the i dont care about politics anymore thread

[cd288]

You realize we're about the kill each other over this shit right? Maybe not the elf boards, but the country at large?

It doesn't have to be fraud to be baloney.

The only reason other than fraud that you’d care about mail in voting is because you feel that making voting more easily accessible to everyone benefits one party more than the other.

So which is it? That? Or fraud?

[Kaveh]

You realize we're about the kill each other over this shit right? Maybe not the elf boards, but the country at large?

It doesn't have to be fraud to be a baloney system.

So we should be held hostage by a brain dead minority and the majority should acquiesce to an unqualified candidate whose four years were an unmitigated disaster?

Pass

[Reiwa]

The only reason other than fraud that you’d care about mail in voting is because you feel that making voting more easily accessible to everyone benefits one party more than the other.

So which is it? That? Or fraud?

Jesus is this what they go through everyday talking to us? :o

Feels bad man.

[cd288]

You realize we're about the kill each other over this shit right? Maybe not the elf boards, but the country at large?

It doesn't have to be fraud to be a baloney system.

Also to add, it’s disingenuous to say we’re about to kill each other over this. We’re not about to kill each other over mail in voting. We’re about to kill each other because a whiney sore loser decided to say that it was FRAUDULENT.

Trump could have said oh wow mail in voting is great and tried to use it to his advantage to increase voter turnout. But they could see the numbers were going against him so he just started blaming it on fraud in advance.

If he hadn’t made up this whole fraud thing no one would’ve given a shit about mail in voting. It was available in multiple states before 2020 and no one there was killing each other over it

[Rethalis]

Also to add, it’s disingenuous to say we’re about to kill each other over this. We’re not about to kill each other over mail in voting. We’re about to kill each other because a whiney sore loser decided to say that it was FRAUDULENT.

Trump could have said oh wow mail in voting is great and tried to use it to his advantage to increase voter turnout. But they could see the numbers were going against him so he just started blaming it on fraud in advance.

If he hadn’t made up this whole fraud thing no one would’ve given a shit about mail in voting. It was available in multiple states before 2020 and no one there was killing each other over it

He didn't claim russian interference right?

[Reiwa]

If half the nation objects to ballot access being massively expanded without their approval at the ballot box, is it fair that they should feel socially violated by the change from on high?

[Reiwa]

I am being beaten with political cudgels and I deserve every blow of it. :)

[cd288]

If half the nation objects to ballot access being massively expanded without their approval at the ballot box, is it fair that they should feel socially violated by the change from on high?

Was there a poll taken that you can point us to from like spring or summer 2020 that shows half the nation objected?

If so many people objected why did so many people from both parties utilize mail in voting?

I think what you mean to say is half of the extremists in this country (in this case the extreme right) started objecting once Trump told them to.

[Botten]

lol someone telling me that my money isn't funding bigger government.

Nah you already know your donations are going to pay off Trump’s massive personal debt.

[Reiwa]

Was there a poll taken that you can point us to from like spring or summer 2020 that shows half the nation objected?

If so many people objected why did so many people from both parties utilize mail in voting?

I think what you mean to say is half of the extremists in this country (in this case the extreme right) started objecting once Trump told them to.

Polls are captured, but anyway a direct vote of each state for the election system of each state would be nice instead of [state] executive enactment.

Self-determination and all that trash.

[Skarne]

Wild night

[Rethalis]

Are you the president? You think he should be held to low standards or the highest possible?

They can't even vet a british spy's testimony, and you want me to make an opinion on standards?

[Horza]

You realize we're about the kill each other over this shit right? Maybe not the elf boards, but the country at large?

It doesn't have to be fraud to be a baloney system.

We're not going to do Civil War 2.0 after some obese pedophile gets indicted, it's just going to be more lone wolves suiciding by cop because they're in too deep on social media like the guy in Ohio.

[Elizondo]

Haha another day of Russia Hoax 5 - Keepin the Hope Alive

Idiot groomers want to believe this nonsense so badly

[Reiwa]

Wild night

Prelude to gaslighting?

GIVE ME MORE.

[cd288]

We're not going to do Civil War 2.0 after some obese pedophile gets indicted, it's just going to be more lone wolves suiciding by cop because they're in too deep on social media like the guy in Ohio.

This is probably accurate. I could see it being some larger organized groups doing things like taking over state capitol buildings, but they’ll get killed pretty quickly after that

[Kaveh]

This is probably accurate. I could see it being some larger organized groups doing things like taking over state capitol buildings, but they’ll get killed pretty quickly after that

If by larger you mean obese, I agree

[Botten]

Haha another day of Russia Hoax 5 - Keepin the Hope Alive

Idiot groomers want to believe this nonsense so badly

What a wild week indeed!

Nothing is funnier than watching conservatives totally abandon their morals and principles when they are in trouble.

And this week gave us THREE GREAT examples:

1. In 2016 talking about Hillary Clinton Sarah Huckabee Sanders said if you are attacking the FBI because you are under investigation you are losing. But know that former president Trump is facing a Federal investigation. Sarah is attacking the FBI.

2. Marjorie Taylor Green has called attempts to defund law enforcement radical left wing terrorism. And now she wants to defund the FBI.

3. Trump plead the 5th in response to every question asked of him by New York AG. In the past Trump has had some pretty choice words to say about pleading the 5th

Trump: "Like you see with the mob. You know the mob takes the fifth. If you're innocent, why are you taking the fifth amendment?" (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wPxCAQr26Pc)

So by Trump's own terminology he is guilt.

Funny how the MAGA movement is in worse and worse chaos and disarray every month as more treason and scandal preformed by their leader and cult is released?

Elizondo if more gets released your going to be on the same S.alert as Jib.

[robayon]

Haha another day of Russia Hoax 5 - Keepin the Hope Alive

Idiot groomers want to believe this nonsense so badlyIt is unclear to me if you actually think this is convincing anyone at all or you're just trying to convince yourself that this is what anyone believes. Sorry your boy betrayed you and betrayed us all, but you've got to come up with a more productive way of dealing with it.

I've seen almost-divorced guys at too many bars dealing with cheating wives saying "Yeah, but she still loves me" and then you go out back for a smoke and they're just bawling in their Honda Civic

[Lune]

Keith Raniere's branded sex slaves are still dancing for him outside his jail cell.

Trust me, these Trumptards are in it for life.

[robayon]

Keith Raniere's branded sex slaves are still dancing for him outside his jail cell.

Trust me, these Trumptards are in it for life.I guess I just don't get it. The only people I'll bend over backwards for to defend are people I personally know and love.

There's plenty of people I admire, or they make me laugh, or they're talented... whatever. But where's the benefit in compromising every previous moral position I've ever had, repeatedly, just for someone who isn't even aware I exist?

Maybe it's like a form of faith. You can't wrap your head around it until you experience it.

Watching diehard Trump supporters, I can honestly say I hope I never experience that form of faith. Seems stressful. Seems like a lot of work to constantly slide around and bend and betray and backpedal

[Elizondo]

What a wild week indeed!

Nothing is funnier than watching conservatives totally abandon their morals and principles when they are in trouble.

And this week gave us THREE GREAT examples:

1. In 2016 talking about Hillary Clinton Sarah Huckabee Sanders said if you are attacking the FBI because you are under investigation you are losing. But know that former president Trump is facing a Federal investigation. Sarah is attacking the FBI.

2. Marjorie Taylor Green has called attempts to defund law enforcement radical left wing terrorism. And now she wants to defund the FBI.

3. Trump plead the 5th in response to every question asked of him by New York AG. In the past Trump has had some pretty choice words to say about pleading the 5th

Trump: "Like you see with the mob. You know the mob takes the fifth. If you're innocent, why are you taking the fifth amendment?" (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wPxCAQr26Pc)

So by Trump's own terminology he is guilt.

Funny how the MAGA movement is in worse and worse chaos and disarray every month as more treason and scandal preformed by their leader and cult is released?

Elizondo if more gets released your going to be on the same S.alert as Jib.

It's just more Russia Hoax bedtime stories for idiot groomers like yourself

Hope that helps

It is unclear to me if you actually think this is convincing anyone at all or you're just trying to convince yourself that this is what anyone believes. Sorry your boy betrayed you and betrayed us all, but you've got to come up with a more productive way of dealing with it.

