View Full Version : the i dont care about politics anymore thread
Horza
05-26-2021, 01:42 PM
Stop DMing each other and then complaining about it, you nerds.
I'm not complaining.
the wanna be school shooter
the biggest problem is that we have a huge social pool, and havent thinned the heard it in 70 years.
is.
Pulgasari
05-26-2021, 01:44 PM
Stop DMing each other and then complaining about it, you nerds.
Jibartik
05-26-2021, 01:45 PM
I'm not complaining.
You petitioned me lol
Shawk
05-26-2021, 01:45 PM
Stop DMing each other and then complaining about it, you nerds.
Lmao.
Pulgasari
05-26-2021, 01:47 PM
You petitioned me lol
Especially don't bother the mods with your little slapfight.
I told you how to block him.
Jibartik
05-26-2021, 01:49 PM
I enjoy replying didnt read and I am your father
Mblake1981
05-26-2021, 01:51 PM
You petitioned me lol
Byue petitioned you?
Jibartik
05-26-2021, 01:52 PM
Yeah for lies.
no you usually write shit like this.
Notice the great use of you're.
one day my country will hold yours to the flame for the destruction you're causing this earth selling oil to iran and china without regard for MY breathable air.
You're country is the single most destructive entity on earth who cares for nothing but money.
Bat. shit. crazy. dumb.
Jibartik
05-26-2021, 01:56 PM
https://i.imgur.com/BvNc0BJ.png
https://i.imgur.com/FAz2b4V.png
Horza
05-26-2021, 01:57 PM
Jibartik just wants to feel seen :o
Jibartik
05-26-2021, 01:59 PM
I am a millennial.
keep it local.
I like the subtlety that went over your head.
Show us a pic of you, we want to see how fat you are.
bubur
05-26-2021, 02:21 PM
no one ever sends me hate pm's
like seriously what am i not worth it
Actually, I usually send DM when I m happy.
Like my first message to Jibardick was me, asking him if he was ok because he was writing some very dark stuff and he admitted that he hadn't slept well and the vaccine was getting to him and I get that, it happens to the bets of us, happened to me.
We had tons of friendly message interaction since, even planned to play together, on green but then the fire nation attacked and everything changed.
I think you can be worth some friendly messages, do you want one?
bubur
05-26-2021, 02:30 PM
ehhh.. pass, thank you though
Jibartik
05-26-2021, 02:39 PM
I actually opened the floodgates when I sent him an apology for ripping him like 50 new a holes on the boards, he in turn sent me 50 expiative laden hate mails lightly covering mass shooting topics and suicide.
this is why we cant have nice things!
Jibardick, the only floodgate you opened was you being a victim of your dad's peen.
Are you getting the attention you crave right now?
Jibartik
05-26-2021, 02:48 PM
yes, my thirst has been quenched.
Patriam1066
05-26-2021, 02:48 PM
it happens to the bets of us
Pulgasari
05-26-2021, 04:02 PM
Why do people hate inflation? (https://noahpinion.substack.com/p/why-do-people-hate-inflation)
Thinking about wages in the 1970s.
https://i.imgur.com/iMLTABG.png
In an earlier post, I tried to explain what economists were trying to get at when they defined the concept of inflation:
Imagine the nominal price of everything in the economy doubled, including wages. TVs that cost $500 now cost $1000, people who earned $50,000 now earn $100,000, etc. The relative prices would all be the same; you’d still have to forgo the same number of pizzas, or work the same number of hours, in order to get a TV. Economists typically think that this kind of change isn’t really important in economic terms; our material standard of living is exactly the same, we just assigned different numbers to things.
This kind of change is what the concept of “inflation” tries to get at. We tend to colloquially think of “inflation” as meaning “an increase in the real cost of living”, but to economists it really means something more like “fiddling with the unit of account”.
So suppose this is how inflation really worked. Who would care if all the numbers change, as long as they all keep pace with each other? On Monday you earn $100 and a sandwich costs $5. On Tuesday you earn $200 and a sandwich costs $10. So what?
Jibartik
05-26-2021, 04:04 PM
lol I love my 100% raises I get day to day.
Jibartik
05-26-2021, 04:12 PM
it works for me either I my income is going to double or we get cobra commander.
republicans discussing economic theory:
maybe if we set up a bigger buffet for the rich, there will be more crumbs for the poor?
Great idea! How do we call this?
Let's call this, trickle down bullshit.
Sure, but I think if we say economics instead of bullshit, people will believe it work.
Surely, not the educated one?
Nah, obviously but this is not our demographics anyway.
Jibartik
05-26-2021, 04:15 PM
republicans discussing economic theory:
maybe if we set up a bigger buffet for the rich, there will be more crumbs for the poor?
Great idea! How do we call this?
Let's call this, trickle down bullshit.
Sure, but I think if we say economics instead of bullshit, people will believe it work.
Surely, not the educated one?
Nah, obviously but this is not our demographics anyway.
https://youtu.be/Pr8IyNGAqlw
is this you, Jibardick (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dGLKVrOlwSE)?
Patriam1066
05-26-2021, 04:23 PM
Byue, take a day off bud
Jibartik
05-26-2021, 04:48 PM
8h2h3HNTnIc
round one... FIGHT!
https://i.imgur.com/yNMy5Rs.jpg
zodium
05-26-2021, 06:40 PM
Why do people hate inflation? (https://noahpinion.substack.com/p/why-do-people-hate-inflation)
Thinking about wages in the 1970s.
https://i.imgur.com/iMLTABG.png
lol
https://i.imgur.com/Gp3VLgX.png
Byue, take a day off bud
How about no. I'll take a day off if I want to because I value freedom, freedom of speech and freedom of thought and freedom of expression and I have a right to be here just like all of you.
It can get much worse than this.
Don't push.
Just be happy I'm not just here like half of you shit starter.
I could be G13, or high school drop-out Jibardick.
I cold be the one who post 30 images per post to make these forums very shitty.
I'm not.
I give my opinion and all of you "cancel culture sucks" freedom of speech lover haaaaaaaaaaaaate it.
Mblake1981
05-26-2021, 07:19 PM
How about no. I'll take a day off if I want to because I value freedom, freedom of speech and freedom of thought and freedom of expression and I have a right to be here just like all of you.
It can get much worse than this.
Don't push.
Just be happy I'm not just here like half of you shit starter.
I could be G13, or high school drop-out Jibardick.
I cold be the one who post 30 images per post to make these forums very shitty.
I'm not.
I give my opinion and all of you "cancel culture sucks" freedom of speech lover haaaaaaaaaaaaate it.
like nails on a chalk board. :o
be more constructive with your feedback (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=29M_VElHoFI)
Mblake1981
05-26-2021, 07:27 PM
be more constructive with your feedback (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=29M_VElHoFI)
Didn't click. :o
this is not an airport terminal.
You don't need to announce you arrived, or that you are leaving.
You don't read me, don't click my links, fine.
Assume we're doing that to your posts as well.
This forum is basically a sticker for yourself that other people can read too but nobody does.
Mblake1981
05-26-2021, 07:41 PM
this is not an airport terminal.
You don't need to announce you arrived, or that you are leaving.
You don't read me, don't click my links, fine.
Assume we're doing that to your posts as well.
This forum is basically a sticker for yourself that other people can read too but nobody does.
You have been a kick today talking about other people wanting to be seen, take a look at yourself guy. Stuff a bageutte in it. :o
I'm definitely not that smart but this forum made me doubt myself, a lot.
I remember hating being in Tennessee because everyone was basically half retarded and I always wondered if it was my wife, her friends, or Americans in general.
I realize now it is Americans in general.
No child left behind.
Horza
05-26-2021, 07:53 PM
You have been a kick today talking about
I guess English isn't your first language either.
Mblake1981
05-26-2021, 07:58 PM
I guess English isn't your first language either.
Pardon me good sir, what I mean is
stfu :D
Horza
05-26-2021, 07:59 PM
I remember hating being in Tennessee because everyone was basically half retarded and I always wondered if it was my wife, her friends, or Americans in general.
I realize now it is Americans in general.
No child left behind.
Tennessee is just a shithole.
but the girls are wild. and cute.
I also noticed a lot of the people making fun of my English have terrible English themselves.
Native speaker who are 15 years old+ saying you're country, or there instead of theirs.
I picture these guys are very uneducated and the only thing going for them is the fact they speak English, they are white and Americans.
they don't even know how lucky they are.
Mblake1981
05-26-2021, 08:58 PM
But you are here to remind us of what exactly?
Edit: That we have it good in some ways, bad in others. High brow intellectual right here folks.
[QUOTE=Mblake1981;3313819]But you are here to remind us of what exactly?
/QUOTE]
tons. you don't read. nor care.
Not going to rehash it for your viewing pleasures, bum.
if you want something work for it.
seek christ.
Gwaihir
05-26-2021, 11:11 PM
[QUOTE=Mblake1981;3313819]But you are here to remind us of what exactly?
/QUOTE]
tons. you don't read. nor care.
Not going to rehash it for your viewing pleasures, bum.
if you want something work for it.
seek christ.
Amen
hobart
05-26-2021, 11:18 PM
liberal logic:
https://i.imgur.com/ccQzTY0.jpg
Except no one thinks any of this...
Harris is black. Biden is "competent", which is not exactly a descriptor you really want for a President.
Warren was probably told growing up that she was "part native American". If your parents told you this about yourself, why would you doubt it?
