he machine gunned 12 of them after that.

OK that is a little extreme, but Im trying to be dramatic. Im sure he'll walk.

That doesnt mean anything though, it's not like I believe he should or should'nt, I dont care, but chances are he'll walk.

[Toxigen]

VJ7SyNqqUjE

[starkind]

Everyone in this thread needs a massive dosage of tictac induced hugging.

[Whale biologist]

Gosar of the Rebellion (https://twitter.com/RepGosar/status/1457493879003963398)

[starkind]

I think everyone should be vikings and have the tictactikewlest training and that if ur annoyed or threatened by some cheeseburger u should totally be free to defend urself and ur loved ones at all times. Especially if it's from a company, people not of your religion, or the government or some rioting hooligans.

The police and gubb should definitely stay out of our private neighborhoodly affairs. And people should grow the fuck up and learn to engage in solving their problems through the love, compassion, and merciful understanding of Jesus.

Anything less really kinda just deserves tyranny and civil war, which is what the lazy gluttonous bastards are gunna get.

:hugs emoji:

-Also-

Gosar of the Rebellion (https://twitter.com/RepGosar/status/1457493879003963398)

https://i.imgur.com/33RuUgj.jpeg

[Elizondo]

If Mr Rittenhouse has a right to defend himself based on his own subjective judgment, so does Mr Guseikenkratz. I'd say lowering the gun is a laudable attempt to deescalate the situation.

But legally it just depends on how many homicides they each committed that evening. :cool:

Bro I'm tryin to be cool. I like you, but you didn't watch the part where Gusedude admitted he was the one that advanced on Rittenhouse. You can see it in the pic where Kyle is on the ground and the dude that was tryin to 'deescalate the situation' was towerin over him with a pistol aimed at him point blank

[Whale biologist]

Bro I'm tryin to be cool. I like you, but you didn't watch the part where Gusedude admitted he was the one that advanced on Rittenhouse. You can see it in the pic where Kyle is on the ground and the dude that was tryin to 'deescalate the situation' was towerin over him with a pistol aimed at him point blank

If he stopped pointing the pistol, as the video shows and as the witness states, the threat of imminent deadly harm had passed.

[starkind]

Lock them all into a zone like in snake pliskin from LA.

Better yet. Make LA the zone. Everyone grumpy and lazy goes there.

We can air drop in food, water, weapons and ammo. Charge a fee for civies to fly drones filming the action.

[Elizondo]

If he stopped pointing the pistol, as the video shows and as the witness states, the threat of imminent deadly harm had passed.

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[Ooloo]

"They were peacefully trying to murder him, and he was murderously retreating and defending himself as a last resort" -actual leftist logic

[Gatordash]

"They were peacefully trying to murder him, and he was murderously retreating and defending himself as a last resort" -actual leftist logic

It'd be weird to be skateboard guy's family and have to explain to people how he died. "well he was at a BLM protest when he saw a scared kid running away with a hunting rifle. So he chased after him to hit him with his skateboard to really send a message about how black lives matter. Then the kid shot him! Unbelievable."

[Toxigen]

It'd be weird to be skateboard guy's family and have to explain to people how he died. "well he was at a BLM protest when he saw a scared kid running away with a hunting rifle. So he chased after him to hit him with his skateboard to really send a message about how black lives matter. Then the kid shot him! Unbelievable."

lol

[Whale biologist]

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That isn't video. Link the video.

[Elizondo]

That isn't video. Link the video.

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[walfreyydo]

If we set aside the fact that having guns in this situation is what caused the situation to deteriorate.. Set aside Rittenhouse was illegally in possession of a gun that wasnt his, underage.

In regards to Rosenbaum, I think the case for Rittenhouse acting in self-defense is strong. You can see by his actions prior to his death, he was acting quite aggressive. He chased Rittenhouse around the car. He may have even possibly wanted to die.

In regards to Huber and Grosskruetz, its really a matter of perspective, and it gets much more fuzzy...

On one hand you had people (Huber and Grosskruetz) who believed he was an active shooter, and were trying to stop him. I think in this regard, their actions were appropriate (who wouldn't want to stop an active shooter by any means possible). Huber tried to hit him with a skateboard. Grosskruetz, instead of shooting Rittenhouse, tried to physically restrain him. (Grosskruetz should have probably shot Rittenhouse, and I think if he had done so, he could have claimed self defense and likely gotten off.)

