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unsunghero
04-20-2022, 10:25 PM
Seriously, can someone explain in layman's, non-gymrat terms why Tucker has naked, young men on his show tanning their balls? And he's also accusing all non-Republicans of being "groomers?"

(too much information alert): I actually did recently used to sunbathe naked in the back yard because I realized it was unattractive to have a pasty white ass and pasty white hairy thighs when hooking up, especially when the girl had a good all over tan. But my neighbors diagonal behind me installed a huge trampoline where their kids can see over the wall at the tops of their jumps, so now I have to time it to when they’re not outside or build some sort of fuckin shield. No privacy in the suburbs…

I already explained the ball thing, it won’t work, just do a cycle of 300-500mg test/week if you want to see what supraphysiological test feels like

robayon
04-20-2022, 10:29 PM
True but you are assuming capitalism is the worship of money. Capitalism is a system of trading goods and services.Why did you say capitalism is worship of wealth, power and materialism twice in a row that's weird

starkind
04-20-2022, 10:30 PM
Isn't like mammon or... or asmodeous or mephohistopheles or whatever the big boss contract devil?

Contracts are like super bad usually and a massive tool in use under capitalism today...they are worse than herpes.

Gravydoo II
04-20-2022, 10:31 PM
So whos gonna make the Matt Gaetz is a Groomer account on twitter?

Wait wasnt Milo Yannopolis a groomer? Didnt you guys love him for a while? lolol

Reiwa
04-20-2022, 10:32 PM
Why did you say capitalism is etc etc and materialism twice in a row that's weird

Isn't it ironic coming from a dialectical materalist? (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dialectical_materialism) 🤔

starkind
04-20-2022, 10:34 PM
Could I tan my balls with a fire pit? Like not too close, like making smores...I think no since it's not UV light? 🔥

You could use the fire to generate steam and the steam to generate electricity.

Pretty sure UV isn't ez to make safely without electricity.

unsunghero
04-20-2022, 10:38 PM
You can get a red light bulb off Amazon for like $20 and use that, Reiwa. I’d look up the best wavelength to stay above for the light to penetrate as far as possible through skin

I would recommend for the sake of science taking a blood test before, use it every day for 15-20 minutes for a month, then a blood test after at the same time of day. See if your level changed. It probably won’t much, but you never know

Red light therapy is useful for healing scars, any skin issues, and there’s a lot of testimonials that it helps with joint issues and muscle soreness as well

starkind
04-20-2022, 10:40 PM
I see a new product!

robayon
04-20-2022, 10:41 PM
Isn't it ironic coming from a dialectical materalist? (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dialectical_materialism) 🤔That's great, I'm not a Marxist and there's far better forms of criticism of Marxism than materialism by itself

Adam Smith didn't seem to care for the idea of landlords, that doesn't mean that capitalism without landlords would be good either

Reiwa
04-20-2022, 10:45 PM
That's great, I'm not a Marxist

HOW (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PV3_UHG73oQ)

robayon
04-20-2022, 10:48 PM
HOWI do not believe in hierarchy

unsunghero
04-20-2022, 10:51 PM
Or if you want to raise your test by a more significant amount, there’s some drugs that can that aren’t steroids and don’t have the same sort of risks. They’re actually used by steroid users after their cycle where their natural test is in slump, to bring it back up. It’s called post cycle therapy

One is called Nolvadex: “Mean testosterone levels increased with 10 mg (by 28.6 12.8%; P 0.05) and 20 mg (by 52 14.2%; P 0.01) of tamoxifen. The overall treatment effect on testosterone levels during tamoxifen was greater than with raloxifene treatment (P 0.05)

One is called clomid: “How Does Clomid Boost Testosterone? Clomid works by blocking estrogen at the pituitary and hypothalamus. So, with Clomid on board, the estrogen message to “stop stop stop” production of LH is silenced, and the pituitary makes more LH, increasing the “go go go” to produce testosterone in the testes”

Those are pills, and the absolute strongest way to raise natural levels of test (steroids are exogenous, aka not natural test), is to inject HCG:

“In men, doctors prescribe hCG to help address the symptoms of hypogonadism, such as low testosterone and infertility. hCG can help the body increase its production of testosterone and sperm, which can help reduce infertility”

Reiwa
04-20-2022, 10:52 PM
I do not believe in hierarchy

Do you mean you don't think it exists or do you mean you don't like it?

Rethalis
04-20-2022, 10:54 PM
Why did you say capitalism is worship of wealth, power and materialism twice in a row that's weird

I didn't. I reject your premise of capitalism being the worship of wealth, power and materialism. Loving money and needing money are two different things.

robayon
04-20-2022, 11:03 PM
Do you mean you don't think it exists or do you mean you don't like it?I don't like it, it obviously exists and sometimes it's even necessary

I didn't. I reject your premise of capitalism being the worship of wealth, power and materialism. Loving money and needing money are two different things.That's fine, we're all entitled to our opinions, even the naive ones. I need money too, but if I could do away with the need for it I would

Reiwa
04-20-2022, 11:07 PM
I don't like it, it obviously exists and sometimes it's even necessary

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Horza
04-20-2022, 11:18 PM
I see a new product!

Give Alex Jones a month or two, Fox News hasn't even released Tucker's testicle documentary yet.

Patriam1066
04-20-2022, 11:50 PM
Why did you say capitalism is worship of wealth, power and materialism twice in a row that's weird

Meh, gotta come up with something better first

Seems like you’d suggest totalitarianism or a reversion to Hunter-gatherer societal organization. I’d personally rather just fix the excesses we’re experiencing in our current system

robayon
04-21-2022, 12:19 AM
Meh, gotta come up with something better first

Seems like you’d suggest totalitarianism or a reversion to Hunter-gatherer societal organization. I’d personally rather just fix the excesses we’re experiencing in our current systemTick tock tick tock tick tock tick tock tick tock tick tock tick tock

Patriam1066
04-21-2022, 12:21 AM
No suggestions? Didn’t think so

robayon
04-21-2022, 12:33 AM
No suggestions? Didn’t think soI have previously suggested Democratic Confederalism

And trusting the status quo and incrementalism isn't a suggestion either, we are running out of time

Patriam1066
04-21-2022, 12:35 AM
I have previously suggested Democratic Confederalism

And trusting the status quo and incrementalism isn't a suggestion either, we are running out of time

https://aeon.co/essays/the-idea-of-primitive-communism-is-as-seductive-as-it-is-wrong

Homesteaded
04-21-2022, 12:37 AM
I have a buddy who started telling me about distributism, seems sound but as with most systems of organization it gets sloppy at scale.

Patriam1066
04-21-2022, 12:37 AM
We just need to go back to regulations of the 1950s-60s (economic ones). Radicalism isn’t going to fix fundamental structural problems, like how to have economic growth with population decline (has never happened in history, outside of possibly Japan, depending on how you interpret ‘population decline’ and ‘economic growth’)

Gatordash
04-21-2022, 12:39 AM
No suggestions? Didn’t think so

Not really sure what you guys are talking about but term limits in Congress would help our government significantly. Problem is I think Congress would have to vote to give themselves term limits so it will never happen.

Rethalis
04-21-2022, 12:59 AM
I have a buddy who started telling me about distributism, seems sound but as with most systems of organization it gets sloppy at scale.

It will work great once everybody has the same aspiration in life and the world is rid totalitarianism.

Patriam1066
04-21-2022, 01:05 AM
Not really sure what you guys are talking about but term limits in Congress would help our government significantly. Problem is I think Congress would have to vote to give themselves term limits so it will never happen.

That’s an easy fix with some guts from the public and doesn’t require radicalism

A+ buddy

Rethalis
04-21-2022, 01:13 AM
Not really sure what you guys are talking about but term limits in Congress would help our government significantly. Problem is I think Congress would have to vote to give themselves term limits so it will never happen.

Agreed. Pull the plug on public sector unions, along with cooperate lobbying and we would be on our way to big improvement.

Jibartik
04-21-2022, 01:27 AM
We just need to go back to regulations of the 1950s-60s (economic ones). Radicalism isn’t going to fix fundamental structural problems, like how to have economic growth with population decline (has never happened in history, outside of possibly Japan, depending on how you interpret ‘population decline’ and ‘economic growth’)

I agree with this but we need to also become nationalistic because we cant save everyone.

robayon
04-21-2022, 01:37 AM
https://aeon.co/essays/the-idea-of-primitive-communism-is-as-seductive-as-it-is-wrongI am not the one talking about primitivism, you brought that one up

I don't see why a post-capitalist society would need to be primitive or totalitarian, and I am deeply skeptical of incremental change

Jibartik
04-21-2022, 01:45 AM
https://i.imgur.com/OoDV0RP.png

robayon
04-21-2022, 01:49 AM
https://i.imgur.com/OoDV0RP.png

Patriam1066
04-21-2022, 08:14 AM
I am not the one talking about primitivism, you brought that one up

I don't see why a post-capitalist society would need to be primitive or totalitarian, and I am deeply skeptical of incremental change

Took 500 years after the Magna Carta for a group of Anglo-Saxons to form a constitutional republic

Sadly, progress takes times. It was a good article

robayon
04-21-2022, 08:17 AM
Took 500 years after the Magna Carta for a group of Anglo-Saxons to form a constitutional republic

Sadly, progress takes times. It was a good articleI read part of it and will finish it today at work. It is a good article, and that primitive societies were totally egalitarian and equitable is a basic assumption I have been guilty of making myself

I'd support less drastic measures but I do think our window to fix these problems shrinks by the day, and at least within America, as long as the Democrats are what passes for "the left" in politics here they will never really get to the root of the problems

Reiwa
04-21-2022, 09:02 AM
And trusting the status quo and incrementalism isn't a suggestion either, we are running out of time

Why's that?

robayon
04-21-2022, 10:49 AM
Why's that?We've got until maybe 2050 before climate change cascades out of control, including mass crop failures, billions of people in flood zones, billions of people facing lethal heat levels for nearly a month per year, fresh water crises, massive permafrost thaws... you name it. You read The Uninhabitable Earth?

This is also ignoring all of the potential political catastrophes due to wars caused by increasing scarcity and mass migrations

The nationalist types are slowly turning America into a fortress for this very reason, they see the writing on the wall

I hope I'm wrong as hell, but I'll be in my 60's by then if I'm still around and not dead / in prison for being a leftist

Reiwa
04-21-2022, 11:15 AM
We've got until maybe 2050 before climate change cascades out of control, including mass crop failures, billions of people in flood zones, billions of people facing lethal heat levels for nearly a month per year, fresh water crises, massive permafrost thaws... you name it. You read The Uninhabitable Earth?

This is also ignoring all of the potential political catastrophes due to wars caused by increasing scarcity and mass migrations

The nationalist types are slowly turning America into a fortress for this very reason, they see the writing on the wall

I hope I'm wrong as hell, but I'll be in my 60's by then if I'm still around and not dead / in prison for being a leftist

So annex Greenland and Canada, right?

Retvrn to Thvle :p

Jibartik
04-21-2022, 11:32 AM
We've got until maybe 2050 before climate change cascades out of control

FAKE

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why its fake: it's a solar cycle not a man made one

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What's even more shocking: the core samples to prove climate change is real, only go back 2000 years.

DONT believe this lie, within the coming years we will be be living under the antichrists rule.

https://i.imgur.com/T6S7Npx.png

robayon
04-21-2022, 11:35 AM
FAKE

why its fake: it's a solar cycle not a man made one

What's even more shocking: the oldest recorded cores of history to prove climate change is real, only go back 2000 years.

DONT beleive this lie, within the coming years we will be be living under the antichrists rule. Her name is Gretta Thornburgh.I'm gonna go with the scientific consensus on this one, and not the Youtube from the Everquest forums evangelist

robayon
04-21-2022, 11:37 AM
So annex Greenland and Canada, right?