Bill Gates is more a supporter or predictor of trends in technology. But no one thinks he's a scientist.
No one thinks any of the rest of this crap. And when I say no one, Twitter does not count. Twitter is not real life.
Biden is "competent
He can't even read a teleprompter and it's laid out for him like a children's menu at McDonald's
He can't even read a teleprompter and it's laid out for him like a children's menu at McDonald's
45 was a lot better.
So Biden was here for 47 years – eight years – the last eight years, not long ago as vice president, he said one in five miles of our highways are still in poor condition.
Quick reminder: This was a press conference, ostensibly, to talk about Trump signing executive orders about Hong Kong and China.
Not reading well from a teleprompter is something both president struggled with but at least Biden is coherent?
What the actual fuck does
That basically means no windows, no nothing. It’s very hard to do. I tell people when they want to go into some of these buildings, how are your eyes because they won’t be good in five years. even fucking mean? (coming from a dude who stared directly at a fucking eclipse)
Copy paste, go on google, it's from his speeches. From 45's speeches.
I don't manipulate the truth like you do, or lie like you breathe but I mean, look at your role model.
A dude who had kids from three different wives, paid for extramarital sex with ugly pornstars and who bankrupted a casino is your ideal of a leader.
No to mention the how many, 26 credible sexual assault allegations against him? The how many criminal investigations?
Did he end up losing his court case that his university was a total scam? Why yes he did. (https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/onpolitics/2018/04/10/trump-university-settlement-judge-finalized/502387002/)
Right wingers even believe Rudy Giluani is a good lawyer and look, even Rudy knows he's shit.
The kraken he released was in his pants when he thought he was getting some in Borat II.
Mblake1981
05-27-2021, 05:11 AM
[QUOTE=Byue;3313877]
Amen
Oh, 'forum chops'.
transparent fucks :o
Mblake1981
05-27-2021, 05:17 AM
No one thinks any of the rest of this crap. And when I say no one, Twitter does not count. Twitter is not real life.
-Sent from my iPhone
Toxigen
05-27-2021, 07:53 AM
https://i.imgur.com/v171LvG.png
Botten
05-27-2021, 08:31 AM
He can't even read a teleprompter and it's laid out for him like a children's menu at McDonald's
45 trying
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UE9BXkQ-SRc
:rolleyes:
myrddraal
05-27-2021, 09:13 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-B31zVF3YR4
Mblake1981
05-27-2021, 09:37 AM
45 trying
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UE9BXkQ-SRc
:rolleyes:
45 is gone and hasn't been in office in 4 months. Joe is in there now.
#kidsincages :o
"But but Obama did it.."
"But but Bush did it.."
"But but Clinton did it.."
"But but Bush did it.."
Toxigen
05-27-2021, 10:46 AM
oh look facebook removes the moratorium on posts saying covid 19 is man made
lmao
but yeah big tech doesnt try to influence elections or anything guys
Mblake1981
05-27-2021, 10:54 AM
Been spending most they lifes living in a facebook paradise
https://i.imgur.com/XfjhJwz.png
unsunghero
05-27-2021, 11:29 AM
oh look facebook removes the moratorium on posts saying covid 19 is man made
lmao
but yeah big tech doesnt try to influence elections or anything guys
unsunghero
05-27-2021, 11:34 AM
,,
Bezos owned "Fact Checker"
lol
Meanwhile the corrupt and sleazy Dems pretending to be "journalists" are stealth editing their stories from a year ago that claimed anyone who considered the China Virus a lab leak was a "Conspiracy Theorist"
Jibartik
05-27-2021, 12:07 PM
Been spending most they lifes living in a facebook paradise
https://i.imgur.com/XfjhJwz.png
as much as I agree with this sentement it makes me wonder if I am just playing my role as an adult:
https://i.imgur.com/6japOoM.png
But then again, those kids grew up to build the world we're all complaining about living in today, so maybe the kids in your post will grow up to build the one we all kill each other in tomorrow. :o
Pulgasari
05-27-2021, 12:59 PM
https://www.project1999.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=14912&stc=1&thumb=1&d=1622129658
Manufactured or not, corona was always going to be used as a cudgel against China.
Dems just called dibs and wouldn't share.
Horza
05-27-2021, 01:24 PM
Sorry Trump lost, those of you still mourning his Twitter account.
Sorry Trump lost, those of you still mourning his Twitter account.
Election Rigged
100%
Mblake1981
05-27-2021, 01:33 PM
Sorry Trump lost, those of you still mourning his Twitter account.
Boring days at CIA?
Horza
05-27-2021, 01:38 PM
Boring days at CIA?
Of course, all 81 million Biden voters were antifa super soldiers.
Pulgasari
05-27-2021, 01:38 PM
Boring days at CIA?
It's the DCIA, blockhead.
Of course, all 81 million Biden voters were antifa super soldiers.
81 Million people did not vote for a Potato
Election was so rigged it's comical
Horza
05-27-2021, 01:49 PM
81 Million people did not vote for a Potato
Election was so rigged it's comical
Delicious conservative tears sustain me in these trying times.
Gravydoo II
05-27-2021, 01:51 PM
Would you cover for trump if he raped your wife/sister/mom/niece/girlfriend, too?
Delicious conservative tears sustain me in these trying times.
Totally rigged election
Hilarious watching you pretend otherwise
Horza
05-27-2021, 01:56 PM
Anyone else remember when Republicans at least pretended to live on the same planet as the rest of us?
Mblake1981
05-27-2021, 01:56 PM
Don't trip all over yourselves now. :o
#kidsincages
Anyone else remember when Republicans at least pretended to live on the same planet as the rest of us?
You know 81 million people didn't vote for that Potato Puppet
Stop Trolling
Horza
05-27-2021, 02:29 PM
You know 81 million people didn't vote for that Potato Puppet
Stop Trolling
Looks like he's stuck in a loop again.
Jibartik
05-27-2021, 02:35 PM
Anyone else remember when Republicans at least pretended to live on the same planet as the rest of us?
the good old days when bush was in charge eh? :o
edit: Parties flipped!
unsunghero
05-27-2021, 02:55 PM
Looks like he's stuck in a loop again.
That rich coming from the guy who repeats Jan 6 insurrection, hang mike pence, incitement so much in a single day that he’s actually convinced me it’s just a script running that has deceived me into believing it’s a real person
Mblake1981
05-27-2021, 02:59 PM
That rich coming from the guy who repeats Jan 6 insurrection, hang mike pence, incitement so much in a single day that he’s actually convinced me it’s just a script running that has deceived me into believing it’s a real person
He won't deny it. His avatar represents the reader, not him. :o
Horza
05-27-2021, 03:00 PM
That rich coming from the guy who repeats Jan 6 insurrection, hang mike pence, incitement so much in a single day that he’s actually convinced me it’s just a script running that has deceived me into believing it’s a real person
Sorry your orange political idol is a seditious traitor.
Jibartik
05-27-2021, 03:05 PM
Traitor to the bush and reganomics of the united states. :o
Mblake1981
05-27-2021, 03:16 PM
Sorry your orange political idol is a seditious traitor.
Took no oaths, owe no debts. When asked "Blue or Red" he chose Orange. :o
Looks like he's stuck in a loop again.
Confronted by a line of argument he can't dispute, the Leftie shamefully withdraws in defeat.
Mblake1981
05-27-2021, 03:46 PM
as much as I agree with this sentement it makes me wonder if I am just playing my role as an adult:
Is that an intellectually honest musing, Jib? :o
Mblake1981
05-27-2021, 03:55 PM
It's the DCIA, blockhead.
jhJDAI7XaAA
Horza
05-27-2021, 03:58 PM
Traitor to the bush and reganomics of the united states. :o
https://i.imgur.com/TBaXowd.png
Mblake1981
05-27-2021, 04:03 PM
Is a Man an Institution?
https://i.imgur.com/LYwJMGh.png
Patriam1066
05-27-2021, 04:05 PM
Anyone else remember when Republicans at least pretended to live on the same planet as the rest of us?
You couldn’t afford my zip code, so no
unsunghero
05-27-2021, 04:06 PM
https://i.imgur.com/TBaXowd.png
Any that don’t involve continually trying to steal more and more money from people already paying 500x more in taxes than I do, and who the vast majority of made their money completely honestly, ethically and legally
Horza
05-27-2021, 04:13 PM
Any that don’t involve continually trying to steal more and more money from people already paying 500x more in taxes than I do, and who the vast majority of made their money completely honestly, ethically and legally
Yo, take Bezos' balls out of your mouth for a minute and have a conversation with me.
Jibartik
05-27-2021, 04:16 PM
lol there is no way I would not 100% vote in 2024 for this guy lol https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/matt-gaetz-trump-2024-president-b1855197.html
Horza
05-27-2021, 04:24 PM
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/matt-gaetz-trump-2024-president-b1855197.html
Mr. Gaetz’s associate, Joel Greenberg, pleaded guilty last week to six federal charges, admitting he had knowingly solicited and paid for sex from a minor. Several legal commentators have said that Mr. Greenberg taking a plea deal may be a problem for Mr. Gaetz, who has close connection to Greenberg’s dealings.
May be a problem for Mr. Gaetz?
