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Elizondo
04-24-2022, 01:59 AM
Your the one supporting your very definition of a groomer in Donald Trump! Ha!

Bro you're so dumb you just admitted it's going on in classrooms by trying to smear Trump

Confirmed Botten dumbest poster ever in off Topic

Jibartik
04-24-2022, 02:06 AM
Literally right..

“I’m nervous, I’m nervous, I’m nervous”: A child’s reaction when Donald Trump walks into a classroom (https://qz.com/802521/im-nervous-im-nervous-im-nervous-a-childs-reaction-when-donald-trump-walks-into-a-classroom/)

Damn X-president Groomer

libtard kid

Horza
04-24-2022, 02:09 AM
Horza and Botten desperately babbling about Trump

Comedy ensues

Shame you morons let him hollow out the GOP and turn it into his cult of personality.

Botten
04-24-2022, 02:16 AM
Elizondo’s logic

Bro you're so dumb for arguing with someone who is dumber! Confirmed Botten dumbest poster ever in off Topic

Huh?

Elizondo
04-24-2022, 02:38 AM
Elizondo’s logic



Huh?

lol Sad Botten editing quotes

Horza and Botten clown show continues. Still won't denounce their friends grooming K-3 kids in school

Ooloo
04-24-2022, 09:08 AM
Ron Desantis doesn't think you should talk to 6 year olds about sex, even the straight kind! The "don't say straight" bill is HATEFUL TO GAYS

*Tearing up* "I... just... can't believe that these poor kids in florida won't be able to hear about how the teacher totally 69's his hot, heterosexual female wife every night! They are already bullied!!" -Jen Psaki
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Reiwa
04-24-2022, 09:40 AM
Some amount of instruction may be useful to protect against predation.

I don't know if that includes gender identity, but the dragon eating you is the dragon eating you.

starkind
04-24-2022, 09:43 AM
Yeah butt banning math books is definitely lol.

Jibartik
04-24-2022, 10:48 AM
From the party that defended cuties.

starkind
04-24-2022, 11:40 AM
Ya that was really dumb of liberals.

Today probably is dumb if you look at the news.

I can't help butt feel there's something wonderful just around the corner.

Endure the tribulation guys.

Ooloo
04-24-2022, 01:06 PM
That horrible witch who hosts some show on msnbc made some kind of absolutely ludicrous comparison between the florida parental rights in education bill (it's actual name- a minor detail for msm) and like... russian military tactics that dehumanize people, or some insane thing. This is the problem with 24\hr biased cable news; they can't ever, ever, ever, ever stray from the chosen narrative or admit fault, so they have to just double down even when they are 1000% wrong on an issue, and then my parents who watch nothing but msnbc say "welp, I guess this ron desantis guy really IS a secret russian nazi who wants to KILL KIDS!!!".

It's so absurd and laughable but unfortunately still far too influential in how people think about the world.

starkind
04-24-2022, 01:08 PM
Everyone is a Russian Z. Everyone Ooloo

Reiwa
04-24-2022, 01:19 PM
That horrible witch who hosts some show on msnbc made some kind of absolutely ludicrous comparison between the florida parental rights in education bill (it's actual name- a minor detail for msm) and like... russian military tactics that dehumanize people, or some insane thing. This is the problem with 24\hr biased cable news; they can't ever, ever, ever, ever stray from the chosen narrative or admit fault, so they have to just double down even when they are 1000% wrong on an issue, and then my parents who watch nothing but msnbc say "welp, I guess this ron desantis guy really IS a secret russian nazi who wants to KILL KIDS!!!".

It's so absurd and laughable but unfortunately still far too influential in how people think about the world.

she said it'll make suicides go up.

Trexller
04-24-2022, 01:28 PM
she said it'll make suicides go up.

anything to thin out the herd is fine by me

half or more of us have gotta go

we're a freak of nature, a species that evolved the skills to prevent its natural cullings

when it takes 10 minutes to travel 1 mile on an 8 lane highway, you might have a population problem.

Reiwa
04-24-2022, 01:36 PM
anything to thin out the herd is fine by me

half or more of us have gotta go

we're a freak of nature, a species that evolved the skills to prevent its natural cullings

when it takes 10 minutes to travel 1 mile on an 8 lane highway, you might have a population problem.

What do we say to the god of Death?

Horza
04-24-2022, 01:37 PM
anything to thin out the herd is fine by me

half or more of us have gotta go

we're a freak of nature, a species that evolved the skills to prevent its natural cullings

when it takes 10 minutes to travel 1 mile on an 8 lane highway, you might have a population problem.

You go first, I'm pretty sure a lot of you Trumptards will off themselves when he loses again.

Ooloo
04-24-2022, 01:40 PM
she said it'll make suicides go up.

Which is insane, not to mention incoherent since they are simultaneously claiming the bill is unnecessary since this never happens, yet if you stop this thing that never happens from happening, kids will kill themselves? What?

I remember being in elementary school. Literally nobody even remotely considered the idea that they might be the wrong gender, cause.... we were kids. Now some huge % of kids claim to "identify as lgbtq". Riiiiiight. Sure they do. Seriously who pays people to do this kind of research?

starkind
04-24-2022, 01:40 PM
Ya. If the next news story I see is idiots rioting and shooting eachother and burning shit over their genitalia or skin color again. Or the content of books.

I will not be surprised or try to care.

Not my problem. You have all the information you guys need to figure this shit out.

Reiwa
04-24-2022, 01:57 PM
Which is insane, not to mention incoherent since they are simultaneously claiming the bill is unnecessary since this never happens, yet if you stop this thing that never happens from happening, kids will kill themselves? What?

I remember being in elementary school. Literally nobody even remotely considered the idea that they might be the wrong gender, cause.... we were kids. Now some huge % of kids claim to "identify as lgbtq". Riiiiiight. Sure they do. Seriously who pays people to do this kind of research?

It does happen. Quite a lot. This isn't the part that's up for debate! :p

What to do about it is the political question.

Ooloo
04-24-2022, 02:48 PM
It does happen. Quite a lot. This isn't the part that's up for debate! :p

What to do about it is the political question.

What does, and according to who? Children experiencing "gender confusion"? Or the teaching of niche bougie sexual concepts to 8 year olds, who can easily be convinced of almost anything by the adults who are entrusted to guide them through reality?

unsunghero
04-24-2022, 03:10 PM
who can easily be convinced of almost anything by the adults who are entrusted to guide them through reality?

Like the idea that an obese man in a magical sled can squeeze down every chimney in the world in one night to bring them presents?

Kids suggestible? Nah

I’ve noticed co-workers manipulating children to an outcome they want (usually the healthiest one) in a behavioral health assessment and pointed it out to them. Things such as raising one’s tone and slightly nodding (providing the answer they are seeking non-verbally) when asking the kid an important question

It’s incredibly easy to manipulate a child

Reiwa
04-24-2022, 03:16 PM
What does, and according to who? Children experiencing "gender confusion"? Or the teaching of niche bougie sexual concepts to 8 year olds, who can easily be convinced of almost anything by the adults who are entrusted to guide them through reality?

The transgender suicide thing. That's what the curriculum was/is trying to fix, according to the TV lady.

starkind
04-24-2022, 04:06 PM
Transition shouldn't be a public or political issue. Sadly bad actors are making it one. And kids are caught helpless in a tug of war being pressured and indoctrinationated by both sides.

The solution is to keep the government out of all of this stuff and keep it private. And provide safety and support for the literal 0.01% who otherwise will wind up dead and disabled if forced to integrate into the shity system we have created. Or forced into conversion.

They aren't special. They are the walking dead in the world we have and the left cannot change that.

There's exceptions, however no amount of progressive policy will save trans lives in Florida. Because you cannot force corrupt sexist domineering toxic shitlords to care for someone fragile and vulnerable with special needs.

When the left pretends trans people are heroes and special and powerful and won't have hardship. They are lying and deceiving especially when they can't or won't do anything to help and leave them "half way" a target for predatory assholes and shitlords.

Fucking hell.

unsunghero
04-24-2022, 04:36 PM
The transgender suicide thing. That's what the curriculum was/is trying to fix, according to the TV lady.

The problem is using suicidality as leverage for compliance reinforces the wrong lesson

It teaches that people only pay attention to me and my needs when I threaten to kill myself, or when they suspect my safety is in jeopardy somehow

We’ll never see a reduction in suicidality under those circumstances. It’s always going to be much more difficult to get attention through a positive means than negative. We have to pay attention to a cry for help, but not offer the possibility as a reason for everyone else to behave a certain way

unsunghero
04-24-2022, 04:39 PM
It’s similar to that horrible show “13 reasons why” reinforced the idea of suicide to kids by glamorizing it

In the show kid completes suicide, and then everyone that wronged her felt bad about it and learned a lesson

That is NOT how life works, that is not how it always goes. And even if it did, that is far too high a price to pay for that lesson. It’s a horrible horrible message to send to kids, and got the criticism it deserved in spades

Ooloo
04-24-2022, 04:58 PM
Yeah the suicidality thing is a *really* ugly tactic that people with perverse incentives leverage. Meanwhile, 99.9% of *actual kids* probably have no idea wtf all these insane adults are arguing about.

Like seriously I'm sorry, but if somebody genuinely feels that they were "born as the wrong gender", that's something you're going to fully understand and be able to properly analyze only when you like leave home for the first time and travel and start to understand the world, at a bare minimum. Not when you're 8 and obsessed with trucks or whatever.

Teachers clutching their pearls over "attacks on educators" are just hilarious too. Like, okay great you're a teacher, but *what are you teaching*?? As if you can't ever be a bad teacher? That's what the entire argument and bill is over.

Reiwa
04-24-2022, 05:12 PM
Yeah the suicidality thing is a *really* ugly tactic that people with perverse incentives leverage. Meanwhile, 99.9% of *actual kids* probably have no idea wtf all these insane adults are arguing about.

Like seriously I'm sorry, but if somebody genuinely feels that they were "born as the wrong gender", that's something you're going to fully understand and be able to properly analyze only when you like leave home for the first time and travel and start to understand the world, at a bare minimum. Not when you're 8 and obsessed with trucks or whatever.

Teachers clutching their pearls over "attacks on educators" are just hilarious too. Like, okay great you're a teacher, but *what are you teaching*?? As if you can't ever be a bad teacher? That's what the entire argument and bill is over.

The idea is to lower the mortality rate for the cohort by destigmatizing gender identity early. It's good programming.

unsunghero
04-24-2022, 05:20 PM
The idea is to lower the mortality rate for the cohort by destigmatizing gender identity early. It's good programming.

It’s the complete opposite of good programming. It’s reinforcing that the control the person has of their environment (something we all want to some degree whether we understand and acknowledge it or not) is through their safety. Others are only concerned about my safety, therefore my safety is the best method to control what those others do and how they feel about me. If my safety isn’t in jeopardy, I have lost some of my control

It’s really bad programming

Reiwa
04-24-2022, 05:24 PM
It’s the complete opposite of good programming. It’s reinforcing that the control the person has of their environment (something we all want to some degree whether we understand and acknowledge it or not) is through their safety. Others are only concerned about my safety, therefore my safety is the best method to control what those others do and how they feel about me. If my safety isn’t in jeopardy, I have lost some of my control

It’s really bad programming

You're mistaking the argument we're having with the lesson being taught to students, dingus.

starkind
04-24-2022, 05:26 PM
It’s similar to that horrible show “13 reasons why” reinforced the idea of suicide to kids by glamorizing it

In the show kid completes suicide, and then everyone that wronged her felt bad about it and learned a lesson

That is NOT how life works, that is not how it always goes. And even if it did, that is far too high a price to pay for that lesson. It’s a horrible horrible message to send to kids, and got the criticism it deserved in spades
This ^^^^^^^^^^

unsunghero
04-24-2022, 05:30 PM
You're mistaking the argument we're having with the lesson being taught to students, dingus.

