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Kaveh
04-13-2020, 07:38 AM
Okay?
I hope you went to church today.
I’m a Baha’i, and wouldn’t risk spreading contagion even if I weren’t. You deliver a similar amount of opprobrium to the Hasidics who made NYC into the outbreak epicenter it is by being dumb asses? Probably not, Christians are an easy target (for morons). Have fun supporting China by shopping at Walmart, you should seek Christ and a marketable degree
Kaveh
04-13-2020, 07:39 AM
It’s over the horizon
Wrekt
04-13-2020, 10:25 AM
I’m a Baha’i, and wouldn’t risk spreading contagion even if I weren’t. You deliver a similar amount of opprobrium to the Hasidics who made NYC into the outbreak epicenter it is by being dumb asses? Probably not, Christians are an easy target (for morons). Have fun supporting China by shopping at Walmart, you should seek Christ and a marketable degree
Go to church.
BlackBellamy
04-13-2020, 10:48 AM
There's nothing I want more than for science deniers to go to church and work next to each other. So I agree with this.
If trump kills all the christian conservatives by trying to get the economy rolling, I'll vote for him.
What the fuck are you going to eat, software and ideas? Those people make all your food.
solleks
04-13-2020, 10:49 AM
Nobody is dying at church u earthworm
BlackBellamy
04-13-2020, 10:55 AM
Except for that one guy...or two or whatever.
https://imgur.com/ExD5VsY.jpg
solleks
04-13-2020, 11:07 AM
Driving a car is multiples more dangerous than breathing in a sneeze
Mblake81
04-13-2020, 11:15 AM
Driving a car is multiples more dangerous than breathing in a sneeze
You could trip over your own shoe laces, we need self tying smart shoes.
Swish
04-13-2020, 07:08 PM
https://i.imgur.com/fh182Qg.gif
Wrekt
04-13-2020, 10:17 PM
What the fuck are you going to eat, software and ideas? Those people make all your food.
god will provide. Go to church, heathen
Baler
04-14-2020, 08:19 AM
There is a lot of powerful information in this thread. :)
Kaveh
04-14-2020, 08:29 AM
god will provide. Go to church, heathen
Amen
Baler
04-14-2020, 08:31 AM
https://i.imgur.com/fsMd2Si.png
Baler
04-14-2020, 12:55 PM
Why does media look to politicians for answers and solutions,..
When all the answers and solutions are coming from scientists and medical workers.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HlnFuDCHpus
^
This is extremely dangerous to our democracy.
solleks
04-14-2020, 02:00 PM
How bout all those 33s *hard grin*
solleks
04-14-2020, 02:24 PM
Don't start think this is all humans or Freemasons. Those are just scapegoats for Satan , it's supernatural
Like an eclipse
Imo
JurisDictum
04-14-2020, 02:31 PM
Virginia pastor who defiantly held church service dies of coronavirus (https://nypost.com/2020/04/13/virginia-pastor-who-held-packed-church-service-dies-of-coronavirus/)
RIP
Let's say his religious beliefs are correct and he lands in heaven... He still is gonna have to put up with all that pointing a laughing.
solleks
04-14-2020, 03:28 PM
Ny post? U dumb?
Lojik
04-14-2020, 04:21 PM
Just make sure you have plenty of colloidal silver and forsythia on hand and you'll survive this corvid virus
Wrekt
04-14-2020, 10:03 PM
Just make sure you have plenty of colloidal silver and forsythia on hand and you'll survive this corvid virus
You have it all wrong. All you need is god. Seek him in church.
Ennewi
04-15-2020, 12:08 AM
How is russia? You know, that country that has a massive thousands of mile border with china? They must be getting savaged!?!? Let us know.
https://www.yahoo.com/news/putins-bleak-covid-19-admission-122708635.html
Baler
04-15-2020, 04:16 AM
China and Russia are doing great against covid, No one there is getting sick or dieing, the rest of the world just sucks at covid... lmfao yeahh the two biggest propaganda machines (next to the usa) claiming they're doing good against covid complete bullshit. What did they round up the sick people and melt them into ash....
And how about companies like google and apple wanting to TRACK YOU so they can "protect" you and your family against covid. I'm sure they would only use that for good and not publicly abuse it the way they privately abuse gps/tracking software already.
Yeah nothing bad happening in the world, Pull the wool over your eyes. Let the wolves play.
Power obtained in times of need is rarely given up when the problems end.
Swish
04-15-2020, 04:43 AM
How does a population of 1.4 billion people keep the virus out of Beijing and Shanghai? Anyone?...
Hoppkins_Wytchfinder
04-15-2020, 05:25 AM
How does a population of 1.4 billion people keep the virus out of Beijing and Shanghai? Anyone?...
China are lying and it hasnt been kept out. Some things are simpler than they seem.
bubur
04-15-2020, 08:28 AM
How does a population of 1.4 billion people keep the virus out of Beijing and Shanghai? Anyone?...
It's the noodles
Or the police squads disappearing ppl who coof or talk maybe
JurisDictum
04-15-2020, 10:44 AM
China and Russia are doing great against covid, No one there is getting sick or dieing, the rest of the world just sucks at covid... lmfao yeahh the two biggest propaganda machines (next to the usa) claiming they're doing good against covid complete bullshit. What did they round up the sick people and melt them into ash....
And how about companies like google and apple wanting to TRACK YOU so they can "protect" you and your family against covid. I'm sure they would only use that for good and not publicly abuse it the way they privately abuse gps/tracking software already.
Yeah nothing bad happening in the world, Pull the wool over your eyes. Let the wolves play.
Power obtained in times of need is rarely given up when the problems end.
It's a good point. But the truth is authoritarian countries do have a leg up on getting all their citizens to do 1 thing quickly. Id be shocked if anywhere in the west did as well as China.
Russia isn't as authoritarian day to day, but everyone keeps their distance from each other when they can anyway out there. Given that they are all a bunch of suspicious Russians.
BlackBellamy
04-16-2020, 06:49 AM
Authoritarian countries do another thing well and that is lie. If you asked those echo-chamber closed-loop Chinese motherfuckers what the death toll for the Great Leap Forward they would say "zero" and expect you to believe it because what.
China reports 3.3k covid deaths. I'm gonna go with a 100 thousand. I mean I don't know for sure but I have a much more credible record at putting out numbers so I would go with that over a bunch of serial liars. People report 40,000 urns being given out in Disease-bei which means 40k deaths they gave a shit about, which had a name and a number and a grieving relative. So another 60k just bulldozed into a giant pit. That's where I get my accurate 100k death count, definitely more reliable than the CCP. In fact I would be comfortable claiming that China has suffered more per capita deaths than four Italy's stacked on top of a beefy Spaniard.
solleks
04-16-2020, 07:16 AM
All countries lie.
Not being allowed to park at the beach or go to the park is authoritarian btw, that's us
All countries lie.
Not being allowed to park at the beach or go to the park is authoritarian btw, that's us
It's ensuring public safety for those who lack the mental capacity to do it on their own, that's you.
Hoppkins_Wytchfinder
04-16-2020, 08:04 AM
All countries lie.
Not being allowed to park at the beach or go to the park is authoritarian btw, that's us
Not being able to park at the beach or goto park. First world problems. Peak entitlement.
I doubt you have known actual hardship.
A haiku for you:
Solleks complained about his government
He thought he was being overly oppressed
Crikey my sides are splitting
Jimjam
04-16-2020, 08:09 AM
All countries lie.
Not being allowed to park at the beach or go to the park is authoritarian btw, that's us
Become landed gentry and you can do these things.
Mblake81
04-16-2020, 08:30 AM
Not being allowed to park at the beach or go to the park is authoritarian btw, that's us
It's ensuring public safety for those who lack the mental capacity to do it on their own, that's you.
If America is the land of the free then why does the healthcare cost money. -Social Media
solleks
04-16-2020, 09:07 AM
It's ensuring public safety for those who lack the mental capacity to do it on their own, that's you.
If you think it's not authoritarian you have mental disconnects and you are a boot licking cuck
solleks
04-16-2020, 09:15 AM
The plebs who believe the news condescending the people they call dumb to join the herd ironically those are the people who can't be deceived or are not invested in the boot licking society
Hoppkins_Wytchfinder
04-16-2020, 09:19 AM
The plebs who believe the news condescending the people they call dumb to join the herd ironically those are the people who can't be deceived or are not invested in the boot licking society
You say boot lick a lot. Probably a fetish.
solleks
04-16-2020, 09:23 AM
You say boot lick a lot. Probably a fetish.
It's visual , i make a picture in your head of how pathetic you are
Hoppkins_Wytchfinder
04-16-2020, 09:27 AM
It's visual , i make a picture in your head of how pathetic you are
Well doubtless you obey the rules of not going to said parks/beaches. By obeying your a boot lick by proxy.
Another haiku:
He called everyone a bootlick
But infact he didnt break the rules
Subzero bootlick freeze back attack
solleks
04-16-2020, 09:30 AM
Masterbate all day
Cant stop waxing my penis
Cumming in my hand
Hoppkins_Wytchfinder
04-16-2020, 09:32 AM
Masterbate all day
Cant stop waxing my penis
Cumming in my hand
:D
solleks
04-16-2020, 09:32 AM
Too busy making tons of money i don't go to the beach or the park i have tons of land.
Sorry I'm a handsome millionaire
solleks
04-16-2020, 09:34 AM
You are getting too personal. I am pointing out that tge u.s. is currently authoritarian and the federal government lies . im not a rule breaker
Hoppkins_Wytchfinder
04-16-2020, 09:44 AM
lol
BlackBellamy
04-16-2020, 09:50 AM
Saying all countries lie is like saying all people post on forums. Cause some fuckers just Post Quick Reply but the true master will always Go Advanced.
Here are how some countries are doing versus some others. Notice the countries where everyone wears a mask just for the fuck of it versus the rugged individualists? Who's coughing now?
https://imgur.com/5GZIiK7.jpg
solleks
04-16-2020, 09:57 AM
Dick and balls graph cool and pountless, didnt look at waste of jpg
Hoppkins_Wytchfinder
04-16-2020, 10:01 AM
No one coughing, hospitals empty less people sick than ever
<pity reply>
galach
04-16-2020, 10:29 AM
I saw this on Drudge. Thoughts?
https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/sudden-militarization-wuhans-p4-lab-raises-new-questions-about-origin-deadly-covid-19
Funny how the "lab conspiracy theory" is now what Fox is saying what happened.
Sibelia1
04-16-2020, 04:52 PM
everyone is over it here. yesterday it seemed like we had all collectively given up on living like City 17. ppl smiley and hot girls sweating in their running gear. We don't have a large reserve of obese minorities to protect up here so it's going pretty good. Haven't seen anyone symptomatic.
magnetaress
04-16-2020, 05:08 PM
I have not been beyond the limits of my porch in 6 weeks
Bigsham
04-16-2020, 05:47 PM
I have not been beyond the limits of my porch in 6 weeks
Just like normally
magnetaress
04-16-2020, 05:52 PM
Just like normally
fucking lold xude but i did have a lot of social interaction a few months ago when i was showering with human feces in the psychic ward
magnetaress
04-16-2020, 06:50 PM
This seems to be the current chatty thread so here's a thing...
I lay down and sleep, last night i slept like the dead, i get up and walk around do some stuff, i take a good 15 minute nap but when i get all cuddled up infront of my computer screen it suddenly feels like i'm a mummy roaming the desert of south ro and my eyes are little prunes in their sockets, i lay back down for 30 mins and close them, i get up again and instantly bamb, right back to the same thing its like i can almost never 'feel rested'
Cecily
04-16-2020, 07:55 PM
Fell asleep face down on the couch arm rest. Woke up, stretched the cramps out of my neck, and went back to bed. Played video game on phone for like 3 hours. Made hamburgers. Went back to bed. It's almost 8pm now.
I wonder if I have the plague again. I spent probably 2-3 weeks in January /February hyper fatigued with my days going exactly like this. Think injections fatigue the crap out of me on day 1 and 2 tbh.
magnetaress
04-16-2020, 08:30 PM
Fell asleep face down on the couch arm rest. Woke up, stretched the cramps out of my neck, and went back to bed. Played video game on phone for like 3 hours. Made hamburgers. Went back to bed. It's almost 8pm now.
I wonder if I have the plague again. I spent probably 2-3 weeks in January /February hyper fatigued with my days going exactly like this. Think injections fatigue the crap out of me on day 1 and 2 tbh.
That should be the opposite unless ur blood sugar is plummeting which is possible.
I kinda ruled that out as I stopped all meds cold turkey from the day I got out of the psych ward till one week ago. I actually feel a tad better again with my meds on board. Back to about two weeks regular maintenance. Little more energy. Less absolutely abysmal tremor ridden lows.
I wonder what is going on with you.
Put in earplugs, eye mask, burying myself in blankets, aiming for total sensory deprivation. Going back under.
Sibelia1
04-16-2020, 09:56 PM
Put in earplugs, eye mask, burying myself in blankets, aiming for total sensory deprivation. Going back under.
u should get someone to hepl you with that...if u didnt realize
BlackBellamy
04-17-2020, 10:01 AM
This is not the "chatty thread"!
This is serious business only. Everyone has problems that can be solved with chamomile and cats; this is not the place for minor issues like that.
Allowed topics for CORONAVIRUS Death Thread:
Coronavirus
The Earth and it's Shape
The Existence of God and his Omnipotence
Where to get Good Weed
RMT
Wrekt
04-17-2020, 11:40 AM
If America is the land of the free then why does the healthcare cost money. -Social Media
America has ~25% of the world's incarnated population and only ~4% of the world's total population.
Land of the free, though...
Wrekt
04-17-2020, 11:43 AM
This is not the "chatty thread"!
This is serious business only. Everyone has problems that can be solved with chamomile and cats; this is not the place for minor issues like that.
