the i dont care about politics anymore thread

[F0rmsh1fter]

Ukraine sovereignty important now too

All of a sudden borders are mattering to a lot of people

Gotta protect hunter Biden’s oil investments

And don’t forget- the big guy gets 10%

[Reiwa]

Ukraine sovereignty important now too

All of a sudden borders are mattering to a lot of people

It's not a violation of sovereignty if the sovereign decides to evaluate and admit refugees.

Ukraine, as sovereign, doesn't want Russian troops to migrate into its country.

[Horza]

It's not a violation of sovereignty if the sovereign decides to evaluate and admit refugees.

Ukraine, as sovereign, doesn't want Russian troops to migrate into its country.

Tucker: What is NATO and what is the purpose of NATO since the fall of the Soviet Union 30 years ago? Well, no one can answer that question. Not one person. (https://twitter.com/Acyn/status/1484332491695554561)

[unsunghero]

It's not a violation of sovereignty if the sovereign decides to evaluate and admit refugees.

Ukraine, as sovereign, doesn't want Russian troops to migrate into its country.

Refugees peacefully carrying backpacks of fentanyl

Southern border also the easiest way to sneak a nuke or other WMD into the US and detonate it. Hoping I never have to say I told ya so to us gov’t on that one

[Reiwa]

Tucker: What is NATO and what is the purpose of NATO since the fall of the Soviet Union 30 years ago? Well, no one can answer that question. Not one person. (https://twitter.com/Acyn/status/1484332491695554561)

Isn't it to counter Russian revanchism? Russia has a huge population compared to most European countries and the economic and materiel resources to go with it...

[unsunghero]

Isn’t the Soros Open Society Foundation big on a world without borders?

Ok let’s start with Palestine and Ukraine. What are we going to suggest that some people will come in and not assimilate or respect local law or customs? Surprised Pikachu face

Jk I don’t have a big problem with US defending its allies. That’s our responsibility

[Gatordash]

Remember when Biden was going to fund his spending by taxing the rich? And then gearing up the IRS to go after the rich?

Shock and awe etc. but instead they are going after all the service industry workers here in Las Vegas who are already struggling to make rent due to rising home prices from everyone moving here from California. Here is an internal memo from Caesar's but this is going to severely impact everyone here.

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[Reiwa]

Isn’t the Soros Open Society Foundation big on a world without borders?

Ok let’s start with Palestine and Ukraine. What are we going to suggest that some people will come in and not assimilate or respect local law or customs? Surprised Pikachu face

Jk I don’t have a big problem with US defending its allies. That’s our responsibility

You say you support our allies yet you call it Palestine. Curious!

[starkind]

god everyone is a retard over ukraine its russias cuba obviously

we can accept what few trans ukraininian refugees there may be

otherwise living in ukraine now is no different than living in russia now except if we play tug of war with ukraine the ukrainians will all die 100% unilaterally including the gay ones

---- not to mention having russia be able to get $$$ from gaslines to europe will corrupt and indenture russia even further, we should let them play ball --- that will only enrich a few ppl in russia anyway and the remainder will still be poors and hate their own government/country but not want to die like NORMAL is for cold russian winter forever times

[unsunghero]

You say you support our allies yet you call it Palestine. Curious!

Israel is our ally (to my knowledge), Palestine isn’t. I don’t see a problem with Israel encroaching in on Palestine territory, as long as they do it peacefully

After all, nothing dangerous can come from smashing two cultures with very different ideologies together and to suggest otherwise is racist

[Reiwa]

Israel is our ally (to my knowledge), Palestine isn’t. I don’t see a problem with Israel encroaching in on Palestine territory, as long as they do it peacefully

After all, nothing dangerous can come from smashing two cultures with very different ideologies together and to suggest otherwise is racist

I won't let you get away with both sidesing this. :)

"Palestine" is an autonomous zone within the borders of Israel. There is no violation.

[unsunghero]

I won't let you get away with both sidesing this. :)

"Palestine" is an autonomous zone within the borders of Israel. There is no violation.

It’s the autonomous part I have a problem with

I’m gonna get real progressive on this. I think Israel should not only be able to live there, but also to participate in their government selection process

After all, they live there. Well, not quite in the ratio they want to yet

[Reiwa]

It’s the autonomous part I have a problem with

I’m gonna get real progressive on this. I think Israel should not only be able to live there, but also to participate in their government selection process

After all, they live there. Well, not quite in the ratio they want to yet

Plenty of room on the Golan Heights I say!

[Jibartik]

I think the left only hates Israel Jews because they don’t respect Palestine sovereignty because sovereignty is important unless it’s ours then borders are racist?

you just said that the left hates jews because of blood libel.

:o :(

no matter what they do someone is going to paint a picture of them being baby killers.

just replace the word Palestine with Germany and its 1:1 the problem Hitler had.

[starkind]

Is it still legal to prefer jewish friends to muslim friends?

[unsunghero]

Plenty of room on the Golan Heights I say!

They’ve been enriching each other’s culture for the past 55 years, I think living closer together will only increase their bond

I don’t see why the squad is so against this. Diversity will be their strength

[Reiwa]

They’ve been enriching each other’s culture for the past 55 years, I think living closer together will only increase their bond

I don’t see why the squad is so against this. Diversity will be their strength

Israel is fine coexisting but won't take no shit. 💯

[F0rmsh1fter]

Allies help each other. All Israeli does is get millions of tax dollars a year from us to fund their schemes

Israel coexisting lol. This is why it’s now 110 countries. This is what they do everywhere they go:

https://www.thetower.org/wp-content/uploads/2014/12/001_Shany_Mor_Palestinian_Propoganda_Map.jpg

[Reiwa]

Allies help each other. All Israeli does is get millions of tax dollars a year from us to fund their schemes

Israel coexisting lol. This is why it’s now 110 countries. This is what they do everywhere they go:

https://www.thetower.org/wp-content/uploads/2014/12/001_Shany_Mor_Palestinian_Propoganda_Map.jpg

Vae victis! (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zL8o9HVbTO8)

[F0rmsh1fter]

Vae victis! (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zL8o9HVbTO8)

Lol that was the name of the raid LS I started in ffxi

[Reiwa]

do not come

im gonna come

yo I have that vid saved on my downloads folder :cool:

[Jibartik]

this is faaaantastic!

Sk0hYrPVFtY

[unsunghero]

this is faaaantastic!

Sk0hYrPVFtY

Holy shit CNN aired this?

[Homesteaded]

The look on AC420s face...gold.

[Horza]

Holy shit CNN aired this?

Imagine the paste eaters on Fox News allowing any criticism of their orange messiah without immediately cutting the guy's mic.

[Jibartik]

lol get real they hated trump.

not to mention this is an evisceration, not criticism :o

[unsunghero]

Imagine the paste eaters on Fox News allowing any criticism of their orange messiah without immediately cutting the guy's mic.

Lol Horza watches more Fox than all of us combined and doesn’t know Trump turned on Fox News after they called the 2020 election legitimate very early on or something

“Fox News faces an array of challenges after President Donald Trump leaves office: a potential ratings decline, Trump’s tweets attacking the network, and the threat that he could start a rival media outlet”

Probably half of conservatives switched to Newsmax and never went back. If you’re gonna watch our news, learn its history

[Horza]

Fox News are libs now because they said the election wasn't actually rigged by George Soros?

[unsunghero]

Fox News are libs now because they said the election wasn't actually rigged by George Soros?

They criticized him a significant amount in the past and also had their journalist Chris Wallace be a whiny pussy during the debates with Biden. He, rather than grow a spine and be a moderator, take control, and stop the interruptions just made the debate be Biden + Chris vs Trump because he got sick of Trump interrupting

It was a lot of stuff, these are just off the top of my head. I’m going to chalk the lack of knowledge about the network despite your hundreds of hours watching it to your learning disability

[unsunghero]

What could have been an interesting debate was instead a complete shit-show because not only was Fox Journalist Chris Wallace biased against Trump going in, but he was also a weak person and a terrible moderator

An example would be if I started spamming this forum with the N-word (which is what the Horza_bot_script interprets my posts to be), the Chris Wallace version of moderation would be to complain about it, then join Horza and the other Dems in criticizing me and my opinions while still allowing me to spam the N-word in response for pages and pages. A child throwing a tantrum is going to continue as long as parent continues to engage with them and allow it

Whereas a good moderator would say something like "I don't care if you both are the president elect, I am the moderator of this debate, and it is completely unproductive to talk over each other" and then enforce it by muting the other person's mic when necessary and continuing to very simply re-iterate the rules. I do this all the time at my job when families want to get into an arguing screaming match with each other rather than healthy communication. It's not hard, but it does take a spine, which apparently Chris doesn't have

Hey whatever happened to Chris anyway? Oh that's right "The star Fox News anchor Chris Wallace announced on Sunday that he was leaving for CNN" (dec 12 2021). What a coincidence

[Horza]

Hey whatever happened to Chris anyway? Oh that's right "The star Fox News anchor Chris Wallace announced on Sunday that he was leaving for CNN" (dec 12 2021). What a coincidence

You come at the king, you best not miss.

[myrddraal]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KMXRR0vcuoY

[starkind]

soooo they resorted to ad homininem within the first 20 seconds after licking their lips and brushing their hair back like the prima donnas they are

super yiiiikes brothers bros

[unsunghero]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KMXRR0vcuoY

Might be because the rate of myocarditis in children from the vaccine was highest from the Moderna one, not Pfizer:

“Data suggests reported cases of rare heart inflammation are relatively higher after Moderna's vaccine compared with the Pfizer/BioNTech shots, Canadian health officials said last week”

“ Although both vaccines are based on mRNA technology, the Pfizer shot contains 30 micrograms of vaccine per dose compared with 100 micrograms in the Moderna vaccine.