It doesn’t matter, it’s the sign of a bad mental health professional to make that their metric of progress

If the metric is “we want this negative outcome reduced” that is a bad approach. You are still focusing on the negative. You will always tend to get more of what you focus on, especially if the subject comes to believe that is your goal for them, and therefore the control they have in their lives

This concept can be expanded to other mental health issues

For example, it is a bad idea for someone to think “I want to not be anxious anymore”. The person is still focusing on their own anxiety. Instead it would be better to picture what life would look like when the anxiety is gone. What would the person be doing, how would they be feeling. Try to map a clear picture. This not only shifts the focus to a positive, but it indirectly fills the void left by negative

starkind
04-24-2022, 05:30 PM
Also if you can't guarantee safety don't push people to do and normalize dangerous things.

And teach them safety is their own responsibility no one else is going to change to make you feel good about yourself.

starkind
04-24-2022, 05:31 PM
It doesn’t matter, it’s the sign of a bad mental health professional to make that their metric of progress

If the metric is “we want this negative outcome reduced” that is a bad approach. You are still focusing on the negative. You will always tend to get more of what you focus on, especially if the subject comes to believe that is your goal for them, and therefore the control they have in their lives

This concept can be expanded to other mental health issues

For example, it is a bad idea for someone to think “I want to not be anxious anymore”. The person is still focusing on their own anxiety. Instead it would be better to picture what life would look like when the anxiety is gone. What would the person be doing, how would they be feeling. Try to map a clear picture. This not only shifts the focus to a positive, but it indirectly fills the void left by negative
Again another great post.

Ooloo
04-24-2022, 05:33 PM
The idea is to lower the mortality rate for the cohort by destigmatizing gender identity early. It's good programming.

Well like most bad ideas, it sounds great on paper. But in this specific case, it doesn't even stand up to the most basic interrogation which is why the actual verbiage always reads like a deepak chopra quote generator.

Wtf does "destigmatizing gender identity" even mean? Define it without using any of those words.

Reiwa
04-24-2022, 05:43 PM
It doesn’t matter, it’s the sign of a bad mental health professional to make that their metric of progress

If the metric is “we want this negative outcome reduced” that is a bad approach. You are still focusing on the negative. You will always tend to get more of what you focus on, especially if the subject comes to believe that is your goal for them, and therefore the control they have in their lives

This concept can be expanded to other mental health issues

For example, it is a bad idea for someone to think “I want to not be anxious anymore”. The person is still focusing on their own anxiety. Instead it would be better to picture what life would look like when the anxiety is gone. What would the person be doing, how would they be feeling. Try to map a clear picture. This not only shifts the focus to a positive, but it indirectly fills the void left by negative

Individual therapy experience may not apply directly to outcomes at scale.

Engineer. :p

Reiwa
04-24-2022, 05:45 PM
Well like most bad ideas, it sounds great on paper. But in this specific case, it doesn't even stand up to the most basic interrogation which is why the actual verbiage always reads like a deepak chopra quote generator.

Wtf does "destigmatizing gender identity" even mean? Define it without using any of those words.

Which word confused you? Try googling it instead of demanding I perform tricks for you.

Rethalis
04-24-2022, 05:46 PM
I'm pretty sure social science studies hit its peak in ancient greece. Anything in that field after antiquity sounds like whole bunch of delusional people making up shit about people they don't understand just to sell a book or something.

unsunghero
04-24-2022, 05:46 PM
Individual therapy experience may not apply directly to outcomes at scale.

Engineer. :p

Listen, the kids are getting wind of the fact that their suicidality has become some sort of progress metric

Maybe not the really little ones, but kids are sponges, and unfortunately the trans suicide rate is broadcast everywhere, on the internet, on tv, amongst peer groups, in behavioral health, all over the place

So we can’t pretend that these are some think tank meeting of the great psychological minds that kids have no concept of. They know. And that being used as a metric is dangerous, to the point where it may even be killing more kids than it is saving

Just my 0.02

GinnasP99
04-24-2022, 05:57 PM
It would seem that living a lie, abandoning reason, and separating yourself from God makes you unhappy. I wonder what doing the opposite does ?

Reiwa
04-24-2022, 05:58 PM
Listen, the kids are getting wind of the fact that their suicidality has become some sort of progress metric

Maybe not the really little ones, but kids are sponges, and unfortunately the trans suicide rate is broadcast everywhere, on the internet, on tv, amongst peer groups, in behavioral health, all over the place

So we can’t pretend that these are some think tank meeting of the great psychological minds that kids have no concept of. They know. And that being used as a metric is dangerous, to the point where it may even be killing more kids than it is saving

Just my 0.02

They'll be horrified to learn adults were secretly conspiring to keep them alive. Nations will fall.

unsunghero
04-24-2022, 06:01 PM
They'll be horrified to learn adults were secretly conspiring to keep them alive. Nations will fall.

No, and I can spell it out a million different ways but you aren’t seeming to grasp it, so I’m giving up after this…

When you have your politicians say on on the news, and your adults say on social media, that we need to acceptance to prevent lgbt suicide, you are actually reinforcing suicide to those that are vulnerable as a means of exerting control in their own lives. You are literally working against your goal, and indirectly killing people

So yes, if you want to keep failing on changing the trans suicide rate, continue to talk about it and use it as your metric

Reiwa
04-24-2022, 06:04 PM
When you have your politicians say on on the news, and your adults say on social media, that we need to acceptance to prevent lgbt suicide, you are actually reinforcing suicide to those that are vulnerable as a means of exerting control in their own lives. You are literally working against your goal, and indirectly killing people

How so? Show, not tell.

starkind
04-24-2022, 06:07 PM
Nations will fall. You cannot stop what was set in motion 100 years ago. And probably time and time again. This I can bare witness to.

You have choices still. You can use the fall of nations to seek power for yourself. Torment others. Or be kind and humble.

Have a sit down with Jesus next time you have the urge to control and dominate the wills of others. To lie. Cheat. Steal. Or to live in cowardly ways.

Burn this world for all it has done. No one deserves mercy. Yet you should consider forgiveness and generosity anyway. Even in the face of such wonton greed and manipulation as has been done to you.

Bare witness. Be honest. Have integrity. Endure.

Horza
04-24-2022, 06:08 PM
It would seem that living a lie, abandoning reason, and separating yourself from God makes you unhappy. I wonder what doing the opposite does ?

https://i.imgur.com/8V4MuJk.jpg

Ooloo
04-24-2022, 06:09 PM
Which word confused you? Try googling it instead of demanding I perform tricks for you.

Cool so you again plead the 5th okay lol

unsunghero
04-24-2022, 06:10 PM
How so? Show, not tell.

Once again, I’ve already explained it. Not going to do it a million different ways because you can’t grasp it

To my knowledge we have made no reduction on trans or even LBGT suicide rates, although statistics are often very easy to manipulate. People that don’t want to admit fault can continue to try to fall back on there being a lack of acceptance, but that doesn’t correlate to a culture where acceptance is better than has ever been

So rather than admit fault, these professionals will just continue to go down a dead end path that costs lives. I’m also not saying that the solution is no acceptance. I shouldn’t have to say this but you seem pretty slow to understand some things so I wouldn’t put it past you to claim I am. I’m saying the mistake is putting the focus on suicide

Reiwa
04-24-2022, 06:12 PM
Cool so you again plead the 5th okay lol

Here you go. (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fifth_Amendment_to_the_United_States_Constitution)

That was quite easy, sir.

Now you try!

Rethalis
04-24-2022, 06:14 PM
It would seem that living a lie, abandoning reason, and separating yourself from God makes you unhappy. I wonder what doing the opposite does ?

simple

Reiwa
04-24-2022, 06:14 PM
Once again, I’ve already explained it. Not going to do it a million different ways because you can’t grasp it

To my knowledge we have made no reduction on trans or even LBGT suicide rates, although statistics are often very easy to manipulate. People that don’t want to admit fault can continue to try to fall back on there being a lack of acceptance, but that doesn’t correlate to a culture where acceptance is better than has ever been

So rather than admit fault, these professionals will just continue to go down a dead end path that costs lives. I’m also not saying that the solution is no acceptance. I shouldn’t have to say this but you seem pretty slow to understand some things so I wouldn’t put it past you to claim I am. I’m saying the mistake is putting the focus on suicide

I would be very surprised if suicide was mentioned at all K-3, but you're the expert.

Ooloo
04-24-2022, 06:16 PM
How so? Show, not tell.

It's almost like when you constantly insist that somebody is predisposed to shatter like glass at the slightest criticism, they behave that way. Even when your intent was to defend them.

Which is why when it comes to this discussion I generally defer to the opinions of trans people who acknowledge that guys with cocks shouldn't swim against ladies, nor change in their locker rooms. Because they understand that even though they lead a hard life, so do other people, and you can't trample on the rights of one demographic to advance another's. That's like basic 'merica stuff.

Reiwa
04-24-2022, 06:19 PM
It's almost like when you constantly insist that somebody is predisposed to shatter like glass at the slightest criticism, they behave that way. Even when your intent was to defend them.

Which is why when it comes to this discussion I generally defer to the opinions of trans people who acknowledge that guys with cocks shouldn't swim against ladies, nor change in their locker rooms. Because they understand that even though they lead a hard life, so do other people, and you can't trample on the rights of one demographic to advance another's. That's like basic 'merica stuff.

I thought they were teaching stuff like "it's ok to be a boy or girl if that is how you feel".

Is that not it?

unsunghero
04-24-2022, 06:23 PM
I would be very surprised if suicide was mentioned at all K-3, but you're the expert.

You don’t have to be an expert to hear the Dem politicians, news pundits, and adults on social media CONSTANTLY saying that this or that fault of society is “costing trans kids lives”

It doesn’t take a genius kid to understand what they mean. By about age 8 I’ve heard kids have a concept of killing themselves. They may not understand the permanence of the action yet, but they understand the concept

If you want to retreat back to “I was only referring to very little kids who have no concept of suicide” as some sort of safe position to take, that’s fine. It’s still a terrible idea to saturate media and the internet with the concept that suicidality is the leverage ANY kid, whether trans or not, has for control of their environment and what the adults are doing

Maybe years down the road and over many kid deaths we’ll realize this. Maybe not. We still saturate the news with the faces and stories of serial killers and mass murders playing into their motivations, there’s a lot of lessons we haven’t learned due to our own stupidity or desire for clicks/money

Rethalis
04-24-2022, 06:23 PM
Once again, I’ve already explained it. Not going to do it a million different ways because you can’t grasp it

To my knowledge we have made no reduction on trans or even LBGT suicide rates, although statistics are often very easy to manipulate. People that don’t want to admit fault can continue to try to fall back on there being a lack of acceptance, but that doesn’t correlate to a culture where acceptance is better than has ever been

So rather than admit fault, these professionals will just continue to go down a dead end path that costs lives. I’m also not saying that the solution is no acceptance. I shouldn’t have to say this but you seem pretty slow to understand some things so I wouldn’t put it past you to claim I am. I’m saying the mistake is putting the focus on suicide

The mistake is not on suicide at all. The mistake is having a whole subset of society that wants to affirm a mental illness rather than treat it. Mentioning suicide rates are up with trans people is helping affirm that gender disphoria exists as a normal human condition.

