the i dont care about politics anymore thread

[Homesteaded]

They have the warrant but they don’t have the probable cause portion. Basically they don’t know what they were after.

[robayon]

Isn’t he on tape saying find me votes down there in Georgia?

It sure sounds like himYeah if I remember correctly he was talking to Brad Raffensperger during that conversation

I am always doubtful considering how many times this guy just slips out of consequences for his crimes, but it seems like the forces are finally aligning against him as they should have been back in 2015. I remember saying to someone when the press was giving him shit for some petty crap that it was okay, because a guy like that you have to attack from every possible angle at all times and absolutely never let up. Don't give him an inch. Mock his hair, mock his slimy wife, and go after him for his federal crimes (that he personally turned into a felony LMAO)

[Kaveh]

Meh, no need to mock a man’s wife, even if he did do it to Ted cruz

Statesmen should be like Cincinnatus

[robayon]

Fine, it's no longer necessary anyways. This was during the "I Don't Care, Do U?" phase.

But I do wonder who the leaker is in his house. I can imagine it being one of the large adult sons or Jared for some reason, all of them have a pretty solid motivation to take the old man down if they get a chance. Donnie betraying every single person who has ever been loyal to him has to catch up to him someday

[Reiwa]

More importantly if this part is upheld then it is a fine and jail time or no position in government for Humpty Dumpty Trumpy.

"Whoever, having the custody of any such record, proceeding, map, book, document, paper, or other thing, willfully and unlawfully conceals, removes, mutilates, obliterates, falsifies, or destroys the same, shall be fined" $2,000, up to three years in prison or "shall forfeit his office and be disqualified from holding any office under the United States."

Hilarious irony and in true fashion that comes with the MAGA movement; Trump’s own law is causing all of this.

Oh and Dossier as part of the Meuller report lead to guilty pleas. As in admittance that at least parts were correct. Ouch! You poor poor MAGA brainwashed fool.

Get help Elizondo

The Volokh Conspiracy: 2071
(https://reason.com/volokh/2022/08/08/no-18-u-s-c-%C2%A7-2071-cannot-disqualify-trump-from-the-presidency/)

18 U.S.C. § 2071 Cannot Disqualify Trump From The Presidency

Under Powell v. McCormack and U.S. Term Limits v. Thornton, Congress and the states cannot "add to the express textual qualifications for House and Senate seats in Article I."

the Constitution sets eligibility criteria for who can be president, and argued that Supreme Court rulings suggest Congress cannot alter it. The Constitution allows Congress to disqualify people from holding office in impeachment proceedings, but grants no such power for ordinary criminal law.

[Botten]

The Volokh Conspiracy: 2071
(https://reason.com/volokh/2022/08/08/no-18-u-s-c-%C2%A7-2071-cannot-disqualify-trump-from-the-presidency/)

Nah it was Wayne Allyn Root who wanted him as leader of the house next House section. But I could see what you thought.

[Reiwa]

Nah it was Wayne Allyn Root who wanted him as leader of the house next House section. But I could see what you thought.

What

[Homesteaded]

FBI Office attacked in Ohio...I wonder if it's actually an FBI agent.

[robayon]

That's a lot of layers of false flagging. It is possible, sure

I think it's more likely that years of violent rhetoric from the right have broken the minds of some of its adherents and some of them pick up a weapon, which is precisely the outcome the Steven Crowders and Ben Shapiros want

[azeth]

Over the past two years conservative Republicans have allied themselves with russia, try to overthrow our democratic government, and now want to abolish the FBI the doj and the atf. How can anybody call themselves a republican ever again

[Kaveh]

Goes into an office with a nail gun? Cmon someone should’ve lit his ass up

[Jibartik]

What has the ATF done since it killed all those women and children in waco?

[azeth]

What has the ATF done since it killed all those women and children in waco?

the F part of ATF regulates something repubs believe to be a divine right

[robayon]

What has the ATF done since it killed all those women and children in waco?https://www.themarshallproject.org/2015/05/19/atf-s-greatest-hits

[Reiwa]

the F part of ATF regulates something repubs believe to be a divine right

https://i.imgur.com/DGsmOuM.png

[booter]

if it really is a witch hunt, trump can release the warrant and show everyone what their evidence was, and receipts of EXACTLY WHAT THEY TOOK. it would blow up on the dems immediately if it were actually a witch hunt.

all his excuses are just back-handed admissions of guilt. he's openly speculating that someone at mar-a-lago has been "wearing a wire". well, that wouldn't matter if you weren't guilty of committing crimes, and you wouldn't be concerned about it. you also wouldn't start suggesting the fbi "planted evidence" unless you were sure they actually found what they were apparently tipped off to find.

someone in his inner circle flipped and he knows it. and by that logic, it means criminal activity has taken place. when someone "flips" it is from the side of crime to the side of law and order.

has anyone seen mark meadows lately?

[Reiwa]

There's no way there's anything criminal is in the official documents anyway. Just no.

hGo5bxWy21g

[Lune]

It's a cult. Watch that documentary about NXIVM and the branded sex slave, they talk about Keith Raniere the same way Republicans talk about Trump, and their devotion is just as unwavering.

They either believe it's actually a witch hunt (in which case they probably believe every single prisoner who says they're innocent, the difference being they actively try to obstruct due process in revealing the truth), or they believe it's not a witch hunt (in which case they support his criminal enterprises anyways, destroying our institutions, corrupting our elections, essentially "mobbing up" our country in the form of Putin's Russia).

Hopefully the FBI can slap the stupid and the criminal out of them like they did with NXIVM

Case in point, this scary amount of cult:

They have the warrant but they don’t have the probable cause portion. Basically they don’t know what they were after.

Probable cause is what gets presented to a judge for their decision-making. That a judge approved the warrant means the judge decided the evidence, the "probable cause", was profound enough to warrant a raid on an ex-president. If you have issues with the judge's decision-making, I wonder, did you also have issues with the judge who allowed Clinton's emails to be subpoena'd for Comey just before the 2016 election? Do you know how to find out what the warrant said? Trump can show it to you. Do you think he will?

FBI Office attacked in Ohio...I wonder if it's actually an FBI agent.

Every attack that reflects poorly on the cult is an inside job or false flag. Every attack on the cult is a dangerous transgression by evil deep state liberals. Evil deep state liberals are simultaneously too soft and effete to run the country properly, while also so pernicious, monolithic, and effective an organization that they can rig elections and run out country as a shadowy cabal with their fingers in everything.

America needs a kool-aid cleanse

[robayon]

I thought that John Wilson being in an a capella group as his connection to NXIVM was amazing.

Also, How To with John Wilson and The Rehearsal are amazing television. If you can handle weaponized cringe, anyways.

G7nA9CGjyBE

[MrSparkle001]

FBI Office attacked in Ohio...I wonder if it's actually an FBI agent.

Seriously? People are attacking the FBI over this?

This fucking country is ridiculous.

https://i.imgur.com/JMsgs2i.gif

[MrSparkle001]

"if the FBI finds anything, they planted evidence" is the new "if joe biden wins, they stole the election"

just looks more and more guilty and priming his cultists to not accept reality, again

Sounds an awful lot like the Clinton camp claiming that "if Trump wins it's because of Russian interference"

None of it is true. None of this is true. Not Russians stealing the election, not Biden stealing the election, not Trump as the mastermind of some Jan 6 plot to take control of the country by force. You're all getting so sucked up into the bullshit the media is spewing at you you're becoming mindless NPCs.

https://ih1.redbubble.net/image.1897894798.5454/st,small,507x507-pad,600x600,f8f8f8.jpg

[robayon]

Do you know that booter believed that re: Hillary's excuse for losing to Donald?

Even if they do, does it really mean this is all a bunch of bullshit? An entire federal agency headed by a guy Trump appointed and a bunch of judges seem to believe it!

[MrSparkle001]

Do you know that booter believed that re: Hillary's excuse for losing to Donald?

Even if they do, does it really mean this is all a bunch of bullshit? An entire federal agency headed by a guy Trump appointed and a bunch of judges seem to believe it!

It's all politics. Politics is a house of cards.

[robayon]

It's all politics. Politics is a house of cards.That's not an answer to my question.

Do you really believe all of the evidence for Donald's crimes are fabricated? If not all, but some - which ones? Why those?

[magnetaress]

Sounds an awful lot like the Clinton camp claiming that "if Trump wins it's because of Russian interference"

None of it is true. None of this is true. Not Russians stealing the election, not Biden stealing the election, not Trump as the mastermind of some Jan 6 plot to take control of the country by force. You're all getting so sucked up into the bullshit the media is spewing at you you're becoming mindless NPCs.

https://ih1.redbubble.net/image.1897894798.5454/st,small,507x507-pad,600x600,f8f8f8.jpg

the spinny loading circle thing is me i don't know about the rest of the bullshityou typed

[azeth]

Tfg is going to prison

[robayon]

I would welcome that but I really doubt it

[magnetaress]

Tfg is going to prison

who is tfg?

[Jibartik]

It's a cult.

atf.

Ohhh I see why you guys like the atf lol

https://i.imgur.com/WFS2kO4.png

[Rethalis]

18395

[robayon]

who is tfg?the former guy

it's for when you don't actually wanna say Trump, like he's Beetlejuice

[azeth]

who is tfg?