Data from one of two U.S. vaccine safety monitoring databases has also suggested that Moderna's vaccine may carry a higher risk of myocarditis among young people”

Source: https://www.reuters.com/business/healthcare-pharmaceuticals/sweden-pauses-use-moderna-covid-vaccine-cites-rare-side-effects-2021-10-06/

It was what made me worried about my heart as someone who has both had covid AND taken the Moderna vaccine, and made me wish I had taken the pfizer

Although the risk of heart issues still might be higher with covid than with vaxx, they might still be highest risk for those that have had both, this I dunno

[F0rmsh1fter]

There’s no risk of heart issues with covid. The vaccine is killing otherwise healthy people. Covid is making them feel bad for a few days

[F0rmsh1fter]

There’s no risk of heart issues with covid. The vaccine is killing otherwise healthy people. Covid is making them feel bad for a few days

[Reiwa]

Lol Horza watches more Fox than all of us combined and doesn’t know Trump turned on Fox News after they called the 2020 election legitimate very early on or something

“Fox News faces an array of challenges after President Donald Trump leaves office: a potential ratings decline, Trump’s tweets attacking the network, and the threat that he could start a rival media outlet”

Probably half of conservatives switched to Newsmax and never went back. If you’re gonna watch our news, learn its history

They criticized him a significant amount in the past and also had their journalist Chris Wallace be a whiny pussy during the debates with Biden. He, rather than grow a spine and be a moderator, take control, and stop the interruptions just made the debate be Biden + Chris vs Trump because he got sick of Trump interrupting

It was a lot of stuff, these are just off the top of my head. I’m going to chalk the lack of knowledge about the network despite your hundreds of hours watching it to your learning disability

What could have been an interesting debate was instead a complete shit-show because not only was Fox Journalist Chris Wallace biased against Trump going in, but he was also a weak person and a terrible moderator

An example would be if I started spamming this forum with the N-word (which is what the Horza_bot_script interprets my posts to be), the Chris Wallace version of moderation would be to complain about it, then join Horza and the other Dems in criticizing me and my opinions while still allowing me to spam the N-word in response for pages and pages. A child throwing a tantrum is going to continue as long as parent continues to engage with them and allow it

Whereas a good moderator would say something like "I don't care if you both are the president elect, I am the moderator of this debate, and it is completely unproductive to talk over each other" and then enforce it by muting the other person's mic when necessary and continuing to very simply re-iterate the rules. I do this all the time at my job when families want to get into an arguing screaming match with each other rather than healthy communication. It's not hard, but it does take a spine, which apparently Chris doesn't have

Hey whatever happened to Chris anyway? Oh that's right "The star Fox News anchor Chris Wallace announced on Sunday that he was leaving for CNN" (dec 12 2021). What a coincidence

Which would you say is conservative, mr tromp or mr wallace?

[unsunghero]

There’s no risk of heart issues with covid. The vaccine is killing otherwise healthy people. Covid is making them feel bad for a few days

Covid can damage the heart tho

[unsunghero]

Which would you say is conservative, mr tromp or mr wallace?

The guy who would win the Republican primary if he chose to run in 2024 or the guy who left for CNN?

Is that a rhetorical question or…?

[Reiwa]

The guy who would win the Republican primary if he chose to run in 2024 or the guy who left for CNN?

Is that a rhetorical question or…?

Your measure of ideology is winning elections?

C'mon man!

[unsunghero]

Your measure of ideology is winning elections?

C'mon man!

If his ideologies were not conservative, even Trump would lose the support of the party

If he said things like “Hate speech isn’t free speech”, “I think we should get tougher on gun rights”, “I think illegals deserve amnesty”, “I am pro choice” any one of those and he’d be dunzo as a Republican candidate, for example

[Reiwa]

If his ideologies were not conservative, even Trump would lose the support of the party

If he said things like “Hate speech isn’t free speech”, “I think we should get tougher on gun rights”, “I think illegals deserve amnesty”, “I am pro choice” any one of those and he’d be dunzo as a Republican candidate, for example

But you repeat yourself. Any chance you have an actual definition? 😬

[Jibartik]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KMXRR0vcuoY

This is funny because last night I was watching a video of Joe Rogan and some goober talking about how the meta-verse was going to be dystopia and how Facebook has Weaponized everybody and going into the meta-verse owned by the company that Weaponized social media was going to make people even more upset and misinformed and confused and angry blah blah blah

and I was like Bro You’re Joe Rogan.. you influence literately millions of people. Like millions of people turn your show on and then they make decisions based off of shit they heard you say.. and now you’re saying because Facebook has so much influence it’s inherently evil? We’ll, how the fuck am I supposed to trust you??

Like they’re talking about how Facebook can’t be trusted because of its influence it’s so influential it can’t be owned by one man… meanwhile we’re on this insanely influential talkshow controlled by one man that has no proof about any of the things they say like they could say whatever the f they want and millions of people would be like holy shit that’s true!!

Like it’s hard for me to articulate what I’m saying but listening to Joe Rogan say that Facebook is inherently evil because it has so much influence… that’s just fucking insane to me that people could be that ironically hypocritical and stupid.

[unsunghero]

But you repeat yourself. Any chance you have an actual definition? 😬

My rate for googling things for people is $50/hour

[Jibartik]

A conservative as someone who doesn’t want to start a Civil War so that they can have free workers.

[Reiwa]

My rate for googling things for people is $50/hour

https://www.project1999.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=16743&stc=1&thumb=1&d=1642870622

Okay, so what old policies did he reinstate or what progress did he retard during his reign?

From my end it seems he introduced a litany of new, untested ideas into American politics. MPP and the SALT cap for a quick example.

What about that is conservative?

[unsunghero]

Okay, so what old policies did he reinstate or what progress did he retard during his reign?

From my end it seems he introduced a litany of new, untested ideas into American politics. MPP and the SALT cap for a quick example.

What about that is conservative?

You’re going on 3 minutes of googling. Let me know where I can send the bill

https://townhall.com/columnists/waynegrudem/2020/08/24/30-good-things-president-trump-has-done-for-america-n2574849

[Jibartik]

There’s no way Russia would be on the border right now if Trump was president.

Say what you want about Trump but all those world leaders were like, dude Trump really is crazy so let’s not fuck with him.

As soon as he’s gone it became a shit show out there.

[Reiwa]

You’re going on 3 minutes of googling. Let me know where I can send the bill

https://townhall.com/columnists/waynegrudem/2020/08/24/30-good-things-president-trump-has-done-for-america-n2574849

Eh, if you aren't gonna engage with the argument, I'll leave you to it.

[unsunghero]

Eh, if you aren't gonna engage with the argument, I'll leave you to it.

There’s 30 things there, many of which could be seen as conservative minded

You asked, I delivered

[Reiwa]

Conservative is when things that I like

:)

[unsunghero]

:)

“Judges: Trump has appointed two Supreme Court justices, 53 federal appellate judges, and 146 District Court judges (as well as two judges for the Court of International Trade) who have been confirmed by the Senate so far. In addition, 64 more have been appointed and are awaiting Senate confirmation. All of them are….”

conservatives

“Trump’s extensive canceling of excessive government regulations on businesses have given a tremendous boost to the American economy. An estimated 25,000 pages of regulations have been canceled, resulting in a savings of $3,100 per household per year”

Cutting taxes and de-regulating businesses is considered conservative

“Protecting unborn babies: Numerous executive orders have increasingly restricted government funding for abortions (such as the reinstatement of the Mexico City policy). On February 22, 2019, the Trump administration announced that it would not allow organizations that provide referrals for abortions to receive federal family-planning money, which implies a cut in funding for Planned Parenthood (the nation’s largest abortion provider) unless they perform abortions in a separate facility and not refer patients to it. And on May 2, 2019, the Trump administration’s Department of Health and Human Services issued a new rule protecting healthcare workers who decline on the basis of conscience or religious conviction to participate in procedures such as abortion or assisted suicide. Trump was the first president ever to personally attend the pro-life March for Life in Washington, D.C. on January 24, 2020”

About as conservative as it gets

“Actually building a border wall: President Trump has relentlessly battled against Democratic stonewalling and liberal federal judges to build an effective, secure border wall along more than 200 miles of our southern border, and it could possibly reach as much as 450 miles by the end of 2020. Critics object that most of this construction is simply replacing old barriers that were already in place, but they fail to recognize that the government’s first priority has been to secure the highest traffic areas, and in many of those areas the old fence was not up to the job. An effective border wall is absolutely necessary to keep our nation secure and to gain some control over an immigration crisis that has spiraled out of control”

“Protecting freedom of speech on college campuses: President Trump issued an executive order giving more specific protections to freedom of speech on college campuses by threatening the loss of federal research dollars if they do not allow for free speech for all students and faculty members. On many campuses, conservative and religious students and faculty members have had their views censored or have faced retribution for expressing conservative or faith-based views”

An attempt to prevent the bullying and indoctrination and free speech suppression that goes on at college campuses and is a major factor in them winning the culture war and 90%+ of college grad journalists being liberal who went on to become Democrat propagandists

“Protecting boys’ and girls’ bathrooms, locker rooms, and sports teams: On February 22, 2017, President Trump directed the Department of Education to revoke the Obama administration’s guidance letter that had directed schools to allow children who claim to be “transgender” to use the bathrooms, locker rooms, and showers of their choice, and to join sports teams of their choice, even when their choices differed from their biological sex”

Pushing for biological sex only is far more traditionalist than it is progressive

I have to go on a hike (in the rain no less), so stopped here. Feel free to peruse the rest at your leisure

[Jibartik]

:)

If the things you like are not starting a civil war, then right you are :)

[Reiwa]

If the things you like are not starting a civil war, then right you are :)

Eh, I got my parting shot. He's just gonna paste tautologies at me so nm. :p

[Ooloo]

Eh, I got my parting shot. He's just gonna paste tautologies at me so nm. :p

Huh? He posted a bunch of stuff that is indeed conservative, or at least aligned with a typically right wing or republican agenda. How is any of that a tautology?

