BDA to Phinigel

[Kevynne]

Did you really think it was going to turn around after page 258?

a little ya

[jcr4990]

I have been on phinny for 3 weeks now raiding with the best guild on the server.

I can't help but think BDA is full of retards if you can't kill dumbed down content that DBG pushes out. This shit is easy life compared to p99 code.

Translation: I paid for powerleveling or bought an account and joined up as a warmbody in the #1 guild on the server that farms all current content in their sleep. This content is super ezmode gais trust me.

[arsenalpow]

Nice and easy PoG/Tunare plus Fear/draco/golems/CT kill

Double belt off draco, triple choker + cloak off CT

[Detoxx]

Nice and easy PoG/Tunare plus Fear/draco/golems/CT kill

Double belt off draco, triple choker + cloak off CT

Just curious, is Vyemm the only fight that's DL spam or are most velious fights that way? I can't see how mana could possibly sustain through DL spam but no idea how hard he hits or how much HP he has I guess.

[Detoxx]

Also, have u tried healing from WToV? Might be in range at that wall you can see him through

[LostCause]

well they have focus items etc plus im pretty certain your mana on phinny is way more then it is on p99 even with same items.

[LostCause]

my 50 nec on ragefire had like 3k mana with decent gear def not BIS.


that was bit ago but nothing changed with phinny expect instances and boxing rule.

also focus items def make a difference with mana depending on the focus.

[LostCause]

mana use i should say.


but i don't recall any focus that makes heals any less but i don't remember haven't play TLP since ragefire.

[Bruno]

Just curious, is Vyemm the only fight that's DL spam or are most velious fights that way? I can't see how mana could possibly sustain through DL spam but no idea how hard he hits or how much HP he has I guess.

There are only a hand full we spam. The rest are CH chain. Between mana pool, pots, pumps, bards, and rods, we are able to spam for a bit. Our guild has an awesome necro crew.

[Bruno]

Oh ya, and as mentioned, focus effects.

[Daldaen]

Mana Preservation 3 focus are extremely few and far between in Velious.

Obulus Death Shroud from Sebilis (but anyone worth their salt uses Shawl 8 for FT3)
Crystalline Torque from some Velketor named (yea remember that 12 AC piece of crap you threw away on P99? It saves 0-10% mana on every cast shortly after Luclin launch)
Sky Watchers Monocle from Feshlak (remember that crappy caster mask going for almost no DKP, again gets mana pres in Luclin)
Lady Nev's Left Eye (This is probably the lolsiest of the mana pres. 15 to all melee stats and 50 HP... Yet it gets mana pres so it goes from a BiS monk/rogue type item to being BiS Caster even with 0 mana)

So there really isn't much mana preservation action going on for the people on Phinigel right now unless those Torques are super common.

Mana Preservation 2 focus caps at level 44, and degrades up. So a 53 spell would only save a maximum of 5.5% mana.

The more important thing I think is that WIS/INT calculations are different on live causing higher mana pools. Atleast in this era it factors in more than mana pres foci do.

[Bruno]

Mana Preservation 3 focus are extremely few and far between in Velious.

Obulus Death Shroud from Sebilis (but anyone worth their salt uses Shawl 8 for FT3)
Crystalline Torque from some Velketor named (yea remember that 12 AC piece of crap you threw away on P99? It saves 0-10% mana on every cast shortly after Luclin launch)
Sky Watchers Monocle from Feshlak (remember that crappy caster mask going for almost no DKP, again gets mana pres in Luclin)
Lady Nev's Left Eye (This is probably the lolsiest of the mana pres. 15 to all melee stats and 50 HP... Yet it gets mana pres so it goes from a BiS monk/rogue type item to being BiS Caster even with 0 mana)

So there really isn't much mana preservation action going on for the people on Phinigel right now unless those Torques are super common.

Mana Preservation 2 focus caps at level 44, and degrades up. So a 53 spell would only save a maximum of 5.5% mana.

The more important thing I think is that WIS/INT calculations are different on live causing higher mana pools. Atleast in this era it factors in more than mana pres foci do.

Ssra had some really baller mechanics.

Even something as simple as XtC was a huge change up. A mob that Rampaged every round meant you had to run two CH chains simultaneously while keeping your tanks cured of the Debuff. No more "just spot heal the ramp tank" strat.

High Priest encounter though I only did it a handful of times when modern, was also incredible. Remember those banishment spells that went on page 32 of your spell book? Yea pull those bitches out and actually use them!

Emperor was a great one. I have mixed feelings on the banes but I really liked how the event required all forms of CC. Unmezzable slowed mobs for your knights to offtank, unslowable mezzables for your Enchanters to lock down, main boss for your raid to tank, and respawning adds if you're too slow for DPS to handle. Great all around event.

Luclin crushed Velious in every way. Hell some of the best parts of Velious, came during Luclin. Shawl 8 Quest and Vulak Ring event namely being great examples.

??????

You drunk?

[Man0warr]

Mana Preservation 3 focus are extremely few and far between in Velious.

Obulus Death Shroud from Sebilis (but anyone worth their salt uses Shawl 8 for FT3)
Crystalline Torque from some Velketor named (yea remember that 12 AC piece of crap you threw away on P99? It saves 0-10% mana on every cast shortly after Luclin launch)
Sky Watchers Monocle from Feshlak (remember that crappy caster mask going for almost no DKP, again gets mana pres in Luclin)
Lady Nev's Left Eye (This is probably the lolsiest of the mana pres. 15 to all melee stats and 50 HP... Yet it gets mana pres so it goes from a BiS monk/rogue type item to being BiS Caster even with 0 mana)

So there really isn't much mana preservation action going on for the people on Phinigel right now unless those Torques are super common.

Mana Preservation 2 focus caps at level 44, and degrades up. So a 53 spell would only save a maximum of 5.5% mana.

The more important thing I think is that WIS/INT calculations are different on live causing higher mana pools. Atleast in this era it factors in more than mana pres foci do.

Shawl 8 isn't in game until Luclin, so most casters use Obulus Death Shroud if they can afford it (very rare, sells for ~30k). Velks is super popular though, usually 3-5 instances running so the Torque is pretty common but still sells for 10k or so.

[Daldaen]

Damn I didn't realize Daybreak was that accurate with their progression servers. I thought they had just left all the Shawls and Iksar epics in! I knew when it was implemented on live, wasn't aware they'd pulled it until Luclin launch though.

[Man0warr]

Phinny is way more accurate than some of the other TLP servers they've done. They un-revamped most the zones (loot/mechanics wise, the graphical/geometry overhauls are still there).

The way they broke the Shawl 8 is just made it so you can't get the Etching tools from the dwarf jeweler, you can still collect everything else though.

[Daldaen]

Well most of it was collectible before they even introduced it. I guess the shimmering geonid drops being the only exception.

What did they do with Cazic-Thule? Is it a level 20-30 dungeon or is it the 50+ revamp version? I'd guess the former because a lot of that gear in CT is OP in Velious. Those FT3 boots I'm sure will sell for several Kronos.

[arsenalpow]

Well most of it was collectible before they even introduced it. I guess the shimmering geonid drops being the only exception.

What did they do with Cazic-Thule? Is it a level 20-30 dungeon or is it the 50+ revamp version? I'd guess the former because a lot of that gear in CT is OP in Velious. Those FT3 boots I'm sure will sell for several Kronos.

It's still a lowbie dungeon. I got some good exp there when I was a lowbie.

[Sodors Finest Poster]

SODOR RAILWAY: Hiro

Hiro was the first steam engine to arrive on the Island of Sodor and was originally know as the "Master of the Railway." Hiro is one of the oldest and strongest engines on the Island.

Fun Fact!
Hiro is based on a Japanese National Railways Class D51 built by Kawasaki.

http://imgur.com/lfq8g7S.jpg

[khanable]

You guys should fight vyemm in the water

[Kushie]

I've never met anyone who knows more about Everquest than Daldaen.

[derpcake]

thats pretty rude

[Daldaen]

I've never met anyone who knows more about Everquest than Daldaen.

Probably because us neckbeards don't venture far from our lairs/caves!

[maskedmelon]

Probably because us neckbeards don't venture far from our lairs/caves!

No, I'm pretty sure it's because nobody else knows more. Though Ele is a very strong competitor. You two should co-author a book: EverQuest: Game Mechanics and the History Thereof or something like that.

[Kushie]

Yeah seriously Daldaen. Come play on Phini with BDA? You're like EQ Jesus

[Spyder73]

Kushie be like:

[Kushie]

I don't ride motorcycles or show up to Vox raids

[SyanideGas]

I don't ride motorcycles or show up to Vox raids

QFT

[Meep]

Yeah seriously Daldaen. Come play on Phini with BDA? You're like EQ Jesus

I thought you guys only circlejerked within your guild tag

[Sodors Finest Poster]

Can I join BDA?

[arsenalpow]

No

[Sodors Finest Poster]

No

Please?

[Sodors Finest Poster]

http://imgur.com/ByVRt4A.jpg

[arsenalpow]

Absolutely not.

[khanable]

Can I join?

[arsenalpow]

Cucumbers
Last Active - August 22, 2016

[Sodors Finest Poster]

Well poop.