Allowed topics for CORONAVIRUS Death Thread:
Coronavirus
The Earth and it's Shape
The Existence of God and his Omnipotence
Where to get Good Weed
RMT
Seek god, troll.
Baler
04-17-2020, 11:57 AM
How has government learned to better control it's people thanks to covid. In the name of protecting the public health. Which they're not legally obligated to protect.
Gwaihir
04-17-2020, 01:53 PM
Waffles for breakfast.
17 close friends and family and self cured with 3 days of Marah tea so far.
Praise the Lord
Suck it, Godless Heathens.
Kaveh
04-17-2020, 03:47 PM
America has ~25% of the world's incarnated population and only ~4% of the world's total population.
Land of the free, though...
If any country in Africa were stable enough to collect taxes and build jails, that would change
hope this helps
BlackBellamy
04-17-2020, 05:03 PM
If any country in Africa were stable enough to collect taxes and build jails, that would change
hope this helps
In many movies Africa is portrayed as a poor lawless place with little regard for life where every day is a struggle. The reality is that I enjoy those movies, especially ones like The Wild Geese where a bunch of white mercenaries try to rescue someone, I forget exactly what happens except a lot of local people get shot and also the evil guys are called The Simbas which is just so insensitively awesome. Also Richard Burton, Roger Moore, and Richard Harris so that right there I mean what, right?
BlackBellamy
04-17-2020, 05:11 PM
I mean look at these guys:
https://imgur.com/jQm3yn0.jpg
BlackBellamy
04-17-2020, 05:13 PM
By the way that says POISON and CYANIDE on the box Harris has strapped to his leg. My guess it's some fine fucking Scotch in there the boys are gonna have later.
If I could pick three guys to drink with, that's it right there.
Wrekt
04-17-2020, 06:27 PM
If any country in Africa were stable enough to collect taxes and build jails, that would change
hope this helps
Land of the free. LMAO
More like land of the incarcerated, home of the sick.
Wealthiest nation that can't afford health care. LoL
Baler
04-17-2020, 08:57 PM
Most people are ready to get back to work/normal life
:(
bubur
04-17-2020, 11:25 PM
Wealthiest nation that can't afford health care.
i can afford it
lol
BlackBellamy
04-17-2020, 11:59 PM
Land of the free. LMAO
More like land of the incarcerated, home of the sick.
Wealthiest nation that can't afford health care. LoL
I would suggest a Catholic Charity Hospital, they provide excellent care to indigent parolees like you. Their case manager will work directly with your halfway house give them a try (855) CHS-4500.
Sibelia1
04-18-2020, 12:22 AM
Most people are ready to get back to work/normal life
:(
even me, i miss being normal NEET ;_; like not along with all fkng Normies
Wrekt
04-18-2020, 01:53 AM
I would suggest a Catholic Charity Hospital, they provide excellent care to indigent parolees like you. Their case manager will work directly with your halfway house give them a try (855) CHS-4500.
Why would I do that when this guy exists?
Get good, find god.
Go to church you fucking sheep
BlackBellamy
04-18-2020, 10:52 AM
God works through his appointed representative the Bishop of Rome who administers the Magisterium of the Supreme Pontiff which provides care through various charities even to people like you. God isn't going to heal you directly you proddywoddy soup-taker heretic denier of the Trinity. You need to register at the front desk like everyone.
Visual
04-18-2020, 12:07 PM
The autism is strong with this one
BlackBellamy
04-18-2020, 01:39 PM
First resistance against the fascist power grab:
https://imgur.com/xioCu3S.jpg
In New Jersey I think yesterday they arrested a woman for organizing and leading a public protest against an executive order dealing with the pandemic.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8232457/Woman-organized-anti-lockdown-rally-New-Jersey-arrested-violating-stay-home-orders.html
Understand this: The right to petition the government with grievances is our most fundamental right. It's literally why we formed this country and it was the reason the first blood was shed. Now you have a single person, an executive, issuing an order that people no longer have that right and they will be arrested. Because that's what they want because circumstances. It's not like they really want you to stay at home and encourage you to do so. No it's do it or they will send men with guns to put you in a hole or to put holes in you take your pick. Even if the reason you're leaving home is because of your most holy enshrined right to do so.
Know this: You have no rights. All that spoon-fed bullshit about the Constitution and all those wonderful amendments and how we love the Rule of Law and all those branches of government keeping check on each other means absolutely nothing. It's just mind-control propaganda. Because as soon as they possibly can, those who rule us turn into fascists and start throwing people in jail for simple defiance. And those who enforce those orders, our blue knights who ride like heroes to joust with danger every day, they are the first to step on your neck and put you in irons because they take their orders from the top, not from you or old pieces of paper.
Reporter: “By what authority did you nullify the Bill of Rights in issuing this order? How do you have the power to do that?”
New Jersey Governor Phil Murphy: “I wasn’t thinking of the Bill of Rights when we did this.”
Translation: Because fuck you, that's why.
One day, perhaps I'll live to see it, those motherfuckers will hang. There will be another rising and a lot of people will die. People think it won't happen but it will, and when it does it's going to happen overnight and it will be like nothing anyone has ever seen. Every nascent fascist out there should remember how quickly armed people can come together here.
"What country can preserve its liberties if their rulers are not warned from time to time that their people preserve the spirit of resistance. Let them take arms."
- Thomas Jefferson, letter to James Madison
Karkona
04-18-2020, 04:29 PM
Thats just New Jersey
BlackBellamy
04-18-2020, 04:55 PM
Yeah you're right.
Baler
04-18-2020, 05:32 PM
Vaccine 2021 here we come!
Bigsham
04-18-2020, 07:36 PM
Everyone who thinks the quarantine should be lifted has not had corona yet
It is not a joke, but dont worry you will get it soon i promise.
Woke Locc
04-18-2020, 09:04 PM
First resistance against the fascist power grab:
https://imgur.com/xioCu3S.jpg
In New Jersey I think yesterday they arrested a woman for organizing and leading a public protest against an executive order dealing with the pandemic.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8232457/Woman-organized-anti-lockdown-rally-New-Jersey-arrested-violating-stay-home-orders.html
Understand this: The right to petition the government with grievances is our most fundamental right. It's literally why we formed this country and it was the reason the first blood was shed. Now you have a single person, an executive, issuing an order that people no longer have that right and they will be arrested. Because that's what they want because circumstances. It's not like they really want you to stay at home and encourage you to do so. No it's do it or they will send men with guns to put you in a hole or to put holes in you take your pick. Even if the reason you're leaving home is because of your most holy enshrined right to do so.
Know this: You have no rights. All that spoon-fed bullshit about the Constitution and all those wonderful amendments and how we love the Rule of Law and all those branches of government keeping check on each other means absolutely nothing. It's just mind-control propaganda. Because as soon as they possibly can, those who rule us turn into fascists and start throwing people in jail for simple defiance. And those who enforce those orders, our blue knights who ride like heroes to joust with danger every day, they are the first to step on your neck and put you in irons because they take their orders from the top, not from you or old pieces of paper.
Translation: Because fuck you, that's why.
One day, perhaps I'll live to see it, those motherfuckers will hang. There will be another rising and a lot of people will die. People think it won't happen but it will, and when it does it's going to happen overnight and it will be like nothing anyone has ever seen. Every nascent fascist out there should remember how quickly armed people can come together here.
https://youtu.be/b_qCP8lFmlE
Sibelia1
04-18-2020, 10:10 PM
https://youtu.be/b_qCP8lFmlE
haha You are totally pathetic...caught u at the trough boi
Woke Locc
04-18-2020, 10:29 PM
haha You are totally pathetic...caught u at the trough boi
Sure thing, longpig
Thrombosis
04-19-2020, 07:24 AM
Any Swedes bothering to read this thread? If so would be interested to hear your views on how it's going.
Sweden is interesting because it's the only western country I'm aware of that isn't bothering with a lock-down and instead relying on the developing herd immunity quickly strategy the UK originally wanted to follow. Some reports this morning suggest it is working: https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8233783/Sweden-herd-immunity-month-claims-infectious-diseases-chief.html
Gatorsmash
04-19-2020, 08:11 AM
Any Swedes bothering to read this thread? If so would be interested to hear your views on how it's going.
Sweden is interesting because it's the only western country I'm aware of that isn't bothering with a lock-down and instead relying on the developing herd immunity quickly strategy the UK originally wanted to follow. Some reports this morning suggest it is working: https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8233783/Sweden-herd-immunity-month-claims-infectious-diseases-chief.html
Herd immunity doesn't work like that with a virus........that's why nobody but the really fucking stupid are trying it. There are currently thought to be two versions (h)(j) but too early to verify.
BlackBellamy
04-19-2020, 08:26 AM
Any Swedes bothering to read this thread? If so would be interested to hear your views on how it's going.
Sweden is interesting because it's the only western country I'm aware of that isn't bothering with a lock-down and instead relying on the developing herd immunity quickly strategy the UK originally wanted to follow. Some reports this morning suggest it is working: https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8233783/Sweden-herd-immunity-month-claims-infectious-diseases-chief.html
Yes this is very interesting. Read this article https://www.project-syndicate.org/commentary/swedish-coronavirus-no-lockdown-model-proves-lethal-by-hans-bergstrom-2020-04
The COVID-19 death rate is nine times higher than in Finland, nearly five times higher than in Norway, and more than twice as high as in Denmark.
In order to achieve herd immunity you have to front-load the cost. It appears that's what is happening here.
Also very interesting is the international perception is that the Swedes are choosing this as a rational and informed strategy but the article heavily implies that they arrived at this result through incompetence or at least bad organization and leadership.
Baler
04-19-2020, 10:14 AM
Healthy people protesting so they can go back to work.
Jimjam
04-19-2020, 12:33 PM
Healthy people protesting so they can go back to work.
TBH their mistake for not spending their best years cultivating piles of unpainted Warhammer models and video game addictions, like us cool and normal, well balanced folks did.
Baler
04-19-2020, 12:38 PM
TBH their mistake for not spending their best years cultivating piles of unpainted Warhammer models and video game addictions, like us cool and normal, well balanced folks did.
:o I haven't bought/collected in a very long time. I've got a tau and space wolf collection gathering dust in a drawer. The persons I use to play with moved away and there just isn't that many people in bum fk no where who play.
cool and normal
My social distancing is miles
Jimjam
04-19-2020, 12:50 PM
Two very cool and very different armies! Maybe you should open the drawer, dust off those old man dollys and start arranging some toy soldier fight scenes? Then again, eq is a very good investment of spare time too...
My social distancing is measured in years :D
Baler
04-19-2020, 04:34 PM
Y'all better maintain social distancing or the man will come and take you away.
Bigsham
04-19-2020, 08:27 PM
tried reading this swedish model but its written by a guy who likes the sound of his own voice. Can anyone sum it up into 1 or 2 sentences?
Kaveh
04-19-2020, 09:25 PM
tried reading this swedish model but its written by a guy who likes the sound of his own voice. Can anyone sum it up into 1 or 2 sentences?
Epidemiologist who doesn’t believe in the seriousness of covid-19 leads Swedish response, Swedish government finds itself on its back foot and reverses course months after the rest of Europe, due to statistics showing Sweden having a death rate significantly higher (at least double) than neighboring countries
BlackBellamy
04-19-2020, 10:38 PM
Børk, børk, børk! Epîdëmîøløgîst whø døësn’t bëlîëvë în thë sërîøüsnëss øf cøvîd-19 lëåds swëdîsh rëspønsë, swëdîsh gøvërnmënt fînds îtsëlf øn îts båck føøt ånd rëvërsës cøürsë mønths åftër thë rëst øf eürøpë, düë tø ståtîstîcs shøwîng swëdën håvîng å dëåth råtë sîgnîfîcåntly hîghër (åt lëåst døüblë) thån nëîghbørîng cøüntrîës. Børk, børk, børk!
for further clarity
Hoppkins_Wytchfinder
04-20-2020, 03:09 AM
Two very cool and very different armies! Maybe you should open the drawer, dust off those old man dollys and start arranging some toy soldier fight scenes? Then again, eq is a very good investment of spare time too...
My social distancing is measured in years :D
Got a massive imperial guard army (which i regret purely for how long it takes to move them all) and just got my 9 yo daughter the space marine/chaos marine starter set.
Good time to get it :)
Baler
04-20-2020, 03:27 AM
Got a massive imperial guard army (which i regret purely for how long it takes to move them all) and just got my 9 yo daughter the space marine/chaos marine starter set.
Good time to get it :)
Imperial guard lore is actually really strong, a universe of men just trying to survive fighting back the hordes of invaders. Kinda..
But I enjoy fighting imperial guard, they always got a trick up their sleeve that's so plain but OP when realized.
Wrekt
04-20-2020, 03:54 AM
First resistance against the fascist power grab:
https://imgur.com/xioCu3S.jpg
In New Jersey I think yesterday they arrested a woman for organizing and leading a public protest against an executive order dealing with the pandemic.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8232457/Woman-organized-anti-lockdown-rally-New-Jersey-arrested-violating-stay-home-orders.html
Understand this: The right to petition the government with grievances is our most fundamental right. It's literally why we formed this country and it was the reason the first blood was shed. Now you have a single person, an executive, issuing an order that people no longer have that right and they will be arrested. Because that's what they want because circumstances. It's not like they really want you to stay at home and encourage you to do so. No it's do it or they will send men with guns to put you in a hole or to put holes in you take your pick. Even if the reason you're leaving home is because of your most holy enshrined right to do so.
Know this: You have no rights. All that spoon-fed bullshit about the Constitution and all those wonderful amendments and how we love the Rule of Law and all those branches of government keeping check on each other means absolutely nothing. It's just mind-control propaganda. Because as soon as they possibly can, those who rule us turn into fascists and start throwing people in jail for simple defiance. And those who enforce those orders, our blue knights who ride like heroes to joust with danger every day, they are the first to step on your neck and put you in irons because they take their orders from the top, not from you or old pieces of paper.
Translation: Because fuck you, that's why.