Retvrn to Thvle :pI mean, I'd prefer a peaceful combination of countries rather than an annexation, especially since they'll potentially be breadbaskets by then...

So far, Shadowrun has proven largely correct historical. This also means I would live in the CAS and not UCAS, though, ew

Jibartik
04-21-2022, 11:37 AM
I'm gonna go with the scientific consensus on this one

You misspelled establishment, Mr. Anarchist.

The scientific consensus is that Biden is savior from Trump starting ww3 while we fight in ww3 started under biden.

Reiwa
04-21-2022, 11:44 AM
I'm gonna go with the scientific consensus on this one, and not the Youtube from the Everquest forums evangelist

Is it the scientific consensus that climate change is occurring or is it the scientific consensus that climate change is occurring AND poses an existential threat to humanity?

Jibartik
04-21-2022, 11:47 AM
It's the scientific consensus to make a new world dollar based on your carbon impact/reduction ratio.

robayon
04-21-2022, 11:50 AM
You misspelled establishment, Mr. Anarchist.

The scientific consensus is that Biden is savior from Trump starting ww3 while we fight in ww3 started under biden.Turns out "anarchist" does not necessarily mean "reject absolutely everything that resembles any kind of order no matter what", I'm not a teenager. My wife is definitely above me on the totem pole, my anti-authoritarian views do nothing to change this fact

And political science people are not even in the same league as actual climate scientists, their opinions are usually not relevant to me

Just like when I see a pastor with the prefix "Doctor", and know that this is not the same thing as a doctor practicing medicine

robayon
04-21-2022, 11:53 AM
Is it the scientific consensus that climate change is occurring or is it the scientific consensus that climate change is occurring AND poses an existential threat to humanity?I do not think I can answer this question sufficiently, as I am not one of those scientists. Sure seems to me that it's an existential threat to humanity, or it will cause a lot of things that could be. I mean, even if it doesn't yield an extinction event, things will probably get pretty rough from my understanding. Especially in the countries that didn't actually do the damage to the climate, or very much of it when compared to USA/Europe/China/India and so on

bomaroast
04-21-2022, 11:59 AM
Just imagine the great things that will happen when the sea level overtakes the garbage dumps in coastal towns!

Reiwa
04-21-2022, 12:02 PM
I do not think I can answer this question sufficiently, as I am not one of those scientists. Sure seems to me that it's an existential threat to humanity, or it will cause a lot of things that could be. I mean, even if it doesn't yield an extinction event, things will probably get pretty rough from my understanding. Especially in the countries that didn't actually do the damage to the climate, or very much of it when compared to USA/Europe/China/India and so on

Scientist opinions 1 (https://cliffmass.blogspot.com/2019/08/is-global-warming-existential-threat.html) 2 (https://cliffmass.blogspot.com/2022/04/my-views-on-climate-changeglobal.html)

Jibartik
04-21-2022, 12:16 PM
Turns out "anarchist" does not necessarily mean "reject absolutely everything that resembles any kind of order no matter what", I'm not a teenager. My wife is definitely above me on the totem pole, my anti-authoritarian views do nothing to change this fact

And political science people are not even in the same league as actual climate scientists, their opinions are usually not relevant to me

Just like when I see a pastor with the prefix "Doctor", and know that this is not the same thing as a doctor practicing medicine

why do you reject the idea that the scientific establishment might have bias to ignore studies that discredit studies they find a lot of confirmation bias in?

An age model was extrapolated to the ice core using a firm decompaction model[10]. Deuterium data (δD) were used to reconstruct changes in summer temperature in the McMurdo Dry Valleys over the last 900 years. The study showed that there were three distinct periods: the Medieval Warm Period (1140 to 1287 AD), the Little Ice Age (1288 to 1807 AD) and the Modern Era (1808 to 2000 AD).

Im serious, the data to determine this stuff does not go back far enough to take into account any other arguments than the very small sample size extrapolates 80% of its data from.

It's just looking more and more like the solar cycle has more of an effect on climate than we understood 20 years ago, and this science is often rejected on principal, not science.

bomaroast
04-21-2022, 12:23 PM
Do y'all remember when we were younger and we had to to wipe bugs off the windshield regularly? I do.

Obviously there are still a few places where this is the case, but it's not like I recall, not at all.

bomaroast
04-21-2022, 12:24 PM
Do y'all remember when we were younger and we had to to wipe bugs off the windshield regularly? I do.

Obviously there are still a few places where this is the case, but it's not like I recall, not at all.

Jibartik
04-21-2022, 12:34 PM
Im not disagreeing but there's also some insect invaders in the USA right now that are causing some problems afaik

You seen this guy? He's etomology's most wanted #1

Brown Marmorated Stink Bug

https://i.imgur.com/BzdJwlH.png

Afaik these guys are not native to the USA at all, but are now everywhere. I seen em!

starkind
04-21-2022, 12:34 PM
G-d bless. Today and everyday.

bomaroast
04-21-2022, 12:36 PM
Eventually we'll let go of the idea of invasive species. There will come a time where if it's alive and thriving (and hopefully edible), then god bless it.

Jibartik
04-21-2022, 12:44 PM
god bless eating stink bugs, the messiah we worship is surely not the antichrist.
-people in the near future

robayon
04-21-2022, 12:51 PM
why do you reject the idea that the scientific establishment might have bias to ignore studies that discredit studies they find a lot of confirmation bias in?

Im serious, the data to determine this stuff does not go back far enough to take into account any other arguments than the very small sample size extrapolates 80% of its data from. I don't think that this constitutes disproving climate change, even if the causes aren't fully understood, we're measuring effects. And I don't think assuming they are biased in favor of disaster is reasonable. Shouldn't we be cautious? Shouldn't we use resources more efficiently?

The solar cycle could cause periods of warming, sure, sounds plausible enough on the surface. But that doesn't mean calamities aren't coming. That doesn't mean we should continue destroying the Earth's capacity to host human life.

We're living through a mass extinction right now, regardless of the causes, we should not be doing nothing

Jibartik
04-21-2022, 12:54 PM
Im down with having a clean environment sure, but I am not down with a global WEF carbon dollar where the ultra rich get to have sex dungeon neon signs running 24/7 while we out in the real world have to log off EQ 2 hours a night to reduce our footprint.

That's all this hyperbole from the reactionary scientific community who are no different than you or me comes from.

It's taken the passion good people have for a clean and balanced life, and used it to empower a new world order. Just like the left behind series said would happen.

bomaroast
04-21-2022, 12:57 PM
That over there.. that's hyperbole!

Jibartik
04-21-2022, 01:08 PM
My argument is it's all hyperbole and that we cant determine what's going on right now so setting up a vast network that favors the wealthiest few is not a good cause to support.

MrSparkle001
04-21-2022, 01:10 PM
why do you reject the idea that the scientific establishment might have bias to ignore studies that discredit studies they find a lot of confirmation bias in?



Im serious, the data to determine this stuff does not go back far enough to take into account any other arguments than the very small sample size extrapolates 80% of its data from.

It's just looking more and more like the solar cycle has more of an effect on climate than we understood 20 years ago, and this science is often rejected on principal, not science.

We've had ice ages and warming periods for eons now. The Middle Ages experienced a warming and receding of glaciers, and what's called the Little Ice Age.

Difference is now we are pouring contanimants and greenhouse gases into the atmosphere which is causing it's own problem on top of natural climate changes.

robayon
04-21-2022, 01:12 PM
Im down with having a clean environment sure, but I am not down with a global WEF carbon dollar where the ultra rich get to have sex dungeon neon signs running 24/7 while we out in the real world have to log off EQ 2 hours a night to reduce our footprint.

That's all this hyperbole from the reactionary scientific community who are no different than you or me comes from.I'm less concerned with whatever I have to do to reduce my wasteful lifestyle, which I will generally do because that's not a bad idea. Fly less. Eat less meat, or none at all. Less monoculture, more public transport. All of the standard issue projects that the forces of capital have largely opposed for decades. These things are all minor changes in the grand scheme, I can personally adapt

I am more concerned with the millions who might end up dead because we in the west like to have cheap ranch dressing, cheap shirts at Old Navy or whatever else the hell all of those outsourced workers in factories build to keep our goods artificially cheap. Or disastrous waste in other parts of the world that have no EPA equivalent. Or yet another war for oil or rare earth metals or fresh water

I think that's what is going to be bad. I feel guilty for just being an American, no matter how much I personally change, the companies and governments all around me cause far more death and destruction than I can hope to possibly prevent by changing my habits

Jibartik
04-21-2022, 01:14 PM
We've had ice ages and warming periods for eons now. The Middle Ages experienced a warming and receding of glaciers, and what's called the Little Ice Age.

Difference is now we are pouring contanimants and greenhouse gases into the atmosphere which is causing it's own problem on top of natural climate changes.

None of that is untrue, but it is still using 2000 years of history to determine 800,000+ years of it. On a rock the size of a grain of sand in the vast solar system that surrounds us that we're learning new things about at an exponential rate this last 2 decades.

We have no proof that those contaminants do anything but endanger or kill life in the area they are prevalent in. Not that they create some apocalyptical event with the entire planet.

I dont argue that we shouldnt live in a clean environment, but I do argue that doing that for any other reason to make the world a nicer place to live is brainwashing to get you to think a carbon tax is a good idea, while you organize your trash to feel as if you're part of a united front against the threat of global catastrophy. While the people who made those laws get the credits to fly around the world.

Energy for me but not for the.

Jibartik
04-21-2022, 01:19 PM
I'm less concerned with whatever I have to do to reduce my wasteful lifestyle, which I will generally do because that's not a bad idea. Fly less. Eat less meat, or none at all. Less monoculture, more public transport. All of the standard issue projects that the forces of capital have largely opposed for decades. These things are all minor changes in the grand scheme, I can personally adapt

their face when you volunteer to make sacrifices so you can follow their 10 commandments:

https://i.imgur.com/1Tzx4cI.png

I am more concerned with the millions who might end up dead because we in the west like to have cheap ranch dressing, cheap shirts at Old Navy or whatever else the hell all of those outsourced workers in factories build to keep our goods artificially cheap.

If only personal health was an issue or anti consumerism, instead of organizing your trash so you can reward yourself with unhealthy things and consumerism.

MrSparkle001
04-21-2022, 01:21 PM
None of that is untrue, but it is still using 2000 years of history to determine 800,000+ years of it. On a rock the size of a grain of sand in the vast solar system that surrounds us that we're learning new things about at an exponential rate this last 2 decades.

We have no proof that those contaminants do anything but endanger or kill life in the area they are prevalent in. Not that they create some apocalyptical event with the entire planet.

I dont argue that we shouldnt live in a clean environment, but I do argue that doing that for any other reason to make the world a nicer place to live is brainwashing to get you to think a carbon tax is a good idea, while you organize your trash to feel as if you're part of a united front against the threat of global catastrophy. While the people who made those laws get the credits to fly around the world.

Energy for me but not for the.

Oh I didn't mention the scam that is the carbon tax, or carbon credits.

That is purely a way for some to profit from this. Never let anyone fool you into thinking it's about saving the planet.

Jibartik
04-21-2022, 01:25 PM
Dont question the science! It's peer(adult) reviewed!

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robayon
04-21-2022, 01:30 PM
their face when you volunteer to make sacrifices so you can follow their 10 commandments:

If only personal health was an issue or anti consumerism, instead of organizing your trash so you can reward yourself with unhealthy things and consumerism.I don't follow this argument. Less consumption is good, regardless of why I choose to do it. They overconsume far more than I ever could, obviously, but I can only control myself

I don't think I know what you are suggesting I do differently.

bomaroast
04-21-2022, 01:37 PM
http://www.nist.gov/news-events/news/2022/04/nist-study-shows-everyday-plastic-products-release-trillions-microscopic

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/climate-change-atlantic-ocean-gulf-stream-system-amoc-weakest-1600-years/

https://blog.oup.com/2021/02/dead-zones-growing-areas-of-aquatic-hypoxia-are-threatening-our-oceans-and-rivers/

Problem compounding problems. I could go on and on, with an endless torrent of links about bad things going on with both local and global systems. If you aren't paying enough attention to see the compounding problems, then probably you've made some decision about how to categorize and tuck-away said problems.