Call me crazy, but I don't believe humanity all of sudden just started having a problem with figuring out who is male and female due to "natural process"

Get on some the transgender reddit forums, people there are actively seeking help. and all the responses are immidiate affirmation or some sort of "don't listen to that authority figure" Its really disturbing. Its a social contagion at all levels and needs to be stopped. None of this postmodern "truth" thinking out side of objective reality is helping anybody.

Reiwa
04-24-2022, 06:25 PM
If you want to retreat back to “I was only referring to very little kids who have no concept of suicide” as some sort of safe position to take, that’s fine.

Ok. *retreats back to the subject of the bill that is being discussed*

unsunghero
04-24-2022, 06:29 PM
Ok. *retreats back to the subject of the bill that is being discussed*

Weird, I thought u were implying that these little children, if not gender affirmed at a young age, would be susceptible to suicide later?

Want me to find the quote(s)?

“They'll be horrified to learn adults were secretly conspiring to keep them alive”

“The transgender suicide thing. That's what the curriculum was/is trying to fix, according to the TV lady”

Reiwa
04-24-2022, 06:34 PM
Weird, I thought u were implying that these little children, if not gender affirmed at a young age, would be susceptible to suicide later?

Want me to find the quote(s)?

“They'll be horrified to learn adults were secretly conspiring to keep them alive”

“The transgender suicide thing. That's what the curriculum was/is trying to fix, according to the TV lady”

The bill does bar gender affirmation at a young age.

unsunghero
04-24-2022, 06:36 PM
The bill does bar gender affirmation at a young age.

And you brought up suicide. Do you want the quotes again?

So why bring up suicide?

Reiwa
04-24-2022, 06:38 PM
And you brought up suicide. Do you want the quotes again?

So why bring up suicide?

Because that's the problem gender affirmation at a young age is meant to solve, according to me and maybe the lady from the TV.

Ooloo
04-24-2022, 06:42 PM
I mean ben shapiro already kind of settled the debate when it comes to people who are genuinely gender dysphoric like 8 years ago when he made the argument that you don't help a schizophrenic by affirming his belief that the radio is talking to him; that would actually be abusive and unethical. You empower him by helping him understand reality.

And that was referring to *adults*, nevermind the maleable minds of children who suddenly think "hey yeah i'm gender confused" because some insane tiktok girl pipes that phrase into their ears constantly, every day.

unsunghero
04-24-2022, 06:42 PM
Because that's the problem gender affirmation at a young age is meant to solve, according to me and maybe the lady from the TV.

Doesn’t sound like it’s a problem at all, because very little kids (under age 7) don’t kill themselves right?

So I guess there’s no need for gender affirmation at a very young age, because very young trans suicide doesn’t exist right?

No. Stop backing yourself into a corner, it’s unbecoming. You and the democrat public figures are talking about gender affirmation at a young age AND older ages as preventing children trans suicides at whatever ages they occur. I showed how that is a dangerous approach

We can leave it at that

Reiwa
04-24-2022, 06:46 PM
Doesn’t sound like it’s a problem at all, because very little kids (under age 7) don’t kill themselves right?

So I guess there’s no need for gender affirmation at a very young age, because very young trans suicide doesn’t exist right?

No. Stop backing yourself into a corner, it’s unbecoming. You and the democrat public figures are talking about gender affirmation at a young age AND older ages as preventing children trans suicides at whatever ages they occur. I showed how that is a dangerous approach

We can leave it at that

I did not think to consider an adult would have trouble understanding outcomes are often not immediate. Mea culpa.:)

unsunghero
04-24-2022, 06:49 PM
I did not think to consider an adult would have trouble understanding outcomes are often not immediate. Mea culpa.:)

“If you want to retreat back to “I was only referring to very little kids who have no concept of suicide” as some sort of safe position to take, that’s fine”

“Ok. *retreats back to the subject of the bill that is being discussed*”

Reiwa
04-24-2022, 06:51 PM
“If you want to retreat back to “I was only referring to very little kids who have no concept of suicide” as some sort of safe position to take, that’s fine”

“Ok. *retreats back to the subject of the bill that is being discussed*”

Yeah and?

unsunghero
04-24-2022, 06:55 PM
Yeah and?

I was talking about it being unhealthy as a metric for children of all ages

Not liking hearing this, you acted like you only wanted to talk about kids the age of the subject of the bill. Did you read the quote? I can re-paste the quote. Something like “Subject of the bill” was your words

Now you want to flip and say you want to discuss suicide prevention as a metric for all ages again. In which case I’ve already explained why that is a bad metric to use. A concept you can’t grasp

By all means stay woefully ignorant to the mistakes the professionals are making as the suicide rate does not change as acceptance continues to go up. Like I said, we make all kinds of other mistakes when it comes to human behavior and motivations already

Reiwa
04-24-2022, 07:01 PM
I was talking about it being unhealthy as a metric for children of all ages

Not liking hearing this, you acted like you only wanted to talk about kids the age of the subject of the bill. Did you read the quote? I can re-paste the quote. Something like “Subject of the bill” was your words

Now you want to flip and say you want to discuss suicide prevention as a metric for all ages again. In which case I’ve already explained why that is a bad metric to use. A concept you can’t grasp

By all means stay woefully ignorant to the mistakes the professionals are making as the suicide rate does not change as acceptance continues to go up. Like I said, we make all kinds of other mistakes when it comes to human behavior and motivations already

You're mad at me because you thought I meant the K-3 suicide rate?

Jibartik
04-24-2022, 07:03 PM
https://i.imgur.com/8V4MuJk.jpg

God bless Charles Manson and god bless (the rightful) president Trump

unsunghero
04-24-2022, 07:06 PM
You're mad at me because you thought I meant the K-3 suicide rate?

It’s really hard to try to figure out what you mean when you can’t seem to type more than a single vague sentence and an emoticon. Simplicity can be helpful to convey information clearly, but extreme simplicity coupled with being overly vague can hide a lack of understanding of the subject

I’ve already addressed why suicidality as a metric is a bad idea. You can’t grasp it. We’ll leave it as that. Mistakes will continue to be made on a National scale

starkind
04-24-2022, 07:08 PM
Young kids can attempt suicide although that's very rare. So we should consider that tho. Instead of ignoring it. Just because your lives are so perfect. Not through genderism or sexism tho.

Jibartik
04-24-2022, 07:09 PM
Hmm I wonder what causes more suicides, people not being down with trans or covid lockowns?

unsunghero
04-24-2022, 07:10 PM
Young kids can attempt suicide although that's very rare. So we should consider that tho. Instead of ignoring it. Just because your lives are so perfect. Not through genderism or sexism tho.

Yeah usually more accidentally. The youngest I’ve ever heard about completing is around age 8 (very rarely)although I’m sure there’s outliers they would be extremely rare

Reiwa
04-24-2022, 07:12 PM
It’s really hard to try to figure out what you mean when you can’t seem to type more than a single vague sentence and an emoticon. Simplicity can be helpful to convey information clearly, but extreme simplicity coupled with being overly vague can hide a lack of understanding of the subject

I’ve already addressed why suicidality as a metric is a bad idea. You can’t grasp it. We’ll leave it as that. Mistakes will continue to be made on a National scale

We've only been doing this for like 3 years and you're already declaring the project a failure.

https://i.imgur.com/VD7F8Up.png

unsunghero
04-24-2022, 07:14 PM
We've only been doing this for like 3 years and you're already declaring the project a failure.

https://i.imgur.com/VD7F8Up.png

Just give us more time and money. I’m sure it will all work out. And if it doesn’t, what’s the worst that can happen?

Jibartik
04-24-2022, 07:15 PM
Kids in America: Do you want to be a animal, girl or boy?

kids in Chnia:

https://i.imgur.com/HAJJ1aO.png

Reiwa
04-24-2022, 07:17 PM
Just give us more time and money. I’m sure it will all work out. And if it doesn’t, what’s the worst that can happen?

The lesson is never try (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NwVNuyfhF0Q)

starkind
04-24-2022, 07:22 PM
Kids in America: Do you want to be a animal, girl or boy?

kids in Chnia:

https://i.imgur.com/HAJJ1aO.png
Those boots have great tread.

Have to always look for the good in things man.

TheBardo
04-24-2022, 07:23 PM
I mean ben shapiro already kind of settled the debate


Lol, lmao

unsunghero
04-24-2022, 07:24 PM
The lesson is never try (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NwVNuyfhF0Q)

Oh was that what I was saying? Or was I saying to try a different way, with a different approach. That’s weird I don’t recall saying don’t try. In fact, I think the opposite. I think I specifically said I didn’t say “don’t accept” and that I wouldn’t put it past you to claim that I was

Want me to find the quote? It seems you really need reminders these days, let’s see the quote:

“I’m also not saying that the solution is no acceptance. I shouldn’t have to say this but you seem pretty slow to understand some things so I wouldn’t put it past you to claim I am”

God it’s like I’m psychic

Jibartik
04-24-2022, 07:25 PM
you don't help a schizophrenic by affirming his belief that the radio is talking to him

lol based

starkind
04-24-2022, 07:25 PM
Hmm I wonder what causes more suicides, people not being down with trans or covid lockowns?

People being weak. And having given control over to evil powers far greater and far more evil than they can possibly imagine.

That and lies.
Dishonesty.
Cowardice.

Jibartik
04-24-2022, 07:27 PM
What about that guy who was the best Rogue Pvper in wow? :(

Reiwa
04-24-2022, 07:28 PM
Oh was that what I was saying? Or was I saying to try a different way, with a different approach. That’s weird I don’t recall saying don’t try. In fact, I think the opposite. I think I specifically said I didn’t say “don’t accept” and that I wouldn’t put it past you to claim that I was

Want me to find the quote? It seems you really need reminders these days, let’s see the quote:

“I’m also not saying that the solution is no acceptance. I shouldn’t have to say this but you seem pretty slow to understand some things so I wouldn’t put it past you to claim I am”

God it’s like I’m psychic

How long had the K-3 gender identity curriculum been in practice before Ronny made it haram? And is that long enough to see results?

unsunghero
04-24-2022, 07:28 PM
lol based

This is where it gets controversial. Schizophrenia is a delusion, and it is treated with antipsychotic medication. Gender dysphoria is not a delusion. It is a belief. It CANNOT be corrected with antipsychotics

So approaches we take towards schizophrenia are not going to necessarily work with gender dysphoria

unsunghero
04-24-2022, 07:31 PM
How long had the K-3 gender identity curriculum been in practice before Ronny made it haram? And is that long enough to see results?

This is weird, because I could have sworn my entire premise was about suicidality being a bad progress metric? Are we going to move the goalposts a little?