The former guy

[Botten]

None of it is true. None of this is true. Not Russians stealing the election, not Biden stealing the election, not Trump as the mastermind of some Jan 6 plot to take control of the country by force. You're all getting so sucked up into the bullshit the media is spewing at you you're becoming mindless NPCs.

We GOP need another do over!!! They are the same guys. Both sides do the same thing.
Not one side has more scandals than the other.

Just this one time please ignore Nixon, Bush and Trump. It won’t happen a fourth time. Now please consider our next up and coming dictator errr candidate Dirty Santchez.

[Botten]

<comedy pic to down playing the raid.jpg>

Now for something real:

Justice Dept. seeks to unseal motion for search warrant at Trump’s Mar-a-Lago (https://www.washingtonpost.com/national-security/2022/08/11/garland-trump-mar-a-lago/)

In before GOP tangents again to Biden’s Laptop like Trump is now. Go sheep follow the flock!

[azeth]

"the documents in question are so sensitive in nature pertaining to our national security that the doj was forced to act"

[Horza]

Now that the Department of Justice has filed a motion to unseal the search warrant, I'm sure Trumptards will stop trying to murder FBI agents.

[MrSparkle001]

the spinny loading circle thing is me i don't know about the rest of the bullshityou typed

Good, you're better off not knowing it. It would poison your mind and turn you into a drone.

[Skarne]

Now for something real:

Justice Dept. seeks to unseal motion for search warrant at Trump’s Mar-a-Lago (https://www.washingtonpost.com/national-security/2022/08/11/garland-trump-mar-a-lago/)

In before GOP tangents again to Biden’s Laptop like Trump is now. Go sheep follow the flock!

They won’t have anything solid to say until they hear what to think from Tucker and hannity. Seriously, I’ve noticed that they’ll make a dumb ass point, then literally the next morning after Tucker completely shift to the same things he was saying. Sad.

[suptoofs]

The mental gymnastics are going to be entertaining, grab popcorn, pals.

[Skarne]

I predict since AG is moving to unseal the warrant, trump and his lawyers will block it.

[Horza]

I predict since AG is moving to unseal the warrant, trump and his lawyers will block it.

Of course he's going to block it, and then his braindead followers will go right back to threatening to firebomb FBI offices.

[magnetaress]

Beetlejuice Beetlejuice Beetlejuice!

[Jibartik]

Beetlejuice Beetlejuice Beetlejuice!

:D

[Reiwa]

the former guy

it's for when you don't actually wanna say Trump, like he's Beetlejuice

This is the worst thing Tromp ever done. :p

[Reiwa]

Google says nuke-u-lar secrets? :o

[Jibartik]

MSNBC Leaks photos of the documents found in trumps safe. (https://youtu.be/0OE6UuW7QW0)

[robayon]

:rolleyes:

https://i.imgur.com/wORx11U.png

[azeth]

Donald Trump sold information about nuclear power and weapons to Saudi Arabia

[Skarne]

Dude fuck Donald Trump. Traitors the lot of them. With money comes corruption and everyone in the GOP was getting paid. That’s why they’re grabbing onto him so hard. Fuck these traitors.

[robayon]

Nuclear secrets to the Saudis, eh?

I am sure that will be good for relations with Israel, least problematic ally

[Rethalis]

we talking about the sale back in 2019 that made like 2 days in the news or is it a different nuclear tech thing?

[Skarne]

https://www.fox23.com/news/trending/report-fbi-searched-trumps-home-documents-relating-nuclear-weapons/U4JYWDAX7JF4NICZCGPK3GGB44/?outputType=amp

[Rethalis]

Wouldn't getting back nuclear tech be kind of important when they had a free full invitation to come and retrieve it and decided to leave it with all the other boxes they didn't take?

[azeth]

Wouldn't getting back nuclear tech be kind of important when they had a free full invitation to come and retrieve it and decided to leave it with all the other boxes they didn't take?

I really don't think it's time for this rhetoric anymore. This is the most severe thing that has ever happened to the security of the United States of America

[Skarne]

Wouldn't getting back nuclear tech be kind of important when they had a free full invitation to come and retrieve it and decided to leave it with all the other boxes they didn't take?

They issued a subpoena for these documents in the spring and he was ducking them until the search warrant…are you really going to defend this man? Don’t you love our country dude? Think about this. Why did he take them in the first place?

Donald Trump is a traitor to America and it’s constitution. Go support another candidate for president please.

[Rethalis]

I really don't think it's time for this rhetoric anymore. This is the most severe thing that has ever happened to the security of the United States of America

It is not the most severe thing, but it is pretty serious if true. Not holding my breath from a secret source. They had plenty of access to the documents beforehand.

[Reiwa]

They issued a subpoena for these documents in the spring and he was ducking them until the search warrant…are you really going to defend this man? Don’t you love our country dude? Think about this. Why did he take them in the first place?

Donald Trump is a traitor to America and it’s constitution. Go support another candidate for president please.

Are you saying the US DOJ took 5 months to conduct a raid to protect nuclear secrets?

[Skarne]

It is not the most severe thing, but it is pretty serious if true. Not holding my breath from a secret source. They had plenty of access to the documents beforehand.

You are misinformed. They did not have plenty of access what are you talking about?

[Skarne]

Are you saying the US DOJ took 5 months to conduct a raid to protect nuclear secrets?

Have you any idea how slow our justice system is? Dude is a past president. Look how people reacted when they issued the search warrant. They absolutely better have been sure things were done properly.

Also, that’s 5 months of him not giving up the documents through subpoena so I don’t see your point.

[Jibartik]

If you could wish for any turn of events what would you?

Im thinking trump dissapears and everyone is freaking out, then it turns out he's in North korea!

[azeth]

Why does it feel like Trump and Melania are about to fly to Belarus

[Skarne]

If you could wish for any turn of events what would you?

Im thinking trump dissapears and everyone is freaking out, then it turns out he's in North korea!

Haha

[Rethalis]

You are misinformed. They did not have plenty of access what are you talking about?

https://www.cnn.com/2022/08/11/politics/mar-a-lago-search-subpoena-latest/index.html

They came and retrieved boxes and left others. Were only some boxes approved and others not or something?

[Kaveh]

Can we let this play out for once before we jump to conclusions?

[robayon]

Are you saying the US DOJ took 5 months to conduct a raid to protect nuclear secrets?There’s an unexploded nuclear bomb somewhere off Tybee Island underwater and it has been there since 1958

Don’t put it past any government org

[Elizondo]

lol this Dem brownshirt raid is backfiring spectacularly so badly

Get bent notsees

[Skarne]

lol this Dem brownshirt raid is backfiring spectacularly so badly

Get bent notsees

I’ll wait to hear what uncle Tucker tells you to say because above isn’t really an argument.

[azeth]

Im mostly sad about and for Elizondo and others who are just wrapped around this messiah figure

[TheBardo]

lol this Dem brownshirt raid is backfiring spectacularly so badly

Get bent notsees

You ok dude?

[Skarne]

https://www.cnn.com/2022/08/11/politics/mar-a-lago-search-subpoena-latest/index.html

They came and retrieved boxes and left others. Were only some boxes approved and others not or something?

Maybe because they were in a safe which was disclosed by an informant. That shit doesn’t even matter anyway. Why the fuck did he have nuclear documents in addition to other classified documents that can’t even be disclosed publicly. The nuclear stuff isn’t even the biggest thing apparently.

[Kaveh]

Move the capital to Nebraska and ban lobbying

[Elizondo]

I’ll wait to hear what uncle Tucker tells you to say because above isn’t really an argument.

lol ok Horza Jr

[Skarne]

lol ok Horza Jr

At least I don’t worship a traitor.

Lemme guess…”lol k” or “ok groomer”

How about your side man? How can you defend this?

[azeth]

I dont know how these revelations, IF TRUE SURE, wont be unifying for the country. What could break the spell more quickly than your cult leader selling his soul

[TheBardo]

Beginning to think there’s something not quite right with this trump guy

[Rethalis]

You folks get so twisted lol.


Me - asking questions
TDSers - "TRAITOR!!!"

Me - skeptical about one sentence about nuclear docs from an "informant"
TDSers - "YOU ARE NOTHING BUT A CULT FOLLOWER!!!!"

Me - points out nonconsistency
TDSers "WHY DO YOU SUPPORT THIS TRAITOR!!!!?"

been the same shit over and over since the big pussy grab.

[Elizondo]

At least I don’t worship a traitor.

Lemme guess…”lol k” or “ok groomer”

How about your side man? How can you defend this?

lol you're just projecting

You idiots are literally shilling for Nazis. You're a disgrace.

Yesterday DOJ officials were on record with Newsweek finger pointing at the FBI saying "DERR We had nuttin do wit dis DERR"

Today that little pussy weasel Garland is 45 minutes late for a 5 min press conference where he says he approved it. He looked like he was peeing his pants at the podium. Meanwhile Biden officials are playing dumb like they had no idea any of this was going to happen and Brandon goes on vacation with his crackhead whore mongering degenerate son to go hide like a coward.

Biden's justice department and FBI just raided a former PRESIDENT'S HOUSE and he doesn't have the balls to stand before the public and explain himself and you support that?