Jibartik
05-27-2021, 04:38 PM
May be a problem for Mr. Gaetz?
first president with an ankle bracelet
myrddraal
05-27-2021, 05:01 PM
Any that don’t involve continually trying to steal more and more money from people already paying 500x more in taxes than I do, and who the vast majority of made their money completely honestly, ethically and legally
is this dude serious? lol
Mblake1981
05-27-2021, 05:01 PM
is this dude serious? lol
It's all social media and weirdness to me. :o
unsunghero
05-27-2021, 05:02 PM
Yo, take Bezos' balls out of your mouth for a minute and have a conversation with me.
Last I checked Bezos votes for politicians who are trying to steal more and more of his money, because he wants them to also be able to take it from others that don’t share his political ideologies, all because he is too stupid to realize he can just give away literally ALL his money to the government right now (here https://fiscal.treasury.gov/public/gifts-to-government.html)
It would be like if I said “hey Horza I have this really good cause, I want to adopt an orphan. It costs $30,000. I’m going to spend $15,000 of my money and $15,000 of your money on it ok? What? You don’t want to? Oh I’m sorry, I didn’t realize you weren’t in support of adopting orphans you fucking monster”
Pulgasari
05-27-2021, 05:11 PM
Last I checked Bezos votes for politicians who are trying to steal more and more of his money, because he wants them to also be able to take it from others that don’t share his political ideologies, all because he is too stupid to realize he can just give away literally ALL his money to the government right now (here https://fiscal.treasury.gov/public/gifts-to-government.html)
It would be like if I said “hey Horza I have this really good cause, I want to adopt an orphan. It costs $30,000. I’m going to spend $15,000 of my money and $15,000 of your money on it ok? What? You don’t want to? Oh I’m sorry, I didn’t realize you weren’t in support of adopting orphans you fucking monster”
Bezos isn't worth diddly squat compared to the US as an enterprise. Noone is.
Your argument is a bird.
Mblake1981
05-27-2021, 05:12 PM
Last I checked Bezos votes for politicians who are trying to steal more and more of his money, because he wants them to also be able to take it from others that don’t share his political ideologies, all because he is too stupid to realize he can just give away literally ALL his money to the government right now (here https://fiscal.treasury.gov/public/gifts-to-government.html)
While shutting down many other businesses so they don't have a voice. Gobbled them all up and says "take it".
boy oh boy. :o
Edit: What I mean is, how many smaller businesses and mom & pop stores rub elbows with Asian business leaders.
Yeah.. that American flag was probably made in China.
Patriam1066
05-27-2021, 05:14 PM
Amazon needs to be broken up. A lot of these major corporations wield destabilizing political power that is harmful to the Empire. Good eastern Roman emperors like Heraclius took gold from the trinkets of the wealthy to pay the army and win existential conflicts. It’s simple, like this
https://youtu.be/B203twyaMfM
Pulgasari
05-27-2021, 05:16 PM
Amazon needs to be broken up. A lot of these major corporations wield destabilizing political power that is harmful to the Empire. Good eastern Roman emperors like Heraclius took gold from the trinkets of the wealthy to pay the army and win existential conflicts. It’s simple, like this
https://youtu.be/B203twyaMfM
You get less treasure from theft than tribute. Make them comply, don't murder the goose.
Horza
05-27-2021, 05:18 PM
is this dude serious? lol
https://i.imgur.com/ceqe65T.jpg
Mblake1981
05-27-2021, 05:18 PM
Amazon needs to be broken up. A lot of these major corporations wield destabilizing political power that is harmful to the Empire. Good eastern Roman emperors like Heraclius took gold from the trinkets of the wealthy to pay the army and win existential conflicts. It’s simple, like this
https://youtu.be/B203twyaMfM
If you are going to LARP an Emperor and play RL fantasy then yes, that is a way.
The issue of truth in Pats post is the power over the country they have. Nobody, or body of Government is supposed to have that much power. One man becomes many and that is not the way here.
Gustoo
05-27-2021, 05:19 PM
The problem is that these politicians are cheap by amazon / facebook standards. They would actually need to do their job for the benefit of all which is possible but hasn't been popular.
unsunghero
05-27-2021, 05:19 PM
Bezos isn't worth diddly squat compared to the US as an enterprise. Noone is.
Your argument is a bird.
Did I say that his net worth would be able to fund what the government wants to do?
The reason you think it isn’t a good argument is because you can’t see how acting like the “for a good cause” despite the cause often NOT being something that others see as good, or the means of reaching that goal others see as effective, as justification to steal from people who already give far more than most
Mblake1981
05-27-2021, 05:22 PM
The problem is that these politicians are cheap by amazon / facebook standards. They would actually need to do their job for the benefit of all which is possible but hasn't been popular.
When has being a man ever been that popular really. Get a golf clap for shoveling some dried shit eh? :o
Pulgasari
05-27-2021, 05:23 PM
The problem is that these politicians are cheap by amazon / facebook standards. They would actually need to do their job for the benefit of all which is possible but hasn't been popular.
Amazon definitely benefits us. Can you imagine the USPS being logistically large enough to match their delivery speed? It'd be a nightmare.
Pulgasari
05-27-2021, 05:23 PM
Did I say that his net worth would be able to fund what the government wants to do?
The reason you think it isn’t a good argument is because you can’t see how acting like the “for a good cause” despite the cause often NOT being something that others see as good, or the means of reaching that goal others see as effective, as justification to steal from people who already give far more than most
I didn't read, am I a hypocrite or something?
Mblake1981
05-27-2021, 05:30 PM
Amazon definitely benefits us. Can you imagine the USPS being logistically large enough to match their delivery speed? It'd be a nightmare.
I read that you are fundamentally willing to change or sacrifice. :o
Patriam1066
05-27-2021, 06:27 PM
If you are going to LARP an Emperor and play RL fantasy then yes, that is a way.
The issue of truth in Pats post is the power over the country they have. Nobody, or body of Government is supposed to have that much power. One man becomes many and that is not the way here.
Look up why the battle of manzikert was lost. A faction of wealthy nobles took half the army back to Constantinople to seize the imperial throne. Romanos Diogenes did his best, but treason against the state lead to events that would eventually result in the fall of eastern Rome
You get less treasure from theft than tribute. Make them comply, don't murder the goose.
I’m talking about exercising anti-trust powers thst our government not only has but has used numerous times when companies have been anticompetitive. In addition, lobbying is a real problem. We’ve never before had so many congressmen and women he lawyers merely looking for a handout. No entity should have political power greater than the individual voters willing to cast a ballot on its behalf. Also, marginal tax rates will have to increase for us to maintain this level of spending
Pulgasari
05-27-2021, 06:48 PM
I’m talking about exercising anti-trust powers thst our government not only has but has used numerous times when companies have been anticompetitive. In addition, lobbying is a real problem. We’ve never before had so many congressmen and women he lawyers merely looking for a handout. No entity should have political power greater than the individual voters willing to cast a ballot on its behalf. Also, marginal tax rates will have to increase for us to maintain this level of spending
You'll be worse off fiscally and in goods if you break them up.
Tilt at windmills if you must, I do agree with your principles. :D
Patriam1066
05-27-2021, 08:40 PM
Jeff bezos has no honor
Shourty
05-27-2021, 10:38 PM
I like what the president said.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vzO6fFNSdcc
Patriam1066
05-27-2021, 10:40 PM
Bezos delenda est
Horza
05-27-2021, 11:19 PM
I like what the president said.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vzO6fFNSdcc
Your Youtube subs are wild bro.
Joan Rivers: Obama Is Gay, Michelle Is Transgender (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B9C3SAdw-AA)
Pulgasari
05-27-2021, 11:23 PM
I like what the president said.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vzO6fFNSdcc
Bidawg clearly meant new taxes, sorry you have no idea what context is.
Your Youtube subs are wild bro.
Joan Rivers: Obama Is Gay, Michelle Is Transgender (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B9C3SAdw-AA)
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Shourty
05-28-2021, 11:07 AM
Think about it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0ErGVdc-d5s
starkind
05-28-2021, 11:08 AM
so what if she's got a 9 inches of meat rollups under there?
melania is probably a fucking meatscooped tranny2
if anything this just makes u cooler (getting meetscooped will indeed decrease ur metabolism and bodhy tempature) and more *hardcore* /s
Horza
05-28-2021, 12:31 PM
Trump retards are still unable to cope with the fact that we had a black president.
starkind
05-28-2021, 12:52 PM
obsession with genitalia is a symptom of gender dysphyoria
Trump retards are still unable to cope with the fact that we had a black president.
You're obsessed with race
The color of his skin never mattered. Even if his lips were purple, he was still a shitty President
Horza
05-28-2021, 01:33 PM
You're obsessed with race
The color of his skin never mattered. Even if his lips were purple, he was still a shitty President
I'm genuinely shocked your response wasn't "Obama cheated."
I'm genuinely shocked your response wasn't "Obama cheated."
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Horza
05-28-2021, 01:51 PM
Cope meme
Horza
05-28-2021, 02:12 PM
73% of Republicans blame 'left-wing protesters' for Jan. 6 attack, while just 23% blame Trump. (https://news.yahoo.com/poll-73-percent-of-republicans-blame-left-wing-protesters-for-jan-6-attack-just-23-percent-blame-trump-191520343.html)
73% of Republicans blame 'left-wing protesters' for Jan. 6 attack, while just 23% blame Trump. (https://news.yahoo.com/poll-73-percent-of-republicans-blame-left-wing-protesters-for-jan-6-attack-just-23-percent-blame-trump-191520343.html)
ANTIFA LARP
Lefty Reichstag simulation no doubt
Re7u81ApsaU
Pulgasari
05-28-2021, 02:24 PM
President Biden's budget proposal projects debt rising past WWII levels (https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2021/05/28/bidens-budget-proposal-expected-increase-federal-debt/7468014002/)
Biden’s proposal, which would lower deficits beginning in 2030 is a “sharp departure from unpaid tax cuts under the prior administration that seriously worsened our long-term fiscal problems.”