[Horza]

Excuse me, but I have to go for a hike because I've been owned so badly.

[Elizondo]

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[unsunghero]

Excuse me, but I have to go for a hike because I've been owned so badly.

Don’t be bitter when you hear about someone going outside

Try a little bit at a time first. Like maybe just a walk to your apartment mailbox and back. Then as you build your tolerance go a little farther each time

[unsunghero]

Eh, I got my parting shot. He's just gonna paste tautologies at me so nm. :p

No I don’t have any tattoos and probably never will

[Ooloo]

Excuse me, but I have to go for a hike because I've been owned so badly.

No reiwa just used the world tautology and I don't think he knows what it means.

[Horza]

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[unsunghero]

^
Lol

Well I personally refuse to buy M&M’s until one is trans, black, Muslim, and paralyzed

[Reiwa]

No reiwa just used the world tautology and I don't think he knows what it means.

But you repeat yourself.

[Ooloo]

"If I say YOU don't know what it means, I don't have to explain what I meant when I used it erroneously!" -reiwa

"How is trump conservative?"
"Uh he opposed abortion that's pretty conservative"
"What a tautology!".

Like what?

[Reiwa]

The guy who would win the Republican primary if he chose to run in 2024 or the guy who left for CNN?


Your measure of ideology is winning elections?

C'mon man!

If his ideologies were not conservative, even Trump would lose the support of the party


Hope this helps Baler!

[Elizondo]

Moby Dick Dr creating pointless debates and tryin to spike the football

Embarrassing

[Jibartik]

I think this issue is a sign of bigger issues, that have nothing to do with the perceived issue.

The real issue is that we think cooperate mascots need to teach, or can teach, our children how to feel their sexuality.

Because of YouTube and tiktok and social media personalities everyone loves advertising now, it's insane to me.

[Elizondo]

I think this issue is a sign of bigger issues, that have nothing to do with the perceived issue.

The real issue is that we think cooperate mascots need to teach, or can teach, our children how to feel their sexuality.

Because of YouTube and tiktok and social media personalities everyone loves advertising now, it's insane to me.

I think most peeps just wanna buy candy and don't care if the M&M cut off his johnson

[Ooloo]

Hope this helps Baler!

I appreciate that you took the time to fish out each of those specific quotes. I still don't know what you're talking about (you'll probably quote that last sentence and quip something really clever like "I know you don't! :)"

I also still think you don't know what "tautology" means and just used that word to sound cool.

[Jibartik]

I think most peeps just wanna buy candy and don't care if the M&M cut off his johnson

I cant tell you how many times Ive heard young, intelligent people say, "i dont use adblock becaus I like to support creators".

its like holy shit they figured out how to make us suck our own dicks.

[Reiwa]

I appreciate that you took the time to fish out each of those specific quotes. I still don't know what you're talking about (you'll probably quote that last sentence and quip something really clever like "I know you don't! :)"

I also still think you don't know what "tautology" means and just used that word to sound cool.

One of us doesn't, that's for sure. ;)

[Ooloo]

Now that the orange m&m is demi-sexual inclusive, pan-romantic, things will get better.

Before, so many people saw those innocent, wholesome m&m ads where they went sledding or whatever and though "HEY I HATE QUEERS!!!", but now they won't.

[starkind]

I cant tell you how many times Ive heard young, intelligent people say, "i dont use adblock becaus I like to support creators".

its like holy shit they figured out how to make us suck our own dicks.

It was a dream to suck my own dick. Now my back is broken :(

[Jibartik]

Google ninja jidion to see the leaders of genz have a corperate legal discuss the dispute over streamer defamation.

We live in the bladerunner universe already.

[Ooloo]

One of us doesn't, that's for sure. ;)

Saying that being opposed to abortion is conservative is not a tautology, yet you called it one.

Respond in more than one sentence and\or sentence fragment.

[Reiwa]

Saying that being opposed to abortion is conservative is not a tautology, yet you called it one.

Respond in more than one sentence and\or sentence fragment.

I'll PM you, this is becoming a distraction.

[Jibartik]

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[Ooloo]

Liberals had the right idea up until they started advocating total freedom, which seems paradoxical but it's not. They say you should have the freedom to inject heroin all day if you want, but injecting heroin all day actually robs you of freedom. You become a slave. So much of leftist political and social thought these days ignores this.

They insist that women who are clambering for the top of the foodchain at their local hellish office job until they're too old to have children are happier and more liberated than women who choose to be mothers. It's misery masquerading as liberation and it keeps fooling generation after generation.

[Reiwa]

Liberals had the right idea up until they started advocating total freedom, which seems paradoxical but it's not. They say you should have the freedom to inject heroin all day if you want, but injecting heroin all day actually robs you of freedom. You become a slave. So much of leftist political and social thought these days ignores this.

They insist that women who are clambering for the top of the foodchain at their local hellish office job until they're too old to have children are happier and more liberated than women who choose to be mothers. It's misery masquerading as liberation and it keeps fooling generation after generation.

Having the option is nice.

[Ooloo]

Having the option is nice.

Yes and they already have the option. The left keeps rebooting the cadavers of old civil rights struggles, because their entire political identity is based on grievance and virtuous liberation. They simply have no argument anymore. Get a stupid fuckin ID and you can vote, it takes almost no time. Stop pretending you're MLK because you have to go down to the DMV for an hour like everybody else.

[Reiwa]

Yes and they already have the option.

Not for long if we overthrow stare decisis like the Conservative movement wants to! :p

[Jibartik]

First it was:

1. we should be free to have slaves because freedom!

now it's

2. people should be free to work for us in market regulated by us.

never trust these demorats they're only goal is to split away from the USA and start a new evil country that is bent on industrialism.

Notice that it's California that keeps threatening to leave the USA and reminding the world that their system of modern plantation based economies grants them a higher GDP

We've been bamboozled by the left in school to think it's the confederacy! Now they want to re-write history and make it critically racial so they can continue to support their democrat regulated economy (SLAVES 2.0!)

https://i.imgur.com/72SmlNV.png

[Horza]

I don't think you actually need to re-write the country's history to make it racial, paste eater.

[Ooloo]

Racism is bad guys, people should have equal access to the ballot box. Oops they already do.

What is our party line now? Uhhhh..... let's stick to racism is bad. If you don't want illegal immigrants to help choose our next president you are a racist! Wooo!

[Jibartik]

I don't think you actually need to re-write the country's history to make it racial, paste eater.

The dnc isnt rewriting history to do that. They're rewriting history to make it seem like they're the good guys and havent started both of our (giong on 2) civil war(s) both times using race as a scapegoat.

They're whitewashing THEIR history.

[Reiwa]

Racism is bad guys, people should have equal access to the ballot box. Oops they already do.

What is our party line now? Uhhhh..... let's stick to racism is bad. If you don't want illegal immigrants to help choose our next president you are a racist! Wooo!

Still pretending municipal elections are federal elections? Oh well, get better soon.

[Ooloo]

"If some people have to wait longer to vote than other people, this means there is INEQUITY! And now we need VOTER JUSTICE!! Which means you can just show up and vote and pinky swear you're allowed to!" -basically the actual left position right now

[Ooloo]

Still pretending municipal elections are federal elections? Oh well, get better soon.

No, I'm not. Why don't you actually show me you know what those words mean?

Here: I think you should have to show ID to vote in *any* election, municipal or otherwise! The absolutely retarded thing that you keep ignoring is that the left pretends they care about the security of voting, while enacting policies that make the security of voting a total joke. They have no answer for this, just like you don't. All you can do is issue some limp accusation that I used a word wrong.

Here's a very straightforward question: Should you have to be a legal citizen of the united states to vote? And if so, how might you prove that?

[Horza]

How many illegal immigrants do you think voted for Biden, Baler?

[Reiwa]

No, I'm not. Why don't you actually show me you know what those words mean?

Here: I think you should have to show ID to vote in *any* election, municipal or otherwise! The absolutely retarded thing that you keep ignoring is that the left pretends they care about the security of voting, while enacting policies that make the security of voting a total joke. They have no answer for this, just like you don't. All you can do is issue some limp accusation that I used a word wrong.

Here's a very straightforward question: Should you have to be a legal citizen of the united states to vote? And if so, how might you prove that?

You were referring to NYC potentially allowing non-citizens to vote in their elections.

Voter ID has nothing to do with that, crazypants.

[Ooloo]

How many illegal immigrants do you think voted for Biden, Baler?

No idea but that's kind of irrelevant and also a terrible argument! And I'm not baler!

"It's okay if some illegal votes are counted because uhhh I dunno, most of them weren't!"

It's as if election fraud need only occur in a couple specific counties in a couple specific states to swing a national election, and that should concern you regardless of which team you support!

[Gravydoo II]

Pretty easy to vote without your ID. Ask all the states that do it right now. You just fill out your identity on your ballot. There is only one of you. Pretty simple. Its checked against voter database. One person, one vote. If two people vote as the same person, pretty easy to catch.

You'd have to be a retarded person to not understand how that works. Your identity is on the ballot. Only one person can claim that ballot... LOL pretty easy. I guess when you're family is retarded you dont stand a chance at being of average intelligence.

[Ooloo]

"We know you are allowed to vote because it's checked against a database, which is impervious to any manipulation. I'm simply content in the hope that hey, *somebody* other than me is making sure it's all kosher (when we win)!"