One day, perhaps I'll live to see it, those motherfuckers will hang. There will be another rising and a lot of people will die. People think it won't happen but it will, and when it does it's going to happen overnight and it will be like nothing anyone has ever seen. Every nascent fascist out there should remember how quickly armed people can come together here.
You're goddamned right. Go protest. Go to church. Don't let ANYONE tell you what to do especially if they're using that pesky science to justify it.
Protest and attend church so that natural selection can speed up and we can have a decrease in the massive Dunning-Kruger effect that we have now.
god is all you need. Science is heresy!
Thrombosis
04-20-2020, 05:10 AM
tried reading this swedish model but its written by a guy who likes the sound of his own voice. Can anyone sum it up into 1 or 2 sentences?
As I understand it, basically only the old and vulnerable are locked down, everyone else carries on as normal. Pubs and restaurants and most other businesses are open. They know they'll have a high death rate at first, but overall they think it will be lower when other countries who did have a lock-down suffer with second and third waves of coronavirus because they'll gain herd immunity.
Swish
04-20-2020, 07:08 AM
So are they coming for America's guns again?
Hoppkins_Wytchfinder
04-20-2020, 07:51 AM
Imperial guard lore is actually really strong, a universe of men just trying to survive fighting back the hordes of invaders. Kinda..
But I enjoy fighting imperial guard, they always got a trick up their sleeve that's so plain but OP when realized.
Ya i got em because i loved Starship Troopers so much :D my friend got Tyranids so it was pretty apt.
And yeah i made a company of 50 men once and used the FIRST LINE FIRE SECOND LINE FIRE. 150 dice with crappy lasguns was blisteringly effective even against Space Marines :D
The new rules are a bit weird, no more templates. So my leman russes took a bit of a hit but my hellhound is even better now.
Gatorsmash
04-20-2020, 08:08 AM
I cant be the only one secretly cheering the religious and protesters on in the dipshit states. Its about time they got a taste of harsh reality.
Edit- like BlackBellamy not understanding all those shelter in place orders and closes are backed up by state and the federal constitutions under emergency orders
Jimjam
04-20-2020, 09:05 AM
Teppler wasn’t far wrong. Except instead of ‘rounding up’ they ‘sent home’. Made people’s homes their own prisons.
I’d love to be able to get his perspective on whats going on.
I’ve been isolated at home for a month now, only leaving the house to turn the car over.
Sibelia1
04-20-2020, 02:07 PM
I cant be the only one secretly cheering the religious and protesters on in the dipshit states. Its about time they got a taste of harsh reality.
Where is this sort of viciousness bred? Have you ever spent any time in flyover? Dared to love someone there? :rolleyes:
wishing death from covid on the ppl you hate from "dipshit states"...would be gr8 if there were an admin around to banhammer
Sibelia1
04-20-2020, 02:15 PM
looks liek the state decided I deserve more unemployment, plus +$600 federalbux on it a week, for 13 weeks, even tho I "retired under 30" almost 2 years ago :D
*sips corona*
BlackBellamy
04-20-2020, 03:11 PM
I cant be the only one secretly cheering the religious and protesters on in the dipshit states. Its about time they got a taste of harsh reality.
Edit- like BlackBellamy not understanding all those shelter in place orders and closes are backed up by state and the federal constitutions under emergency orders
That wasn't my point. The people will decide when this ends. And if government stooges start arresting people for expressing themselves then it might end in a way that's not wholesome. People don't care about reasonable basis to ensure the public health and welfare when they're angry because they're out of work and hungry and isolated and being told what to do by self-congratulatory mannequins on television.
Thrombosis
04-20-2020, 03:36 PM
Where is this sort of viciousness bred?
In the newspapers and on television, on social media, in schools and workplaces. It's the way of the world I'm afraid.
Gatorsmash
04-20-2020, 06:35 PM
Where is this sort of viciousness bred? Have you ever spent any time in flyover? Dared to love someone there? :rolleyes:
wishing death from covid on the ppl you hate from "dipshit states"...would be gr8 if there were an admin around to banhammer
I didnt wish death. I said "harsh reality" since people are skipping the part where the large percentage of people who are hospitalized but survive are hit with 6 figures hospital bills. And below
That wasn't my point. The people will decide when this ends. And if government stooges start arresting people for expressing themselves then it might end in a way that's not wholesome. People don't care about reasonable basis to ensure the public health and welfare when they're angry because they're out of work and hungry and isolated and being told what to do by self-congratulatory mannequins on television.
Ya, that's not how laws and constitutions work. Does explain your posting history tho
In the newspapers and on television, on social media, in schools and workplaces. It's the way of the world I'm afraid.
Wife's a RN. Watching dipshits acting like dipshits till they catch covid-19 and suddenly "wow your right" because they need to be saved as medical personnel continue to die is what that's from
Kaveh
04-20-2020, 06:52 PM
looks liek the state decided I deserve more unemployment, plus +$600 federalbux on it a week, for 13 weeks, even tho I "retired under 30" almost 2 years ago :D
*sips corona*
Big J? Seemed like you before, definitely seems like it now
Kaveh
04-20-2020, 07:03 PM
Lol, blame flyover, not the Hasidic Jews in New York who started the deadly outbreak or the Chinese who created the virus and lied about it. Red necks don’t eat or fuck bats, but the people who make the iPhone you’ll line up for do
Hope this helps, traitorous idiots
And to be clear, I don’t think it was made in a lab, I mean they eat bats, their stupidity and obfuscation “created” it.
Wrekt
04-21-2020, 02:29 AM
Lol, blame flyover, not the Hasidic Jews in New York who started the deadly outbreak or the Chinese who created the virus and lied about it. Red necks don’t eat or fuck bats, but the people who make the iPhone you’ll line up for do
Hope this helps, traitorous idiots
And to be clear, I don’t think it was made in a lab, I mean they eat bats, their stupidity and obfuscation “created” it.
You need to be protesting and in church.
BlackBellamy
04-21-2020, 09:31 AM
Ya, that's not how laws and constitutions work. Does explain your posting history tho
If you read my posting history you would know I shy away from personal insults but you sound pretty gullible. You think some guy waving a piece of paper is going to calm an angry mob? You really believe that because we have laws and constitutions that unrest is unlikely to happen?
Here, roleplay this for me: Your chief of security tells you the crowd outside the capitol building is now so large and so rowdy that the state police can no longer guarantee your safety. Do you:
a) Leave out the back door with your detail.
b) Order the state police to shoot the protesters if they have to.
c) Go out on the balcony with a copy of your executive order and one of your attorneys and explain to the crowd that this executive order authority flows through the state legislature and the state and federal constitutions.
I bet you're a big balcony fan aren't ya. Yeah me too. I love that balcony.
Fammaden
04-21-2020, 09:38 AM
B and then A while the police aren't looking, unless they shoot me first for giving them the order.
https://i.imgur.com/0tmxbH4.jpg
Kaveh
04-21-2020, 10:29 AM
You need to be protesting and in church.
I wouldn’t protest lol, those guys are idiots
Bigsham
04-21-2020, 12:27 PM
They just havent gotten sick yet, some people need to learn the hard way. Everyone who thinks the country needs to reopen needs a dose of corona. When the dry lungs hit and you cant breathe you will change your attitude quick.
kjs86z
04-21-2020, 01:02 PM
jpow money printer go brrrrrrrrrrrr
https://youtu.be/GI7sBsBHdCk
BlackBellamy
04-21-2020, 03:59 PM
Yesterday I bought eight hundred barrels of North Sea crude at -$40 a barrel. They owe me $32,000 and 800 barrels of juice. Anyway, I was really surprised the price didn't include the barrels. I mean when I buy two gallons of milk at the supermarket they don't just pour it into my cart. I was arguing with the guy but he was crying so it was hard to get through. I wound up buying my own barrels from Amazon for $38 bucks a pop so I'm still up $1600. And after I pour all that oil in my neighbors pond I'll still have the barrels!
Kaveh
04-21-2020, 04:14 PM
Yesterday I bought eight hundred barrels of North Sea crude at -$40 a barrel. They owe me $32,000 and 800 barrels of juice. Anyway, I was really surprised the price didn't include the barrels. I mean when I buy two gallons of milk at the supermarket they don't just pour it into my cart. I was arguing with the guy but he was crying so it was hard to get through. I wound up buying my own barrels from Amazon for $38 bucks a pop so I'm still up $1600. And after I pour all that oil in my neighbors pond I'll still have the barrels!
Funny you mention this, I bought a barge and am having it moved from
Mississippi to Texas. I filled a negative contract which paid for the barge, if/when oil rebounds I’ll be making around $400,000. Also have capacity on my ranch and bought 10 8400 gallon semi trailers that I’m gonna park out there, make a good chunk of cash
I love being persian, it’s like being a Jew with a soul
Gwaihir
04-21-2020, 04:28 PM
Funny you mention this, I bought a barge and am having it moved from
Mississippi to Texas. I filled a negative contract which paid for the barge, if/when oil rebounds I’ll be making around $400,000. Also have capacity on my ranch and bought 10 8400 gallon semi trailers that I’m gonna park out there, make a good chunk of cash
I love being persian, it’s like being a Jew with a soul
those damned Sethians
Gwaihir
04-21-2020, 04:29 PM
They just havent gotten sick yet, some people need to learn the hard way. Everyone who thinks the country needs to reopen needs a dose of corona. When the dry lungs hit and you cant breathe you will change your attitude quick.
when they get sick, Like in the 2012 Olympics opening Ceremony?
Bigsham
04-21-2020, 04:42 PM
I saw the price of oil and its funny when something like that bombs everyone throws money in then it blows up
Kaveh
04-21-2020, 04:51 PM
I saw the price of oil and its funny when something like that bombs everyone throws money in then it blows up
I hope it comes back quickly, Texas is going to get hammered if not
Bigsham
04-21-2020, 05:11 PM
It will, billions were thrown at oil
consumption is down currently, just a big opportunity to buy
BlackBellamy
04-21-2020, 05:18 PM
Funny you mention this, I bought a barge and am having it moved from
Mississippi to Texas. I filled a negative contract which paid for the barge, if/when oil rebounds I’ll be making around $400,000. Also have capacity on my ranch and bought 10 8400 gallon semi trailers that I’m gonna park out there, make a good chunk of cash
I love being persian, it’s like being a Jew with a soul
So you're saying you have a spare empty barge? We need to talk. I mean I'm joking of course, I'm just a small time operator and my dreams of barging will remain just that, but like if you're just going to take the plates off and leave your spare empty barge somewhere then yeah I mean I'll take it for sure.
Sibelia1
04-21-2020, 06:44 PM
Funny you mention this, I bought a barge and am having it moved from
Mississippi to Texas. I filled a negative contract which paid for the barge, if/when oil rebounds I’ll be making around $400,000. Also have capacity on my ranch and bought 10 8400 gallon semi trailers that I’m gonna park out there, make a good chunk of cash
I love being persian, it’s like being a Jew with a soul
Antiochus should have dealt with ur family, mede
magnetaress
04-21-2020, 08:23 PM
Will I get in trouble for saying Corona19 is just not effective enough?
Baler
04-21-2020, 08:30 PM
People want to get back to work.
I work from home and even I have had an extreme shortage of work.
LET THE PEOPLE WORK
https://i.imgur.com/FgRoKOw.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/oB6WBB4.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/cjNH8ap.jpg
Sibelia1
04-21-2020, 09:21 PM
interesting "part" number. bet that girl is dateable
bubur
04-21-2020, 09:23 PM
i like the writing. looks like it was made with a giant crayon
BlackBellamy
04-21-2020, 09:36 PM
She's holding three signs. I wonder if she connecting other political systems with arbitrary conditions?
Fish Licences
=
Syndical Anarchism
People Talking Loud In Restaurants
=
The Princely State Period (India, 1721–1949)
Baler
04-21-2020, 09:49 PM
Let healthy people go back to work.
I was freaking out about the virus before anyone even gave a fucking shit
Now I don't give a fucking shit, Let us fucking work.
Think about that. Everyon is delayed in their response,. they're brainwashed by media, left,right,middle top, it doesnt matter.
WAKE UP, feed your family, don't listen to politicians.
Let healthy people go back to work.
I was freaking out about the virus before anyone even gave a fucking shit
Now I don't give a fucking shit, Let us fucking work.
Think about that. Everyon is delayed in their response,. they're brainwashed by media, left,right,middle top, it doesnt matter.
WAKE UP, feed your family, don't listen to politicians.
You know that you can have the virus and spread it for days until you notice that you`re sick right?
Baler
04-21-2020, 10:00 PM
You know that you can have the virus and spread it for days until you notice that you`re sick right?
Starving to death vs getting antibodies from an illness.
You measure which matters more/
People are brainwashed into the coronavirus now.. I was causing a fuss when it wasn't even on the radar and NO ONE listened to me. But now that people are "educated" they think they know what's best... Making fun of hard working people is not fun nor a joke.
Literally every R-tard online right now is making fun of people who go out in public without a mask that want to work.
Starving to death vs getting antibodies from an illness.
You measure which matters more/
Didnt you Americans got " Trump Dollars (https://thegrio.com/2020/04/15/stimulus-checks-delayed-trump/) " ?
Baler
04-21-2020, 10:07 PM
Didnt you Americans got " Trump Dollars (https://thegrio.com/2020/04/15/stimulus-checks-delayed-trump/) " ?
I understand you're not from america and I respect that. I never stated america in anything I said. Your dislike for trump has nothing to do with this topic.
The fact is people have recovered,.. Keeping healthy people at home is a dictatorship.
BUT BUT BUT BALER the public health responsibility we have!!!
I'm not saying we throw caution to the wind and not test temperatures/Simptom,. or deliver contaminated goods to elderly people.
But to keep healthy people at home is destroying the world economy, not just a single country.
Baler
04-21-2020, 10:19 PM
Europe is interesting in this race...