The administration argues that the level of interest payments, rather than the size of the debt, is the most relevant benchmark for whether debt is burdening the economy. The government’s annual interest payments after adjusting for inflation would remain well below the historic average throughout the next decade, according to the White House.
Horza
05-28-2021, 02:27 PM
ANTIFA LARP
Lefty Reichstag simulation no doubt
Exhibit #2
Exhibit #2
It's hilarious watching you pretend 81 Million people voted for a Potato
Rigged Election 100%
Mblake1981
05-28-2021, 02:49 PM
It's hilarious watching you pretend 81 Million people voted for a Potato
Rigged Election 100%
Hes not earnest but the joke is people responding to him like he is. :o
Hes not earnest but the joke is people responding to him like he is. :o
He should definitely do stand up comedy
Pulgasari
05-28-2021, 02:58 PM
Hes not earnest but the joke is people responding to him like he is. :o
Which one are you talking about? ;)
starkind
05-28-2021, 03:09 PM
How can u guys care so much about politics when there's cool stuff like this to be discovered?
Like who cares how big someone's dick is (or isn't)?
https://i.imgur.com/ftjABCz.png
Mblake1981
05-28-2021, 03:14 PM
Which one are you talking about? ;)
Axe you the same thing!
https://i.imgur.com/p5csYI4.gif
Jibartik
05-28-2021, 04:43 PM
Proof both parties work for same deep state: https://twitter.com/GravelInstitute/status/1398320578176688130?s=20
The Democratic Party has complete and total power to end the filibuster today. We don't want to hear about "obstructionism," "gridlock," or how the Republicans are stopping every piece of legislation over the next four years when it could have 100% been prevented today. No more excuses!
Horza
05-28-2021, 04:55 PM
Proof both parties work for same deep state: https://twitter.com/GravelInstitute/status/1398320578176688130?s=20
The Democratic Party has complete and total power to end the filibuster today. We don't want to hear about "obstructionism," "gridlock," or how the Republicans are stopping every piece of legislation over the next four years when it could have 100% been prevented today. No more excuses!
https://i.imgur.com/zsl2Tdt.jpg
Patriam1066
05-28-2021, 05:02 PM
The chick on the left has luclin graphics, IE giant forehead
Patriam1066
05-28-2021, 05:11 PM
The chick on the left has luclin graphics, IE giant forehead
Gravydoo II
05-28-2021, 06:12 PM
Until we buy them for ourselves, we dont own our government.
https://www.opensecrets.org/federal-lobbying/top-recipients
Pulgasari
05-28-2021, 09:12 PM
Proof both parties work for same deep state: https://twitter.com/GravelInstitute/status/1398320578176688130?s=20
The Democratic Party has complete and total power to end the filibuster today. We don't want to hear about "obstructionism," "gridlock," or how the Republicans are stopping every piece of legislation over the next four years when it could have 100% been prevented today. No more excuses!
they designate other critters to vote on their behalf and perform other parliamentary procedures. gravel kids know this and are lying to your face.
TheBardo
05-29-2021, 06:33 PM
It's hilarious watching you pretend 81 Million people voted for a Potato
Rigged Election 100%
are you ok man? I'm worried about you
A Knight
05-29-2021, 06:48 PM
If space time continues to get larger and smaller in all directions, how many of these exact copy dimension do you think exist inbetween until humans can have brains that create consciousness?
Pulgasari
05-29-2021, 09:02 PM
https://i.imgur.com/kSubDI1.png
https://i.imgur.com/kSubDI1.png
lol
Gravydoo II
05-29-2021, 10:48 PM
Because they kill homosexuals as a function of the state they are tougher than us? lol Well thats great and all but I dont think thats how wars work. Last time I was in a war I never even saw what happened. I know that nobody checked who had gay parents in the middle of GQ though. Plane left with bombs, plane come back empty. I hope the most queer, trans, four mom, two dad havin ass weapons officer pushes the button on their next stupid idea and it sinks with all hands. Fuck russia.
Gravydoo II
05-29-2021, 10:52 PM
are you ok man? I'm worried about you
He's bitter. This one thought controls his entire life. He didnt even lose. Trump did, but it makes him feel like a loser in some wierd, vicarious manner. He internalized this loss and hes now so fucking bitter that he cant post a single thing without mentioning it.
He's bitter. This one thought controls his entire life. He didnt even lose. Trump did, but it makes him feel like a loser in some wierd, vicarious manner. He internalized this loss and hes now so fucking bitter that he cant post a single thing without mentioning it.
Trump won in a landslide
No doubt
hobart
05-30-2021, 02:49 AM
Trump won in a landslide
No doubt
He's President right now, in fact. But it's a secret. Shhhhhhh.
TheBardo
05-30-2021, 02:59 AM
Trump won in a landslide
No doubt
Incorrect, Biden won over seven million more votes, and beat Trump in the electoral college by 306-232.
Incorrect, Biden won over seven million more votes, and beat Trump in the electoral college by 306-232.
81M people did not vote a Potato that flirts with little girls
Sorry, but the election was rigged
100%
zodium
05-30-2021, 05:00 AM
https://i.imgur.com/tXlvWvb.jpg
TheBardo
05-30-2021, 09:12 AM
81M people did not vote a Potato that flirts with little girls
Sorry, but the election was rigged
100%
Potato? What do you mean by that?
Patriam1066
05-30-2021, 09:17 AM
I’ve voted democrat for president twice in my life out of 7 elections, once was for Biden
Trump is incompatible with democracy G13. Sorry you can’t figure that out
TheBardo
05-30-2021, 10:42 AM
He's bitter. This one thought controls his entire life. He didnt even lose. Trump did, but it makes him feel like a loser in some wierd, vicarious manner. He internalized this loss and hes now so fucking bitter that he cant post a single thing without mentioning it.
You might be right. Or hes just trolling? Not sure.
Gravydoo II
05-30-2021, 11:27 AM
Trolls last for a day, a week... its been 3 months.
Actually, 4 almost 5.
Horza
05-30-2021, 12:45 PM
81M people did not vote a Potato that flirts with little girls
Sorry, but the election was rigged
100%
Cope post
Jibartik
05-30-2021, 01:15 PM
I cant wait to see the reaction to trump (or even better Gaetz) winning with all these new "rigged GOP" voter laws lol
"No this time it was really rigged for real this time!"
Horza
05-30-2021, 01:18 PM
I cant wait to see the reaction to trump (or even better Gaetz) winning with all these new "rigged GOP" voter laws lol
Gaetz will probably be in prison by then (cope post).
Jibartik
05-30-2021, 01:31 PM
Gaetz will probably be in prison by then (cope post).
And you'd be introduced to the Oval Cell. Cant stop wont stop.
edit: lol so as not to double post
watching fox news right now and they just had areal live footage of the migrant crisis at the border. and it was just a slow pan of an empty field with literally nobody on it lol
starkind
05-30-2021, 01:57 PM
https://i.imgur.com/kSubDI1.png
Goog meme. Lol
Jibartik
05-30-2021, 02:23 PM
Goog meme. Lol
it really is haha
I’ve voted democrat for president twice in my life out of 7 elections, once was for Biden
Trump is incompatible with democracy G13. Sorry you can’t figure that out
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Horza
05-30-2021, 06:14 PM
Matt Gaetz says $155k to close on yacht with his fiancee ‘went missing.’ (https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/matt-gaetz-money-yacht-missing-b1856477.html)
TheBardo
05-30-2021, 06:20 PM
14963
this is just sad
Gravydoo II
05-30-2021, 06:33 PM
Matt Gaetz says $155k to close on yacht with his fiancee ‘went missing.’ (https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/matt-gaetz-money-yacht-missing-b1856477.html)
LOL how did it go missing, exactly?? They had 150k in cash and left it in the car while they went to get cigarettes? Like, what the fuck happened?
Oh wait hes a sex trafficker take all his money
this is just sad
Trump won in a landslide
No doubt
Patriam1066
05-30-2021, 07:00 PM
LOL how did it go missing, exactly?? They had 150k in cash and left it in the car while they went to get cigarettes? Like, what the fuck happened?
Oh wait hes a sex trafficker take all his money
His fiancé is the sister of a tech dude with a lot of money. And Gaetz himself grew up with daddy’s money
People who aren’t self made are often very sad BIGLY people
Pulgasari
05-31-2021, 12:17 AM
https://i.imgur.com/TrJXUkV.png
starkind
05-31-2021, 08:34 AM
https://i.imgur.com/TrJXUkV.png
https://i.imgur.com/5LZM9uQ.png
Jibartik
05-31-2021, 12:21 PM
https://i.imgur.com/p6kBM4a.png
starkind
05-31-2021, 09:09 PM
https://i.imgur.com/p6kBM4a.png
This is essentially high heels but in a sexless communist sense, as apposed to a libertarian sense.