This entire raid was nothing but a political hit job. It's what you leftist always do in any country where you've ever had power. You abuse law enforcement institutions to intimidate the public. You investigate people looking for crimes and that's exactly what is going on here. It's just a continuation of the Russia Hoax because you may be evil bastards but your leaders aren't blind and can read the polls.

[Skarne]

You folks get so twisted lol.


Me - asking questions
TDSers - "TRAITOR!!!"

Me - skeptical about one sentence about nuclear docs from an "informant"
TDSers - "YOU ARE NOTHING BUT A CULT FOLLOWER!!!!"

Me - points out nonconsistency
TDSers "WHY DO YOU SUPPORT THIS TRAITOR!!!!?"

been the same shit over and over since the big pussy grab.

I mean I didn’t see it that way on how our conversation was going. We just straight up disagree and believe different “facts”. You do you bro but I really think trump is the worst president we’ve ever had as a country. And I don’t understand after all this, why some people can’t see it. There are other candidates…what’s with the attachment to this guy. His history is wide and known and you would’ve laughed in his face during the apprentice days.

[Skarne]

lol you're just projecting

You idiots are literally shilling for Nazis. You're a disgrace.

Yesterday DOJ officials were on record with Newsweek finger pointing at the FBI saying "DERR We had nuttin do wit dis DERR"

Today that little pussy weasel Garland is 45 minutes late for a 5 min press conference where he says he approved it. He looked like he was peeing his pants at the podium. Meanwhile Biden officials are playing dumb like they had no idea any of this was going to happen and Brandon goes on vacation with his crackhead whore mongering degenerate son to go hide like a coward.

Biden's justice department and FBI just raided a former PRESIDENT'S HOUSE and he doesn't have the balls to stand before the public and explain himself and you support that?

This entire raid was nothing but a political hit job. It's what you leftist always do in any country where you've ever had power. You abuse law enforcement institutions to intimidate the public. You investigate people looking for crimes and that's exactly what is going on here. It's just a continuation of the Russia Hoax because you may be evil bastards but your leaders aren't blind and can read the polls.

Lol k

[azeth]

He's the most insane person I've ever had the displeasure of reading an opinion from.

[Elizondo]

He's the most insane person I've ever had the displeasure of reading an opinion from.

Sorry your Gestapo raid failing so badly

[robayon]

yeah I’m quoting myself

:rolleyes:

https://i.imgur.com/wORx11U.png

[Rethalis]

I mean I didn’t see it that way on how our conversation was going. We just straight up disagree and believe different “facts”. You do you bro but I really think trump is the worst president we’ve ever had as a country. And I don’t understand after all this, why some people can’t see it. There are other candidates…what’s with the attachment to this guy. His history is wide and known and you would’ve laughed in his face during the apprentice days.

They issued a subpoena for these documents in the spring and he was ducking them until the search warrant…are you really going to defend this man? Don’t you love our country dude? Think about this. Why did he take them in the first place?

Donald Trump is a traitor to America and it’s constitution. Go support another candidate for president please.

The above rhetoric is what i'm talking about.

You can blame the dem's rhetoric in 2012 for my move from independent to republican

I wrote in Rand Paul in '16. Voted for trump in 2020, was apathetic about it. When the entire media and democrats kept mobilizing against him and still have not seen anything really damning. I wanted to vote him not because of him but because the left frothed at the mouth so much.

Greatest president hell no. Worst president? Nah my vote goes to a tie between Woodrow Wilson and Andrew Jackson.

I blame the left for a lot of people gravitating to trump. Not so much trump himself.

I was hoping for Desantis in '24, looks like it's going to be trump instead because he will announce his candidacy because of this where I think he might have took a backseat this time around.

[Skarne]

The above rhetoric is what i'm talking about.

You can blame the dem's rhetoric in 2012 for my move from independent to republican

I wrote in Rand Paul in '16. Voted for trump in 2020, was apathetic about it. When the entire media and democrats kept mobilizing against him and still have not seen anything really damning. I wanted to vote him not because of him but because the left frothed at the mouth so much.

Greatest president hell no. Worst president? Nah my vote goes to a tie between Woodrow Wilson and Andrew Jackson.

I blame the left for a lot of people gravitating to trump. Not so much trump himself.

I was hoping for Desantis in '24, looks like it's going to be trump instead because he will announce his candidacy because of this where I think he might have took a backseat this time around.

Fair enough bro I just disagree. Maybe you’re right about Andrew Jackson though that guy sucked.

[Kaveh]

No reason to get this worked up. Iran and Russia are trading military tech. China has genocide camps

We have bigger fish to fry than which party wants freedom. Hint: neither do, but america still has a lot going for it and the hard work it’ll take to reform is possible. But first, a global conflict with actual shitheads is looming. ‘Vae victus

[azeth]

No reason to get this worked up. Iran and Russia are trading military tech. China has genocide camps

We have bigger fish to fry than which party wants freedom. Hint: neither do, but america still has a lot going for it and the hard work it’ll take to reform is possible. But first, a global conflict with actual shitheads is looming. ‘Vae victus

Id say " a lot going for it" is the understatement of the thread. There is the 1st world, then America. We're beyond civilization as perceived by non-Americans.

[Kaveh]

The above rhetoric is what i'm talking about.

You can blame the dem's rhetoric in 2012 for my move from independent to republican

I wrote in Rand Paul in '16. Voted for trump in 2020, was apathetic about it. When the entire media and democrats kept mobilizing against him and still have not seen anything really damning. I wanted to vote him not because of him but because the left frothed at the mouth so much.

Greatest president hell no. Worst president? Nah my vote goes to a tie between Woodrow Wilson and Andrew Jackson.

I blame the left for a lot of people gravitating to trump. Not so much trump himself.

I was hoping for Desantis in '24, looks like it's going to be trump instead because he will announce his candidacy because of this where I think he might have took a backseat this time around.

Youngkin is by far the best Republican candidate

[Rethalis]

Youngkin is by far the best Republican candidate

He is just kinda getting started. You think he would have the same following or are you just going off platform?

[robayon]

I blame the left for a lot of people gravitating to trump. Not so much trump himself.

I was hoping for Desantis in '24, looks like it's going to be trump instead because he will announce his candidacy because of this where I think he might have took a backseat this time around.rethalis to what he thinks is the left: look what you made me do. it is your fault I have to do this to you

[Kaveh]

I’m going off of lack of baggage. He hasn’t had to Peacock with abortion bans at Ejaculation or opening schools but burning libraries

He’s in a purple state where he’s been forced into centrism. He has the Republican popular issues like immigration, crime, and border security but none of the negatives like abortion due to that not being a real conversation in Virginia

DeSantis really increased his negatives these past couple of years. Independents still matter

I’m probably wrong, but I think trump loses to Biden or any dem. I think DeSantis narrowly wins in a close contest. Youngkin wins by 5-10%

That would be my guess if the election were held tomorrow. That’s just my center right sensibility though. I’m projecting a lot of what has turned me off to the current Republican Party

[azeth]

I’m going off of lack of baggage. He hasn’t had to Peacock with abortion bans at Ejaculation or opening schools but burning libraries

He’s in a purple state where he’s been forced into centrism. He has the Republican popular issues like immigration, crime, and border security but none of the negatives like abortion due to that not being a real conversation in Virginia

DeSantis really increased his negatives these past couple of years. Independents still matter

DeSantis so desperately needs the MAGA crew that idk if he could ever be centrist enough to secure independents.

[Rethalis]

rethalis to what he thinks is the left: look what you made me do. it is your fault I have to do this to you

4 years of investigation and obsession over fake evidence isn't exactly going to win me over as a voter. Sorry.

[Kaveh]

DeSantis so desperately needs the MAGA crew that idk if he could ever be centrist enough to secure independents.

Dems are unpopular and recent elections have been close. I think anyone without the baggage of trump wins on the GOP side, but I also think DeSantis should’ve just stayed where he was in 2020. No need to do this school or Disney shit

[Horza]

Ingraham: It’s time to defund the agencies that are targeting the American people. That’s what we’re going to be expecting of Congress when Republicans take over. (https://twitter.com/Acyn/status/1557922325076508672)

https://i.imgur.com/DhFeBNk.png

[robayon]

4 years of investigation and obsession over fake evidence isn't exactly going to win me over as a voter. Sorry.well the investigation was after he won the nomination, but okay, i guess i did the same thing when i voted for clinton and then diamond joe later on

not a liker of any of these people, but a stronger disliker of the alternatives

what a great system the two party one is.

[Botten]

lol you're just projecting

You idiots are literally shilling for Nazis. You're a disgrace.

Yesterday DOJ officials were on record with Newsweek finger pointing at the FBI saying "DERR We had nuttin do wit dis DERR"

Today that little pussy weasel Garland is 45 minutes late for a 5 min press conference where he says he approved it. He looked like he was peeing his pants at the podium. Meanwhile Biden officials are playing dumb like they had no idea any of this was going to happen and Brandon goes on vacation with his crackhead whore mongering degenerate son to go hide like a coward.

Biden's justice department and FBI just raided a former PRESIDENT'S HOUSE and he doesn't have the balls to stand before the public and explain himself and you support that?

This entire raid was nothing but a political hit job. It's what you leftist always do in any country where you've ever had power. You abuse law enforcement institutions to intimidate the public. You investigate people looking for crimes and that's exactly what is going on here. It's just a continuation of the Russia Hoax because you may be evil bastards but your leaders aren't blind and can read the polls.