Let’s fall back on some quotes:

“The problem is using suicidality as leverage for compliance reinforces the wrong lesson

It teaches that people only pay attention to me and my needs when I threaten to kill myself, or when they suspect my safety is in jeopardy somehow

We’ll never see a reduction in suicidality under those circumstances. It’s always going to be much more difficult to get attention through a positive means than negative. We have to pay attention to a cry for help, but not offer the possibility as a reason for everyone else to behave a certain way

Reiwa
04-24-2022, 07:31 PM
The metric thing I swear I had you pegged as a protect life above all things (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pikuach_nefesh) guy. :p

Jibartik
04-24-2022, 07:33 PM
When did we prove it cannot be corrected? Just curious. I'm not trying to be disrespectful and know any questions are super disrespectful.

unsunghero
04-24-2022, 07:34 PM
The metric thing I swear I had you pegged as a protect life above all things (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pikuach_nefesh) guy. :p

Exactly why I say it. Because it is reinforcing suicide threats and actions as a means to gain the attention of adults, and to control the environment around oneself

It’s just as bad as “13 reasons why” glamorizing it. It sends a terrible, dangerous message

Intentions are good, method is bad

Elizondo
04-24-2022, 07:34 PM
How long had the K-3 gender identity curriculum been in practice before Ronny made it haram? And is that long enough to see results?

We're talking about K-3 aged children here in public schools

They aren't lab rats

Reiwa
04-24-2022, 07:38 PM
We're talking about K-3 aged children here in public schools

They aren't lab rats

I heard different.

https://i.imgur.com/LnibO30.jpg

Reiwa
04-24-2022, 07:39 PM
Exactly why I say it. Because it is reinforcing suicide threats and actions as a means to gain the attention of adults, and to control the environment around oneself

It’s just as bad as “13 reasons why” glamorizing it. It sends a terrible, dangerous message

Intentions are good, method is bad

Well you don't tell the kids about suicide. Do you?

Jibartik
04-24-2022, 07:39 PM
I heard different.

https://i.imgur.com/LnibO30.jpg

ilPLmUzYl7E

unsunghero
04-24-2022, 07:43 PM
The better approach would be to take some mental health metrics, such as self-esteem, emotional and interpersonal intelligence development, etc, and say we are looking for an increase in these over [x] unit of time

Not a decrease in suicide

But here’s the kinda sick thing. “Suicide” is a provocative term. It grabs attention like most other words can’t. Sort of like “murder” does. And news and politicians want to be provocative. The question is, do they realize who they might be hurting in order to get their clicks, their money, their votes? Do they care?

Reiwa
04-24-2022, 07:44 PM
ilPLmUzYl7E

maybe skinner is a goof... :p

Swish
04-24-2022, 07:46 PM
I heard different.

https://i.imgur.com/1M70l0T.png

This is the original.

Rethalis
04-24-2022, 07:47 PM
This is where it gets controversial. Schizophrenia is a delusion, and it is treated with antipsychotic medication. Gender dysphoria is not a delusion. It is a belief. It CANNOT be corrected with antipsychotics

So approaches we take towards schizophrenia are not going to necessarily work with gender dysphoria

Its still a delusion and a disorder. DSM 5 just affirmed that gender and sex are separate. They are not separate, all this nonsense from the "intellectuals" is just that nonsense.

"The DSM-5 defines gender dysphoria in adolescents and adults as a marked incongruence between one’s experienced/expressed gender and their assigned gender, lasting at least 6 months, as manifested by at least two of the following:

A marked incongruence between one’s experienced/expressed gender and primary and/or secondary sex characteristics (or in young adolescents, the anticipated secondary sex characteristics)"

"Gender identity is also different from sexual orientation. Sexual orientation refers to the types of people towards which one is sexually attracted. People who are transgender have the same diversity of sexual orientations as people who are cisgender (people whose sex assigned at birth matches their gender identity)."

starkind
04-24-2022, 07:48 PM
The solution is for everyone to stop being dumb fucks and trying to make everyone conform to their worldviews. That won't happen though.

unsunghero
04-24-2022, 07:50 PM
Well you don't tell the kids about suicide. Do you?

Conferences about suicide prevention awareness always result in an increase in reports of suicidal thoughts in schools. This creates the chicken or the egg argument, did the conference suggest the outcome or did it encourage the kid already thinking it to come forward? Or was it a little of both

One thing that seems to imply discussion of suicide suggests it is a solution is the fact that a child completing suicide in a school will often set off a chain reaction of other suicides in that school. My state made national news when we had like 7 in a short period of time in a particular school or district

By focusing on the positive you are also preventing the negative. So I would always suggest to instead have that be the focus of the discussion, and only address the negative with the specific individual or pertains to after it has come up

Reiwa
04-24-2022, 07:50 PM
Its still a delusion and a disorder. DSM 5 just affirmed that gender and sex are separate. They are not separate, all this nonsense from the "intellectuals" is just that nonsense.

"The DSM-5 defines gender dysphoria in adolescents and adults as a marked incongruence between one’s experienced/expressed gender and their assigned gender, lasting at least 6 months, as manifested by at least two of the following:

A marked incongruence between one’s experienced/expressed gender and primary and/or secondary sex characteristics (or in young adolescents, the anticipated secondary sex characteristics)"

"Gender identity is also different from sexual orientation. Sexual orientation refers to the types of people towards which one is sexually attracted. People who are transgender have the same diversity of sexual orientations as people who are cisgender (people whose sex assigned at birth matches their gender identity)."

It does exist for some people, but [REDACTED BY CPC GENERAL SECRETARY JAYAPAL].

unsunghero
04-24-2022, 07:51 PM
Its still a delusion and a disorder. DSM 5 just affirmed that gender and sex are separate. They are not separate, all this nonsense from the "intellectuals" is just that nonsense.

"The DSM-5 defines gender dysphoria in adolescents and adults as a marked incongruence between one’s experienced/expressed gender and their assigned gender, lasting at least 6 months, as manifested by at least two of the following:

A marked incongruence between one’s experienced/expressed gender and primary and/or secondary sex characteristics (or in young adolescents, the anticipated secondary sex characteristics)"

"Gender identity is also different from sexual orientation. Sexual orientation refers to the types of people towards which one is sexually attracted. People who are transgender have the same diversity of sexual orientations as people who are cisgender (people whose sex assigned at birth matches their gender identity)."

Do you see “delusion” there? Incongruence =/= delusion

Jibartik
04-24-2022, 07:52 PM
I was sitting there watching a crow attack a bird on a tree. Over and over it swooped down and attacked this bird.

A while ago I watched a crow do the same thing, swooping and swopping at some other bird. Caw caw caw caw constantly caw caw caw caw.

Crows are smart birds. People love them. Caw caw caw. Swoop swoop attack attack.

I realized that these crows suck dick and shit and compared to other birds (of lesser intelligence) they not only look worse, but sound worse, and wont shtup, and attack everything, and display aggression, and are basically the worst example of the avian animal kingdom there is to offer.

Why.... because they're intelligent.

Ive had it with intelligent creatures, there is no value in them. They're just as much a evolved lump of cells as a bald eagle, but they look like shit, sound like shit, wont shut-up, and attack everything for no reason at all.

Eating the apple was the worst thing we could have done.

Rethalis
04-24-2022, 07:53 PM
Do you see “delusion” there? Incongruence =/= delusion

still a delusion. I'm not taking anything from the DSM five seriously when they affirm gender and sex are separate.

unsunghero
04-24-2022, 08:02 PM
I'm not taking anything from the DSM five seriously when they affirm gender and sex are separate.

Well you just used it to say it was a delusion. If you don’t want to take it seriously, don’t use it at all

I work in BH, and I do think there is a heavy political influence on the DSM specifically in regards to the trans community. But it was never categorized as a delusion, and never have antipsychotics been a documented effective treatment for it like they are for other diagnosis that involve delusions

Affirmation may very well not be the best approach, but as of yet a lot of other approaches have also failed

Horza
04-24-2022, 08:04 PM
I mean ben shapiro already kind of settled the debate

jWsx2iqO1ks

Rethalis
04-24-2022, 08:12 PM
Well you just used it to say it was a delusion. If you don’t want to take it seriously, don’t use it at all

I work in BH, and I do think there is a heavy political influence on the DSM specifically in regards to the trans community. But it was never categorized as a delusion, and never have antipsychotics been a documented effective treatment for it like they are for other diagnosis that involve delusions

Affirmation may very well not be the best approach, but as of yet a lot of other approaches have also failed

My point was more related to the fact that intellectuals in the social science fields have this really strong penchant for overcomplicating everything. Everything is so nuanced, blah blah blah. And then society looks to the experts as the ultimate authority figures.

Jibartik
04-24-2022, 08:16 PM
damn the dude can rap too?

unsunghero
04-24-2022, 08:26 PM
My point was more related to the fact that intellectuals in the social science fields have this really strong penchant for overcomplicating everything. Everything is so nuanced, blah blah blah. And then society looks to the experts as the ultimate authority figures.

In a way overcomplication might be a function of under-complication sometimes though as well. Not necessarily in regards to gender dysphoria, but other mental health issues

We are extremely complex organisms leading very complex lives. Yet people looking to fix their mental health issues still yearn for easy solution, the one thing that will solve their problem. Or the one reason they are the way they are. Life is almost never so simple. Chance are it’s a lot of little things

Our physical health and our mental health are strongly linked, but physical health and nutrition is outside the field of expertise of mental health professionals and vice-versa. This leaves people possibly needing to see different experts who aren’t talking to each other

Then we have the prevelance of dishonesty. In order for mental health treatment to work, it requires a person be completely honest throughout, and have the right approach, which is to better oneself. This is why counselors stress so strongly the idea of confidentiality. But regardless, there is still a huge amount of dishonesty from clients. Either to manipulate the system for some personal desired outcome, or to compensate for their own faults such as being a bad parent, or minimizing their substance abuse in an attempt to save face. If someone isn’t truthful, the entire system breaks down

unsunghero
04-24-2022, 09:15 PM
The other big problem with mental health when it comes to medications is the setup

A psychiatrist will diagnose and prescribe based on a single couple hour conversation with a patient. That is such a terrible setup. The psychiatrist has no idea of this person’s baseline behavior. Maybe they have a personality trait to catastrophize everything? Maybe they have extremely low emotional intelligence? A lot of these variables can’t be sus’ed out in a single conversation. In my job I almost always get just one interaction with clients due to my job function, so when co-workers ask me what I think the outcome will be or what is going on I can only answer with extremely limited confidence. Usually followed with “it depends on [x] and [y] and [z] which I suspect may be occurring but can’t confirm in one conversation, or other variables that could be playing a role but didn’t come up, either through intention or chance”

Now in an ideal world the psychiatrist will be following up monthly and also getting case notes from the person’s counselor if they have one. That’s if they have one, and in an ideal world. In many cases, a script for a brain-chemical altering medication is written and then almost no follow up is done. And a person takes it for potentially years

The setup used to be different. Psychiatrists used to do counseling before and simultaneously with meds. Now their time is too valuable I guess. But the separation is very bad

Kaveh
04-24-2022, 09:17 PM
Beatings cure everything but schizophrenia

starkind
04-24-2022, 11:05 PM
Conferences about suicide prevention awareness always result in an increase in reports of suicidal thoughts in schools. This creates the chicken or the egg argument, did the conference suggest the outcome or did it encourage the kid already thinking it to come forward? Or was it a little of both

One thing that seems to imply discussion of suicide suggests it is a solution is the fact that a child completing suicide in a school will often set off a chain reaction of other suicides in that school. My state made national news when we had like 7 in a short period of time in a particular school or district

By focusing on the positive you are also preventing the negative. So I would always suggest to instead have that be the focus of the discussion, and only address the negative with the specific individual or pertains to after it has come up
Or it's possible that the school and parents and community is really shitty and got even shittier. Especially since rich partisans are cockblocking cool and normal ppl at every turn.