When you put it all together, it's not good. There are too many people on the planet using too many resources. The chance to make effective change passed before most of us were born. Now we're just watching it play out.

Jibartik
04-21-2022, 01:42 PM
I don't follow this argument. Less consumption is good, regardless of why I choose to do it. They overconsume far more than I ever could, obviously, but I can only control myself

I don't think I know what you are suggesting I do differently.

Its not good though, that's the con.

Less consumerism on a level you're talking about is pointless. And puts you you into a state of mental duress.

The entire modern generation was built on the concept of anti consumerism, and look what they let their kids do with cellphones.

You're making these sacrifices to feel as though you are helping but even you admit that they overconsume far more than you ever could.

So what exactly are you doing?

You're doing a religious ritual.

And the real crime is that, when people are convinced to make these sacrafices that others are not, the ones that are not, gain great advantage over the ones who do.

The more that do, the fewer of those that dont, and the more and more power they gain.

Self help is great, for the self.

But to misconstrued it for for the greater good, or that it has an effect on the greater good, only encourages more and more of a power imbalance for those that do the most harm.

Jibartik
04-21-2022, 01:47 PM
When you put it all together, it's not good. There are too many people on the planet using too many resources. The chance to make effective change passed before most of us were born. Now we're just watching it play out.

I like this song.

One of two things is happening:

The above statement is a secularists guide to the apocalypse.

In the other corner, is a glowing man riding a glass panel with a giant eyeball floating over his head, and he has a message, "You will convince yourself to bring the apocalypse from your fear of the apocalypse"

The great news for nihilists like me is that either way our planet is doomed.

DOOOOMEED.

Reiwa
04-21-2022, 01:49 PM
commies win this topic

lame

bomaroast
04-21-2022, 01:50 PM
I don't have children, my opinion doesn't really matter. It's good to help others along the path to acceptance though. Good luck y'all.

robayon
04-21-2022, 01:50 PM
If I go volunteer at a shelter because I want to feel good about myself, and not necessarily help people out of pure altruism, would you try to convince me not to go because my motives aren't pure, Jib?

MrSparkle001
04-21-2022, 01:51 PM
When you put it all together, it's not good. There are too many people on the planet using too many resources. The chance to make effective change passed before most of us were born. Now we're just watching it play out.

So we need another major war that wipes out a good percentage of the population?

That does seem to be how the planet keeps itself balanced.

Jibartik
04-21-2022, 01:53 PM
I don't have children, my opinion doesn't really matter. It's good to help others along the path to acceptance though. Good luck y'all.

Yeah you should feel comfortable throwing garbage out your car window compared to the average parent.

Yet they would have you make more sacrifices than they, and you've been convinced to say you like it!

Hope this gets you into your religions heaven!

Jibartik
04-21-2022, 01:57 PM
So we need another major war that wipes out a good percentage of the population?

That does seem to be how the planet keeps itself balanced.

Think about it like a forest.

The trees grow, and shed their leaves, and under their sunlit canopy, below the rot grows and grows.

Eventually a spark begins to spread a flame and soon the rot below fuels the consumption of the tree tops above.

And then the cycle continues.

If man is not a child of god, what would make us any different than a forest?

bomaroast
04-21-2022, 01:57 PM
So we need another major war that wipes out a good percentage of the population?

It doesn't matter what we as individuals or as a society do. The chance to make change passed decades ago. There has never been an easier or better time to be zen.

As it turns out, the solution to pollution was not dilution.

Jibartik
04-21-2022, 02:00 PM
There has never been an easier or better time to be zen.

Our generation will die in a fire, or be swept up into the sky.

Finally, both science and religion agree.

What more proof would one need than that?

Gatordash
04-21-2022, 02:21 PM
lol.

CNN+ Is Shutting Down One Month After Launch (https://variety.com/2022/tv/news/cnn-plus-shut-down-warner-bros-discovery-1235237913/)

Reiwa
04-21-2022, 02:33 PM
lol.

CNN+ Is Shutting Down One Month After Launch (https://variety.com/2022/tv/news/cnn-plus-shut-down-warner-bros-discovery-1235237913/)

Wonder what they get to carry forward as a loss.

Trexller
04-21-2022, 02:45 PM
lol.

CNN+ Is Shutting Down One Month After Launch (https://variety.com/2022/tv/news/cnn-plus-shut-down-warner-bros-discovery-1235237913/)

yet another piece of evidence that 81 million people didn't vote for biden.

not even .1% of those voters signed up for CNN+

Jibartik
04-21-2022, 03:05 PM
lol.

CNN+ Is Shutting Down One Month After Launch (https://variety.com/2022/tv/news/cnn-plus-shut-down-warner-bros-discovery-1235237913/)

Hope this creates a situation where Elon buys CNN

MrSparkle001
04-21-2022, 03:07 PM
lol.

CNN+ Is Shutting Down One Month After Launch (https://variety.com/2022/tv/news/cnn-plus-shut-down-warner-bros-discovery-1235237913/)

Maybe this is the beginning of them pivoting away from the partisan hackery and back to actual news? Lord knows we desperately need that.

Gatordash
04-21-2022, 03:22 PM
Maybe this is the beginning of them pivoting away from the partisan hackery and back to actual news? Lord knows we desperately need that.

I think that is what their new CEO has been saying. But I doubt it.

Gravydoo II
04-21-2022, 03:38 PM
why do you reject the idea that the scientific establishment might have bias to ignore studies that discredit studies they find a lot of confirmation bias in?



Im serious, the data to determine this stuff does not go back far enough to take into account any other arguments than the very small sample size extrapolates 80% of its data from.

It's just looking more and more like the solar cycle has more of an effect on climate than we understood 20 years ago, and this science is often rejected on principal, not science.

Because thats literally what science is. Its what isnt. Its about coming up with a theory, then trying to prove yourself wrong. Then submitting it to your peers to prove wrong. If nobody can prove it wrong, its whats left, the truth. If you can change a field with a single discovery, become famous, become a millionaire with a nobel prize in your field, you think they wouldnt do it? LOL

If you had some theory that would turn an established theory over, thats how science works. Newtonian physics were replaced with molecular physics. Physics is slowly being replaced with quantum physics.

You'd become famous over night. You'd also be doing humanity a great service by stopping us from wasting more time and energy on a theory which is wrong. People would be frothing at the mouth to come out with their new theory, there is more incentive to prove something wrong than go along with the status quo.

Science is about proving things wrong. Not saying "this is right forever" when it very well could be wrong. You keep plugging away at it til you're left with nothing but the self evident truth.

Horza
04-21-2022, 03:45 PM
yet another piece of evidence that 81 million people didn't vote for biden.

not even .1% of those voters signed up for CNN+

Their parent company just doesn't want them competing with their other streaming services. Trump lost, stupid.

Gatordash
04-21-2022, 03:59 PM
Their parent company just doesn't want them competing with their other streaming services. Trump lost, stupid.

So roll it into their other streaming service then.

Horza
04-21-2022, 04:05 PM
Maybe this is the beginning of them pivoting away from the partisan hackery and back to actual news? Lord knows we desperately need that.

Can't you retards just be happy watching naked, young men tan their balls on Fox News or does Musk have to buy every outlet to make sure that Trump gets enough airtime?

Gravydoo II
04-21-2022, 05:12 PM
Wait why doesnt trump just use social media?

Reiwa
04-21-2022, 05:23 PM
So roll it into their other streaming service then.

Load it up with debt to create shows, transfer the shows to other service for pennies, declare bankruptcy and profit!

robayon
04-21-2022, 05:34 PM
Maybe this is the beginning of them pivoting away from the partisan hackery and back to actual news? Lord knows we desperately need that.Don't hold your breath

unsunghero
04-21-2022, 05:37 PM
..

robayon
04-21-2022, 05:38 PM
yet another piece of evidence that 81 million people didn't vote for biden.

not even .1% of those voters signed up for CNN+Yeah, that giant conspiracy for which there is no evidence whatsoever is possible

That or you don't at all understand the world around you and its nuances

I wonder which of these two possibilities is the truth, guy who regularly espouses violent fantasies and has the outlook of an angry thirteen year old

Horza
04-21-2022, 05:50 PM
Yeah, that giant conspiracy for which there is no evidence whatsoever is possible

That or you don't at all understand the world around you and its nuances

I wonder which of these two possibilities is the truth, guy who regularly espouses violent fantasies and has the outlook of an angry thirteen year old

Are you seriously telling me that you didn't see the 14 in Biden's recent Tweet? Christ is coming soon, y'all.

Gravydoo II
04-21-2022, 06:23 PM
Devin nunez tried to unmask the cow he was suing.

You're allowed to unmask people. Especially evil people. Why should she be able to broadcast so much hate which results in death threats and harassment without her name being attached to it? So she can dox people, use their names, call them pedophiles.. but if you find out her name, you're doxing her. LOL

Reiwa
04-21-2022, 06:48 PM
Devin nunez tried to unmask the cow he was suing.

You're allowed to unmask people. Especially evil people. Why should she be able to broadcast so much hate which results in death threats and harassment without her name being attached to it? So she can dox people, use their names, call them pedophiles.. but if you find out her name, you're doxing her. LOL

Lorenz had a tearsoaked video within the last month about the same thing happening to her that she has just now done to the LoTT person.

She's a vulgar witch.

unsunghero
04-21-2022, 06:51 PM
I sometimes wonder what I would do if doxxed nationally. The problem is the only ones willing to travel to harass you at your house are the super weirdos

I’d probably stand in my front yard spraying people with my hose trying to ruin their phones they are no doubt filming everything on. The issue would be needing to sleep eventually and not wanting to wake up to the house being vandalized late at night :/

Horza
04-21-2022, 06:55 PM
Personally, I'd go on Fox News a bunch and then get a job for the Babylon Bee to cash in on you morons.

Rethalis
04-21-2022, 08:07 PM
I have previously suggested Democratic Confederalism

And trusting the status quo and incrementalism isn't a suggestion either, we are running out of time

I tried to do some reading on democratic Confederalism. I'm having a really hard time trying to understand what it actually is. From what I've read its a representative democracy based on whatever coalition in a certian community deems needed?

its societal based rather than based on boarders?

other sources explain it more like a direct democracy but past the immediate community layer there are representatives at the higher level meetings? But it gets worse and worse with more and more layers?

It makes much more sense to me if I'm looking at it through a lense in the middle east from where it originated as any semblance of a society over there is big upgrade over their straight up tribal warfare.

I try to imagine how this would work in the west and it just looks like a big downgrade to a regular representative democracy. Doubly so if compared to the united states.

I'm ignorant on it and have only spent about an hour reading about it.

Gravydoo II
04-21-2022, 08:12 PM
I dont think we're talking about the same thing. One is a legal process that reveals the identity of a person.

One is just sending harassing letters, death threats, and violence to them, their family, and friends.

Dont think they are the same thing. Dont see too many cases of "your friends with her on facebook so we're going to harass you too" from the left. Threatening to kill someone is not "doxxing" thats a crime.

You're saying its all the same. Its not. Sending a bomb to your house is not the same thing as revealing your identity online because you're a hate monger.

Gatordash
04-21-2022, 08:17 PM
Are democrats still on board with Dr. Fauci? The guy is going off on this judge who said we don't have to wear masks while travelling. Fine, but Fauci is also saying that a week and a half from now there is sound medical evidence that you don't have to wear masks while travelling. How much more evident do you need to make your power trip?