It's divided by many, many, many lines between countries.
So how each individual country does against covid is various.
You may share the Euro but you don't share the same healthcare system.
Which makes large countries an easy target as.. "OOOHH look at your numbers you fucked up." childish behavior. OH this is a covid topic?
Your dislike for trump has nothing to do with this topic.
exactly. This is not a political topic. The Virus dont care what color you have or vote for. The Virus dont care if your economy is doing good or bad.
So dont talk about "dictatorship".
don't listen to politicians.
You forgot to add "and dont listen to people on the Internet. Listen to the health experts and doctors" and they say "stay the fuck home until the situation is better under control".
I dont know much about the american military, but in the german military the highest navy grade you can get is the Admiral. As an Admiral you are the big Boss of the navy. But the navy medic have the right to even put an Admiral under quarantine if its to protect himself or the crew.
My english sucks to explain it in detail but I hope you understand what I mean.
You can believe and say what you want, but facts are facts.
And right now the best thing you can do is to keep as much social distance to each other as possible.
I understand that you are worried about your job and money you're losing right now, and I hope you get all the help which is needed. But being to lax during this situation right now would cause only more deaths and cost you at the end even more.
Baler
04-21-2020, 10:26 PM
exactly. This is not a political topic. ...
...health experts ...
I understand that you are worried about you job and money you're losing right now, and I hope you get all the help which is needed. But being to lax during this situation right now would cause only more deaths and cost you at the end even more.
Media dictates that politicians are your "health experts" WAKE UP
In terms of losing money, it's not just myself... It's not just America,... it's several, if not all countries in the world. It's a great time to make fun of trump sure but it also applies to Europe and Asia.
Edit:PS. Domo I think we're splitting hairs and can actually agree on several things. We just don't communicate in the same way and thus butt heads.
I don't mean any disrespect to you. Even if im wrong or even if you're wrong. OPEN dialogue is important!!!
"Yesterday's luxury is tomorrow's basic need"
I rather lose some money then a loved one.
And I also think that we can get this situation faster under control if we all try our best to keep the social contacts at a minimum. (for now)
I wish ya good luck. stay healthy
Baler
04-21-2020, 10:32 PM
a global vaccine wont be until 2021 as i've predicted based on information prior, during and post events.
which sucks for those at the most risk to the effects of this illness whom should be considered the most to preserve their life.
Baler
04-21-2020, 11:27 PM
too much "I" in those posts baler
That's how they getcha
I'm a black man living in a white mans world.
Jimjam
04-22-2020, 02:37 AM
a global vaccine wont be until 2021 as i've predicted based on information prior, during and post events.
which sucks for those at the most risk to the effects of this illness whom should be considered the most to preserve their life.
I think flattening the curve is a reasonable strategy, with the provision that as more effective treatment regimes are discovered, and as more is invested into healthcare staff/equipment/logistics, countries should be able to loosen restrictions: their healthcare services will have developed better capacity for providing treatment so the relative burden caused by infection would be reduced.
Virus got my buddy's dad. Sad day.
BlackBellamy
04-22-2020, 05:56 AM
This is not a political topic.
Sure is! You can read back the previous 140 pages or just take my assurance.
I understand that you are worried about your job and money you're losing right now,
Roleplay out this scenario for me:
You are in charge (and also feel like you're in charge). You can introduce measures to prolong the lockdown which an expert tells you is going to save 100,000 lives. Another expert tells you that as a result, the unemployment rate will go up 12%. A third expert opines that for every 1% rise in unemployment, we can trace an additional 6000 suicides and the resulting inability to pay for medical procedures will result in another 14,000 people dying. The lack of money will also result in a worse diet, leading to a long-term rise mortality rate, which will have to be amortized over time, but whose exact numbers will be unknown until much later. All that unemployment is also going to fuel a crime rate increase which will kill a certain number of citizens and incarcerate others. A fourth expert tells you all those previous figures are subject to a 30% variance because those other guys are dumb.
Different classes of people will be affected by your decision differently. You decision will certainly be seen as political. Do you go for the best short-term outcome and destroy a country for decades or do you take the initial hit and power through the succeeding waves in order to have a better future for the next two generations? How many people do you kill, and who do you kill?
https://i.imgur.com/txgiuHs.jpg
Thrombosis
04-22-2020, 10:46 AM
Virus got my buddy's dad. Sad day.
Sorry to hear that pal. We lost a member of our congregation a few weeks ago, she was old and had other health issues, but still, made it more real :(
Gwaihir
04-22-2020, 11:13 AM
I understand you're not from america and I respect that. I never stated america in anything I said. Your dislike for trump has nothing to do with this topic.
The fact is people have recovered,.. Keeping healthy people at home is a dictatorship.
BUT BUT BUT BALER the public health responsibility we have!!!
I'm not saying we throw caution to the wind and not test temperatures/Simptom,. or deliver contaminated goods to elderly people.
But to keep healthy people at home is destroying the world economy, not just a single country.
They won't care, because its Orange Man Bad, and Mericans Bad, until the effects of famine and permanent dietary shifts settle in. Merica feeds the world, and Merica is currently undergoing fundamental erosion in the food production supply chain right now.
Stay tuned.
Gwaihir
04-22-2020, 11:20 AM
Starving to death vs getting antibodies from an illness.
You measure which matters more/
People are brainwashed into the coronavirus now.. I was causing a fuss when it wasn't even on the radar and NO ONE listened to me. But now that people are "educated" they think they know what's best... Making fun of hard working people is not fun nor a joke.
Literally every R-tard online right now is making fun of people who go out in public without a mask that want to work.
Watch the opening ceremony for the 2012 olympics in London, again.
Its opens with a fast forward shift from agrarian times to the beginning of the industrial revolution, then progresses into the technological era, which quickly manifests into empty stadium seats, filled with hospital beds, viral minions erupting from a tunnel beneath a 5G tower, and Boris Johnson confined to a hospital bed. It makes references to the second star on the right (peter pan wistfully sleeping life away in neverland) and holographic projection is utilized to turn the entire stadium into a holographic coronavirus.
Seems eerily foretelling of a plandemic. Of note, the character of Boris Johnson in the hospital bed, before a large team of nannys reprresenting the nanny state descending upon the children in their hospital beds predates the actual election of Boris Johnson by 3 years.
Election, indeed.
Long live the queen
Lojik
04-22-2020, 11:23 AM
I mean...tough times call for tough choices. One big problem with this virus is we just don't know a lot about it. We might get some studies that get published with some factoid that it lives on surfaces for 2 hours, then 8 hours, then 14 days, but again we're in the early stages of gathering knowledge on this disease. Most diseases we've had years to study them in the medical community. But people like to know things, so when a study comes out people in the media often parade it as fact, when we all know we can get biased studies out that say a lot of things. Some people can really abuse their "authority" and present themselves as somehow knowing more than other people.
Example, back in early March someone I know who is a nurse tried to tell me that covid was "nothing to worry about" and that I should really be concerned about measles coming back (measles is a scary as fuck disease though, we just happen to have like a vaccine for it.) "It (covid) can't live outside a human host for more than 2 hours." Right as she was telling me this I couldn't help but think that there's no way she could know this shit, the disease is too new for anyone to be certain of this crap, but her family and friends probably trust all that she says as fact because she's in the medical field.
As far as policy goes, this not knowing is really daunting. We can't even get politicians to agree on things when they know the consequences of the policies they're trying to enact. Most people probably agree that the virus is more contagious and less lethal than the reported case death rates, but the magnitudes of which are still unknown. Even so, what are we up to 45,000 dead (USA) even with all the social distancing, most schools canceled, almost no one flying, large gatherings canceled, people washing hands like crazy and wearing masks. We don't even know how long previous people who have been infected will have sufficient antibodies to fight off a future infection, so maybe herd immunity might not be a great strategy. Maybe this will be a new seasonal flu type thing trying to guess what the right strands are.
Back to Blackbellamy's previous post, it's kind of like that but even those scenarios proposed are only possible scenarios. 100,000 dead, but is that with or without social distancing? Without mass gatherings? The unemployment one, did they attempt to isolate if that was the case with what may possibly only be temporary unemployment? I mean the only 20/20 vision we have is looking back, and we'll probably get some decent control groups (like Brazil) to see how the responses to this virus fared versus others.
There's so many different variables here to work through it's tough, the biggest one is people. Some people look at this virus and think "well if there's no one telling me I can't do things it's probably fine." For example when the social distancing guidelines came out without the orders, many parks were crowded as all hell. But then those same people when mandated to stay home might think "fuck this bullshit you can't tell me what to do, this is America."
Honestly I'm no epidemiologist or any kind of expert, but my opinion on what was going to happen in the states was that 1) the spread wouldn't be quite as explosive as in Italy due to a younger age, people more spread out, not as many smokers, not as touchy feely culture, and we banned large gatherings about the same time as them so earlier in the spread relatively speaking. I do think it will be more prolonged though, due to it reaching places a little slower, minimal social safety net for people losing jobs, people not wanting to go to the hospital because of the exorbitant costs, doctors and nurses getting laid off, people over their heads in debt, and a good chunk of the population just won't want to listen to extended social distancing guidelines or orders.
bubur
04-22-2020, 12:09 PM
denial
anger
bargaining
depression
acceptance
in that order. fascinatingly ppl incl me are documenting the journey in this one thread
Sibelia1
04-22-2020, 03:30 PM
Virus got my buddy's dad. Sad day.
witnessed. sorry. :(
Jimjam
04-22-2020, 04:25 PM
The five stages of grief can actually occur in any order, and not every stage might occur in some individuals.
Jimjam
04-22-2020, 04:34 PM
Watch the opening ceremony for the 2012 olympics in London, again.
Its opens with a fast forward shift from agrarian times to the beginning of the industrial revolution, then progresses into the technological era, which quickly manifests into empty stadium seats, filled with hospital beds, viral minions erupting from a tunnel beneath a 5G tower, and Boris Johnson confined to a hospital bed. It makes references to the second star on the right (peter pan wistfully sleeping life away in neverland) and holographic projection is utilized to turn the entire stadium into a holographic coronavirus.
Seems eerily foretelling of a plandemic. Of note, the character of Boris Johnson in the hospital bed, before a large team of nannys reprresenting the nanny state descending upon the children in their hospital beds predates the actual election of Boris Johnson by 3 years.
Election, indeed.
Long live the queen
PM BJ was mayor of London at that point.
BlackBellamy
04-23-2020, 09:07 AM
1)
Not gonna lie you had me in the first half.
88% of intubated patients die. You go in feeling bad and the doctor comes by and says we're going to put you on a ventilator. So you say goodbye to everyone at that point right?
Because you know you have double the chance of scoring a pair of fine rubicite vambraces than making it out of the hospital and remember when you camped the Archon for 12 hours and wound up with six lizardscale belts? Yeah, you gonna die.
Remember it was all about the ventilators. We need them Cuomo cried as he rended his clothes and writhed in the dirt before Jehotrump. But ventilators don't save people, they kill people. If you get a thousand ventilators you're killing 880 people.
Now, if you never gave them a ventilator, would the death rate be higher? 98%? Or lower? We do not know because ventilator is the default. Could we be giving them non-invasive treatments? We don't know because ventilator is the default. For those not familiar, a ventilator helps people breathe by taking over the pumping function from the lungs. So if you have bad pneumonia your lungs are shot to shit and it's actually hard to take the air in cause you're exhausted. So ventilator good, right? But when you have covid, you don't have pneumonia. You have lung damage which prevents you from uptaking the oxygen, but you can breathe on your own. Your lungs aren't tired or exhausted, you just don't have enough surface area inside to absorb the oxygen. But this is all brand new and we needed to settle on a treatment so everyone was like intubate them intubate them.
I read a doctor is claiming you should treat covid patients like high-altitude sickness victims. (https://www.medscape.com/viewarticle/928156) Oxygen mask with high-concentration oxygen and you lie on your side. That's standard if you fuck up in the Himalayas. Not intubation.
Did we wind up killing thousands and thousands of people by giving them the wrong default treatment? In an emergency you don't have a control group. The best minds of our generation decided this was the way to go. Was it the right way? Some countries didn't lock down. Did they escape the second wave by front-loading the damage or are they prolonging the crisis? Their best minds decided what they thought was best for their countries. Are they right who knows?
First they told us millions were going to die. Then they told us to stay home. It's obvious at this point their initial prediction did not play out in the time frame suggested. However, did this happen because we stayed home or because those guys were just completely wrong. If both factors, how did each contribute to the current status?
It's maddening because everyone is a fucking expert and everyone is very passionate about their view, and meanwhile no one really knows anything for sure. I mean look at this thread; a million (I wish) people offering every point of view of what happened and how to deal with it and the only thing we all agree on is that Earth is flat. I mean not flat completely, it's a like concave disk with a giant ice wall around but anyway my point is that it's just total chaos out there.
Watch what happens afterwards. Everyone will be claiming their particular advice was the best and those other guys were mass-murderers. They're all gonna have tons of proof and lots of pointing fingers.
Gatorsmash
04-23-2020, 09:57 AM
Not gonna lie you had me in the first half.
88% of intubated patients die. You go in feeling bad and the doctor comes by and says we're going to put you on a ventilator. So you say goodbye to everyone at that point right?
Because you know you have double the chance of scoring a pair of fine rubicite vambraces than making it out of the hospital and remember when you camped the Archon for 12 hours and wound up with six lizardscale belts? Yeah, you gonna die.
Remember it was all about the ventilators. We need them Cuomo cried as he rended his clothes and writhed in the dirt before Jehotrump. But ventilators don't save people, they kill people. If you get a thousand ventilators you're killing 880 people.