So like... the reasons for those suicides never got addressed. I can tell you that is exactly the case in my hometown school and it's way worse now and DeSantis is a fuckwit.

Had I known then, when I was a kid. What I know now. I would have probably been on the news in a very bad way.

Like if I could magically tell the future. Get all my life experiences in one hit.

The only difference now is that I have already gone through several attempts. Already grown up. And I can handle the shitiness of the world better.

TLDR stop being such shitty selfish fucking pricks and maybe the suicide rate will go down if u even give a real shit. I know u sorta seem to. Granted that won't happen so carry on teach people how to achieve better outcomes. Not just mitigate suicides.

Gatordash
04-25-2022, 12:40 PM
Thoughts? (https://morningconsult.com/2022/04/25/joe-manchins-approach-paying-off/)

Sen. Joe Manchin (D-W.Va.) is among the most popular senators in the country after seeing his favorability skyrocket back home over the past year, according to an analysis of survey data released Monday.

Morning Consult found that, even as Manchin has faced backlash from progressives nationally, about 57 percent of West Virginia voters viewed him favorably in surveys conducted from January through March. His popularity jumped 17 points—more than any other senator—compared to the same period last year.

The poll found Manchin’s popularity particularly grew among independent and Republican voters in West Virginia, while it dropped among Democrats.

unsunghero
04-25-2022, 12:41 PM
Two lowlife migrants trafficking drugs trying to sneak over the border by crossing a river start to drown and a champion soldier dies (is missing, presumed drowned) trying to save them

What a fuckin waste of a good person, trying to save two lowlife cartel pieces of shit. But naw, our border is secure, everyone queues up at asylum stations, and nothing bad ever happens due to illegal crossing attempts

Jibartik
04-25-2022, 12:53 PM
Weather you want open borders or closed ones, the fact that we've had like a millions of people piled up on our boarders, all the kids in cages, they're drinking from toilets, concentration camps, separating children from parents, and now officers are literally dying just trying to manage the border..

The idea that we haven't built an organized space down there, to have order, and get people into this country in a timely, safe, fair and LEGAL fashion, really shows that the democrats have NO plans whatsoever to solve climate change, the pay gaps, student loans, racism, or anything else they get you suckers to vote for them with.

Reiwa
04-25-2022, 01:04 PM
they're drinking from toilets

This is the future anprims want. :p

unsunghero
04-25-2022, 01:13 PM
Weather you want open borders or closed ones, the fact that we've had like a millions of people piled up on our boarders, all the kids in cages, they're drinking from toilets, concentration camps, separating children from parents, and now officers are literally dying just trying to manage the border..

The idea that we haven't built an organized space down there, to have order, and get people into this country in a timely, safe, fair and LEGAL fashion, really shows that the democrats have NO plans whatsoever to solve climate change, the pay gaps, student loans, racism, or anything else they get you suckers to vote for them with.

There’s actually a growing number of Dem politicians saying it’s a bad idea to rescind title 42 without an infrastructure plan in place to handle the inevitable surge, which will tend to overwhelm small border towns. They stress that it could result in a humanitarian disaster

Others, hoping to get some virtue likes on the social media, say that some may suffer but it’s all for the Greater Good

Trexller
04-25-2022, 01:16 PM
usually when one nation is invaded by foreigners they send the fucking army

you dig in your troops and you shoot the mother fuckers low so they bleed out and die slowly.

the best thing democrats have to offer is just changing the name of this country to "Cuckistan"

Fuck them and fuck anyone who ever voted for a democrat in any election at any level

Reiwa
04-25-2022, 01:22 PM
There’s actually a growing number of Dem politicians saying it’s a bad idea to rescind title 42 without an infrastructure plan in place

Many traitors, on both sides. (https://www.cnn.com/2021/11/05/politics/infrastructure-bill-house-democrats-voted-no-republicans-voted-yes/index.html) :D

Jokes aside, is Title 42 rescinded yet? It seems made up until that happens.

e: Ok, May 23. I think that's sometime after today.

Jibartik
04-25-2022, 01:27 PM
usually when one nation is invaded by foreigners they send the fucking army

you dig in your troops and you shoot the mother fuckers low so they bleed out and die slowly.

the best thing democrats have to offer is just changing the name of this country to "Cuckistan"

Fuck them and fuck anyone who ever voted for a democrat in any election at any level

lmao oh man

OH man.

If I could make wishes, one wish Id make is that Putin just started sending 10s of millions of Russians across the border into ukraine in search of a better life.

unsunghero
04-25-2022, 01:41 PM
lmao oh man

OH man.

If I could make wishes, one wish Id make is that Putin just started sending 10s of millions of Russians across the border into ukraine in search of a better life.

Yea just send Russian civilians in by the hundreds of thousands and if Ukraine turns them away call them xenophobic. Might be a little more difficult now lol

Jibartik
04-25-2022, 01:43 PM
Yea just send Russian civilians in by the hundreds of thousands and if Ukraine turns them away call them xenophobic. Might be a little more difficult now lol

It'd be rad to spin it like, 'this is our land too, we the people, we belong here, russian in ethnicity, but ukranian in our hearts, let us in, why stop us, what harm do we do, we are russia, and we are ukraine, together as one, why do you oppress us??'

God I wish I was able to organize this.

unsunghero
04-25-2022, 01:58 PM
'this is our land too, we the people, we belong here, russian in ethnicity, but ukranian in our hearts, let us in, why stop us, what harm do we do, we are russia, and we are ukraine, together as one, why do you oppress us??'


The new progressive pro-immigration (out of Russia into Ukraine) Putin

Jibartik
04-25-2022, 02:04 PM
Imagine 2 million russians with those banners crossing the border pleading for understanding lol

Trexller
04-25-2022, 02:14 PM
Imagine 2 million russians with those banners crossing the border pleading for understanding lol

if the west grows some balls and sanctions russia hard enough to make a difference, then you will see mass migration out of russia

at which point the former USSR will adopt north korean migration policies and shoot anyone who tries to leave

if millions of people per year are desperately trying to enter your country, you're still kicking ass and taking names, regardless of whatever issues your country is dealing with.

if you have to threaten death, just to keep people in your country, then you suck at running a country.

Lookin' at you, Kim family.

Ooloo
04-25-2022, 02:19 PM
Hey remember now north korea is a totally free and open society! But that doesn't mean freedom from consequence wink wink! (I hate when libs say that about free expression)

Reiwa
04-25-2022, 02:19 PM
What means civil contempt? :confused:

Trexller
04-25-2022, 02:24 PM
What means civil contempt? :confused:

just another buzz phrase coined by alphabet people in order to describe problems that don't exist as an attempt to justify their mere consumption of oxygen.

Reiwa
04-25-2022, 02:30 PM
What means civil contempt? :confused:

and ordered Trump to be fined $10,000 per day until he complies.

Should Trump fail to pay the fine, he could be jailed

Oh I get it, it's a shakedown. (https://www.reuters.com/world/us/new-york-judge-hears-arguments-whether-hold-trump-contempt-2022-04-25/)

07G23zMGa4g

Ooloo
04-25-2022, 02:33 PM
Petty vindictive frivolous litigation is always a great look

Jibartik
04-25-2022, 02:53 PM
If you cant lock people up because of the constitution, put them into debt!

No change at all from the establishment, whichever party is in charge.

Gravydoo II
04-25-2022, 03:07 PM
Hey remember now north korea is a totally free and open society! But that doesn't mean freedom from consequence wink wink! (I hate when libs say that about free expression)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LHun86LXF7c&ab_channel=IndisputablewithDr.RashadRichey

He was legally allowed to say it.

He was legally allowed to slap the living fuck out of him, too.

Consequences. wink wink

Jibartik
04-25-2022, 03:13 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LHun86LXF7c&ab_channel=IndisputablewithDr.RashadRichey

He was legally allowed to say it.

He was legally allowed to slap the living fuck out of him, too.

Consequences. wink wink

E_KOV3WbooU

Gravydoo II
04-25-2022, 03:31 PM
Nope. Just a fool being slapped.

Reiwa
04-25-2022, 03:32 PM
He was legally allowed to slap the living fuck out of him, too.


Why do you think that?

Horza
04-25-2022, 03:38 PM
https://i.imgur.com/lvxXa79.jpg

Jibartik
04-25-2022, 03:51 PM
https://i.imgur.com/Ljdp3Vw.png

Ooloo
04-25-2022, 03:52 PM
https://i.imgur.com/lvxXa79.jpg

I saw this joke in a shoeonhead video like 2 months ago. Get with the times.

I admit that just the concept of snickers bars having a "dick vein" is pretty funny and true and now I don't wanna eat them

Horza
04-25-2022, 04:08 PM
Get with the times.

Tucker Carlson's naked, young men tanning their balls and candy phalluses hour only on Fox News :p

Jibartik
04-25-2022, 04:10 PM
If the end isn't nigh, this is one crappy world!

MrSparkle001
04-25-2022, 04:19 PM
I saw this joke in a shoeonhead video like 2 months ago. Get with the times.

I admit that just the concept of snickers bars having a "dick vein" is pretty funny and true and now I don't wanna eat them

I don't know who shoeonhead is so I googled him and it's a her. Is she even old enough to know what shoeonhead is from? https://knowyourmeme.com/memes/put-shoe-on-head. I was there, Gandalf. I was there 3,000 years ago when people were asking cam girls to put shoes on their heads.

Ooloo
04-25-2022, 04:26 PM
I don't know who shoeonhead is so I googled him and it's a her. Is she even old enough to know what shoeonhead is from? https://knowyourmeme.com/memes/put-shoe-on-head. I was there, Gandalf. I was there 3,000 years ago when people were asking cam girls to put shoes on their heads.

I think she's like 30 something idk

Reiwa
04-25-2022, 04:26 PM
I think she's like 30 something idk

When was scene or emo popular? Her makeup is one of those don't know which.

MrSparkle001
04-25-2022, 04:32 PM
I think she's like 30 something idk

Ok so she's old enough to know that shoe on head fad.

The whole dick vein thing isn't true either, but now I want to tell my girlfriend about how it's there and see how she reacts to Snickers lol.

Gravydoo II
04-25-2022, 04:43 PM
Why do you think that?

He used a racial slur with the intent of harming or breaking the peace, thats a fighting word.

fighting words
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Fighting words are words meant to incite violence such that they may not be protected free speech under the First Amendment. The U.S. Supreme Court first defined them in Chaplinsky v New Hampshire (1942) as words which "by their very utterance, inflict injury or tend to incite an immediate breach of the peace. It has been well observed that such utterances are no essential part of any exposition of ideas, and are of such slight social value as a step to truth that any benefit that may be derived from them is clearly outweighed by the social interest in order and morality."

He didnt have to say it. He could have made an actual point, why someone was wrong or not. He didnt.

Reiwa
04-25-2022, 04:47 PM
He used a racial slur with the intent of harming or breaking the peace, thats a fighting word.

fighting words
Primary tabs
Fighting words are words meant to incite violence such that they may not be protected free speech under the First Amendment. The U.S. Supreme Court first defined them in Chaplinsky v New Hampshire (1942) as words which "by their very utterance, inflict injury or tend to incite an immediate breach of the peace. It has been well observed that such utterances are no essential part of any exposition of ideas, and are of such slight social value as a step to truth that any benefit that may be derived from them is clearly outweighed by the social interest in order and morality."