“So, we are hoping that the inevitable increase in cases which we are seeing are not going to be associated with an increase in hospitalizations,” he said. “So, all of these dynamic things going on at the same time, it was perfectly logical for the CDC to say wait a minute, we were planning on ending this mandate on a certain date, let’s wait a period of time until May 3, which was a very sound public health decision.”

“If you look at the rationale for that, it really is not particularly firm, and we are concerned about that, about courts getting involved in things that are unequivocally a public health decision,” Fauci continued during a CNN+ interview. “This is a CDC issue, should not have been a court issue.”

Patriam1066
04-21-2022, 08:21 PM
I don't think that this constitutes disproving climate change, even if the causes aren't fully understood, we're measuring effects. And I don't think assuming they are biased in favor of disaster is reasonable. Shouldn't we be cautious? Shouldn't we use resources more efficiently?

The solar cycle could cause periods of warming, sure, sounds plausible enough on the surface. But that doesn't mean calamities aren't coming. That doesn't mean we should continue destroying the Earth's capacity to host human life.

We're living through a mass extinction right now, regardless of the causes, we should not be doing nothing

Doesn’t matter. We should reduce pollution and seek renewable energy such that we spend less on importing energy. We also see the political consequences of democratic countries having to rely on importing foreign hydrocarbons (Russia - EU). There really isn’t a pragmatic argument against moving away from fossil fuels. We don’t have the reserves in the West outside of the USA and Canada. Time to go 50% renewable 50% nuclear as quickly as possible until something better comes along. Sadly, nuclear is untenable for a variety of political reasons

All of that said, given where we are and who the shitheads are who possess the hydrocarbons, we should extract ours to the last cubic centimeter of natural gas to fuck over the Russians, Saudis, Iranians, and Venezuelans as much as possible. We should also make sure none of our adversaries are involved in extracted Guyana’s untapped reserves. Monroe doctrine baby, hands off this hemisphere Orcs

Jibartik
04-21-2022, 08:27 PM
All of you are going to be stuck at home trying to save your carbon dollars for the weekend trip in 4 years if trump isnt elected.

You're all coviding out about the environment.

I've been conscious for 40+ years of "Total flooding 10 years" "all bees in 10 years" "The west coast will become a desert in 10 years!" "we're all going to freeze in 10 years"

It's all bullshit.

Or it's all in the bible.

1 or the other.

Gravydoo II
04-21-2022, 08:30 PM
I thought you guys hated "activist judges"

Horza
04-21-2022, 08:31 PM
Are democrats still on board with Dr. Fauci? The guy is going off on this judge who said we don't have to wear masks while travelling. Fine, but Fauci is also saying that a week and a half from now there is sound medical evidence that you don't have to wear masks while travelling. How much more evident do you need to make your power trip?

Are Republicans still on board with injecting bleach based on the recommendation of a reality television grifter?

Jibartik
04-21-2022, 08:32 PM
Thanks for reminding me who will be your next president because you cant let him go.

Gatordash
04-21-2022, 08:37 PM
Are Republicans still on board with injecting bleach based on the recommendation of a reality television grifter?

We've been wearing masks on planes for 2+ years. Fauci is saying there is scientific evidence that we should wear them now but by May 3 there is scientific evidence to say its okay not to wear them. Just put the word science or evidence in front of anything and democrats will believe it.

Rethalis
04-21-2022, 08:39 PM
We've been wearing masks on planes for 2+ years. Fauci is saying there is scientific evidence that we should wear them now but by May 3 there is scientific evidence to say its okay not to wear them. Just put the word science or evidence in front of anything and democrats will believe it.

lol

Reiwa
04-21-2022, 08:51 PM
I tried to do some reading on democratic Confederalism. I'm having a really hard time trying to understand what it actually is. From what I've read its a representative democracy based on whatever coalition in a certian community deems needed?

its societal based rather than based on boarders?

other sources explain it more like a direct democracy but past the immediate community layer there are representatives at the higher level meetings? But it gets worse and worse with more and more layers?

It makes much more sense to me if I'm looking at it through a lense in the middle east from where it originated as any semblance of a society over there is big upgrade over their straight up tribal warfare.

I try to imagine how this would work in the west and it just looks like a big downgrade to a regular representative democracy. Doubly so if compared to the united states.

I'm ignorant on it and have only spent about an hour reading about it.

Short answer: he's PKK (https://www.state.gov/foreign-terrorist-organizations/)

Rethalis
04-21-2022, 08:59 PM
Short answer: he's PKK (https://www.state.gov/foreign-terrorist-organizations/)

Not suprising. USA and turkey are on ok relations right now. Im extremely skeptical of any group that has "workers party" in their title.

UAVImvzFhXI

Reiwa
04-21-2022, 09:31 PM
Sadly, nuclear is untenable for a variety of political reasons

Biden launches $6B effort to save distressed nuclear plants (https://apnews.com/article/climate-business-environment-nuclear-power-us-department-of-energy-2cf1e633fd4d5b1d5c56bb9ffbb2a50a?utm_medium=AP&utm_source=Twitter&utm_campaign=SocialFlow)

https://i.imgur.com/RRYrMv8.gif

Swish
04-21-2022, 09:53 PM
We've been wearing masks on planes for 2+ years. Fauci is saying there is scientific evidence that we should wear them now but by May 3 there is scientific evidence to say its okay not to wear them. Just put the word science or evidence in front of anything and democrats will believe it.

It was the same in the UK and a few other places... if you put "science" in a sentence you've made a great case for any agenda :o

unsunghero
04-21-2022, 10:19 PM
Whose job?

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=trv9TF2OZFQ

Kaveh
04-21-2022, 10:43 PM
Elon isn’t going to save us. He’s a Russian oligarch. Elon even means “idea thief” in its original Hebrew

Reiwa
04-21-2022, 10:47 PM
Elon isn’t going to save us. He’s a Russian oligarch. Elon even means “idea thief” in its original Hebrew

Google says oak tree? :confused:

Kaveh
04-21-2022, 10:48 PM
Google says oak tree? :confused:

Really? I thought it meant idea thief or autistic man late to jump on the Austin, TX bandwagon. Oak tree sounds reasonable. What about Musk?

Reiwa
04-21-2022, 10:52 PM
Really? I thought it meant idea thief or autistic man late to jump on the Austin, TX bandwagon. Oak tree sounds reasonable. What about Musk?

I googled it

The origin of the word musk go back to the Sanskrit mushkas, "testicle"

robayon
04-21-2022, 11:02 PM
Not suprising. USA and turkey are on ok relations right now. Im extremely skeptical of any group that has "workers party" in their title.Reiwa does not speak for me. Reiwa is just mad that I used to use the PKK flag as an avatar and that I like the IWW too. I have never even met a member of the PKK. The US Dept of State's designation of terrorist organizations is meaningless.

I'm more familiar with Bookchin than Ocalan. I don't know what you were reading that you were not understanding, but I read The Ecology of Freedom a long time ago and do suggest it. It covers his entire philosophy pretty well. I've seen this referred to as Communalism, Democratic Confederalism (via the PKK, or Apoism as they might call it), Libertarian Socialism, Anarcho-Communism, Green Anarchism, blah blah blah endless names for everything, I don't like getting tripped up too much over names for nebulous and malleable concepts like political/economic systems

https://pulitzercenter.org/stories/bizarre-and-wonderful-murray-bookchin-eco-anarchist

https://www.rudaw.net/english/middleeast/syria/21042016

I do not claim perfection in any of this or anything at all in general, just that it's an interesting synthesis of a lot of the -isms with an actual real-life working example to look at and possibly learn from. It would not be easy to graft on anything like this within America, but nothing worth doing is easy

Trexller
04-21-2022, 11:10 PM
Elon isn’t going to save us. He’s a Russian oligarch. Elon even means “idea thief” in its original Hebrew

I googled it

The origin of the word musk go back to the Sanskrit mushkas, "testicle"

so the name "Elon Musk" means "stolen testicle"?

or, does "Elon Musk" mean, "theif who stole testicle idea"

Reiwa
04-21-2022, 11:18 PM
Reiwa does not speak for me. Reiwa is just mad that I used to use the PKK flag as an avatar and that I like the IWW too. I have never even met a member of the PKK. The US Dept of State's designation of terrorist organizations is meaningless

It does have meaning so be more careful about what flags you fly going forward. 🇺🇲

Rethalis
04-21-2022, 11:20 PM
Reiwa does not speak for me. Reiwa is just mad that I used to use the PKK flag as an avatar and that I like the IWW too. I have never even met a member of the PKK. The US Dept of State's designation of terrorist organizations is meaningless.

I'm more familiar with Bookchin than Ocalan. I don't know what you were reading that you were not understanding, but I read The Ecology of Freedom a long time ago and do suggest it. It covers his entire philosophy pretty well. I've seen this referred to as Communalism, Democratic Confederalism (via the PKK, or Apoism as they might call it), Libertarian Socialism, Anarcho-Communism, Green Anarchism, blah blah blah endless names for everything, I don't like getting tripped up too much over names for nebulous and malleable concepts like political/economic systems

https://pulitzercenter.org/stories/bizarre-and-wonderful-murray-bookchin-eco-anarchist

https://www.rudaw.net/english/middleeast/syria/21042016

I do not claim perfection in any of this or anything at all in general, just that it's an interesting synthesis of a lot of the -isms with an actual real-life working example to look at and possibly learn from. It would not be easy to graft on anything like this within America, but nothing worth doing is easy

I get caught up in terminology a lot because I think definitions are important. I watched YouTube and read some articles and the ones I was reading expected you know every varient and offshoot of a political science structure tacked onto it and made it sound like a bunch of regurgitated words rather than explain how it's actually structured.

Kaveh
04-21-2022, 11:28 PM
Kurd rhymes with turd. Coincidence?

Trexller
04-21-2022, 11:51 PM
Kurd rhymes with turd. Coincidence?

just apt, yet happy accident.

Rethalis
04-22-2022, 01:05 AM
Reiwa does not speak for me. Reiwa is just mad that I used to use the PKK flag as an avatar and that I like the IWW too. I have never even met a member of the PKK. The US Dept of State's designation of terrorist organizations is meaningless.

I'm more familiar with Bookchin than Ocalan. I don't know what you were reading that you were not understanding, but I read The Ecology of Freedom a long time ago and do suggest it. It covers his entire philosophy pretty well. I've seen this referred to as Communalism, Democratic Confederalism (via the PKK, or Apoism as they might call it), Libertarian Socialism, Anarcho-Communism, Green Anarchism, blah blah blah endless names for everything, I don't like getting tripped up too much over names for nebulous and malleable concepts like political/economic systems

https://pulitzercenter.org/stories/bizarre-and-wonderful-murray-bookchin-eco-anarchist

https://www.rudaw.net/english/middleeast/syria/21042016

I do not claim perfection in any of this or anything at all in general, just that it's an interesting synthesis of a lot of the -isms with an actual real-life working example to look at and possibly learn from. It would not be easy to graft on anything like this within America, but nothing worth doing is easy

Thank you. These links made a lot more sense. Ill put ecology of freedom on my book list. I already have a lot of preconceived notions as I firmly believe the constitutional republic in its current western iteration is the peak and limit of how humanity can organize itself. Nothing was better before it, nothing will be better after it.

some basic truths that I view all of humanity through.

*Humans organize themselves in hierarchical manners. They will do it consciously or un-consciously.

*Humans make choices that will make them happy.

*The individual will always take prominence over the collective.

*Judeo-christian values temper the individual to better the collective.

*Tryanny and Oppression will always exist.

Any form of governance with the extreme diversity of the united states that ignores one of the above is doomed to fail.

