the i dont care about politics anymore thread

[unsunghero]

Democratic media and not Democrat media.

Conjugate correctly, man, enough with the GOP speak already.

WTF are you blabbering on about?

“Democratic: relating to or supporting democracy or its principles”

When I say Democrat media, I mean a mainstream media controlled and staffed by Democrats, the left, whatever you want to call them

[Horza]

WTF are you blabbering on about?

“Democratic: relating to or supporting democracy or its principles”

When I say Democrat media, I mean a mainstream media controlled and staffed by Democrats, the left, whatever you want to call them

Do I call Fox News and OAN Republic media?

No, because they're Republican media.

[unsunghero]

Do I call Fox News and OAN Republic media?

No, because they're Republican media.

A Republican is commonly used as a noun, as in a person

Democratic is an adjective. Republicans also believe in the democratic process, it’s not like only the left believes in democracy

“Democracy is a form of government in which the people have the authority to deliberate and decide legislation, or to choose governing officials to do so”

[Whale biologist]

Republicans also believe in the democratic process, it’s not like only the left believes in democracy


Nuh uh. North Korea is a Republic.

[Horza]

A Republican is commonly used as a noun, as in a person

Democratic is an adjective. Republicans also believe in the democratic process, it’s not like only the left believes in democracy

“Democracy is a form of government in which the people have the authority to deliberate and decide legislation, or to choose governing officials to do so”

Republican is an adjective when it's used in the phrase Republican media, you're functionally illiterate.

[Elizondo]

Do you guys think the country is headed in the right direction?

Yes or no?

I dunno man

I paid 5 dollars a gallon for gas today. Old Dude not doin a good job IMO.

[unsunghero]

Republican is an adjective when it's used in the phrase Republican media, you're functionally illiterate.

/sigh

“re·pub·li·can
/rəˈpəbləkən/
adjective

(of a form of government, constitution, etc.) belonging to, or characteristic of a republic

noun
1.
a person advocating or supporting republican government.
"those who favored the continuance of the republic made every effort to defeat the monarchists and to have republicans elected in their places"
2.
a member or supporter of the Republican Party”

[unsunghero]

So when you say Republican media, and are using it as an adjective, this means that you are describing Fox as being a republic government

Which makes no fucking sense

[Gravydoo II]

prove me wrong.

horza, they dont know what words they are using.

[Mblake1981]

I dunno man

I paid 5 dollars a gallon for gas today. Old Dude not doin a good job IMO.

But you really need justification to buy these expensive battery cars.

This is the Prius 2.0, remember the minor crisis in the 2000's? i do. Gas went up and they pushed $30,000+ vehicles as a solution.
It's manipulation. The Green Agenda is the money in your pocket.

[Elizondo]

But you really need justification to buy these expensive battery cars.

This is the Prius 2.0, remember the minor crisis in the 2000's? i do. Gas went up and they pushed $30,000+ vehicles as a solution.
It's manipulation. The Green Agenda is the money in your pocket.

I used to have RC Cars as a kid. Grasshopper ftw

I don't want to drive one around though. That's lame.

[Mblake1981]

I used to have RC Cars as a kid. Grasshopper ftw

I don't want to drive one around though. That's lame.

Tamiya makes good kits.

[unsunghero]

Republican is an adjective when it's used in the phrase Republican media, you're functionally illiterate.

“adjective
(of a form of government, constitution, etc.) belonging to, or characteristic of a republic”

“noun
1.
a person advocating or supporting republican government.
"those who favored the continuance of the republic made every effort to defeat the monarchists and to have republicans elected in their places"
2.
a member or supporter of the Republican Party”


LOOK AT THE BOLD WORDS AND USE YOUR 2 BRAIN CELLS TO CONNECT THE DOTS. YOU ARE USING IT AS A NOUN

[Whale biologist]

republic is not republican is not Republican

[Elizondo]

Thread be like

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[Horza]

“adjective
(of a form of government, constitution, etc.) belonging to, or characteristic of a republic”

“noun
1.
a person advocating or supporting republican government.
"those who favored the continuance of the republic made every effort to defeat the monarchists and to have republicans elected in their places"
2.
a member or supporter of the Republican Party”


LOOK AT THE BOLD WORDS AND USE YOUR 2 BRAIN CELLS TO CONNECT THE DOTS. YOU ARE USING IT AS A NOUN

Dig up, stupid.

[unsunghero]

republic is not republican is not Republican

He’s confused because his use of the NOUN of Republican makes it sound like an adjective when it’s not, it’s a noun

I’m using a NOUN when I say Democrat media. I could say “Democratic media”, but that is more commonly used to describe the form of government of electing officials, which is why I choose to use the NOUN

Yet another example of public education’s failures

[Whale biologist]

He’s confused because his use of the NOUN of Republican makes it sound like an adjective when it’s not, it’s a noun

I’m using a NOUN when I say Democrat media. I could say “Democratic media”, but that is more commonly used to describe the form of government of electing officials, which is why I choose to use the NOUN

Yet another example of public education’s failures

"Democrat" describes the type of media in that usage, media is the noun. You're using it as an adjective, my good chum.

[unsunghero]

Dig up, stupid.

Highly recommend you get someone to proof read your resume in case you ever want to get a job. Highly recommend

[unsunghero]

"Democrat" describes the type of media in that usage, media is the noun. You're using it as an adjective, my good chum.

No because Democratic can also be used as an adjective for the Democratic Party. Look it up:

“adjective
relating to the Democratic Party.
"a Democratic fundraiser"

I’m specifically choosing to use it as a noun to avoid confusing it with the more common use of the term Democratic as a form of government

[Whale biologist]

No because Democratic can also be used as an adjective for the Democratic Party. Look it up:

“adjective
relating to the Democratic Party.
"a Democratic fundraiser"

I’m specifically choosing to use it as a noun to avoid confusing it with the more common use of the term Democratic as a form of government

Bully for you. :)

https://i.imgur.com/T47R7O6.jpg

[JurisDictum]

Republic is a bit of a distinction without a difference these days. Not a lot of old school monarchies around.

[Whale biologist]

Republic is a bit of a distinction without a difference these days. Not a lot of old school monarchies around.

shitload of constitutional monarchies though.

https://i.imgur.com/gFxsyWe.gif

[mcoy]

ITT: People hangry that it used to be known as the USSR and not the USSD.

-Mcoy

[unsunghero]

Bully for you. :)

https://i.imgur.com/T47R7O6.jpg

Trying to get my damn charting done here at work and respond to Horza’s stupid-ass accusations

Now I’m late leaving work, late getting home which means late taking my pre-workout which usually means shitty sleep

So in the end I guess Horza wins…

[imperiouskitten]

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[Patriam1066]

A Republican is commonly used as a noun, as in a person

Democratic is an adjective. Republicans also believe in the democratic process, it’s not like only the left believes in democracy

“Democracy is a form of government in which the people have the authority to deliberate and decide legislation, or to choose governing officials to do so”

Biden won dude, get over it redneck

[Elizondo]

Biden won dude, get over it redneck

Naw Man

Nobody really knows if Old Dude won legit. Maybe. Maybe not.

Maricopa Audit proved that

[Ooloo]

Imagine being happy that biden won. 22% approval rating on southern border situation. 38% approval overall. Not even a year into presidency.

Kamala appointed to handle border situation, conspicuously totally absent from the entire situation. This is a joke.

Again, he is worse than trump by every metric. Anyone happy about this is a partisan weirdo who cares more about dunking than what is actually good for our country.

[unsunghero]

Biden won dude, get over it redneck

I no rite

[Horza]

Imagine being happy that biden won. 22% approval rating on southern border situation. 38% approval overall. Not even a year into presidency.

Kamala appointed to handle border situation, conspicuously totally absent from the entire situation. This is a joke.

Again, he is worse than trump by every metric. Anyone happy about this is a partisan weirdo who cares more about dunking than what is actually good for our country.

https://i.imgur.com/grHuKxv.jpeg

[Elizondo]

https://i.imgur.com/grHuKxv.jpeg

I dunno man

Gas is 5 bucks a gallon right now. Low IQ memes don't make the price go down.

[JurisDictum]

Once this self-imposed oil shortage dissipates we'll be fine. Unfortunately, it can be very profitable when oil prices are high for many different parts of the economy -- so you get a lot of feet dragging.

The price of gas is all gouge at the end of the day. We could get it back to 50c a gallon again if it weren't for international cartels controlling the price.

In the meantime, it is a good opportunity to daytrade on GUSH + $5.40 (5.48%).

[Gatordash]

Once this self-imposed oil shortage dissipates we'll be fine. Unfortunately, it can be very profitable when oil prices are high for many different parts of the economy -- so you get a lot of feet dragging.

The price of gas is all gouge at the end of the day. We could get it back to 50c a gallon again if it weren't for international cartels controlling the price.

In the meantime, it is a good opportunity to daytrade on GUSH + $5.40 (5.48%).

Uh huh. Self imposed oil shortage. International cartels. Transitory inflation.

M1 (https://fred.stlouisfed.org/series/M1NS)

[JurisDictum]

Are you seriously suggesting that the dollar lost half its value, and that's why gas is double what it was?

[Tunabros]

how do i unsubscribe from a thread

[Gatordash]

Are you seriously suggesting that the dollar lost half its value, and that's why gas is double what it was?

No. You said, “Once this self-imposed oil shortage dissipates we'll be fine.”
So I decided to point out that you are a fucking idiot.

[starkind]

how do i unsubscribe from a thread

its in user cp somewhere

[Botten]

I dunno man

Gas is 5 bucks a gallon right now. Low IQ memes don't make the price go down.

"Analysts expect those prices to rise further through winter, when customers are most reliant on the fuel. The main reason natural gas prices have jumped is that demand for fuel has accelerated as economies have recovered from the damage caused by the pandemic. As alternative fuel, this is directly affect the price of gasoline."

[Whale biologist]

Are you seriously suggesting that the dollar lost half its value, and that's why gas is double what it was?

m1 measures liquidity not value lol

Gator trolling

[Toxigen]

is we getting stimmy check? (https://www.newsweek.com/fourth-stimulus-check-update-petition-monthly-2000-passes-29-million-signatures-1635025?fbclid=IwAR27Mzx198t-eIi4EIOAbMspL2SeM27npX_dV5cdM61-hxTJKZLEwIJ1xYU)

https://i.imgur.com/6gFm9w1.jpg

lmao

[Elizondo]

"Analysts expect those prices to rise further through winter, when customers are most reliant on the fuel. The main reason natural gas prices have jumped is that demand for fuel has accelerated as economies have recovered from the damage caused by the pandemic. As alternative fuel, this is directly affect the price of gasoline."

Bro you get that from a satire site?

Super Funny stuff

[Jibartik]

Coal last year 100$ a ton, today $300 a ton and not going down anytime soon.

Christmas is coming, so you can expect the gas/oil shortage to last through that as well.

Also we're anticipating a very cold winter so that will exacerbate both of these shortages.

There is no end in sight but the end of everything you know.

[Gatordash]

m1 measures liquidity not value lol

Gator trolling

You flood the market with liquidity and the prices of everything will come up eventually. Gas prices go up and down all the time so when they go back down next year its not solving any problems. Jobs report came out today and was under 200k so no taper yet meaning Powell is gonna keep printing.

[Jibartik]

haha going down next year, like the temperature? number of weather anomalies? global hostility? hahah guess again pals.

[walfreyydo]

Imagine being happy that biden won. 22% approval rating on southern border situation. 38% approval overall. Not even a year into presidency.