Your MAGA loser of a fascist dictator was hiding classified nuclear documents.

Game over man.

You look like a bigger moron for drowning on the now very sunk movement.

The US MAGA Fail Whale went down and his followers too (that were barely keeping his fat bloated body a float).

Your captain mini strokes conned you and has no chance in 2024.

You honestly think any independent votes are going to be swayed to vote again for Trump? Ever? This isn't going to stop. More and more evidence.

And the only sucker is going to be you... as more and more laugh at you trying to protect this dumpster fire they call the MAGA movement.

Like the Tea Party movement. It is over! HA! :D Now go worship Dirty Santchez.

[Elizondo]

18400

Your MAGA loser of a fascist dictator was hiding classified nuclear documents.

Game over man.

You look like a bigger moron for drowning on the now very sunk movement.

The US MAGA Fail Whale went down and his followers too (that were barely keeping his fat bloated body a float).

Your captain mini strokes conned you and has no chance in 2024.

You honestly think any independent votes are going to be swayed to vote again for Trump? Ever? This isn't going to stop. More and more evidence.

And the only sucker is going to be you... as more and more laugh at you trying to protect this dumpster fire they call the MAGA movement.

Like the Tea Party movement. It is over! HA! :D

lol k

[Kaveh]

Two party system delivers job security to the disabled (Greg Abbott)

Low blow, but watching Beto campaign and the people who like him insist he has a chance is humorous to me

[Rethalis]

well the investigation was after he won the nomination, but okay, i guess i did the same thing when i voted for clinton and then diamond joe later on

not a liker of any of these people, but a stronger disliker of the alternatives

what a great system the two party one is.

The spying wasn't. However I am not convinced that doing something like Israel is any good, tons more gridlock there even though I like gridlock what they have is probably too much.

One party system, we all know how that turns out historically. Regardless of how much hate each party gets, they both need each other. The gridlock used to be a good thing and then something changed during the bush years and exploded in the Obama years when both sides just decided to agree on everything and put every constituence wants on every bill and spend like crazy.

I do like the idea of ranked choice voting.

[Rethalis]

Two party system delivers job security to the disabled (Greg Abbott)

Low blow, but watching Beto campaign and the people who like him insist he has a chance is humorous to me

Lol! I totally forgot he was going for governor.

[Kaveh]

He’ll be governor of California one day, but statewide office in Texas? Nah

[Rethalis]

I’m going off of lack of baggage. He hasn’t had to Peacock with abortion bans at Ejaculation or opening schools but burning libraries

He’s in a purple state where he’s been forced into centrism. He has the Republican popular issues like immigration, crime, and border security but none of the negatives like abortion due to that not being a real conversation in Virginia

DeSantis really increased his negatives these past couple of years. Independents still matter

I’m probably wrong, but I think trump loses to Biden or any dem. I think DeSantis narrowly wins in a close contest. Youngkin wins by 5-10%

That would be my guess if the election were held tomorrow. That’s just my center right sensibility though. I’m projecting a lot of what has turned me off to the current Republican Party

yea I have not seen any skeletons come out of his (youngkin's) closest yet. Parents is always a winning platform.

[Botten]

The spying wasn't. However I am not convinced that doing something like Israel is any good, tons more gridlock there even though I like gridlock what they have is probably too much.

One party system, we all know how that turns out historically. Regardless of how much hate each party gets, they both need each other. The gridlock used to be a good thing and then something changed during the bush years and exploded in the Obama years when both sides just decided to agree on everything and put every constituence wants on every bill and spend like crazy.

I do like the idea of ranked choice voting.

Probably that war he helped us get into. Where there weren't any weapons of mass destruction. And before that was Nixon so ...yeah

both sides aren't the same; stop asking for another do over.

[Rethalis]

Probably that war he helped us get into. Where there weren't any weapons of mass destruction. And before that was Nixon so ...yeah

both sides aren't the same; stop asking for another do over.

who are you talking to and what are you talking about?

[Horza]

The spying wasn't. However I am not convinced that doing something like Israel is any good, tons more gridlock there even though I like gridlock what they have is probably too much.

One party system, we all know how that turns out historically. Regardless of how much hate each party gets, they both need each other. The gridlock used to be a good thing and then something changed during the bush years and exploded in the Obama years when both sides just decided to agree on everything and put every constituence wants on every bill and spend like crazy.

I do like the idea of ranked choice voting.

If the GOP decide they want to sink with Trump, you'd see the neoliberal and progressive factions of the Democratic Party split so fast.

[Rethalis]

If the GOP decide they want to sink with Trump, you'd see the neoliberal and progressive factions of the Democratic Party split so fast.

Yea they buried bearnie. Just like the neo-cons did to the teaparty wing.

[Botten]

who are you talking to and what are you talking about?

Quoting you now allows you to play stupid, apparently.

We don't need the republican party. Be much better off if the democrats win big and then factions of greener parties replace the GOP.

Saying something happened to the two parties is bull. GOP is corrupt to their core value; greed.

What next ... are you going to say, "the Dems are greedy too. Wahhhh stop saying they are different. They are the same."

no more do overs. F the GOP

[Rethalis]

Quoting you now allows you to play stupid, apparently.

We don't need the republican party. Be much better off if the democrats win big and then factions of greener parties replace the GOP.

Saying something happened to the two parties is bull. GOP is corrupt to their core value; greed.

What next ... are you going to say, "the Dems are greedy too. Wahhhh stop saying they are different. They are the same."

no more do overs.

lol, k.

[booter]

trump loyalists starting to look even more unhinged, somehow :o

[Horza]

Do they all say "lol k" now when confronted with the ridiculousness of their statements or maybe I'm too busy laughing at the trailer trash yelling it's time to water the tree of liberty because a reality television grifter is getting indicted.

[Kaveh]

This is why we got rid of kings

Loyalty to politicians is dangerous. I’m reading about gaius marius. Him and Sulla were some evil mother fuckers

[Elizondo]

Garland at his pee conference today "I will not stand by silently ..."

Takes not questions

lol

[Reiwa]

Greatest president hell no. Worst president? Nah my vote goes to a tie between Woodrow Wilson and Andrew Jackson.

Are you sure he's the worst?

https://i.imgur.com/JAQaIJT.jpg

[robayon]

You can drive from my house only a few miles and see where the Cherokee & Creek got started on the Trail of Tears

No, I do not care for Andrew Jackson even if he was right about some stuff, he was wrong about the important stuff

[Kaveh]

You can drive from my house only a few miles and see where the Cherokee & Creek got started on the Trail of Tears

No, I do not care for Andrew Jackson even if he was right about some stuff, he was wrong about the important stuff

The Arabs burned my country and civilization to the ground

You ready to mount up? We’re recruiting

[Reiwa]

You can drive from my house only a few miles and see where the Cherokee & Creek got started on the Trail of Tears

No, I do not care for Andrew Jackson even if he was right about some stuff, he was wrong about the important stuff

You are going to start a BIPOC civil war with your complaining. :p

[Kaveh]

<Evocati>

A new guild of autistic descendants of fallen empires. Must be Roman, Greek, Anglo Saxon, persian, or Armenian. Lead paint consumption in youth a plus

If Turkish arab or Kurdish you’re KOS

[robayon]

You are going to start a BIPOC civil war with your complaining. :pThe BIPOC civil war is not gonna get started by the posts of a stupid, drunk white boy


The Arabs burned my country and civilization to the ground

You ready to mount up? We’re recruitingI dunno I feel like I saw you say something explicitly anti-Irish at one point and guess what that's like my entire ancestry

[Rethalis]

Are you sure he's the worst?

https://i.imgur.com/JAQaIJT.jpg

well I flip flop between wilson and jackson for slightly different reasons so not really. Its always terrible to judge past people with modern morals but trying to play down the way jackson instituted mass genocide especially the women and children will put one at the top of the list for terrible president.

Wilson - confederacy apologist, income tax, klan apologist, An Actual white supremist, federal segregation, campaigned for more executive power led to the rapid expansion during FDR

[Reiwa]

So anyway, the nuke-u-lar secrets thing, I don't buy it but anyway:

If convicted of whatever, Tromp has an absolute right to choose the method of his execution. (https://www.supremecourt.gov/opinions/21pdf/21-439_bp7c.pdf) (2022)

Crucifixion is on the table boys!

[robayon]

crucified? there is a mcdonald's at 1528 broadway

[robayon]

https://i.imgur.com/TDnwr2F.png

[Elizondo]

So anyway, the nuke-u-lar secrets thing, I don't buy it but anyway:

If convicted of whatever, Tromp has an absolute right to choose the method of his execution. (https://www.supremecourt.gov/opinions/21pdf/21-439_bp7c.pdf) (2022)

Crucifixion is on the table boys!

Obvious leak trying to change the narrative

Yea and they waited 19 months to go raid Melania's panties to get them

Geraldo found more stuff in Al Capone's vault

Real desperate. Trump just was gonna launch nukes while on the shitter or something. More Russia Hoax witch hunt nonsense

[Jibartik]

https://i.imgur.com/TDnwr2F.png

https://i.imgur.com/Ceu2Blf.gif

[Kaveh]

Emperor diabeticus ran afoul of the praetorian guard. Never ends well

[Horza]

Glad to see a Jib post since the guy who tried to breach the FBI office in Ohio was shot dead by police.