I've seen almost-divorced guys at too many bars dealing with cheating wives saying "Yeah, but she still loves me" and then you go out back for a smoke and they're just bawling in their Honda Civic

It's just more made up nonsense

It's so embarrassing I just laugh at it

[Lune]

It's just more Russia Hoax bedtime stories for idiot groomers like yourself

Hope that helps



It's just more made up nonsense

It's so embarrassing I just laugh at it

Maximum cope. I'd be laughing if it wasn't so sad.

Over six years of obvious lies and you ate it up like horse dewormer. We're clearly the idiots.

Also this the longest I've seen it take for Fox News to get the talking points out to the cult. Memo hasn't come yet Elizondo?

[Elizondo]

Maximum cope. I'd be laughing if it wasn't so sad.

Over six years of obvious lies and you ate it up like horse dewormer. We're clearly the idiots.

Also this the longest I've seen it take for Fox News to get the talking points out to the cult. Memo hasn't come yet Elizondo?

OMG you still believe the Russia Hoax was real

ROFL

What a moron

They just wanted to raid Mara Lago so they could sniff Melania's panties

Hope that helps

[Kaveh]

Melania is a 6 at best dude

[Lune]

Nobody said anything about Russia.

He's trying to spin and whatabout because he's desperate and hasn't received his marching orders from the cult leader yet.

God it's so sad. No logic, no defense, no cognition or free thinking. Just loyalty.

[Reiwa]

Melania is a 6 at best dude

6 is pretty good at 50.

[Kaveh]

Fair enough but she’s not my type. Weird Facelift Botox fetal alcohol syndrome lookin ass

[Lune]

https://i.imgur.com/J7Dr9go.jpg

[robayon]

OMG you still believe the Russia Hoax was real

ROFL

What a moron

They just wanted to raid Mara Lago so they could sniff Melania's panties

Hope that helpsI don't think they'd risk the identities of a bunch of federal agents and the wrath of a very vengeful former president just for some panty sniffing, that's just completely absurd

A raid on a former President is not something those goobers are gonna do lightly because they know it's gonna kick up a major shitstorm no matter what happens

[robayon]

Fair enough but she’s not my type. Weird Facelift Botox fetal alcohol syndrome lookin assMy old man gives Ivanka and Melania a pass because he thinks they're hot

I don't have that either. I can think someone's physically attractive in a sense but their actions/beliefs can render that inert quickly

Gwyneth Paltrow comes to mind

[Kaveh]

I don't think they'd risk the identities of a bunch of federal agents and the wrath of a very vengeful former president just for some panty sniffing, that's just completely absurd

A raid on a former President is not something those goobers are gonna do lightly because they know it's gonna kick up a major shitstorm no matter what happens

Those were just crisis actors

Have you bought Bitcoin?

[robayon]

Those were just crisis actors

Have you bought Bitcoin?Never, if I had that kinda money I'd just buy land with it.

[Elizondo]

Nobody said anything about Russia.

He's trying to spin and whatabout because he's desperate and hasn't received his marching orders from the cult leader yet.

God it's so sad. No logic, no defense, no cognition or free thinking. Just loyalty.

lol yea ok man

Walls closin in! For real this time! It's the same hot garbage and endless gum flapping of "Get Trump!" TDS you mouth breathers have been spewing for years. It's boring. I just laugh at it now

Another long line of talking heads on CNN endlessly quacking their theories that The Maga King is goin down for sure this time blah blah blah*brought to you by Pfizer*. They serve up this pig slop as 'news' and you line up at the trough

FBI was caught red handed planting evidence to get a FISA warrant to spy on Trump's campaign. This is not even debatable. It happened. They used that phony dossier to get multiple FISA warrants to spy on Americans, but this raid was super clean and not politically motivated 3 months before an election lol

I look at this raid as either pure desperation or an effort to ensure Trump is the 2024 nominee. Dems can't run on their failures so they are pumping their orange boogeyman up with steroids so they can run on that instead

You dopes keep falling for this political theater because you're dumber than a box of rocks

[Elizondo]

I don't think they'd risk the identities of a bunch of federal agents and the wrath of a very vengeful former president just for some panty sniffing, that's just completely absurd

A raid on a former President is not something those goobers are gonna do lightly because they know it's gonna kick up a major shitstorm no matter what happens

It's already kicked up a major shitstorm. That calculation was made before this phony raid.

You're giving them the benefit of the doubt by assuming they have an ounce of morals or principles. They don't.

It's about Power. Nothing more.

[cd288]

It is unclear to me if you actually think this is convincing anyone at all or you're just trying to convince yourself that this is what anyone believes. Sorry your boy betrayed you and betrayed us all, but you've got to come up with a more productive way of dealing with it.

I've seen almost-divorced guys at too many bars dealing with cheating wives saying "Yeah, but she still loves me" and then you go out back for a smoke and they're just bawling in their Honda Civic

Think you need to realize that he has no life and is literally just writing these things to troll. You’re feeding him

[Kaveh]

Never, if I had that kinda money I'd just buy land with it.

(I’m not being serious)

[Kaveh]

My old man gives Ivanka and Melania a pass because he thinks they're hot

I don't have that either. I can think someone's physically attractive in a sense but their actions/beliefs can render that inert quickly

Gwyneth Paltrow comes to mind

None of them are my type

I like em like Maria menounos or Catherine zeta Jones in entrapment

[Reiwa]

man this whole time i thought catherine zeta jones was denise richards

TIL

[Lune]

lol yea ok man

Walls closin in! For real this time! It's the same hot garbage and endless gum flapping of "Get Trump!" TDS you mouth breathers have been spewing for years. It's boring. I just laugh at it now

Another long line of talking heads on CNN endlessly quacking their theories that The Maga King is goin down for sure this time blah blah blah*brought to you by Pfizer*. They serve up this pig slop as 'news' and you line up at the trough

FBI was caught red handed planting evidence to get a FISA warrant to spy on Trump's campaign. This is not even debatable. It happened. They used that phony dossier to get multiple FISA warrants to spy on Americans, but this raid was super clean and not politically motivated 3 months before an election lol

I look at this raid as either pure desperation or an effort to ensure Trump is the 2024 nominee. Dems can't run on their failures so they are pumping their orange boogeyman up with steroids so they can run on that instead

You dopes keep falling for this political theater because you're dumber than a box of rocks

I also never said he's going down. Trump will never see a jail cell or anything like it. Just making fun of a retarded cult.

FBI was caught red handed planting evidence to get a FISA warrant to spy on Trump's campaign. This is not even debatable.

Citation needed. Not infowars.

Why would a Trump appointee head of the FBI approve a raid on Trump because of an election he's not even in, where Republicans are already expected to sweep the House, when he could wait until 2024? Why would a judge approve a phony warrant on an ex-president, if there were no evidence, staking his career on it, knowing the shitstorm that would incur? Why is the FBI on the record politely asking Trump just to hand over the documents, and then subpoenaing the documents, long before raiding to get them?

Was the FBI's investigation into Hillary Clinton on the eve of an election also politically motviated? If yes, how is this a witch hunt if they do it to all corrupt politicians? If no, then you admit the possibility that he committed a flagrant fucking crime and is being investigated for it.

Note I'm asking these questions not because I believe you'll answer them logically, you're not capable of that. The mental cartwheels are amusing.

[Kaveh]

man this whole time i thought catherine zeta jones was denise richards

TIL

Denise richards in that bond movie could get it too

[Reiwa]

I also never said he's going down. Trump will never see a jail cell or anything like it. Just making fun of a retarded cult.



Citation needed. Not infowars.

Why would a Trump appointee head of the FBI approve a raid on Trump because of an election he's not even in, where Republicans are already expected to sweep the House, when he could wait until 2024? Why would a judge approve a phony warrant on an ex-president, if there were no evidence, staking his career on it, knowing the shitstorm that would incur? Why is the FBI on the record politely asking Trump just to hand over the documents, and then subpoenaing the documents, long before raiding to get them?