Guess i'm back to tracking for 16 hours on P99.

http://imgur.com/KHxZhha.jpg

[Spyder73]

I don't ride motorcycles or show up to Vox raids

Confirmed poor IRL and terrible raid attendance

Kushie be like:

[arsenalpow]

How does that picture have anything to do with him being a former doctor or fluffer?

0/10

[Spyder73]

How does that picture have anything to do with him being a former doctor or fluffer?

0/10

Wouldn’t expect someone like you to understand my art. Not to call you shallow, but you lack the necessary depth to appreciate something as complex as this piece.

The picture depicts an overweight man with glasses who appears to be caught off-guard while working on his computer. But what is really going on here? Let’s examine a little deeper. He is working on his 1990’s computer that he brought with him from Kazakhstan. Being an unsociable immigrant, things have not been going well for Kushie in America. On top of his social problems, he has been missing raids lately because of CPU overheating and his raid attendance is suffering greatly. He is doing this work himself while not wearing cloths, this is a reflection of the work he has had to pick up (male fluffer) and his lack of money (poor). The indignation in his eyes comes from the fact that every time a sweaty man unzips his pants to be fluffed, he remembers his wife and kids who were murdered by the General during the great war in Kazakhstan. You see, he couldn’t save the General’s son from a gunshot wound and was blamed for the death personally. Nevermind that he had spent the last 25 years as a field surgeon. In his rage the General hobbled Kushie’s wife by cutting her feet off and she is now expected to spread her legs for any man in the army without question. But that’s all in the past since his discovery of P99 and the forum persona Kushie.

[jcr4990]

Can I join BDA?

Just join anonymously like Alarti did

[maskedmelon]

Wouldn’t expect someone like you to understand my art. Not to call you shallow, but you lack the necessary depth to appreciate something as complex as this piece.

The picture depicts an overweight man with glasses who appears to be caught off-guard while working on his computer. But what is really going on here? Let’s examine a little deeper. He is working on his 1990’s computer that he brought with him from Kazakhstan. Being an unsociable immigrant, things have not been going well for Kushie in America. On top of his social problems, he has been missing raids lately because of CPU overheating and his raid attendance is suffering greatly. He is doing this work himself while not wearing cloths, this is a reflection of the work he has had to pick up (male fluffer) and his lack of money (poor). The indignation in his eyes comes from the fact that every time a sweaty man unzips his pants to be fluffed, he remembers his wife and kids who were murdered by the General during the great war in Kazakhstan. You see, he couldn’t save the General’s son from a gunshot wound and was blamed for the death personally. Nevermind that he had spent the last 25 years as a field surgeon. In his rage the General hobbled Kushie’s wife by cutting her feet off and she is now expected to spread her legs for any man in the army without question. But that’s all in the past since his discovery of P99 and the forum persona Kushie.

A little too sinister in the finale...

[bdastomper58]

Wouldn’t expect someone like you to understand my art. Not to call you shallow, but you lack the necessary depth to appreciate something as complex as this piece.

The picture depicts an overweight man with glasses who appears to be caught off-guard while working on his computer. But what is really going on here? Let’s examine a little deeper. He is working on his 1990’s computer that he brought with him from Kazakhstan. Being an unsociable immigrant, things have not been going well for Kushie in America. On top of his social problems, he has been missing raids lately because of CPU overheating and his raid attendance is suffering greatly. He is doing this work himself while not wearing cloths, this is a reflection of the work he has had to pick up (male fluffer) and his lack of money (poor). The indignation in his eyes comes from the fact that every time a sweaty man unzips his pants to be fluffed, he remembers his wife and kids who were murdered by the General during the great war in Kazakhstan. You see, he couldn’t save the General’s son from a gunshot wound and was blamed for the death personally. Nevermind that he had spent the last 25 years as a field surgeon. In his rage the General hobbled Kushie’s wife by cutting her feet off and she is now expected to spread her legs for any man in the army without question. But that’s all in the past since his discovery of P99 and the forum persona Kushie.

i understand you take negativite reactions as proof of masterful trolling but yuck. this isnt funny its just gross and really fucking weird.

[Kushie]

I don't wear glasses and I'm not poor. You're trying too hard. I'm sorry for making you mad about being a little bitch crying about wu-tang surnames, I didn't mean to trigger you.

[Spyder73]

Gotta push the limits to find the line bro

[Raev]

Spyder vs Kushie is like the special olympics of trolling

[nicemace]

Probably because us neckbeards don't venture far from our lairs/caves!

dald mate, whats the go to shit to farm in luclin?

[Daldaen]

For platinums... Probably tradeskill stuff to start. Superb/Flawless Rockhopper Hides from DSP will sell decently well, especially since it provides an avenue beyond 158 Tailoring for anyone worried about Shawl 6/8 combines and for the main cash cow of Luclin... The Earring of the Solstice. Basically every non-cutting edge caster and hybrid on the server is going to want one.

Hopefully you foraged and saved stuff from your Velious Adventures.

Dragon Eggs (WW/ToV), Branch of Planar Oak (PoGrowth), Plains Pebble (Karanas), Wild Cabbage (North Karana) being some of the more annoying forage things to get in mass. Other than those foraged items you need some drops from the perma rooted plants in FG, some Spider silk and a Druid/Cleric of Tunare and Karana to Imbue.

Beyond that, for actual farming stuff to sell, I can see mostly spells like Spirit of the Eagle being decent sales in the beginning, I always farmed that off Elysians in UP. The tradeable gear from Luclin really isn't that incredible after farming out Velious. Not too much that really pops out for farmable loot.

But really, if selling No Drop loot rights is common, VT Shards, specifically the Maiden's Eye one are going to be very expensive. A good bard can keep all the PHers cleared by swarm kiting once you figure out the camp.

MQs for Seru Earring would sell well too. The Loyalist Shield can basically be sold as an MQ too with the rare vampire ashes (dat 50 AC Back item).

[Relbaic]

let me know if u actually read this so i can make fun of u

Read it because well, I'm moving on to Luclin and want to go in prepared!

[Daldaen]

Vyemm down

Grats, you're prepared for Luclin.

I don't know what version of Acrylia Caverns you are going to get, but definitely farm out the burrower in there. The Talisman is damn near BiS neck for priests with clicky 2 mana regen that stacks with everything along with several other Mana Regen items and the group PE shaman club. A very easy 2-group style mob.

[nhdjoseywales]

Vyemm down

grats guys

[Daldaen]

http://everquest.allakhazam.com/db/item.html?item=13242

The value of this item cannot be understated. The 15% Riposte mod alone increased your chance to riposte an attack by something like 0.5-1%, which is actually a huge reduction in damage being able to deflect 1/100 attacks entirely.

Plus it will keep your warrior good until DBoW.

[Fifield]

Raiding with BDA on phinny, +1000 Wifepoints. Raiding on P99, -1000 Wifepoints.

Beastlords baby!!!

[burkemi5]

Man I can't wait for Luclin release on p99... so many awesome raid targets! Oh wait... nevermind.. guess we'll keep facetracking, racing, and general neckbearding to the same ole content until the end of time.

[Hoozi]

Not BDA but.... cleared fear last night, 3x puppet strings, 2 AoNs, 0 drama. FWIW 1 AON will sell for about 20 krono - thats 20 months of your subscription (for those on the fence about playing because of monthly costs.... it can be free.)

Also if you're just starting (and dont have krono rolling in yet), its only $71.99 for a year (thats $5.99 for a month). Quick sale they're having on yearly sub fee.... offer only good 8/25 - 8/29

[Juevento]

I just got Vulak loot without Detoxx petitions, Lazie trains or 16 hour poopsocks.

Yeah but everyone knows ToV loot isn't as shiny if you didn't have to wipe off the Detoxx spittle.

[AzzarTheGod]

Man I can't wait for Luclin release on p99... so many awesome raid targets! Oh wait... nevermind.. guess we'll keep facetracking, racing, and general neckbearding to the same ole content until the end of time.


The dunks bark hard n they bang with their left hook

How's luclin going on p99

[Daldaen]

Raiding with BDA on phinny, +1000 Wifepoints. Raiding on P99, -1000 Wifepoints.

Beastlords baby!!!

Are you really rolling a Beastlord???

Bard is a much more fun raiding class in PoP/GoD than Beastlord. Probably some of my most fun EQ Raiding was during PoP splitting out minis from EPs like Water and Fire solo as a bard.

Some guilds slow clear through 30 trash, others just have a single bard or two split it out and save you an hour of trash clearing. Be that bard.

[khanable]

has bda killed cargalia?

[arsenalpow]

We've got 3 active people rerolling into Beastlord when mooncats drops. I guess that's enough beastlords?