The first time a political party *wins* an election and then insists on a recount will be the first time I believe they have any modicum of integrity.

[Gravydoo II]

No idea but that's kind of irrelevant and also a terrible argument! And I'm not baler!

"It's okay if some illegal votes are counted because uhhh I dunno, most of them weren't!"

It's as if election fraud need only occur in a couple specific counties in a couple specific states to swing a national election, and that should concern you regardless of which team you support!

How does an illegal immigrant claim a ballot, exactly?

Have you people ever voted in your lives..? Where do these immigrants go to get the ballots?? They gonna request an absentee ballot or something? LOL so fucking retarded.. How are they going to be checked against the voter registrations? Again, actual retarded people think of shit like "illegals without an SSN are going to vote on a ballot that wont count omg scarryyy!!"

[Ooloo]

How does an illegal immigrant claim a ballot, exactly?

Have you people ever voted in your lives..? Where do these immigrants go to get the ballots?? They gonna request an absentee ballot or something? LOL so fucking retarded.. How are they going to be checked against the voter registrations? Again, actual retarded people think of shit like "illegals without an SSN are going to vote on a ballot that wont count omg scarryyy!!"

Haha okay, so you just have unwaivering faith in voter registrations instead. How do you register to vote? Do you have to present an ID? Yes, obviously. Which means either voter registration or voting itself is racist now. Oh dear!

[Ooloo]

When I want to buy beer at the gas station, and they ask for my ID, why is that?

Just think about it.

[Gravydoo II]

Wow thats just fucking retarded. I guess its possible that someone has been inserted in every single county in the USA, worked their way up to supervisor of elections, added thousands of illegal immigrants without an SSN to the voter rolls, then made up identities for them, personally handed them out to each person...

Oh wait im not retarded.

[Reiwa]

Wow thats just fucking retarded. I guess its possible that someone has been inserted in every single county in the USA, worked their way up to supervisor of elections, added thousands of illegal immigrants without an SSN to the voter rolls, then made up identities for them, personally handed them out to each person...

Oh wait im not retarded.

It's fine. Every moment they spend blowing smoke about fraud is a moment not spent rolling back covid expansions. :p

[Horza]

Just go ahead and say there were 11,780 illegal votes for Biden in Georgia already, paste eater.

[Kich867]

When I want to buy beer at the gas station, and they ask for my ID, why is that?

Just think about it.

What are you like 12? I can't even remember the last time I was ID'd. No wonder you've got these takes you're still graduating high school lol.

[Ooloo]

Hey cool four whole posts in a row that took pot shots at me and didn't answer a single question.

[Gravydoo II]

Haha okay, so you just have unwaivering faith in voter registrations instead. How do you register to vote? Do you have to present an ID? Yes, obviously. Which means either voter registration or voting itself is racist now. Oh dear!

No, you dont. You fill out your identity on the ballot. If you lie, its called voter fraud.

I know you need a card to read off of to remember your name, address, SSN etc, but most people dont. They know it by heart because their parents didnt drink budweiser 24/7 while they were pregnant. I know this is hard for you but we have these things in place which catch the people who cheat. So far, all republicans caught. Imagine that.

[Ooloo]

No, you dont. You fill out your identity on the ballot. If you lie, its called voter fraud.

And how do they know if you lie? Do they need like, your information, such as your SSN or address or a photo of you with information they can cross check, to ensure you are legally allowed to vote in our elections?

You're still not getting it.

[Horza]

Trumptards claim illegal immigrants are voting in large enough numbers to sway presidential elections but have no evidence of widespread fraud.

I'm just tired of trusting the plan :p

[Gravydoo II]

there could be vampires voting in our elections. Everyone should have to present their proof that they are not a vampire before they vote.

You are presumed a vampire until you prove otherwise with your human papers. You are not innocent until proven guilty. You're an immigrant until you prove you're american.

We need a new form of ID to prove you're not a vampire. They come here, take our night jobs, vote for DEMONcrats!

See how fucking stupid that sounds..? Thats what you sound like.

Show me all the illegal immigrants that voted.

[unsunghero]

“Today, everything is different. Pretty much every single indicator that pointed to a Democratic wave in the 2018 midterms now points to a Republican one in the 2022 midterms”

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.cnn.com/cnn/2021/12/12/politics/midterm-election-2022-republican-wave/index.html

I’m stoked to watch Democrats gracefully accept the L. I honestly expect they will, mostly because of how hypocritical they will look if they didn’t

[Reiwa]

“Today, everything is different. Pretty much every single indicator that pointed to a Democratic wave in the 2018 midterms now points to a Republican one in the 2022 midterms”


2018 is prior to the 2020 expansions. The data point is useless, we're in the jungle now.

[Horza]

Most Democrats aren't seditious traitors like the GOP base hth

[Elizondo]

lol Horza creating strawmen that have nothin to do with the rigged 2020 election

Meanwhile Brandon already tryin to cast doubt on the 2022 midterms cuz dems might lose bigly

Most Democrats aren't seditious traitors like the GOP base hth

lol dude

99% of dems are traitorous scum. They hate the USA.

[unsunghero]

we're in the jungle now.

And it’s looking beautiful. I love the woods

[Horza]

lol Horza creating strawmen that have nothin to do with the rigged 2020 election

Meanwhile Brandon already tryin to cast doubt on the 2022 midterms cuz dems might lose bigly



lol dude

99% of dems are traitorous scum. They hate the USA.

Just because I'd like to see any evidence at all of your idiotic election rigging theory doesn't mean I hate the country, paste eater.

[Elizondo]

Just because I'd like to see any evidence at all of your idiotic election rigging theory doesn't mean I hate the country, paste eater.

omg dude rofl

for 4 years you claimed russia hacked the election without any evidence whatsoever and now you're pretending senile joey received 80 million votes

rofl you funny man

[unsunghero]

One of the downsides of mail in voting is that it encourages Horza’s agoraphobia

If he had to work up the courage to physically go to a polling station, then he might also gain the courage to hop on his bike with 2 wobbly flat tires collecting cobwebs outside, ride that to a bus stop, pay for a day bus pass, take a bus to CVS, and get that vaccine

[F0rmsh1fter]

Just because I'd like to see any evidence at all of your idiotic election rigging theory doesn't mean I hate the country, paste eater.

If you’re a lefty you hate America, because every policy you support weakens America
If you’re a conservative you hate America, because every policy you support strengthens Israel at our expense

[F0rmsh1fter]

One of the downsides of mail in voting is that it encourages Horza’s agoraphobia

If he had to work up the courage to physically go to a polling station, then he might also gain the courage to hop on his bike with 2 wobbly flat tires collecting cobwebs outside, ride that to a bus stop, pay for a day bus pass, take a bus to CVS, and get that vaccine

>implying got a has been able to fit through doors in the last 2 decades lol

[Ooloo]

Trumptards claim illegal immigrants are voting in large enough numbers to sway presidential elections but have no evidence of widespread fraud.

I'm just tired of trusting the plan :p

Here let me translate:

"Who cares if illegal immigrants are voting, I'm totally taking it on faith that it doesn't matter at all, and it doesn't influence the outcome of a single local, state or national election and I'm totally 100% sure that it never could and if you just want to have an ID to vote you're a crazy conspiracy theorist!".

Like it seriously has never occured to you that illegal voting *cant be measured* by definition, and that republicans are simply erring on the side of caution to prevent it rather than just hoping it's minimal enough to not effect anything? This is like logic 101.

[Ooloo]

"2020 was the most secure election in history, but also we need to make all these changes to make sure the next one is even extra-secur-er, otherwise the outcome might be illegitimate!"

Like thanks franz kafka, I've read your books, I know how this works.

[Elizondo]

There should be an independent Special Council appointed by Pubs to investigate the 2020 election if they win the mid terms

They also need to impeach Biden day 1

[unsunghero]

There should be an independent Special Council appointed by Pubs to investigate the 2020 election if they win the mid terms

They also need to impeach Biden day 1

Subpoena Biden’s staff endlessly in regards to Hunter Biden’s emails regarding Ukraine, and when they refuse to go be caught in perjury traps, charge them with contempt of Congress and say “you don’t want to come testify, that’s what a guilty person would do”

The possibilities really are endless

[Horza]

You never did say how many illegal immigrants you think actually voted for Biden, and it can't be measured by definition isn't an answer.

[Knowledge]

The mafia did not end with the fall of Dapper Don. The U.S. Government IS the real mafia.

[Gravydoo II]

I guess if you "feel" like people voted as illegal immigrants, it must have happened. They are the party of feelings.

They have to protect the feelings of racists, too. Look at the speech they are outlawing in schools. You must remain impartial about slavery, you cannot take a stance against it in schools now. The racists get offended and cry. Thats the whole reason they used CRT as an excuse, their feelings.

[Elizondo]

lol @ Horza still clutching his strawman

[Trexller]

I guess if you "feel" like people voted as illegal immigrants, it must have happened. They are the party of feelings.

They have to protect the feelings of racists, too. Look at the speech they are outlawing in schools. You must remain impartial about slavery, you cannot take a stance against it in schools now. The racists get offended and cry. Thats the whole reason they used CRT as an excuse, their feelings.

really? the party that excuses mentally ill trans freaks as noble freedom fighters aren't the, "party of feelings?"

DD-214

[Horza]

lol @ Horza still clutching his strawman

Hundreds? Thousands? Millions of illegal immigrants voting for Biden? Just give us a ballpark figure or something already.