Was the FBI's investigation into Hillary Clinton on the eve of an election also politically motviated? If yes, how is this a witch hunt if they do it to all corrupt politicians? If no, then you admit the possibility that he committed a flagrant fucking crime and is being investigated for it.

Note I'm asking these questions not because I believe you'll answer them logically, you're not capable of that. The mental cartwheels are amusing.

Which is the norm though?

Trump: Denying Obama intel briefings was 'never discussed or thought of' (https://www.politico.com/story/2018/08/21/trump-obama-intel-briefings-new-yorker-790216)

Biden Bars Trump From Receiving Intelligence Briefings (https://www.nytimes.com/2021/02/05/us/politics/biden-trump-intelligence-briefings.html)

[Lune]

Which is the norm though?

Trump: Denying Obama intel briefings was 'never discussed or thought of' (https://www.politico.com/story/2018/08/21/trump-obama-intel-briefings-new-yorker-790216)

Biden Bars Trump From Receiving Intelligence Briefings (https://www.nytimes.com/2021/02/05/us/politics/biden-trump-intelligence-briefings.html)

What does that completely unrelated spin have to do with my post or any aspect of this discussion? Here you go.

Why would a Trump appointee head of the FBI approve a raid on Trump because of an election he's not even in, where Republicans are already expected to sweep the House, when he could wait until 2024? Why would a judge approve a phony warrant on an ex-president, if there were no evidence, staking his career on it, knowing the shitstorm that would incur? Why is the FBI on the record politely asking Trump just to hand over the documents, and then subpoenaing the documents, long before raiding to get them?

Was the FBI's investigation into Hillary Clinton on the eve of an election also politically motviated? If yes, how is this a witch hunt if they do it to all corrupt politicians? If no, then you admit the possibility that he committed a flagrant fucking crime and is being investigated for it.

[robayon]

Think you need to realize that he has no life and is literally just writing these things to troll. You’re feeding himWe feed each other here, it's what we do

[Kaveh]

Rob what the fuck is your avatar man

[Reiwa]

What does that completely unrelated spin have to do with my post or any aspect of this discussion? Here you go.

I was trying to ignore your question because I already answered it but ok.

There cannot be any classification crime here because the documents were transferred (to a SCIF no less!) under Tromp in his capacity as POTUS.

QED ipso facto Singindunum esse delendam.

[robayon]

Rob what the fuck is your avatar manShpongle. Long time fan.

https://www.shponglemusic.com/

[Botten]

I was trying to ignore your question because I already answered it but ok.

There cannot be any classification crime here because the documents were transferred (to a SCIF no less!) under Tromp in his capacity as POTUS.

QED ipso facto Singindunum esse delendam.

Now say if Trump or his family were selling nuclear weapons information to other countries that would be a different story. But the 2 Billion from the Saudis needs to better investigated better.

[Lune]

I was trying to ignore your question because I already answered it but ok.

There cannot be any classification crime here because the documents were transferred (to a SCIF no less!) under Tromp in his capacity as POTUS.

QED ipso facto Singindunum esse delendam.

No they weren't. An individual isn't allowed to have custody of the type of information they think he has/had. That's why they asked for it, then subpoena'd it, then raided for it. The Espionage Act says nothing about whether something is classified, it deals in information that is pertinent to national defense. Even if he did declassify it (he didn't), it wouldn't matter.

Also it wasn't one question, it was multiple questions, and you never answered them lol you fucking people live in dreamland. Gonna post them again for good measure because they haven't been answered, only attempts at spin.

Just imagine if Hillary Clinton were in this situation. Basement full of state secrets & raided by the FBI.

Why would a Trump appointee head of the FBI approve a raid on Trump because of an election he's not even in, where Republicans are already expected to sweep the House, when he could wait until 2024? Why would a judge approve a phony warrant on an ex-president, if there were no evidence, staking his career on it, knowing the shitstorm that would incur? Why is the FBI on the record politely asking Trump just to hand over the documents, and then subpoenaing the documents, long before raiding to get them?

Was the FBI's investigation into Hillary Clinton on the eve of an election also politically motviated? If yes, how is this a witch hunt if they do it to all corrupt politicians? If no, then you admit the possibility that he committed a flagrant fucking crime and is being investigated for it.

[robayon]

https://i.imgur.com/92QotP9.jpeg

[Jibartik]

There's always money in the north korean banana stand.

[Horza]

I was trying to ignore your question because I already answered it but ok.

There cannot be any classification crime here because the documents were transferred (to a SCIF no less!) under Tromp in his capacity as POTUS.

QED ipso facto Singindunum esse delendam.

The latest GOP talking point is that he had a standing order documents removed from the White House and taken to his residence were deemed to be declassified.

[Kaveh]

Blake masters is running away from an abortion ban in AZ

weird how it was murder before the primary but now in the general election it’s a woman’s right

Just how full of shit are you guys?

[TheBardo]

the irony of the chuds who chanted "lock her up" for years crying about this is *chef's kiss*

[Reiwa]

The latest GOP talking point is that he had a standing order documents removed from the White House and taken to his residence were deemed to be declassified.

By taking them as executive, declassification is a fait accompli. He doesn't need to declare it; it already is.

[cd288]

By taking them as executive, declassification is a fait accompli. He doesn't need to declare it; it already is.

Nope. This has never been the case. Presidents have taken classified documents in the past once they were no longer President and have been quietly asked to return them.

Trump could have easily just done that here. But instead he decided to act like a 5 year old so the search warrant was needed.

[cd288]

the irony of the chuds who chanted "lock her up" for years crying about this is *chef's kiss*

I mean I consider myself a republican and I ragged on her for that just like I’m tagging on trump for this so

[Skarne]

https://www.reddit.com/r/RussiaUkraineWar2022/comments/wnd8iy/meanwhile_in_russia_putins_propagandists_on_state/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf

[Rethalis]

https://www.reddit.com/r/RussiaUkraineWar2022/comments/wnd8iy/meanwhile_in_russia_putins_propagandists_on_state/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf

That made me laugh. One of thier news anchors said they "were thinking about re-instating trump as president but have not made a decision on that yet"

[Reiwa]

Nope. This has never been the case. Presidents have taken classified documents in the past once they were no longer President and have been quietly asked to return them.

Trump could have easily just done that here. But instead he decided to act like a 5 year old so the search warrant was needed.

Counterpoint: if the President had the authority do it, and he did do it, there's no need for a legal incantation to make it very legal, very cool.

It already is.

[cd288]

Counterpoint: if the President had the authority do it, and he did do it, there's no need for a legal incantation to make it very legal, very cool.

It already is.

Except that’s not the way the law works. The law as it’s written does not permit what you’re saying. Maybe a future congress will amend the law

[Kaveh]

Counterpoint: if the President had the authority do it, and he did do it, there's no need for a legal incantation to make it very legal, very cool.

It already is.

So the FBI made trump a martyr for no reason, and you’re basing this on the zero information that we have so far?

Cmon Jack

[Jibartik]

Wait, I need clarificaiton because of al the whataboutism

is this the same crime hillary was accused of?

[Jibartik]

So the FBI made trump a martyr for no reason, and you’re basing this on the zero information that we have so far?

Cmon Jack

remember when the left said WE HAVE THE SMOKING GUN, his TAX RETURNS HAVE BEEN LEAKED!

And then it turned out that it just made trump look like a rich guy? And then it turned out it was trump that leaked them?

Just wondering, why wouldn't you think that could happen again?

[Reiwa]

Except that’s not the way the law works. The law as it’s written does not permit what you’re saying. Maybe a future congress will amend the law

What fucking law are you talking about? (https://getyarn.io/yarn-clip/5743742d-7eae-4d11-9feb-7ebee9e5f276)

[Jibartik]

Laws are dumb.

[Reiwa]

So the FBI made trump a martyr for no reason, and you’re basing this on the zero information that we have so far?

Cmon Jack

Garland told them what to do. He said so himself!

[caveslug]

Apparently, the documents that didn't exist. That were planted, were in fact declassified.

[Elizondo]

Still laughing at how ridiculous and desperate this political stunt was

[robayon]

Still laughing at how ridiculous and desperate this political stunt washttps://i.imgur.com/y4gSFMb.jpeg

[Elizondo]

It's been 6 years of the same nonsense

It's just a comedy show at this point

Feel free to take me up on my bet. I'll accept all takers.