Now, if you never gave them a ventilator, would the death rate be higher? 98%? Or lower? We do not know because ventilator is the default. Could we be giving them non-invasive treatments? We don't know because ventilator is the default. For those not familiar, a ventilator helps people breathe by taking over the pumping function from the lungs. So if you have bad pneumonia your lungs are shot to shit and it's actually hard to take the air in cause you're exhausted. So ventilator good, right? But when you have covid, you don't have pneumonia. You have lung damage which prevents you from uptaking the oxygen, but you can breathe on your own. Your lungs aren't tired or exhausted, you just don't have enough surface area inside to absorb the oxygen. But this is all brand new and we needed to settle on a treatment so everyone was like intubate them intubate them.
I read a doctor is claiming you should treat covid patients like high-altitude sickness victims. (https://www.medscape.com/viewarticle/928156) Oxygen mask with high-concentration oxygen and you lie on your side. That's standard if you fuck up in the Himalayas. Not intubation.
Did we wind up killing thousands and thousands of people by giving them the wrong default treatment? In an emergency you don't have a control group. The best minds of our generation decided this was the way to go. Was it the right way? Some countries didn't lock down. Did they escape the second wave by front-loading the damage or are they prolonging the crisis? Their best minds decided what they thought was best for their countries. Are they right who knows?
First they told us millions were going to die. Then they told us to stay home. It's obvious at this point their initial prediction did not play out in the time frame suggested. However, did this happen because we stayed home or because those guys were just completely wrong. If both factors, how did each contribute to the current status?
It's maddening because everyone is a fucking expert and everyone is very passionate about their view, and meanwhile no one really knows anything for sure. I mean look at this thread; a million (I wish) people offering every point of view of what happened and how to deal with it and the only thing we all agree on is that Earth is flat. I mean not flat completely, it's a like concave disk with a giant ice wall around but anyway my point is that it's just total chaos out there.
Watch what happens afterwards. Everyone will be claiming their particular advice was the best and those other guys were mass-murderers. They're all gonna have tons of proof and lots of pointing fingers.
If they dont get a ventilator when its finally required their death rate is 100% dumbass. That's why people were panicking. There is no alternative medicine if your body is physically blocked (from inflammation) from absorbing oxygen.
The extreme isolation measures is because they have no idea how to treat this virus. Why I'm so surprised that people like you can't seem to understand that medical science doesn't know everything I'm not sure
Kaveh
04-23-2020, 10:01 AM
Not gonna lie you had me in the first half.
88% of intubated patients die. You go in feeling bad and the doctor comes by and says we're going to put you on a ventilator. So you say goodbye to everyone at that point right?
Because you know you have double the chance of scoring a pair of fine rubicite vambraces than making it out of the hospital and remember when you camped the Archon for 12 hours and wound up with six lizardscale belts? Yeah, you gonna die.
Remember it was all about the ventilators. We need them Cuomo cried as he rended his clothes and writhed in the dirt before Jehotrump. But ventilators don't save people, they kill people. If you get a thousand ventilators you're killing 880 people.
Now, if you never gave them a ventilator, would the death rate be higher? 98%? Or lower? We do not know because ventilator is the default. Could we be giving them non-invasive treatments? We don't know because ventilator is the default. For those not familiar, a ventilator helps people breathe by taking over the pumping function from the lungs. So if you have bad pneumonia your lungs are shot to shit and it's actually hard to take the air in cause you're exhausted. So ventilator good, right? But when you have covid, you don't have pneumonia. You have lung damage which prevents you from uptaking the oxygen, but you can breathe on your own. Your lungs aren't tired or exhausted, you just don't have enough surface area inside to absorb the oxygen. But this is all brand new and we needed to settle on a treatment so everyone was like intubate them intubate them.
I read a doctor is claiming you should treat covid patients like high-altitude sickness victims. (https://www.medscape.com/viewarticle/928156) Oxygen mask with high-concentration oxygen and you lie on your side. That's standard if you fuck up in the Himalayas. Not intubation.
Did we wind up killing thousands and thousands of people by giving them the wrong default treatment? In an emergency you don't have a control group. The best minds of our generation decided this was the way to go. Was it the right way? Some countries didn't lock down. Did they escape the second wave by front-loading the damage or are they prolonging the crisis? Their best minds decided what they thought was best for their countries. Are they right who knows?
First they told us millions were going to die. Then they told us to stay home. It's obvious at this point their initial prediction did not play out in the time frame suggested. However, did this happen because we stayed home or because those guys were just completely wrong. If both factors, how did each contribute to the current status?
It's maddening because everyone is a fucking expert and everyone is very passionate about their view, and meanwhile no one really knows anything for sure. I mean look at this thread; a million (I wish) people offering every point of view of what happened and how to deal with it and the only thing we all agree on is that Earth is flat. I mean not flat completely, it's a like concave disk with a giant ice wall around but anyway my point is that it's just total chaos out there.
Watch what happens afterwards. Everyone will be claiming their particular advice was the best and those other guys were mass-murderers. They're all gonna have tons of proof and lots of pointing fingers.
Ventilators are a medical necessity when a person is in respiratory failure. It is correct to say that a lot of people die once they get to the point of needing ventilation, but barring intubation, your only option is BIPAP/CPAP, and that’s a hopeful solution because those options are less invasive and less effective (they are a step down from mechanical ventilation and generally aren’t indicated when you’re at the point of needing to be intubated, IE less invasive measures have already failed)
solleks
04-23-2020, 10:17 AM
U guys are retarded
BlackBellamy
04-23-2020, 10:18 AM
dumbass
No you're a dumbass! ;p
Maybe it wouldn't be finally required if you weren't a victim of a series of ignorant choices by the "experts" and were provided with a different treatment. Unfortunately other treatment choices were cast off during the discussions and you and I and the handsome Persian below you there have no idea if there were even considered or what was said or anything. For all we know a strong-willed personality browbeat people into some solution they wanted because that's what they do at his research hospital.
My point wasn't science knows everything so why can't they just fix this, my point was "...everyone is a fucking expert and everyone is very passionate about their view, and meanwhile no one really knows anything for sure." and my prediction was "Everyone will be claiming their particular advice was the best and those other guys were mass-murderers." which is already kinda happening now.
BlackBellamy
04-23-2020, 10:19 AM
retarded
No you're retarded!
solleks
04-23-2020, 10:25 AM
Member when gatorsmash said the world was over in 12 days. Pure retardation, you guys argue over nothing
solleks
04-23-2020, 10:28 AM
Hospitals all over the country are empty and losing money. This is theatre and u guys are covidiots
Hoppkins_Wytchfinder
04-23-2020, 11:21 AM
Hurray Solleks is back from another ban -_- wooooo
Lojik
04-23-2020, 11:44 AM
88% of intubated patients die. You go in feeling bad and the doctor comes by and says we're going to put you on a ventilator. So you say goodbye to everyone at that point right?
Maybe, maybe not? These are the statistics coming out of NY right? Each population is going to have different factors, it's kind of hard coming out with appropriate statistics for the whole of a nation just from NYC. I think I remember seeing something out of Norway where only 40% of people on ventilators died. Maybe this is due to them going on the ventilator earlier than people in the US or also due to the fact that in Norway people are way more healthy and not fat as shit. I've kept reading that one major big red flag is the lack of oxygen (like altitude sickness like you said) and for most people this might not be easy to spot, so they will put off going to the hospital until it's really late in the process. I know I don't have an oxygen meter or whatever is used, do you? When you have a huge spike in illnesses (which is what we're trying to avoid) I think a lot more of these cases are going to fall through the cracks, because the average person could very well think they're fine until their O2 levels are critically low. To be honest, again we really don't know. I don't think any study that has come out has had time to really be fully peer reviewed and I've seen plenty of skepticism around pretty much any report. Nothing coming out is gospel right now
It seems like right now people go in with an opinion, find a study they think suits their opinion, and then discount other studies as somehow flawed, and this happens on both sides of the political spectrum and the different views on how to handle the coronavirus. Even people who are trained pretty well to try and run studies or analyze studies to recognize and account for any bias they have will fall victim to it somewhat, and at this stage of the pandemic there are no shortage of people (almost all unqualified) willing to spout their opinion from the mountain tops. It sure seems like the WHO and the CDC have made their fair share of mistakes, however it seems like for the most part Dr. Fauci has refrained from making false assumptions about this virus. I think this gets him in trouble sometimes with the media because he doesn't have all the answers like people want.
I think people need to just be more skeptical of any information they're reading, and remember it very well might not be true. It may not be that people are purposely misrepresenting data or trying to manipulate you, they just might not know better or are working with incomplete data.
solleks
04-23-2020, 11:50 AM
Data isa creation of man that's why it's so retarded
JurisDictum
04-23-2020, 12:38 PM
You realize the reason we are doing all this had more to do with politics than actually saving lives. Lots of people die for this economy to function the way it does. Especially non-Americans. Our elites haven't rediscovered a commitment to every human life.
Rather,
Anyone with any kind of public office or even presence doesn't want to be the guy that let a few million die from a bad version of the flu. Also, if something isn't done, it could get so bad that there is some kind of political event. Not only does the market crash anyway at that point, leadership is distinctly less popular.
The thing is, people have been warning for a good 3-4 years that the economy is over-leveraged and any little thing will cause a crash worse than the Great Depression. For some reason, very wealthy people still often have a problem understanding that good market conditions aren't permanent.
Anyway, your a fool if you think the economy is gonna "bounce back" because of "pent up demand." That's not how it ever works. These things take time rev up and down.
All job gains since Great Recession -- gone (https://www.cnbc.com/2020/04/23/the-us-economy-has-now-erased-all-job-gains-since-the-great-recession.html)
Wealth of billionaires is up since crash....but i have a feeling that's not gonna last.
This is what they are worried about. Their best bet is to just let the economy stay closed and then blame the horrible numbers on the virus rather than how fragile the system was to any little hiccup.
Especially since everytime a country has tried opening up more they have seemed to regret it.
BlackBellamy
04-23-2020, 01:51 PM
Not every death is equal either. If you die from some flu in a modern hospital where you're just being pumped full of hope that everything is going to be alright and then if you die you're probably not even aware of it, that's one kind.
But then if you get pulled over by a fake Mountie who is upset the government closed his denture business because of the virus and then you get blasted in the face and then you crawl out of your car and the guy just shoots you two more times and walks away and you just lie there thinking wow this hurts and also I'm missing half my face, well that's another kind of death.
Data will tell you 24 people died. Data won't add 24 people to the covid toll, because obviously they died from bullets, but would have they died from bullets if it wasn't for the virus? No one will ever know the final toll.
Baler
04-23-2020, 02:48 PM
Since New York was the highest in the USA here is some interesting stats..
Long Island 16.7%
New York City 21.2%
westchester/rockland 11.7%
REST OF STATE 3.6%
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i6HNi9iHbTM
NYC is a shit hole and would never survive a real pandemic.
Gwaihir
04-23-2020, 03:12 PM
You realize the reason we are doing all this had more to do with politics than actually saving lives. Lots of people die for this economy to function the way it does. Especially non-Americans. Our elites haven't rediscovered a commitment to every human life.
Rather,
Anyone with any kind of public office or even presence doesn't want to be the guy that let a few million die from a bad version of the flu. Also, if something isn't done, it could get so bad that there is some kind of political event. Not only does the market crash anyway at that point, leadership is distinctly less popular.
The thing is, people have been warning for a good 3-4 years that the economy is over-leveraged and any little thing will cause a crash worse than the Great Depression. For some reason, very wealthy people still often have a problem understanding that good market conditions aren't permanent.
Anyway, your a fool if you think the economy is gonna "bounce back" because of "pent up demand." That's not how it ever works. These things take time rev up and down.
All job gains since Great Recession -- gone (https://www.cnbc.com/2020/04/23/the-us-economy-has-now-erased-all-job-gains-since-the-great-recession.html)
Wealth of billionaires is up since crash....but i have a feeling that's not gonna last.
This is what they are worried about. Their best bet is to just let the economy stay closed and then blame the horrible numbers on the virus rather than how fragile the system was to any little hiccup.
Especially since everytime a country has tried opening up more they have seemed to regret it.
It's an intentional dismantling of the economy to give you guys the socialism you've been clammoring for for the past several years.
The coronavirus outbreak was intentional, they even did a mock play of the outbreak in the 2012 London Olympics opening ceremony.
Congratulations, nanny state incoming. Make sure you take their vaccination and biochip ASAP like a good little sheep.
Magikarp
04-23-2020, 03:39 PM
Sometimes I wonder what it's like to live in a headspace where everything is planned a decade in advance and executed without flaw globally by competent and well-coordinated shadowmen. That'd be nicer than just people making the same terrible mistakes over and over again
I read once that was the original plot of everquest but they scrapped it. Now the shadowmen just hang out in ec and lavastorm kicking rocks
Lojik
04-23-2020, 04:36 PM
Sometimes I wonder what it's like to live in a headspace where everything is planned a decade in advance and executed without flaw globally by competent and well-coordinated shadowmen. That'd be nicer than just people making the same terrible mistakes over and over again
I read once that was the original plot of everquest but they scrapped it. Now the shadowmen just hang out in ec and lavastorm kicking rocks
Notice they don't say anything about reptiles getting coronavirus...just humans, bats, cats, pangolins, etc. But not lizards. Coincidence? Unlikely.
solleks
04-23-2020, 04:37 PM
Don't pretend like you've got it all figured out space baller
solleks
04-23-2020, 04:41 PM
If u think eclipses are an accident you have no credibility
Gwaihir
04-23-2020, 04:56 PM
Sometimes I wonder what it's like to live in a headspace where everything is planned a decade in advance and executed without flaw globally by competent and well-coordinated shadowmen. That'd be nicer than just people making the same terrible mistakes over and over again
I read once that was the original plot of everquest but they scrapped it. Now the shadowmen just hang out in ec and lavastorm kicking rocks
Executed without flaw? no.
In the recent hacking into emails at the institute of virology in Wuhan, and the WHO, it was revealed that they originally intended to splice the coronavirus with ebola to acheive a much higher death rate, but that proved non-transmittable.
In April 2019 after testing coronavirus spliced with HIV they found a pathogen with a very very high transmittability rate, but the mortality was much lower than they had hoped for.