He didnt have to say it. He could have made an actual point, why someone was wrong or not. He didnt.

I think 'fighting words' only exists in mutual combat states, TX and WA.

Reiwa
04-25-2022, 05:51 PM
Title 42 temporarily reblocked from being unblocked from blocking the border.

Jibartik
04-25-2022, 06:07 PM
Democrat here talking about how fighting is a constitutional right and this guy thinks he's not a GOP turd.

Gravydoo II
04-25-2022, 06:41 PM
Nobody said anything retarded like whatever the fuck is above this post.

Gravydoo II
04-25-2022, 06:46 PM
I think 'fighting words' only exists in mutual combat states, TX and WA.

Its been found by the supreme court that they exist so it doesnt matter which state. You can use it as a defense. Anyone with a brain knows there are things you can say to make someone hit you if you keep at it long enough. To think that humans have all the sudden evolved to some non-violent, unable to be provoked, and will never lash out is just not realistic. The law knows it.

Reiwa
04-25-2022, 06:50 PM
Its been found by the supreme court that they exist so it doesnt matter which state. You can use it as a defense. Anyone with a brain knows there are things you can say to make someone hit you if you keep at it long enough. To think that humans have all the sudden evolved to some non-violent, unable to be provoked, and will never lash out is just not realistic. The law knows it.

Not true though. (https://people.howstuffworks.com/when-legal-punch-someone-face.htm)

Kaveh
04-25-2022, 07:19 PM
Title 42 temporarily reblocked from being unblocked from blocking the border.

Title 42 is back in force?

Gravydoo II
04-25-2022, 07:29 PM
Not true though. (https://people.howstuffworks.com/when-legal-punch-someone-face.htm)

This is why we have a supreme court and lawyers. Laws are not black a white.

Then we have we get into what the definition of an aggressor is and then what a threat is and then the situation, were words exchanged? Did someone say "ill kick your ass?" was someone in fear?? On and on and on.

Reiwa
04-25-2022, 07:40 PM
Title 42 is back in force?

Biden set it to be rescinded May 23, still in force before then. But now in force after then too, pending litigation! Tromp must have done a good job of tying up the legal knots.

Elizondo and the boys making up stories about the border again. :p

starkind
04-25-2022, 07:57 PM
Liberals are starting to eat their own and divide again.

Honestly I don't think they have what it takes. It will be the rural Republicans that survive. Libs will kill eachtother in ignorance for their favorite corporate flags and affiliates.

Elizondo
04-25-2022, 08:01 PM
Biden set it to be rescinded May 23, still in force before then. But now in force after then too, pending litigation! Tromp must have done a good job of tying up the legal knots.

Elizondo and the boys making up stories about the border again. :p

I haven't mentioned Title 42

Reiwa
04-25-2022, 08:40 PM
I haven't mentioned Title 42

Didn't say ya had.

unsunghero
04-26-2022, 11:09 AM
I wanted to be a dump truck when I was a kid. People would politely clarify you mean a dump truck driver? And I would say “NO, a dump truck”

This just shows how ahead of his time Louis CK was when he joked that he was raising his kids gay, and that they could do whatever they wanted when they were 18 but until then in his household they are gay. It was meant to be a satire about homophobic parents who said they were raising their kids straight, despite what their kids wanted. The man was ahead of his time with his satire

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=j87Qx0onTyA

MrSparkle001
04-26-2022, 11:18 AM
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=j87Qx0onTyA

The article he's talking about isn't satire?

Ok so the article is real but there's no way it's not written satirically.

https://www.today.com/parents/essay/man-boxes-stereotypes-tractors-rcna25364

I mean come on

I had to make a choice: buy him clothes with pictures of heavy machinery on them and make the kid happy, or force him to wear shirts emblazoned with fuzzy animals to appease me.

But it has a (I guess) happy ending. This weaselly closeted manlet is letting his son be himself, growing up to be an actual man with testosterone:

I had difficulty understanding my son’s interest in tractors, and at first, I tried to nudge Avishai toward different videos and clothing. But then I remembered how hard it was for my father to trust me to follow my passions, and the way we connected after he finally did. I took on being an at-home father because I wanted to bond with my son, and I realized that meant I needed to let him discover his own interests. He had to define his own identity, not influenced by my own bias of what I deemed to be too masculine. I started taking joy in his joy. He radiates wearing his shirts emblazoned with diggers and dozers and excavators. At 3 ½ years old, he can name dozens of types of tractors (I always thought there was only one). He makes up quasi-gibberish tractor stories, sings quasi-gibberish tractor songs. Together, we clean the living room: He uses his tractors to put all his toys away. Sometimes my dad comes over and we drive tiny plastic machinery from room to room. My son beams. My dad beams. I beam, too.

unsunghero
04-26-2022, 11:20 AM
The article he's talking about isn't satire?

No it’s real, but ya never know with something on the internet, but it was on a syndicated tv program as well so

starkind
04-26-2022, 11:22 AM
I'm not sure it's child abuse to raise everyone Mormons. Some kids are just going to be train wrecks tho. More so because of their parents and communities. Not specifically cuz they are like Mormons.

unsunghero
04-26-2022, 01:14 PM
Black lives don’t matter when the media can’t make any money off their deaths

“Some soldier at the border died? Pfft, that is old shit. Back to our regularly scheduled programming about how border patrol and ice are racist”

Reiwa
04-26-2022, 01:28 PM
Black lives don’t matter when the media can’t make any money off their deaths

“Some soldier at the border died? Pfft, that is old shit. Back to our regularly scheduled programming about how border patrol and ice are racist”

How are those things related/

The soldier died because the media spoke badly about different government organizations?

starkind
04-26-2022, 01:43 PM
How are those things related/

The soldier died because the media spoke badly about different government organizations?
The soldier died because they couldn't legally fire upon the illegally drowning idiots with small arms. Like a .50 cal.

Reiwa
04-26-2022, 01:44 PM
The soldier died because they couldn't legally fire upon the illegally drowning idiots with either small arms or a .50 cal.

starkind
04-26-2022, 01:46 PM
I ftfy

Oh g-d posting is rough today 😪 🙏🧕

Horza
04-26-2022, 02:51 PM
Florida man asking state school districts to ban the Bible—saying it's not an age-appropriate book for kids and contains references to rape, bestiality and infanticide. (https://www.npr.org/2022/04/26/1094740651/florida-man-asks-schools-to-ban-the-bible-following-the-states-efforts-to-remove)

Jibartik
04-26-2022, 02:58 PM
gravy?

Jibartik
04-26-2022, 03:20 PM
Meat consumption must fall by at least 75% for sustainable consumption, says study (https://phys.org/news/2022-04-meat-consumption-fall-sustainable.html)

https://i.imgur.com/Ukpxl6S.png

Horza
04-26-2022, 03:32 PM
https://i.imgur.com/Ukpxl6S.png

Sorry your obese messianic figure lost badly and became an embarrassment to the party, paste eating chum.

starkind
04-26-2022, 03:33 PM
Meat consumption must fall by at least 75% for sustainable consumption, says study (https://phys.org/news/2022-04-meat-consumption-fall-sustainable.html)

https://i.imgur.com/Ukpxl6S.png

100% :o :p

Gravydoo II
04-26-2022, 04:44 PM
Only an actual retarded person would believe that a parent is worried that tractors are "too masculine".

When you want to believe something, you will. Why dont you just write your own outrage porn story about a parent who says having a penis is too masculine, etc etc?? You're gonna jerk off to it all the same, real or not.

It would be easier to just write it yourself and spread it around.

The fact that the kid happens to have a hebrew name isnt AT ALL done on purpose to whip up hatred towards jews, either.

MrSparkle001
04-26-2022, 05:30 PM
Only an actual retarded person would believe that a parent is worried that tractors are "too masculine".

When you want to believe something, you will. Why dont you just write your own outrage porn story about a parent who says having a penis is too masculine, etc etc?? You're gonna jerk off to it all the same, real or not.

It would be easier to just write it yourself and spread it around.

The fact that the kid happens to have a hebrew name isnt AT ALL done on purpose to whip up hatred towards jews, either.

I googled the guy and it does seem a legit article.

Would love for it to be false/satire though, because wtf is up with not wanting your son to be masculine?

Reiwa
04-26-2022, 05:32 PM
Only an actual retarded person would believe that a parent is worried that tractors are "too masculine".

When you want to believe something, you will. Why dont you just write your own outrage porn story about a parent who says having a penis is too masculine, etc etc?? You're gonna jerk off to it all the same, real or not.

It would be easier to just write it yourself and spread it around.

The fact that the kid happens to have a hebrew name isnt AT ALL done on purpose to whip up hatred towards jews, either.

Appears to be this person. (https://www.today.com/parents/essay/man-boxes-stereotypes-tractors-rcna25364)

https://i.imgur.com/4JNtqdK.jpg

Follow him on Twitter (https://twitter.com/jaydeitcher?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp %7Ctwgr%5Eauthor)

Jibartik
04-26-2022, 05:58 PM
Appears to be this person. (https://www.today.com/parents/essay/man-boxes-stereotypes-tractors-rcna25364)

https://i.imgur.com/4JNtqdK.jpg

Follow him on Twitter (https://twitter.com/jaydeitcher?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp %7Ctwgr%5Eauthor)

I actually read that article, 60% of it is some narcasistic stories about how much of a hero he is lol what a bunch of scum these "empathetic" people are. Just manga manga manga they want attention, and accolades, manja mnja manja (https://youtu.be/qtCOScRuaXk?t=12) give me more more more! I need it Im hungry for the heroic appreciation! I dont have a job and my wife is a bitch, I am starved for attention!

Reiwa
04-26-2022, 06:12 PM
I actually read that article, 60% of it is some narcasistic stories about how much of a hero he is lol what a bunch of scum these "empathetic" people are. Just manga manga manga they want attention, and accolades, manja mnja manja (https://youtu.be/qtCOScRuaXk?t=12) give me more more more! I need it Im hungry for the heroic appreciation! I dont have a job and my wife is a bitch, I am starved for attention!

I thought mangia means to eat? 💩

Gravydoo II
04-26-2022, 06:23 PM
Remember when that woman was twerking and lit herself on fire??? Totally real, too.
It was on video.
Meanwhile
https://news.yahoo.com/neighborhood-wisconsin-man-charged-hate-210400134.html

Weird.

Trexller
04-26-2022, 07:39 PM
Remember when that woman was twerking and lit herself on fire??? Totally real, too.
It was on video.
Meanwhile
https://news.yahoo.com/neighborhood-wisconsin-man-charged-hate-210400134.html

Weird.

so out of the 330 million americans, you found the 1 guy who is legitimately racist

bully for you

he's not special, he's not waging a campaign, he's just one more poor shmuck on the vast spectrum of mental illness.

a professional could explain it better

perhaps Unsunghero could help you out, call his service and let them know you'll come in on short notice should he have a cancellation, or maybe they do mental health evaluations via Zoom.

we know you won't be busy.