This was our vulak/zlexak list from last night, notice way too few wizards heh

9 Buddish 60 Bard Yes
5 Kushie 60 Bard Yes
4 Shidal 60 Bard Yes
2 Canla 60 Bard Yes
1 Brumans 60 Bard Yes
6 Draclau 60 Cleric Yes
5 Novak 60 Cleric Yes
7 Aywie 60 Cleric Yes
2 Alceus 60 Cleric Yes
4 Doab 60 Cleric Yes
3 Psyon 60 Cleric Group Leader Yes
1 Satren 60 Cleric Yes
8 Hobagins 60 Druid Yes
4 Sephirox 60 Druid Group Leader Yes
9 Rhinovirus 60 Druid Yes
10 Leadara 58 Druid Yes
7 Gloves 60 Enchanter Yes
7 Mallos 60 Enchanter Yes
7 Sark 60 Enchanter Raid Leader Yes
7 Tofusin 60 Enchanter Yes
3 Burlington 60 Magician Yes
11 Verocious 60 Magician Group Leader Yes
3 Ruhi 60 Monk Yes
9 Eshan 60 Monk Group Leader Yes
10 Togashi 52 Monk Group Leader Yes
11 Whackin 60 Monk Yes
3 Chest 60 Monk Yes
8 Lucene 60 Necromancer Yes
11 Gedar 60 Paladin Yes
6 Baeren 60 Paladin Yes
5 Chroniix 60 Ranger Yes
5 Duie 60 Ranger Group Leader Yes
5 Kelandi 60 Ranger Yes
5 Prison 60 Rogue Yes
9 Catabrie 60 Rogue Yes
11 Blaza 60 Rogue Yes
4 Qwikstik 60 Rogue Yes
4 Kinglance 60 Rogue Yes
4 Cephalic 60 Rogue Yes
6 Blandino 60 Shadow Knight Yes
6 Riddle 60 Shadow Knight Group Leader Yes
3 Relbaic 60 Shadow Knight Yes
1 Ctiz 60 Shaman Yes
3 Obould 60 Shaman Yes
2 Kaelz 60 Shaman Yes
10 Turgid 60 Shaman Yes
11 Krimson 60 Shaman Yes
9 Slowscales 60 Shaman Yes
2 Grogblok 60 Warrior Group Leader Yes
1 Pantera 60 Warrior Group Leader Yes
1 Lawdee 60 Warrior Yes
2 Aanoc 60 Warrior Yes
1 Whiskeydrunk 60 Warrior Yes
2 Hashtag 60 Warrior Yes
8 Pullyn 60 Wizard Group Leader Yes
8 Frostmage 60 Wizard Yes

[Relbaic]

Are you really rolling a Beastlord???

Bard is a much more fun raiding class in PoP/GoD than Beastlord. Probably some of my most fun EQ Raiding was during PoP splitting out minis from EPs like Water and Fire solo as a bard.

Some guilds slow clear through 30 trash, others just have a single bard or two split it out and save you an hour of trash clearing. Be that bard.

Fifields a mage on Phinny with a bard bot!

[burkemi5]

Is the Vulak ring event in on Phinny? I'm guessing no.

[Daldaen]

3 is about good. Just a few for MGB Paragon on endurance fights and to keep up Spiritual mana regen for the casters.

Dat raid dump though.

I will say, the raid window was certainly one of the best UI additions they ever added. Extended Target Window probably is the only thing that surpasses it in awesomeness value.

[Daldaen]

Vulak Ring Event doesn't exist on any server anymore.

It may exist in some form on an emulator somewhere I'm not aware of. But they removed it a long while back. It existed on Al'Kabor up until that was shut down though. So there is some reliable information about it.

[arsenalpow]

So there's a drake named Thylex that hangs out near Vulak. If Thylex is up, once all the Lords and Ladies are dead Thylex will despawn and Vulak will pop. He's perma rooted and still hits like a truck. Every once in a while he will back to back flurry and evaporate a tank even when defensive. It's a simple fight, but he's still mean.

[khanable]

We've got 3 active people rerolling into Beastlord when mooncats drops. I guess that's enough beastlords?

This was our vulak/zlexak list from last night, notice way too few wizards heh

9 Buddish 60 Bard Yes
5 Kushie 60 Bard Yes
4 Shidal 60 Bard Yes
2 Canla 60 Bard Yes
1 Brumans 60 Bard Yes
6 Draclau 60 Cleric Yes
5 Novak 60 Cleric Yes
7 Aywie 60 Cleric Yes
2 Alceus 60 Cleric Yes
4 Doab 60 Cleric Yes
3 Psyon 60 Cleric Group Leader Yes
1 Satren 60 Cleric Yes
8 Hobagins 60 Druid Yes
4 Sephirox 60 Druid Group Leader Yes
9 Rhinovirus 60 Druid Yes
10 Leadara 58 Druid Yes
7 Gloves 60 Enchanter Yes
7 Mallos 60 Enchanter Yes
7 Sark 60 Enchanter Raid Leader Yes
7 Tofusin 60 Enchanter Yes
3 Burlington 60 Magician Yes
11 Verocious 60 Magician Group Leader Yes
3 Ruhi 60 Monk Yes
9 Eshan 60 Monk Group Leader Yes
10 Togashi 52 Monk Group Leader Yes
11 Whackin 60 Monk Yes
3 Chest 60 Monk Yes
8 Lucene 60 Necromancer Yes
11 Gedar 60 Paladin Yes
6 Baeren 60 Paladin Yes
5 Chroniix 60 Ranger Yes
5 Duie 60 Ranger Group Leader Yes
5 Kelandi 60 Ranger Yes
5 Prison 60 Rogue Yes
9 Catabrie 60 Rogue Yes
11 Blaza 60 Rogue Yes
4 Qwikstik 60 Rogue Yes
4 Kinglance 60 Rogue Yes
4 Cephalic 60 Rogue Yes
6 Blandino 60 Shadow Knight Yes
6 Riddle 60 Shadow Knight Group Leader Yes
3 Relbaic 60 Shadow Knight Yes
1 Ctiz 60 Shaman Yes
3 Obould 60 Shaman Yes
2 Kaelz 60 Shaman Yes
10 Turgid 60 Shaman Yes
11 Krimson 60 Shaman Yes
9 Slowscales 60 Shaman Yes
2 Grogblok 60 Warrior Group Leader Yes
1 Pantera 60 Warrior Group Leader Yes
1 Lawdee 60 Warrior Yes
2 Aanoc 60 Warrior Yes
1 Whiskeydrunk 60 Warrior Yes
2 Hashtag 60 Warrior Yes
8 Pullyn 60 Wizard Group Leader Yes
8 Frostmage 60 Wizard Yes

I bolded alarti

[arsenalpow]

We already decided that Eshan is Alarti

[khanable]

prove it

[burkemi5]

For what it's worth the Vulak ring event will exist on P2002.

[Spyder73]

I just got Vulak loot without Detoxx petitions, Lazie trains or 16 hour poopsocks.

So did every other guild on the server, every week

[khysanth]

oh no how will I live with myself, these other people I don't know are also playing this game and killing things on their own schedules

[Hoozi]

oh no how will I live with myself, these other people I don't know are also playing this game and killing things on their own schedules

This is the amazing part that people dont get. Poopsocking != competition, its stupidity - nothing more.

Who the hell cares if someone else is also getting loot? Seriously.

[Fuddwin]

I bolded alarti

So that's where Alarti has been...

[colicab]

So that's where Alarti has been...
Meanwhile Fuddwin still has no Circle of Seasons.

[AzzarTheGod]

Vulak Ring Event doesn't exist on any server anymore.

It may exist in some form on an emulator somewhere I'm not aware of. But they removed it a long while back. It existed on Al'Kabor up until that was shut down though. So there is some reliable information about it.

Really sad. Remove it, for what?...

Still proving WoW deserves its triple A ranking.

[Daldaen]

That's a fantastic question.

I'm not sure what precipitated the removal of the ring event.

I just wish it could be recreated on P99. Having an actual challenging raid encounter that requires real strategy and gearing to win, rather than the challenge being the spawn time/race. I've always preferred the PvE challenge rather than the PvP challenge. The game can be tuned to be challenging, but unfortunately they didn't really do that until later expansions.

Underfoot was a great expansion to work through for example, especially if you got to experience the raids before the several waves of revamps that watered them down. We didn't even get to see a few of the alpha versions in my guild and we were either top 5 or 10 server wide at the time. I recall one of those events we failed 70 times before winning... Most of them we would wipe 20-30 times before figuring out a winning strategy. It was good shit.

[Uuruk]

That's a fantastic question.

I'm not sure what precipitated the removal of the ring event.

I just wish it could be recreated on P99. Having an actual challenging raid encounter that requires real strategy and gearing to win, rather than the challenge being the spawn time/race. I've always preferred the PvE challenge rather than the PvP challenge. The game can be tuned to be challenging, but unfortunately they didn't really do that until later expansions.

Underfoot was a great expansion to work through for example, especially if you got to experience the raids before the several waves of revamps that watered them down. We didn't even get to see a few of the alpha versions in my guild and we were either top 5 or 10 server wide at the time. I recall one of those events we failed 70 times before winning... Most of them we would wipe 20-30 times before figuring out a winning strategy. It was good shit.
Thx for comment.

Cuck

[Uuruk]

Just caught BDA using Mage Aggro exploit for several Velious encounters.

Yikes

[arsenalpow]

Just caught BDA using Mage Aggro exploit for several Velious encounters.

Yikes

tell me more!

[AzzarTheGod]

tell me more!

How about unban whistleblower from the forums and he can tell us?

[jcr4990]

So did every other guild on the server, every week

So in addition to pixels only mattering if u stare at walls 16 hrs before u loot them. They also only matter if by you getting them you fuck over the entire rest of the server?