They had to settle for the latter discovery, as time was running short. Which is why we have such an underwhelming death toll with this whole virus thing, with a statistically verifiable mark-ed decrease in the average death toll of pre-extant fatal illnesses being attributed erroneously to coronavirus, and loose definitions of how our medical staff are to ascribe the cause of death as this fairly tame alternative spreads through the population. This relation to HIV is also why the antibody count in those recovering from the virus is much lower than normally witnessed when one recovers from other forms of coronavirus conventionally umbrella'd under the term "the common cold".
In an effort to control the narrative, the media industry then released a stream of articles over the past few days denoting the occurence of the hack, and attributing the antagonists of the hacks as Neo-Nazis, and other miscellaneous "online terrorists" and "extremists" as a means of conducting an ad-hominem attack to discredit the discoveries unearthed in said activities, as evidenced here:
https://www.washingtonpost.com/technology/2020/04/21/nearly-25000-email-addresses-passwords-allegedly-nih-who-gates-foundation-are-dumped-online/
and here:
https://www.businessinsider.com/neo-nazis-alleged-email-addresses-who-gates-foundation-nih-leak-2020-4
Gwaihir
04-23-2020, 05:09 PM
Likewise, on Good Friday, when Microsoft decided to produce an article featuring known satanist, and "spirit cooker" for the elite; marina abramovic, this sparked outrage in which they were forced to rescind the article.
Now the media machine is pumping out article after article casting Marina as the victim of a cruel bunch of bullies who just don't understand her "art".
https://news.artnet.com/art-world/art-industry-news-april-22-2020-1841583
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/04/21/arts/design/marina-abramovic-satanist-conspiracy-theory.html
https://observer.com/2020/04/marina-abramovic-breaks-silence-satanist-conspiracy-theories/
https://www.artnews.com/art-news/news/marina-abramovic-satanism-didddy-kahlil-joseph-morning-links-1202684511/
https://www.dazeddigital.com/art-photography/article/48916/1/marina-abramovic-addresses-being-accused-of-satanism-conspiracy-theory-infowars
https://news.artnet.com/opinion/marina-abramovic-new-world-order-explainer-1838223
"Art" which includes such (co)incidences as hosting a party with Ryan Singleton, a male model, being on display and the last known social event he was pictured at, several days before his body was discovered in the Mojave Desert mostly decayed, missing his eyes, lungs, heart, liver and kidneys.
https://www.wusa9.com/article/news/nation-world/mother-of-model-whose-body-was-found-without-organs-still-seeks-answers/507-625177206
https://twitter.com/dmills3710/status/1160626585776676865?lang=cs
Baler
04-23-2020, 05:19 PM
thoughts and prayers go out to those effected by covid
solleks
04-23-2020, 05:51 PM
Time to become essential
BlackBellamy
04-23-2020, 06:53 PM
NYC is a shit hole
Sure but if you want to see sentient beings perform on a stage there is nowhere in the galaxy you can go but New York if you want the best. If that's important to you on Grobuklon IV or whatever. Just sayin. I mean yeah there's definitely more shit per capita and this city it totally vulnerable to literally anything but for example the hookers, some people say Vegas or go to Russia but the best Russian girls are here already. Also, there's like three places in the world you can say you got shot in and build up some serious cred and we have two of them.
Bigsham
04-23-2020, 08:24 PM
those links contain nothing useful
Trump suggests injecting disinfectant to treat coronavirus and touts power of sunlight to beat disease (https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/trump-coronavirus-inject-disinfectant-bleach-treatment-sunlight-a9481291.html?utm_source=reddit.com)
WTF???? x 5 ²
Jimjam
04-24-2020, 04:25 AM
A little bit of knowledge goes a long way.
Sunlight is a disinfectant, so it is understandable how he might come to that conclusion.
Wrongly collaborating pieces of information- high IQ problems.
I dont know if you're being serious or sarcastic, buts funny both ways :D
BlackBellamy
04-24-2020, 10:52 AM
those links contain nothing useful
Au contraire!
Delving into the world of "ART" I was able to glean the following:
Among the artworks on display is a text piece inspired by Barbara Kruger’s “Untitled”, which, instead of “your body is a battleground”, amusingly reads, “your turnips are a battleground”..
and
career-defining performance piece “The Artist Is Present”, where Khor’s avatar (dressed as Abramović) sat for an hour at a table across from an empty chair, inviting fellow users to join her.
Imagine making art by taking someone's art and changing the word "body" to "turnips". Imagine having a career, and everyone considering your "career-defining" moment to be where you sat down at an empty table for an hour.
What the fuck am doing with my life? They could be paying me to whitewash black people! That's like two goals in one!
https://imgur.com/yNaEOoa.jpg
magnetaress
04-24-2020, 10:56 AM
Au contraire!
Delving into the world of "ART" I was able to glean the following:
and
Imagine making art by taking someone's art and changing the word "body" to "turnips". Imagine having a career, and everyone considering your "career-defining" moment to be where you sat down at an empty table for an hour.
What the fuck am doing with my life? They could be paying me to whitewash black people! That's like two goals in one!
https://imgur.com/yNaEOoa.jpg
The real art is on your left, and its controlled and produced by the illuminati. And its more of a parody, cynical commentary. Tragedy. XD
That black guy is being cute AF tho.
solleks
04-24-2020, 11:10 AM
https://i.imgur.com/07EPF76.gif
BlackBellamy
04-24-2020, 11:41 AM
France testing whether nicotine could prevent coronavirus (https://www.france24.com/en/20200423-france-testing-whether-nicotine-could-prevent-coronavirus-1)
So smoking damages your lungs but nicotine helps you become The Wolverine.
France has prohibited the sale of more than one month's supply of nicotine products to any one person to prevent a run on the new life-saving cigarette products. Since 110% of all French people smoke this will now mean they can take back Lorraine and the rest of the Sudetenland from the tired coughing Germans with no effort.
Vive le Emperour!
Gwaihir
04-24-2020, 01:35 PM
The real art is on your left, and its controlled and produced by the illuminati. And its more of a parody, cynical commentary. Tragedy. XD
That black guy is being cute AF tho.
Yeah, you may have to wait for his reincarnation to meet him though. They found his body rotting i the Mojave desert missing its eyes lungs heart liver and kidneys a few days later.
Zeboim
04-24-2020, 02:30 PM
Friendly reminder that no matter what the president says, dont inject bleach into your veins.
Pretzelle
04-24-2020, 02:49 PM
Friendly reminder that no matter what the president says, dont inject bleach into your veins.
drink it instead ;)
Sibelia1
04-24-2020, 03:08 PM
Au contraire!
Delving into the world of "ART" I was able to glean the following:
and
Imagine making art by taking someone's art and changing the word "body" to "turnips". Imagine having a career, and everyone considering your "career-defining" moment to be where you sat down at an empty table for an hour.
What the fuck am doing with my life? They could be paying me to whitewash black people! That's like two goals in one!
https://imgur.com/yNaEOoa.jpg
i went to a play in 2018 where a guy in bondage got lifted into the air and pissed himself, for real, in front of us. it was an anti putin thing, which I suppose was only showing in Seattle because it sort of inflamed Russiagate. But ya the guy was like, repercenting the "Russian People", tied up by Putin and so upset that they pee them self all over the stage .....it's DARK in the modern art hole, but hey, at least its for a good cause :)
magnetaress
04-24-2020, 03:20 PM
He is probably real boring 1 on 1. He probably just sits there and stares at you waiting for cuddles and won't initiate anything on his own.
Baler
04-24-2020, 04:22 PM
Corona in the fall, top kek.
solleks
04-24-2020, 05:14 PM
Got shown article headline, asteroid appears to be wearing mask. Laughed. Still not done?
Gwaihir
04-24-2020, 07:20 PM
Got shown article headline, asteroid appears to be wearing mask. Laughed. Still not done?
Yeah i saw that retarded article pop up when I was reading about the discovery of the Tele(vision-o)sauroid Machimo(fukkin)saurus Rex the other day.
http://www.bbc.com/earth/story/20160114-found-an-ancient-crocodile-as-long-as-a-bus
Fukkin machimosaurus bro!
This is the state of "Science" these days. How stupid do they think you guys are?
Swish
04-24-2020, 07:23 PM
i went to a play in 2018 where a guy in bondage got lifted into the air and pissed himself, for real, in front of us. it was an anti putin thing, which I suppose was only showing in Seattle because it sort of inflamed Russiagate. But ya the guy was like, repercenting the "Russian People", tied up by Putin and so upset that they pee them self all over the stage .....it's DARK in the modern art hole, but hey, at least its for a good cause :)
If you had the power to change Russia, would you make it more American?
Baler
04-24-2020, 07:42 PM
Got shown article headline, asteroid appears to be wearing mask. Laughed. Still not done?
Asteroid flying past Earth looks like it’s wearing a coronavirus face mask (https://techupdatess.com/asteroid-flying-past-earth-looks-like-its-wearing-a-coronavirus-face-mask-the-mercury-news/)
hah, nice one :)
https://i.imgur.com/oInwAIl.jpg
Woke Locc
04-24-2020, 11:47 PM
If you had the power to change Russia, would you make it more American?
We already tried that. They elected a vodka addict.
Russia is better off as an autocracy.
Gatorsmash
04-25-2020, 01:21 PM
We already tried that. They elected a vodka addict.
Russia is better off as an autocracy.
lol you get killed in your shit country for just mentioning Putin did something wrong.
magnetaress
04-25-2020, 01:24 PM
We already tried that. They elected a vodka addict.
Russia is better off as an autocracy.
lol you get killed in your shit country for just mentioning Putin did something wrong.
learn a lil more about pokesan every day, you aren't fooling anyone with ur military grade stolen encryption thru irridium satalites
i hope u dont get assasinated anytime soon tho cuz i think you are the fucking most intelligent being on the planet, you should be supreme ruler
Kaveh
04-25-2020, 05:51 PM
If you had the power to change Russia, would you make it more American?
Who gives a shit about Russia?
magnetaress
04-25-2020, 05:56 PM
Who gives a shit about Russia?
Venezuela? Perhaps?
Sibelia1
04-25-2020, 08:23 PM
If you had the power to change Russia, would you make it more American?
Swishusama, RUssia has its own cherished institutions (strongman rule).
learn a lil more about pokesan every day, you aren't fooling anyone with ur military grade stolen encryption thru irridium satalites
i hope u dont get assasinated anytime soon tho cuz i think you are the fucking most intelligent being on the planet, you should be supreme ruler
makes me SO MAD when u overpraise our rat doggie!
magnetaress
04-25-2020, 08:48 PM
Swishusama, RUssia has its own cherished institutions (strongman rule).
makes me SO MAD when u overpraise our rat doggie!
HI!
Daloon
04-26-2020, 01:21 AM
I ended my quarantine today. Went golfing today in California, they opened up last week. I notice there are 3x more cars on the roads than just 1-2 weeks prior.
After the CDC said that facemasks don't help people, I stopped listening, but I did stay inside.
Back to freedom
And nurses making about 5000 tiktok videos of their empty hospitals did great for PR, thanks guys.
Sibelia1
04-26-2020, 01:34 AM
HI!
*cums*
Gwaihir
04-26-2020, 01:35 PM
Just a little update from our resident health experts.
Listen to how hard the media shills try to paint him into a political corner. Very telling.
https://youtu.be/xfLVxx_lBLU
magnetaress
04-26-2020, 02:00 PM
Just a little update from our resident health experts.
Listen to how hard the media shills try to paint him into a political corner. Very telling.
https://youtu.be/xfLVxx_lBLU
TLDROW i skipped through and only watched a 1:30 second clip of that diatribe however
I just vaccinated half my family and the va lol. so u can thank me later for being a silent shedder even tho i passed the 'asymptomatic' stage
anyway i agree that its impossible to shut down the economy without some form of stupid communism, not going to work, so just go out there and live ur lives, be healthy, eat plenty fava beans, enjoy some soy milk, and do some planks
Ennewi
04-26-2020, 04:33 PM
Myth 1. Contact Tracing. First off, this virus can spread in the asymptomatic phase and you can't start contact tracing until some presents with the disease, so its usefulness is blunted from the beginning. Second, our public health system did not have enough trained personnel to do all the contact tracing work for other diseases before coronavirus--where are we getting the actual people trained to do contact tracing?
Myth 2. Antibody testing. So the idea is we just give people an antibody test and if they are positive than they are immune and safe to be moving about. Sounds great, right? Except we don't have a good idea of what these tests mean with regards to immunity. First problem, false positives. Many of these tests cross react with antibodies raised by your body against non-COVID19 coronaviruses that you have been exposed to in your life. Second problem, without a vaccinated control group that we know is immune, we don't know where to set the threshold of the test to claim immunity and this varies for every disease. We have no idea what a positive on these tests actually means in terms of immunity.
Myth 3. Herd immunity. Viruses evolve. Every person that gets infected is an experiment for the virus. It makes billions of copies of itself and everyone has a chance to be a new mutant that will evade any herd immunity that has been acquired and will start spreading freely again. If we let this virus just burn through our country, everything we know about viral evolution tells us that it will evolve variants that can reinfect those that are currently immune. This is one of the reasons for keeping the global case count low, until a vaccine can be developed. But once a few major variants develop, than it is likely to mean a new permanent human disease and a very different and worse problem for the world.
Myth 4. Treatments. Viruses are not alive and that makes them very hard to "kill". The simplest bacteria that we have discovered has to do nearly 200 biochemical and biophysical reactions to stay alive. Many of those reactions can be targeted specifically (without hurting our cells) with drugs to kill the bacteria and that is why we have so many effective antibiotics. Do you know how many biochemical and biophysical reactions a virus needs to do in the environment? Zero. That is why it is not alive. It is inert. Understand that drugs to treat this disease will only reduce symptoms. That may save lives, but people will still be in hospitals and on ventilators. The likelihood of a magic cure is very remote. Cures for most viruses don't exist, vaccines however do, which must be taken as a preventative measure. We are really good at making those and we will, it just takes time.