Kamala appointed to handle border situation, conspicuously totally absent from the entire situation. This is a joke.

Again, he is worse than trump by every metric. Anyone happy about this is a partisan weirdo who cares more about dunking than what is actually good for our country.

It wasnt Biden who won, it was democracy.

[Elizondo]

It wasnt Biden who won, it was democracy.

I dunno man

Old Dude wants to treat mom and dad like Osama Bin Laden. You sure about that?

[walfreyydo]

I dunno man

Gas is 5 bucks a gallon right now. Low IQ memes don't make the price go down.

Oh here we go the old "gas was cheaper under trump" argument.

That was because of covid for those non-critical thinkers out there. People drove less, demand went down, prices went down.

Economics 101. Stop repeating what you hear and think for yourself?

[Jibartik]

It wasnt Biden who won, it was democracy.

ieQTcg_V558

[Gatordash]

haha going down next year, like the temperature? number of weather anomalies? global hostility? hahah guess again pals.

Gas prices will go down next year. But Biden and Powell are keeping the Ponzi going and the longer they do the harder the crash is gonna be which you will enjoy.

[Horza]

It wasnt Biden who won, it was democracy.

That wasn't an attempted insurrection on Trump's behalf and those were just friendly tourists smashing a cop's head in a door.

[Jibartik]

gas prices next year:

https://i.imgur.com/2FFHaXD.png

[Elizondo]

Oh here we go the old "gas was cheaper under trump" argument.

That was because of covid for those non-critical thinkers out there. People drove less, demand went down, prices went down.

Economics 101. Stop repeating what you hear and think for yourself?

Bro gas was way cheaper before Covid under Orange Dude

Maybe you should take your own advice?

That wasn't an attempted insurrection on Trump's behalf and those were just friendly tourists smashing a cop's head in a door.

Hold on a minute. Didn't you hammer and sickle peeps say they killed people? Now one guy got his head clubbed and that's an insemurrection?

[Jibartik]

That wasn't an attempted insurrection on Trump's behalf and those were just friendly tourists smashing a cop's head in a door.

No they were just, MOSTLY friendly tourists.

[Horza]

Hold on a minute. Didn't you hammer and sickle peeps say they killed people? Now one guy got his head clubbed and that's an insemurrection?

No they were just, MOSTLY friendly tourists.

Republicans are the party of law and order except when they condone violence against police for political reasons.

[Elizondo]

gas prices next year:

https://i.imgur.com/2FFHaXD.png

Old Dude on his first day as prez shut down oil pipelines with a stroke of a pen. A lot of peeps lost their jobs and he's braggin about more peeps losin their jobs now cuz of his mandates

Then he begs the iron sheiks for oil after stopping us from makin our own, but low IQ peeps read on bluebird forums its supply and demand cuz of covid so Old Dude not responsible now

[booter]

imagine being one of the morons who year-after-year somehow links the price of gasoline to a presidential administration

[Elizondo]

Republicans are the party of law and order except when they condone violence against police for political reasons.

Naw man

Show me where it says that protests are supposed to be polite and peaceful

imagine being one of the morons who year-after-year somehow links the price of gasoline to a presidential administration

You seem like a good guy, but we only ever here this excuse for gas prices when a D in office cuz that's when it's 5 bucks a gallon

[Whale biologist]

ieQTcg_V558

LOL

sauce PLEASE!!!

[Jibartik]

Republicans are the party of law and order except when they condone violence against police for political reasons.

Im showing the same empathy I have always shown protestors from my (what used to be extremely left) position.

[Jibartik]

LOL

sauce PLEASE!!!

haha this guy is that Oregon sex cult leader! There's a show about them on netflix I think.

I'm pretty sure that cult disbanding is why Oregon is "weird" if you know what I mean. :p

[unsunghero]

That wasn't an attempted insurrection on Trump's behalf and those were just friendly tourists smashing a cop's head in a door.

Musta been hard to watch. I remember one like that. After a cop killed a guy I saw a vid of BLM beating an old woman with 2x4’s as she was trying to defend her shop

[unsunghero]

Musta been hard to watch. I remember one like that. After a cop killed a guy I saw a vid of BLM beating an old woman with 2x4’s as she was trying to defend her shop

Oh or another one of this white dude that tried to defend the store he worked at with a crossbow so a BLM mob stomped on his head until he was doing that death snore thing

Yknow that thing where you’re unconscious with head trauma but your brain stem is still telling your lungs to breathe so you make this loud snoring noise

[Horza]

Attorneys for Kyle Rittenhouse, who is charged with fatally shooting two people during a protest in Wisconsin last year, argue hunting laws allowed the teenager to carry the assault weapon used during the shootings. (https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/hunting-laws-allowed-kyle-rittenhouse-carry-weapon-during-fatal-shootings-n1280950)

[Jibartik]

Attorneys for Kyle Rittenhouse, who is charged with fatally shooting two people during a protest in Wisconsin last year, argue hunting laws allowed the teenager to carry the assault weapon used during the shootings. (https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/hunting-laws-allowed-kyle-rittenhouse-carry-weapon-during-fatal-shootings-n1280950)

Right now another attorney is arguing that kids should bring guns to school to protect themselves from bullying lol

Just accept where you live my guy.

[Horza]

Right now another attorney is arguing that kids should bring guns to school to protect themselves from bullying lol

Just accept where you live my guy.

lkG_nDoMT0M

[unsunghero]

Attorneys for Kyle Rittenhouse, who is charged with fatally shooting two people during a protest in Wisconsin last year, argue hunting laws allowed the teenager to carry the assault weapon used during the shootings. (https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/hunting-laws-allowed-kyle-rittenhouse-carry-weapon-during-fatal-shootings-n1280950)

I wonder if he’ll be able to get off on self defense considering the registered sex offender child molester he shot isn’t alive to testify

At least his sexual assault victim(s) who might have heard about him dying in the news could breathe a sigh of relief while the rest of the world weeps for him

[Whale biologist]

You flood the market with liquidity and the prices of everything will come up eventually. Gas prices go up and down all the time so when they go back down next year its not solving any problems. Jobs report came out today and was under 200k so no taper yet meaning Powell is gonna keep printing.

Liquidity can vary independent of extant holdings. Whoever sold you this basket of goods is a crook.

[Gatordash]

Liquidity can vary independent of extant holdings. Whoever sold you this basket of goods is a crook.

Printing and passing around exponentially large amounts of money is going to increase demand which will decrease supply which means prices will increase. This isn't advanced economics. And this isn't a small increase in liquidity.

[Jibartik]

lkG_nDoMT0M


Like a clever.. human being, who knows the woods.

3m_AfFK-A5s

[Mblake1981]

Like a clever.. human being, who knows the woods.

3m_AfFK-A5s

UE7YOJVSoIs

[Jibartik]

Liquidity can vary independent of extant holdings. Whoever sold you this basket of goods is a crook.

trickle down economics favors the rich

inflationary spending favors the rich

both not good!

let jesus take the wheel (plz come jesus save us jeeeebus)

[Whale biologist]

Printing and passing around exponentially large amounts of money is going to increase demand which will decrease supply which means prices will increase. This isn't advanced economics. And this isn't a small increase in liquidity.

A supply and demand argument where supply drives demand? Neato.

📷

[Horza]

I wonder if he’ll be able to get off on self defense considering the registered sex offender child molester he shot isn’t alive to testify

At least his sexual assault victim(s) who might have heard about him dying in the news could breathe a sigh of relief while the rest of the world weeps for him

https://i.imgur.com/rpTvr45.jpg

[Gatordash]

A supply and demand argument where supply drives demand? Neato.

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Yes if you give someone a bunch of money they are going to buy things with it. It would be nice if it went into a savings account or investment but our economy is run on debt cause people buy stuff. You are dumber than Juris.

[unsunghero]

https://i.imgur.com/rpTvr45.jpg

First George Floyd and then the registered sex offender

Why do senseless terrible things keep happening to good people?

Makes me start to believe there is no God :(

[Whale biologist]

Lincoln's pretender has a lot to say about 1/6 Commission (https://twitter.com/TheRickWilson/status/1446503202837442561)

[Horza]

First George Floyd and then the registered sex offender

Why do senseless terrible things keep happening to good people?

Makes me start to believe there is no God :(

Party of law and order celebrates extrajudicial killings of anyone who won't support their political platform.

[Elizondo]

Party of law and order celebrates extrajudicial killings of anyone who won't support their political platform.

I know right?

15921

[unsunghero]

Party of law and order celebrates extrajudicial killings of anyone who won't support their political platform.

I just said it was senseless and terrible?

I dunno how you feel about them, but they will forever be immortalized as heroes in my mind

[Ooloo]

Party of law and order celebrates extrajudicial killings of anyone who won't support their political platform.

Rittenhouse literally did nothing wrong.

Pro tip: Don't chase down and assault somebody who has a gun and is clearly retreating to avoid escalation. Throwing a skateboard at his head and trying to take his gun is *YOU* escalating, not him. He is perfectly within his rights to blow your psycho larping political revolutionary moron ass away.

[Elizondo]

Rittenhouse literally did nothing wrong.

Pro tip: Don't chase down and assault somebody who has a gun and is clearly retreating to avoid escalation. Throwing a skateboard at his head and trying to take his gun is *YOU* escalating, not him. He is perfectly within his rights to blow your psycho larping political revolutionary moron ass away.

Dude gets attacked by a child molester, blows him away and he's not a hero?

What low IQ chap thinks that

[Ooloo]

Heh I forgot about the child molester part.

I don't even have an opinion on rittenhouse outside of that incident, maybe he's an asshole irl. But the incident people refer to is clearly self defense, and to not understand that just shows how little people know about gun laws in the US, or the reasonable use of force to defend your life.

[Whale biologist]

Heh I forgot about the child molester part.

I don't even have an opinion on rittenhouse outside of that incident, maybe he's an asshole irl. But the incident people refer to is clearly self defense, and to not understand that just shows how little people know about gun laws in the US, or the reasonable use of force to defend your life.

Yes. Yes it does. 😆

[Whale biologist]

Better ask YouTube if bringing a rifle to a political protest nulls my duty to retreat 🤔

[JurisDictum]

Rightwing fiscal conservatism in the United States is more popular with men then women. There are all kinds of theories why. But I think it is obviously because they are less small minded about self-interest. People vote on their perception of self-interest in the end.

If you are Jeff Bezos, there is nothing particularly compelling about something like free education, healthcare, cheap housing any of that on the government dime. Making employment more streamlined from education institutions serves almost no purpose to a guy that has all the money and connections one could have.

His family -- those he cares about and his legacy of people not even born yet, none of them are going to need access to any of that. None of it is gonna help them. It is in Bezos interest 100% to oppose them. And he does.

However, consider some self-important jackass making good money. Here is the income spread for 2018:
2018 Annual Wages
Group Wages
Top 0.1% of Earners $2,808,104
Top 1% of Earners $737,697
Top 5% of Earners $309,348
Top 10% of Earners $158,002

While its clear that Bezos might not have any offspring that will need this for over a century in the future -- most of these guys can probably just give a decent ride for their kid maybe grand kids. Then it is all on them.

Shortly after they die, as economic conditions worsen for most classes and things like crisis become more common, its likely their offspring will not remain well-off for long. There is a lot of backsliding in income and lifestyle for every class of person below those top 3 lines or so. It will not become easier to climb economically, it will become more difficult.

The thinking is too short term to be in their class self-interest. Because they are class blind however, they fall for the rightwing brand scam (set up by billionaire Rupert Murdoch originally) and sell out their offspring's future for short term gain.