[Gravydoo II]

In the fall, Texas state Rep. Matt Krause, a Republican, released a list of about 850 books that he claimed “make students feel discomfort” due to their content about race and sexuality. Krause urged school libraries in Texas to report whether they had any of the books, including titles such as Mikki Kendall’s 2020 nonfiction work “Hood Feminism,” Kalynn Bayron’s 2020 young adult novel “Cinderella Is Dead” and Jason Reynolds and Brendan Kiely’s 2015 young adult novel “All American Boys.” A school district in San Antonio removed more than 400 books that were on Krause’s list last month. In a statement, the school district said it is reviewing the content to “ensure the books are accessible based on age appropriateness.”


Look at the feelings... Gotta protect the feelings of the kids!! The kids!! Its not cause we HATE black authors speaking about being marginalized in america. We FEEL like kids shouldnt read these books cause they might be "uncomfortable".

Is that not the most pussy ass excuse you've ever heard in your entire life?? Always with the feelings, these republicans.

[Jibartik]

speaking of illegal immigrants isnt it ironic that the same political party that had slaves seems to want to make sure this practice continues...

[Elizondo]

Hundreds? Thousands? Millions of illegal immigrants voting for Biden? Just give us a ballpark figure or something already.

bro take your strawman and shove it up your keester

votes from illegal aliens were a drop in the bucket compared to the mountain of other fraud that happened. First Reiwa starts a pointless debate and now you. it's all distraction. 81 million folks did not vote for that senile old moron.

hope that helps

[Horza]

bro take your strawman and shove it up your keester

votes from illegal aliens were a drop in the bucket compared to the mountain of other fraud that happened. First Reiwa starts a pointless debate and now you. it's all distraction. 81 million folks did not vote for that senile old moron.

hope that helps

Unfortunately for Republican crybabies, the courts all disagree with you.

[starkind]

https://i.imgur.com/jygMAig.jpeg

[Reiwa]

Unfortunately for Republican crybabies, the courts all disagree with you.

The courts had no authority to intervene! That's what it makes it such good mischief. :p

[F0rmsh1fter]

omg dude rofl

for 4 years you claimed russia hacked the election without any evidence whatsoever and now you're pretending senile joey received 80 million votes

rofl you funny man

Dementia patient gets more votes than first “black” president

Totally believable guys just accept it

[Knowledge]

81 million folks did not vote for that senile old moron

Hope that helps

You got 150 million chanting Let's Go Brandon.

Both the Republicans and Dems are in the Illuminati so both sides will be pedos until God destroys it all.

she isn’t Latina enough for the role Because I'm a white Latina, I hold a lot of privilege

This shit will never go away until... God destroys it all.

It's going to destroy the sphere that humans infest.

[unsunghero]

Trump campaigning like a madman in 2020

The mainstream media to Joe Biden: “Shhh stay inside your basement. We gochu fam”

[Gravydoo II]

America would have voted for a shoe over rape daddy.

[unsunghero]

America would have voted for a shoe over rape daddy.

I’m actually down to try a shoe for a pres

Can’t do anything good but also can’t fuck anything up

[Gravydoo II]

Alaskan town elects a dog as mayor every year.. not very progressive.

[Ooloo]

You never did say how many illegal immigrants you think actually voted for Biden, and it can't be measured by definition isn't an answer.

I also never did say I thought illegals voting changed the outcome of the 2020 national election specifically. That's hardly the only concern though.

Illegal immigrants voting in local and state elections, especially in border states obviously, is a major concern, when the outcomes of those elections can come down to a matter of hundreds of votes or less, and they often effect people's actual lives much more than federal elections do.

[unsunghero]

I also never did say I thought illegals voting changed the outcome of the 2020 national election specifically. That's hardly the only concern though.

Illegal immigrants voting in local and state elections, especially in border states obviously, is a major concern, when the outcomes of those elections can come down to a matter of hundreds of votes or less, and they often effect people's actual lives much more than federal elections do.

Interestingly enough, if they are citizen Hispanics on the border, they vote red because they get sick of the endless waves of illegals and cartel marching through their ranches

https://thehill.com/opinion/immigration/582970-hispanic-support-for-republicans-hardline-immigration-policies-may-keep?amp

https://www.washingtonpost.com/national/texas-latino-republicans/2020/11/09/17a15422-1f92-11eb-ba21-f2f001f0554b_story.html

[Gravydoo II]

Someone explain to me how an illegal immigrant votes. Tell me the process, cause it sounds like none of you have ever voted before..

[Ooloo]

Interestingly enough, if they are citizen Hispanics on the border, they vote red because they get sick of the endless waves of illegals and cartel marching through their ranches

https://thehill.com/opinion/immigration/582970-hispanic-support-for-republicans-hardline-immigration-policies-may-keep?amp

https://www.washingtonpost.com/national/texas-latino-republicans/2020/11/09/17a15422-1f92-11eb-ba21-f2f001f0554b_story.html

Yeah exactly. Legal immigrants who vote red are yet another demographic that the left likes to pretend aren't real.

[Ooloo]

Someone explain to me how an illegal immigrant votes. Tell me the process, cause it sounds like none of you have ever voted before..

Correct, it's not necessarily easy for illegal immigrants to vote, depending on what state we're talking about, but it does still happen all the time.

The reason republicans opposed the dems moronic "voting rights" bills was because they would make it much *easier* for illegal immigrants to vote, not to mention undermine general election integrity in a dozen other ways.

[Gravydoo II]

Someone tell me how someone does it. You'd have to steal someone's identity, get an ID in their name requiring a birth certificate, SSN card, that would have to be checked against the census database, etc.

Even without ID, you'd have to request a ballot in someone else' name and have it sent to your house or a po box or something. Then hope that person didnt vote in person, request a mail in ballot, or registers to vote again. SOOOO many things would have to go perfectly for ONE person to get away with it.

Just, how? How could someone do it? Mail in voting?? Again, you'd have to steal someone's identity, vote for them, then hope they didnt vote in person or ask for a ballot at a different house.

You guys got all these conspiracies about illegals voting and you cant even tell me how they do it..

[Jibartik]

Someone explain to me how an illegal immigrant votes. Tell me the process, cause it sounds like none of you have ever voted before..

Most illegal aliens have the required ID's and home addresses to register to vote.

It's very easy to exist in the usa as a citizen if you live here and you work for min wage.

[Botten]

Yeah exactly. Legal immigrants who vote red are yet another demographic that the left likes to pretend aren't real.

So we are just going to ignore:

Republicans in 7 states submitted documents falsely certifying the election for Trump. Most State Attorneys General are investigating if it constitutes fraud. (https://www.businessinsider.com.au/republicans-7-states-tried-falsely-certify-election-to-trump-2022-1?_ga=2.151224505.1485712996.1642530285-1217143129.1642530285&r)

I can't just understand how you can be part of the most corrupt political party that results to fakenews on immigrants stealing the election for Biden.

You have to be extremely sick in the head to have this propaganda manipulate you.

I saw your complaint from Tom Tucker about the Brown M&M and his thought that it didn't looking sexy enough for him. WHAT IS WRONG WITH YOU!??

seek help Baler.

[Gravydoo II]

Who Can Vote?
You can vote in U.S. federal, state, and local elections if you:

Are a U.S. citizen (some areas allow non-citizens to vote in local elections only)

Meet your state’s residency requirements

You can be homeless (PDF, Download Adobe Reader) and still meet these requirements.

Are 18 years old on or before Election Day
In almost every state, you can register to vote before you turn 18 if you will be 18 by Election Day.

Are registered to vote by your state’s voter registration deadline. North Dakota does not require voter registration.


Who CAN’T Vote?
Non-citizens, including permanent legal residents cannot vote in federal, state, and most local elections.
Some people with felony convictions. Rules vary by state. Check with your state elections office about the laws in your state.
Some people who are mentally incapacitated. Rules vary by state.
For president in the general election: U.S. citizens residing in U.S. territories
Check with your state or local election office for any questions about who can and cannot vote.


Sounds like you just REALLY hate the idea of your first great grand parents or whoever came here first, getting to vote. Their kids shouldnt have been able to vote either, right? Anchor babies, right? That would make all your families nothing but a bunch of vote stealing immigrants..

[Gravydoo II]

Most illegal aliens have the required ID's and home addresses to register to vote.

It's very easy to exist in the usa as a citizen if you live here and you work for min wage.

How is it easy to live on 15,840 a year, exactly?

[Jibartik]

edit: Har har.. exist meaning live and operate a noraml existance. Not implying a happy one.

There is not some intelligent database that cross-references all that stuff.

If you have an address and an ID that anyone can get, you can get your name on that list to vote.

[Gravydoo II]

Show me. You keep saying this shit but show me.

Remember when you guys were saying obama was an illegal immigrant, too? He was elected illegally!

This is just the tea-partys rebranded bullshit. Always immigrants.

[Gravydoo II]

Thats BiG SiP, not baler. Or one of those other guys. Who knows. Could be snortles

[Reiwa]

Who Can Vote For President?


States. :p

[Horza]

Correct, it's not necessarily easy for illegal immigrants to vote, depending on what state we're talking about, but it does still happen all the time.

Well I guess we'll just have to take your word for it then, paste eating moron.

[Ooloo]

If you're in the country illegally you shouldn't be able to vote. If you're in the country legally you should, unless you're a felon. And even then, I think felons should be able to vote again after they've served their time.

It's all well and good if you've been living and working here illegally for twenty years, great, so? Go through the process to become legal and you can vote. I wouldn't expect to be able to vote in another country's elections without doing a LOT of formal, legal paperwork first. Why is this so controversial? It's so weird. Has literally zero to do with racism, or xenophobia or anything.

More black people voted republican in 2020 than any other election ever, yet I'm supposed to believe republicans are now trying to suppress their fastest-growing constituency in order to.... steal the election?