The current thinking within the scientific community (that I'm hearing from at least) is that, by the end of June, more than a few metropolitan areas in the U.S. will be at NYC levels during its peak. Atlanta may be one of them, based on how the general population is responding.
My fellow Watkinsville citizens:
These have been uncertain times, but I believe it is time to turn off the television and all the distractions in the media and get back to the basics.
Our parents and grandparents worked thru tougher times than these: World War II, the Great Depression. Even the Great Recession challenged us over a decade ago beyond our comfortable existence.
I have the utmost faith in the creativity, ingenuity, and perseverance of the citizens of this city to return to work safely and effectively to serve others and provide for their families.
Fearless fire fighters and police officers ran into burning buildings on Sept. 11, 2001.
Soldiers walked onto the battlefield with bombs flying overhead during multiple wars to protect our freedoms.
It's now time for us to emerge from our homes and utilize smart, common-sense safe distance practices and resume our lives.
It is imperative for our emotional, spiritual, physical, and economic health.
I encourage you to get outdoors and exercise. Go to work. Earn a living. Assemble to worship. And be grateful for every day we have.
Because life is a gift.
Let's not waste it continuing to sit at home, looking at four walls.
As those brave Americans said on Flight 91 over Pennsylvania on Sept. 11, 2001, LETS ROLL!
Your Mayor,
Bob Smith
Kaveh
04-26-2020, 05:16 PM
Why is the virus only really affecting white countries? Really makes u think (that Iran must be white too) :)
Sibelia1
04-26-2020, 05:53 PM
Why is the virus only really affecting white countries? Really makes u think (that Iran must be white too) :)
cute :P
It's a good question though. I have heard rumors that malarial-resistant populations are resistant to flu manchu - for instance there are some African places with zero cases - and I don't follow why that would protect from corona. I don't know much about malarial resistance factors, so stop me early if u want lol.
Now, the immune system is a neat engine which seeks to recognize, and then remember, highly-specific patterns on the surfaces of enemy biomaterial. It does literally act by recognizing patterns of atoms & molecules on the surface of things it decides deserve death, and creating little chemical "keys" which will stick right to the dang surface of brother virus, perfectly contoured to fit his nose with not one atom amiss. Then it straps napalm to the keys and throws them into your system anytime the registered pattern is detected. So if it is an immune response protecting these jungle folk, then we would expect to see structures from Malaria present on Flu Manchu. Which makes me really paranoid about a spliced virus, okay:
The sort of virus we are capable of making in a lab is a splicing together of multiple organisms' genetic code. We can pretty freely play with adding to the genomes of things; our limitation is that we cannot actually write original proteins yet because we haven't learnt predictively how to fold them. So, we have the level editor, not the dev kit, on viruses.* It should actually be pretty simple to check the published COVID19 genome against genomes of some popular diseases, maybe see if we have some Malarial proteins' codons lifted and spliced into some other identifiable highly-contagious viral package's payload.
[The example frankenstein lab virus, to clarify above paragraph^, is something like -- take the common cold's packaging proteins, but put in there whatever proteins it is that totally JACK you in smallpox. Now u have a smallpox virus with a new route of infection like a cold's. (Sort of, i'm just saying.)]
Not sure if anyone has conducted this simple analysis just yet on the genome. But like actually, if this were an accidental bioweapon leak, a person ought to could see that the virus was of highly suspect origin by this method pretty easily, I think. I don't think the Chinese can author original proteins.
*gnarly huh
magnetaress
04-26-2020, 06:22 PM
Viruses probably more dangerous than nukes with some crazy person thinking they can design and control them without collateral damage and long term pollution.. It's like thinking we could get away with it...
Yes I wholeheartedly believe this one was engineered. My keen chemically enhanced intuition feels so.
Woke Locc
04-26-2020, 06:25 PM
cute :P
It's a good question though. I have heard rumors that malarial-resistant populations are resistant to flu manchu - for instance there are some African places with zero cases - and I don't follow why that would protect from corona. I don't know much about malarial resistance factors, so stop me early if u want lol.
Now, the immune system is a neat engine which seeks to recognize, and then remember, highly-specific patterns on the surfaces of enemy biomaterial. It does literally act by recognizing patterns of atoms & molecules on the surface of things it decides deserve death, and creating little chemical "keys" which will stick right to the dang surface of brother virus, perfectly contoured to fit his nose with not one atom amiss. Then it straps napalm to the keys and throws them into your system anytime the registered pattern is detected. So if it is an immune response protecting these jungle folk, then we would expect to see structures from Malaria present on Flu Manchu. Which makes me really paranoid about a spliced virus, okay:
The sort of virus we are capable of making in a lab is a splicing together of multiple organisms' genetic code. We can pretty freely play with adding to the genomes of things; our limitation is that we cannot actually write original proteins yet because we haven't learnt predictively how to fold them. So, we have the level editor, not the dev kit, on viruses.* It should actually be pretty simple to check the published COVID19 genome against genomes of some popular diseases, maybe see if we have some Malarial proteins' codons lifted and spliced into some other identifiable highly-contagious viral package's payload.
[The example frankenstein lab virus, to clarify above paragraph^, is something like -- take the common cold's packaging proteins, but put in there whatever proteins it is that totally JACK you in smallpox. Now u have a smallpox virus with a new route of infection like a cold's. (Sort of, i'm just saying.)]
Not sure if anyone has conducted this simple analysis just yet on the genome. But like actually, if this were an accidental bioweapon leak, a person ought to could see that the virus was of highly suspect origin by this method pretty easily, I think. I don't think the Chinese can author original proteins.
*gnarly huh
lol
Sibelia1
04-26-2020, 06:26 PM
lol
shut up i took a drug
magnetaress
04-26-2020, 06:31 PM
This is basically the viral work that has been done using CRISPR to target cancers. Someone aimed it at a certain phenom of human sub populations with specific environmental factors that cause people to express specific characteristics. Gg.
You don't know how genetic engineering works sibella doll. Ps don't ignore me.
Gwaihir
04-26-2020, 06:51 PM
You can identify an authoritarian shill by their emphasis of the concepts of "safety" and "containment".
Nationwide, testing indicates a 12% exposure rate with a population expanded mortality rate of less than 0.1%.
Ennewi
04-26-2020, 09:23 PM
You can identify an authoritarian shill by their emphasis of the concepts of "safety" and "containment".
Nationwide, testing indicates a 12% exposure rate with a population expanded mortality rate of less than 0.1%.
Except we're not testing thoroughly/widely enough in the U.S. So even if it is 12%, that's of what testing has done. Try again, next time with more passive aggressive insults?
solleks
04-26-2020, 09:46 PM
viruses and nukes, both not real
solleks
04-26-2020, 09:47 PM
Except we're not testing thoroughly/widely enough in the U.S. So even if it is 12%, that's of what testing has done. Try again, next time with more passive aggressive insults?
the testing is a joke. its a complete joke
Sibelia1
04-26-2020, 11:03 PM
You don't know how genetic engineering works sibella doll. Ps don't ignore me.
ur wrong :) i havent checked in since pre-crispr though lmao :eek: ...
crispr lets u splice stuff in and out ez, but it doesn't mean we know how to synthesize scratch proteins. looking fer suspect codon overlap in the grand viral database is a really cool idea.
I am pretty sure I am right~!
Kaveh
04-26-2020, 11:10 PM
viruses and nukes, both not real
Nukes aren’t real? What about nuclear power plants ?
Kaveh
04-26-2020, 11:14 PM
Except we're not testing thoroughly/widely enough in the U.S. So even if it is 12%, that's of what testing has done. Try again, next time with more passive aggressive insults?
Spending $10 trillion and having 30% unemployment is also very bad. There’s no good answer to this, give your political opponents a break. Plagues cause things like the Crisis of the Third Century. There isn’t a “solution” to this, so to speak. I personally favor the lockdowns and science, but “contact tracing” is a privacy violation of biblical proportion and Facebook, Apple, and google should never be entrusted with such power
China delenda est
solleks
04-26-2020, 11:37 PM
Nukes aren’t real? What about nuclear power plants ?
Nuclear bombs not real. Nuclear power plants real. Nuclear bombs does not equal nuclear power plants.
Woke Locc
04-27-2020, 12:07 AM
Nuclear bombs not real. Nuclear power plants real. Nuclear bombs does not equal nuclear power plants.
No homo
Baler
04-27-2020, 01:58 AM
No homo
my nuke is way bigger than your nuke.
no homo
Hoppkins_Wytchfinder
04-27-2020, 04:11 AM
Nuclear bombs not real. Nuclear power plants real. Nuclear bombs does not equal nuclear power plants.
Tell that to the people at Bikini (or the US navy guys on the ships nearby who were told to sit on the decks of the ships with hands over their faces)
Sibelia1
04-27-2020, 05:15 AM
This is basically the viral work that has been done using CRISPR to target cancers. Someone aimed it at a certain phenom of human sub populations with specific environmental factors that cause people to express specific characteristics. Gg.
You don't know how genetic engineering works sibella doll. Ps don't ignore me.
oh i didnt understand this earlier. No, this virus is not crispr related u gooba. :P you might use crispr techniques to develop a virus conveniently, i guess..? but this is demonstrably not crispr ms luddite, it is a coronavirus. it is IMPORTANT not to stick head in sand, so you have some objective grounding, miss.
and i dug into it a lil bit. evidently, uses a standard coronavirus spike protein for stabbling into cells and the envelope looks normal for a coronavirus. so sequences in the remainder covid sequence, maybe someone who has working limbs can dig? See if there is a long passage of covid "viral" genome found already in malaria coding for wet lung, or other beloved but unrelated deadly diseases?? is there like a particularly deleterious protein in malaria I could search?
solleks
04-27-2020, 07:16 AM
Too much tv
Jimjam
04-27-2020, 07:17 AM
Too much tv
Nice pun, but queerphobic.
Woke Locc
04-27-2020, 09:24 AM
oh i didnt understand this earlier. No, this virus is not crispr related u gooba. :P you might use crispr techniques to develop a virus conveniently, i guess..? but this is demonstrably not crispr ms luddite, it is a coronavirus. it is IMPORTANT not to stick head in sand, so you have some objective grounding, miss.
and i dug into it a lil bit. evidently, uses a standard coronavirus spike protein for stabbling into cells and the envelope looks normal for a coronavirus. so sequences in the remainder covid sequence, maybe someone who has working limbs can dig? See if there is a long passage of covid "viral" genome found already in malaria coding for wet lung, or other beloved but unrelated deadly diseases?? is there like a particularly deleterious protein in malaria I could search?
You're very pretty :)
magnetaress
04-27-2020, 10:17 AM
Spending $10 trillion and having 30% unemployment is also very bad. There’s no good answer to this, give your political opponents a break. Plagues cause things like the Crisis of the Third Century. There isn’t a “solution” to this, so to speak. I personally favor the lockdowns and science, but “contact tracing” is a privacy violation of biblical proportion and Facebook, Apple, and google should never be entrusted with such power
China delenda est
basically i sorta think those that released this into the wild were like 'if we go down this road, this is just a bonus, it will further erode the freedoms in the way of our progress'
seek bible camp, or whatever it is u believe in Kaveh (I think u r someone i like who isn't exactly christian in the strictest sense, but has a more original eastern flair to their beliefs).
/pras
oh i didnt understand this earlier. No, this virus is not crispr related u gooba. :P you might use crispr techniques to develop a virus conveniently, i guess..? but this is demonstrably not crispr ms luddite, it is a coronavirus. it is IMPORTANT not to stick head in sand, so you have some objective grounding, miss.
and i dug into it a lil bit. evidently, uses a standard coronavirus spike protein for stabbling into cells and the envelope looks normal for a coronavirus. so sequences in the remainder covid sequence, maybe someone who has working limbs can dig? See if there is a long passage of covid "viral" genome found already in malaria coding for wet lung, or other beloved but unrelated deadly diseases?? is there like a particularly deleterious protein in malaria I could search?
you're right i have zero idea what all the major universities and 3rd world countries have access to in order to basically industrialize and manufacture virus's designed to target specific organisms... and make a killing $$$ on treating specific cancers that "rich" *but not really lol (god bless their hearts) people get (after drinking out of plastic bottles for 20yrs) with 'experimental' medicine.... you do know that many cancers are caused by viral agents as well? virii have been the fun thing to study since people realized how striaghtforward they were and easy to manipulate vs a complex bacterium or higher organism, "scientists" love starting at the fundamental building blocks and working their way towards complexity via experimentation... the implications are pretty profound if you can see what I mean here...
LOL
anyway - surprisingly why has no one made a protein that can infuse/bind with the spike, pretend to be a cell wall.. on the virus and allow the little buggers to be safely chelated from our bods? I bet if the lil virus's pooped out their guts into our bloodstream it would be harmlessly broken down and not cause any replication, so u don't even need to do anything other then stimulate the virus to poop itself not into a cell
probably because no one has thought about using such a straightforward approach, maybe because its cheap and laughably easy but not really pharmacologically patentable??
IDK, I believe I am immune to the first strain now and I am pretty sure my healthy godly mind and body will not be destroyed by subsequent strains, god has plans for me and it's not to die of COVID 19.1a.2bc.fx84
that's not to argue the rest of the world won't burn, it very well may, i have no control over that and I leave it in gods blessed hands to help the human species *cough* choose the path to it's destiny...
all the people that aren't super duper uhmmm northern european are just spreading basic alcohol all over everything they were doin this to protect me when i was in their tender care, god love em, maybe thats why these more equatorial countries are being spared? it could be too that sunlight and vitamin C are just big factors in not dying from it. and its that simple....