Kaveh
04-22-2022, 01:16 AM
^not a bad post

I don’t agree 100% but I do think most of it is true

Gravydoo II
04-22-2022, 08:18 AM
Why is libs of tiktok scrubbing their account of all their videos and important "news" they posted over the years???
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fGticV_pd4w

Weird. After her name was unmasked, now she doesnt want to be known as the "groomer lady" or known as the woman who accused dozens of people of being pedophiles without any evidence at all, AKA defaming them.

So now, she can face legal consequences for defamation because people know her name. Now shes trying to get rid of the evidence. Why?? I thought she was doing a service to the world.

The teachers she made the videos about now receive death threats and have to employ security at their meetings for fear of having their entire families killed, like the threats say.

Reiwa
04-22-2022, 09:51 AM
Why is libs of tiktok scrubbing their account of all their videos and important "news" they posted over the years???
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fGticV_pd4w

Weird. After her name was unmasked, now she doesnt want to be known as the "groomer lady" or known as the woman who accused dozens of people of being pedophiles without any evidence at all, AKA defaming them.

So now, she can face legal consequences for defamation because people know her name. Now shes trying to get rid of the evidence. Why?? I thought she was doing a service to the world.

The teachers she made the videos about now receive death threats and have to employ security at their meetings for fear of having their entire families killed, like the threats say.

I think it's cuz she sees the Tiki torches you folks are carrying. (https://www.timesofisrael.com/twitter-activist-behind-far-right-libs-of-tiktok-revealed-to-be-us-orthodox-jew/)

starkind
04-22-2022, 10:07 AM
*pokes* Reiwa

starkind
04-22-2022, 10:12 AM
I think it's cuz she sees the Tiki torches you folks are carrying. (https://www.timesofisrael.com/twitter-activist-behind-far-right-libs-of-tiktok-revealed-to-be-us-orthodox-jew/)

Also this is the spacejew ad I got

jD5gRGwfrUI

After clicking ur link :p :o

Looks kinda fun!

Jibartik
04-22-2022, 10:15 AM
lol burn the book gravy buuuuuurn the witch and the books!!!

starkind
04-22-2022, 10:24 AM
Yeah. Sorry that card game was grooming.

Guys u can't be hypocritical. Teachers shouldn't be playing pronouns games with 5 years olds.

Gravydoo II
04-22-2022, 12:41 PM
I think it's cuz she sees the Tiki torches you folks are carrying. (https://www.timesofisrael.com/twitter-activist-behind-far-right-libs-of-tiktok-revealed-to-be-us-orthodox-jew/)

Now shes a victim of anti-Semitism???? Didnt know it was part of the jewish religion to make tiktok accounts, lie about dozens of people, try to get them fired, killed, at least harassed and send death threats.

Maybe they will put that on her gravestone after shes gunned down in the street by some hero. Where is Kyle when you need him?

Jibartik
04-22-2022, 12:45 PM
No because you sound dangerous and obsessed you're talking about her gravestone and gunning her down.

Reiwa
04-22-2022, 12:57 PM
Now shes a victim of anti-Semitism???? Didnt know it was part of the jewish religion to make tiktok accounts, lie about dozens of people, try to get them fired, killed, at least harassed and send death threats.

Maybe they will put that on her gravestone after shes gunned down in the street by some hero. Where is Kyle when you need him?

I guess I don't understand why WaPo felt the need to include that little factoid in their bullying campaign.

Rethalis
04-22-2022, 01:00 PM
Now shes a victim of anti-Semitism???? Didnt know it was part of the jewish religion to make tiktok accounts, lie about dozens of people, try to get them fired, killed, at least harassed and send death threats.

Maybe they will put that on her gravestone after shes gunned down in the street by some hero. Where is Kyle when you need him?

Seems like a lot of people can't stand having their own grooming videos posted outside of TikTok. Those teachers don't deserve the threats of death but certainly should be barred from teaching ever again. Uncle Jim Bob on the street who talked to a kid about this garbage would be locked up and have to register as a sex offender. Stop defending this nonsense.

Jibartik
04-22-2022, 01:04 PM
Best way to keep the stuff offline that we dont want it is to shut down the power grid.

Gravydoo II
04-22-2022, 01:05 PM
You get what you give.

Its all fun and games til people find out your real name. Then omg.. im a victim! People are harassing me!

Gravydoo II
04-22-2022, 01:10 PM
Seems like a lot of people can't stand having their own grooming videos posted outside of TikTok. Those teachers don't deserve the threats of death but certainly should be barred from teaching ever again. Uncle Jim Bob on the street who talked to a kid about this garbage would be locked up and have to register as a sex offender. Stop defending this nonsense.

But there were no grooming videos.

You mean to tell me you saw videos of teachers "grooming" children, right infront of them like in the classroom, to have sex with them? On video, then the teacher posted it online.

I dont believe you.

bubur
04-22-2022, 01:10 PM
hey, you sounded angry there

kind reminder this is a thread for people who don't care about politics

Gravydoo II
04-22-2022, 01:12 PM
I took sex ed in 6th grade. Ms Paul said penis enters vagina then deposits sperm into the cervix RIGHT INFRONT OF THE CLASSROOM!!!

I WAS GROOMED!!!

She was teaching us to have sex!!! OMG!!!!

Reiwa
04-22-2022, 01:16 PM
I took sex ed in 6th grade. Ms Paul said penis enters vagina then deposits sperm into the cervix RIGHT INFRONT OF THE CLASSROOM!!!

I WAS GROOMED!!!

She was teaching us to have sex!!! OMG!!!!

Prepubescents don't need to know that stuff yet.

Gravydoo II
04-22-2022, 01:16 PM
hey, you sounded angry there

kind reminder this is a thread for people who don't care about politics

You sounded angry there

Does that make any sense?

Jibartik
04-22-2022, 01:19 PM
You sounded angry there

Does that make any sense?

No because he doesn’t and just like everything else that you say it’s not true nor does it make sense.

Hope this helps!

Gravydoo II
04-22-2022, 01:23 PM
Prepubescents don't need to know that stuff yet.

OK so what are the names of the teachers who are teaching kids then actually trying to force themselves on the students, then posting it on tiktok, then having it reposted by libs of tiktok?

If you cant name one to backup this whole thing then you're saying the sky is blue like its that new shit.

Its really easy to redefine a word from something very specific to "anything i dont like they are teaching kids".

Just like they did with CRT. Anything that shows america was founded on racism, omg crt.. 3/5ths compromise, CRT! Slavery, CRT! Ban it! It will make white kids feel bad.. We have to protect their feelings.

Jibartik
04-22-2022, 01:23 PM
Those teachers don't deserve the threats of death but...

Maybe they will put that on her gravestone after shes gunned down in the street by some hero. Where is Kyle when you need him?

Get your accusations straight.

Gatordash
04-22-2022, 01:24 PM
I need a lib to let me know if banning menthol cigarettes is racist or anti racist.

Federal officials finalize a long-awaited plan to ban menthol cigarettes. The health consequences have disproportionately fallen on Black smokers, 85% of whom use menthols.

Like, you are pretty much banning black people from smoking cigarettes, but that's also good right?

Horza
04-22-2022, 01:25 PM
Listen here lib, conservative morons have to threaten to kill teachers or the pedo groomers win.

Gravydoo II
04-22-2022, 01:27 PM
No because he doesn’t and just like everything else that you say it’s not true nor does it make sense.

Hope this helps!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Jo73WL3lgY&ab_channel=jeanneduss

The tears are filling up their glasses...

Elizondo
04-22-2022, 01:33 PM
Listen here lib, conservative morons have to threaten to kill teachers or the pedo groomers win.

"We groomers are the victim" - Horza

Reiwa
04-22-2022, 01:34 PM
OK so what are the names of the teachers who are teaching kids then actually trying to force themselves on the students, then posting it on tiktok, then having it reposted by libs of tiktok?

If you cant name one to backup this whole thing then you're saying the sky is blue like its that new shit.

Its really easy to redefine a word from something very specific to "anything i dont like they are teaching kids".

Just like they did with CRT. Anything that shows america was founded on racism, omg crt.. 3/5ths compromise, CRT! Slavery, CRT! Ban it! It will make white kids feel bad.. We have to protect their feelings.

2. prepare or train (someone) for a particular purpose or activity.
"star pupils who are groomed for higher things"

Horza
04-22-2022, 01:36 PM
"We groomers are the victim" - Horza

lol anyone who calls out your bullshit or didn't vote for Trump is a "groomer."

Jibartik
04-22-2022, 01:36 PM
Listen here lib, conservative morons have to threaten to kill teachers or the pedo groomers win.

Maybe they will put that on her gravestone after shes gunned down in the street by some hero.

Reiwa
04-22-2022, 01:37 PM
Jib content (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Groom_of_the_Stool)

Gravydoo II
04-22-2022, 01:38 PM
I need a lib to let me know if banning menthol cigarettes is racist or anti racist.



Like, you are pretty much banning black people from smoking cigarettes, but that's also good right?

They ban people from smoking crack, heroin, pills, cocaine, weed for a century, and they even tried alcohol for a time.

I dont think it has so much to do with being black as much as its easier to start smoking with menthols because they dont burn so much. Kinda taste like candy, too.

In 2009, Congress enacted the Family Smoking Prevention and Tobacco Control Act, which gave the Food and Drug Administration (FDA) regulatory power over tobacco products and banned all flavored cigarettes—with one significant compromise: menthols could remain on the market. Even as overall cigarette use has fallen over time, menthol cigarettes remain enduringly popular, representing 35 percent of total industry sales.

That figure, 35%.. whew. We're talking about tens of billions of dollars every year.

Jibartik
04-22-2022, 01:39 PM
Wish someone would ban the meth gravy is on to be able to switch from topic to topic with so many walls of text.

starkind
04-22-2022, 01:41 PM
You're all getting groomed to pay taxes for Trumps space force :o

And maybe to be in the space force :o :p if u r like 10 years old.

You'll probably have to get along with asexual and hermaphroditic aliens and some parasites too probably.

Jibartik
04-22-2022, 01:43 PM
Gravy is ready to kill someone over a meme account and he says grooming isnt real.

Horza
04-22-2022, 01:45 PM
Wish someone would ban the meth gravy is on to be able to switch from topic to topic with so many walls of text.

You regularly reply to your own posts multiple times and post lengthy rants about how the number 14 means that your rape daddy is finally about to be reinstated.

Gravydoo II
04-22-2022, 01:45 PM
Someone is writing a book about me.

Jibartik
04-22-2022, 01:48 PM
You regularly reply to your own posts multiple times and post lengthy rants about how the number 14 means that your rape daddy is finally about to be reinstated.

I cant help it if god speaks through me.

Reiwa
04-22-2022, 01:52 PM
You're all getting groomed to pay taxes for Trumps space force :o

And maybe to be in the space force :o :p if u r like 10 years old.

You'll probably have to get along with asexual and hermaphroditic aliens and some parasites too probably.

Words with friends. 🥰

Gatordash
04-22-2022, 01:57 PM
They ban people from smoking crack, heroin, pills, cocaine, weed for a century, and they even tried alcohol for a time.

I dont think it has so much to do with being black as much as its easier to start smoking with menthols because they dont burn so much. Kinda taste like candy, too.

In 2009, Congress enacted the Family Smoking Prevention and Tobacco Control Act, which gave the Food and Drug Administration (FDA) regulatory power over tobacco products and banned all flavored cigarettes—with one significant compromise: menthols could remain on the market. Even as overall cigarette use has fallen over time, menthol cigarettes remain enduringly popular, representing 35 percent of total industry sales.

That figure, 35%.. whew. We're talking about tens of billions of dollars every year.
Thats one way to look at it. But if you take all the smokers who have been smoking for 30+ years and come out with a law that says 85% of the black ones don't get to do it anymore it seems a little racist.