Toxigen
06-01-2021, 05:42 AM
DeSantis 2024
Gravydoo II
06-01-2021, 10:56 AM
There wont be republicans in 2024.. Theres gonna be trump and not trump. Your party is dying, every day. Paul Ryan is going to run in 2024... So it will be Paul Ryan, Donny Child Rape, Wannabetrump jr.
God I hope so.. Split that party into 2, its fucking over. Piss on their graves. Its over for retardicans. The grand ole retard party is over. Its over. Done. Finished. Stick a fork on those pussies.
Ted Cruz is more likely to win over Desantis LOLOLOLOL
Gravydoo II
06-01-2021, 11:08 AM
When you show america you cannot be trusted as a party, you will never hold power again. Republicans will NEVER be president again. They showed their hand. They showed they are OK with literally anything. Stealing? Rape? Raping kids? Hanging out with matt gaetz? They will tolerate anything and anyone, so long as it keeps them in power.
Literally ran a pedophile/rapist with 26 accusations. That guy STILL runs the party.
Roy Moore, another pedophile full support of GOP.
Matt Gaetz, sex trafficker, pedophile, possibly rapist.
How much worse can it get for you?? Like literally the party of rapists, kiddy fuckers, and sexual assaulters. Lets not forget "no" and "stupid". You are the stupid party. Your own members even say it.
When I see the GOP I feel like Chris Hanson is gonna jump out and confront them..
This is the GOP.
Jack Tarpley Camp Jr., (R) Judge in the US District Court for the North District of Georgia — Pleaded guilty to aiding and abetting a felon's possession of a controlled substance, and to two misdemeanors: illegally giving a stripper his government-issued laptop, and possession of illegal drugs. He was sentenced to 30 days in jail, 400 hours of community service, and resignation from the bench. (2010)[141][142][143]
Mark Souder, Representative (Republican-Indiana) — A staunch advocate of abstinence and family values,[146][147] Souder resigned to avoid an ethics investigation into his admitted extramarital affair with a female staffer. (2010)[148][149][150]
Chris Lee, Representative (Republican-New York) — Resigned hours after a news report stated that he had sent a shirtless picture of himself flexing his muscles to a woman via Craigslist, along with flirtatious e-mails.[151] He did not rely on a pseudonym or a false e-mail address, but used his official Congressional e-mail for all communication. Lee said: “I regret the harm that my actions have caused my family, my staff, and my constituents.... I have made profound mistakes, and I promise to work as hard as I can to seek their forgiveness.”[152] (2011)
Scott DesJarlais, Representative (Republican-Tennessee) — Admitted under oath to at least six affairs, including two affairs with his patients and staffers while he was a physician at Grandview Medical Center in Jasper, TN. Additionally, while running on a declared "pro-life" platform, DesJarlais coerced his ex-wife into having two abortions, and tried to persuade a mistress, who was his patient, into an abortion as well.[157][158][159]
Vance McAllister, Representative (Republican-Louisiana) — Although married and the father of five, was caught on surveillance camera deeply kissing a married staffer. Several prominent Republicans asked McAllister to resign. In response, he stated he would not seek re-election in 2016.[162] McCallister said: “There's no doubt I've fallen short, and I'm asking for forgiveness. I'm asking for forgiveness from God, my wife, my kids, my staff, and my constituents who elected me to serve.” (2014)[163]
Blake Farenthold, US Representative (Republican-Texas) — was reported to have paid $84,000 of taxpayer money, via the House of Representatives Office of Compliance, to settle a sexual harassment complaint from a former staffer. Farenthold's former communications director, Lauren Greene, sued the congressman in December 2014,[164] and a settlement was reached in 2015. The identity of Farenthold with respect to taxpayer involvement was made public in 2017. This was the first documented case of taxpayer funds being used to settle sexual harassment complaints against a member of Congress. (2014)[165]
Dennis Hastert, former Speaker of the United States House of Representatives (Republican-Illinois) — Pled guilty to structuring bank withdrawals in order to conceal deliberately-unspecified misconduct by Hastert against an unnamed individual years earlier.[166] At a sentencing hearing in October 2015, Hastert admitted that he had sexually abused boys while he worked as a high school wrestling coach decades earlier. (2015)[167][168]
Donald Trump (Republican), the 45th President of the United States — was accused of sexual assault by 25 women during the 2016 election, and he denied the allegations.[169] (See Donald Trump sexual misconduct allegations.) The allegations arose after The Washington Post released a 2005 video of Trump, recorded on a hot microphone by Access Hollywood, in which he bragged about groping women.[170][171][172] Trump himself renewed the controversy a year later by alleging that the video was fake,[173] to which Access Hollywood replied: “Let us make this perfectly clear—the tape is very real. Remember, his excuse at the time was 'locker-room talk.' He said every one of those words.”[174][175] The first reports of an alleged 2006 affair between Donald Trump and adult film star Stormy Daniels were published in October 2011 by the blog The Dirty and the magazine Life & Style (see Stormy Daniels–Donald Trump scandal).[176][177]
Tim Murphy, Representative (Republican-Pennsylvania) — Had an extramarital affair with Shannon Edwards, a 32-year-old forensic psychologist. The self-identified "pro-life" Murphy asked Edwards to have an abortion after she became pregnant. The information was revealed as part of Murphy's divorce proceedings, and published by the Pittsburgh Post-Gazette after it fought in Pennsylvania state court to have the documents unsealed. Murphy resigned his seat in Congress.
Joe Barton, Representative (Republican-Texas) — Acknowledged he took and emailed nude photos of himself in 2015, following leaks of the photos in November 2017.[179][180][181] He decided not to seek re-election in 2018.[182]
Trent Franks, Representative (Republican-Arizona) — was investigated by the House Ethics Commission about allegations of improper conduct. Before the study concluded, Franks abruptly resigned. (2017)[185][186][187]
Pat Meehan, Representative (Republican-Pennsylvania) — In January, 2018, it was revealed that US Representative Pat Meehan used taxpayer funds to settle a sexual harassment claim levied by a female staffer. He was removed from the House Ethics Committee, but remained in office until he resigned on April 27, 2018, stating that he would repay the taxpayer money used to settle the suit. (2018)[188][189][190]
Jim Jordan, Representative (Republican-Ohio) — was accused of covering up and failing to report sexual abuse of minors by former members of the Ohio State University wrestling team by the team physician. There were multiple victims during the period when Jordan was Assistant Coach of the team from 1987 to 1995. On February 12, 2020, allegations surfaced from one of those former members that Jordan (was) "repeatedly crying and begging him not to corroborate accounts of sexual abuse against the university’s wrestling team doctor that occurred when Jordan was a coach."[191]
Brett Kavanaugh, Associate Justice of the Supreme Court — was accused of sexual assault and misconduct by Christine Blasey Ford, Deborah Ramirez, and three other women, in alleged incidents that occurred during his high school and college years.[192][193][194] An FBI investigation concluded that there was no corroboration of the accusations.[195][196] Kavanaugh vehemently denied all of the allegations. He was confirmed by the Senate in a party line vote, and was sworn in as a Justice of the Supreme Court.
Roy S. Moore (R) candidate for the US Senate — was accused by nine women of sexual contact and assault in the 1980s, when the women were teenaged girls. Though Moore denied the allegations, he lost the election. (2017)[197][198][199]
Katie Hill, U.S. Representative (Democrat-California) — In October 2019, news reports indicated that she was being investigated by the House Ethics Commission about allegations of sexual relationships with a subordinate.[200][201][202][203] Hill was alleged to have engaged in an extramarital affair with her male legislative director, Graham Kelly, as well as a 22 year old female staffer.[204][205] She would later resign as a result of the allegations and subsequent investigation.[206] (oh look, not a sexual assault, rape, or crime.)
Matt Gaetz, U.S. Representative (Republican-Florida) — In March 2021, reports surfaced of a federal investigation into Matt Gaetz, an American politician serving as the U.S. representative for Florida's 1st congressional district, involving claims he had a sexual relationship with a 17-year-old girl in 2019. [207] The New York Times reported that Gaetz was being investigated by the Department of Justice (DOJ), and investigators were examining whether he had violated federal sex trafficking laws. [208] Gaetz denied any wrongdoing, asserting he and his family were "victims of an organized criminal extortion involving a former DOJ official seeking $25 million."[207] (see Matt Gaetz sexual misconduct allegations)
Notice anything??
There wont be republicans in 2024.. Theres gonna be trump and not trump. Your party is dying, every day. Paul Ryan is going to run in 2024... So it will be Paul Ryan, Donny Child Rape, Wannabetrump jr.
God I hope so.. Split that party into 2, its fucking over. Piss on their graves. Its over for retardicans. The grand ole retard party is over. Its over. Done. Finished. Stick a fork on those pussies.
Ted Cruz is more likely to win over Desantis LOLOLOLOL
hKLHVLXtxfo
Gravydoo II
06-01-2021, 11:12 AM
Sorry I dont speak retard. Keep trying. One day, I might take you off ignore. You didnt even know, did you? Pussy ass. lol
Jibartik
06-01-2021, 11:17 AM
DeSantis 2024
never would win this country needs trump or gaetez... dont try to biden the GOP
Pulgasari
06-01-2021, 11:31 AM
When you show america you cannot be trusted as a party, you will never hold power again. Republicans will NEVER be president again.
Fine, Democrats will never control the Senate again. :p
No justices for you!!
Jibartik
06-01-2021, 11:43 AM
libtards want to unionize college sports because a free ride isnt enough for athletes anymore...
this is why the republican party exists.
because of these stupid ass ideas.