[Jibartik]

https://i.imgur.com/y4gSFMb.jpeg

lol

[unsunghero]

I haven't been really following this forum since it's been so long since I played P99, I got logged out on my phone somehow and have been too lazy to deal with re-setting my pw

I'm still logged in on my computer and from skimming this it's frustrating how much has been said about this stupid classified documents crap without mentioning this:

The documents were largely stuff about Trump, stuff Trump "wanted the public to know about". What a surprise that Trump would take stuff about him. I'm sure the haters have a huge chubby in anticipation of them being state nuclear secrets but I'm going to spoiler alert your future disappointment

The president has the authority to de-classify whatever he wants whenever the F he wants, so Trump is claiming that he kept that stuff because he de-classified it. But he forgot to fire up the labelmaker and put a de-classified label on the boxes, so he's still in trouble. He probably straight up forgot to de-classify them or was putting it off and now is trying to backtrack. Here's more info on that:

"As for the president's power to declassify materials, here's some background on how it works, according to current and former intelligence officials familiar with the declassification process. First, a U.S. president does have uniquely sweeping declassification abilities, though there is a process that involves written documentation and several other steps. It's not the case that a president can declassify documents with just verbal instructions. His instruction to declassify a given document would first be memorialized in a written memo, usually drafted by White House counsel, which he would then sign"
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/trump-classified-records/

- He didn't fire up the laminator label-maker and slap the D/C sticker on them and now he's in big trouble

[Jibartik]

hey wb unsung!

[unsunghero]

hey wb unsung!

Just popped in to add some info, probably won't be following up

[Reiwa]

Just popped in to add some info, probably won't be following up

The process thing I think it's just standard practice and noone has the authority to overrule POTUS if they/them don't follow it. Power is power.

[Elizondo]

The process thing I think it's just standard practice and noone has the authority to overrule POTUS if they/them don't follow it. Power is power.

A public statement alone is enough to declassify whatever he wants

It's called "being President"

[Horza]

Apparently, the documents that didn't exist. That were planted, were in fact declassified.

Last week: Trump didn't take anything from the White House.

A few days ago: There were documents found, but the FBI planted them.

Yesterday: Maybe Trump took some papers but they weren't classified.

Today: Trump took documents that were classified, but he declassified them (with his mind).

[Reiwa]

A public statement alone is enough to declassify whatever he wants

It's called "being President"

I don't think a statement is required. The action speaks for itself.

[unsunghero]

The process thing

Writing a letter to yourself asking for permission and signing it? Yea there's a process

You would think a president just taking the stuff home would essentially be the same thing, because obviously security has been compromised at that point unless their security at home is somehow better than the FBI's. Most healthcare jobs allow people to take patient's legally protected health information home on their phones or computers to work on it remotely but that's after verifying there's still encryption and if it gets out, it's your ass and your agency's ass

[Jibartik]

Tommorrow: Wait, these are photographs of bob lazar at area 51 with a craft built for small aliens, and picturtes of aliens, and pictures of the nixon flying it himself!

[cd288]

Last week: Trump didn't take anything from the White House.

A few days ago: There were documents found, but the FBI planted them.

Yesterday: Maybe Trump took some papers but they weren't classified.

Today: Trump took documents that were classified, but he declassified them (with his mind).

Lol this is the best timeline

[cd288]

I don't think a statement is required. The action speaks for itself.

Nope. That’s why they were able to get a warrant. And again multiple presidents have taken classified documents before and been ordered to return them (which they did). The law specifically lays out process for declassification and by the way there are also certain things that a President is not allowed to declassify just for the record (not sure if that falls within the info trump had because we don’t know what it was yet though).

So yeah you’re just simply wrong man. I see where you’re trying to go with your argument but it’s just not correct. If it was then you wouldn’t be able to get a warrant for what the fbi did, the judge would’ve shot it down

[Reiwa]

Nope. That’s why they were able to get a warrant. And again multiple presidents have taken classified documents before and been ordered to return them (which they did). The law specifically lays out process for declassification and by the way there are also certain things that a President is not allowed to declassify just for the record (not sure if that falls within the info trump had because we don’t know what it was yet though).

So yeah you’re just simply wrong man. I see where you’re trying to go with your argument but it’s just not correct. If it was then you wouldn’t be able to get a warrant for what the fbi did, the judge would’ve shot it down

https://i.imgur.com/cStcXMB.png

[Elizondo]

Nope. That’s why they were able to get a warrant. And again multiple presidents have taken classified documents before and been ordered to return them (which they did). The law specifically lays out process for declassification and by the way there are also certain things that a President is not allowed to declassify just for the record (not sure if that falls within the info trump had because we don’t know what it was yet though).

So yeah you’re just simply wrong man. I see where you’re trying to go with your argument but it’s just not correct. If it was then you wouldn’t be able to get a warrant for what the fbi did, the judge would’ve shot it down

There is no classification that excludes The President

You're a fking moron

[TheBardo]

in real life, elizondo can barely tie his own shoe laces. But online, hes a national security expert

[Elizondo]

in real life, elizondo can barely tie his own shoe laces. But online, hes a national security expert

TheTardo just mad and lashin out cuz he knows I'm right

[TheBardo]

TheTardo just mad and lashin out cuz he knows I'm right

have you considered offering your services to 45 as a lawyer? I feel he could use such a formidable legal mind.

[Skarne]

have you considered offering your services to 45 as a lawyer? I feel he could use such a formidable legal mind.

Lol

[Elizondo]

have you considered offering your services to 45 as a lawyer? I feel he could use such a formidable legal mind.

lol walls closin in!

You got that dastardly Maga King for sure this time

[Reiwa]

Haha plenary executive 💪

[Kaveh]

Vegas has DeSantis winning the Republican primary in ‘24

[cd288]

https://i.imgur.com/cStcXMB.png

…when did I reference the DOE or nuclear info?

[cd288]

lol walls closin in!

You got that dastardly Maga King for sure this time

I’ve started using elizondo as a gauge for how panicked the extreme right is. Usually if he’s not ranting here as much it means the extreme right feels things are going well. When he starts posting and commenting and ranting a lot more you know they are not feeling as comfortable.

It’s relatively amusing lol

[Elizondo]

I’ve started using elizondo as a gauge for how panicked the extreme right is. Usually if he’s not ranting here as much it means the extreme right feels things are going well. When he starts posting and commenting and ranting a lot more you know they are not feeling as comfortable.

It’s relatively amusing lol

lol walls closin in any day now

Said cdiot 6 years ago

[Kaveh]

I’ve started using elizondo as a gauge for how panicked the extreme right is. Usually if he’s not ranting here as much it means the extreme right feels things are going well. When he starts posting and commenting and ranting a lot more you know they are not feeling as comfortable.

It’s relatively amusing lol

Incelizondo sacks groceries at Walmart

He has more chromosomes than US dollars

[Reiwa]

…when did I reference the DOE or nuclear info?

I see no reason to discriminate between any of the bullshit you people are saying, fortunate son.

[cd288]

I see no reason to discriminate between any of the bullshit you people are saying, fortunate son.

But hold on why are we even talking about classified vs declassified? I thought the evidence was planted by the FBI wasn’t it? So how did we suddenly start discussing whether trump declassified it? He can’t declassify planted evidence

[Reiwa]

But hold on why are we even talking about classified vs declassified? I thought the evidence was planted by the FBI wasn’t it? So how did we suddenly start discussing whether trump declassified it? He can’t declassify planted evidence

I never said it was planted so you're a gigantic spaz for asking me, fortunate son.

[Botten]

The Espionage Act doesn't really care if a document has been deemed classified. It makes it a crime to retain, without authorization, documents related to the national defense that could be used to harm the United States or aid a foreign adversary.

Prosecutors could argue that a document meets that act’s standard regardless of whether Trump had pronounced it unclassified shortly before leaving office.

We probably won't see Trump do jail time but you probably won't see him president either. The head of the RNC is done with his garbage too.