[Jibartik]

lol

[TheBardo]

Garland at his pee conference today "I will not stand by silently ..."

Takes not questions

lol

Hey fuck nuts what’s your patriots.win user name? I want to laugh at more of your insane posts

[Skarne]

Eh chill everyone is entitled to their opinion.

Strange though. https://oversight.house.gov/sites/democrats.oversight.house.gov/files/Trump%20Saudi%20Nuclear%20Report%20-%202-19-2019

FBI looks for nuclear documents

After he hosts a Saudi backed golf tournament at lago? Hmm

[Skarne]

Glad to see a Jib post since the guy who tried to breach the FBI office in Ohio was shot dead by police.

Haha

[robayon]

Two billion buckaroos to Jared.

Remember a few weeks ago when conservatives were mad because Biden shook hands with MBS? They are pretty silent on that subject now.

Not that they care about their hypocrisy, only people center and leftward care about hypocrisy, but it also blows the whole Hunter Biden nonsense out of the water

Maybe, just maybe, there's a systemic problem in government :)

[MrSparkle001]

If he really had classified nuclear weapon documents then he's a fucking idiot.

But searching for and finding are two different things. Is it confirmed they found them? Or did they just have reason to believe maybe he had them there?

[robayon]

They're gonna have to unearth Ivana to confirm

Can't believe the creativity of the writers of the latest season of America, this is top shelf political drama

[Skarne]

If he really had classified nuclear weapon documents then he's a fucking idiot.

But searching for and finding are two different things. Is it confirmed they found them? Or did they just have reason to believe maybe he had them there?

We’ll see. I honestly hope he didn’t have them. I’d prefer to believe that it was just classified things of no major importance. If he really has/had nuclear documents it’s pretty upsetting.

[MrSparkle001]

We’ll see. I honestly hope he didn’t have them. I’d prefer to believe that it was just classified things of no major importance. If he really has/had nuclear documents it’s pretty upsetting.

I've read so far that it's for a violation of some law requiring the preservation of documents. It may be a fairly innocent, fairly harmless violation if it's just random documents he should have turned over to the archives.

We don't know yet.

I don't see how something like that would require an FBI raid though so I'm skeptical it's as innocent as a violation of that law.

[Skarne]

I've read so far that it's for a violation of some law requiring the preservation of documents. It may be a fairly innocent, fairly harmless violation if it's just random documents he should have turned over to the archives.

We don't know yet.

I don't see how something like that would require an FBI raid though so I'm skeptical it's as innocent as a violation of that law.

Well from what I’ve read it was a series of events that lead to the warrant.

He took a bunch of documents with him to lago he wasn’t supposed to have.

Issued subpoena and cooperated with it

FBI takes 15 boxes

FBI issued another subpoena for additional documents they learned he had (nuclear)

Government official visits lago, meets with trump and his team personally where they say they’ll give back the documents

He ducks them and strings them along on a maybe I’ll give back maybe I won’t type thing

Search warrant approved issued and carried out.

This all took place from January to August
Those are the events as I understand them

[azeth]

Interesting to me is what people are perceiving to be the contents of classified nuclear documents. I keep reading statements like oh they were probably nuclear codes that aren't even active anymore etc etc

Is it so hard to understand that they also could have had something to do with the US nuclear strategy based on our enemies actions? It could have been as devastating to our national security as that, like our full-on plan if China were to invade taiwan, if Russia were to launch a nuclear attack etc

[Homesteaded]

If you think this was legitimate you're an orc pawn. 100% political theatre.

[Domo]

https://i.imgur.com/I3FPikv.jpg

I dont fully understand the whole situation but i love the memes about it :)

[robayon]

If you think this was legitimate you're an orc pawn. 100% political theatre.Today I learned that the entire DOJ and FBI and about 65% of government employees, as well as about 100 million Americans, are orc pawns

:rolleyes:

Yeah you're not exactly a great knower of stuff, buddy. Sorry that reality isn't going your way, though.

[Skarne]

If you think this was legitimate you're an orc pawn. 100% political theatre.

Idk man I think you have a very narrow world view and are indoctrinated through Christianity and Fox News. If you look at this entire situation logically without any conspiracy thoughts it's pretty obvious the orange man broke the law. If literally anyone else did the things he did they'd be in prison.

[Jibartik]

Today I learned that the entire DOJ and FBI and about 65% of government employees, as well as about 100 million Americans, are orc pawns

:rolleyes:

Yeah you're not exactly a great knower of stuff, buddy. Sorry that reality isn't going your way, though.

you used to be an anarchist :(

[robayon]

you used to be an anarchist :(Don't mistake my sense of humor as support for the FBI and DOJ

Actions have consequences. Any anarchist can tell you that. If I had my way, there'd not only be no president, there'd be no nuclear weapons for a person with clearance to spill the beans about

[Reiwa]

Absolute immunity still go brrr unless intent to harm or defraud the United States can be proven?

Also does he not have a copy machine? What is this?

[azeth]

Go ahead and picture the Fox news headline if Barack Obama was found with basically stolen top secret nuclear information in his house

[MrSparkle001]

Go ahead and picture the Fox news headline if Barack Obama was found with basically stolen top secret nuclear information in his house

But was stolen top secret nuclear information found in his house? Or did someone say maybe there was and it led to a search warrant?

Because if it turns out there is no top secret classified nuclear documents there's going to be a lot to answer for.

Wait, oh shit. This is from 2019.

https://www.americanoversight.org/investigating-the-trump-administrations-efforts-to-sell-nuclear-technology-to-saudi-arabia

Not looking good. Need confirmation so I won't be jumping to conclusions right now but not looking good.

[azeth]

But was stolen top secret nuclear information found in his house? Or did someone say maybe there was and it led to a search warrant?

Because if it turns out there is no top secret classified nuclear documents there's going to be a lot to answer for.

Well literally every news reporting agency and journalist is saying thats the case right now. Which may be entirely a lie, but there is 0 evidence against it right now. Trump's team isn't even claiming its not true. In fact theyre claiming its factual by saying it was planted.

[Kaveh]

Absolute immunity still go brrr unless intent to harm or defraud the United States can be proven?

Also does he not have a copy machine? What is this?

Shoulda given merrick garland his SCOTUS seat

*laughs like Charlie murphy in chappelle’s show*

[Reiwa]

Go ahead and picture the Fox news headline if Barack Obama was found with basically stolen top secret nuclear information in his house

Would it be stealing if the documents were transferred to him by him in his capacity as POTUS - the highest classification authority?

I'm not saying that right. :(

[Skarne]

Would it be stealing if the documents were transferred to him by him in his capacity as POTUS - the highest classification authority?

I'm not saying that right. :(

No- because they are (supposedly) nuclear documents. The Department of Energy is the only office that has the power to declassify nuclear documents.

[Reiwa]

No- because they are (supposedly) nuclear documents. The Department of Energy is the only office that has the power to declassify nuclear documents.

/glowers at you dubiously.

[Skarne]

/glowers at you dubiously.

It's true look it up

[Jibartik]

As someone who believes in aliens, I just want to be like, when you hear that someone seen an alien (found nuke docs) dont get like, super excited until you've seen the alien (nuke docs)

[Reiwa]

It's true look it up

The Department is headed by the Secretary of Energy, who reports directly to the president of the United States

[Skarne]

The Department is headed by the Secretary of Energy, who reports directly to the president of the United States

I don't see your point. The policy is still in place. The Atomic Energy Act. Everyone covering the story claims the documents are still listed as classified, so...

[Skarne]

As someone who believes in aliens, I just want to be like, when you hear that someone seen an alien (found nuke docs) dont get like, super excited until you've seen the alien (nuke docs)

I can neither confirm nor deny the existence of awiens so I don't get excited when someone says they've seen or been contacted by awiens.

[Reiwa]

I don't see your point. The policy is still in place.

shz8OzPmHfw

[Skarne]

shz8OzPmHfw

Haha okay I get what you're saying. If he declassified them fair enough, but nobody is reporting that these documents have been de-classified. Quite the opposite. Which is concerning because he just had a golf tournament backed by the Saudis on his estate.

In 2016 he was very clear and concise that the Saudi's were very involved in 9/11.

Then at his golf tournament, completely does an about-face and says he has no idea who did 9/11.

I just don't understand why this man is idolized to this degree. There are so many people with less baggage in the GOP that would possibly be a great presidential candidate. It's sad what's going on here in America.

[Reiwa]

Haha okay I get what you're saying. If he declassified them fair enough, but nobody is reporting that these documents have been de-classified. Quite the opposite. Which is concerning because he just had a golf tournament backed by the Saudis on his estate.

In 2016 he was very clear and concise that the Saudi's were very involved in 9/11.

Then at his golf tournament, completely does an about-face and says he has no idea who did 9/11.

I just don't understand why this man is idolized to this degree. There are so many people with less baggage in the GOP that would possibly be a great presidential candidate. It's sad what's going on here in America.

It's just a cantrip, I don't care for the orange cheetoh man myself. :)

[Skarne]

It's just a cantrip, I don't care for the orange cheetoh man myself. :)

Me either. I don’t want it to be true though. I honestly hope it’s all just conjecture because that is a security risk for all Americans.