It's a pretty a contemptible lot. Like a couple fat fucking christian toads that just bought a huge RV but don't want to pay for their kids college. Or some dofus that spends all his cash on east Asian immigrant sex slave wives rather than leaving something for his grand kids.

Small people.

Women are more likely to correctly identify what is in the interest of their family moving forward.

[Elizondo]

Rightwing fiscal conservatism in the United States is more popular with men then women.

Bro you ever been married?

[Jibartik]

females are fiscal conservatives and social liberals because they spend all their man's money, who has some because he is an actual fiscal conservative.

:o

[Horza]

Females *beep boop*

[Jibartik]

Better ask YouTube if bringing a rifle to a political protest nulls my duty to retreat ��

Yeah bring the rifle, there maybe a bully. It's basic bully protection 101.

Bullying is an act of war on a 1:1 level, all bets are off if you've been bullied.

Important to note that if the bullying happened, bystanders are expendable.

[Gatordash]

Lets all send a big thank you to New York's Bill DeBlasio for putting an end to these racist asian & white 4 years olds who are segregating hispanic & black kids from accelerated kindergarten class. I'm sure the new class that is aimed to let everyone in will be just as good.

New York schools end gifted and talented program after years of opponents saying that it segregated students (https://www.fox5vegas.com/news/new-york-schools-end-gifted-and-talented-program-after-years-of-opponents-saying-that-it/article_dfcb86d4-e93f-51f1-a97b-a82992454f58.html)

[unsunghero]

Yeah bring the rifle, there maybe a bully. It's basic bully protection 101.

Bullying is an act of war on a 1:1 level, all bets are off if you've been bullied.

Important to note that if the bullying happened, bystanders are expendable.

Part of the reason I don't go to political rallies


However, when the shit does hit the fan....

[Botten]

Lets all send a big thank you to New York's Bill DeBlasio for putting an end to these racist asian & white 4 years olds who are segregating hispanic & black kids from accelerated kindergarten class. I'm sure the new class that is aimed to let everyone in will be just as good.

New York schools end gifted and talented program after years of opponents saying that it segregated students (https://www.fox5vegas.com/news/new-york-schools-end-gifted-and-talented-program-after-years-of-opponents-saying-that-it/article_dfcb86d4-e93f-51f1-a97b-a82992454f58.html)

Charter
Magnet
Gifted
Private

All a waste in my option if we put the money into our public schools it would have a much larger yield of education and a bigger push for safety (with more allocated money). Let the money go into Colleges and University if they want to specialize.

Had a pollster once ask me do you think tax payer money should be use on opening more specialize and chartered schools. When I said no she had a fit saying public schools have gone to garbage.

I told her the money should then go to the public schools to fix that.

Don't even think she recorded my vote and hung up the phone.

[Gatordash]

Charter
Magnet
Gifted
Private

All a waste in my option if we put the money into our public schools it would have a much larger yield of education and a bigger push for safety (with more allocated money). Let the money go into Colleges and University if they want to specialize.

Had a pollster once ask me do you think tax payer money should be use on opening more specialize and chartered schools. When I said no she had a fit saying public schools have gone to garbage.

I told her the money should then go to the public schools to fix that.

Don't even think she recorded my vote and hung up the phone.

I don't think throwing money at the problem is the answer if parents don't care about education.

Biden's nationwide pre-school would do way more for helping kids than throwing more money into public schools.

Adding an extended daycare program would be even better imo. And parents would be able to work/school longer hours so they could be more productive and it would take stress off family life.

But no, those idiots are just going to cut checks to people.

[unsunghero]

Charter
Magnet
Gifted
Private

All a waste in my option if we put the money into our public schools it would have a much larger yield of education and a bigger push for safety (with more allocated money). Let the money go into Colleges and University if they want to specialize.

Had a pollster once ask me do you think tax payer money should be use on opening more specialize and chartered schools. When I said no she had a fit saying public schools have gone to garbage.

I told her the money should then go to the public schools to fix that.

Don't even think she recorded my vote and hung up the phone.

I'd agree with this to some extent. However, I think just throwing money at a problem is a bit of a cop out. What exactly is the problem defined, what is the money going to go towards specifically, and are there ways to correct the problem that don't cost money? Those would be my questions

I think charter and private schools should exist as options for parents who want to be able to be able to have more choice in their kid's schooling, and can't homeschool due to logistics (have to work, etc)

I also think there should be more BOARDING SCHOOLS. Let me say from working in mental health with problem kids and teens for 14 years, attendance is a huge issue for many families, becoming more of an issue every year, and some things the schools are doing would surprise most people

I don't think most people realize that even though a kid not legally allowed to drop out of school until age 16, they can essentially outsmart the entire system by just still completely refusing to go to school pre-16. Become dead weight so your parent can't drag you, ignore their consequences in home (all they can do is take all your stuff away, and many parents are too soft to even do this), and the school will do jack shit to help the parent. I mean literally nothing. In addition to this, to meet their quota of graduates, the school will push kids on to the next grade who are failing ALL their classes, kids who have missed 30+ days of school in a single semester. I'm not kidding, schools do nothing to help parents who have a kid refusing to go to school and they care not one iota that a kid is not getting educated. All they care about is that their numbers fall within an acceptable range

So the legal system steps in. A parent will be charged a misdemeanor charge if their child under the age of 16 has missed a certain number of school days without a valid medical reason. That parent will be given a court date and then, possibly, the judge will create a deferment program. I don't know how this always plays out, but one would hope the parent is eventually given the option to send their child to a boarding school. For kids with extreme defiant behaviors, the ONLY way you are going to get them to be educated is to make them live and sleep at their school

Oh and kids in specialized public school classrooms for having an IEP due to ED (emotional disabilities, NOT learning disabilities) are often not being educated. They are being essentially babysat. These kids are often just babysat all day and pushed onto the next grade due to quotas, to eventually become non-functional adults

I might be jaded because I see only the worst kids all day at work, but attendance /truancy to me seems to be a big problem that schools seem to give zero shits about

Oh and being allowed to drop out at 16 sucks. I never ever mention this to kids I see at work, don't even want to put that idea in their head

[Gravydoo II]

How about that jan 6th riot??

We still calling it a tour group that got out of hand?

Steve bannon is running from the american people. I wonder why he doesnt want to show up before congress.

[JurisDictum]

I see charter schools as a great example of something that is a perfectly good idea on an individual level. But its a terrible macro trend. Its like a big white flag for the public school system. It's a sign that eventually you wont be able to make a public education work at all for college-going kids, and they will come exclusively from the ranks of charter and private schools.

Charter schools seem to amount to a kind of parental selection process. Certain kids are filtered out -- the ones with severe mental or behavioral problems. Nevertheless, most the selection is done at the parent level. There is a certain amount of hoops to jump through and commitments to make -- this filters out dysfunctional and overwhelmed parents. It also ensures they are engaged with their education to some extent.

Wouldn't you know it -- they tend to out perform public schools. Now they are all over the damn place because its a good business model. The model is to get young teachers that can't get a good job in the public school system yet. They are passionate at this phase of their career and will put up with terrible work conditions so they can help kids.

Where does that money saved go? Well as much as possible goes to the private owners of the institution. Unfortunately, some has to go to the kids to make the school look better than the public one down the street. But as the public system deteriorates, that amount of overhead should shrink.

[Horza]

Republican congressman and white supremacist Paul Gosar just posted the cringest thing I've ever seen. (https://twitter.com/RepGosar/status/1446298292309176325)

[Jibartik]

public schools dont work anymore because people would rather cut the kid in half than let a person teach them that disagrees with them about social politics.

[Gatordash]

Republican congressman and white supremacist Paul Gosar just posted the cringest thing I've ever seen. (https://twitter.com/RepGosar/status/1446298292309176325)

Didn't turn the volume on but seemed like a pretty standard political ad to me. The banner on his twitter profile of Trump is cringey though.

[starkind]

back in the day they tought me all kindsa dumb shit i didn't and still dont' agree with

get over it ya fucks and use that knowledge that is useful to improve your station and put a boot on their neks

i mean

enlighten your fellow man by example :p

[Horza]

Didn't turn the volume on but seemed like a pretty standard political ad to me. The banner on his twitter profile of Trump is cringey though.

On what planet is your typical political ad full of dated 4chan imagery?

[Gatordash]

On what planet is your typical political ad full of dated 4chan imagery?

He's relating to the kids.

[Horza]

He's relating to the kids.

So the answer is none.

[Ooloo]

Better ask YouTube if bringing a rifle to a political protest nulls my duty to retreat 🤔

It's called state law. He was not breaking any law by open carrying a rifle. Also one of the guys who attacked him also had a gun, and tried to shoot him. He was one of the guys who was shot by rittenhouse in clear self defense. So, apparently that guy brought a gun to a political protest also?

Rittenhouse was defending innocent people's property and putting out fires. It's not "vigilantism" when he wasn't doing anything illegal.

Throwing a skateboard at somebody's head, as it turns out, is illegal! Especially when they are clearly running away, to avoid conflict. The actions of the individuals who were shot are what caused their deaths, but I know it's very uncomfortable to admit that.

"Hey, why did you shoot me, cop?? All I did was reach into my car for a knife after my ex girlfriend who had a legal restraining order against me called 911 after I showed up at her house and tried to abduct her kids!"

That's what the kenosha "justified riots" were over, btw. Very morally grounded people out there.

[Gatordash]

So the answer is none.

AOC was on twitch a few months ago.

[Horza]

AOC was on twitch a few months ago.

Posting right-wing doomer memes? Shit's undeniably cringe.

[Ooloo]

Posting right-wing doomer memes? Shit's undeniably cringe.

No she mostly posts retarded utopian idealistic far left memes. Her political acumen is that of a 16 year old highschool student who thinks flying to africa once every four years to hand out shitty food to starving kids makes her a saint.

She is richer than anyone she claims to be fighting for, while bemoaning "the rich". You might call that blatant hypocrisy, or possibly cringe.

[unsunghero]

Posting right-wing doomer memes? Shit's undeniably cringe.

She’s undeniably hot. And her husband looks like a doofus if I recall. I think I only saw a pic of him once tho

[Whale biologist]

I don't think throwing money at the problem is the answer if parents don't care about education.

Biden's nationwide pre-school would do way more for helping kids than throwing more money into public schools.

Adding an extended daycare program would be even better imo. And parents would be able to work/school longer hours so they could be more productive and it would take stress off family life.

But no, those idiots are just going to cut checks to people.

Universal pre-K was in one of the bills.

Jayapal is a no good donkey witch.

[unsunghero]

You know who’s also hot? That ESPN host Sage Steel who got suspended for saying she had questions about the vaccine and wondering why Obama picked “Black” on the census when he’s bi-racial and his black father bailed on him and he was raised by his white mother. Sage then mentioned that she is bi-racial with a black father and white mother and picks “bi-racial” on the census

That hot AND a white supremacist? Yes plz

[Gatordash]

Trump suggests Haitian migrants heading for US ‘probably have AIDS’ (https://nypost.com/2021/10/08/trump-suggests-haitian-migrants-heading-for-us-border-probably-have-aids/)

If Saturday Night Live could write this good they wouldn't have had their lowest premiere rating in their 47 year history (https://www.avclub.com/last-weekends-saturday-night-live-premiere-makes-histor-1847808865) last week.

The news needs Trump back.

[Whale biologist]

Republican congressman and white supremacist Paul Gosar just posted the cringest thing I've ever seen. (https://twitter.com/RepGosar/status/1446298292309176325)

3tnH8CbN5p4

Same song.

Same energy?