On the other hand, you have Rittenhouse, who was clearly acting in his own self defense against people who he believed were going to physically beat him (but kill? Im not so sure). Each had a different perspective of the intentions of the other.

To sum it up the question in this case for the jurors is: does the possibility of getting beat up meet the definition of self defense ("great boldily harm") and warrant lethal force? Does his action to shoot those two people fall within the confines of "self defense" ie: to prevent death or great bodily harm. I do not think Rittenhouse's actions meet the threshold of "to prevent death". However, the real question is what defines "great bodily harm". Keep in mind that neither of the deceased were in possession of firearms or deadly weapons and Rittenhouse never saw a gun - Grosskruetz - until after the two were dead.

TLDR - this is a sad symptom of the gun laws in this country. We have too many guns and too lax of gun laws allowing people with no training and no business having a firearm, to run freely around acting like vigilantes. The fact that in texas they are passing (or have passed) a law allowing open carry with absolutely zero training, is only going to lead to more situations like Kenosha.

[Toxigen]

DscWIWj4QOI

[Ooloo]

Yeah, but Kyle was exhibiting extensive training. And yes it is perfectly reasonable to assume that an aggressive, angry mob chasing you will use your weapon against you if they infact get it. Once they get your weapon, they are no longer "unarmed". People use the term "unarmed" as if it's a magic get out of jail free card. "Unarmed" is by no means synonymous with "non-lethal".

People say this about police shootings all the time, like mike brown. "Why did you shoot him?? He was unarmed! All he was doing was trying to wrestle your gun away from you while weighing about 100 lbs more than you do!!". Like wtf is he supposed to do? Wait until his gun is stolen and he's been shot in the head to react??

[walfreyydo]

As much as I disagree with the circumstances and underlying issues that caused this situation to unfold, if I were a betting man, I would bet that Rittenhouse gets off on self-defense.

All of you saying this is so clear cut arent really looking at the details and asking the critical question of "great bodily harm". This is what the case hinges on.

[Elizondo]

If we set aside the fact that having guns in this situation is what caused the situation to deteriorate.. Set aside Rittenhouse was illegally in possession of a gun that wasnt his, underage.

In regards to Rosenbaum, I think the case for Rittenhouse acting in self-defense is strong. You can see by his actions prior to his death, he was acting quite aggressive. He chased Rittenhouse around the car. He may have even possibly wanted to die.

In regards to Huber and Grosskruetz, its really a matter of perspective, and it gets much more fuzzy...

On one hand you had people who believed he was an active shooter, and were trying to stop him. I think in this regard, their actions were appropriate (who wouldn't want to stop an active shooter by any means possible). Huber tried to hit him with a skateboard. Grosskruetz, instead of shooting Rittenhouse, tried to physically restrain him. (Grosskruetz should have probably shot Rittenhouse, and I think if he had done so, he could have claimed self defense and likely gotten off.)

On the other hand, you have Rittenhouse, who was clearly acting in his own self defense against people who believed they were stopping an active shooter. Each had a different perspective of the intentions of the other.

To sum it up the question in this case for the jurors is: does the possibility of getting beat up meet the definition of self defense and warrant lethal force?
The question in both situations is this: was Rittenhouse acting within the confines of "self defense" ie: to prevent death or great bodily harm. I do not think Rittenhouse's actions meet the threshold of "to prevent death". However, the real question is what defines "great bodily harm".

Keep in mind that neither of the deceased were in possession of firearms or deadly weapons and Rittenhouse never saw a gun - Grosskruetz - until after the two were dead).

TLDR - we have too many guns and too lax of gun laws allowing people with no training and no business having a firearm, to run freely around acting like vigilantes. The fact that in texas they are passing (or have passed) a law allowing open carry with absolutely zero training, is only going to lead to more situations like Kenosha.

TLDR

hammer and sickle poster wantin guns to be taken away so attempted revolutions like what happened in kenosha won't have any resistance

[walfreyydo]

DscWIWj4QOI

You are letting your pre-disposed biases blind you to the real questions of the case.

Lets be clear - you made your mind up well before trial started and the details came out.