Jibartik
04-22-2022, 01:59 PM
The soda tax is unapologetically a tax on the poor.

Parking violations in a city where the workers have to drive in from out of town, or to use the public transportation, that's just agriculture tactics.

Shit's fuuuucked up, but the libs are working on making sure Amber Turd is heard.

Elizondo
04-22-2022, 02:02 PM
lol anyone who calls out your bullshit or didn't vote for Trump is a "groomer."

Come again? Paste Eater

Jibartik
04-22-2022, 02:04 PM
I love watching the politics thread startup like a jet engine attached to a testing block and then just churn all day then slowly rev down then startup again the next day.

Gatordash
04-22-2022, 02:05 PM
The soda tax is unapologetically a tax on the poor.

Parking violations in a city where the workers have to drive in from out of town, or to use the public transportation, that's just agriculture tactics.

Shit's fuuuucked up, but the libs are working on making sure Amber Turd is heard.

I am against racism but I'm for taxing the poor so I'm okay with it. The poor are too dumb to figure it out anyways so ignorance is bliss.

Jibartik
04-22-2022, 02:36 PM
Im a social conservative and an economic liberal. Think about it, it's the best way to be.

You want to help people.

You want everyone to shuuuuuuuuuuuuuut the f up.

*insert 30 rock link

Rethalis
04-22-2022, 03:11 PM
OK so what are the names of the teachers who are teaching kids then actually trying to force themselves on the students, then posting it on tiktok, then having it reposted by libs of tiktok?

If you cant name one to backup this whole thing then you're saying the sky is blue like its that new shit.

Its really easy to redefine a word from something very specific to "anything i dont like they are teaching kids".

Just like they did with CRT. Anything that shows america was founded on racism, omg crt.. 3/5ths compromise, CRT! Slavery, CRT! Ban it! It will make white kids feel bad.. We have to protect their feelings.

Ang fante

https://www.google.com/amp/s/parentology.com/justine-fonte-teacher/amp/

What are you defending? Are you really supporting first graders should be taught sex ed?

Do you think that people who suffer from mental disorders such as gender disphoria be qualified to teach kids?

Why the fuck does a kindergarten teacher think it's appropriate to make it known to students about who they rub genitals with.


https://www.huffpost.com/entry/florida-teacher-dont-say-gay-bill_n_62441288e4b0d8266aa56082


You are completely wrong about the USA being founded on slavery.


Seriously what are you trying to defend???

Jibartik
04-22-2022, 03:30 PM
well so much for that engine.

Kaveh
04-22-2022, 03:36 PM
The soda tax is unapologetically a tax on the poor.

Parking violations in a city where the workers have to drive in from out of town, or to use the public transportation, that's just agriculture tactics.

Shit's fuuuucked up, but the libs are working on making sure Amber Turd is heard.

When those poor people don’t die of diabetes at age 55, it becomes less of a “tax”

Soda should be banned period. No benefit, disgusting, wasteful. It’s also not present in the Bible

really makes u think

Kaveh
04-22-2022, 03:37 PM
Im a social conservative and an economic liberal. Think about it, it's the best way to be.

You want to help people.

You want everyone to shuuuuuuuuuuuuuut the f up.

*insert 30 rock link

You’re polish or Hungarian then

Ouch

MrSparkle001
04-22-2022, 03:46 PM
When those poor people don’t die of diabetes at age 55, it becomes less of a “tax”

Soda should be banned period. No benefit, disgusting, wasteful. It’s also not present in the Bible

really makes u think

Don't you dare

https://i.imgur.com/S2jaLR8.gif

Horza
04-22-2022, 03:49 PM
I cant help it if god speaks through me.

Fein then pulled up an exhibit that showed Greene saying Pelosi was “a traitor to our country, guilty of treason.” He also asked her about a Facebook comment she appeared to “like” that said a “bullet to the head” would be a quicker way to remove Pelosi from office. “I have had many people manage my social media account,” said Greene, adding that she didn’t know who liked that one. (https://www.vice.com/en/article/bvnenz/marjorie-taylor-greene-tweets-testimony)

Jibartik
04-22-2022, 04:22 PM
When those poor people don’t die of diabetes at age 55, it becomes less of a “tax”

Soda should be banned period. No benefit, disgusting, wasteful. It’s also not present in the Bible

really makes u think

https://i.imgur.com/zVcOvoQ.png

God forbid the poorest people in this country are able to give their kids ONE simple joy in their life.

Kaveh
04-22-2022, 04:53 PM
joy is conditioning

You’ve been conditioned to be a redneck. It can be beaten out of you

Kaveh
04-22-2022, 04:54 PM
Every fruit tastes better than every soda

Elizondo
04-22-2022, 05:06 PM
https://www.clickorlando.com/news/local/2022/04/22/florida-gov-desantis-signs-bill-eliminating-disneys-self-government-some-other-special-districts/

Florida Gov. DeSantis signs bill eliminating Disney’s self-government, some other special districts

17517

starkind
04-22-2022, 05:07 PM
I would rather be Muslim than fat slow stupid and disabled at 40.

bubur
04-22-2022, 05:24 PM
I would rather be Muslim than fat slow stupid and disabled at 40.

https://i.imgur.com/PuG0ih5.jpeg

starkind
04-22-2022, 05:31 PM
Man. That is cruel. I love it tho. 🧕

bubur
04-22-2022, 05:34 PM
no hard feelings, just thought id save you the time

Kaveh
04-22-2022, 05:35 PM
Bubur isn’t Muslim get out of here

Probably sunni or some other pussy shit

Jibartik
04-22-2022, 05:41 PM
Every fruit tastes better than every soda

haha learn to code!

2015 called.

Kaveh
04-22-2022, 06:00 PM
No idea what that means

Bubur’d get clapped after 5 minutes in Iran, confirmed kaffir

Kaveh
04-22-2022, 06:00 PM
No idea what that means

Bubur’d get clapped after 5 minutes in Iran, confirmed kaffir

Gatordash
04-22-2022, 07:17 PM
Two pictures of Republican Rep. Madison Cawthorn (N.C.) shared with Politico show the embattled congressman at what appears to be a party in women’s lingerie.

“I guess the left thinks goofy vacation photos during a game on a cruise (taken waaay before I ran for Congress) is going to somehow hurt me?” Cawthorn said. “They’re running out of things to throw at me…” he added.

Cawthorn is so straight he's comfortable dressing up in women's lingerie on a definitely straight and not gay cruise. IMAGINE THAT LIBS. Cawthorn definitely banged 5-6 super hot chicks on that cruise I'm sure.

starkind
04-22-2022, 07:48 PM
No one can stop me from wearing Hijab.

Kaveh
04-22-2022, 07:51 PM
Cawthorn is so straight he's comfortable dressing up in women's lingerie on a definitely straight and not gay cruise. IMAGINE THAT LIBS. Cawthorn definitely banged 5-6 super hot chicks on that cruise I'm sure.

Hot wheels in North Carolina has some serious issues. Biggest one is he never got his ass kicked

Bad parenting on display

Reiwa
04-22-2022, 08:06 PM
Cutesy nickname to distract you from the bad stuff he did (https://www.cnbc.com/2022/04/22/jack-dorseys-new-title-block-head.html)

Jibartik
04-22-2022, 10:44 PM
"Im going to make a bunch of personal sacrifices for climate change"

Literally the desert:

WTPez2FNMck

starkind
04-22-2022, 11:13 PM
Well. Maybe it'll create an algea bloom!

Bet a lot of those where left there by the US military.

Great music track on that video. Added to my Spotify. Thx jib.

Also ya you should not kill urself to save the earth that's dumb and enables bad ppl. Just do whatever makes u feel better. I drink soymilk. Cuz I enjoy it. And it's not green or planet saving. I also enjoy the karma tho as it's not the worst.

Multi ecosystem like multispecies organic farming is the best tho. We perfected that b4 the greatest flood so idk y G-d let's us hook cows up to machines.

Reiwa
04-23-2022, 12:07 AM
"Im going to make a bunch of personal sacrifices for climate change"

Literally the desert:

WTPez2FNMck

The water spray is pointless, all they have to do is drive a dozer through there 1 time to create a firebreak.

Dunno if Kuwait is a Kyoto signatory. 🤔

starkind
04-23-2022, 12:13 AM
Pretty sure they're not tooo choked up about it.

I'd hate to be right there tho with a gust of wind...

I think the water is evaporative cooling for the dozer, guy driving dozer. It's hot af there even without burning tires.

Reiwa
04-23-2022, 12:26 AM
Pretty sure they're not tooo choked up about it.

I'd hate to be right there tho with a gust of wind...

I think the water is evaporative cooling for the dozer, guy driving dozer. It's hot af there even without burning tires.

Hehe yeah. Paying the 3rd world to burn our garbage is the ultimate carbon credit.

Great! 👍

Jibartik
04-23-2022, 12:28 AM
its all good if each of you make huge sacrifices in your life you can make up for absolutely none of that tirefield!

Rethalis
04-23-2022, 12:37 AM
its all good if each of you make huge sacrifices in your life you can make up for absolutely none of that tirefield!

I didn't use a disposable plastic mask today even though covid still exists

starkind
04-23-2022, 12:52 AM
Hehe yeah. Paying the 3rd world to burn our garbage is the ultimate carbon credit.

Great! 👍

I'm not like super cool with it. No one likes my evil ideas tho. I don't even like them, especially about 4 hrs after posting when I realize enforcement still isn't productive or feasible in most wide scale global scenarios.

So. Uhm. Thots. Prayers. And my carbon footprint isn't that bad so I pat myself on the back.

Almost turned on my personal AC today. Opted not to tho. 💖

Still trying to adapt biologically. So I can laugh myself through the apocalypses. 🦖🦎

Jibartik
04-23-2022, 12:55 AM
Some asshole played Sim City on his SNES and was like, wow if we move all the industry to china then the people in the residential area are happier.

Botten
04-23-2022, 02:09 AM
Florida Gov. DeSantis signs bill eliminating Disney’s self-government...

Damn shame Republicans are doing their best to destroy entertainment for kids like that provided by Disney World; while being linked to the worst GOP Groomers Pedo problems.

Republican Matt Gaetz - FBI: "a subject of interest in an investigation into Under age sex trafficking; Representative in Florida
Republican Anton Lazzaro strategist - Arrested for Underage Sex Trafficking (19 yr old accomplice Ms. Medina arrested in Florida)
Republican Donald Trump - Barged in changing room with 15 yr old contestants in a Teen pageant; Resident of Mar-a-Lago, Florida
Republican Roy Moore - pursuing 14 yr olds at malls; The credibility of his accusers was attacked at a Florida GOP Rally
GOP SC Judge Amy Coney Barrett - overturned a $6.7 million verdict after a prison guard raped a minor; Florida legal team for G.W.B.
Republican Mark Foley - Sent sexual material to minors, wrote letters to the governor and attorney general of Florida.
Republican Jim Jordan - part of a scandal where 177+ student athletes were sexually abused; Campaigning for Matt Gaetz in Florida
Republican Dennis Hastert - plead guilty to a history of sexually abusing high schoolers; Died while living in Florida

Tell me again why you support Republican Groomers Elizondo?

Tethler
04-23-2022, 02:10 AM
Some asshole played Sim City on his SNES and was like, wow if we move all the industry to china then the people in the residential area are happier.

Hahaha. Also, place all the industrial sites and coal power plants on the border so your neighbor gets half of the emissions.

Jibartik
04-23-2022, 03:42 AM
Hahaha. Also, place all the industrial sites and coal power plants on the border so your neighbor gets half of the emissions.