Just checking. Sounds super healthy.

[entruil]

did eq implement fake accomplishments too? er sorry i mean achievements...

[bdastomper58]

So in addition to pixels only mattering if u stare at walls 16 hrs before u loot them. They also only matter if by you getting them you fuck over the entire rest of the server?

Just checking. Sounds super healthy.
if everyone is super noone is (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A8I9pYCl9AQ)

[bdastomper58]

being mad about your cucked life is fine.

pretending you aren't cucked is laughable.

cuck!!!!!!

[Troubled]

Weird posts, those last 2.

[kaev]

Weird posts, those last 2.

lol, only those 2? there're well over 2k posts in this thread :)

[Oleris]

wtb Luclin

http://eq.magelo.com/profile/3650472

[AzzarTheGod]

Luclin is when the classes start to actually take form and develop a true role in a raid setting, aka modern age of MMOs.

The fact p99 will not even see a char-copy box of Luclin or PoP (because its too time intensive for nillbog to develop something he didn't enjoy) certainly must have a lot of people feeling tight.

[Izmael]

God save us from modern age of MMOs.

[nhdjoseywales]

we killed vulak with alts tonight, gonna try and 3 split him sunday with mains

[Uuruk]

Just caught BDA using Mage Aggro exploit for several Velious encounters.

Yikes

[Sadre Spinegnawer]

Tracking points: accumulating

p99 roxxorz


http://i.imgur.com/7GUgXVt.jpg

[Oleris]

Not Wis capped. Son I am disappoint.

bear form I'm capped doggo

[Daldaen]

I love how those 2 wrists, are complete trash on P99, but with ER3 and BA3 they are incredible once Luclin drops and the focii got added (or just on Phinigel).

[burkemi5]

Chardok revamp in on phinny?

[Relbaic]

Chardok revamp in on phinny?

Yessir

[Uuruk]

I love how those 2 wrists, are complete trash on P99, but with ER3 and BA3 they are incredible once Luclin drops and the focii got added (or just on Phinigel).

Thx for story.

[khanable]

About fucking time uurcuck got banned

[Mead]

About fucking time uurcuck got banned

Surprised he got this far to be honest. Top 3 worst poster on these forums.

[Troubled]

About fucking time uurcuck got banned

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n1CLmap_CVU

[burkemi5]

Dumb it down is what you do with old trivial content. Have you played thru Gnomeregan in wow lately?

Every dungeon in wow is like that it's really sad honestly.

[Ahldagor]

Dumb it down is what you do with old trivial content. Have you played thru Gnomeregan in wow lately?

Last time I went through it all the same content was there.

[Sadre Spinegnawer]

Slightly off-topic, but can we just rename the rants and flames forum to "BDA to Phinigel"?

Or maybe create a sub-forum, "BDA to Phinigel Rickshaw"?

Or maybe these are just solutions in search of a problem, in which case, never mind.

[Ravager]

For so long BDA tried to stay out of RnF, now RnF is BDA.

[AzzarTheGod]

Last time I went through it most of the same vestigial content was there, but without the same quests and no group would even consider taking another route than a 10 minute run to the last boss (who no longer spawned bomblets)

This is accurate. The boss was watered down.

Deadmines also was nerfed big time if I remember correctly. Massive overhaul in difficulty and bosses a long time ago.

[AzzarTheGod]

Cant wait for luclin

Luclin is such a beast I can't even fathom it tbh.

AAs, real raid design, itemization gets balanced with focus items finally for casters, damn I better stop.

Don't want some nerd to go all he-who-shall-not-be-named on his keyboard.

[LostCause]

shit i wonder if TLP servers will get the old katta back i doubt it since its too much work to change but i wonder how they will go about that when luclin comes.

[AzzarTheGod]

shit i wonder if TLP servers will get the old katta back i doubt it since its too much work to change but i wonder how they will go about that when luclin comes.

Katta and the surrounding areas are confirmed unfinished concepts by Brad and Luclin devs, they never finished Luclin.

Going through those zones in classic you could feel that we only got half of what Luclin was going to be. Could you imagine if we got FULL LUCLIN? Yikes, can you say most ambitious expac in MMO history to date, ever.

It was such a massive time in MMO history. Easily the golden age of EQ.

[bdastomper58]

ehhh

sour grapes

p99 is a fun video game very sorry you lost!:)

[bdastomper58]

250 page thread for a game you don't play

really weird

[nostalgiaquest]

dont worry there's always ....

well atleast you can look forward to ....

oh....

Good luck with that.

You think everyone is actually sad that luclin won't be released here. I played in a hardcore raid guild through PoP and I think Luclin is a steaming pile of shit. I have no desire to see it again. Hence I happily play on p99.

What exactly do you have to look forward to that's so great? Expansions that have been completely trivialized for years? More reason to waste your life sitting in front of a computer? Quit trying to wave your dick around like it means something.

Is your life really that sad that you have to constantly prove how much "better" you are at Everquest? If so then I truly pity you.

[jcr4990]

You think everyone is actually sad that luclin won't be released here. I played in a hardcore raid guild through PoP and I think Luclin is a steaming pile of shit. I have no desire to see it again. Hence I happily play on p99.

What exactly do you have to look forward to that's so great? Expansions that have been completely trivialized for years? More reason to waste your life sitting in front of a computer? Quit trying to wave your dick around like it means something.

Is your life really that sad that you have to constantly prove how much "better" you are at Everquest? If so then I truly pity you.

You're right. Neverending Velious on Poopsock99 sounds way better. What was I thinking?

[nostalgiaquest]

Nice deflection, you should try a career in politics.

You think you're somehow special because, again, you get to clear content that's old enough to have a driver's license. There's more to this game than being a hardcore raider or pixel hoarder though, and it's a shame you can't seem to grasp that.

I'm not saying p99 is better than phinny, or vice versa. I'm saying different strokes for different folks. You took your ball and you left, congrats, but don't pretend that you're special for doing it. I can't seem to figure out why it matters so obviously much to you what happens on this server now. Or why you in particular have to come to phinny's defense everytime it's mentioned

Is your life really that sad that you have to constantly prove how much "better" you are at Everquest? If so then I truly pity you.

[nhdjoseywales]

Nice deflection, you should try a career in politics.

You think you're somehow special because, again, you get to clear content that's old enough to have a driver's license. There's more to this game than being a hardcore raider or pixel hoarder though, and it's a shame you can't seem to grasp that.

I'm not saying p99 is better than phinny, or vice versa. I'm saying different strokes for different folks. You took your ball and you left, congrats, but don't pretend that you're special for doing it. I can't seem to figure out why it matters so obviously much to you what happens on this server now. Or why you in particular have to come to phinny's defense everytime it's mentioned

Is your life really that sad that you have to constantly prove how much "better" you are at Everquest? If so then I truly pity you.

if i had people constantly wanting me to fail i would probably rub my success in their face too. doing it to a community as toxic as this one only gets bonus points

[Daldaen]

Some people just like the Mechanics and Gameplay of EQ, and want that gameplay to get more intricate and be provided with more challenging content. Thus, Luclin.

Adding in AAs adds depth to all classes. Making mastering their play take a bit more with each activated ability they add.
New Raid Content is more challenging. Any old noob can run a CH chain and slow a boss and walk away with autoattack on for 3 minutes. Scripted events with adds, different phases, and requirements requires actual strategy. The closest P99 comes is the Ring 10 war.
Focus effects makes gearing actually interesting on a caster. The difference between a random HoTesting geared cleric and a BiS cleric is like 800 mana. Or 2 CH casts... Really not all that exciting.
Tradeskills actually have a purpose in Luclin so if those are your cup of tea you can actually profit off them.

It just expanded areas of the game that didn't have much depth before and made more challenging those which were starting to get stale.

Got on Phinigel last night myself, killed like 20 blue-white cons, got about 8% of a level at level 6. That solo EXP, so bad!

[maskedmelon]

Roast me

http://i.imgur.com/VmhNcXb.jpg

Awww, I'd have thought your last name might be Tooshie or Tushie. Why not? :/

[Spyder73]

Roast me


I ain't got no motherfucking friends. That's why I fucked your bitch, you fat motherfucker. After Math, Dragon killers. You know who the realest is. We bring it too. Take pixels, take pixels!

First off, fuck your bitch and the clique you claim
ToV when we ride, come equipped with game
You claim to be a player, but I fucked your wife
We bust on BDA, nerds fucked for life
Plus Trollololol trying to see me, weak hearts I rip
Juvento and Junior C.H.E.S.T. some mark-ass bitches
We keep on coming while we running for your jewels
Steady gunning, keep on busting at them fools
You know the rules
Rebbon go ask your homie how I'll leave you
Cut your young ass up, leave you in pieces, now be deceased
Kushie, don't fuck around with real G's
Quick to snatch your ugly ass off the streets
So fuck peace! I'll let them nerds know it's on for life
Don't let Wu’Tang ride the night
BDA murdered on wax and killed
Fuck with me and get your caps peeled
You know
Grab your cocks when you see Wu’Tang
Call the GM’s when you see Wu’Tang
Who shot me, but your punks didn't finish
Now you about to feel the wrath of a menace
BDA, I hit 'em up

[nectarprime]

I ain't got no motherfucking friends. That's why I fucked your bitch, you fat motherfucker. After Math, Dragon killers. You know who the realest is. We bring it too. Take pixels, take pixels!