Sorry I dont speak retard. Keep trying. One day, I might take you off ignore. You didnt even know, did you? Pussy ass. lol
"I love kids jumping on my lap" - Potato Biden
Gravydoo II
06-01-2021, 12:02 PM
So the college can use your image, your likeness, your name, your acts to make money but you cant get paid. They are not even saying "we want all the money". They are saying "why dont you cut us in on those billions of dollars we make you every year with the destruction of our minds (CTE) and bodies?"
You are not entitled to money made off YOUR NAME and YOUR ACTIONS???
Let me start a business in your name. PM me your real name and picture. Im going to stick it on my car and do business representing you and keep all the money. I'm going to make deals for the future, featuring you as a bargaining chip, and keep all the money. What do you say?
Put your money where your mouth is, you sick fuck. <3
Jib you know I love you.
Jibartik
06-01-2021, 12:06 PM
So the college can use your image, your likeness, your name, your acts to make money but you cant get paid.
Yes. You are payed with a free ride. Don't go to school if you think you're too good for it.
And for the love of god dont get the progressives to work on legislation so you can make millions of dollars performing athletics for fans instead of getting an education.
This is quite literally why our society is falling apart.
Pulgasari
06-01-2021, 12:11 PM
Yes. You are payed with a free ride. Don't go to school if you think you're too good for it.
And for the love of god dont get the progressives to work on legislation so you can make millions of dollars performing athletics for fans instead of getting an education.
This is quite literally why our society is falling apart.
It's not really free if it's compulsory for career advancement.
Toxigen
06-01-2021, 12:14 PM
DeSantis is going to crush 2024.
Jibartik
06-01-2021, 12:15 PM
Students at art schools should be payed because the schools use their artwork to recruit more students.
Business schools use networking from other students to build investment platforms so the time spent learning this the student should be paid
Basically every student should be paid because our generation thinks we are all owed something.
There is nothing compulsory about higher education, if you dont want one go work in HVAC where the money is.
Jibartik
06-01-2021, 12:16 PM
DeSantis is going to crush 2024.
Horza post
Pulgasari
06-01-2021, 12:18 PM
There is nothing compulsory about higher education, if you dont want one go work in HVAC where the money is.
Name one NFL player that didn't.
Jibartik
06-01-2021, 12:18 PM
Name one NFL player that didn't.
didnt what? work in hvac?
Or are you saying that studying NFL in higher edcuation results in a better chance at getting a job in NFL? Because that is literally the point of getting a higher education.
Sorry college students are studying, they are not working.
Jibartik
06-01-2021, 12:21 PM
Progressive beta nerds:
Those chads shouldnt just get in free, they should get payed to go to the school I pay to go to.
lol no difference between the left and the right AGAIN.
Sure youre all going to become billionaires and athletes :rolleyes:
Pulgasari
06-01-2021, 12:21 PM
didnt what? work in hvac?
Or are you saying that studying NFL in higher edcuation results in a better chance at getting a job in NFL? Because that is literally the point of getting a higher education.
Sorry college students are studying, they are not working.
Yes I clearly meant HVAC. Ass.
Jibartik
06-01-2021, 12:23 PM
Yes I clearly meant HVAC. Ass.
Read the edit lmao you cant beat me in this argument because I am right.
The idea that students should be paid so the sports department can require even MORE funds to be sucked up from the arts and actual education and is being championed by the educated artists, is hilarious to me.
starkind
06-01-2021, 12:23 PM
Higher education is just licensing and gatekeeping. Even agricultural degrees. They don't teach anything practical outside of the experimental physics facilities that the privileged go to.
99% of the doctors and lawyers they certify are absolutely dogshit as well.
I'm all for teaching, mastery, and skill, and scientific exploration but ya'll are being scammed. And oppressed.
Jibartik
06-01-2021, 12:26 PM
Higher education is about networking and nothing else.
If you go to harvard or a good business school, it's obvious to you who to ask for 10 million dollars from investors.
If you go to a art school it's obvious to you who to ask to obtain a job at ILM
If you go to a school that has a college football program, it's obvious to you how to get recruited into the NFL (but everyone else there will be unemployed poly sci majors because the sports program is sucking up all the money the school has to offer its different departments)
ETC
Higher ed is just about introducing you to the people that youll be working with.
Gravydoo II
06-01-2021, 12:29 PM
Students at art schools should be payed because the schools use their artwork to recruit more students.
Business schools use networking from other students to build investment platforms so the time spent learning this the student should be paid
Basically every student should be paid because our generation thinks we are all owed something.
There is nothing compulsory about higher education, if you dont want one go work in HVAC where the money is.
The athletes are not used to recruit other students?? Who wants to join a losing team?? You recruit with the offer of "you could be playing with tebow" or whatever it may be. To say that an athlete should not be paid because they were paid with a scholarship, what about all the other scholarships? Academic, music, or sports, if the college is making money off the student, the student should see a piece of it. Not millions of dollars. Nobody has ever said millions of dollars.
There is a number between zero and ALL OF IT.
College is free in texas. Should the athletes used to make money for the colleges through the games, sales, merchandise be paid?? The college was free, already.
Jibartik
06-01-2021, 12:30 PM
Yeah of course athletes are used to recruit students, that is my point, just like every other department in school.
If they should get payed for that so should every other student.
Horza
06-01-2021, 12:33 PM
DeSantis 2024
DeSantis is going to crush 2024.
https://i.imgur.com/Rm6nkQh.gif
Jibartik
06-01-2021, 12:35 PM
Libs: I might become a billionaire athlete so give them free stuff
Cosvs: I might become a billionaire so give them free stuff
lmao
Toxigen
06-01-2021, 12:35 PM
He is the ideal candidate.
Can't wait to Make America Florida.
Gravydoo II
06-01-2021, 12:43 PM
Yeah of course athletes are used to recruit students, that is my point, just like every other department in school.
If they should get payed for that so should every other student.
I agree, if the college is making money off their name, likeness, or actions. Like if some kid invents a new bed for pregnant people to give birth in or some shit. College claims it under its research dept, makes millions selling this product. Should the inventor get a piece even though they used the college facilities, budget, and materials??
Of course they should.
If I was selling jerseys with your name on the back of it, you'd want a piece. If I was selling action figures of you, you'd want a piece of it. Posters of you, you'd want a piece. If I was using you to get chevy or someone to sponsor an event featuring you, you should get some of the proceeds.
I dont care if its concert tickets for the school band. Bakes sales selling products made by the students. If they turn a profit, the students should see some of it.
Like how have they not paid for their scholarship and then some 2 years into an outstanding college football career?? They made that school millions with sales at the games, merchandise, and recruited more athletes to keep the cycle going off that kids name and deeds. You always sell more beer when you're winning.
Patriam1066
06-01-2021, 12:44 PM
Yes I clearly meant HVAC. Ass.
Football culture is garbage anyway. Half those dudes are rapists
Patriam1066
06-01-2021, 12:45 PM
Professional athletes should be taxed 75%
Gravydoo II
06-01-2021, 12:48 PM
It does need TOTAL reform but too many people paid too many politicians to let that happen. You gotta get your foot in the door some how. This is the crack that will bring the wall down. It needs reform, it does. It wont happen over night and all students wont be paid, wont happen. The big stand out, reason why they are winning, reason why people go to the games athletes are the only way in. America does not give a flying fuck about the educators, but this could lead to more changes.
See the thing about change is you can always change it back. You republicans are SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO against any change because you think it has to be like that FOREVER after you change it. No.. You can repaint a car if you dont like the color. You can even repaint THAT color!
Jibartik
06-01-2021, 12:53 PM
I agree, if the college is making money off their name, likeness, or actions. Like if some kid invents a new bed for pregnant people to give birth in or some shit. College claims it under its research dept, makes millions selling this product. Should the inventor get a piece even though they used the college facilities, budget, and materials??
Of course they should.
If I was selling jerseys with your name on the back of it, you'd want a piece. If I was selling action figures of you, you'd want a piece of it. Posters of you, you'd want a piece. If I was using you to get chevy or someone to sponsor an event featuring you, you should get some of the proceeds.
I dont care if its concert tickets for the school band. Bakes sales selling products made by the students. If they turn a profit, the students should see some of it.
Like how have they not paid for their scholarship and then some 2 years into an outstanding college football career?? They made that school millions with sales at the games, merchandise, and recruited more athletes to keep the cycle going off that kids name and deeds. You always sell more beer when you're winning.
Lets take all the scholarship money we give to math and science and use it to pay athletics students.
This is the math the math and science graduates are coming up with.
Patriam1066
06-01-2021, 12:55 PM
Athletes are barely literate. They should be required to have a 4.0 to even participate, def not be paid
Ass backwards priorities in this country
Gravydoo II
06-01-2021, 12:58 PM
Mr DeSantis has repeatedly downplayed the dangers of the coronavirus, which has killed 36,773 people in Florida so far. He ordered the state reopened in April 2020, just as the pandemic was reaching its earliest peaks in the United States, and has resisted new lockdowns since then.
“So far, DOH emails reviewed by the Miami Herald show Jones was asked to remove data from public view after receiving questions about it from the news organization,” the editorial board said. “In addition, she has gone up against an administration that has shamelessly concealed vital COVID information during the past year. Unfortunately, the possibility of DOH manipulating information is not a stretch.”
Now shes got whistle blower status. Imagine that. You get trash out of the government and it starts to function again. I know thats the whole republican thing.. Break the government then point to it and say "its broken!".