Ive always wanted to see someone do a meme youtube animation where the factories on the north border that go offscreen so you dont have to take any poloution damage from them, zoom out and show that it's canada and they get mad from the polution so they do command and conquer RTS and take over your city.

bubur
04-23-2022, 08:21 AM
starkind i owe you an apology

the truth is yes, you could find a progressive community of practice and fulfill the obligations of islam and become a muslim and be accepted. i hope you can understand my joke was really a reflection on two things a) a quip at your expense yes, and reading back on it, looks like legit gatekeeping of the style that occurs only in anonymous chatrooms, and i think came off much ruder than i anticipated. really a reflection of my own ignorance at the time of writing and wanting a cheap laugh, but also b) the state of trans rights in predominantly islamic communities (at least the ones i've lived in)

it would not be an easy thing for you to do. i wont talk about any other country except the one ive spent the most of my time in, indonesia, where waria culture is hard to miss, but it would be a lie to tell you, yes you can just fit in and no one will harass or bother you. you could uncomfortably hide it, sure, but say you dared to be yourself and reach out to relate emotionally with others, it would be an uphill battle where you'd face constant quizzing and proving yourself and not uncommonly would you be asked to simply 'change' and be a fundamentally a different person. it could be a very aggravating and wholly non-spiritual experience at times, again, depending on if you are able to find a tolerant community. and outside of the practice, there are dominant political parties trying to make your identity a crime. so yes, while possible, it would not be a walk in the park. more respect to you if you were to navigate it. it is simply a country that is has a very different history, and could be considered as living in a different, older era especially in the northwest

all that said, frankly, this quizzing and proving happens to just about everyone in the community, and it's very hard to be perfect for every relative, older person, people you respect. i dont think we're alone in that

so I hope you can accept my apology. in the scheme of things, i do not, nor does anyone else have any ability to outright stop you from being yourself and doing the things you want to do, but it would be dishonest to say that some people wont try... so even if this was all just a joke on a joke, i apologize if i made you feel bad.. and thx kaveh for calling me out so i could reflect on it

starkind
04-23-2022, 09:01 AM
starkind i owe you an apology

the truth is yes, you could find a progressive community of practice and fulfill the obligations of islam and become a muslim and be accepted. i hope you can understand my joke was really a reflection on two things a) a quip at your expense yes, and reading back on it, looks like legit gatekeeping of the style that occurs only in anonymous chatrooms, and i think came off much ruder than i anticipated. really a reflection of my own ignorance at the time of writing and wanting a cheap laugh, but also b) the state of trans rights in predominantly islamic communities (at least the ones i've lived in)

it would not be an easy thing for you to do. i wont talk about any other country except the one ive spent the most of my time in, indonesia, where waria culture is hard to miss, but it would be a lie to tell you, yes you can just fit in and no one will harass or bother you. you could uncomfortably hide it, sure, but say you dared to be yourself and reach out to relate emotionally with others, it would be an uphill battle where you'd face constant quizzing and proving yourself and not uncommonly would you be asked to simply 'change' and be a fundamentally a different person. it could be a very aggravating and wholly non-spiritual experience at times, again, depending on if you are able to find a tolerant community. and outside of the practice, there are dominant political parties trying to make your identity a crime. so yes, while possible, it would not be a walk in the park. more respect to you if you were to navigate it. it is simply a country that is has a very different history, and could be considered as living in a different, older era especially in the northwest

all that said, frankly, this quizzing and proving happens to just about everyone in the community, and it's very hard to be perfect for every relative, older person, people you respect. i dont think we're alone in that

so I hope you can accept my apology. in the scheme of things, i do not, nor does anyone else have any ability to outright stop you from being yourself and doing the things you want to do, but it would be dishonest to say that some people wont try... so even if this was all just a joke on a joke, i apologize if i made you feel bad.. and thx kaveh for calling me out so i could reflect on it

Thank you. No offense was taken. I figure this is an old school place on the web to sorta freely express ourselves. I chastise some people in a playful way if I can and you didn't really do anything to earn my reproach. I know you well enough. And I believe you know me well enough otherwise you wouldn't have.

There are a lot of parts of Islam I admire. Your honesty is much better than painting a false picture.

I get some of that here. I'm facing the prospect of aging and for awhile that puts me in a place where people my age are expected to look a certain way I'm sure right now it's certainly easier for me. Although I'm pretty sure that I could not truly fulfill all my obligations or be a truly good Muslim. That doesn't mean that I don't admire the wisdom that good Muslim bring to the world.

All that said I do not really want to change people. Push a progressive agenda. I joke a lot about communism, I'm rather libertarian with traditional Christian ideals in practice. In life. When I invisibly blend in and be a good person and go with the flow. Earn my keep. Work hard. Do well by others. I am happy. Find true peace. I don't believe many western people have the upbringing or will to move to a Muslim country and just blend in. And go with the flow. No one I know is perfect. So your assertion is fair for most westerners.

I live near a city with a lot of Muslims. And a mosque. So I interact with them semi regularly. That day I had ordered a bagel from a woman in a hijab and I was musing. Because that shop I go to, is owned by an old middle eastern man for many decades and is one of the only few good shops left in an area where places like target and Walmart are trying to pinch out what is left of the small shops. The few Islamic people I have had the pleasure of knowing are all diligent and a cut above the many secular and "lost" youngins who have no faith. It's probably because they are in essence religious and in a sense good people who commit to higher ideals. Not to say there aren't people who try to cheat and steal and do ill and malice who are religious, the Muslim community around here is strong and those people leave elsewhere. The bad religious folks are few. Even among the Christians, there's just so many more of us and basically anyone can say we are Christian even if they have satanic temples at home. Honestly I don't believe Muslim families are that tolerant of that sorta thing.

And maybe to a point that is a good thing.

Again. Thanks )

Elizondo
04-23-2022, 10:53 AM
Damn shame Republicans are doing their best to destroy entertainment for kids like that provided by Disney World; while being linked to the worst GOP Groomers Pedo problems.

Republican Matt Gaetz - FBI: "a subject of interest in an investigation into Under age sex trafficking; Representative in Florida
Republican Anton Lazzaro strategist - Arrested for Underage Sex Trafficking (19 yr old accomplice Ms. Medina arrested in Florida)
Republican Donald Trump - Barged in changing room with 15 yr old contestants in a Teen pageant; Resident of Mar-a-Lago, Florida
Republican Roy Moore - pursuing 14 yr olds at malls; The credibility of his accusers was attacked at a Florida GOP Rally
GOP SC Judge Amy Coney Barrett - overturned a $6.7 million verdict after a prison guard raped a minor; Florida legal team for G.W.B.
Republican Mark Foley - Sent sexual material to minors, wrote letters to the governor and attorney general of Florida.
Republican Jim Jordan - part of a scandal where 177+ student athletes were sexually abused; Campaigning for Matt Gaetz in Florida
Republican Dennis Hastert - plead guilty to a history of sexually abusing high schoolers; Died while living in Florida

Tell me again why you support Republican Groomers Elizondo?

It's just not gonna work, Groomer

Jimjam
04-23-2022, 10:54 AM
starkind i owe you an apology

the truth is yes, you could find a progressive community of practice and fulfill the obligations of islam and become a muslim and be accepted. i hope you can understand my joke was really a reflection on two things a) a quip at your expense yes, and reading back on it, looks like legit gatekeeping of the style that occurs only in anonymous chatrooms, and i think came off much ruder than i anticipated. really a reflection of my own ignorance at the time of writing and wanting a cheap laugh, but also b) the state of trans rights in predominantly islamic communities (at least the ones i've lived in)

it would not be an easy thing for you to do. i wont talk about any other country except the one ive spent the most of my time in, indonesia, where waria culture is hard to miss, but it would be a lie to tell you, yes you can just fit in and no one will harass or bother you. you could uncomfortably hide it, sure, but say you dared to be yourself and reach out to relate emotionally with others, it would be an uphill battle where you'd face constant quizzing and proving yourself and not uncommonly would you be asked to simply 'change' and be a fundamentally a different person. it could be a very aggravating and wholly non-spiritual experience at times, again, depending on if you are able to find a tolerant community. and outside of the practice, there are dominant political parties trying to make your identity a crime. so yes, while possible, it would not be a walk in the park. more respect to you if you were to navigate it. it is simply a country that is has a very different history, and could be considered as living in a different, older era especially in the northwest

all that said, frankly, this quizzing and proving happens to just about everyone in the community, and it's very hard to be perfect for every relative, older person, people you respect. i dont think we're alone in that

so I hope you can accept my apology. in the scheme of things, i do not, nor does anyone else have any ability to outright stop you from being yourself and doing the things you want to do, but it would be dishonest to say that some people wont try... so even if this was all just a joke on a joke, i apologize if i made you feel bad.. and thx kaveh for calling me out so i could reflect on it

impressive post. Much respect to you for making it.

starkind
04-23-2022, 11:09 AM
What about this bullshit? https://www.wfla.com/8-on-your-side/secretary-of-veterans-affairs-foreclosing-on-disabled-tampa-bay-area-vet-but-its-not-the-va/amp/

Rethalis
04-23-2022, 11:23 AM
What about this bullshit? https://www.wfla.com/8-on-your-side/secretary-of-veterans-affairs-foreclosing-on-disabled-tampa-bay-area-vet-but-its-not-the-va/amp/

The debt collection agencies are some of the lowest scum on the earth.

Gatordash
04-23-2022, 11:31 AM
Damn shame Republicans are doing their best to destroy entertainment for kids like that provided by Disney World; while being linked to the worst GOP Groomers Pedo problems.

Republican Matt Gaetz - FBI: "a subject of interest in an investigation into Under age sex trafficking; Representative in Florida
Republican Anton Lazzaro strategist - Arrested for Underage Sex Trafficking (19 yr old accomplice Ms. Medina arrested in Florida)
Republican Donald Trump - Barged in changing room with 15 yr old contestants in a Teen pageant; Resident of Mar-a-Lago, Florida
Republican Roy Moore - pursuing 14 yr olds at malls; The credibility of his accusers was attacked at a Florida GOP Rally
GOP SC Judge Amy Coney Barrett - overturned a $6.7 million verdict after a prison guard raped a minor; Florida legal team for G.W.B.
Republican Mark Foley - Sent sexual material to minors, wrote letters to the governor and attorney general of Florida.
Republican Jim Jordan - part of a scandal where 177+ student athletes were sexually abused; Campaigning for Matt Gaetz in Florida
Republican Dennis Hastert - plead guilty to a history of sexually abusing high schoolers; Died while living in Florida

Tell me again why you support Republican Groomers Elizondo?but how do you know that even happened if they didn’t post a tik tok bragging about it to their gay friends and allies?

Reiwa
04-23-2022, 11:35 AM
The debt collection agencies are some of the lowest scum on the earth.

Owing 190k from 2002 smells fishy.

Jibartik
04-23-2022, 11:56 AM
The debt collection agencies are some of the lowest scum on the earth.

Don't worry Obama bailed out all those debts so-- oh they're still collecting? Huh.

Rethalis
04-23-2022, 11:58 AM
Owing 190k from 2002 smells fishy.

yup. Debt collection agencies act like the scam call centers in India. If they get your information they will file fake shit.

I recieved a debt collection letter for 65 dollars for something related to guitar center. I made my purchase with my debit card at guitar center.

Botten
04-23-2022, 02:09 PM
It's just not gonna work, Groomer when you sympathize with Russian Trolls; they work you.

Besides you already have shown to support theses Republican Pedo Groomers.

Horza
04-23-2022, 02:25 PM
when you sympathize with Russian Trolls; they work you.

Besides you already have shown to support theses Republican Pedo Groomers.

Just lol if you think conservative idiots care about facts or reality while they're screaming the latest talking points from Fox News at people.

Jibartik
04-23-2022, 02:29 PM
The modern right talking about corrupt lending practices.

The modern left swings in to call them idiots listing fox news talking points.