The fanatics in the MAGA movement are now officially on waiting to see who they latched their crazy in tow to. But they will always have the burden backing the scandalous shame that comes with the MAGA movement.

Probably the reason Karenzondo is making a full on display that he is ready to create another account to back the next GoPtard insane movement. He doesn't want to be known as the fakenews poster and the part of a failed movement when he finally joins team Dirty Santchez.

[Jibartik]

espionage act

patriot act

why do we have all these acts?

[Rethalis]

espionage act

patriot act

why do we have all these acts?

To keep us safe. Mother always knows what's best

[Horza]

The FBI raid on Donald Trump’s Mar-a-Lago estate gave the former president a 10-point boost over likely 2024 rival Ron DeSantis among GOP primary voters, according to a new poll. (https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/fbi-raid-trump-desantis-poll-b2144684.html)

He's probably going to win the nomination while serving a prison sentence for treason lmao

[Elizondo]

The FBI raid on Donald Trump’s Mar-a-Lago estate gave the former president a 10-point boost over likely 2024 rival Ron DeSantis among GOP primary voters, according to a new poll. (https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/fbi-raid-trump-desantis-poll-b2144684.html)

He's probably going to win the nomination while serving a prison sentence for treason lmao

Horza wants to believe the walls are closin in so badly

[Jibartik]

Imagine liking secret agencies.

[robayon]

"When people show you who they are, believe them the first time."

https://i.imgur.com/q6CpGnU.jpeg

[Jibartik]

Says, "No one is above the law!" 20 times a day on TV.

[Reiwa]

"When people show you who they are, believe them the first time."

https://i.imgur.com/q6CpGnU.jpeg

Where is solidarity? :p

[Jibartik]

Remember, you are not above the law.

I mean: no one is above the law!

[robayon]

Where is solidarity? :pI have none with the party

Maybe some with certain working class individuals, but they often have a lot of other beliefs that would make me avoid any collective action with them

[Jibartik]

The solidarity is 320 million American robots saying, "I AM NOT ABOVE THE LAW" in unison.

[Reiwa]

I have none with the party

Maybe some with certain working class individuals, but they often have a lot of other beliefs that would make me avoid any collective action with them

The Libification gas is highly effective.

[Jibartik]

I was just reading up on this espionage act shit, it totally should have been repealed 40-50 70 years ago.

This is just like the patriot act.

[Reiwa]

Ok no solidarity. How about some critical support?

[Jibartik]

Everyone supports this brainwashing that you're not above the law I mean the IRS

[Reiwa]

Everyone supports this brainwashing that you're not above the law

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nixon_v._Fitzgerald

[Jibartik]

Say it with me: "I am not above the IRS"

https://i.imgur.com/EzZi2K8.gif

[Kaveh]

Everyone supports this brainwashing that you're not above the law I mean the IRS

People should pay their taxes man. We’re bankrupt

[Jibartik]

See, works like a charm.

Remember: No one is above the idol.

https://i.imgur.com/5VpISBS.png

(new space force logo lol sheeple!)

[Rethalis]

People should pay their taxes man. We’re bankrupt

Maybe we should cut funding for research on the effects of nicotine on zebra fish first?

[Kaveh]

Debating what we spend money on doesn’t give people license to break the law in the mean time

But yes, I and other frugal ethnicities should be put in charge of the National purse. How was copper wire invented? Two Persians fighting over a penny

[Jibartik]

Nobody is breaking the law, the rich get to write off things like haircuts.

So we can give them our taxes back to them in the form of 100s of billions on wartime act's that line the 1%s pockets that we dont get rid of.

It's all a giant scam.

[Kaveh]

Then tax enforcement doesn’t matter I guess

[Horza]

I was just reading up on this espionage act shit, it totally should have been repealed 40-50 70 years ago.

This is just like the patriot act.

I'm loving you GOPtards pivoting to a platform of abolish all law enforcement above the county level like three months before the midterms.

[Reiwa]

Say it with me: "I am not above the IRS"

https://i.imgur.com/EzZi2K8.gif

Who's her face mixed with? Looks kinda masc.

[Jibartik]

Then tax enforcement doesn’t matter I guess

It doesn't, that's why they go after the poor, because they dont understand that.

[Jibartik]

I'm loving you GOPtards pivoting to a platform of abolish all law enforcement above the county level like three months before the midterms.

Oh shut up, im anti police, anti goverment, anti patriot act, what are you?!

[Kaveh]

Laws either matter or they don’t.

Also, in red text, “render unto Caesar what is caesar’s.”
If you cheat on your taxes you descend into hell immediately upon death. It is known

[Horza]

Kash Patel went on CNN today and said Trump can literally stand over a set documents and say these are now declassified, sounds to me like an admission there was no written order to declassify.

[Reiwa]

Kash Patel went on CNN today and said Trump can literally stand over a set documents and say these are now declassified, sounds to me like an admission there was no written order to declassify.

? written by what government body

[Jibartik]

Laws either matter or they don’t.

This is accurate, they are relative.

[Horza]

? written by what government body

Trump sitting on the john shouting declassified like he's Michael Scott declaring bankruptcy or a wizard in Harry Potter.

[Elizondo]

Yesterday Horza was sayin Trump was hiding a nuclear bomb under his house

[magnetaress]

Yikes Reiwa is not a phobe lol.

[Horza]

A man drove into a barricade near the U.S. Capitol in Washington, D.C. on early Sunday morning, fired several shots into the air after his vehicle ignited, and then shot himself to death, according to police. (https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2022/aug/14/man-drives-car-into-barricade-capitol-fatally-shoots-himself)

I'm just glad to see Jib's already been posting this afternoon.

[Domo]

A man drove into a barricade near the U.S. Capitol in Washington, D.C. on early Sunday morning, fired several shots into the air after his vehicle ignited, and then shot himself to death, according to police. (https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2022/aug/14/man-drives-car-into-barricade-capitol-fatally-shoots-himself)


WTF?

[Jibartik]

I'm just glad to see Jib's already been posting this afternoon.

why are you the way that you are?

[Botten]

why are you the way that you are?

You mean hilarious?

[Lune]

A man drove into a barricade near the U.S. Capitol in Washington, D.C. on early Sunday morning, fired several shots into the air after his vehicle ignited, and then shot himself to death, according to police. (https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2022/aug/14/man-drives-car-into-barricade-capitol-fatally-shoots-himself)

I'm just glad to see Jib's already been posting this afternoon.

lol

Body count of fanatical Trump cult retards = 2

[unsunghero]

From the article:

"For example, in April, an American climate activist died after setting himself on fire outside the US supreme court building. Those close to him said he was attempting to call attention to the global impact of climate change at a time that the supreme court’s docket had a number of environmental cases on it"

- You're only hardcore when you self-immolate. You would think he'd have found a more eco-friendly way to take himself out. What about feeding yourself to bears or sharks? That's kind of becoming one with nature

[azeth]

lol

Body count of fanatical Trump cult retards = 2

Disclaimer: This figure does not include police murdered by the Trump nazis

[Reiwa]

lol

Body count of fanatical Trump cult retards = 2

Body count means something alot different these days.

[MrSparkle001]

A man drove into a barricade near the U.S. Capitol in Washington, D.C. on early Sunday morning, fired several shots into the air after his vehicle ignited, and then shot himself to death, according to police. (https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2022/aug/14/man-drives-car-into-barricade-capitol-fatally-shoots-himself)

I'm just glad to see Jib's already been posting this afternoon.

Sunday’s events for some brought to mind the April 2021 death of Capitol police officer Billy Evans, who was killed when a Virginia man drove his car into a facility barricade.

Furthermore, in 2013, Capitol police shot and killed a Connecticut woman near a facility checkpoint after she smashed her car into a White House barricade and fled down Pennsylvania Avenue.

The drivers in each of those cases had mental illness, Politico reported in its Sunday newsletter.

Lol no shit they were mentally ill.

[Mblake1981]

Body count means something alot different these days.

https://i.imgur.com/JvwTFjL.jpg

[suptoofs]

Incelizondo sacks groceries at Walmart

He has more chromosomes than US dollars

I legit just spit out a piece of watermelon reading this, thank you.

[Jibartik]

RAGE WITH THE MACHINE!