[Whale biologist]

It's called state law. He was not breaking any law by open carrying a rifle. Also one of the guys who attacked him also had a gun, and tried to shoot him. He was one of the guys who was shot by rittenhouse in clear self defense. So, apparently that guy brought a gun to a political protest also?

Rittenhouse was defending innocent people's property and putting out fires. It's not "vigilantism" when he wasn't doing anything illegal.

Throwing a skateboard at somebody's head, as it turns out, is illegal! Especially when they are clearly running away, to avoid conflict. The actions of the individuals who were shot are what caused their deaths, but I know it's very uncomfortable to admit that.

"Hey, why did you shoot me, cop?? All I did was reach into my car for a knife after my ex girlfriend who had a legal restraining order against me called 911 after I showed up at her house and tried to abduct her kids!"

That's what the kenosha "justified riots" were over, btw. Very morally grounded people out there.

Let's just start with carrying a rifle while underage. No amount of self defense mindless flimflammery will address that. And no, the judge already tossed the "short barrel" defense.

Your misbegotten hero is doing time. 🇺🇲

[Elizondo]

No she mostly posts retarded utopian idealistic far left memes. Her political acumen is that of a 16 year old highschool student who thinks flying to africa once every four years to hand out shitty food to starving kids makes her a saint.

She is richer than anyone she claims to be fighting for, while bemoaning "the rich". You might call that blatant hypocrisy, or possibly cringe.

I was at a bar once and she made me a White Russian

Was aight

[Horza]

You know who’s also hot? That ESPN host Sage Steel who got suspended for saying she had questions about the vaccine and wondering why Obama picked “Black” on the census when he’s bi-racial and his black father bailed on him and he was raised by his white mother. Sage then mentioned that she is bi-racial with a black father and white mother and picks “bi-racial” on the census

That hot AND a white supremacist? Yes plz

DCkJ5lGPqFs

[unsunghero]

DCkJ5lGPqFs

Sorry, were you feeling left out?

I got someone who’ll tickle your fancy

[Whale biologist]

Checked the feed, Jon Gruden is cancelled I guess

FOOTBAW

[Gatordash]

Checked the feed, Jon Gruden is cancelled I guess

FOOTBAW

What a comment and what a spinzone. He must pay his PR team well.

[Jibartik]

Donald Trump abuses his position of power to allow friends cut the line and get the care that regular citizens deserve.

rLC0ZxVO-go

[JurisDictum]

Remember when high gas prices were “Obama’s fault?” (https://whyy.org/articles/remember-when-high-gas-prices-were-qobamas-faultq/)
...
Mitt Romney said “the doubling of gasoline prices obviously follows a presidential policy.” He said Obama deserves blame “for what’s happened to gasoline prices under his watch.”

The Republican National Committee blamed the high pump prices on “the Obama economy.”

Senator John Barrasso of Wyoming said that Obama should be held “fully responsible for what the American public is paying for gasoline.”

Paul Ryan, the veep candidate, said that Obama was going “to great lengths to make gas more expensive.”

Rick Santorum said that Obama and his liberal wonks caused the pump price to rise because “they want higher energy prices. They want to push their radical agenda on the public.”

And so on. They basically argued that Obama, his environmentalist allies, and his energy advisers were conspiring, via socialist engineering, to make gas so expensive that motorists would drive less. Supposedly, Obama was jonesing for $10 gas so that we would be “more like Europe” – and that the price spike in 2012 was just his opening act.

Gee. How come they’re not admitting, three years later, that they were dead wrong?

I’m not saying that Obama deserves major credit for the currently falling pump price. The truth, as any graduate of Economics 101 well knows, is that presidents are largely bystanders. The pump price is tied to oil prices on the world market, and those oil prices fluctuate according to supply and demand. Lately, we’ve seen a big spike in supply (including a rebound of drilling in Libya and a shale-oil boom in America), coupled with dampened global demand (economic slowdowns in Europe and China). The result, in America, is that the average gallon is now nearly a buck less than a year ago.

Sometimes old news can inform us about the present. As the saying goes: "Those who don't know history are destined to repeat it."

[Botten]

Donald Trump abuses his position of power to allow friends cut the line and get the care that regular citizens deserve.



Ted Cruz said that school shootings take place because we removed God from the public square.

Texas is 93% Christian and has a fatal school shooting every year.

Japan is 2% Christian and has never had a school shooting.

I am sorry Biden tried to help a sick friend and called ahead and wtf I can’t focus after hearing one of the worst Republican Theories ever.

[Jibartik]

What does ted cruiz have to do with anything?

Screw anyone who thinks the rich, especially a politician, ESPECIALLY the president, E S P E C I A L L Y the democrat president....

Should use their position and power to cut the line.

I will fight anyone who says otherwise.

Pardoning all your cronies was one thing, this is literally taking from people's mouths'.

[Horza]

Pardoning all your cronies was one thing

https://i.imgur.com/Dy1B20d.jpeg

[Jibartik]

https://i.imgur.com/lAJqs7g.png

[unsunghero]

https://i.imgur.com/Dy1B20d.jpeg

[Horza]

Did you get that cringe meme from Rep. Gosar's feed?

[unsunghero]

Did you get that cringe meme from Rep. Gosar's feed?

No but that’s hilarious if he’s using memes. I’ll have to check it out and see if I like any

[Jibartik]

Dystopia is the president saying he makes late night phone calls to get his friends out of pickles.

[JurisDictum]

I am appalled and shocked that a man in power tried to get his friend out of trouble. I had no idea stuff like this was going on. I guess not everyone can be as stalwart and uncorruptible as Donald Trump.

[Botten]

Dystopia is the president saying he makes late night phone calls to get his friends out of pickles.

I will take your Biden’s one favor requesting a hospital bed for a friend; effecting the life of another and raise you 100 err I mean 400 hospitals lives effected by a President’s requested “favor.”

“President Trump says we will get 100 as a courtesy to Senator Gardner. That means, because the president is playing politics with public health, we’re still 400 ventilators short from what we should have received,” DeGette said in a statement Wednesday. Trump’s “mismanagement of this crisis is costing lives and livelihoods.”

https://www.huffpost.com/entry/trump-cory-gardner-colorado-ventilations-gop-favor_n_5e8fde1ec5b6d641a6bc610d?jpo

[Whale biologist]

Dystopia is the president saying he makes late night phone calls to get his friends out of pickles.

It's not like it was a secret. He stated it himself and thought it was a good idea, to show his efforts in addressing the ER/ICU capacity issues we're facing.

It ain't Joe's fault you monkes choose to belligerently misunderstand.

[Mblake1981]

It ain't Joe's fault you monkes choose to belligerently misunderstand.

You bloody muff.

[Elizondo]

I will take your Biden’s one favor requesting a hospital bed for a friend; effecting the life of another and raise you 100 err I mean 400 hospitals lives effected by a President’s requested “favor.”

“President Trump says we will get 100 as a courtesy to Senator Gardner. That means, because the president is playing politics with public health, we’re still 400 ventilators short from what we should have received,” DeGette said in a statement Wednesday. Trump’s “mismanagement of this crisis is costing lives and livelihoods.”

https://www.huffpost.com/entry/trump-cory-gardner-colorado-ventilations-gop-favor_n_5e8fde1ec5b6d641a6bc610d?jpo

Huffpost is fake news tho

[Ooloo]

Haha why the fuck are we still talking about trump and ventilators? Huffpost? Barf. There was a surplus of ventilators, most of those ordered weren't even used, because they turned out to not even be a good treatment. Just putting patients on their bellies was far more effective. They just couldn't resist a quote as juicy as "Trump is COSTING LIVES arghh!!". No he wasn't, shut up.

But I know, trump so bad!! Must... keep.... talking about..... orangeman. Biden good! I swear! I'm not sure how, but he's good!

[bubur]

every once in a while i check back here and hope this thread has made it to the second page

when it does, i will look up a youtube video on how to pop a champagne bottle

it's been months

[Ooloo]

Biden is objectively putting far more lives at risk than trump ever did with regard to covid, considering they aren't even requiring that the *hundreds of thousands* of migrants illegally flooding accross the southern border be tested for covid. They're only testing people who seem to obviously be sick. Nevermind vaccines, they aren't even requiring those. But if you're a healthy american and maybe have reasonable questions about the safety profile of the vaccine you are the SCUM OF THE EARTH and should be SPAT UPON. The modern left is so fuckin backward it's astounding sometimes.

[Ooloo]

every once in a while i check back here and hope this thread has made it to the second page

when it does, i will look up a youtube video on how to pop a champagne bottle

it's been months

Great post doofus. Show us how to politics better, we are doing it all wrong, unlike bubur here.

[Jibartik]

It's not like it was a secret. He stated it himself and thought it was a good idea, to show his efforts in addressing the ER/ICU capacity issues we're facing.

It ain't Joe's fault you monkes choose to belligerently misunderstand.

Not only is what he did outrageously offensive and immoral and should piss off every single person on these forums the fact that he was so stupid that he just thought he could say that is just another example of him being an asshole!

What other kind of favors does this guy call in at midnight I’m positive that he called in favors to Ukraine to help out his little boy this corrupt abuser of power is probably on the phone in the Oval Office trying to sell his kids paintings.

I can’t stand that we can’t complain about our government anymore because we’re so afraid of Trump I am so sick and tired of this crap!

The entirety of the United States is either Trump or not Trump nothing else matters. And all of this is because of the left none of it is because of Trump or his supporters.

[Whale biologist]

Not only is what he did outrageously offensive and immoral and should piss off every single person on these forums the fact that he was so stupid that he just thought he could say that is just another example of him being an asshole!

What other kind of favors does this guy call in at midnight I’m positive that he called in favors to Ukraine to help out his little boy this corrupt abuser of power is probably on the phone in the Oval Office trying to sell his kids paintings.

I can’t stand that we can’t complain about our government anymore because we’re so afraid of Trump I am so sick and tired of this crap!

The entirety of the United States is either Trump or not Trump nothing else matters. And all of this is because of the left none of it is because of Trump or his supporters.

How dare Biden take the opportunity to get a groundlevel view of the Covid situation patients and staff are facing at our nations hospitals!

This is the biggest scandal since Hillary's emails Hunter's laptop Obama's tan suit!

[Jibartik]

How dare Biden take the opportunity to get a groundlevel view of the Covid situation patients and staff are facing at our nations hospitals!

This is the biggest scandal since Hillary's emails Hunter's laptop Obama's tan suit!

Stop normalizing putting his friends ahead of the line by saying he’s getting a ground view stop it whale stop it! I know you’re being sarcastic but this is just insane to me INSANE!

This is literally what we say Socialism becomes communism this is the canary in the coal mine that destroys all hope for democratic Socialism all hope.

There is no such thing as Socialism because before we can even start to have it the side that’s trying to make it is already going full communism.

[Elizondo]

You think everybody except Tucker Carlson is fake news, Nirgon.

Huffpost is fake news tho. Everybody knows that.

[Jibartik]

Communism is Democratic Socialism where the politicians call the hospitals to have their friends cut the lines.

[Whale biologist]

Stop normalizing putting his friends ahead of the line by saying he’s getting a ground view stop it whale stop it! I know you’re being sarcastic but this is just insane to me INSANE!

This is literally what we say Socialism becomes communism this is the canary in the coal mine that destroys all hope for democratic Socialism all hope.

There is no such thing as Socialism because before we can even start to have it the side that’s trying to make it is already going full communism.

What line? Why is there a line? Are lines good?

I think we agree, POTUS' actions were heroic. The question is, why were they necessary?