Yes let's get fewer people to vote for us. In order to win, we definitely need fewer votes. Right, totally.

[Jibartik]

Yeah I agree with horza, it's actually extremely easy to vote as one.

It's hard to require a bunch of things from non registered citizens like insurance and identification and stuff but not allow them to vote, unless you create a voter ID system.

[Ooloo]

Well I guess we'll just have to take your word for it then, paste eating moron.

Oh give me a break, I could easily provide *detailed* sources for all this and you'd find some way to dismiss all of it. You're allergic to actual good faith discussions.

[Gravydoo II]

Not fake electors or the military seizing the voting machines. Weird how you guys tried to do that on the right but you're the patriots. Sending fake electors? LOL

[Horza]

Oh give me a break, I could easily provide *detailed* sources for all this and you'd find some way to dismiss all of it. You're allergic to actual good faith discussions.

If you can provide actual sources that support the talking points you mindlessly repeat from Tucker's show, then go ahead and post a link for us.

[Elizondo]

Unfortunately for Republican crybabies, the courts all disagree with you.

nah man

all those lawsuits were tossed on technicalities and standing cuz they either cowards or dem lapdogs

not the evidence bro

[Ooloo]

If you can provide actual sources that support the talking points you mindlessly repeat from Tucker's show, then go ahead and post a link for us.

No, because again I know this request is completely in bad faith. How about you simply research it yourself?

You can't argue that illegal immigrants aren't even voting, and also that republicans want to suppress their votes... if they aren't even voting, it would make no sense to have an evil plan to prevent them from voting.

Be a legal citizen and have a valid ID and you can vote! It's really not a big ask.

[Reiwa]

It's all well and good if you've been living and working here illegally for twenty years, great, so? Go through the process to become legal and you can vote. I wouldn't expect to be able to vote in another country's elections without doing a LOT of formal, legal paperwork first. Why is this so controversial? It's so weird.

What about work visas?

No taxation without representation. :p

[Elizondo]

No, because again I know this request is completely in bad faith. How about you simply research it yourself?

You can't argue that illegal immigrants aren't even voting, and also that republicans want to suppress their votes... if they aren't even voting, it would make no sense to have an evil plan to prevent them from voting.

Be a legal citizen and have a valid ID and you can vote! It's really not a big ask.

The entire convo a total waste of time

Horza and his cronies keep tossin up pointless strawmen to bicker about cuz Biden a total failure and they have egg all over their faces

[Ooloo]

What about work visas?

No taxation without representation. :p

If you have a legal work visa, then you aren't living and working here illegally. Although, that still doesn't necessarily mean you're qualified to help choose the next president. That's a completely separate issue though, because work visas aren't illegal. Still you could probably persuade me that such people should be able to vote, or if not should be taxed differently (which they are).

[Reiwa]

If you have a legal work visa, then you aren't living and working here illegally. Although, that still doesn't necessarily mean you're qualified to help choose the next president. That's a completely separate issue though, because work visas aren't illegal.

They aren't citizens but do pay taxes. Have we strayed so far from the ideas of our Founders?

[Horza]

No, because again I know this request is completely in bad faith. How about you simply research it yourself?

You can't argue that illegal immigrants aren't even voting, and also that republicans want to suppress their votes... if they aren't even voting, it would make no sense to have an evil plan to prevent them from voting.

Be a legal citizen and have a valid ID and you can vote! It's really not a big ask.

If you'd rather smugly tell people to do their own research instead of posting a link to your alleged source, then I'll just continue to assume you're completely full of shit.

[Elizondo]

If you'd rather smugly tell people to do their own research instead of posting a link to your alleged source, then I'll just continue to assume you're completely full of shit.

If it matters that much to you go look it up man

you're just proving his point with your response

[Horza]

If it matters that much to you go look it up man

you're just proving his point with your response

It's because there is no source, at least one that isn't embarrassingly stupid, Infowars-tier crap.

[Elizondo]

It's because there is no source, at least one that isn't embarrassingly stupid, Infowars-tier crap.

nah man

the entire point is that any interaction with you is a clownshow and never a good faith discussion

Your responses continue to prove that

[unsunghero]

They aren't citizens but do pay taxes. Have we strayed so far from the ideas of our Founders?

They only pay sales tax on the items they buy to my knowledge unless they have a stolen SS?

I guess if they purchase a home they could be paying property tax? Not sure how that works when undocumented. They do utilize police and FD which gets funds from property taxes so if they don’t pay property taxes they are a drain on these services without contributing

[Jibartik]

I would like to complain about the supply chain breakdown.

This is absurd. It's been like a full year that we've been using this excuse for the myriad of problems we're going through.

Well what the f is there a supply chain break down for if we have a national guard, or an army core of engineers, or a military?

Why is the goverment not even attempting to solve this issue?

[Horza]

nah man

the entire point is that any interaction with you is a clownshow and never a good faith discussion

Your responses continue to prove that

Cowardly Fox News viewers insist other people do their research for them while making outlandish, stupid claims.

[unsunghero]

Another interesting question is just how many illegals are here now?

We have no way of really knowing, even our guesses are wild. The last estimated figure was like 25 million but that was decades ago. I’ve heard reports now it could be more like 35 million all the way to around 50 million

To Dems though it’s not really about how many might be here. When you ask, they only will have one answer: not enough

[Reiwa]

They only pay sales tax on the items they buy to my knowledge unless they have a stolen SS?

I guess if they purchase a home they could be paying property tax? Not sure how that works when undocumented. They do utilize police and FD which gets funds from property taxes so if they don’t pay property taxes they are a drain on these services without contributing

That'll be $5 (https://www.cga.ct.gov/2003/olrdata/lab/rpt/2003-R-0475.htm#:~:text=In%20general%2C%20foreign%20worke rs%20in,these%20workers%20from%20U.%20S.%20taxes.)

[Jibartik]

What happens if you file a tax return without citizenship if you have a residence and drivers license and insurance. Like in the case you were getting payed by mcdonalds or something.

[unsunghero]

See when it comes to illegals, I think progressive

Sure they undercut wages by working low skill jobs for cash under the table, but they also sometimes truck in shitloads of opiates. And the way I see it, if I didn’t provide my depressed friend the means to kill himself, someone else would or he would have found a way himself. So in a way, the cartel are actually heroes

Same for the ones that smuggle kids into the USA. Getting raped at every campsite for a 2000+ mile walk is a small price to pay for a better life. How dare the evil members of ICE give those kids who have no parent that’s locatable anywhere drugs to treat PTSD without parent consent. Just let them ponder the rapes, and remind them that they’re for a good cause

[Ooloo]

Cowardly Fox News viewers insist other people do their research for them while making outlandish, stupid claims.

No it's just that people like you have demonstrated for years now that actual sources and evidence are worth precisely zero in any internet debate, it would simply be a waste of my time to find them.

Here's a hint though: It's not a major issue to a majority of americans for no reason. Occam's razor is your friend.

[Horza]

No it's just that people like you have demonstrated for years now that actual sources and evidence are worth precisely zero in any internet debate, it would simply be a waste of my time to find them.

Here's a hint though: It's not a major issue to a majority of americans for no reason. Occam's razor is your friend.

It's pretty obvious your source is either embarrassingly stupid or nonexistent, or you'd have just posted a link to it after the fourth request.

[unsunghero]

And I personally don’t mind having lots of them settle on Phoenix where I live. I don’t mind waiting on hold for non-emergent Phoenix police in my job for 20 minutes because a developmentally delayed adult who’s getting a little slappy with staff at the group home is a completely inappropriate reason to use 911

So put me on hold for 20 minutes non-emergent phx pd line. The more people to my city, the merrier! Great air quality too!

[Gravydoo II]

Wait, didnt that guy say that "trade wars are great, we will win. We always win trade wars. Tariffs are good. This wont cause any problems in the future."

[Ooloo]

It's pretty obvious your source is either embarrassingly stupid or nonexistent, or you'd have just posted a link to it after the fourth request.

So.. you are ostensibly saying illegal voting *isn't* a problem? I mean, I could easily ask you for your sources on why it isn't a problem too. And no you can't say that I made the claim therefor I carry the burden of proof, because "it isn't a problem" is just you responding with the opposite claim, which you'd now be required to prove.

Again if you had any faith in what you're saying, the fact that I didn't provide a source shouldn't matter. I'm specifically choosing not to out of principle just for you

[Ooloo]

This is actually the entire problem with the "there's no evidence" people; a lack of evidence isn't just equally as valuable as evidence.

For example "There's no evidence the covid vaccine carries long term risks" is a totally useless statement. We can't possibly know if it carries long term risks until it has existed in the long term, so yes technically it's true there's "no evidence" of longterm effects because that evidence can't exist yet by definition. 5 years of proven safety and efficacy and I'd bite, but they aren't even exhibiting 5 *months* of efficacy now, much less long term safety which, again, is a totally open question.

[Gravydoo II]

Theres been over ten billion ballots cast in the past 20 years.. Pretty sure thats a large enough sample size.

[Ooloo]

Horza, you claimed that illegal voting isn't a problem. Where is your source? I've asked repeatedly now.

[Horza]

Horza, you claimed that illegal voting isn't a problem. Where is your source? I've asked repeatedly now.

Trump’s own head of cybersecurity said that the 2020 election was the most secure in the country's history.

[starkind]

Watching proof / news posts get scrubbed real time and replaced with a picture of the queen and a kid on imgur is always a giggle.

Most recent one was piles of cash (bolivar) thrown out in Venezuela. Because it is worthless.

[Reiwa]

So.. you are ostensibly saying illegal voting *isn't* a problem? I mean, I could easily ask you for your sources on why it isn't a problem too. And no you can't say that I made the claim therefor I carry the burden of proof, because "it isn't a problem" is just you responding with the opposite claim, which you'd now be required to prove.