[Elizondo]

Disclaimer: This figure does not include police murdered by the Trump nazis

18419

[robayon]

18419I wish what passes for the American left was one tenth as cool as you think it is

[Jibartik]

I wish what passes for the American left was one tenth as cool as you think it is

Yeah, it sucks that it's all just old bankers now.

[robayon]

Yeah, it sucks that it's all just old bankers now.Bankers who support “progressive” values = socially liberal but fiscally conservative

As in, let the economics do the oppression

[Jibartik]

lol what are "progressive" values again? The cotton Gyn? Globalization? Industrial farming? The tech boom? Automated manufacturing?

As in, let the economics do the oppression

When did this become anarchy lol

[robayon]

It’s like all you hear is the anarchy part of anarcho-commie. Or maybe you oughta learn more about anarchists.

Anyways, progressive values are basically the reverse of whatever the alt-right supports :)

[Jibartik]

It’s like all you hear is the anarchy part of anarcho-commie. Or maybe you oughta learn more about anarchists.

Anyways, progressive values are basically the reverse of whatever the alt-right supports :)

Nah, Im anti establishment. That's what anarchy is. Being against the authority: no matter who's in charge.

[Reiwa]

https://www.project1999.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=18419&d=1660582582

And now I have 'bald progressive woman' in my search history.

[robayon]

And now I have 'bald progressive woman' in my search history.Right now my wife is an example of this :o

[MrSparkle001]

I wish what passes for the American left was one tenth as cool as you think it is

Yeah it's more like the person on the right.

https://pics.me.me/thumb_something-went-2019-1947-terribly-wrong-yeah-it-was-67111043.png

[robayon]

Yeah it's more like the person on the right.

https://pics.me.me/thumb_something-went-2019-1947-terribly-wrong-yeah-it-was-67111043.pngExplain to me what is wrong with the person on the right and what is right with the person on the left.

[unsunghero]

Explain to me what is wrong with the person on the right and what is right with the person on the left.

Those mom jean shorts are fugly

[robayon]

Those mom jean shorts are fuglyNot my style either but aside from opinions

[MrSparkle001]

Explain to me what is wrong with the person on the right and what is right with the person on the left.

You mean besides the man bun?

The left is projecting an air of classy, confident masculinity, back in a time when those traits were desirable and celebrated.

The right is, well, not, in modern times when those traits are vilified. You better not be a straight white well-dressed masculine male these days.

[robayon]

You mean besides the man bun?

The left is projecting an air of classy, confident masculinity, back in a time when those traits were desirable and celebrated.

The right is, well, not, in modern times when those traits are vilified. You better not be a straight white well-dressed masculine male these days.These are just opinions. Do you have any facts?

[Reiwa]

These are just opinions. Do you have any facts?

I'd liken it to apparent retrograde motion but for economics instead of the moon.

It does appear something is being taken away. Anyone can see that!

[robayon]

I'd liken it to apparent retrograde motion but for economics instead of the moon.

It does appear something is being taken away. Anyone can see that!if I dressed like the dude on the left here I’d have heat stroke within an hour

[Reiwa]

if I dressed like the dude on the left here I’d have heat stroke within an hour

And if you grew up feral you'd be severely less sensitive to low temperatures.

[unsunghero]

You mean besides the man bun?

The left is projecting an air of classy, confident masculinity, back in a time when those traits were desirable and celebrated.

The right is, well, not, in modern times when those traits are vilified. You better not be a straight white well-dressed masculine male these days.

Ehh, the only time that is going to hurt you is trying to get hired somewhere or picked for a movie role. Many places are going to affirmatively discriminate if they can

What women and gay men (from speaking to two gay friends) are into are still masculine, intelligent, successful, well-dressed men. A gay guy that acts and talks “straight” is highly sought after in the gay community, not sure why, this is based on friend’s feedback

What’s a weird trend I’ve noticed is what % of fitness community seems to be conservative. From the channels and forums I surf it seems to be like 80%+. Not that progressives never work out, but seem to rarely get into it beyond a very casual level

[Horza]

Explain to me what is wrong with the person on the right and what is right with the person on the left.

GOPtards are just really mad that nobody under forty will vote for any of their bible thumping pedophiles any longer.

[Reiwa]

Ehh, the only time that is going to hurt you is trying to get hired somewhere or picked for a movie role. Many places are going to affirmatively discriminate if they can

What women and gay men (from speaking to two gay friends) are into are still masculine, intelligent, successful, well-dressed men. A gay guy that acts and talks “straight” is highly sought after in the gay community, not sure why, this is based on friend’s feedback

What’s a weird trend I’ve noticed is what % of fitness community seems to be conservative. From the channels and forums I surf it seems to be like 80%+. Not that progressives never work out, but seem to rarely get into it beyond a very casual level

We'll get 2 AA rulings next term.
(https://ncpolicywatch.com/2022/03/31/upcoming-u-s-supreme-court-cases-could-curb-colleges-use-of-affirmative-action/)

[Jibartik]

Explain to me what is wrong with the person on the right and what is right with the person on the left.

The person on the left is dressing to conform to a corrupt system so he can build a home for a family.

The guy on the right is dressing to conform to a corrupt system that he wants to be so big he won’t have to worry about providing anything for anyone.

[Wrekt]

The person on the left is dressing to conform to a corrupt system so he can build a home for a family.

The guy on the right is dressing to conform to a corrupt system that he wants to be so big he won’t have to worry about providing anything for anyone.

word salad

[Jibartik]

word salad

tl:dr

theyre both worshiping the beast.

[robayon]

The person on the left is dressing to conform to a corrupt system so he can build a home for a family.

The guy on the right is dressing to conform to a corrupt system that he wants to be so big he won’t have to worry about providing anything for anyone.I don't like fast fashion either but I find alternatives difficult to afford

[Jibartik]

In a world where Diane Feinstein wears a rage against the machine shirt on a tiktok so she can fit into the mainstream voterbase... well Id rather just hit the reset button on that.

[Elizondo]

In a world where Diane Feinstein wears a rage against the machine shirt on a tiktok so she can fit into the mainstream voterbase... well Id rather just hit the reset button on that.

18426

[Jibartik]

Jesus fucking christ

[robayon]

18426I was at Publix the other day and they were playing Metallica on the shopping radio :(

[Skarne]

You mean besides the man bun?

The left is projecting an air of classy, confident masculinity, back in a time when those traits were desirable and celebrated.

The right is, well, not, in modern times when those traits are vilified. You better not be a straight white well-dressed masculine male these days.

https://www.independent.co.uk/tv/news/mtg-white-men-piece-shmidt-b2145578.html?amp

Yes white men are the biggest victims in America.

Get real my guy.

[Rethalis]

We'll get 2 AA rulings next term.
(https://ncpolicywatch.com/2022/03/31/upcoming-u-s-supreme-court-cases-could-curb-colleges-use-of-affirmative-action/)

This is exciting!

[Jibartik]

https://www.independent.co.uk/tv/news/mtg-white-men-piece-shmidt-b2145578.html?amp

Yes white men are the biggest victims in America.

Get real my guy.

Guy just mentioned masculine male fashion is on the decline!

The real problem with oppression is how everyone just laughs at you when you talk about it.

I wish my side cared about people instead of just pretended to.

The truth is all people are dog shit awful creatures that deserve no respect or sympathy, full stop, We're evil, selfish, greedy bastards that will kill or destroy anything that threatens our saftey.

That said....:

You need to accept that we are trash, and then love us all unconditionally. Then, and only then, can we progress.

until then, it's the same blind killing the blind.

[Skarne]

when those traits are vilified. You better not be a straight white well-dressed masculine male these days.

Can you read Jib?

[Jibartik]

Can you read Jib?

yeah it says that male masculine fashion is on the decline.

I mean, mostly that means not wearing new balance shoes and cargo shorts every day like between the age of 14-50....

But it's true, the like, metrosexual was all about purses!

Anyway, making that joke, or observation shouldn't be responded with a lecture about how white men should shutup. lol

[Skarne]

yeah it says that male masculine fashion is on the decline.

I mean, mostly that means not wearing new balance shoes and cargo shorts like between teh age of 14-50....