[Horza]

This is literally what we say Socialism becomes communism this is the canary in the coal mine that destroys all hope for democratic Socialism all hope.

There is no such thing as Socialism because before we can even start to have it the side that’s trying to make it is already going full communism.

Socialism is only a bad word to people like yourself parroting Fox News though.

[Whale biologist]

to have their friends cut the lines.

I think he has Hunter for that purposes.

*bIg SNifF*

[Jibartik]

What line? Why is there a line? Are lines good?

I think we agree, POTUS' actions were heroic. The question is, why were they necessary?

he literally said that his friend couldn't get in because it was too crowded, and he had to call and argue with the head of the hospital to get his friends to cut the line.

The IDIOT was trying to be like, "I have anecdotal evidence that the hospitals are crowded, so I had to abuse m power to get my friends to cut the line"

This is why communisms fails, because you put people this stupid in positions where they can do these corrupt things.

[Elizondo]

Socialism is only a bad word to people like yourself parroting Fox News though.

Naw man

Socialism is terrible. Only low IQ peeps think it's good.

[Whale biologist]

he literally said that his friend couldn't get in because it was too crowded, and he had to call and argue with the head of the hospital to get his friends to cut the line.

The IDIOT was trying to be like, "I have anecdotal evidence that the hospitals are crowded, so I had to abuse m power to get my friends to cut the line"

This is why communisms fails, because you put people this stupid in positions where they can do these corrupt things and then brag about it because they forgot to keep their mouth shut.

So your problem is Biden making a phonecall, not the hospitals being overwhelmed?

Priorities, man.

[Jibartik]

Socialism is only a bad word to people like yourself parroting Fox News though.

Communism is Socialism where the politicians call the hospitals to have their friends cut the lines.

[Jibartik]

So your problem is Biden making a phonecall, not the hospitals being overwhelmed?

Priorities, man.

Yeah absolutely my problem is because:

Communism is Democratic Socialism where the politicians call the hospitals to have their friends cut the lines.

Are you trying to tell me my priorities should be: I shouldn't care about crime, because there is such thing as sadness?

Ok COMMIE

[pink grapefruit]

Communism is Socialism where the politicians call the hospitals to have their friends cut the lines.

https://i.imgur.com/PhuTLXF.png

[Whale biologist]

Yeah absolutely my problem is because:

Communism is Democratic Socialism where the politicians call the hospitals to have their friends cut the lines.

Are you trying to tell me my priorities should be: I shouldn't care about crime and immorality, because there is such thing as starvation?

Ok COMMIE

Hooting about ideology while seniors drop like flies.

Whew!

[Jibartik]

Hooting about ideology while seniors drop like flies.

Whew!

Youre the one hooting about idiology!

"the hospitals shouldnt be full! Nobody should be sick!"

"this guy is using his political position to cut ahead of poor people"

"DONT BRING THAT UP! Nobody should be sick!"

[Whale biologist]

Youre the one hooting about idiology!

"the hospitals shouldnt be full! Nobody should be sick!"

"this guy is using his political position to cut ahead of poor people"

"DONT BRING THAT UP! Nobody should be sick!"

What ideology did I mention? I don't follow

[Elizondo]

https://i.imgur.com/PhuTLXF.png

I dunno if you want to use that dude as an example

They prolly grew some good weed to keep everybody high so they wouldn't think about bein a slave too much, but that same dude used brawndo tryin to grow food and it didn't go so well

[Horza]

Naw man

Socialism is terrible. Only low IQ peeps think it's good.

Sorry, Nirgon.

Young adults’ perceptions of capitalism have been the real driver of topline change in the past two years. Today, 18-34 year-olds are almost evenly split between those who view capitalism positively and those who view it negatively (49% vs. 46%). Two years ago, that margin was a gaping 20 points (58% vs. 38%). (https://www.surveymonkey.com/curiosity/axios-capitalism-update/)

[Jibartik]

What ideology did I mention? I don't follow

that hospitals shouldn't be full!

Im saying regardless of capacity, the politicians calling to have their friends cut the line is literally why the soviet union collapsed.

regardless of that, it is immoral and probably illegal. (how is it not illegal??) How is it not illegal to be the president call and pressure someone to have your friends get advantages over citizens??

[Whale biologist]

that hospitals shouldn't be full!

Im saying regardless of capacity, the politicians calling to have their friends cut the line is literally why the soviet union collapsed.

Why the hell would you want hospitals to be full? People get hurt or fall ill all the time.

Rob from the reaper at every opportunity, imo.

[Jibartik]

Why the hell would you want

The thing that drives me crazy is I know you agree with me. :mad:

[Elizondo]

Sorry, Nirgon.

Young adults’ perceptions of capitalism have been the real driver of topline change in the past two years. Today, 18-34 year-olds are almost evenly split between those who view capitalism positively and those who view it negatively (49% vs. 46%). Two years ago, that margin was a gaping 20 points (58% vs. 38%). (https://www.surveymonkey.com/curiosity/axios-capitalism-update/)

Naw dude

Polls don't mean it's good. Just that hammer and sickle ganda in schools foolin kids

If socialism is so awesome Cuba and Venezuela would be like free disneyland IRL

[Horza]

The thing that drives me crazy is I know you agree with me. :mad:

Everyone secretly loves your rape daddy and Red Scare rhetoric copied from Tucker Carlson's show?

[Whale biologist]

The thing that drives me crazy is I know you agree with me. :mad:

You're a good sport and you are my friend. :)

[Jibartik]

hehe :p

Joe biden bad!

[Jibartik]

My friend couldn't get shoes. I had to call the shoe factory and have them send shoes directly to my friend because you have made it so there are no shoes. I am the shoe regulator.

idb_qsAAe1c

[Elizondo]

My friend couldn't get shoes. I had to call the shoe factory and have them send shoes directly to my friend because you have made it so there are no shoes. I am the shoe regulator.

idb_qsAAe1c

Yea but they grew good weed and kids think it's cool so it's all good

[Jibartik]

https://i.imgur.com/amC48gS.png

[Horza]

Yea but they grew good weed and kids think it's cool so it's all good

You tell those gosh darn whippersnappers, Nirgon.

[JurisDictum]

Yea but they grew good weed and kids think it's cool so it's all good

Well obviously the dude was blinded by his commitment to socialism and the betterment of all people.

It's too bad he didn't have more self-interested capitalist values -- like doing whats best for you on a personal financial level. That probably would have saved chernobyl.

[Elizondo]

Well obviously the dude was blinded by his commitment to socialism and the betterment of all people.

It's too bad he didn't have more self-interested capitalist values -- like doing whats best for you on a personal financial level. That probably would have saved chernobyl.

I dunno man

Greed has done lot more for the betterment of people's lives than socialism

[JurisDictum]

I dunno man

Greed has done lot more for the betterment of people's lives than socialism

Strange how it failed us here then.

[Elizondo]

Strange how it failed us here then.

Naw man

Hasn't failed at all. Hope you cheer up. It's a beautiful day outside.

[Ooloo]

Socialism only works on paper because you're assuming you care about strangers as much as you care about your own (friends, family). This is fundamentally opposed to human nature. It's appealing in a utopian sense, but never ever works out on large scales because human nature is not so simple.

The self-interested nature of capitalism incentivizes people to produce goods and services for the betterment of the broadest group possible, because the producer wants to make as much money as possible. It may seem greedy, and in many cases it is, but the net result is that more people have more access to more things. Hence, the United States is the most productive, prosperous, abundant and most importantly *generous* nation in world history. We directly subsidize the military of dozens of countries, we provide humanitarian aid in the billions to dozens of countries, all while being spat upon for our terrible greed.

You need to think outside of black and white notions of "utopia good" and understand what actually works and what doesn't.

[Whale biologist]

Socialism only works on paper because you're assuming you care about strangers as much as you care about your own (friends, family). This is fundamentally opposed to human nature. It's appealing in a utopian sense, but never ever works out on large scales because human nature is not so simple.

The self-interested nature of capitalism incentivizes people to produce goods and services for the betterment of the broadest group possible, because the producer wants to make as much money as possible. It may seem greedy, and in many cases it is, but the net result is that more people have more access to more things. Hence, the United States is the most productive, prosperous, abundant and most importantly *generous* nation in world history. We directly subsidize the military of dozens of countries, we provide humanitarian aid in the billions to dozens of countries, all while being spat upon for our terrible greed.

You need to think outside of black and white notions of "utopia good" and understand what actually works and what doesn't.

This America of your imagination sounds like a capitalist utopia, friend. :p

[Ooloo]

This America of your imagination sounds like a capitalist utopia, friend. :p

Cool non-answer. What part of it is wrong?

I'm simply reporting world history for the last 100 years, friend.

Which socialist or communist nation is providing military and humanitarian aid in the billions to other allied nations? Like, all you have to do is name one.

[JurisDictum]

Here's a philosophical question for the board at large:

Do you deserve wealth that is inherited?

Not legally. Obviously its legal and should remain so for the foreseeable future.

But in a cosmic "whats right" sort of sense. Can it be justified as a fair thing and not merely a practical thing.

[Whale biologist]

Cool non-answer. What part of it is wrong?

I'm simply reporting world history for the last 100 years, friend.

Which socialist or communist nation is providing military and humanitarian aid in the billions to other allied nations? Like, all you have to do is name one.

I don't think I need to answer your deformed utopian propagandizing?

[Elizondo]

Here's a philosophical question for the board at large:

Do you deserve wealth that is inherited?

Not legally. Obviously its legal and should remain so for the foreseeable future.

But in a cosmic "whats right" sort of sense. Can it be justified as a fair thing and not merely a practical thing.

If a man builds a house with his bare hands does his family have a right to live in it?

[JurisDictum]

The self-interested nature of capitalism incentivizes people to produce goods and services for the betterment of the broadest group possible, because the producer wants to make as much money as possible. It may seem greedy, and in many cases it is, but the net result is that more people have more access to more things. Hence, the United States is the most productive, prosperous, abundant and most importantly *generous* nation in world history. We directly subsidize the military of dozens of countries, we provide humanitarian aid in the billions to dozens of countries, all while being spat upon for our terrible greed.

You need to think outside of black and white notions of "utopia good" and understand what actually works and what doesn't.

How do we know capitalism is the big reason for the success of the United States -- and not the giant military you referenced?

Given that every single country in existence is capitalist to some extent these days, why is America more economically powerful than the rest of them?

[Whale biologist]

But my friend, this is the least rotten apple of the whole bushel!

You must bow down in worship to this perfect apple.

[starkind]

Pleasent reminder to laugh today:

https://i.imgur.com/lYcfH58.gif

Clik it if it doesn't animate.

[JurisDictum]

If a man builds a house with his bare hands does his family have a right to live in it?

Traditionally speaking, no. Whoever owned the home would get to decide who lives in it. Assuming he owned the home, it would be his right to allow his family to live there. Only if he dies and leaves the house to his family will they then have the right to the house.

[Whale biologist]

Traditionally speaking, no. Whoever owned the home would get to decide who lives in it. Assuming he owned the home, it would be his right to allow his family to live there. Only if he dies and leaves the house to his family will they then have the right to the house.

At which time, it is a realized economic gain for the inheritor(s) and such are the consequences. /nods

[Ooloo]

Here's a philosophical question for the board at large:

Do you deserve wealth that is inherited?

Not legally. Obviously its legal and should remain so for the foreseeable future.

But in a cosmic "whats right" sort of sense. Can it be justified as a fair thing and not merely a practical thing.

Obviously yes, it is right and just.