First off, fuck your bitch and the clique you claim
ToV when we ride, come equipped with game
You claim to be a player, but I fucked your wife
We bust on BDA, nerds fucked for life
Plus Trollololol trying to see me, weak hearts I rip
Juvento and Junior C.H.E.S.T. some mark-ass bitches
We keep on coming while we running for your jewels
Steady gunning, keep on busting at them fools
You know the rules
Rebbon go ask your homie how I'll leave you
Cut your young ass up, leave you in pieces, now be deceased
Kushie, don't fuck around with real G's
Quick to snatch your ugly ass off the streets
So fuck peace! I'll let them nerds know it's on for life
Don't let Wu’Tang ride the night
BDA murdered on wax and killed
Fuck with me and get your caps peeled
You know
Grab your cocks when you see Wu’Tang
Call the GM’s when you see Wu’Tang
Who shot me, but your punks didn't finish
Now you about to feel the wrath of a menace
BDA, I hit 'em up

this is the saddest most cringey thing I have ever read

[Spyder73]

this is the saddest most cringey thing I have ever read

Spent literally about 25 seconds googling and changing 5-10 words - if this is the cringiest thing you have ever read then I humbly invite you to search for some of my original novelettes that can be found in my post history - The Adventures of Tekilya Wu'Tang and Filbus Furyfoot

[nectarprime]

Spent literally about 25 seconds googling and changing 5-10 words - if this is the cringiest thing you have ever read then I humbly invite you to search for some of my original novelettes that can be found in my post history - The Adventures of Tekilya Wu'Tang and Filbus Furyfoot

im ded

<3

[Chaboo_Cleric]

Join red today!

[Relbaic]

Got on Phinigel last night myself, killed like 20 blue-white cons, got about 8% of a level at level 6. That solo EXP, so bad!

We have alts, look us up! Can smash crushbone at that level!

[AzzarTheGod]

Katta and the surrounding areas are confirmed unfinished concepts by Brad and Luclin devs, they never finished Luclin.

Going through those zones in classic you could feel that we only got half of what Luclin was going to be. Could you imagine if we got FULL LUCLIN? Yikes, can you say most ambitious expac in MMO history to date, ever.

It was such a massive time in MMO history. Easily the golden age of EQ.

whoo boy das hot...wonder if these guys will experience that.

[Mead]

Solo exp sucks indeed. Don't solo on Phinigel.

This. Solo exp is real bad. Grouping is still very healthy.

[Hoozi]

I ain't got no motherfucking friends. That's why I fucked your bitch, you fat motherfucker. After Math, Dragon killers. You know who the realest is. We bring it too. Take pixels, take pixels!

First off, fuck your bitch and the clique you claim
ToV when we ride, come equipped with game
You claim to be a player, but I fucked your wife
We bust on BDA, nerds fucked for life
Plus Trollololol trying to see me, weak hearts I rip
Juvento and Junior C.H.E.S.T. some mark-ass bitches
We keep on coming while we running for your jewels
Steady gunning, keep on busting at them fools
You know the rules
Rebbon go ask your homie how I'll leave you
Cut your young ass up, leave you in pieces, now be deceased
Kushie, don't fuck around with real G's
Quick to snatch your ugly ass off the streets
So fuck peace! I'll let them nerds know it's on for life
Don't let Wu’Tang ride the night
BDA murdered on wax and killed
Fuck with me and get your caps peeled
You know
Grab your cocks when you see Wu’Tang
Call the GM’s when you see Wu’Tang
Who shot me, but your punks didn't finish
Now you about to feel the wrath of a menace
BDA, I hit 'em up

Please to ban again.

[Chaboo_Cleric]

Join red today!

[arsenalpow]

mask and bow x3 from AoW, not a fan

[Ella`Ella]

I ain't got no motherfucking friends. That's why I fucked your bitch, you fat motherfucker. After Math, Dragon killers. You know who the realest is. We bring it too. Take pixels, take pixels!

First off, fuck your bitch and the clique you claim
ToV when we ride, come equipped with game
You claim to be a player, but I fucked your wife
We bust on BDA, nerds fucked for life
Plus Trollololol trying to see me, weak hearts I rip
Juvento and Junior C.H.E.S.T. some mark-ass bitches
We keep on coming while we running for your jewels
Steady gunning, keep on busting at them fools
You know the rules
Rebbon go ask your homie how I'll leave you
Cut your young ass up, leave you in pieces, now be deceased
Kushie, don't fuck around with real G's
Quick to snatch your ugly ass off the streets
So fuck peace! I'll let them nerds know it's on for life
Don't let Wu’Tang ride the night
BDA murdered on wax and killed
Fuck with me and get your caps peeled
You know
Grab your cocks when you see Wu’Tang
Call the GM’s when you see Wu’Tang
Who shot me, but your punks didn't finish
Now you about to feel the wrath of a menace
BDA, I hit 'em up

No one reads your fan fiction.

[bdastomper58]

who would have guessed that BDAs final revenge would be an endless fountain of shitposts

[AzzarTheGod]

who would have guessed that BDAs final revenge would be an endless fountain of shitposts

sounds more like our pal pokesan now. no way an imposter is this good at being pokesan. its not fucking possible.

[khanable]

What's with the crazy particle weapons on phinny?? Do they drop out of era loot or something? Wtf is that poking stick, Kushie?

[Daldaen]

Stupid marketplace weapon ornaments.

[arsenalpow]

Kushie's are relatively tame. Doab is by far the worst one when it comes to stupid ornamental crap. We found out on Friday that some decorative crap he had was lagging out the entire raid.

[khanable]

Ornaments? Is that just like a weapon skin?

So Kushie could be running around with a big dick skin on a rusty rapier?? Lol

That's kinda neat I guess

[Bruno]

Ornaments? Is that just like a weapon skin?

So Kushie could be running around with a big dick skin on a rusty rapier?? Lol

That's kinda neat I guess

Yup.

[Relbaic]

Ornaments? Is that just like a weapon skin?

So Kushie could be running around with a big dick skin on a rusty rapier?? Lol

That's kinda neat I guess

Had to change how my Palladius Axe looked because I ain't running around with no lame ass Executioner Axe model.

[maskedmelon]

I have long loved costumes, but have mixed feelings about hem in EQ. I feel the price of vanity is an intrinsic part of Norrath. Not willing to pay up? Fine, look like shit. ^^

[khysanth]

EQ died when they added armor dyes :(

[khysanth]

the guild i was in on live literally made tanks / clerics / dps all wear a certain color

[Daldaen]

I seem to recall one of the marketplace sets they released would crash people because of the particle effects they had when they launched. That's since been fixed, but it doesn't change how dumb it is.

That is one of the big things that I hate about live, and all modern MMOs for that matter. The pushing of Microtransactions that they try to claim as not buying power. Yet they're more than happy to let you buy Mounts that save you in-game plat, EXP Potions that let you expedite the leveling process, Salvage Potions that let you trivialize tradeskilling, and stupid Fashionquest shit that belongs in Barbie's Island Adventure.

It's fortunate they limit TLPs somewhat in what they can buy, but it's still really fucking dumb. People pay subscriptions to make sure developers continue to work on the game and servers get the necessary maintenance. Everything else should be available through gameplay not some stupid cash shop.

/rabblerabblerabble

[maskedmelon]

Third-person MMOs are just digital doll houses. Whether you care about what they where or are more interested in their metrics and construction, you are still playing with dolls.

[indiscriminate_hater]

Ornaments? Is that just like a weapon skin?

So Kushie could be running around with a big dick skin on a rusty rapier?? Lol

That's kinda neat I guess

heheh. "rusty"

[khanable]

Natures melody is just a rapier right?

[Man0warr]

It's fortunate they limit TLPs somewhat in what they can buy, but it's still really fucking dumb. People pay subscriptions to make sure developers continue to work on the game and servers get the necessary maintenance. Everything else should be available through gameplay not some stupid cash shop.

/rabblerabblerabble

I'm positive Daybreak slowed down Phinny's solo exp rate (compared to Ragefire/Lockjaw) just to sell more exp pots. Phinny is their cash cow.

Exp rate in groups is still pretty fast though - maybe they just wanted to force people to group for more classic feel.

[jcr4990]

they just wanted to force people to group for more classic feel.

That was my thought. I'm a big fan of encouraging people to group. I really hated how solo/duo was the only real option to get fast xp on P99. I wanted to gouge my eyes out nearly every time I was in a 6 man xp group.

[Spyder73]

A fine steel rapier.

Funny how Kushie always bids on the penis shaped weapons.

[bdastomper58]

Funny how Kushie always bids on the penis shaped weapons.

you a pencil dick

















pics

[Daldaen]

That was my thought. I'm a big fan of encouraging people to group. I really hated how solo/duo was the only real option to get fast xp on P99. I wanted to gouge my eyes out nearly every time I was in a 6 man xp group.

This really frustrates me. I don't want to group to get EXP. But on Phinigel it seems EXP isn't split at all so you're encouraged to play an extremely minor part in a 6-man group and earn the same exp as an enchanter who is working his ass off charm killing his way through a dungeon.