But it's true, the like, metrosexual was all about purses!

Haha ok clown.

[Jibartik]

Why do you hate clowns?

Like, even the most generic form of humor is something to be ashamed of to a lib now?

[Horza]

Haha ok clown.

Cut off that man bun right now, you don't even realize that it means you worship the beast.

[Skarne]

Why do you hate clowns?

Like, even humor is something to be ashamed of to a lib now?

Calling someone a clown isn’t synonymous with hating them. Just like hating trump and his fascist movement doesn’t make someone a liberal.

[Jibartik]

Cut off that man bun right now, you don't even realize that it means you worship the beast.

No, that's your side:

jDlQ4H0Kdg8

[Jibartik]

Calling someone a clown isn’t unanimous with hating them.

Why do you simp for the word "retard"? :o

[Skarne]

Why do you simp for the word "retard"?

Haha I don’t even know what you’re talking about man. Why are you simping for mr sparkles? He said some dumb shit and I say it’s dumb. What’s it to you? Do you feel marginalized as a white male and just had to speak up in defense?

[Jibartik]

Stay white and proud

Yikes

[Jibartik]

Haha I don’t even know what you’re talking about man

I'm just saying using the word clown to talk down to someone, is saying you think clowns are not something to be proud of.

Clowns bring joy to the world, and even poetic sadness.

Why are you simping for mr sparkles? He said some dumb shit and I say it’s dumb. What’s it to you?

Because I unconditionally love him :o

I would defend you too dont worry. I unconditionally love you.

[Skarne]

I'm just saying using the word clown to talk down to someone, is saying you think clowns are not something to be proud of.

Clowns bring joy to the world, and even poetic sadness.



Because I unconditionally love him :o

I meant it as in “your personality is like that of a clown’s”. It’s not talking down to you, but it is what it is. I can’t take you seriously. Good to know there’s love in your life though…even if it is just on the internet.

[Skarne]

I unconditionally love you.

Aww I love your posts too.

[Jibartik]

“your personality is like that of a clown’s”.

You should take joy more seriously.

Not being able to feel it is horza's biggest problem.

https://i.imgur.com/9AVQaX3.png

[Horza]

It's a little weird to see a guy who was eager to see the libs all put into camps pivot to the importance of unconditional love since the Mar-a-Lago raid.

[Jibartik]

It's a little weird to see a guy who was eager to see the libs all put into camps pivot to the importance of unconditional love since the Mar-a-Lago raid.

Do you think spiderman is a documentary?

[Skarne]

https://youtu.be/tcd9N62nOLgYou should take joy more seriously.

Not being able to feel it is horza's biggest problem.

https://i.imgur.com/9AVQaX3.png

[Jibartik]

How come we only help people that we have to use military to help, we never just send that much volunteers to 3rd world countries to help just build their infrastructure for free without asking for anything in return?

When I was a democrat, that was what I thought we were gonna change when we got in charge.

But now I get yelled at by democrats when I bring that up, with the exact same words the republicans used to yell at me.

[Reiwa]

yeah it says that male masculine fashion is on the decline.

I mean, mostly that means not wearing new balance shoes and cargo shorts every day like between the age of 14-50....

But it's true, the like, metrosexual was all about purses!

Anyway, making that joke, or observation shouldn't be responded with a lecture about how white men should shutup. lol

Are there more or less now as an absolute figure? I think nothing was taken, there's just more of other stuff so there's 'less'.

M-O-O-N that spells moon! :p

[Jibartik]

M-O-O-N that spells moon! :p

No it dont! Spells nebraska!

YcJX4ksMF78

[Reiwa]

No it dont! Spells nebraska!

YcJX4ksMF78

Ah, yes, politics.

[Jibartik]

Ah, yes, politics.

:o The american economy with the inflation reduction act:

PjFAvCFuONs

[Jibartik]

Wow if you build a new home you get a bunch of things to make that not such a big impact on your wallet thanks this inflation reduction act.

LOL what the f is going on with this country.

[unsunghero]

Things that are considered “toxic” about masculinity used to include being overly tough, not showing your emotions, not allowing oneself to be vulnerable, being a “man’s man”

Which interestingly enough, these same qualities are being shoehorned into Hollywood’s female heroes by modern feminist writers. I haven’t been following it but from hearing about the new female movie/tv show heroes, especially superheros, they all have that male masculine quality: tough, extremely competent, never emotional, never vulnerable, never dependent, almost always independent (I don’t need no man!), also interestingly enough almost always single, whereas male (super)heroes were often involved in romances, such as the Spider-Man characters

It’s like despite the fact women think these qualities are “toxic” in men, they copy them when they try to portray a “tough” female heroine. I personally don’t agree with some that they secretly venerate these qualities, but rather that they are just a new generation of shitty writers who don’t know how to write good nuanced female heroine yet

[unsunghero]

Here’s an example of the above: Galadriel in the upcoming Rings of Power series

Unlike Jackson’s portrayal (and I believe Tolkien’s) of Galadriel as the very feminine but very powerful wizard…

…this Galadriel is a warrior, wearing full plate, man-spreading her legs and showing us a dagger with some semi-phallic placement

Also, her husband from the Jackson movies (and Tolkien’s books) is completely MIA. So assuming he either is going to be dead or incapacitated. Why? Because Galadriel is one tough manly warrior woman, and she don’t need no man!

[Jibartik]

Here’s an example of the above: Galadriel in the upcoming Rings of Power series

Unlike Jackson’s portrayal (and I believe Tolkien’s) of Galadriel as the very feminine but very powerful wizard…

…this Galadriel is a warrior, wearing full plate, man-spreading her legs and showing us a dagger with some semi-phallic placement

Also, her husband from the Jackson movies (and Tolkien’s books) is completely MIA. So assuming he either is going to be dead or incapacitated. Why? Because Galadriel is one tough manly warrior woman, and she don’t need no man!

Yeah, they moved the headstones but not the bodies.

[Elizondo]

https://www.openicpsr.org/openicpsr/project/155441/version/V1/view

18428

Summary: We tested the fixity of political preferences of 136 healthy males during the 2011 U.S. presidential election season by administering synthetic testosterone or placebo to participants who had identified the strength of their political affiliation. Before the testosterone treatment, we found that weakly affiliated Democrats had 19% higher basal testosterone than those who identified strongly with the party (p=0.015). When weakly affiliated Democrats received additional testosterone, the strength of their party fell by 12% (p=.01) and they reported 45% warmer feelings towards Republican candidates for president (p < 0.001). Our results demonstrate that testosterone induces a “red shift" among weakly-affiliated Democrats. This effect was associated with improved mood. No effects were found of testosterone administration for strongly affiliated Democrats or strong or weak Republicans. Our findings provide evidence that neuroactive hormones affect political preferences.

[Reiwa]

Here’s an example of the above: Galadriel in the upcoming Rings of Power series

Unlike Jackson’s portrayal (and I believe Tolkien’s) of Galadriel as the very feminine but very powerful wizard…

…this Galadriel is a warrior, wearing full plate, man-spreading her legs and showing us a dagger with some semi-phallic placement

Also, her husband from the Jackson movies (and Tolkien’s books) is completely MIA. So assuming he either is going to be dead or incapacitated. Why? Because Galadriel is one tough manly warrior woman, and she don’t need no man!

https://www.project1999.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=18427&stc=1&thumb=1&d=1660607635

To be fair, Celeborn is an extremely minor character. Now if they include Cirdan, you may have a point.

[Kaveh]

Here’s an example of the above: Galadriel in the upcoming Rings of Power series

Unlike Jackson’s portrayal (and I believe Tolkien’s) of Galadriel as the very feminine but very powerful wizard…

…this Galadriel is a warrior, wearing full plate, man-spreading her legs and showing us a dagger with some semi-phallic placement

Also, her husband from the Jackson movies (and Tolkien’s books) is completely MIA. So assuming he either is going to be dead or incapacitated. Why? Because Galadriel is one tough manly warrior woman, and she don’t need no man!