What is the alternative? The wealth that somebody earned shouldn't be theirs to distribute as they see fit? You should instead have some totally unearned right to steal it from them and distribute it as *you* see fit? How is that justice?

[Elizondo]

Traditionally speaking, no. Whoever owned the home would get to decide who lives in it. Assuming he owned the home, it would be his right to allow his family to live there. Only if he dies and leaves the house to his family will they then have the right to the house.

Bro, step back from over philosophizin a bit

It's called a metaphor

[starkind]

I think you should only have as much wealth as you can personally hold on to at any time and that the state should probably not protect the assets of big multinational firms. Intellectual or otherwise. Nor take wealth from others. Nor protect your wealth, especially once it reaches beyond your capability or capacity.

A big part of the problem is wealthy people controlling poor through business. Lobbies. Regulation. And straight up being able to leverage millions as soon as someone becomes competitive. Same reasons healthcare sucks in this country. It's protectionism and a racket. Enforced by the ATF, DEA, FBI, CIA, FDA, and USDA.

Shut it down.

https://i.imgur.com/iNsGqy6.gif

[Jibartik]

capitalism is the exact same as communism, because im pissed joe biden called in a favor to cut in line using his position of power the same way I would be if a rich guy payed to cut in line using money.

[starkind]

Pleasent reminder to laugh today:

https://i.imgur.com/lYcfH58.gif

Clik it if it doesn't animate.

Psa still relevant.

[starkind]

capitalism is the exact same as communism, because im pissed joe biden called in a favor to cut in line using his position of power the same way I would be if a rich guy payed to cut in line using money.

If ppl could get their ass wupped for cutting that'd be a start.

I'm not talking about murder or permanent injury. Just a lesson with a lil something to remind folks to be orderly for a few days.

[Whale biologist]

If ppl could get their ass wupped for cutting that'd be a start.

I'm not talking about murder or permanent injury. Just a lesson with a lil something to remind folks to be orderly for a few days.

as a Lib, I fully support Presidential floggings.

Starting with Mr Trump.

[Jibartik]

If ppl could get their ass wupped for cutting that'd be a start.

I'm not talking about murder or permanent injury. Just a lesson with a lil something to remind folks to be orderly for a few days.

Sometimes I wonder if we're going to start seeing vigilantes like this I feel like that used to be ludacris but today the way things are I could totally see this being like, a thing.

Like places like san francisco Im shocked nobody came out as a super hero during the pandemic with all the petty crime.

9IdM84YVmV0

[Ooloo]

The only moral argument against inheritance is if your great grandparents were slave owners. However, the vast majority of wealthy families were never slave owners, even in the south. Furthermore, billions have already been spent on social and economic programs to uplift black american families and black entrepreneurship as a direct redress of slavery.

So no there is no coherent argument against inheritance outside of very specific, rare circumstances. The son should not be responsible for the sins of the father anyway, unless you're some kind of religious nutjob.

[JurisDictum]

One of the things that happens inevitably under capitalism that a handful of companies take over their various sectors. This gives them market power to control different dynamics of that sector.

So, for example, Amazon controls most warehouses. Along with a few other big corporations like Walmart and Kroger. This means they don't have to pay $50 an hour for people to work their ass off. They can do the same for $20, because good luck finding a $50 warehouse job when the few big players agreed $20 is all they are gonna pay.

But that happens. Without government. Most of what Walmart and Amazon did with the government, is convince them to stay out of their way. They wanted preferential tax treatment which would be largely unnecessary in a purely capitalist system.

The other thing that happens is those industries corrupt and buy out regulators. That is part of humanity in general, it happens in every kind of system that has been tried at any significant level.

[Whale biologist]

The only moral argument against inheritance is if your great grandparents were slave owners. However, the vast majority of wealthy families were never slave owners, even in the south. Furthermore, billions have already been spent on social and economic programs to uplift black american families and black entrepreneurship as a direct redress of slavery.

So no there is no coherent argument against inheritance outside of very specific, rare circumstances. The son should not be responsible for the sins of the father anyway, unless you're some kind of religious nutjob.

>moral

>religious nutjob

Pick a lane you dullard.

[Jibartik]

The only moral argument against inheritance is if your great grandparents were slave owners. However, the vast majority of wealthy families were never slave owners, even in the south. Furthermore, billions have already been spent on social and economic programs to uplift black american families and black entrepreneurship as a direct redress of slavery.

So no there is no coherent argument against inheritance outside of very specific, rare circumstances. The son should not be responsible for the sins of the father anyway, unless you're some kind of religious nutjob.

I agree 100% with inheritence. I think that money worked for comes at a sacrafice, rich people spend less time watching halloween specials with their kids eating popcorn, and that fucks their kids up mentally. Meaning: Everything comes at a cost.

Like take 2 families:

Billy has 2 loving parents that take him on trips every weekend but have little to spend, so they play home made board games and go camping.

Tommy has 2 parents who work all the time and take trips on their own to aspen and they just leave him money on the counter.

When Billie's parents die, he loses everything because all he had was love.

When Tommie's parents die, he loses nothing because he had no love for them, but with that sacrifice, tommy NOW has money to enjoy his life!

But Billy, is all emotion, and he is full of a jealous rage! angry at his parents death, angry at tommy for having a home with a view and a jet ski tommy never worked a day in his life fuck tommy! BILLY SEETHES WITH RAGE!

HIS EYES GROW RED HIS TEETH GNARLED HIS HUNGER INSASTIABLE!

THE ONLY THING TO SATISFY IT: THE RICH

[Duik]

This gives them market power to control different dynamics of that sector.

So, for example, Amazon controls most warehouses. Along with a few other big corporations like Walmart and Kroger. This means they don't have to pay $50 an hour for people to work their ass off. They can do the same for $20, because good luck finding a $50 warehouse job when the few big players agreed $20 is all they are gonna pay.

This is correctamundo. Kudos. I'll take Juris-your-diction for 1000 thanks Johnny.
Cant add any more.

[JurisDictum]

I think we have to admit that inheritance is something you are legally entitled to, but do not "deserve." Maybe the giver deserves the results on some level. But not the person that got it by accident of birth.

It's funny, you lot are very forth coming about people not deserving healthcare -- but a bit cagey about inheritance.

[Jibartik]

If I was a billionaire and couldn't give my wealth to my family id spend it building a space laser that fires when my heart stops and id live stream my last moments as the world contemplates theirs.

[imperiouskitten]

If I was a billionaire and couldn't give my wealth to my family id spend it building a space laser that fires when my heart stops and id live stream my last moments as the world contemplates theirs.

...which is why an apparatus must exist for killing this man :)

[JurisDictum]

The only moral argument against inheritance is if your great grandparents were slave owners. However, the vast majority of wealthy families were never slave owners, even in the south. Furthermore, billions have already been spent on social and economic programs to uplift black american families and black entrepreneurship as a direct redress of slavery.

So no there is no coherent argument against inheritance outside of very specific, rare circumstances. The son should not be responsible for the sins of the father anyway, unless you're some kind of religious nutjob.

Once you admit that slavery inheritance is not legitimate -- you open up a big can of worms. First of all, it is completely interlaced with entire early economy. A lot of people benefited from slavery without owning slaves (like the textile companies up north). Then there are all kinds of non-slavery ventures financed with capital from slavery.
The other blaring problem, is you have to confess that those that employed chinese railroad workers, oppressed native americans, and any asshole that broke the law to make money -- they all have ill-gotten fortunes that shouldn't be inherited.

[imperiouskitten]

I agree 100% with inheritence. I think that money worked for comes at a sacrafice, rich people spend less time watching halloween specials with their kids eating popcorn, and that fucks their kids up mentally. Meaning: Everything comes at a cost.

Like take 2 families:

Billy has 2 loving parents that take him on trips every weekend but have little to spend, so they play home made board games and go camping.

Tommy has 2 parents who work all the time and take trips on their own to aspen and they just leave him money on the counter.

When Billie's parents die, he loses everything because all he had was love.

When Tommie's parents die, he loses nothing because he had no love for them, but with that sacrifice, tommy NOW has money to enjoy his life!

But Billy, is all emotion, and he is full of a jealous rage! angry at his parents death, angry at tommy for having a home with a view and a jet ski tommy never worked a day in his life fuck tommy! BILLY SEETHES WITH RAGE!

HIS EYES GROW RED HIS TEETH GNARLED HIS HUNGER INSASTIABLE!

THE ONLY THING TO SATISFY IT: THE RICH

woah woah woah first of all my parents did the tommy thing because they saw how much a whiz i was on the pee-cee and didnt want to burden me with their rustic getaways. i loved it. i begged them to leave me :p

i'm not really expecting an inheritance, cuz dad blew his equity on the house covering my expenses in college. ish. billy grateful :)

But the only reason the equity is "blown" is because the market fucked him and also perma tanked the value of his retirement in 2008, ie, the machinations of the rich extracted that wealth right from under his nose after a promise. Mom shot herself between assignments doing industrial espionage to animal abusers. Well, her rich boyfriend was creepy and gave 4 different stories to the cops and me and her body had been moved, so whatever. Billy love mom and dad, not resents them. Billy not like evil:)

[JurisDictum]

Bezos makes pancakes every morning for his kids.

[Duik]

old mate above left a couple scenarios out.

Freddy, whose parent, lets call her Meaner Swineheart refuses to pass on her mining wealth to her kids cuz, umm just cuz. Instead pays lawyers to protect it from the leaching bloodsucking offspring. Message here is her kids should have been fucking lawyers.

Ian whose parents left him zilch but he could'nt give one thought to Tommie or his dead parents legacy. He's content with his life. Nuff said.

I like billie though, consumed by rage etc. Nice story, could be a movie. Ian, not so much.

Interesting ideas. I look forward to reading more. Thank you.
Aussie, vaxxed, poor and no gun so prolly dont count anywho.
I do have a sore arm though from second shot yesterday. Like a minor corked muscle pain. Not much of a pugelist, one jab and im down for the count.

[imperiouskitten]

old mate above left a couple scenarios out.

Freddy, whose parent, lets call her Meaner Swineheart refuses to pass on her mining wealth to her kids cuz, umm just cuz. Instead pays lawyers to protect it from the leaching bloodsucking offspring. Message here is her kids should have been fucking lawyers.

Ian whose parents left him zilch but he could'nt give one thought to Tommie or his dead parents legacy. He's content with his life. Nuff said.

I like billie though, consumed by rage etc. Nice story, could be a movie. Ian, not so much.

Interesting ideas. I look forward to reading more. Thank you.
Aussie, vaxxed, poor and no gun so prolly dont count anywho.
I do have a sore arm though from second shot yesterday. Like a minor corked muscle pain. Not much of a pugelist, one jab and im down for the count.

this first scenario is so familiar that the post made me feel paranoid a few moments. Felt deeply! jah bless

[JurisDictum]

Australia covid:

Cases
123K

Deaths
1,405

United States covid:

Cases
44.3M

Deaths
713K

But this didn't stop my favorite news podcast for lecturing Australia on how they handle covid.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SQEcwLDAmk4

[Duik]

which is why an apparatus must exist for killing this man

Or one that keeps just his heart beating indefinitely.

[imperiouskitten]

However I must say that I understood why the man might have felt his offspring didn't deserve such privilege. I have seen many young lives destroyed by privilege. Millions thrown at "rehab" for a 40 year old locked in final death struggle with a childhood oppositional defiant disorder never conquered. It is some of the most humiliating and painful outcome possible.

[Duik]

In essence, Australia is swapping 'merica style freedoms for lives.
Dont get me wrong, this style of virus control can still turn out to be wrong, but at least (percentage wise) 70 odd thousand people will be alive to complain it was wrong. L M F A O.