Swish
04-26-2022, 07:48 PM
Appears to be this person. (https://www.today.com/parents/essay/man-boxes-stereotypes-tractors-rcna25364)

https://i.imgur.com/4JNtqdK.jpg

Follow him on Twitter (https://twitter.com/jaydeitcher?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp %7Ctwgr%5Eauthor)

After turning 2 years old, my son, Avishai, started demanding that he only wear tractor shirts, and my mind spiraled into darkness. I catastrophized worst-case scenarios, imagining a world where he fell for everything stereotypically manly. I envisioned him on a football field, barreling through mega-muscled opponents. Imagined him waxing a sports car on a warm summer day. I have always judged other guys who seemed boxed in by masculinity, but 3 ½ years ago, when I became a stay-at-home dad, my bias skyrocketed.

lmao, the poor kid :(

Trexller
04-26-2022, 07:58 PM
lmao, the poor kid :(

that kid will grow into the biggest CHAD in the history of humanity

kids pretty much always end up the opposite of what you want them to be

so if you want your son to grow up to be a bi soy boy with rainbow colored hair:

then enroll him in military school ASAP

when he returns home on leave, you go to monster truck shows, catfish noodling and then you watch monster truck shows and catfish noodling on the big screen TV at the strip club. a dirty, sleazy $10 lapdance strip club.

he'll be voting straight democrat tickets by age 20

starkind
04-26-2022, 08:04 PM
Appears to be this person. (https://www.today.com/parents/essay/man-boxes-stereotypes-tractors-rcna25364)

https://i.imgur.com/4JNtqdK.jpg

Follow him on Twitter (https://twitter.com/jaydeitcher?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp %7Ctwgr%5Eauthor)

That beard is way too masculine.

Jibartik
04-26-2022, 08:13 PM
I thought mangia means to eat? 💩

idk how to spell thats why i added the link :D

starkind
04-26-2022, 08:17 PM
I am perfectly peaceful and innocent and I *don't want to* punch that smarmy face.

Jibartik
04-26-2022, 08:48 PM
I am perfectly peaceful and innocent and I *don't want to* punch that smarmy face.

Serenity now!!!

starkind
04-26-2022, 09:20 PM
I feel like.. River Tam.

Sometimes just being in a room with someone I start seeing like thousands of different ways to kill or disable them. Like I get this download. Usually around really bad people. Proximity matters more than visual contact. Like they could be right on the other side of a wall. I have had to just walk away so many times to get enough distance. Then it's fine if they are like 100 ft away unless I'm focusing on them with intent. Then I can get the same thing from afar. Like if I was using ironsites and reaching out to feel.

It's really crappy. And I always feel bad knowing bad ppl are like running lose cuz I am super heck'n lawful. My feelings have never been wrong about ppl wanting to do harm to others it's such a shitty feeling. Ill see in the news.. or the police will be at their house days later... every damn time.. And the irony is I really never want to do harm ever even to these ppl. Even tho I get all that downloaded. I don't enjoy seeing and feeling all those ways of hurting someone it is really terrible.

My family is so stupid... they really cannot understand.. it's like they are a different species entirely...this can't be genetic unless I'm a test tube baby or something.


Yesssss it's insane. It's totally crazy. Wacko. NUTZ. Nothing good can be said of it.

The worst is some major world or local event like a riot or protest or like a bunch of people focusing all their hate in unison because then I can feel it all around me and it's like I'm hearing everyone and I can be totally alone... then it's really hard to drown out. It has to be like 10s of thousands in unison tho. Ukraine has been really weird. A lot of people actually want to do the right thing so it sorta balances out. Like morality. Good. Righteousness, G-dlyness is the key.

unsunghero
04-26-2022, 11:05 PM
Nice direction academia is heading in

Not only is porn in general not healthy, it has been shown to cause huge strife in relationships to the point of ending some (due to someone’s over-indulgence in it pushing their partner away), but also can be extremely addictive and destructive especially to the minds of youth

Also, I wonder if this college realizes that at the very least some of the guys are FOR SURE going to be jerking off in that class? If they are ok turning their classroom into a seedy porn movie theater and pretending that indecent exposure laws don’t exist, more power to them I guess. I just feel bad for the janitor who has to come and clean up after

Sad direction we are heading in. Figures it only happens in a “gender studies” major. Have fun finding work with your useless degree

starkind
04-26-2022, 11:10 PM
Tbf. If you're going to critique it. You should be familiar and able to analyze it. Much like in the Hollywood film industry breaking down camera angles and alignment along the golden rules and stuff.

That course is acknowledging there are issues with it. As well as abuse. They do kinda cop out a little "accepting how integral is in America's cultural identity"... rather than pushing back on that a little by saying "it is detrimentally integrated" or whatever verbiage.

unsunghero
04-26-2022, 11:13 PM
Tbf. If you're going to critique it. You should be familiar and able to analyze it. Much like in the Hollywood film industry breaking down camera angles and alignment along the golden rules and stuff.

How to successfully peddle an addictive vice? Sort of like a class on how to best sell cigarettes? Where all the students try smoking some each day during class

Sign me up…/s

starkind
04-26-2022, 11:15 PM
How to successfully peddle an addictive vice? Sort of like a class on how to best sell cigarettes? Where all the students try smoking some each day during class

Sign me up…/s

Oh. That is a fair point.

I read the fine print as "how to understand". It will most likely just be used to make money tho. Cuz that is how we do it. Can't do anything without profit n stuff.

It's more profitable to sell ur body on screen than farm goods food or care for others or raise children... so...

Technically if u can make good money tho u can pay other ppl to raise children so in capitalism porn may indirectly be the most efficient way to pay for childcare.

unsunghero
04-26-2022, 11:20 PM
Oh. That is a fair point.

I read the fine print as "how to understand". It will most likely just be used to make money tho. Cuz that is how we do it. Can't do anything without profit n stuff.

I took human sexuality in college because I heard it was interesting. I dropped it early on because I had taken too many electives at the time and had to trim some fat

A study of porn’s development with a lot of focus put on the destruction it has done to relationships, our youth, and people’s addictive personalities could be interesting

I think it works as an art form the same way alcohol fits into the (revised) food pyramid. It is a net negative, it’s just a matter of how much overall health you want to compromise with the negative for short term gain

That’s my view of it

starkind
04-26-2022, 11:22 PM
Alcohol in its present industrial form is cringe.

Alcohol in its past forms was integral to keeping a healthy gut biome. Preserving food, having safer liquids (low Alcohol content filtered).

unsunghero
04-26-2022, 11:27 PM
Alcohol in its present industrial form is cringe.

Alcohol in its past forms was integral to keeping a healthy gut biome. Preserving food, having safer liquids (low Alcohol content filtered).

Well the analogy was more for brain health. There are many different things that provide a short term dopamine fix at the cost of reduction of overall brain health, and I think porn fits into that category

But I know a lot of people disagree. I’m personally more interested to hear from people who can truthfully say “I am in a fulfilling long-term relationship that is in no way hindered by my porn viewing” rather than some single shut-in who thinks porn plays no role in their loss of interest in relationships (not saying this is you though)

starkind
04-26-2022, 11:31 PM
Yeah Alcohol does interfere with the brain. Even in the context of Tudor England.

Porn is horrible and it's eroding, undermining our civilization. Absolutely no doubt about it.

unsunghero
04-26-2022, 11:36 PM
Yeah Alcohol does interfere with the brain. Even in the context of Tudor England.

In regards to porn, deprivation creates motivation. Deprivation of sexual stimulation creates motivation to seek out intimate relationships with others. Porn reduces or completely removes deprivation, depending on the amount of use. This works against someone being motivated to look for relationships, and may be a large contributing factor in the growing number of young people who have no interest in these

Someday years down the road if it continues to get worse, we may as a nation realize this

unsunghero
04-26-2022, 11:44 PM
Also, those crazy fucking incels that see women as nothing but walking sex objects and expect that 10/10 attractiveness women are just going to throw themselves at them and are infuriated to the point of going on killing sprees when it doesn’t happen…

….I can GUARANTEE that their brains were twisted and warped from a young age by porn

starkind
04-26-2022, 11:44 PM
Yeah I agree.

Even broken ppl shouldn't be using porn for dopamine hits. Because you can fill the void of intimacy with other creative or beneficial behaviors, like religion. Or yoga. Or surfing. Or voulenteering. Or running an Emulator or whatever.

Reiwa
04-26-2022, 11:58 PM
if it's in gender studies, it's probably anti-porn from an intersectional perspective.

"Critical Erotica Theory!" :D

*crickets, boos* :(

Jibartik
04-27-2022, 12:16 AM
Its funny how all the pieces of every single dystopian novel (including the bible) keeps lining right up with literally everything science (the thing that is supposed to disprove silly books) is discovering.

:o

starkind
04-27-2022, 08:42 AM
Its funny how all the pieces of every single dystopian novel (including the bible) keeps lining right up with literally everything science (the thing that is supposed to disprove silly books) is discovering.

:o

Psychics wrote them even if they didn't want to admit or where afraid Satan made them psychic and maybe he did.

Jibartik
04-27-2022, 10:59 AM
I wonder if stawars's roll is designed to make us think nazi's are kinda cool.

Horza
04-27-2022, 01:33 PM
I wonder if stawars's roll is designed to make us think nazi's are kinda cool.

Making you think Nazis are cool is like shooting fish in a barrel, Jib.

Jibartik
04-27-2022, 02:06 PM
ok tepplar

Gravydoo II
04-27-2022, 02:52 PM
Half of americas men dont have a female partner? Is that for real?????

Ooloo
04-27-2022, 03:01 PM
Half of americas men dont have a female partner? Is that for real?????

Bitches be crazy

MrSparkle001
04-27-2022, 03:05 PM
Half of americas men dont have a female partner? Is that for real?????

No because we're not talking about "men" we're talking about porn-addicted soy boys that are either unemployed or willfully underemployed.

Reiwa
04-27-2022, 03:14 PM
Half of americas men dont have a female partner? Is that for real?????

Half of 18-34, not just men. (Article (https://www.washingtonpost.com/lifestyle/2019/03/21/its-not-just-you-new-data-shows-more-than-half-young-people-america-dont-have-romantic-partner/))

Zoomoids are all poly using phone apps to order booty calls every night. :p

Steady partners are expensive, like avocado toast.

Horza
04-27-2022, 03:22 PM
Bitches be crazy

You paste eating morons wonder why they won't vote GOP :p

Gravydoo II
04-27-2022, 03:22 PM
LOL that is too much.. I see an opportunity to make money.

Jibartik
04-27-2022, 03:27 PM
OFs?

robayon
04-27-2022, 03:52 PM
Bitches be crazyA lovely, self-fulfilling excuse, the type of which I hear so often from the mouth of the arrogant conservative to explain almost anything

Ooloo
04-27-2022, 04:00 PM
Haha it was just a joke sheesh.

Jibartik
04-27-2022, 04:05 PM
Though I dont think its the reason for the OP but I would like to re-enforce that bitches, do be crazy.

Gustoo
04-27-2022, 04:11 PM
The booty call apps definitely work for some people

Were all trained to idolize and emulate narcist media star behavior so it is no surprise that commited relationships are less popular than the past.

How this will impact society is a subject for much speculation. On one hand, people not forcing themselves into marriages with low chance of success will no longer produce children that will be negatively impacted by those failed marriages.

On the other hand, societal collapse?

Most people with kids the same age as my kids are ten years older than me.

There is a saying "you either have kids, or you are a kid" and my biggest concern is a heavy anti kid mentality from millenials and boomers leaving children more fucked than they are. Raising good children is the most cost effective way to solve societal problems and the narcisists in charge from the boomer era already consider children back burner priority.

There is a lot of emotional literacy stuff jammed into the z boys and it may translate into something good, though im afraid it will just be used to justify the same old selfish behaviors everyone else used to do without explanation.