Again if you had any faith in what you're saying, the fact that I didn't provide a source shouldn't matter. I'm specifically choosing not to out of principle just for you

Disproving a negative is beyond the scope of forumquest.

[Botten]

Trump’s own head of cybersecurity said that the 2020 election was the most secure in the country's history.

Exactly!

And Baler doesn’t dare link a source because his sources are opinions of Fox hosts, Facebook or his family.

Or worst of all his logical and sense of faith.

Him and Ezilundo both are embarrassed link after link by professionals that make them look laughable. Or worse you have Ezilundo posting FakeNews while calling anything that proves him wrong as Fakenews.

.

[starkind]

What I'm saying is u have to bribe the queen 2 be prez.


The change in the statute has potential implications for Venezuelan assets held abroad, including some $1.9bn of gold held in the vaults of the Bank of England. The UK says the money belongs to Guaidó’s administration, not Maduro’s, arguing that Guaidó is Venezuela’s rightful leader.


And if u don't. Ur money is n'wah poopoo!

"Also aliens r fake"

[Trexller]

Joe Biden’s Approval Ratings are going down faster than Kamala Harris for career advancement.

[Elizondo]

Cowardly Fox News viewers insist other people do their research for them while making outlandish, stupid claims.

lol dude

You're a total joke. If you wanted to actually have a discussion with the guy you would make the effort. You never do.

[Ooloo]

Disproving a negative is beyond the scope of forumquest.

Okay fine. Horza has claimed that only allowing legal citizens to vote is a problem.

[Elizondo]

Okay fine. Horza has claimed that only allowing legal citizens to vote is a problem.

You guys are wasting your time even engaging that guy. He's a total empty headed lightweight just distracting peepz and leading them out into the weeds on shit that is totally irrelevant cuz Biden is a confirmed failure

[Horza]

Who knew just asking for a link to your source would make all you paste eaters so angry?

[unsunghero]

Who knew just asking for a link to your source would make all you paste eaters so angry?

We’ve gone round and round about this on other topics

Horza_bot: post your source racist
Me: [posts source]
Horza_bot: (without reading) lol right wing garbage
Me: Not my fault your partisan news doesn’t cover this because it looks bad for their political agenda

And yes this can go both ways, the only difference is I will usually read the partisan propaganda rag Horza posts. But his programming isn’t advanced enough to do that so the script defaults to “lol right wing”

[Elizondo]

Who knew just asking for a link to your source would make all you paste eaters so angry?

total waste of time topic and a distraction

sorry biden is so terrible and you have never posted anything positive about him, ever

[Ooloo]

You guys are wasting your time even engaging that guy. He's a total empty headed lightweight just distracting peepz and leading them out into the weeds on shit that is totally irrelevant cuz Biden is a confirmed failure

Oh I know, it's just fun to see how blatantly transparent he'll be about it. Like you could post a dissertation on all the ways biden is failing, that he could easily try to dispute, but his response will be "trump lost paste eater", which is actually funny cause he's like actively participating in the running joke about how he never actually answers anything.

[starkind]

whats really sad is i agree a lot with the right wingers here i just think their political leaders are just as bad and why is newt gingrich even a thing still and why the fuck is biden president?

oh people who didn't vote for ms warren in the primaries

and ya even she is a carpetbagger

[starkind]

whats really sad is i agree a lot with the right wingers here i just think their political leaders are just as bad and why is newt gingrich even a thing still and why the fuck is biden president?

oh people who didn't vote for ms warren in the primaries

and ya even she is a carpetbagger

[Jibartik]

Wonder where we’d be if we elected Bernie Sanders in 2016.

I’ll bet you Democrats and republicans would say that we’d be way worse off.

[Horza]

Wouldn't it be easier to just post a source proving tons of illegals voted for Biden already instead of whining for half a dozen pages about how mean people who didn't vote for your rape daddy are?

[Gravydoo II]

Its easier to dive into your FEELINGS than it is to actually prove what you're talking about.

I FEEL like biden won, he won. So he won. Its settled. My feelings told me he won, just look at AZ. Look at all those ballots that tried to cheat for rape daddy. So much fraud in the RD race.

[F0rmsh1fter]

Its easier to dive into your FEELINGS than it is to actually prove what you're talking about.

Liberalism, in a single sentence

Thank you gavy

[Elizondo]

Wouldn't it be easier to just post a source proving tons of illegals voted for Biden already instead of whining for half a dozen pages about how mean people who didn't vote for your rape daddy are?

Markets tanking. Inflation out of control. China being more aggressive in Taiwan. Russia and Ukraine might light up. Crime runnin rampant and nobody being prosecuted by dem AGs. Supply chain in crisis. Gas prices through the roof. ect. ect.ect.

Clown Poster Horza wants everyone to prove to him exactly how many illegals voted in 2020 when the borders were actually secure

he's literally the dumbest poster ever. total waste of time to take him seriously.

[Horza]

Tucker: M&M’s will not be satisfied until every last cartoon character is deeply unappealing and totally androgynous. Until the moment you wouldn’t want to have a drink with any one of them. That’s the goal. When you’re totally turned off, we’ve achieved equity. (https://twitter.com/Acyn/status/1484723825606479872)

[F0rmsh1fter]

Markets tanking. Inflation out of control. China being more aggressive in Taiwan. Russia and Ukraine might light up. Crime runnin rampant and nobody being prosecuted by dem AGs. Supply chain in crisis. Gas prices through the roof. ect. ect.ect.

Clown Poster Horza wants everyone to prove to him exactly how many illegals voted in 2020 when the borders were actually secure

he's literally the dumbest poster ever. total waste of time to take him seriously.

Don’t forget they just confirmed that biden got 31 million from people directly tied to Chinese intel

Ol China hoe is destroying America for Chinese money

[Elizondo]

Don’t forget they just confirmed that biden got 31 million from people directly tied to Chinese intel

Ol China hoe is destroying America for Chinese money

yea man but Tucker ran a segment on trans M&Ms so he got one over on the conservatives or something

lol he's such a pathetic joke

[Horza]

yea man but Tucker ran a segment on trans M&Ms so he got one over on the conservatives or something

lol he's such a pathetic joke

It's not my fault you retards are up in arms because some candy apparently isn't sexy enough for Fox News talking heads.

[Jibartik]

Tucker: M&M’s will not be satisfied until every last cartoon character is deeply unappealing and totally androgynous. Until the moment you wouldn’t want to have a drink with any one of them. That’s the goal. When you’re totally turned off, we’ve achieved equity. (https://twitter.com/Acyn/status/1484723825606479872)

M&M's new mascots

https://i.imgur.com/QcnUIE2.png

[Gravydoo II]

Don’t forget they just confirmed that biden got 31 million from people directly tied to Chinese intel

Ol China hoe is destroying America for Chinese money

"they" say a lot of stuff you guys repeat. Every time we ask who "they" is, you guys say "ha do your own research!" or something stupid like that.

Sure sure, 31 million ballots. Why not 32? Why stop there? Why not all the votes from democrats? We all know that you feel only republican votes (white people) are the only legitimate votes. Just say it.

You're well past hiding anything. We know you're a raging anti-semite already.

[Elizondo]

"they" say a lot of stuff you guys repeat. Every time we ask who "they" is, you guys say "ha do your own research!" or something stupid like that.

Sure sure, 31 million ballots. Why not 32? Why stop there? Why not all the votes from democrats? We all know that you feel only republican votes (white people) are the only legitimate votes. Just say it.

You're well past hiding anything. We know you're a raging anti-semite already.

31 billion dollars dude ....

[Horza]

31 billion dollars dude ....

jTmXHvGZiSY

[robayon]

Current events got my hackles up

[Trexller]

Even the alt-left liberals are sick of Biden, and are predicting a massive red wave in Nov, 2022

Todd, citing the poll, declared Biden's 43% approval rating showed he'd "lost his identity," and was "no longer seen as competent and effective" in the eyes of voters, spelling a potential "shellacking" for Democrats in November.

"President Biden’s news conference on Wednesday was designed to kick off a second year reset of his presidency, recapture his political identity, if you will, but our new NBC News poll suggests Mr. Biden does need a reset because he's lost his identity a bit," Todd said,

https://www.foxnews.com/media/joe-biden-competent-effective-nbc-chuck-todd

Let's Go Brandon!

[Horza]

Trump was below forty percent this time four years ago. How's that second meme coming or are the paste eaters at Fox News too busy complaining about how their candy isn't sexy enough?

[Knowledge]

Let's go Brandon.

[Ooloo]

Yeah trump didn't have great approval ratings cause half his party hated his guts. So he had all democrats against him and like 50% of republicans at least voted for him begrudgingly or actively don't like him.

There were no "never-Bideners" in the dem party, and yet he's managed to plummet to abysmally terrible numbers.

It's actually kind of unifying, when you think about it.

[Trexller]

Horza, you watch more Tucker Carlson than Tucker Carlson.

I myself, do not watch Tucker. You do.

what does that tell you?

[Reiwa]

There were no "never-Bideners" in the dem party, and yet he's managed to plummet to abysmally terrible numbers.

https://i.imgur.com/6srWprv.png

There were plenty on the hotdog forums.

[Jibartik]

It's pretty ridiculous how awful this year has been.

[Horza]

Horza, you watch more Tucker Carlson than Tucker Carlson.

I myself, do not watch Tucker. You do.

what does that tell you?

Hey, I'm on your side on this one. Make Candy Sexy Again!

[Reiwa]

It's pretty ridiculous how awful this year has been.

this is bait so you can monologue isn't it

[Jibartik]

Nah I just think this is absurd.