On a side note, the Monday 11th of oct is Freedom Day in NSW. See you cunts on TV with ya "body count of FREEDOM" updates.
Ps, sorry to those of you that have pointlessly lost people so you can enjoy those freedoms.
Altogether too many uses of the word Freedom. Apologies.

[Duik]

Hey kitty, if ya interested read up about Gina Reinhart her husband died, who did most/all the work and left it all to her. Stuff happened and now she says kids no get a thing. Pretty petty imho.

[JurisDictum]

Australia 0.011% death rate vs 0.016% death rate in the United States.

So they are doing a better job of living through it (probably due to vax push) -- but that doesn't begin to explain the disparity in deaths.

Our deaths are way higher because we have far more cases. Australia took the concept of minimizing the spread far more seriously than we did. The results are significant. Same story in China -- ground zero for the whole damn thing.

Cases
96,432

Deaths
4,636

Deathrate: .048%

Their death rate was through the roof because they got all the initial outbreak. But despite being extremely densely populated -- China minimized spread even more than Australia. Probably because they are more used to authoritarian measures.

But authoritarianism wins out on health. Hate to say it -- but there is really no contest between the two approaches. If we see a more dangerous covid -- I embrace the authoritarian path.

[Horza]

Here's Kyrsten Sinema avoiding her constituents. (https://twitter.com/MeidasTouch/status/1446869786470846467)

[Duik]

Just a quick looksee at some numbers. Caveat, not a numbers man per se.
USA pop 333,463,677
AUS pop 25,874,733
so 1/13th the population.

USA total deaths 733,058
AUS total deaths 1432
so 1/500th the death rate.

USA deaths per million pop 2198
AUS deaths per million pop 55

Looking at them like this it seems pretty stark, but i wondered, aussie continent is a fraction smaller than the US but you have ≈ 13 times the pop. Aussie way to do it may/may not be better to that extent. Maybe we are mainly all just naturally socially distanced as a consequence. I dunno, just a thought. anywho, its funny you have donkeys and elephants in the government.

[Jibartik]

Here's Kyrsten Sinema avoiding her constituents. (https://twitter.com/MeidasTouch/status/1446869786470846467)

that the chick dr disrespect chased into the bathroom?

[Jibartik]

woah woah woah first of all my parents did the tommy thing because they saw how much a whiz i was on the pee-cee and didnt want to burden me with their rustic getaways. i loved it. i begged them to leave me :p

i'm not really expecting an inheritance, cuz dad blew his equity on the house covering my expenses in college. ish. billy grateful :)

But the only reason the equity is "blown" is because the market fucked him and also perma tanked the value of his retirement in 2008, ie, the machinations of the rich extracted that wealth right from under his nose after a promise. Mom shot herself between assignments doing industrial espionage to animal abusers. Well, her rich boyfriend was creepy and gave 4 different stories to the cops and me and her body had been moved, so whatever. Billy love mom and dad, not resents them. Billy not like evil:)

I think you might be a 3rd equation with this backstory :D

[Jibartik]

old mate above left a couple scenarios out.

Freddy, whose parent, lets call her Meaner Swineheart refuses to pass on her mining wealth to her kids cuz, umm just cuz. Instead pays lawyers to protect it from the leaching bloodsucking offspring. Message here is her kids should have been fucking lawyers.

Ian whose parents left him zilch but he could'nt give one thought to Tommie or his dead parents legacy. He's content with his life. Nuff said.

I like billie though, consumed by rage etc. Nice story, could be a movie. Ian, not so much.

Interesting ideas. I look forward to reading more. Thank you.
Aussie, vaxxed, poor and no gun so prolly dont count anywho.
I do have a sore arm though from second shot yesterday. Like a minor corked muscle pain. Not much of a pugelist, one jab and im down for the count.

I like this Ian fella.

[Gravydoo II]

America is doing the worst in the WORLD at this covid shit. 700k now?? So a civil war and like the first 3 years of WWII...

[Duik]

Here's Kyrsten Sinema avoiding her constituents. (https://twitter.com/MeidasTouch/status/1446869786470846467)

Excuse my ignorance, ive heard that name in your polly ticks but is that really her. I so want it to be.

-_-----------_---------
Same story in China -- ground zero for the whole damn thing. Etc....


This sorta blows my theory a bit. Agree authoritarianism seems to work well.
Admit our lockdowns frustrated me alot. I live in a mainly Oldies town, lots of over 65's so even though i dont know most of them, none of ours have died so far. So that's a plus.
But, ive been at work the whole time.
Kids can home school, decent internet for Netflix etc.
One funny thing is if im sick cant get a docs appointment, but i can buy as much beer as i want.
:D

[unsunghero]

I’d much rather have good parents than any amount of money

That’s what true privilege is. I’d rather grow up broke but with parents that did a good job instilling intangible values. Yeah obviously the best possible scenario would be good rich parents

But in lieu of that, I’d take good poor parents over shitty rich parents any day

[Whale biologist]

America is doing the worst in the WORLD at this covid shit. 700k now?? So a civil war and like the first 3 years of WWII...

It's soft power. We're setting the example for this besotten world by overtesting to show how serious this is.

Lots of Republican traitors trying to fuck it up by disrupting the narrative. The usual shit.

[Duik]

..

But in lieu of that, I’d take good poor parents over shitty rich parents any day

Trouble here is many equate good parenting with wealth.

[unsunghero]

Trouble here is many equate good parenting with wealth.

True, but I personally don’t

I think a good parent should instill a sense of right and wrong, honor, whatever u wanna call it. I think a good parent should instill honesty, work ethic/discipline, compassion. None of it costs money to teach, and really a lot of it is just leading by example. Just do it and the kid will see you do it and copy. I think kids know when a parent is more of a do as I say not as I do, type of person

I think if some of those qualities aren’t there, even if that kid gets a bunch of money, that kid could be likely to blow through that money eventually as an adult and be back to square 1…

[Jibartik]

We have to regulate social media because it's revealing how bad we are at parenting in this country lol

[Duik]

Dont regulate, that never works. Just teach ya sprogs to sort the wheat from the chaff.

My young ones say youtube says this or that.
I say you need to PROVE to me its right.
The elder one (11) says in court its up to you to prove its wrong (guilt).
Answer here is "Do i look like a judge or a policeman to you?"
Do more research knucklehead, in other places not just jelly on the youtubes. Or forget about the PS4 and God Of War with ya flaming sword chain thingys. I love buying nice things for the kids, only cause it works better when ya take it offem if they play up.

[Jibartik]

If the facebook issue today proves anything, it's that children need to be the property of Carls Jr.

[Horza]

Dont regulate, that never works.

Shame nobody told the Roosevelt administration before they successfully broke up Standard Oil.

[Duik]

Is this what you mean?

Carls Jr Burgers.
WETHERILL PARK
1183-1187 The Horsley Dr
Wetherill Park, NSW 2164
02 7229 2201
Open 8am - Midnight

Currently Drive-Thru & Takeaway ONLY

Only 200km away! Zomg

[Duik]

Shame nobody told the Roosevelt administration before they successfully broke up Standard Oil.

Social media. Not ya skin oil company you have stock in.

[JurisDictum]

I'm looking into this hypernormalization idea. Haven't scene the film yet. The descriptions remind me the links I saw between modern day politics in the United States and the way politics in the Soviet Union worked shortly before the collapse. This is described really well in Lenin's Tomb. So I'm sitting there reading this book by some guy who later went on to become a Obama worshiper talk about how no one in Russia believed any of the narratives those in power were selling. This was very different then how politics was working in the U.S. during the 90s (when the book was written).

This was during the early Trump era. Trump reminds me of Yeltsin. The same kind of ridicules fellow that never heads the government of a functional government. There is a certain standard of dignity those in power enforce. Only when they lose their grip do you get a Yeltsin or Trump.

The other interesting idea -- is its one of the only sources pointing out how we all have a time economy. You can control people very well just by eating up too much of their time for them to think. So much of political media is distracting and vapid.

[Duik]

We all, (w'all hehe) politicians included need to re- read our job descriptions.
If you are a poly, sure have an opinion on ANYTHING you like. But for fucks sake keep it to yaself if its say, "Oh, I heard someone said bleach kills virus A" or "Something else you know nothing specific about" keep it to political subject this, or politics that.
Or, better yet we ALL read their job descriptions and think for ourselves, we all love doin that shit. So that politician said medical opinion this, should I believe him/her? They could be correct, who knows. At least check with someone who isnt just an MMA fan or a news/opinion broadcaster who casts their own opinion.
In closing, presidents arent pornstars and doctors can know more than failed casino owners.

[Gravydoo II]

200,000 children have been infected with covid.

two hundred thousand.

[unsunghero]

Has anyone see the very recent debate between Ben Shapiro and Ana Kasparian of the Young Turks?

According to his own subscribers (lol) Ben totally won. Thus far that I’ve watched (only about 20 min in) Ana has impressed me. She sounds like a dumb raging blonde on the Young Turks but here she is cordial and thoughtful. She is also making mini-concessions frequently, an effective debating tactic. Each concession has the effect of warming her to the audience who would see her as less close-minded than her opponent. That’s one tactic I noticed her using

Her concession about political news being essentially outrage merchants for $$ I found very true. However, both Young Turks and Daily Wire almost exclusively peddle righteous outrage every single fucking day. It’s how they get their clicks and I don’t see either of them stopping, not even for a day. So that concession is completely meaningless. Don’t identify the problem if you have no intention of fixing it, just makes you look like a hypocrite

Anyway, like I said I’m only 20 mins in, just what I overheard when shaving my head and showering the other day. I’ll finish it eventually

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=XxuiqeuyUyw

[alphys]

Lol you watch people them comment on things they say

[Whale biologist]

Has anyone see the very recent debate between Ben Shapiro and Ana Kasparian of the Young Turks?

According to his own subscribers (lol) Ben totally won. Thus far that I’ve watched (only about 20 min in) Ana has impressed me. She sounds like a dumb raging blonde on the Young Turks but here she is cordial and thoughtful. She is also making mini-concessions frequently, an effective debating tactic. Each concession has the effect of warming her to the audience who would see her as less close-minded than her opponent. That’s one tactic I noticed her using

Her concession about political news being essentially outrage merchants for $$ I found very true. However, both Young Turks and Daily Wire almost exclusively peddle righteous outrage every single fucking day. It’s how they get their clicks and I don’t see either of them stopping, not even for a day. So that concession is completely meaningless. Don’t identify the problem if you have no intention of fixing it, just makes you look like a hypocrite

Anyway, like I said I’m only 20 mins in, just what I overheard when shaving my head and showering the other day. I’ll finish it eventually

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=XxuiqeuyUyw

A hypocrite you say?

[Jibartik]

We should really regulate the news.

Way sooner that we do social media.

Ive spent my whole life thinking that was impossible, but the news seems to think that it's a crazy idea not to regulate social media, so if they want to get rid of free speech lets start with the guys that started this whole civil war 30 years ago.

[Jibartik]

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=XxuiqeuyUyw

haha the first question the liberal says the biggest problem is politicians that are able to trade stocks on information they have being a politician.

Fox news just did a big peace about the leading democrat doing that last night lol

Nancy Pelosi's financial dealings up to $315 million in assets (https://www.foxnews.com/media/watters-world-investigates-nancy-pelosis-315-million-in-assets)

if only people would realize that the left and the right want the same things (except for social politics, which is something you should be discussing with your parents not me and the president)

[Gravydoo II]

If you dont tell factual information, you're not news. People really think tucker, hannity, and the 5 is "news" when in reality, its an opinion show. "No reasonable person would take this seriously" the lawyers for FOX said when tucker was being sued for his outrageous bullshit lies.