The reason I hated the fox news and conservatives of the 80s-2010s was because they were so anti conversation, anti talking about actual problems, just would shut down conversation and rant about patriotism.

Now the parties flipped, and you have the above 2 posters.

Reiwa
04-23-2022, 02:31 PM
im rubber you're glue

They should have burned Gutenberg.

Elizondo
04-23-2022, 02:43 PM
when you sympathize with Russian Trolls; they work you.

Besides you already have shown to support theses Republican Pedo Groomers.

It's just not gonna work, Groomer

Not sorry you triggered. Maybe don't groom K-3 kids in schools.

Hope that helps

Botten
04-23-2022, 02:55 PM
It's just not gonna work, Groomer

Not sorry you triggered. Maybe don't groom K-3 kids in schools.

Hope that helps

Just like Republican political figures are grooming school athletes and while hustling a sex trafficking ring on the side?

You can look into the mirror Reiwa is holding for you. Sure German mirror whatever.

Horza
04-23-2022, 02:55 PM
I'm sorry you don't understand what grooming is, Groomer

You're trying hard to conquer the meme and failing miserably, Groomer

You've been whining a bit more than usual lately, Groomer

Take it up with him, Groomer

Go eat some horse paste and maybe it will provide some relief, Groomer

CNN+ died so young FL teachers didn't have time to groom them

"We groomers are the victim" - Horza

It's just not gonna work, Groomer

It's just not gonna work, Groomer

Projecting much?

Jibartik
04-23-2022, 02:55 PM
We get it, Jib. You love Tucker's show now because you desperately want to see another civil war in our lifetimes (and naked men).

Dont try to pin this on me, I tried to be friends and but you guys say theyre dividing amaerica with one hand and then call us fascist racists with the other.

Not only have I only voted for the same people as you (supposedly) voted for, you have made it abundantly clear, by telling me online to "kill myself", that you want me dead because of your partisan ideology and politics.

So dont be talking to me about fantasizing about a civil war, you're actually trying to start one.

Elizondo
04-23-2022, 03:02 PM
Just like Republican political figures are grooming school athletes and while hustling a sex trafficking ring on the side?

You can look into the mirror Reiwa is holding for you. Sure German mirror whatever.

You seem really upset babbling about conspiracy theories, Groomer

Maybe eat some horse paste? May provide some relief

Projecting much?

Reeeee!

Horza
04-23-2022, 03:09 PM
Quick, copy and paste the word groomer ten more times while continuing to support the good friend of notorious pedophiles like Epstein.

Elizondo
04-23-2022, 03:12 PM
Quick, copy and paste the word groomer ten more times while continuing to support the good friend of notorious pedophiles like Epstein.

Sorry, I didn't vote for Bill Clinton

Are you agreeing that grooming is bad?

Horza
04-23-2022, 03:15 PM
Trump and Clinton should both probably be sidelined from politics because of their numerous flights on Epstein's Lolita Express (it's just too bad Republicans have no shame).

Jibartik
04-23-2022, 03:21 PM
How noble of you to sacrifice Hillary in exchange for getting rid of your political reckoning.

Elizondo
04-23-2022, 03:22 PM
Trump and Clinton should both probably be sidelined from politics because of their numerous flights on Epstein's Lolita Express (it's just too bad Republicans have no shame).

Orange Super Prez flew to Epstein island?

When?

Botten
04-23-2022, 07:31 PM
Orange Super Prez flew to Epstein island?

When?

https://bipartisanreport.com/2021/12/21/uncovered-flight-logs-allege-trump-flew-with-epstein-many-times/

And yes illegal activity happened in flight

unsunghero
04-23-2022, 08:00 PM
Orange Super Prez flew to Epstein island?

When?

Never

It was called the “Lolita express” because it flew underage girls to the island, not because everywhere it flew not involving the island involved the rape of underage girls. This is according to the pilot who provided the flight records. In fact, every flight not to the island also included other adults and children, who would have probably noticed giant rape orgies if there were any

This is otherwise known as in politically inconvenient facts for Dems, so it will be filed under Russian Misinformation

Horza
04-23-2022, 08:37 PM
Trump being a regular on a notorious pedophile's private plane isn't Russian misinformation.

unsunghero
04-23-2022, 08:39 PM
In other news, I beamed on Tik Tok about how I explained I don’t identify as a boy to my class of little kids, because my lack of other accomplishments in life has left my ever fluid gender identity as one of my only important characteristics, and the validation of it by little children in addition to people I don’t know on social media is my entire sense of self-worth

unsunghero
04-23-2022, 08:42 PM
Trump being a regular on a notorious pedophile's private plane isn't Russian misinformation.

You see when crimes are committed you need to prove them with a little something called “evidence”. Having other adults and children who aren’t billionaire pedophiles on the plane as possible witnesses to the crime could be evidence. Yet there were no testimonies given

So where’s the evidence. This is why I never have visited the holocaust museum. Because I hear if you look at the holocaust museum you have just incriminated yourself as committing the holocaust

Rethalis
04-23-2022, 08:46 PM
You see when crimes are committed you need to prove them with a little something called “evidence”. Having other adults and children who aren’t billionaire pedophiles on the plane as possible witnesses to the crime could be evidence. Yet there were no testimonies given

So where’s the evidence. This is why I never have visited the holocaust museum. Because I hear if you look at the holocaust museum you have just incriminated yourself as committing the holocaust

Stop perpetuating the hetronormal-anglo-imperialist-racist-patriarchy

Jibartik
04-23-2022, 08:47 PM
who gives a shit nobody is convicted of anything as a result of epstien none of your dumb shit matters none of it!

TheBardo
04-23-2022, 09:08 PM
Elizondo on suicide watch

starkind
04-23-2022, 09:09 PM
All in all "my poltitcian is infallible and cares about me" or the nation. (And isn't a pedo, not the torp kind) is consistently a really dumb fuck hill to die on.

Rethalis
04-23-2022, 09:18 PM
^^^

Horza
04-23-2022, 09:34 PM
I just think it's interesting the constant accusations of groomer suddenly stop when it's your party's morbidly obese pedophile.

Reiwa
04-23-2022, 09:39 PM
In other news, I beamed on Tik Tok about how I explained I don’t identify as a boy to my class of little kids, because my lack of other accomplishments in life has left my ever fluid gender identity as one of my only important characteristics, and the validation of it by little children in addition to people I don’t know on social media is my entire sense of self-worth

What is beamed?


Stop perpetuating the hetronormal-anglo-imperialist-racist-patriarchy


Heteronormative. Be precise, young lobster.

Elizondo
04-23-2022, 09:42 PM
Groomers like Horza and Botten are getting desperate

https://bipartisanreport.com/2021/12/21/uncovered-flight-logs-allege-trump-flew-with-epstein-many-times/

And yes illegal activity happened in flight

Where does it show The Trumpster flying to Epstein' island?

I only see Bill Clinton on those logs at least a dozen times

Horza
04-24-2022, 12:08 AM
“I’ve known Jeff for fifteen years. Terrific guy,” Trump told New York Magazine. “He’s a lot of fun to be with. It is even said that he likes beautiful women as much as I do, and many of them are on the younger side. No doubt about it—Jeffrey enjoys his social life.”

Rethalis
04-24-2022, 12:26 AM
“I’ve known Jeff for fifteen years. Terrific guy,” Trump told New York Magazine. “He’s a lot of fun to be with. It is even said that he likes beautiful women as much as I do, and many of them are on the younger side. No doubt about it—Jeffrey enjoys his social life.”

that was 20 years ago, and before trump banned epstien from mar a lago after epstien was hitting on a 14 year old girl at the place.

You would be a perfect journalist for legacy media.

Botten
04-24-2022, 12:31 AM
...
...Where does it show The Trumpster flying to Epstein' island?....


Trump took several flights on Epstein's Jet.

And as said it was called the lolita express. Get your head out of the sand. You are one supporting your X-Pedo-president.

The same guy that burst in on 15 year old girls in a changing room for a pageant. Trump admitted this on Howard Stern’s radio show in 2005.

Elizondo you literally are supporting a Groomer for 2024.

Trump does love his uneducated.

Kaveh
04-24-2022, 12:31 AM
In other news, I beamed on Tik Tok about how I explained I don’t identify as a boy to my class of little kids, because my lack of other accomplishments in life has left my ever fluid gender identity as one of my only important characteristics, and the validation of it by little children in addition to people I don’t know on social media is my entire sense of self-worth

This is just people seeking attention. It’s no different than Musk naming his kid Cracker-Peckerwood:Dumbshit A1Sauce or people gambling on Bitcoin to get rich

Most people are pieces of shit who’d do anything to not work. It’s because testosterone is dropping and why I break hands when I shake like we used to back in the 80s

Jibartik
04-24-2022, 12:46 AM
I just think it's interesting the constant accusations of groomer suddenly stop when it's your party's morbidly obese pedophile.

Last I checked trump is not teaching preschool.

Jibartik
04-24-2022, 12:48 AM
“I’ve known Jeff for fifteen years. Terrific guy,” Trump told New York Magazine. “He’s a lot of fun to be with. It is even said that he likes beautiful women as much as I do, and many of them are on the younger side. No doubt about it—Jeffrey enjoys his social life.”

“He was a fixture in Palm Beach,” Trump said of Epstein, who is also known for having been friends with former President Bill Clinton.

“I had a falling out a long time ago with him,” Trump said. “I don’t think I’ve spoken to him in 15 years.”

“I was not a fan of his,” Trump said.

Elizondo
04-24-2022, 12:56 AM
“He was a fixture in Palm Beach,” Trump said of Epstein, who is also known for having been friends with former President Bill Clinton.

“I had a falling out a long time ago with him,” Trump said. “I don’t think I’ve spoken to him in 15 years.”

“I was not a fan of his,” Trump said.

Trump caught a ride on Epstein's plane in the early 90s from Newark to NJ because his plane was grounded for repairs. Big woop.

John Glenn flew on Epstein's plane too. OMG the horror!

Meanwhile lefties are trying to convince 5 year old boys to cut off their pps in kindergarten and for some reason Horza and Botten won't condemn that

Trexller
04-24-2022, 12:59 AM
Trump caught a ride on Epstein's plane in the early 90s from Newark to NJ because his plane was grounded for repairs. Big woop.

John Glenn flew on Epstein's plane too. OMG the horror!

Meanwhile lefties are trying to convince 5 year old boys to cut off their pps in kindergarten and for some reason Horza and Botten won't condemn that

Groomers known on P99 forums as Horza and Botten, both avidly refuse to condemn pedophilia. I've brought this up for months now.

Let that sink in.

Botten and Horza outright refuse to condemn pedophilia.

Horza
04-24-2022, 01:21 AM
Sorry you and all the other Trumptards got tricked into supporting an obvious pedophile, try watching less reality television.

Jibartik
04-24-2022, 01:41 AM
Sorry you and all the other Trumptards got tricked into supporting an obvious pedophile, try watching less reality television.

thanks for the 10 million dollars daddy

https://i.imgur.com/BBkaUtZ.png

Botten
04-24-2022, 01:41 AM
Last I checked trump is not teaching preschool.

Literally right..

“I’m nervous, I’m nervous, I’m nervous”: A child’s reaction when Donald Trump walks into a classroom (https://qz.com/802521/im-nervous-im-nervous-im-nervous-a-childs-reaction-when-donald-trump-walks-into-a-classroom/)

Damn X-president Groomer

Elizondo
04-24-2022, 01:55 AM
Horza and Botten desperately babbling about Trump

Comedy ensues

Botten
04-24-2022, 01:58 AM
Horza and Botten desperately babbling about Trump

Comedy ensues

Your the one supporting your very definition of a groomer in Donald Trump! Ha!

Trexller
04-24-2022, 01:58 AM
Botten and Horza outright refuse to condemn pedophilia.