Like the idea that we spent the year talking about race theory and bbb instead of mobalizing the national guard to fix the supply chain issues is just one of the many exampels of why I think the administration has really turned this year into an entire shit pile.

Just ask the squad, the administration couldn't even keep itself happy. Total fricken disaster.

Now the shit in europe. The economy is just totally dog shit. The numbers are in, half the amount of people are buying the goods they used to.

We're heading towards another depression and it's pretty obvious that there is zero accountability.

Shit.. that was a monologue wasnt it?

Well then, yes, yes it was Reiwa. :o

[Reiwa]

Nah I just think this is absurd.

Like the idea that we spent the year talking about race theory and bbb instead of mobalizing the national guard to fix the supply chain issues is just one of the many exampels of why I think the administration has really turned this year into an entire shit pile.

Just ask the squad, the administration couldn't even keep itself happy. Total fricken disaster.

Now the shit in europe. The economy is just totally dog shit. The numbers are in, half the amount of people are buying the goods they used to.

We're heading towards another depression and it's pretty obvious that there is zero accountability.

Shit.. that was a monologue wasnt it?

Well then, yes, yes it was Reiwa. :o

:o

[Ooloo]

Approval ratings really are kind of stupid because they carry a sense that everyone is an independent, which obviously they aren't.

However the deafening lack of enthusiasm for biden among dems is hard to ignore. There is NOBODY who is fervently supporting him in his own party the way a hardcore MAGA guy supported trump.

[Jibartik]

Yeah they made it clear that 50% of biden voters did not approve of him when they were voting for them.

But voting for someone they had no faith in I was assured wouldn't result in a complete breakdown of our country and here we are.

[Elizondo]

Biden is a total joke and his supporters are a punchline

[Jibartik]

I cant imagine how it must feel to go on national TV and to accidentally announce to the world that we have nothing to bluff with when it comes to Ukraine anymore and everything we were donig was a bluff, and then to follow that up with an announcement that they're going to start raising our interest rates to make up for the supply chain breakdown that I have seen quite literally ZERO federal support to end.

[Horza]

I'm genuinely shocked the forum's resident Trumptards don't care for a Democratic president.

[Jibartik]

TBH it's the dow jones, no jobs, increasing interest rates, gas prices, drone striking kids while getting back at bumbling terrorists after blowing up 13 Americans, straight up losing billions of dollars and militarily equipment, complete failure in messaging about the pandemic, hospital overcrowding, test shortages..

I honestly dont think you could write a paragraph like this about trump, I'd love to see someone try.

[Elizondo]

I'm genuinely shocked the forum's resident Trumptards don't care for a Democratic president.

Name one positive accomplishment of Joey's puppetry so far brah

Just gimme one

It must be nice to see the world crumbling and think to yourself that you're finally going to be on an even playing field.

Imagine watching the country crumbling and you still think it's 2020 tryin to 'own' conservatives

talk about completely unself aware lol

[robayon]

One positive accomplishment of Joe Biden: normalizing falling asleep at extremely boring meetings

[Ooloo]

I'm genuinely shocked the forum's resident Trumptards don't care for a Democratic president.

Hey I would have voted for Tulsi or Yang (second choice). Dems just utterly failed to offer up anything other than yet another generic establishment swamp monster who hasn't accomplished anything in his 50 years of public office. What a good choice to make president!

"We know you've never done anything noteworthy, ever, in 50 years but maybe year 51 will finally be the magic number! Let's make you president!".

Bunch of retards.

[Ooloo]

One positive accomplishment of Joe Biden: normalizing falling asleep at extremely boring meetings

He falls asleep at meetings that potentially have decades-long ramifications for all the free nations of the world.

It's kinda different than falling asleep at the company's bi-weekly TPS report meeting.

[Gravydoo II]

31 billion dollars dude ....

But you dont care about president getting money from foreign nations. You didnt care when trump was found to have a bank account in china with 12 mil recently deposited into it from the chinese government.

Why do you care now? Even if that was a real number, you didnt care then. Why care now?


This is the difference between us. I can say if thats true, he needs to be put in jail. You wouldnt say that when it was found to be true about RD.

[robayon]

Yeah, it is different, it's a lot funnier than falling asleep at the TPS report meeting because of the ramifications

Hopefully the larger message is gradually absorbed

[Gravydoo II]

Nah I just think this is absurd.

Like the idea that we spent the year talking about race theory and bbb instead of mobalizing the national guard to fix the supply chain issues is just one of the many exampels of why I think the administration has really turned this year into an entire shit pile.

Just ask the squad, the administration couldn't even keep itself happy. Total fricken disaster.

Now the shit in europe. The economy is just totally dog shit. The numbers are in, half the amount of people are buying the goods they used to.

We're heading towards another depression and it's pretty obvious that there is zero accountability.

Shit.. that was a monologue wasnt it?

Well then, yes, yes it was Reiwa. :o

National guard cannot build chassis for semi truck trailers. National guard cannot help with ports. National guard cannot hire more truck drivers or improve their working conditions to make more want to work in that field.

The ports have spaces rented by shipping companies and they store containers and chassis there but many times those chassis and containers are in the wrong place, the ship is not being unloaded there. They wont share them between companies, either. So there are hundreds or thousands of these chassis, laying there, that could be used. They wont share though.

Thats how much they give a fuck about you and me.

Thats most of the problems. There are literally no trailers to put the containers on to haul em away. Then, theres a container shortage too. Then, theres a driver shortage, too. Trucks are out there but they sitting in lots, unable to go.

Companies are building the chassis for the trailiers but they can only make like 100 a week, nationally.

[Elizondo]

But you dont care about president getting money from foreign nations. You didnt care when trump was found to have a bank account in china with 12 mil recently deposited into it from the chinese government.

Why do you care now? Even if that was a real number, you didnt care then. Why care now?


This is the difference between us. I can say if thats true, he needs to be put in jail. You wouldnt say that when it was found to be true about RD.

lol i'm convinced the lefties on elf forums are all collectively goin full retard

you self own and without any shame pivot to deranged rantings about Trump

can't make this stuff up

[Horza]

Biden could personally cure cancer and these Fox News addicts would still say he was a terrible president compared to their rape daddy.

[Elizondo]

Biden could personally cure cancer and these Fox News addicts would still say he was a terrible president compared to their rape daddy.

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[Jibartik]

lol

[Gravydoo II]

lol i'm convinced the lefties on elf forums are all collectively goin full retard

you self own and without any shame pivot to deranged rantings about Trump

can't make this stuff up

You wont say it. You just wont. You're in too deep. If that was true, put em in jail. Now you say it. If RD did something illegal, he belongs in jail. Why is that so hard for you?

If joe biden did something illegal, he belongs in jail. See how easy that was?

Thats the difference, folks. Republicans will forgive ANY crime. Could shoot someone on 5th ave or grab em by the pussy, nothing would happen.

[Horza]

lol

I sense another monologue coming about how bad those pesky Democrats are :p

[Reiwa]

Name one positive accomplishment of Joey's puppetry so far brah

Just gimme one


https://www.childtaxcredit.gov/

WASHINGTON (AP) (https://www.usnews.com/news/politics/articles/2022-01-24/irs-launches-website-for-claiming-part-2-of-child-tax-credit) — The federal government launched a revamped website Monday — the first day of tax filing season — to help people who were eligible for the expanded child tax credit under last year's pandemic relief bill claim the second half of the payment they were due.

[Ooloo]

I sense another monologue coming about how bad those pesky Democrats are :p

Well they actually do suck is the thing. They are ripe for lengthy monologues

[Ooloo]

The red wave in november will be explained away by dems as "See, the country is just getting even more racist so that's why they didn't vote for us"

Whereas, if they had any integrity at all they might say "Gee maybe everything we say and do is awful and regressive, and we turn against our own party members who exhibit even a shred of moderation and everyone hates us and accuses us of being bougie out of touch elitists and we prove them right at every opportunity".

Let's speak only in monologues.

[Elizondo]

https://www.childtaxcredit.gov/

https://www.cnbc.com/2022/01/20/biden-not-sure-child-tax-credit-free-community-college-will-stay-in-bill-.html

“There’s two really big components that I feel strongly about that I’m not sure I can get in the package,” Biden told reporters Wednesday. “One is the childcare tax credit, and the other is help for cost of community colleges.”

First thing on the chopping block and it's technically not a 'tax credit' because there is no work requirement. It's pure welfare and wealth redistribution. Not only that, but there was already a real child tax credit within the TCJA which shocker, actually expected work requirements and merely allowed workin families to keep more of the income they earned

Still waitin for Horza to give at least one example. Not confident he'll provide one because he is a clown poster

[robayon]

http://www.edchange.org/multicultural/speeches/malcolm_x_ballot.html

[Reiwa]

Not only that, but there was already a real child tax credit within the TCJA

TCJA capped the rate of growth for the CTC.

I can see why a dumb person would think that's good though.

[Horza]

Hey I would have voted for Tulsi or Yang (second choice). Dems just utterly failed to offer up anything other than yet another generic establishment swamp monster who hasn't accomplished anything in his 50 years of public office. What a good choice to make president!

"We know you've never done anything noteworthy, ever, in 50 years but maybe year 51 will finally be the magic number! Let's make you president!".

Bunch of retards.

u3UfIPyRlrE

[Reiwa]

TCJA capped the rate of growth for the CTC.

I can see why a dumb person would think that's good though.

Whoops, sorry. A Republican.

Sorry, my finger slipped. :p

[Trexller]

Biden could personally cure cancer and these Fox News addicts would still say he was a terrible president compared to their rape daddy.

that aged well.

also: Please recount your experiences during, and after you received your initial covid-19 vaccination and all booster shots.

Make me a believer.