[alphys]

LOL YES YOU ARE

THE NEWS ITS SLANG FOR " WHAT IS NEW? " THAT CHANGED TO " ANY NEWS " LIKE NEW THINGS

ITS ALL NEW THINGS LOL

[Whale biologist]

LOL YES YOU ARE

THE NEWS ITS SLANG FOR " WHAT IS NEW? " THAT CHANGED TO " ANY NEWS " LIKE NEW THINGS

ITS ALL NEW THINGS LOL

Except for the good news. That's old news. :)

[alphys]

Except for the good news. That's old news. :)

GOOD NEWS IS OLD NEWS AND BAD NEWS IS THE NEW GOOD NEWS FOR THOSE WHO KNEW WHICH NEW WAS NEWS AND WHICH NEW WASNT

[JurisDictum]

Has anyone see the very recent debate between Ben Shapiro and Ana Kasparian of the Young Turks?

According to his own subscribers (lol) Ben totally won. Thus far that I’ve watched (only about 20 min in) Ana has impressed me. She sounds like a dumb raging blonde on the Young Turks but here she is cordial and thoughtful. She is also making mini-concessions frequently, an effective debating tactic. Each concession has the effect of warming her to the audience who would see her as less close-minded than her opponent. That’s one tactic I noticed her using

Her concession about political news being essentially outrage merchants for $$ I found very true. However, both Young Turks and Daily Wire almost exclusively peddle righteous outrage every single fucking day. It’s how they get their clicks and I don’t see either of them stopping, not even for a day. So that concession is completely meaningless. Don’t identify the problem if you have no intention of fixing it, just makes you look like a hypocrite

Anyway, like I said I’m only 20 mins in, just what I overheard when shaving my head and showering the other day. I’ll finish it eventually

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=XxuiqeuyUyw

You should know that there is plenty of evidence both those people don't really believe what they say frequently. Shapiro didn't really have much an audience until he found incel politics sold very well. Kasperian pretends to be something like alt left or independent media -- whatever you want to call it -- but its just a skit for TYT segments. She (and Cenk) are both insider elitists that take money from billionaires and then proceed to slant the news their way on their "independent media" platform.

They were big Russiagaters for example. People complained and stop watching and following, they continued to push the propaganda. Not many people on the left them very seriously anymore. Jimmy Dore -- someone that used to be on their network -- has caused a lot of damage to them with his rants.

Something that even podcasters I like do that irrating-- they all kiss Joe Rogean's ass. Clearly he's very intelligent and amazing -- I mean look at all his god damn followers. Rogean, in turn, likes to kiss Elon Musk's ass. I mean, Look at all his god damn money -- he's obviously brilliant and completely amazing! Musk in turn, kisses his own ass. That is he did until he got so fat he can no longer reach.

Which is what this all is about. Respect and money runs all these people's lives. They can't help but sell out most the time. Most the "outsider" media -- well its outsider because the guy that started it couldn't be an insider yet.

[JurisDictum]

This is the wiki on Shapiro's early life

Shapiro was born in Los Angeles, California, to a Conservative Jewish family of Russian-Jewish and Lithuanian-Jewish ancestry.[5][6][7] At the age of 9, he transitioned with his family to Orthodox Judaism.[7] He started playing violin at a young age,[8] and performed at the Israel Bonds Banquet in 1996 at twelve years of age.[9] His parents both worked in Hollywood. His mother was an executive of a TV company[which?] and his father worked as a composer.[6]

Skipping two grades (third and ninth), Shapiro went from Walter Reed Middle School in The Valley to Yeshiva University High School of Los Angeles in Westside, Los Angeles, where he graduated in 2000 at age 16.[10][3] He graduated from the University of California, Los Angeles in 2004 summa cum laude, at age 20, with a Bachelor of Arts degree in political science, and then from Harvard Law School in 2007 cum laude.[11] He then worked at the law offices of Goodwin Procter. As of March 2012, he ran an independent legal consultancy firm, Benjamin Shapiro Legal Consulting, in Los Angeles.[3]


Shapiro became interested in politics at a young age. He started a nationally syndicated column when he was 17 and had written two books by age 21.[12]

In his first book Brainwashed: How Universities Indoctrinate America's Youth (2004), Shapiro argues that the American Left has ideological dominance over universities, and professors don't tolerate non-left opinions.[13][14]

In 2011, HarperCollins published Shapiro's fourth book, Primetime Propaganda: The True Hollywood Story of How the Left Took Over Your TV, in which Shapiro argues that Hollywood has a left-wing agenda that it actively promotes through prime-time entertainment programming. In the book, the producers of Happy Days and M*A*S*H say they pursued a pro-pacifist, anti-Vietnam-War agenda in those series.[15] Shapiro also became a fellow at the David Horowitz Freedom Center.[16]


To translate what this means: He was born in the top 5% easily. That doesn't completely capture it though. It's not like his dad owned a bunch of car lots. Generally if you are living well off as a couple creatives in so cal -- we're talking old money high class kind of a culture.

He doesn't just go to Harvard, he graduates with a high end think tank job, multiple book deals, and some media attention. It's clear that he is well connected with Israeli elite as well.

His first book when he was 17, is very similar in content to his opinions now. Think about that a minute. How many people worth listening to wrote the same book in 2004 that they wrote in 2020? This is clearly branding, not some intellectual with lots of new ideas.

Conservative kids that go from college republicans in an elite university -> think tanks -> media through personal contacts.

This is perhaps the most privileged path that exists for rightwing people in the entire world. Even the federal judge pipeline requires a lot more work, academic rigor, and merit. This is the kind of path preserved for the few -- a cash of influence of multiple generations.

But Ben has worked hard, ill give him that. There was a big gap between his 2004 book and his next one in 2012. My theory is, he didn't actually believe the shit from 2004 anymore. Except for when hes insulting all the cool liberal media types that won't hang out with him or validate his status. There is some real rage there.

He kept trying to make it work without going full rube. He doesn't like rubes -- that's obvious. But he depends on them now -- its where he has influence.

[Elizondo]

Man that chick hit the wall hard

[JurisDictum]

The hypernormalization film is basically an idea salad by Adam Curtis. Some good things in there. But overall, I don't think it helps people make sense of much. The kind of fragmented thinking media like this encourages is part of the problem.

Basically two unrelated ideas were connected in my head. (1) That there is a lack of legitimacy in modern American media and political elites. (2) Distraction is used as a way to direct political anger to safer targets.

Curtis weaves these points and others into a movie and acts like there is some thesis called hypernormalization that comes out of it. But in the end, a theory it doesn't make.

[alphys]

EVERY PRESIDENT IS HANDPICKED BY THE DEEPSTATE ACCORDING TO THE NATIONAL STRATEGY

YOUR VOTES ARE NEVER COUNTED
ELECTIONS ARE A MEDIA SHOW

IT DOESN'T MATTER IF OBAMA OR TRUMP IS IN THE WHITE HOUSE

[JurisDictum]

EVERY PRESIDENT IS HANDPICKED BY THE DEEPSTATE ACCORDING TO THE NATIONAL STRATEGY

YOUR VOTES ARE NEVER COUNTED
ELECTIONS ARE A MEDIA SHOW

IT DOESN'T MATTER IF OBAMA OR TRUMP IS IN THE WHITE HOUSE

It doesn't even make sense to fully rig the election. First of all, you can just rig the primaries most the time. Even if that doesn't work for some reason -- you still have the ability to pick a few key states and just dump some extra votes there to sway the election the way you want it to go.

Someone like me, who talks to people all the time about politics, realizes you don't really need to change votes to get people to vote for stupid shit. I'm not saying I know 100% you are wrong. But you should consider the fact that you could be wrong and the world still makes sense. The way people vote still has explanations behind it.

There is also the fact that we have election observers on both sides every election. So a great deal of any rigging that takes place has to be under these people's nose -- and they are likely to make a stink of it.

So far, we only have the same guy who announced the election he won was rigged -- and now says the election he lost was rigged. He's got some stories -- that's it. Trump appointed judges wouldn't even hear the case because they couldn't produce any evidence that could actually result in anyone siding with the plaintive.

[Jibartik]

Man that chick hit the wall hard

I hate to sound masojonistic but she was giving him I wana get pounded by this guy vibes when he was ranting at his most confident moments during this debate.

[JurisDictum]

They have a lot in common.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LX3IFGdx-cY

They both market themselves in some kind of anti-mainstream populist truth tellers. But they are elitist grifters. They have about as much respect for you as a salesman does for his mark.

[Ooloo]

This is the wiki on Shapiro's early life

To translate what this means: He was born in the top 5% easily. That doesn't completely capture it though. It's not like his dad owned a bunch of car lots. Generally if you are living well off as a couple creatives in so cal -- we're talking old money high class kind of a culture.

He doesn't just go to Harvard, he graduates with a high end think tank job, multiple book deals, and some media attention. It's clear that he is well connected with Israeli elite as well.

His first book when he was 17, is very similar in content to his opinions now. Think about that a minute. How many people worth listening to wrote the same book in 2004 that they wrote in 2020? This is clearly branding, not some intellectual with lots of new ideas.

Conservative kids that go from college republicans in an elite university -> think tanks -> media through personal contacts.

This is perhaps the most privileged path that exists for rightwing people in the entire world. Even the federal judge pipeline requires a lot more work, academic rigor, and merit. This is the kind of path preserved for the few -- a cash of influence of multiple generations.

But Ben has worked hard, ill give him that. There was a big gap between his 2004 book and his next one in 2012. My theory is, he didn't actually believe the shit from 2004 anymore. Except for when hes insulting all the cool liberal media types that won't hang out with him or validate his status. There is some real rage there.

He kept trying to make it work without going full rube. He doesn't like rubes -- that's obvious. But he depends on them now -- its where he has influence.

Cool, do you have any specific rebuttal to anything he currently says? Or are you just posting a hitjob? Yes, he no longer believes some things that he used to believe. That is called growing, and being an adult.

Guy is bad!

Okay but what do you think about what he says?

It's bad! It's republican! It's right wing!

Okay but you still didn't actually say anything.

Ahhhh!! I'm angry!

Please dispense with the israel shit btw. Which middle eastern country would you like to live in? Syria? Iraq? Iran? Yemen? Qatar? Saudi Arabia? Jordan? Egypt? Mayyyyyyybe Israel?

[JurisDictum]

Cool, do you have any specific rebuttal to anything he currently says? Or are you just posting a hitjob? Yes, he no longer believes some things that he used to believe. That is called growing, and being an adult.

Guy is bad!

Okay but what do you think about what he says?

It's bad! It's republican! It's right wing!

Okay but you still didn't actually say anything.

Ahhhh!! I'm angry!

Please dispense with the israel shit btw. Which middle eastern country would you like to live in? Syria? Iraq? Iran? Yemen? Qatar? Saudi Arabia? Jordan? Egypt? Mayyyyyyybe Israel?

I'm deeply impressed he apologized for past remarks once they were no longer deemed socially acceptable. Struck me as really sincere and you are not at all a dumbshit for believing that.

I don't like Ben because he is a grifter. You said nothing about be me explaining how Maddow is a grifter her didn't believe her own BS.

Edit: I misread something. Anyway, I talk about the exact same topics Shapiro does, and argue against conservative positions. So its a little strange to suggest I don't engage with any of his substance. He's not original, thus, I engage with it a lot.

[Jibartik]

Well, he sure won that debate.