Therefore your analysis is invalid. Sorry

[walfreyydo]

TLDR

hammer and sickle poster wantin guns to be taken away so attempted revolutions like what happened in kenosha won't have any resistance

I am a gun owner so...

Common sense gun laws aren't communism. If you cant see thats what led to this situation, then we cant really have a conversation.

If you think only one side has guns and that gun laws will only apply to republicans, I think you are severly severly mistaken. Lookup "Not Fucking Around Coalition" (https://www.google.com/search?q=not+fuckign+around+coalition&rlz=1C1OPNX_enUS940US940&sxsrf=AOaemvIjLmcaoSNsMxyKWsFox0EIuwEcRw:163647945 0789&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwiwquKC6Yv0AhWRLs0KHXj0DuMQ_AUoAXoECAEQA w&biw=1920&bih=975&dpr=1) sometime.

Are you pro civil war? Pro vigilantism?

[walfreyydo]

Yeah, but Kyle was exhibiting extensive training. And yes it is perfectly reasonable to assume that an aggressive, angry mob chasing you will use your weapon against you if they infact get it. Once they get your weapon, they are no longer "unarmed". People use the term "unarmed" as if it's a magic get out of jail free card. "Unarmed" is by no means synonymous with "non-lethal".

People say this about police shootings all the time, like mike brown. "Why did you shoot him?? He was unarmed! All he was doing was trying to wrestle your gun away from you while weighing about 100 lbs more than you do!!". Like wtf is he supposed to do? Wait until his gun is stolen and he's been shot in the head to react??

17 year old watching videos on youtube wanting to play Johnny Militia dont constitute training.

[Jibartik]

I think there should be a law that says if two parties are carrying a weapon, one party is allowed to declare a duel.

17 year old watching videos on youtube wanting to play Johnny Militia dont constitute training.

actually the videos during the trial made me realize kyle was actually pretty well mannered despite looking like a school shooter.

[walfreyydo]

I think there should be a law that says if two parties are carrying a weapon, one party is allowed to declare a duel.



actually the videos during the trial made me realize kyle was actually pretty well mannered despite looking like a school shooter.

Naive and stupid.

[Jibartik]

nah you're just misinformed dont be so hard on yourself, but which of those two totally separate points upset you?

[starkind]

Planet of Apes:2 the old one. Amiright?

[Elizondo]

I am a gun owner so...

Common sense gun laws aren't communism. If you cant see thats what led to this situation, then we cant really have a conversation.

If you think only one side has guns and that gun laws will only apply to republicans, I think you are severly severly mistaken. Lookup "Not Fucking Around Coalition" (https://www.google.com/search?q=not+fuckign+around+coalition&rlz=1C1OPNX_enUS940US940&sxsrf=AOaemvIjLmcaoSNsMxyKWsFox0EIuwEcRw:163647945 0789&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwiwquKC6Yv0AhWRLs0KHXj0DuMQ_AUoAXoECAEQA w&biw=1920&bih=975&dpr=1) sometime.

Are you pro civil war? Pro vigilantism?

Bro I don't care if you own a gun

Doesn't give you the right to take away someone else's gun. Your buzzwords like 'common sense' gun laws mean nothin to me. what led to the situation were hammer and sickle scum rioting, lootin and burnin down businesses tryin to start a revolution

[walfreyydo]

Bro I don't care if you own a gun

Doesn't give you the right to take away someone else's gun. Your buzzwords like 'common sense' gun laws mean nothin to me. what led to the situation were hammer and sickle scum rioting, lootin and burnin down businesses tryin to start a revolution

Seems like you have a very hard understanding complex issues

[Elizondo]

Seems like you have a very hard understanding complex issues

blah blah blah

[Trexller]

My message to anti-gun lefties: There are more guns in the U.S.A. than there are people.

Come n' Get 'em.

Too late, Pandora's box is open, but only because you left it open too long. If you wanted our guns you shoulda started 100 years ago.

[Elizondo]

It's my God-given right as an American to cross state lines with an illegal weapon to hunt the most dangerous game

Naw man

He was protectin minority owned biz from hammer and sickle scum tryin to burn them down

Dude a hero

[Horza]

After MTG called the 13 Republicans who voted for the bipartisan infrastructure bill “traitors” and tweeted their phone numbers, Fred Upton (R-Mich.) said he has received threats of violence.