Killing 3 blues solo for 1% exp pre-level 10 is so retarded.

Soloing damn well should return better exp than grouping because a single player is doing all of the work. It's a shame it doesn't on Phinigel.

[nectarprime]

Man, it's almost like the progression servers are fucking awful. Who would have thought?

[Spyder73]

Spyder confirmed needledick

Keep projecting - I am not the one who plays with penis shaped weapons on elm sim.

[bdastomper58]

Keep projecting - I am not the one who plays with penis shaped weapons on elm sim.

dick be like uncooked spaghetti

[bdastomper58]

rock hard & high density nutritious?

needa whole bowl to be nourished by that noodle shaft

[arsenalpow]

Man, it's almost like the progression servers are fucking awful. Who would have thought?

Gonna kill Doze and half of NToV tonight, server is pretty bad.

[nectarprime]

Gonna kill Doze and half of NToV tonight, server is pretty bad.

I don't know what's more sad, the red players that post here or the people that play live that post here.

[Chaboo_Cleric]

Join red today!

[Hoozi]

I don't know what's more sad, the red players that post here or the people that play live that post here.

You mean the people that this thread is specifically about? How dare they post here.

[maskedmelon]

Technically this thread should be moved to OT since it not about P99 ^^

[skarlorn]

Roast me

http://i.imgur.com/VmhNcXb.jpg

U a giant in the fire my boy






Succ me papi

[entruil]

i realize more and more im in the wrong place...

[skarlorn]

i realize more and more im in the wrong place...

U mean on bda thread, p99, or life in general?

I think all three can apply every Fire giant here

#woke

[AzzarTheGod]

U mean on bda thread, p99, or life in general?

I think all three can apply every Fire giant here

#woke

bruh is that u. sounds like u

[jcr4990]

This really frustrates me. I don't want to group to get EXP. But on Phinigel it seems EXP isn't split at all so you're encouraged to play an extremely minor part in a 6-man group and earn the same exp as an enchanter who is working his ass off charm killing his way through a dungeon.

Killing 3 blues solo for 1% exp pre-level 10 is so retarded.

Soloing damn well should return better exp than grouping because a single player is doing all of the work. It's a shame it doesn't on Phinigel.

EQ wasn't designed to be a single player game. I don't think any of the original EQ devs ever intended for a solo enc or a mnk/shm or clr/enc duo or whatever else to be night and day better xp than forming an actual group. It's disgusting how heavily encouraged solo/duo is on P99 imo.

Different strokes

[Detoxx]

EQ wasn't designed to be a single player game. I don't think any of the original EQ devs ever intended for a solo enc or a mnk/shm or clr/enc duo or whatever else to be night and day better xp than forming an actual group. It's disgusting how heavily encouraged solo/duo is on P99 imo.

Different strokes

So scaling the exp to be better for the less people involved in killing EXP mobs was just something they did for fun? Seems to me that breaking exp down in that manner was done for that exact reason...to award better exp for tougher kills.

[LostCause]

only reason they lowered xp rate is so you buy xp pots or use points to buy xp pots

then claim "classic xp"

[nhdjoseywales]

it's kind of stupid to bitch about xp rates and whether solo or group is better. isnt the goal to get to max level and do the real fun stuff? in that case who gives a fuck what method is better, just do the faster way and be done with it. join a group with a couple out of group 60's helping and get them levels son.

[arsenalpow]

And exp will be really easy to come by when Luclin drops. People will be grinding AAs, so you just level 40 and hang out with the 60s while they exp.

[Ella`Ella]

Approximately how much USD does it cost to get started on Phinny (i.e. Fungi, Epic, Full Resist Set, Xp potion, etc...)?

[arsenalpow]

Approximately how much USD does it cost to get started on Phinny (i.e. Fungi, Epic, Full Resist Set, Xp potion, etc...)?

Couldn't tell you USD because I haven't partaken, but fungis are like 5-6k which is essentially a krono, I don't really have a resist set because early on you're just dodging AEs and then once you're 60 and actually raiding you either easily power through them healers or straight up dodge (Zlexak for example) so there's no in between. Resist gear is dirt cheap though. I don't buy XP pots because daybreak will give you 3 a month that comes with your monthly sub.

[Daldaen]

EQ wasn't designed to be a single player game. I don't think any of the original EQ devs ever intended for a solo enc or a mnk/shm or clr/enc duo or whatever else to be night and day better xp than forming an actual group. It's disgusting how heavily encouraged solo/duo is on P99 imo.

Different strokes

It was designed as an adventure game. But everyone has a map, quest guide, mob descriptions etc. The adventure really isn't there for many veterans of the game.

Grouping has its place. Doing difficult camps, completing difficult quests and killings difficult named mobs.

But nothing is more boring than grinding EXP with no goal other than amassing EXP. Especially when that EXP is dependent on 5 other people being awake, carrying their weight, not being retarded or AFK. (I like to take AFKs on my time and soloing allows me to do that without hindering others)

Let people play the game to their style. Right now 6 People are better off soloing blue cons in a group together than they are ganging up and killing yellow/red cons. That's dumb. It's also dumb those 6 people get equal EXP to the solo chanter sweating every charm break, mez resist and lull critical failure. Dumbdumbdumb.

I am hoping during Luclin they change exp a bit so groups aren't so encouraged as a means to EXP. There are plenty of things in EQ and specifically Luclin that will encourage grouping. New Spells dropping in specific camps, VT Keys, LiS Earrings, Seru Keys, and plenty of drops in the Deep, Ssra, UP, and AR that can't be soloed. EXP comes as a byproduct for all of those so grouping is tolerable.

[derpcake]

dealing with random people sucks

people that deal with the general audience while at work can confirm this

no idea why this is hard to understand for devs

[maskedmelon]

dealing with random people sucks

people that deal with the general audience while at work can confirm this

no idea why this is hard to understand for devs

Yes, mmorpg developers need to take a lesson from social media. People don't actually want to interact with people they don't know, they just want a paltform to tell those they do know about themselves. We need gameplay integrated with a peronalized webpage including character sheets and live news feeds of achievements, like If PSN user profile and magelo shagged on MySpace.

[derpcake]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QHHg99hwQGY

interesting, starts a bit slow though

[Ravager]

https://www.everquest.com/membership

1 month is $14.99. The rest is not necessary or prudent, unless you suck at Everquest.
Confirmed that Kushie needs to pay to win EverQuest.

[Spyder73]

1 month is $14.99. The rest is not necessary or prudent, unless you suck at Everquest.

I did buy a fungi tunic and staff at level 30. It turned out to be a waste of $35 dollars when i could have farmed both items 2 weeks later.

[nectarprime]

Progression is the most pleb casual shit imaginable

[Ravager]

http://www.project1999.com/forums/misc.php?do=whoposted&t=241907

I'm about to beat Chest in shitposts. Who is most mad?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qb9RugcQd1k

[skarlorn]

bda offering power leveling to people coming over?

[nhdjoseywales]

double xp on phinny atm. great time to start

[skarlorn]

double xp on phinny atm. great time to start

can i roll hobbit ranger?

[Chaboo_Cleric]

Join red today!

[AzzarTheGod]

this skarlorn dude is a beast.

[Troubled]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DLzxX59peq8

[skarlorn]

I have heard a lot of BDA stuff since joining the servers. apparently there was a swish who says you guys ruined the raid scene nd that's why so many people have to poopsock now?

while i do have a guide to public defecation (https://www.project1999.com/forums/showthread.php?t=251819) i don't condone the type of behavior that leads a man to dishonor himself by shitting in a sock instead of in his trashcan at home.

i would like to know what bda has to say in regards to this. is it true you set up the raid scene for how it is today, by ruining it before, and now you have left because you were defeated in your own game by superior players like People from AfterM/Awakin

[burkemi5]

Bump. BDA taking the long weekend off of raiding? Filthy casuals. Here on p99 you bet your ass we're still tracking and racing to content that won't go any further. Gotta win dat Vulak #83.

[skarlorn]

what are ya watchin

[Sodors Finest Poster]

Still waiting for my App to BDA to get approved.

[Ravager]

Still waiting for my App to BDA to get approved.
I approve. Your duty is to recruit players to Phinny by means of this thread and praise Chest in all his glory. For each new warm body you recruit, you will be awarded a Krono* which can be used to buy raid rots from the officers.

Welcome to the guild.

*The Krono will be held on an officer controlled account. At any time you may donate 10k to the guild bank to have the Krono released to your possession.

[arsenalpow]

Tunare was generous last night, triple rogue dagger and one bard pokey.

[khysanth]

can't wait to play velious for another two or three years

[Nibblewitz]

Should be better than two or three years raiding daily for shadowcouncil points. Remember, only send a tell for loot you really want, or you will be placated with trash.

[khysanth]

pretty ignorant

[skarlorn]

how many station cash do it cost to make my tunare dagger look like a sweet banana

Great start, here's my revision. Pm me if this works for you




Hope everything In your life is terrific

[nhdjoseywales]

how many station cash do it cost to make my tunare dagger look like a sweet katana

few bucks or so. my myro and mht look like a matched pair of fire and ice bowie knives.