I just want the show to be good. If they fucked up LoTR I’m gonna be pissed

[robayon]

https://www.openicpsr.org/openicpsr/project/155441/version/V1/view

18428Wow, another "water is wet" study in the tank

[Jibartik]

toxic masculinity is #1 most powerful and we're worthless animals who send our best and most heroic and best versions of ourselves to die in wars so the toxic #1's can be on movie book covers, that's all there s too it.

[azeth]

feeling like the reality of the most recent developments deserves some sobriety in this thread and discussions like this. we're living through the most important event in America's history since 1776 and 1865

[Jibartik]

lol 9/11 just called and asked why you forgot.

[Reiwa]

feeling like the reality of the most recent developments deserves some sobriety in this thread and discussions like this. we're living through the most important event in America's history since 1776 and 1865

But it's just an executive privilege dispute? It's only a big deal if you want to weaken executive power up in here, up in here.

Frankie says Relax
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[Bardp1999]

Jibartik has posted in this thread over 4,000 times (yikes)

[Rethalis]

I just want the show to be good. If they fucked up LoTR I’m gonna be pissed

Its going to be shit if they kill off Galadriel and just have a whole show about Legolas with tits.

[Elizondo]

feeling like the reality of the most recent developments deserves some sobriety in this thread and discussions like this. we're living through the most important event in America's history since 1776 and 1865

hwFkvfj2xUk

[Reiwa]

Its going to be shit if they kill off Galadriel and just have a whole show about Legolas with tits.

What age is this show set in?

I think you could easily get 40 seasons out of the Silmarillion lol

[Rethalis]

What age is this show set in?

I think you could easily get 40 seasons out of the Silmarillion lol

That would be even more boring than watching someone walk in the woods.

[Jibartik]

But it's just an executive privilege dispute?

I do agree with azeth though, the 2nd coming of jesus is pretty cool.

[Elizondo]

WEgwhOTF1UU

[Reiwa]

That would be even more boring than watching someone walk in the woods.

It would have its moments.

https://i.imgur.com/iNpRwqe.png

[Reiwa]

@jib

Was Tolkien an Alantiscist? (https://lotr.fandom.com/wiki/Downfall_of_N%C3%BAmenor)

The Valar feared that this host could wreak havoc in Valinor, but they were forbidden from killing or otherwise using force against Men. Manwë, chief of the Valar, thus called upon Ilúvatar, who opened a massive chasm in the sea between Númenor and Aman that swallowed the Great Armament of Ar-Pharazôn. And the king himself, along with his host that had landed on Aman, was 'buried under falling hills', and would remain in the Caves of the Forgotten until the Dagor Dagorath. Númenor was drowned by a great wave and sank into the abyss, killing its inhabitants, including the body of Sauron, which robbed him his ability to assume fair forms ever after. Ilúvatar broke and changed the world, changing Arda's shape from flat to round and taking Aman and Tol Eressëa from the world forever, so that no mortal sailor could reach the True West again.

[Jibartik]

@jib

Was Tolkien an Alantiscist? (https://lotr.fandom.com/wiki/Downfall_of_N%C3%BAmenor)

Hmm idk much about tolken but didn't he invent dnd fantasy by adapting greek mythology and European stuff? If so he must have been into plato and atlantis.

[Reiwa]

Hmm idk much about tolken but didn't he invent dnd fantasy by adapting greek mythology and European stuff? If so he must have been into plato and atlantis.

I thought it was mostly Norse/High German edda stuff like the Rings of the Nibelung but ya probably.

Atlantis seems to have been a huge meme back then; grandma I never knew had books on Lemuria (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lemuria).

[azeth]

lol 9/11 just called and asked why you forgot.

9/11 didn't almost prevent the establishment of, or dissolve our union.

[Reiwa]

9/11 didn't almost prevent the establishment of, or dissolve our union.

https://i.imgur.com/t8JyOFc.png

[Jibartik]

https://i.imgur.com/t8JyOFc.png

:D the different is the word "almost"

[Reiwa]

:D the different is the word "almost"

But for the brave few (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Airlines_Flight_93)

Let's roll

[Elizondo]

9/11 didn't almost prevent the establishment of, or dissolve our union.

18429

[Lune]

your a idiot

[Elizondo]

your a idiot

"You're"

Hope that helps

[Homesteaded]

These people still believe J6 was almost the end of the USA, they can't be helped.

[azeth]

These people still believe J6 was almost the end of the USA, they can't be helped.

Idk how it could be argued otherwise. If the session didnt re-convene that evening our democratic government wouldve ended.

[Homesteaded]

Idk how it could be argued otherwise. If the session didnt re-convene that evening our democratic government wouldve ended.

So if the Government chose to not meet again, our democracy would have ended. Even though, ya know...they didn't reconvene because there was no reason they wouldn't have.

[azeth]

So if the Government chose to not meet again, our democracy would have ended. Even though, ya know...they didn't reconvene because there was no reason they wouldn't have.

There's no reason why they wouldn't have? Could you possibly be any less informed

If Joe Biden wasn't confirmed that night, all momentum was leaning toward Donald Trump influencing which electors would represent key swing states. If any doubt was sown by the non election of Joe Biden, the election would have been broadly determined to be fraudulent

[Reiwa]

There's no reason why they wouldn't have? Could you possibly be any less informed

If Joe Biden wasn't confirmed that night, all momentum was leaning toward Donald Trump influencing which electors would represent key swing states. If any doubt was sown by the non election of Joe Biden, the election would have been broadly determined to be fraudulent

How do you figure it would have went Tromp's way? Like it might be an irregularity in a year with an irregular election, but why wouldn't they just meet a day later, a week later, or whenever and do the same thing?

Your theory depends on acknowledging the validity of the mobs argument you know.

[Homesteaded]

Your theory depends on acknowledging the validity of the mobs argument you know.


:o

[Elizondo]

Idk how it could be argued otherwise. If the session didnt re-convene that evening our democratic government wouldve ended.

Kinda hard to overthrow the Government without any guns

[Homesteaded]

Kinda hard to overthrow the Government without any guns

They had zip ties though.

[Botten]

Kinda hard to overthrow the Government without any guns

Greeks meet Romans.
Oh wait… you don’t like being corrected.

[Elizondo]

They had zip ties though.

And a rickety stage prop with some scary looking rope

[Reiwa]

Is it the old Congress or the new Congress that decides whether to certify state elector slates?

Feature, not bug.

I hereby rule election fraud Constitutional.

[Botten]

They had zip ties though.

Guy Reffitt was charge with a gun at the Jan 6th riots. Two others are charged with bringing guns and explosives.

[Botten]

And a rickety stage prop with some scary looking rope

10+ defendants are charged using knives; one with an axe.

[Reiwa]

10+ defendants are charged using knives; one with an axe.

Respectable rate for the 2 million that were there that day.

[Botten]

Oops, sorry Jan 6th was actually like the FBI raid on Mar-logo. A ‘peaceful’ guided tour with police officers. Am I right you alt right nuts?

[Botten]

Respectable rate for the 2 million that were there that day.

My favorite were the 17 defendants using not all known chemical agents on officers.

[robayon]

I think if there's enough fists and the politicians are old & frail enough you could overthrow a government with fists. Or whatever force multipliers are laying around in whichever building we're referring to.

[Reiwa]

I think if there's enough fists and the politicians are old & frail enough you could overthrow a government with fists. Or whatever force multipliers are laying around in whichever building we're referring to.

https://i.imgur.com/ICXxQj0.gif

[Homesteaded]

United States Government overthrown by 10 Men. One with a gun, 5 with knives and one with a mountain dew bottle of gasoline, the rest had zip ties!


Right.


You're delusional and being fed lies. It's time to grow up and wake up, both would be best for business.

[Botten]

United States Government overthrown by 10 Men. One with a gun, 5 with knives and one with a mountain dew bottle of gasoline, the rest had zip ties!


Right.


You're delusional and being fed lies. It's time to grow up and wake up, both would be best for business.

Awe hell … who wants to see at least 75 pictured defendants with weapons at the Jan 6 protest at the capital.

https://news.yahoo.com/guns-knives-flagpoles-skateboard-guide-174530861.html

ReiRei .. I get it you are bored you want to argue something along the lines of neutrality.

Elizondo and Homestead seek help you nut bags.