[Jibartik]

Don't worry this will go down like the first two impeachments and the jan 6 thingy.

As for your security, throw that idea out the window no one is above the law.

[Skarne]

As for your security, throw that idea out the window no one is above the law.

I hope you’re right

[robayon]

Don't worry this will go down like the first two impeachments and the jan 6 thingy.

As for your security, throw that idea out the window no one is above the law.Elliot Abrams and Oliver North are still free and presumably fairly wealthy

[Reiwa]

Salman Rushdie got got?

[Lune]

I was skeptical myself, but in case you needed confirmation from the man himself:

https://i.imgur.com/WNwwi3I.jpg

Trump saying it is a hoax has about 95% specificity for it being the truth

lol you're just projecting

You idiots are literally shilling for Nazis. You're a disgrace.

Yesterday DOJ officials were on record with Newsweek finger pointing at the FBI saying "DERR We had nuttin do wit dis DERR"

Today that little pussy weasel Garland is 45 minutes late for a 5 min press conference where he says he approved it. He looked like he was peeing his pants at the podium. Meanwhile Biden officials are playing dumb like they had no idea any of this was going to happen and Brandon goes on vacation with his crackhead whore mongering degenerate son to go hide like a coward.

Biden's justice department and FBI just raided a former PRESIDENT'S HOUSE and he doesn't have the balls to stand before the public and explain himself and you support that?

This entire raid was nothing but a political hit job. It's what you leftist always do in any country where you've ever had power. You abuse law enforcement institutions to intimidate the public. You investigate people looking for crimes and that's exactly what is going on here. It's just a continuation of the Russia Hoax because you may be evil bastards but your leaders aren't blind and can read the polls.

lmfao

"Keith loves me, he BRANDED me, how dare you evil libz try to hurt him!" - Branded sex slave

[robayon]

Salman Rushdie got got?Odds aren't great, stabbed in the neck at 75 yeesh.

[Reiwa]

Sorry FBI didn't got DKP (https://twitter.com/FreeBeacon/status/1557743645121339394)

[azeth]

Breaking on WSJ: FBI removed 11 sets of classified documents, including some marked as Top Secret, as well as information about the President of France, binders of photos, a handwritten note and an executive grant of clemency for Roger Stone.

[Reiwa]

Breaking on WSJ: FBI removed 11 sets of classified documents, including some marked as Top Secret, as well as information about the President of France, binders of photos, a handwritten note and an executive grant of clemency for Roger Stone.

The twitter machine says the boxes was in a "SCIF".

Which as I understand it is a small windowless room where air force majors cheat on their wives with their subordinates. Secret stuff.

[Horza]

Don't worry this will go down like the first two impeachments and the jan 6 thingy.

As for your security, throw that idea out the window no one is above the law.

Anyone else remember these paste eating dumbasses predicting a landslide victory for their obese messianic figure last election too?

[booter]

imagine ever supporting trump :o

yea this obese reality star who was actually a democrat his entire life, literally donated to bill clinton's campaign, is who i am now going to base my entire identity around. i will purchase flags and hats and shirts with this politician's name!

[Jibartik]

He's still going to win. Because of how much you guys turned him into an idol for the other side. If Im wrong it doesnt matter we're all gonna die in the man made climate crisis (space lasers) wars.

You're jsut turning America into nakatomi plaza.

[Skarne]

He's still going to win. Because of how much you guys turned him into an idol for the other side. If Im wrong it doesnt matter we're all gonna die in the man made climate crisis (space lasers) wars.

You're jsut turning America into nakatomi plaza.

If he ran, even against Biden, I don’t think he’d win.

[Jibartik]

If he ran, even against Biden, I don’t think he’d win.

It's gonna be a wild 2023

[Horza]

He's still going to win. Because of how much you guys turned him into an idol for the other side. If Im wrong it doesnt matter we're all gonna die in the man made climate crisis (space lasers) wars.

Of course he's going to beat Brandon by a historic margin, just like you said that he would the last time.

[Jibartik]

Well if it's any consolation I said Hillary would beat him by a large margin four years before that too.

Im not that graet at predicting election outcomes, but I am at the end of the world, so watch out!

pgmvE4bObqw

[Horza]

Brian Kilmeade, filling in for Tucker Carlson last night, shared a clearly fake, photoshopped image of the judge involved in approving the Mar-a-Lago warrant and Ghislaine Maxwell, but at least they gave credit to what.i.meme.to.say. (https://twitter.com/atrupar/status/1557926941646282752)

[Reiwa]

imagine ever supporting trump :o

yea this obese reality star who was actually a democrat his entire life, literally donated to bill clinton's campaign, is who i am now going to base my entire identity around. i will purchase flags and hats and shirts with this politician's name!

Nobody likes Tromp but abuse of power is abuse of power. :(

[booter]

"President Barack Hussein Obama kept 33 million pages of documents, much of them classified," Trump said. "How many of them pertained to nuclear? Word is, lots!"

Asked whether Trump's statement appeared to confirm that nuclear documents were uncovered in the Mar-a-Lago raid, a former Justice Department official replied, "Sounds like it."

obama whataboutisms... looking kinda desperate

[Reiwa]

"President Barack Hussein Obama kept 33 million pages of documents, much of them classified," Trump said. "How many of them pertained to nuclear? Word is, lots!"

Asked whether Trump's statement appeared to confirm that nuclear documents were uncovered in the Mar-a-Lago raid, a former Justice Department official replied, "Sounds like it."

obama whataboutisms... looking kinda desperate

Desperate to assert the same rights as your predecessor? 🤔

[Shourty]

OH YEAH? Well..... watch this.
https://rumble.com/v1frf4z-defund-the-pronoun-police-teacher-goes-on-epic-rant-blasts-sniveling-pronou.html

[Horza]

Desperate to assert the same rights as your predecessor? 🤔

Don't contrarian your way into supporting the sale of our nuclear secrets to Prince Bonesaw.

[Jibartik]

If this is same thing hillary did how come we're locking up trump first?

[azeth]

Did you know if you stacked 33 million standard 8 1/2 x 11 pages the stack would reach 2.5 miles into the sky

[Kaveh]

Nobody likes Tromp but abuse of power is abuse of power. :(

LOL

[Kaveh]

Odds aren't great, stabbed in the neck at 75 yeesh.

Iran is really starting to piss me off

I want Biden to install me as shah in a coup

[Reiwa]

Don't contrarian your way into supporting the sale of our nuclear secrets to Prince Bonesaw.

but I like it. :o

[Skarne]

OH YEAH? Well..... watch this.
https://rumble.com/v1frf4z-defund-the-pronoun-police-teacher-goes-on-epic-rant-blasts-sniveling-pronou.html

I actually agree with her. That pronoun shit is just silly.

Like..if I see someone who’s trans, but don’t use their preferred pronoun and am corrected, fine I’ll call you whatever you prefer. But to get outraged about me not knowing just by looking is stupid AF.

I also believe a man transitioning into a woman shouldn’t be allowed to compete with biological females in women’s sports. Scientifically and logically it makes no sense for that to happen.

Anyways how’s your sex life

[azeth]

I actually agree with her. That pronoun shit is just silly.

Like..if I see someone who’s trans, but don’t use their preferred pronoun and am corrected, fine I’ll call you whatever you prefer. But to get outraged about me not knowing just by looking is stupid AF.

I also believe a man transitioning into a woman shouldn’t be allowed to compete with biological females in women’s sports. Scientifically and logically it makes no sense for that to happen.

^ all of this.

Not all of us democrats are complete retards

[Domo]

https://i.imgur.com/AaD0uUY.jpg

[cd288]

"President Barack Hussein Obama kept 33 million pages of documents, much of them classified," Trump said. "How many of them pertained to nuclear? Word is, lots!"

Asked whether Trump's statement appeared to confirm that nuclear documents were uncovered in the Mar-a-Lago raid, a former Justice Department official replied, "Sounds like it."

obama whataboutisms... looking kinda desperate

It’s also incorrect. I am not an Obama fan at all but this is just a stupid allegation. Obama took documents from the White House (none of which deal with classified nuclear information), but which are held at a federal facility by the National Archives until his presidential library is ready to store them.

[cd288]

If he really had classified nuclear weapon documents then he's a fucking idiot.

But searching for and finding are two different things. Is it confirmed they found them? Or did they just have reason to believe maybe he had them there?

The FBI literally requested that he give them to them and he refused. Hence why they had to go an get a subpoena. He’s literally on record refusing to give them the documents they asked for and basically spinning his wheels being like eh maybe I might give them to you eventually.

You think if the FBI says “give us these documents” and you go “I won’t give them to you right now. Maybe if you’re lucky I will give them to you sometime” that means you don’t have the documents? If you didn’t have them you would just say that. Cut the bs lol

[Skarne]

I really wish he didn’t do this. Our country’s secrets were in the hands of this man who just recently hosted a Saudi backed golf tournament with those same documents on the property. And he still has defenders, is riling up vulnerable people with baseless accusations, and has not condemned violence even once that I can recall.

[Domo]

https://i.imgur.com/nxJJGJ2.png

[Skarne]

Crickets from his supporters here.

[robayon]

On one hand it's Friday night, maybe they're out living their lives.