*steps outside into my equatorial tropics for a breath of fresh air and pops a jalapeno to chase with some tequila*
Kaveh
04-27-2020, 11:22 AM
Didn’t read
magnetaress
04-27-2020, 11:23 AM
Didn’t read
no homo would have been sufficient m8 :o
solleks
04-27-2020, 11:44 AM
He's not remotely Christian, he's typed about raping his daughter in law many times
Gwaihir
04-27-2020, 11:45 AM
Except we're not testing thoroughly/widely enough in the U.S. So even if it is 12%, that's of what testing has done. Try again, next time with more passive aggressive insults?
You're fucking retarded. With several hundred thousand tests this is what Science calls a representative sampling of the entire population.
We can assume with a test case of SEVERAL HUNDRED THOUSAND, that this is representative of the entire population. Meaning, if 12 % of the US has been infected that approximately 45.6 million people in the US alone have already contracted COVID-19 with approximately 50,000 deaths.
45.6million/55,548 deaths as of right now = a mortality rate of 0.12181% or just about 1/8th of 1% chance of death.
This is the math
This is the science
Quit parroting your corporate overlords, the facts are the facts dipshit.
Lojik
04-27-2020, 12:47 PM
You're fucking retarded. With several hundred thousand tests this is what Science calls a representative sampling of the entire population.
We can assume with a test case of SEVERAL HUNDRED THOUSAND, that this is representative of the entire population. Meaning, if 12 % of the US has been infected that approximately 45.6 million people in the US alone have already contracted COVID-19 with approximately 50,000 deaths.
45.6million/55,548 deaths as of right now = a mortality rate of 0.12181% or just about 1/8th of 1% chance of death.
This is the math
This is the science
Quit parroting your corporate overlords, the facts are the facts dipshit.
We can't assume anything right now because studies make their way into the media before they're peer reviewed. Some might be only 89% accurate and producing false positives, I'm not sure which study you're referencing but I know the Stanford one has come under scrutiny. The NYC study seemed to indicate an IFR between .2 and. 8 percent I think, still pretty damn high. There are problems with study too especially with selection bias.
If you want to be scientific about this then be skeptical of any information coming out right now, not just ones that align with preconceived notions.
We can't assume anything right now because studies make their way into the media before they're peer reviewed. Some might be only 89% accurate and producing false positives, I'm not sure which study you're referencing but I know the Stanford one has come under scrutiny. The NYC study seemed to indicate an IFR between .2 and. 8 percent I think, still pretty damn high. There are problems with study too especially with selection bias.
If you want to be scientific about this then be skeptical of any information coming out right now, not just ones that align with preconceived notions.
89% accuracy or 'sensitivity' in tests like these is very common and some level of false positive results are inherent in all clinical tests. For example, those flu swabs you get when you go to the doctor have a similar level of sensitivity. They are still useful.
Sibelia1
04-27-2020, 02:15 PM
basically i sorta think those that released this into the wild were like 'if we go down this road, this is just a bonus, it will further erode the freedoms in the way of our progress'
seek bible camp, or whatever it is u believe in Kaveh (I think u r someone i like who isn't exactly christian in the strictest sense, but has a more original eastern flair to their beliefs).
/pras
you're right i have zero idea what all the major universities and 3rd world countries have access to in order to basically industrialize and manufacture virus's designed to target specific organisms... and make a killing $$$ on treating specific cancers that "rich" *but not really lol (god bless their hearts) people get (after drinking out of plastic bottles for 20yrs) with 'experimental' medicine.... you do know that many cancers are caused by viral agents as well? virii have been the fun thing to study since people realized how striaghtforward they were and easy to manipulate vs a complex bacterium or higher organism, "scientists" love starting at the fundamental building blocks and working their way towards complexity via experimentation... the implications are pretty profound if you can see what I mean here...
LOL
anyway - surprisingly why has no one made a protein that can infuse/bind with the spike, pretend to be a cell wall.. on the virus and allow the little buggers to be safely chelated from our bods? I bet if the lil virus's pooped out their guts into our bloodstream it would be harmlessly broken down and not cause any replication, so u don't even need to do anything other then stimulate the virus to poop itself not into a cell
probably because no one has thought about using such a straightforward approach, maybe because its cheap and laughably easy but not really pharmacologically patentable??
IDK, I believe I am immune to the first strain now and I am pretty sure my healthy godly mind and body will not be destroyed by subsequent strains, god has plans for me and it's not to die of COVID 19.1a.2bc.fx84
that's not to argue the rest of the world won't burn, it very well may, i have no control over that and I leave it in gods blessed hands to help the human species *cough* choose the path to it's destiny...
all the people that aren't super duper uhmmm northern european are just spreading basic alcohol all over everything they were doin this to protect me when i was in their tender care, god love em, maybe thats why these more equatorial countries are being spared? it could be too that sunlight and vitamin C are just big factors in not dying from it. and its that simple....
*steps outside into my equatorial tropics for a breath of fresh air and pops a jalapeno to chase with some tequila*
I told u we don't make proteinz cu we don't know how to fold them. DOI g it at random is like trying to decrypt my hidden shota volume, take 1000000 tries. :P
Jimjam
04-27-2020, 02:17 PM
Well PM BJ finished his battle with Karana and is back at the pedals. Apparently 20k deaths in hospitals and supposedly 20k in care homes. Competing with the US for first place, despite having just a 5th of the population (though mostly crammed into one tiny island).
Sibelia1
04-27-2020, 02:21 PM
basically i sorta think those that released this into the wild were like 'if we go down this road, this is just a bonus, it will further erode the freedoms in the way of our progress'
seek bible camp, or whatever it is u believe in Kaveh (I think u r someone i like who isn't exactly christian in the strictest sense, but has a more original eastern flair to their beliefs).
/pras
you're right i have zero idea what all the major universities and 3rd world countries have access to in order to basically industrialize and manufacture virus's designed to target specific organisms... and make a killing $$$ on treating specific cancers that "rich" *but not really lol (god bless their hearts) people get (after drinking out of plastic bottles for 20yrs) with 'experimental' medicine.... you do know that many cancers are caused by viral agents as well? virii have been the fun thing to study since people realized how striaghtforward they were and easy to manipulate vs a complex bacterium or higher organism, "scientists" love starting at the fundamental building blocks and working their way towards complexity via experimentation... the implications are pretty profound if you can see what I mean here...
LOL
anyway - surprisingly why has no one made a protein that can infuse/bind with the spike, pretend to be a cell wall.. on the virus and allow the little buggers to be safely chelated from our bods? I bet if the lil virus's pooped out their guts into our bloodstream it would be harmlessly broken down and not cause any replication, so u don't even need to do anything other then stimulate the virus to poop itself not into a cell
probably because no one has thought about using such a straightforward approach, maybe because its cheap and laughably easy but not really pharmacologically patentable??
IDK, I believe I am immune to the first strain now and I am pretty sure my healthy godly mind and body will not be destroyed by subsequent strains, god has plans for me and it's not to die of COVID 19.1a.2bc.fx84
that's not to argue the rest of the world won't burn, it very well may, i have no control over that and I leave it in gods blessed hands to help the human species *cough* choose the path to it's destiny...
all the people that aren't super duper uhmmm northern european are just spreading basic alcohol all over everything they were doin this to protect me when i was in their tender care, god love em, maybe thats why these more equatorial countries are being spared? it could be too that sunlight and vitamin C are just big factors in not dying from it. and its that simple....
*steps outside into my equatorial tropics for a breath of fresh air and pops a jalapeno to chase with some tequila*
We can't make shit from scratch yet. But eventually you will be able to add water to o a little sheet of paper stuff and it folds itself into a cute mug, or expands out into a saucer. So all yer kitchen can pack down totally tlat into a brick when u move :p
Kaveh
04-27-2020, 02:59 PM
We should ban exports of food. Something good should come from this crisis, a couple billion need to starve and maybe the Middle East and Africa will discover birth control. Or they won’t. But it begs the question, if God doesn’t love you, why should I?
Lojik
04-27-2020, 03:01 PM
89% accuracy or 'sensitivity' in tests like these is very common and some level of false positive results are inherent in all clinical tests. For example, those flu swabs you get when you go to the doctor have a similar level of sensitivity. They are still useful.
So this is part of the problem. You have laymen like me who fail to properly explain things. The issue (I think) with this stanford study, in addition to selection bias, was that they had two false positives out of 401 tested samples the actual range of the false positive rate could be much higher than 1.2%, meaning that false positives could account for many if not all of the positive cases. Or at least this is my understanding trying to read critiques of it. I'm assuming that had this been done on a much larger scale with the same ratios that it would be much more statistically...robust is maybe the word? It's also pretty contradictory to the fact that we've already had over .1% of the population of NYC die from covid19, and unlikely that the entire population of NYC has been infected already or that the death total will stop right now.
Gwaihir
04-27-2020, 04:19 PM
So this is part of the problem. You have laymen like me who fail to properly explain things. The issue (I think) with this stanford study, in addition to selection bias, was that they had two false positives out of 401 tested samples the actual range of the false positive rate could be much higher than 1.2%, meaning that false positives could account for many if not all of the positive cases. Or at least this is my understanding trying to read critiques of it. I'm assuming that had this been done on a much larger scale with the same ratios that it would be much more statistically...robust is maybe the word? It's also pretty contradictory to the fact that we've already had over .1% of the population of NYC die from covid19, and unlikely that the entire population of NYC has been infected already or that the death total will stop right now.
If the falso positives were 20%, it would still indicate a mortality rate of less than 0.3 percent.
Gatorsmash
04-27-2020, 04:52 PM
If the falso positives were 20%, it would still indicate a mortality rate of less than 0.3 percent.
Unless your one of these mouth breathing idiots- You would have noticed that they're discovering covid-19 has been killing people in different ways unknown to this point, like with the new discovery its causing cardiac arrest in people that were otherwise unknown to be sick. Just those extra death alone puts it between 1 and 2%
Edit- for the uninformed, covid-19 attacks the ACE2 cell which is found in a few places in your body. The higher rate of death for men is because it's in our nuts. Well the other place this is found is lining our blood vessels And that's why they think diabetics and over weight people have the highest percentage of deaths. They noticed statically heart attacks have gone up since November
Kaveh
04-27-2020, 05:02 PM
Unless your one of these mouth breathing idiots- You would have noticed that they're discovering covid-19 has been killing people in different ways unknown to this point, like with the new discovery its causing cardiac arrest in people that were otherwise unknown to be sick. Just those extra death alone puts it between 1 and 2%
It’s causing a novel form of coagulopathy that’s causing both large vessel occlusions and MIs. The immune system often does the killing during a viral infection, which is why diabetes, hypertension, and obesity dramatically increase the mortality rate.
That said, I don’t think we actually know all that much about this virus
Kaveh
04-27-2020, 05:03 PM
Hmmm, interesting, didn’t know that
You sure men having worse lungs do to exposure and cigarette smoking isn’t part of it? Or the fact that men have weaker immune systems in general?
Kaveh
04-27-2020, 05:14 PM
Unless your one of these mouth breathing idiots- You would have noticed that they're discovering covid-19 has been killing people in different ways unknown to this point, like with the new discovery its causing cardiac arrest in people that were otherwise unknown to be sick. Just those extra death alone puts it between 1 and 2%
Edit- for the uninformed, covid-19 attacks the ACE2 cell which is found in a few places in your body. The higher rate of death for men is because it's in our nuts. Well the other place this is found is lining our blood vessels And that's why they think diabetics and over weight people have the highest percentage of deaths. They noticed statically heart attacks have gone up since November
Do you have a link? The only studies I found on pubmed were Chinese, and I don’t trust or believe low IQ hive minds who can’t produce female orgasm. Any reputable institutions studying the findings you postulate ?
Gatorsmash
04-27-2020, 05:28 PM
It’s causing a novel form of coagulopathy that’s causing both large vessel occlusions and MIs. The immune system often does the killing during a viral infection, which is why diabetes, hypertension, and obesity dramatically increase the mortality rate.
That said, I don’t think we actually know all that much about this virus
Thank you said it a lot better than I could. I agree it's kind of scary what this virus can do before you realize there's a problem and they really have no idea
Sibelia1
04-27-2020, 05:29 PM
ace2 is a enzyme not a cell u little insect
Lojik
04-27-2020, 05:44 PM
https://medium.com/@balajis/peer-review-of-covid-19-antibody-seroprevalence-in-santa-clara-county-california-1f6382258c25
A review of the Stanford study and all the issues. Again I don't think I did a good enough job of explaining the statistical issues.
solleks
04-27-2020, 05:45 PM
Member when they said the Apollo missions happened
Gwaihir
04-27-2020, 06:28 PM
Unless your one of these mouth breathing idiots- You would have noticed that they're discovering covid-19 has been killing people in different ways unknown to this point, like with the new discovery its causing cardiac arrest in people that were otherwise unknown to be sick. Just those extra death alone puts it between 1 and 2%
Edit- for the uninformed, covid-19 attacks the ACE2 cell which is found in a few places in your body. The higher rate of death for men is because it's in our nuts. Well the other place this is found is lining our blood vessels And that's why they think diabetics and over weight people have the highest percentage of deaths. They noticed statically heart attacks have gone up since November
*doubles down*
*shills harder*
Gatorsmash
04-27-2020, 06:37 PM
ace2 is a enzyme not a cell u little insect
An enzyme receptor on a [wait for it] CELL..... Which gives access to the [dramatic pause] CELL.
Keep on Deeerrrrppp Huuuuuuurrring thru life son
Woke Locc
04-27-2020, 06:58 PM
How much people die each day in the US in normal times?
?
magnetaress
04-27-2020, 07:01 PM
I told u we don't make proteinz cu we don't know how to fold them. DOI g it at random is like trying to decrypt my hidden shota volume, take 1000000 tries. :P
Yeah we just take them already folded from something else cuz lazy.
Also ps4 protein folder distributed compute using ppls brains, bet it's been worked into a mini game n people don't even realize they are folden.
I'll defer to your active interest in the topic as opposed to my bored fantasies.
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