[Elizondo]

After MTG called the 13 Republicans who voted for the bipartisan infrastructure bill “traitors” and tweeted their phone numbers, Fred Upton (R-Mich.) said he has received threats of violence.

RINO squish always pretend to be victims after gettin kickbacks from backroom deals

[Trexller]

After MTG called the 13 Republicans who voted for the bipartisan infrastructure bill “traitors” and tweeted their phone numbers, Fred Upton (R-Mich.) said he has received threats of violence. (https://thehill.com/homenews/house/580666-gop-rep-shares-threatening-voicemail-after-infrastructure-vote)

George Washington also received threats of violence. His work turned out pretty good.

[Horza]

RINO squish always pretend to be victims after gettin kickbacks from backroom deals

The GOP has become a literal party of terrorists and their cheerleaders like yourself (Y'all Qaeda).

[Trexller]

The GOP has become a literal party of terrorists and their cheerleaders like yourself (Y'all Qaeda).

over the past couple years, how many cities and towns did right-wingers smash and burn their way through? in the name of peace, of course.

[Horza]

Rep. Paul Gosar tweeted a video which uses the theme music and some scenes from the opening credits of the first season of the anime series Attack on Titan, interspersed with footage of migrants, refugees, and border cops.

In one scene during the minute-and-a-half video, a character with Gosar’s face photoshopped uses a sword to kill a titan with AOC’s photoshopped face. (https://twitter.com/RepGosar/status/1457493879003963398)

[Trexller]

Rep. Paul Gosar tweeted a video which uses the theme music and some scenes from the opening credits of the first season of the anime series Attack on Titan, interspersed with footage of migrants, refugees, and border cops.

In one scene during the minute-and-a-half video, a character with Gosar’s face photoshopped uses a sword to kill a titan with AOC’s photoshopped face. (https://twitter.com/RepGosar/status/1457493879003963398)

https://i.imgur.com/g1UsR84.png

its too easy today

[Jibartik]

It'd be weird to be skateboard guy's family and have to explain to people how he died. "well he was at a BLM protest when he saw a scared kid running away with a hunting rifle. So he chased after him to hit him with his skateboard to really send a message about how black lives matter. Then the kid shot him! Unbelievable."

This quote is going to appear in a mass email because I just sent it as one.

[Elizondo]

The GOP has become a literal party of terrorists and their cheerleaders like yourself (Y'all Qaeda).

lol dude

your rhetoric right out of a cartoon

[Horza]

https://i.imgur.com/g1UsR84.png

its too easy today

Remind me when Kathy Griffin became a member of Congress, terrorist cheerleader.

[Jibartik]

I wonder what todays trial would be like if that guy fired his glock instead of peed his pants.

[Trexller]

Remind me when Kathy Griffin became a member of Congress, terrorist cheerleader.

Terrorist Cheerleader:

https://i.imgur.com/7K9gs1x.jpg

[walfreyydo]

over the past couple years, how many cities and towns did right-wingers smash and burn their way through? in the name of peace, of course.

January 6th my bro - short memory?

[Trexller]

January 6th my bro - short memory?

you mean the unguided tour? the one where capital police removed barricades and politely held the doors open? sorry they didn't pay admission to property that citizens own. also your "hero dead cop" died of an unrelated heart matter

jan 6th is the lefties grasping at straws. you wish SO FUCKING BAD that it would have been worse, you'd have a case to open your mouth, but you don't.

also, look up the definition of agent provacateur, and then show me any evidence that trump incited this action.

[Toxigen]

Friendly reminder BLM burned private businesses across multiple cities all summer long a year ago and no one batted an eye.

[Horza]

you mean the unguided tour? the one where capital police removed barricades and politely held the doors open? sorry they didn't pay admission to property that citizens own. also your "hero dead cop" died of an unrelated heart matter

jan 6th is the lefties grasping at straws. you wish SO FUCKING BAD that it would have been worse, you'd have a case to open your mouth, but you don't.

also, look up the definition of agent provacateur, and then show me any evidence that trump incited this action.

They were just peaceful tourists storming the Capitol to stop the peaceful transfer of power and install Trump as president for life (Y'all Qaeda).