On the other I suspect they're glued to the teevee or youtube box while the "talking points" coalesce in the right wing media circles.

[Reiwa]

On one hand it's Friday night, maybe they're out living their lives.

On the other I suspect they're glued to the teevee or youtube box while the "talking points" coalesce in the right wing media circles.

They can only get the ex-sovereign because the new sovereign says they can. (https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2022/05/11/biden-executive-privilege-trump-white-house/)

:rolleyes:

[booter]

Crickets from his supporters here.

well they need to wait for the new spin/talking points to emerge first

the right has collectively evolved into one giant karen, all they do is complain and want to speak to the management instead of promoting actual ideas or policy. it's just culture war distraction bullshit, aka anti-woke anti-trans "groomer" nonsense. there is literally no platform that they run on other than obstruction and outrage.

[robayon]

well they need to wait for the new spin/talking points to emerge first

the right has collectively evolved into one giant karen, all they do is complain and want to speak to the management instead of promoting actual ideas or policy. it's just culture war distraction bullshit, aka anti-woke anti-trans "groomer" nonsense. there is literally no platform that they run on other than obstruction and outrage.https://i.imgur.com/k2wAgfY.jpeg

[Reiwa]

well they need to wait for the new spin/talking points to emerge first

the right has collectively evolved into one giant karen, all they do is complain and want to speak to the management instead of promoting actual ideas or policy. it's just culture war distraction bullshit, aka anti-woke anti-trans "groomer" nonsense. there is literally no platform that they run on other than obstruction and outrage.

idk that all sounds like standing athwart history yelling stop :eek:

[cd288]

well they need to wait for the new spin/talking points to emerge first

the right has collectively evolved into one giant karen, all they do is complain and want to speak to the management instead of promoting actual ideas or policy. it's just culture war distraction bullshit, aka anti-woke anti-trans "groomer" nonsense. there is literally no platform that they run on other than obstruction and outrage.

As someone on the right who doesn’t support any of that shit I take offense

[magnetaress]

Real first world problems.

Ricky Shiffer, 42, was fatally shot by police Thursday after leading officers on a chase that led to a six-hour standoff on a rural road, the Ohio State Highway Patrol said — an incident that rang alarm bells as threats of violence against the FBI from far-right factions have increased in recent days online.

Federal authorities said they had been trying to determine whether he had participated in the Jan. 6, 2021, breach of the U.S. Capitol after he posted on Twitter that “I was there” in reply to a photograph showing rioters scaling the building’s walls, a law enforcement official said.

The FBI also was looking into whether Shiffer appeared in a Facebook video of a pro-Trump rally on the evening of Jan. 5, 2021, on Black Lives Matter Plaza near the White House, the official said.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/gunman-in-fbi-attack-was-navy-veteran-who-had-served-on-submarine/ar-AA10BgOt?rc=1&ocid=winp1taskbar&cvid=a1c37c5782254f6fa07c5cd6f091a5d7

you iknow how many watchlists I am on?

this is how they assasinate ppl now

and that is MSN a left leaning pro globalism rag

The Navy veteran who tried to breach the FBI’s Cincinnati field office Thursday once handled highly classified material while posted on an attack submarine, but had been on the bureau’s radar for months for possible extremist behavior, authorities said Friday.

When your veterans are doing this ... especially the older ones with probably even mony and bennies... u know something is horrifically wrong

[Horza]

House votes 220-207 along party lines to pass the Democrats' tax policy, health care, and climate change bill. (https://twitter.com/CraigCaplan/status/1558207359918407680)

[robayon]

As someone on the right who doesn’t support any of that shit I take offenseEither my sarcasm detector is misaligned or you have missed an opportunity

[Ooloo]

Hey I hear there's a children's hospital in boston offering "gender affirming" hysterectomies for young girls!

What the fuck is wrong with these lunatics? Seriously. Like, that is soooooo much more fucked up than literally anything anyone on the right is proposing, it's not even remotely close. How can anyone still support this shit? I might become a democrat again if there was even a single prominent dem willing to oppose this barbaric insanity, but if the only people opposing it are on the right sorry guys I'm going with them. Dear lord.

[Skarne]

Hey I hear there's a children's hospital in boston offering "gender affirming" hysterectomies for young girls!

What the fuck is wrong with these lunatics? Seriously. Like, that is soooooo much more fucked up than literally anything anyone on the right is proposing, it's not even remotely close. How can anyone still support this shit? I might become a democrat again if there was even a single prominent dem willing to oppose this barbaric insanity, but if the only people opposing it are on the right sorry guys I'm going with them. Dear lord.

Sorry you’re upset.

[Ooloo]

Sorry you’re upset.

Sorry you're apparently cool with removing young girls uteruses and sterilizing them for life before they're old enough to consent to getting a tattoo, you creepy weirdo. Seek help.

[Kaveh]

Hey I hear there's a children's hospital in boston offering "gender affirming" hysterectomies for young girls!

What the fuck is wrong with these lunatics? Seriously. Like, that is soooooo much more fucked up than literally anything anyone on the right is proposing, it's not even remotely close. How can anyone still support this shit? I might become a democrat again if there was even a single prominent dem willing to oppose this barbaric insanity, but if the only people opposing it are on the right sorry guys I'm going with them. Dear lord.

Way to respond to booter’s claim by willingly caricaturing yourself into exactly what he said about the right

[Skarne]

Sorry you're apparently cool with removing young girls uteruses and sterilizing them for life before they're old enough to consent to getting a tattoo, you creepy weirdo. Seek help.

Haha relax man, I was being serious. That’s the least of America’s worry right now anyway. And if that’s literally the only issue keeping you from abandoning today’s GOP, (it’s such a small percentage of Americans who are trans), you are falling for culture war bullshit.

[Kaveh]

well they need to wait for the new spin/talking points to emerge first

the right has collectively evolved into one giant karen, all they do is complain and want to speak to the management instead of promoting actual ideas or policy. it's just culture war distraction bullshit, aka anti-woke anti-trans "groomer" nonsense. there is literally no platform that they run on other than obstruction and outrage.

Someone has to pay taxes and buddy, we know it ain’t you

[cd288]

Haha relax man, I was being serious. That’s the least of America’s worry right now anyway. And if that’s literally the only issue keeping you from abandoning today’s GOP, (it’s such a small percentage of Americans who are trans), you are falling for culture war bullshit.

Yeah I’d agree with that. It’s certainly an issue that I think should be addressed but unfortunately we’re in the middle of dealing with a bit of a crisis in terms of people who like to claim fraud, hoax, etc etc with zero evidence and think it’s fine to try to stop free and fair elections from being certified by storming government buildings. Think we need to resolve that first and then we can turn our attention to other problems

[Skarne]

Yeah I’d agree with that. It’s certainly an issue that I think should be addressed but unfortunately we’re in the middle of dealing with a bit of a crisis in terms of people who like to claim fraud, hoax, etc etc with zero evidence and think it’s fine to try to stop free and fair elections from being certified by storming government buildings. Think we need to resolve that first and then we can turn our attention to other problems

Absolutely agree

[robayon]

Hey I hear there's a children's hospital in boston offering "gender affirming" hysterectomies for young girls!

What the fuck is wrong with these lunatics? Seriously. Like, that is soooooo much more fucked up than literally anything anyone on the right is proposing, it's not even remotely close. How can anyone still support this shit? I might become a democrat again if there was even a single prominent dem willing to oppose this barbaric insanity, but if the only people opposing it are on the right sorry guys I'm going with them. Dear lord.Nuclear weapons and this is the shit you're going on about

[Jibartik]

This is all political theater.

Nothing matters in the world but political entertainment. If a president did halfway decent job at being president trump would be forgotten about, but instead of rising above, we just dive as deep into the dark abyss as we can.

It'd be sad if I didnt want revelations to happen.

[Rethalis]

lol, government can't keep track of highly classified documents, needs to hire 87'000 more IRS agents to keep track of your money.

[cd288]

lol, government can't keep track of highly classified documents, needs to hire 87'000 more IRS agents to keep track of your money.

I think the point of this situation is that the government DOES keep track of classified documents and if you take them it’s going to tell you to give them back. And if you refuse it’s going to come get them.

[Kaveh]

lol, government can't keep track of highly classified documents, needs to hire 87'000 more IRS agents to keep track of your money.

Definitely need a better system to watch people’s money

But cheating on taxes should be automatic death penalty

[Rethalis]

I think the point of this situation is that the government DOES keep track of classified documents and if you take them it’s going to tell you to give them back. And if you refuse it’s going to come get them.

they totally could have grabbed them a couple of months ago when the agents were at the house.

[Reiwa]

Yeah I’d agree with that. It’s certainly an issue that I think should be addressed but unfortunately we’re in the middle of dealing with a bit of a crisis in terms of people who like to claim fraud, hoax, etc etc with zero evidence and think it’s fine to try to stop free and fair elections from being certified by storming government buildings. Think we need to resolve that first and then we can turn our attention to other problems

Is the election free and fair if half the nation fervently objects to the rules of the election?

What is the first violation of the social contract here?

[Kaveh]

The “rules aren’t fair after I’ve lost” is a really compelling argument

Don’t raise kids buddy, they’d walk all over you

[cd288]

they totally could have grabbed them a couple of months ago when the agents were at the house.