Gravydoo II
06-01-2021, 01:02 PM
Completely missed the point. COMPLETELY.
I said, you gotta get your foot in the door SOME HOW. Athletes, since america worships them WAY more than any teacher or educator, get the headlines and spotlight. Its like you dont want to understand what I'm saying.
You gotta START somewhere. Its like you're so opposed to this because the biggest money maker is being targeted first. If the college is MAKING MONEY OFF THE STUDENTS, they should be paid.
You see the IF statement there? You see how that works? IF the college is NOT making money off the student, they should not be paid.
See how that works??? Then you say some dumb shit like "lets pay the athletes the math money".
Toxigen
06-01-2021, 01:02 PM
Mr DeSantis has repeatedly downplayed the dangers of the coronavirus, which has killed 36,773 people in Florida so far. He ordered the state reopened in April 2020, just as the pandemic was reaching its earliest peaks in the United States, and has resisted new lockdowns since then.
“So far, DOH emails reviewed by the Miami Herald show Jones was asked to remove data from public view after receiving questions about it from the news organization,” the editorial board said. “In addition, she has gone up against an administration that has shamelessly concealed vital COVID information during the past year. Unfortunately, the possibility of DOH manipulating information is not a stretch.”
Now shes got whistle blower status. Imagine that. You get trash out of the government and it starts to function again. I know thats the whole republican thing.. Break the government then point to it and say "its broken!".
you're not the brightest bulb
rona is over
florida is 100% back to normal
everything is fine
desantis made all the right calls
i wonder why so many people from NY, MA, etc are moving here?
tired of liberal dipshit policy-makers
Horza
06-01-2021, 01:03 PM
Mr DeSantis has repeatedly downplayed the dangers of the coronavirus, which has killed 36,773 people in Florida so far. He ordered the state reopened in April 2020, just as the pandemic was reaching its earliest peaks in the United States, and has resisted new lockdowns since then.
Republicans think this is a good thing. It's not a political party, it's a death cult.
Jibartik
06-01-2021, 01:03 PM
desantis is a neolib.
starkind
06-01-2021, 01:04 PM
I agree with Jibartik. The privilege and opportunity to become a rich athlete is an opportunity and a luxury.
Fuck you if you think you're entitled to it. It's one of the few things not 3000% fucked up yet, tho it already seems to be a career choice riddled with bureaucracy and bullshit. Rather then merit or might.
Athletes are barely literate. They should be required to have a 4.0 to even participate, def not be paid
Ass backwards priorities in this country
Gravydoo II
06-01-2021, 01:07 PM
36k dead. Doesnt seem fine to me.
LOL what a FAILURE. 36k dead! What a hero! LOLOL
I cant wait til he runs. Its gonna be fucking hilarious.
You think Donny Rape will allow it?? Did he kiss donnys asshole to get his blessing?
Patriam1066
06-01-2021, 01:08 PM
We should pay physicists to pursue PhDs, not linebackers to pursue quarterbacks
Hope this helps!
Toxigen
06-01-2021, 01:08 PM
36k people died with rona in their system
not 36k people died because of rona in their system
hope this helps
Jibartik
06-01-2021, 01:09 PM
actual photo of destantis running against trump in the next republican primary
https://i.imgur.com/yiLoQin.png
Gravydoo II
06-01-2021, 01:11 PM
I agree with Jibartik. The privilege and opportunity to become a rich athlete is an opportunity and a luxury.
Fuck you if you think you're entitled to it. It's one of the few things not 3000% fucked up yet, tho it already seems to be a career choice riddled with bureaucracy and bullshit. Rather then merit or might.
How is someone who has to get approval from a board of people "entitled" ??? I dont understand your point. How is someone entitled to a scholarship they were selected for from an entire school?? They didnt work for it at all? The college just points at kids on the street and says "ok you're gonna be a QB, get in" or is there a rigorous selection process??
Tell us, since you know. lol
Mblake1981
06-01-2021, 01:12 PM
The athletes are not used to recruit other students?? Who wants to join a losing team?? You recruit with the offer of "you could be playing with tebow" or whatever it may be. To say that an athlete should not be paid because they were paid with a scholarship, what about all the other scholarships? Academic, music, or sports, if the college is making money off the student, the student should see a piece of it. Not millions of dollars. Nobody has ever said millions of dollars.
There is a number between zero and ALL OF IT.
College is free in texas. Should the athletes used to make money for the colleges through the games, sales, merchandise be paid?? The college was free, already.
"Earn while you learn with on the job training."
Jibartik
06-01-2021, 01:14 PM
See how that works??? Then you say some dumb shit like "lets pay the athletes the math money".
Im afraid you dont know how schools spend money.
The money that department gets at every school in the country is reduced and spent on stadiums and advertising and recruiting and number of employees athletic require to name a few things.
If you think adding paying athletes (and not math students) wont result in more of that money being siphoned off, then I have a republican candidate who thinks trickledown economics works Id like you to vote for.
Mr DeSantis has repeatedly downplayed the dangers of the coronavirus, which has killed 36,773 people in Florida so far. He ordered the state reopened in April 2020, just as the pandemic was reaching its earliest peaks in the United States, and has resisted new lockdowns since then.
“So far, DOH emails reviewed by the Miami Herald show Jones was asked to remove data from public view after receiving questions about it from the news organization,” the editorial board said. “In addition, she has gone up against an administration that has shamelessly concealed vital COVID information during the past year. Unfortunately, the possibility of DOH manipulating information is not a stretch.”
Now shes got whistle blower status. Imagine that. You get trash out of the government and it starts to function again. I know thats the whole republican thing.. Break the government then point to it and say "its broken!".
https://cbs12.com/news/local/ousted-dashboard-designers-claims-dont-add-up-former-colleagues-and-experts-say
WEST PALM BEACH, Fla. (CBS12) — Former colleagues of fired dashboard designer Rebekah Jones and public health experts tell CBS12 News her claims that she was directed to delete COVID cases and deaths from the state’s data are unsupported by the evidence.
In a now-deleted tweet from December 2020, Jones also alleged that Dr. Roberson “told me to delete cases and deaths.” Jones went on to demand Roberson resign.
But, unlike the emails obtained by the Tampa Bay Times, Jones provides no evidence that these interactions occurred.
CBS12 News sent Jones and her attorney a request for evidence proving she was asked to alter raw COVID data and we have not heard back.
In a recent, also deleted, tweet Jones backtracked writing that "deleting deaths was never something I was asked to do. I've never claimed it was."
Patriam1066
06-01-2021, 01:14 PM
1. We should be subsidizing the education of teachers, not athletes. What is the relative societal value for the profession? That’s how scholarships should be disbursed, based on societal need and job saturation
2. Title IX means that college athletics is actually a money burning industry. To pay football players at the few schools where they net the university money, would be to overall reduce the amount of financial support going to other athletics programs under Title IX and other education overall
Athletes absolutely should not be paid, and honestly, we should require more for participation and stop publicly funding stadiums as well. We glorify the dumbest fucking people in the US. SAD BIGLY
Gravydoo II
06-01-2021, 01:16 PM
We should pay physicists to pursue PhDs, not linebackers to pursue quarterbacks
Hope this helps!
No shit. Thats not going to happen though. This is america, not europe. Athletes will be paid before everyone else. Thats just the way it is. Once they get paid, they will move on to everyone else or not.
Dont cry to us about it, do something. We should be paying the educators tons of money to keep them here. They should be traded between colleges like players. There should be a draft every year for teachers and scientists coming out of high school and college. This country could be SO much more, but it wont be. The athletes will be first. Thats just how it is. I dont make the fuckin rules, I didnt write the shit, but the implication is nation wide and spreads to other fields.
You cant see how this can be used in the future to justify paying students who make real contributions to society in science and research fields to get a chunk of their contribution??
Shit should be like this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aYOg8EON29Y&ab_channel=Key%26PeeleKey%26Peele
Jibartik
06-01-2021, 01:16 PM
Progressives: Pay billionaire athletes more money
Conserves: we should stop spending on stadiums and invest in doctors and science
PARTIES FLIPPED
Jibartik
06-01-2021, 01:19 PM
Doug: Whats your wife do?
Frank: OF
:o
Patriam1066
06-01-2021, 01:19 PM
1. They get a free education. If they choose to fuck sorority sisters and major in basket weaving, that’s on them and their dog shit parents.
2. Football programs that make money send that money to other athletics programs that don’t make money, like women’s water polo
But obviously there is money being made, that’s why in every state a football coach is the highest paid public employee. I agree with you, let’s reduce the role of athletics and stop elevating athletes to celebrity. Most of them can’t complete a coloring book, such is the IQ on display
Gravydoo II
06-01-2021, 01:23 PM
Progressives: Pay billionaire athletes more money
Conserves: we should stop spending on stadiums and invest in doctors and science
PARTIES FLIPPED
dumb as fuck... Just said this is how shit STARTS. This is the BEGINNING. Its like you have a learning disability.
I thought you were alright but man its like you cant read or understand how this will force the college to pay EVERYONE they make money from in the future.
You think it will stop here?
You think the next dept isnt going to come up with a lawsuit using this one to justify theirs??
Stop thinking so small. Dont be a little brain man.