[sirelothar]

Showing off one of the daggers Tunare dropped yesterday along with a Claw of Lightning. Loots swimmin aplenty and free of feces on TLP.

http://i.imgur.com/6kp7ZGt.jpg

[khanable]

^ what did you make your surname?

[sirelothar]

Something harmless. Vapist.

[Raev]

Gonna guess it's either Prison Break (great show the first season, at least) or a Prison Enlargedmyanus kind of sex troll.

[SyanideGas]

Showing off one of the daggers Tunare dropped yesterday along with a Claw of Lightning. Loots swimmin aplenty and free of feces on TLP.

http://i.imgur.com/6kp7ZGt.jpg

#handsome4real

[entruil]

hope ur day is going delightfully friend

George Carlin - Have a nice day (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6X0MDBqyYZQ)

[nicemace]

Tunare was generous last night, triple rogue dagger and one bard pokey.

we got 2 daggers last week and 1 yesterday. our recruits are getting daggers for min bid dkp.

[skarlorn]

where is the value in items that are so easy to get? you guys are less like raiders and more liek cheap snakes pluggin rhinestones up the ass and calling it leet then shedding for another vagazzle

[arsenalpow]

Solid AoW loot tonight too, double BoC, pants, and helm.

Only our second pair of pants ever, too bad they went to an iksar.

[Troubled]

where is the value in items that are so easy to get? you guys are less like raiders and more liek cheap snakes pluggin rhinestones up the ass and calling it leet then shedding for another vagazzle

Good point bro. Get back to staring at your screen, scholar.

[Sodors Finest Poster]

Good thing Phinigel pixels dont matter like they do on p99.

I dont feel I am missing out on anything.

[randomhero401]

We keep getting constant pants on our AoW kills. 1 ring vs 6 or 7 pairs of pants

[arsenalpow]

We keep getting constant pants on our AoW kills. 1 ring vs 6 or 7 pairs of pants

Two weeks ago was triple ring + bow, then triple bow + ring.

AoW bows for days over here.

[randomhero401]

Two weeks ago was triple ring + bow, then triple bow + ring.

AoW bows for days over here.



Damn i think we got double bow on our first kill and luckily haven't seen very many drop after that. Maybe we can get some of your luck and get the triple ring $$

[arsenalpow]

So on Phinny Vulak always drops 4 pieces of loot along with ancient spells. Someone did some research and it turns out that Vulak has 4 distinct loot pools. You get 1 item from each of the 4 pools. What's your best 4 loot combo?

Pool 1
Crystasia's Crystal Ring
Kelsiferous' Armband of Artistry
Sal`Varae's Robe of Darkness
Solist's Earring of Insight
Ssra's Bloodstone Eyepatch

Pool 2
Rowyl's Metal Armguards
Yakatizma's Shield of Crafting
Hobart's War Helmet
Sirran's Boots of Insanity
Viik's Pauldrons of Pain
Akkirus' Mask of Warfare

Pool 3
Camii's Bracer of Vigor
Maclaer's Boots of Silence
Tolan's Longsword of the Glade
Do`Vassir's Gauntlets of Might
Palladius' Axe of Slaughter
Gharn's Rock of Smashing

Pool 4
Jaelen's Katana
Valtron's Necklace of Wonder
Mrylokar's Dagger of Vengeance
Vyrinn's Earring of Insanity
Brother Xave's Headband
Feeliux's Cord of Velocity
Abashi's Rod of Disempowerment

[Sodors Finest Poster]

What's your best 4 loot combo?


Dosn't matter since pixels don't matter on Phinigel

http://i.imgur.com/2MU1vEk.jpg

[zanderklocke]

Dosn't matter since pixels don't matter on Phinigel

http://i.imgur.com/2MU1vEk.jpg

I would argue that pixels don't matter in EverQuest unless in one-on-one combat. Even then, class probably has a bigger impact than equipment.

Theoretically, two high level players in shitty gear should always add more value than one high level player in good gear, assuming the same class composition.

[Nibblewitz]

Crowd-sourcing the loot council?

[derpcake]

Theoretically, two high level players in shitty gear should always add more value than one high level player in good gear, assuming the same class composition.

EQ doesn't work that way.

If gear wasn't important, people would run naked chars.

AE's (on raids) and space (dungeons) reduce the value of extra characters.

20 badly geared wars will not let you tank AoW.

When splitting loot you want to have as few players as possible.

And so on

[zanderklocke]

EQ doesn't work that way.

If gear wasn't important, people would run naked chars.

AE's (on raids) and space (dungeons) reduce the value of extra characters.

20 badly geared wars will not let you tank AoW.

When splitting loot you want to have as few players as possible.

And so on

I'll admit that some gear is useful and agree with you somewhat. To your points:

1. AEs are more detrimental when you have more players. Yes
2. Warriors absolutely need great gear for high end mobs. They (and specifically main tanks) probably are the one class that do receive more added value for gear per character than having multiple characters of the same class.
3. Splitting loot point. I think this is irrelevant. This is more how often people want to be rewarded and has little impact on effectiveness of playing the game to compete against other players or the mechanics of the environmental mobs.

However, on contrary. Without taking AE's into account or heaviest hitting mobs in the game and keeping player skill the same, which would have more output DPS: One rogue in very high end gear or two rogues in low to medium end gear? Alternatively, keeping player skill levels the same, would you rather have one cleric in high end gear or two clerics in low to medium end gear healing you?

I think your points are good, but overall in terms of gear mattering a lot, I think "it depends". Other games have much more noticeable different effects from equipment upgrades compared to Classic EverQuest.

[derpcake]

3. Splitting loot point. I think this is irrelevant. This is more how often people want to be rewarded and has little impact on effectiveness of playing the game to compete against other players or the mechanics of the environmental mobs.

However, on contrary. Without taking AE's into account or heaviest hitting mobs in the game and keeping player skill the same, which would have more output DPS: One rogue in very high end gear or two rogues in low to medium end gear? Alternatively, keeping player skill levels the same, would you rather have one cleric in high end gear or two clerics in low to medium end gear healing you?

This stuff just doesn't take the realities of EQ into account.

I'd rather have 1 high end cleric and one high end rogue with a sleepers tomb key, then 4 shitty ones and half of them having to sit out due to lack of key.

I'd also rather divide primals amongst 5 high end rogues, compared to 10 shitty ones.

Having 10 shitty rogues implies you need X bards and Y shamans, so you have to lower standards for those also, and it cascades into a crap guild from there.

[derpcake]

You also state "keeping player levels the same", guess what, there usually is a reason people have bad gear, and it isn't because they are all-star veterans.

Trust me on that.

[derpcake]

skill* levels :)

[nhdjoseywales]

I'll admit that some gear is useful and agree with you somewhat. To your points:

1. AEs are more detrimental when you have more players. Yes
2. Warriors absolutely need great gear for high end mobs. They (and specifically main tanks) probably are the one class that do receive more added value for gear per character than having multiple characters of the same class.
3. Splitting loot point. I think this is irrelevant. This is more how often people want to be rewarded and has little impact on effectiveness of playing the game to compete against other players or the mechanics of the environmental mobs.

However, on contrary. Without taking AE's into account or heaviest hitting mobs in the game and keeping player skill the same, which would have more output DPS: One rogue in very high end gear or two rogues in low to medium end gear? Alternatively, keeping player skill levels the same, would you rather have one cleric in high end gear or two clerics in low to medium end gear healing you?

I think your points are good, but overall in terms of gear mattering a lot, I think "it depends". Other games have much more noticeable different effects from equipment upgrades compared to Classic EverQuest.


it's like you dont understand basic math and how it affects mechanics. rogues with shitty gear will lack the atk needed to reliably hit a mob like vulak or aow and thus one high end rogue will indeed outdamage his two shittily geared companions. 1 cleric with sufficient mana regen and mana pool and heal foci will heal better than 2 shitty geared ones. 1 wizard with velk robe, id3 focus, and tons of mana regen will beat two shitty geared wizards that nuke 5 times and have to sit oom doing no dps while mr velk robe clicks away.

as for splits, why the fuck wouldnt you do them if you can? gee, 5 pieces of BiS loot this week guys or 10, hmm, thats fucking tough.

[mattydef]

I have 4 characters all fully epic'd in world of warcraft, get on my level scrubs.

[zanderklocke]

it's like you dont understand basic math and how it affects mechanics. rogues with shitty gear will lack the atk needed to reliably hit a mob like vulak or aow and thus one high end rogue will indeed outdamage his two shittily geared companions. 1 cleric with sufficient mana regen and mana pool and heal foci will heal better than 2 shitty geared ones. 1 wizard with velk robe, id3 focus, and tons of mana regen will beat two shitty geared wizards that nuke 5 times and have to sit oom doing no dps while mr velk robe clicks away.

as for splits, why the fuck wouldnt you do them if you can? gee, 5 pieces of BiS loot this week guys or 10, hmm, thats fucking tough.

Originally, when I made my argument about gear not mattering that much in EverQuest, I was actually thinking about other games like a shooter where having a rocket launcher vs a pistol would make a big difference. Whereas in EverQuest, gear doesn't fundamentally change game play that much. All casters of the same type have the same spells, and all melee of the same type have the same few options of skills. People just have higher or lower primary stats based on their gear.