Well no that’s not exactly how the law works. But good job showing your ignorance.

The police can’t just walk into your house and take something. They have to get a warrant if you won’t give it to them voluntarily.

In this case, it’s a pretty dumb move to not give the FBI the documents when you literally know it’s illegal for you to have them and refuse to give them back. Totally stupid move on his part, could’ve avoided all of this and now instead he’s violated a law that he made a felony while he was in office lol

[cd288]

Is the election free and fair if half the nation fervently objects to the rules of the election?

What is the first violation of the social contract here?

What world are you living in where half of US citizens object to the election rules and think the election was fraudulent?

And if citizens object to rules of elections they can lobby congress to change the rules and hope their elected officials will amend the constitution to do so.

[Rethalis]

Well no that’s not exactly how the law works. But good job showing your ignorance.

The police can’t just walk into your house and take something. They have to get a warrant if you won’t give it to them voluntarily.

In this case, it’s a pretty dumb move to not give the FBI the documents when you literally know it’s illegal for you to have them and refuse to give them back. Totally stupid move on his part, could’ve avoided all of this and now instead he’s violated a law that he made a felony while he was in office lol

like I said before, somehow these totally super highly classified documents were not taken when they were already there taking boxes of documents in June. If they were important they should have been on the subpoena. So the government can't keep track of its own nuclear secrets or chose to leave them with trump.

[Reiwa]

The “rules aren’t fair after I’ve lost” is a really compelling argument

Don’t raise kids buddy, they’d walk all over you

They weren't fair before he lost either? Like he said repeatably?

[cd288]

like I said before, somehow these totally super highly classified documents were not taken when they were already there taking boxes of documents in June. If they were important they should have been on the subpoena. So the government can't keep track of its own nuclear secrets or chose to leave them with trump.

The subpoena and warrant was related to a different issue. Trump refused to give documents that weren’t on it (which is technically his legal right to do but like I said stupid when you know you have them illegally and all they have to do is go get another warrant related to those documents)

[Kaveh]

Then fix them when you control the government

Telling me you got robbed in Republican georgia is just being a lying sore loser. It’s not legitimate and worthy of things my toddlers used to say when they didn’t like their bed time

[cd288]

They weren't fair before he lost either? Like he said repeatably?

What rules do you think are unfair specifically?

[Reiwa]

What world are you living in where half of US citizens object to the election rules and think the election was fraudulent?

And if citizens object to rules of elections they can lobby congress to change the rules and hope their elected officials will amend the constitution to do so.

Congress cannot change state election rules you goddamn moron.

[Rethalis]

The subpoena and warrant was related to a different issue. Trump refused to give documents that weren’t on it (which is technically his legal right to do but like I said stupid when you know you have them illegally and all they have to do is go get another warrant related to those documents)

like totally different important documents? Because they came and took some documents from the subpeona back in june. You are telling me the nuclear documents did not make it on that subpeona?

[Reiwa]

What rules do you think are unfair specifically?

I don't think so, they think so. And we need a better argument for why they shouldn't.

[cd288]

Congress cannot change state election rules you goddamn moron.

There are federal rules of election as well. So who is the moron for bringing up a grievance and not specifying what you’re talking about?

[cd288]

I don't think so, they think so. And we need a better argument for why they shouldn't.

So lobby their state government to change the rules

[Kaveh]

Congress cannot change state election rules you goddamn moron.

He won in 2016 and lost in 2020 then cried foul

You buy his whining and are calling others morons? Regarding Republican Georgia and Arizona?

[Kaveh]

I don't think so, they think so. And we need a better argument for why they shouldn't.

No, delusional toddlers don’t get explanations. They get facts

[cd288]

like totally different important documents? Because they came and took some documents.

with respect to the documents in question they had already tried to use less intrusive and cooperative means to secure them (this is generally what happens when a president takes documents that the government thinks they shouldn’t, however usually the president gives them back immediately when asked). In this case Trump refused to give these specific documents in question resulting in the need for the warrant. The government had tried to go through the normal non instructive and less public approach to get documents back, which would’ve saved Trump the scandal and embarrassment. Can’t whine about it if you were given the chance to right the wrong quietly and you simply refused to do it.

All of this is his fault at this point.

[Reiwa]

There are federal rules of election as well. So who is the moron for bringing up a grievance and not specifying what you’re talking about?

No, there aren't, not Constitutionally. Fuck off retard.

[Kaveh]

Trump lost in 2020 dude, sorry you’re butthurt

Seems like he might go to prison too. Better call mommy

[Botten]

lol, government can't keep track of highly classified documents, needs to hire 87'000 more IRS agents to keep track of your money.

An Absolute 7D Uno move by Trump, declassified these as soon as the FBI planted them. Well played indeed.

I see you already are echoing what the rich corrupt republicans have told you to think. Make sure never to understand that the focus is on those making 400,000 or more and not paying their taxes.

Remember Soros, illegals, BLM, Transexuals in Sports and women’s rights are the True enemies of patriots!

Fing Moron GOPtards.

[Reiwa]

He won in 2016 and lost in 2020 then cried foul

You buy his whining and are calling others morons? Regarding Republican Georgia and Arizona?

No, delusional toddlers don’t get explanations. They get facts

Anything happen different in 2020 than 2016? Maybe sweeping changes to the election rules in most of the states to allow automatic vote by mail?

I mean, they said it was gonna be fake before it happened...maybe they had a good goddamn reason?

[Kaveh]

Anything happen different in 2020 than 2016? Maybe sweeping changes to the election rules in most of the states to allow automatic vote by mail?

I mean, they said it was gonna be fake before it happened...maybe they had a good goddamn reason?

He said it was fake before he won in 2016. Why would georgia and AZ Help Biden? Makes zero sense but that isnt the point. You guys just shit on the country to protect terrible candidates who can’t win independents because they sucked at governing. Didn’t work bud

If you buy any of this you need help

[Rethalis]

An Absolute 7D Uno move by Trump, declassified these as soon as the FBI planted them. Well played indeed.

I see you already are echoing what the rich corrupt republicans have told you to think. Make sure never to understand that the focus is on those making 400,000 or more and not paying their taxes.

Remember Soros, illegals, BLM, Transexuals in Sports and women’s rights are the True enemies of patriots!

Fing Moron GOPtards.

lol someone telling me that my money isn't funding bigger government.

[cd288]

No, there aren't, not Constitutionally. Fuck off retard.

Really? So what would you call the electoral college? What would you call the requirement that the VP certify the votes but not have any ability to overturn an election? Things like that are federal election rules…moron…

[Reiwa]

I am not saying election fraud, before you start bitching. The votes were valid.

The manner in which the votes were cast is my topic. Fraud is a retard angle.

[cd288]

Anything happen different in 2020 than 2016? Maybe sweeping changes to the election rules in most of the states to allow automatic vote by mail?

I mean, they said it was gonna be fake before it happened...maybe they had a good goddamn reason?

Interesting that after nearly two years no one has been able to provide any evidence of fraud

Also interesting that there’s this huge massive organized nationwide fraud effort yet not one person has ever leaked anything about it. Oh and yeah this huge massive nationwide fraud thing just happened to give republicans crucial seats in the senate…big brain stuff by the democrat fraudsters!

[cd288]

I am not saying election fraud, before you start bitching. The votes were valid.

The manner in which the votes were cast is my topic. Fraud is a retard angle.

But the only reason to care about that is because you think they are able to be cast fraudulently…

[Kaveh]

I am not saying election fraud, before you start bitching. The votes were valid.

The manner in which the votes were cast is my topic. Fraud is a retard angle.

I voted in person and saw Texas go as far blue as it ever had in recent memory, probably because everyone with teeth switched to Dem

If you’re not asserting fraud, then stop questioning the Loss. It was YUUUGE

[Rethalis]

with respect to the documents in question they had already tried to use less intrusive and cooperative means to secure them (this is generally what happens when a president takes documents that the government thinks they shouldn’t, however usually the president gives them back immediately when asked). In this case Trump refused to give these specific documents in question resulting in the need for the warrant. The government had tried to go through the normal non instructive and less public approach to get documents back, which would’ve saved Trump the scandal and embarrassment. Can’t whine about it if you were given the chance to right the wrong quietly and you simply refused to do it.

All of this is his fault at this point.

LOL

I have to keep my guns locked up in my safe or It's my fault if a robber steals them and uses them in a crime.

Its totally not the governments' fault when they forget about protected nuclear documents and lose them or let "criminals" keep them.

[Reiwa]

Really? So what would you call the electoral college? What would you call the requirement that the VP certify the votes but not have any ability to overturn an election? Things like that are federal election rules…moron…

The electoral college is the elector votes send by the individual states.

If Pence(as VP) couldn't do what Pence(as VP) didn't do, why was the recent Electoral Count Act necessary legislation?

[Reiwa]

But the only reason to care about that is because you think they are able to be cast fraudulently…

You realize we're about the kill each other over this shit right? Maybe not the elf boards, but the country at large?

It doesn't have to be fraud to be a baloney system.

[Kaveh]

LOL

I have to keep my guns locked up in my safe or It's my fault if a robber steals them and uses them in a crime.

Its totally not the governments' fault when they forget about protected nuclear documents and lose them or let "criminals" keep them.

Are you the president? You think he should be held to low standards or the highest possible?