Jibartik
06-01-2021, 01:23 PM
Progressives: the party of the ultra wealthy who care about the poor (we swear).
https://i.imgur.com/O8b1xBy.jpg
Jibartik
06-01-2021, 01:26 PM
SPEAKING OF CANADIANS
Didn't this week we just find out the Canadians genocided all the indigenous children and buried them (ironically) under schools for the white colonists they replaced?
Pulgasari
06-01-2021, 01:29 PM
desantis is a neolib.
Really? :o
Gravydoo II
06-01-2021, 01:30 PM
Lets sell merchandise with your face and name on it and i will keep the money. The colleges now own their face and name? The college owns their likeness??
Post your face and real name so we can get these shirts made. Im keeping all the money.
Put your money where your mouth is. Dont be a pussy. You just said its OK. I can use your likeness and name to make money off you.
Why doesnt the dept of education bar the colleges from selling merchandise featuring the students?
Horza
06-01-2021, 01:31 PM
Really? :o
Neoliberal means anybody I don't like.
Jibartik
06-01-2021, 01:31 PM
Really? :o
anyone who is not trump (or gaetez if given the crown by gods soldier trump) is a neolip. :o
Neoliberal means anybody I don't like.
It means anyone who isnt trump because horza is so desperate for someone besides trump he wants bush 2 back lol
PARTIES FLIPPED
Pulgasari
06-01-2021, 01:32 PM
Lets sell merchandise with your face and name on it and i will keep the money. The colleges now own their face and name? The college owns their likeness??
Post your face and real name so we can get these shirts made. Im keeping all the money.
Put your money where your mouth is. Dont be a pussy. You just said its OK. I can use your likeness and name to make money off you.
Why doesnt the dept of education bar the colleges from selling merchandise featuring the students?
They used to use fake names. Like we all knew who was running Student Body Right, but technically!
Horza
06-01-2021, 01:34 PM
It means anyone who isnt trump because horza is so desperate for someone besides trump he wants bush 2 back lol
PARTIES FLIPPED
drugs
Jibartik
06-01-2021, 01:39 PM
drugs
yes because (parties flipped!)
https://i.imgur.com/viFfuUQ.png
Now go enjoy your libtard holly roller camp where you sing songs about climate change and repent for the sins of your forefathers.
Pulgasari
06-01-2021, 01:42 PM
yes because (parties flipped!)
https://i.imgur.com/viFfuUQ.png
Now go enjoy your libtard holly roller camp where you sing songs about climate change and repent for the sins of your forefathers.
Parties didn't flip, the paleos took control from the neocons.
Mblake1981
06-01-2021, 01:43 PM
It's all Government, Social Media and weirdness to me.
Pulgasari
06-01-2021, 01:46 PM
It's all Government, Social Media and weirdness to me.
It's okay, the old left is resurgent too.
Gravydoo II
06-01-2021, 01:47 PM
yes because (parties flipped!)
https://i.imgur.com/viFfuUQ.png
Now go enjoy your libtard holly roller camp where you sing songs about climate change and repent for the sins of your forefathers.
You mean like a church??? You know, singing to invisible people.. singing about fake shit. Worshiping fake shit in a big ole group, every week.. then pay your pastor to fuck your wife. Literally going to a man a confessing your sins, like some kind of weak coward begging to be forgiven for being a human?? lol prayer is begging, weak fuck.
Jibartik
06-01-2021, 01:48 PM
No the parties flipped they flipped from religious people worshiping God to religious people worshiping politics.
It’s just religion. Since the beginning of time religion was always government. Now we have a non-religious government and suddenly people think they’re going to not be religious? No people believe in this shit the same way my 96-year-old aunt believed in Protestantism.
The Democrats are the party of the religious now and the conservatives of the party of the non-religious and that’s just the way it is.
sorry a new religion is still a religion.
It’s just that your religion is incompatible with Christianity so you think that anyone who is a Christian or a Jew is a colonist bastard but anyone who worships politics is holy.
Last thing I’m gonna say is no religion ever started a war. only politics, only government, only those two things started every single war on this planet.
The new religion is worshiping politics and the Democrats are like in the 1980s telivised evangelism stage of their religion.
Mblake1981
06-01-2021, 01:50 PM
You mean like a church??? You know, singing to invisible people.. singing about fake shit. Worshiping fake shit in a big ole group, every week.. then pay your pastor to fuck your wife. Literally going to a man a confessing your sins, like some kind of weak coward begging to be forgiven for being a human?? lol prayer is begging, weak fuck.
What kind of church did you attend, for that matter most of these things you go off on are weird AF, do you come from a strange town or something?
Pulgasari
06-01-2021, 01:52 PM
No the parties flipped they flipped from religious people worshiping God to religious people worshiping politics.
It’s just religion. Since the beginning of time religion was always government. Now we have a non-religious government and suddenly people think they’re going to not be religious? No people believe in this shit the same way my 96-year-old aunt believed in Protestantism.
The Democrats are the party of the religious now and the conservatives of the party of the non-religious and that’s just the way it is.
sorry a new religion is still a religion.
It’s just that your religion is incompatible with Christianity so you think that anyone who is a Christian or a Jew is a colonist bastard but anyone who worships politics is holy.
Last thing I’m gonna say is no religion ever started a war. only politics, only government, only those two things started every single war on this planet.
The new religion is worshiping politics and the Democrats are like in the 1980s telivised evangelism stage of their religion.
Years behind. God died in the 1800s, tiger. That's how we got into this mess.
Mblake1981
06-01-2021, 01:53 PM
Drugs is Horzas newest catch phrase since Trump is falling a bit short with anger.
Sorry, It was social media. Not a needle. You are mixed up in it too.
starkind
06-01-2021, 01:56 PM
Just remember executions were once considered a courtesy, respect, and mercy.
Horza
06-01-2021, 01:57 PM
Drugs is Horzas newest catch phrase since Trump is falling a bit short with anger.
Sorry, It was social media. Not a needle. You are mixed up in it too.
If the methhead's shoe fits.
Gravydoo II
06-01-2021, 01:59 PM
So the crusades started because of not religion. Got it. Inquisition, not religion. 9/11, iraq afghanistan was started by a religion. wahabeism.
The nazi's had a state religion. Ethnoism, or whatever the fuck it was called.
So if you leave out all those millions of dead people, yeah. Religion never started a war. Sure did fuck a LOT of children though. Presides over the marriage of over 500,000 underage brides in the USA every year, too.
They run soup kitchens though so they are ALL good and ALL right. lolol
Pulgasari
06-01-2021, 02:01 PM
Drugs is Horzas newest catch phrase
Sorry, It was social media. Not a needle. You are mixed up in it too.
Get off the sidelines and wrestle with us in the mud.
Jibartik
06-01-2021, 02:05 PM
Years behind. God died in the 1800s, tiger. That's how we got into this mess.
you dont need god to make a religion.
a, star dust makeup sounds good to me.
All you need, are 10 rules to live by.
Look at both religion, and politics. :o
Jibartik
06-01-2021, 02:10 PM
So the crusades started because of not religion
That is correct. The Vatican is not a religion and they were the goverment at the time of the crusades' and for power, they took as much as they could from their (decided by the goverments) enemies.
In fact, the Vatican when it came into power literally made up it's own religion to maintain a rule of law, based on Christianity and Judaism and paganism.
No difference between the crusades and any other war, ever.
Patriam1066
06-01-2021, 02:11 PM
The battle of manzikert and the pope’s fear of the kingdom of Sicily started the crusades
Muslims invading Anatolia, in other words. Strange how, for the liberal, history only starts when the white person enters combat. A Palestinian fires a rocket or a Turk murders a Christian, that wasn’t violence. The retaliation is, however. Idiots
Patriam1066
06-01-2021, 02:14 PM
That is correct. The Vatican is not a religion and they were the goverment at the time of the crusades' and for power, they took as much as they could from their (decided by the goverments) enemies.
In fact, the Vatican when it came into power literally made up it's own religion to maintain a rule of law, based on Christianity and Judaism and paganism.
No difference between the crucades and any other war, ever.
Incorrect
Alexios Komnenos and pope urban had mutual suspicions about several European states, plus Constantinople had very real fears. Manzikert + the fall of Antioch (IE Muslims invading). At the time, Shia Egypt was aligned with Byzantium because the Sunni turks were being fairly barbaric to both Christian and Shia civilian populations, in addition to disrupting trade
Patriam1066
06-01-2021, 02:16 PM
Crusades happened because desert brown people who worship Satan and an accident of history led to a 1400 year straight history of dickheads continuing to hate women, gays, Jews, Christians, and themselves
Sell Iran nukes and f-22s. We the solution to this problem. A final one
From the Indus to the pillars of the Hercules, the Arab finds hell his destiny
Jibartik
06-01-2021, 02:17 PM
Incorrect
Alexios Komnenos and pope urban had mutual suspicions about several European states, plus Constantinople had very real fears. Manzikert + the fall of Antioch (IE Muslims invading). At the time, Shia Egypt was aligned with Byzantium because the Sunni turks were being fairly barbaric to both Christian and Shia civilian populations, in addition to disrupting trade
how is what you say any different than what I said or contradict it in any way?
In the first week of March 1095, a delegation from the Byzantine emperor Alexius I Comnenus presented Urban with a request for help against the Turks. Pope Urban II’s response was to preach the First Crusade, starting on November 27, 1095, at the Council of Clermont in his home country of France.
As i said, nothing to do with religion, unless you understand that religion was goverment before we invented goverment, and that they are 1:1 the same to this day.
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