Jibartik
04-27-2022, 04:16 PM
Every generation says that the one after them sucks, but the hard to swallow pill is they are all right.

Gustoo
04-27-2022, 04:18 PM
Though I dont think its the reason for the OP but I would like to re-enforce that bitches, do be crazy.

You ever tried to have a serious conversation with a man who was in any way emotionally or physically uncomfortable in that moment?

Men and women are equally likely to be irrational and not worth talking to. Bonus is that men in that state are more likely to be dangerous.

People "be crazy" and both men and women fail to do what is required to maintain a healthy long term relationship. With netflix and masturbation and mainstream telling you that all of your flaws should be embraced and endulged and not scrutinized and considered and worked on, no one even knows what the definition of "good" is. Look at how we cant decide what to force our children to learn. How terrible do we have to be that we cant agree on a way for public schools to provide basic education for our kids.

Weve all let all of eachother down. People with the most resources and most power even moreso, which is why people blaming the rich are half right, but they need to recognize what kind of rich person they would be also.

Jibartik
04-27-2022, 04:20 PM
Another hard to swallow pill, literally every single girl at the bar is there for one reason: Get some dick.

The problem is we've conditioned people to think that talking to each other about that at bars is sexual harassment.

(maybe the one or two regulars are just alcoholics, but if you know alcoholics like I do, they after d and p at all times just like everyone else.)

starkind
04-27-2022, 04:26 PM
If you want another generation of boomers.

1) bring back locally owned and operated businesses and utilities
2) regulate bad food
3) nationalize health care
4) let / help communities and individuals police themselves better without depending on 911 calls
5) bring down housing costs and residential utility bills
6) let people raise their friggin kids how they want
7) place mentally ill in housing where they have limited rights, a schedule, and are heavily monitored with group activities between jobs where they get paid some. Do not make it easy to regain freedom status, rights

Redo the electors to 1 per state and let only taxpayers vote. If you file together you get 1 vote. Do ranked choice voting. Dependents and people on welfare or disability don't get votes. Like you have to have actively filed a tax return to vote. If you are mentally ill you don't get a vote.

Horza
04-27-2022, 04:32 PM
Though I dont think its the reason for the OP but I would like to re-enforce that bitches, do be crazy.

Another hard to swallow pill, literally every single girl at the bar is there for one reason: Get some dick.

The problem is we've conditioned people to think that talking to each other about that at bars is sexual harassment.

(maybe the one or two regulars are just alcoholics, but if you know alcoholics like I do, they after d and p at all times just like everyone else.)

https://i.imgur.com/sZHVruY.jpg

starkind
04-27-2022, 04:35 PM
Just have good dance moves and be funny lol. Gg.

Jibartik
04-27-2022, 04:35 PM
lol you dont need to try that hard is what I am saying horza, but as usual you just cant grasp anything and revert to your own personal daemon projecting.

starkind
04-27-2022, 04:36 PM
Horza probably starts off by screening their politics and gender. Thats a big fail in most places probably.

Gravydoo II
04-27-2022, 04:39 PM
Nick fuentes is not allowed to have a girlfriend or he will lose his incel audience. He said he kissed a girl once they lost their shit.

He had to do damage control for interacting with a woman. Thats pretty serious. I didnt know it was THAT common though.

MrSparkle001
04-27-2022, 04:39 PM
Just have good dance moves and be funny lol. Gg.

I know right?

https://i.imgur.com/BSBC00r.jpg

Raj
04-27-2022, 04:40 PM
If you want another generation of boomers.

1) bring back locally owned and operated businesses and utilities
2) regulate bad food
3) nationalize health care
4) let / help communities and individuals police themselves better without depending on 911 calls
5) bring down housing costs and residential utility bills
6) let people raise their friggin kids how they want
7) place mentally ill in housing where they have limited rights, a schedule, and are heavily monitored with group activities between jobs where they get paid some. Do not make it easy to regain freedom status, rights

Redo the electors to 1 per state and let only taxpayers vote. If you file together you get 1 vote. Do ranked choice voting. Dependents and people on welfare or disability don't get votes. Like you have to have actively filed a tax return to vote. If you are mentally ill you don't get a vote.

1 of the top 3 mentally ill forumquesters here would like themself and some of you others whom practically live here via their phone or PC - to be Locked up and heavily monitored at all times.

Folks, you cant make this stuff up LOL

The rates of self-loathing in this community are mighty high? Yikes!

Gravydoo II
04-27-2022, 04:46 PM
The omar mateen is radiating off this one.

Raj
04-27-2022, 04:50 PM
The omar mateen is radiating off this one.

Nice casual racism my friend from the "woke" brigade lols

Horza
04-27-2022, 05:02 PM
lol you dont need to try that hard is what I am saying horza, but as usual you just cant grasp anything and revert to your own personal daemon projecting.

There's plenty of you nutjobs one rejection away from going Elliot Rodger posting here since staff stopped paying attention.

Kaveh
04-27-2022, 06:27 PM
1 of the top 3 mentally ill forumquesters here would like themself and some of you others whom practically live here via their phone or PC - to be Locked up and heavily monitored at all times.

Folks, you cant make this stuff up LOL

The rates of self-loathing in this community are mighty high? Yikes!

Weren’t you caught being another poster?

I can’t remember

Kaveh
04-27-2022, 06:28 PM
A lovely, self-fulfilling excuse, the type of which I hear so often from the mouth of the arrogant conservative to explain almost anything

He probably was just joking man

Jibartik
04-27-2022, 07:08 PM
There's plenty of you nutjobs one rejection away from going Elliot Rodger posting here since staff stopped paying attention.

lmao you are actually angry, and told me to kill myself.

Raj
04-27-2022, 07:26 PM
Weren’t you caught being another poster?

I can’t remember

No but you are white, post w many accounts, & probably should go outside a lot more or seek help for your troubles my friend! :cool:

Horza
04-27-2022, 07:42 PM
lmao you are actually angry, and told me to kill myself.

Every single day you make ten or twenty posts about how your obese messianic figure was robbed, you'd really be doing us all a favor.

starkind
04-27-2022, 07:57 PM
1 of the top 3 mentally ill forumquesters here would like themself and some of you others whom practically live here via their phone or PC - to be Locked up and heavily monitored at all times.

Folks, you cant make this stuff up LOL

The rates of self-loathing in this community are mighty high? Yikes!

Imagine having the opportunity to contribute a little bit to society and have a less violent more peaceful life and get a little bit of something in return instead of just getting beaten to death or committing suicide or being left to die in the dirt screaming.

It's a noble ideal to sacrifice for others. Just because someone is insane... or even in my case psychic-oticly dangerously insane doesn't mean we are without morals or a desire to do better. I have integrity and honor. At the very least. More than most people have.

starkind
04-27-2022, 08:03 PM
I know right?

https://i.imgur.com/BSBC00r.jpg

You need confidence to get confidence bro. It's that easy bro.

robayon
04-27-2022, 08:11 PM
He probably was just joking manI don't really care what conservatives think constitutes a joke, either, their intentions are meaningless

unsunghero
04-27-2022, 08:31 PM
This one works for both women and men, generally works better for women. But the caveat is you have to continue making progress. Also going from really out of shape to average will do more for you than average to jacked, which can actually be off-putting for some women

Gravydoo II
04-27-2022, 10:00 PM
Nice casual racism my friend from the "woke" brigade lols

Fuck your feelings.
Racism is not a thing in the united states.

Pick one.

Raj
04-27-2022, 10:02 PM
Fuck your feelings.
Racism is not a thing in the united states.

Pick one.

Seek therapy & sunlight, Calamaro

Even shrimp can be nobles of Atlantis is you evolve or grow up more. :cool:

Gravydoo II
04-27-2022, 10:08 PM
Seek therapy & sunlight, Calamaro

Even shrimp can be nobles of Atlantis is you evolve or grow up more. :cool:

Found a fan. Thanks for all your support fam.

Raj
04-27-2022, 10:15 PM
Found a fan. Thanks for all your support fam.

Well I guess you could say Im a fan of you being your best self and not hurting anyone as much as I am of about anyone else in our big family here on this planet.

Kaveh
04-27-2022, 10:33 PM
No but you are white, post w many accounts, & probably should go outside a lot more or seek help for your troubles my friend! :cool:

Definitely not white and a funny post right after you call someone else racist

Who’s mentally ill again?

Jibartik
04-28-2022, 12:53 AM
you told me to kill myself.

you'd really be doing us all a favor.


not ok.

Raj
04-28-2022, 08:05 AM
Definitely not white and a funny post right after you call someone else racist

Who’s mentally ill again?

You werent conpared to mass murderer Omar Mateen dummy but I was, podsibly by 1 of your many alt alt accoumts. Anyone paying attention to the forums long enough knows some of you dorks roll regularly w many different accounts because you feel the need to cheat. :o

Ooloo
04-28-2022, 08:50 AM
There's plenty of you nutjobs one rejection away from going Elliot Rodger posting here since staff stopped paying attention.

Getting banned from the p99 forums might just be the thing that finally sends them over the edge, ever consider that? Makes u think.

JK I do not think anyone who posts here is going to ever actually harm anyone else irl. Except maybe you horza.

starkind
04-28-2022, 08:56 AM
I saw a true crime last week where a guy in Britain finally went on his shotgun spree after getting banned from a forum. I forgot his name but watch out! Anyway sorry for the extra post



Nice.

Threatening ppl.

This forum should not be that big a deal to you.

Seriously.

Plz.

Go.

DBT now.

Make that zoom meeting for a group therapy session ASAP

starkind
04-28-2022, 09:04 AM
Not threatening people, I meant "watch out cuz it happens". I am not attacking you in any way. Sorry again for posting, have a good day...



Ya right lol. That just came right out of the blue for no reason..

Impulse control!

Thankfully u probably lack the ability to make a coordinated disciplined attack. I do regret ever sharing my personal info with you. And everyone will. Until you change. You will be forever alone. Worse than even me.

I cannot pray hard enough to save your soul.

U gotta do that.

Jibartik
04-28-2022, 11:00 AM
Getting banned from the p99 forums might just be the thing that finally sends them over the edge, ever consider that? Makes u think.

JK I do not think anyone who posts here is going to ever actually harm anyone else irl. Except maybe you horza.

In the same post horza says that talking about dating strategy might turn someone into a mass shooter because people can be influenced on this website he told me that everyone would be happier here if I killed myself.

This is too far.

This is not humor this is not jokes he’s trying to someone here to kill themself.

starkind
04-28-2022, 11:04 AM
Agreed. To far.

unsunghero
04-28-2022, 12:30 PM
Biden took the idea from his buddy, China

Any information critical of the state = misinformation, amirite?

Reiwa
04-28-2022, 12:33 PM
Twitter is excited today because Roberts isn't writing the Dobbs decision? (abortion case)

ELI5? :confused:

unsunghero
04-28-2022, 12:37 PM
..

starkind
04-28-2022, 12:40 PM
Biden likely didn't "raise" hunter or be at home much. I don't really know for sure tho. Zero research.

Kaveh
04-28-2022, 01:17 PM
Twitter is excited today because Roberts isn't writing the Dobbs decision? (abortion case)

ELI5? :confused:

Please explain all of this, seems interesting but I don’t understand what you are saying

Jibartik
04-28-2022, 01:22 PM
yeah im gonna need an ELI3 for that one.