In terms of loot splits, I said I don't care or cited irrelevance because how loot is distributed among players has no bearing on the programmed mechanics of the game. Yes, players want to get more loot spread out among few players, but that does not change the game design or mechanics programmed into the game.

However, I'm not mathematically convinced that, for all classes, output of one high-end character is going to be higher than two low-end to medium-end characters. I'd want to see logs that that melee DPS of one character was higher than melee DPS of two low-end characters of the same class. I have a hard time believing that one rogue will out damage two other rogue's summation of DPS. Likewise, I have a hard time believing that two clerics with lower-end gear will not a have a higher combined mana pool than one high end cleric. However, I will admit, I approach this problem with a Kunark mindset because I have not played a lot of Velious. I will believe you if I see mathematical proof or logs that verify your point.

[arsenalpow]

Got an abashi's last night, an excellent pulling tool. Also, Nev hates dropping her cloak, the warriors are getting restless.

[Daldaen]

Got an abashi's last night, an excellent pulling tool. Also, Nev hates dropping her cloak, the warriors are getting restless.

Every warrior worth his salt will replace that cloak with the loyalists shield anyways.

http://everquest.allakhazam.com/db/item.html?item=15971

High AC or GTFO.

I hated HP whoring tanks on live. They absolutely got crushed and were a waste of my time to group or raid with.

[zanderklocke]

Every warrior worth his salt will replace that cloak with the loyalists shield anyways.

http://everquest.allakhazam.com/db/item.html?item=15971

High AC or GTFO.

I hated HP whoring tanks on live. They absolutely got crushed and were a waste of my time to group or raid with.

I want to see you and Elethia do EQ mechanics trivia against each other. Can we make this an event?

I'll give either of you 5K as prize money for who gets the most questions correct.

[arsenalpow]

Most people have been using eqitems.com to figure what their loot plan should be for each expansion. It has a weird algorithm to rate stuff though. Like the Koi net seems much higher than it should be rating-wise

[Raev]

You also state "keeping player levels the same", guess what, there usually is a reason people have bad gear, and it isn't because they are all-star veterans.

This is probably the real reason. People that are good will tend to have good gear.

Also, Zanderr mostly played in Kunark, where gear simply doesn't matter. All of the bosses have 32K HP, so buy some resist gear and go to town. Velious starts to change this; an NTOV/primal monk is probably 50% better offensively and at least that much defensively than a HOT/epic/SoS monk. Casters still don't get much, but that should change with focus items in Luclin and PoP.

Of course, that doesn't really matter when you can zerg encounters with an unlimited number of players. It's nicer to split pixels among a smaller number of players, but the zerg guilds can still be successful until raid limits, which is . . PoP?

[Daldaen]

It doesn't have rating of items but this website is incredible for gear-planning if you're unfamiliar with the content:

http://www.raidloot.com/Stats.aspx

Also their spell parser is far better than Lucy/Allakhazam's.

[zanderklocke]

Velious starts to change this; an NTOV/primal monk is probably 50% better offensively and at least that much defensively than a HOT/epic/SoS monk. Casters still don't get much, but that should change with focus items in Luclin and PoP.

Of course, that doesn't really matter when you can zerg encounters with an unlimited number of players. It's nicer to split pixels among a smaller number of players, but the zerg guilds can still be successful until raid limits, which is . . PoP?

Hey, 50% better is only 1.5 monks rather than 2, so 2 average geared monks at level 60 are still better in DPS output than 1 Sleepers/NToV monk! :p

Seriously though, Velious is still a numbers game. There's a reason AoW doesn't go down each week. I think SoE finally figured out what made challenging and interesting encounters with Planes of Power.

[nhdjoseywales]

Originally, when I made my argument about gear not mattering that much in EverQuest, I was actually thinking about other games like a shooter where having a rocket launcher vs a pistol would make a big difference. Whereas in EverQuest, gear doesn't fundamentally change game play that much. All casters of the same type have the same spells, and all melee of the same type have the same few options of skills. People just have higher or lower primary stats based on their gear.

In terms of loot splits, I said I don't care or cited irrelevance because how loot is distributed among players has no bearing on the programmed mechanics of the game. Yes, players want to get more loot spread out among few players, but that does not change the game design or mechanics programmed into the game.

However, I'm not mathematically convinced that, for all classes, output of one high-end character is going to be higher than two low-end to medium-end characters. I'd want to see logs that that melee DPS of one character was higher than melee DPS of two low-end characters of the same class. I have a hard time believing that one rogue will out damage two other rogue's summation of DPS. Likewise, I have a hard time believing that two clerics with lower-end gear will not a have a higher combined mana pool than one high end cleric. However, I will admit, I approach this problem with a Kunark mindset because I have not played a lot of Velious. I will believe you if I see mathematical proof or logs that verify your point.

So you admit you actually dont know what the fuck you are talking about in respect to current and upcoming content and are basing this on Kunark. Thats like saying no major league player can hit home runs because the kids i play tball with cant. When you get to mobs that dont die in 38 seconds then things like atk, mana regen and clickies start to matter a lot more. as an example, we do vulak splits with 35ish people each week. it takes roughly 30-45 minutes to kill him if i remember correctly. compare that to the one time we did him with alts for an extra abashi and that took nearly 2 hours. we were only able to succeed because we threw a shit ton of healers at the fight. if we tried with our normal 35 number we would have failed because we lacked the dps to kill him before all healers ran out of mana. This is a decent comparison between hot/epic geared toons vs ntov/primal toons.

[bdastomper58]

So you admit you actually dont know what the fuck you are talking about in respect to current and upcoming content and are basing this on Kunark. Thats like saying no major league player can hit home runs because the kids i play tball with cant. When you get to mobs that dont die in 38 seconds then things like atk, mana regen and clickies start to matter a lot more. as an example, we do vulak splits with 35ish people each week. it takes roughly 30-45 minutes to kill him if i remember correctly. compare that to the one time we did him with alts for an extra abashi and that took nearly 2 hours. we were only able to succeed because we threw a shit ton of healers at the fight. if we tried with our normal 35 number we would have failed because we lacked the dps to kill him before all healers ran out of mana. This is a decent comparison between hot/epic geared toons vs ntov/primal toons.

[zanderklocke]

So you admit you actually dont know what the fuck you are talking about in respect to current and upcoming content and are basing this on Kunark. Thats like saying no major league player can hit home runs because the kids i play tball with cant. When you get to mobs that dont die in 38 seconds then things like atk, mana regen and clickies start to matter a lot more. as an example, we do vulak splits with 35ish people each week. it takes roughly 30-45 minutes to kill him if i remember correctly. compare that to the one time we did him with alts for an extra abashi and that took nearly 2 hours. we were only able to succeed because we threw a shit ton of healers at the fight. if we tried with our normal 35 number we would have failed because we lacked the dps to kill him before all healers ran out of mana. This is a decent comparison between hot/epic geared toons vs ntov/primal toons.

I don't understand what you're talking about with the baseball part in comparison to my original point. Are you saying professional base ball players are analogous to Velious, and t-ball players are analogous to Kunark?

Were there 70 alts at the Vulak fight who were not geared well? I need to know how many alts there were to understand if you are saying twice as many low-end to mid-end geared raiders is not more effective.

So if I understand right, you are arguing your raid would be more effective in terms of output damage and heal values with 35 high-end geared raiders than 70 low-end to mid-end geared raiders?

[Jfertal]

I don't understand what you're talking about with the baseball part in comparison to my original point. Are you saying professional base ball players are analogous to Velious, and t-ball players are analogous to Kunark?

Were there 70 alts at the Vulak fight who were not geared well? I need to know how many alts there were to understand if you are saying twice as many low-end to mid-end geared raiders is not more effective.

So if I understand right, you are arguing your raid would be more effective in terms of output damage and heal values with 35 high-end geared raiders than 70 low-end to mid-end geared raiders?

Id most definitely take 35 over the 70. You are basing most of your opinions based off p99, which is a great dun server, but in the end its a emulated server at best, dealing with volunteers and old information.

[derpcake]

Anyone that has ever been an officer in a competitive guild will appreciate how much easier it is to take care of 35 people compared to 70.

Split raiding will lead to people complaining they are "on the B team".

When learning events, its way better to have people with high RA. I always took the high RA people into the expedition first, because they had done the new events more often and were simply better at them.

Silly discussion.

[derpcake]

Doesn't Vulak AE lifetap?

[LostCause]

you can have high RA and still be a bad player

[derpcake]

you can have high RA and still be a bad player

bad is relative

a bad cleric can be put into a CH rotation

its not because he is slow on heals and doesn't make the right calls on which heals to use, that he can't count and cast CH

a bad cleric with great gear and top RA is preferable to a great cleric with shit gear and RA in velious

[zanderklocke]

The question I'm trying to get at is what potentially mathematically outputs a higher damage value in terms of specific, measurable numbers: 35 rogues in high-end gear or 70 rogues in low-end to mid-end gear?

I'm not asking about managing players as officers or looking at variance in player skills. I'm asking this question from a theoretical controlled environment and am asking about the mathematical data. Does gear matter so much in EverQuest that mathematical output of player in high-end gear surpass mathematical output of two players in low-end to medium-end gear? Obviously, it does vary by class, but I'm using rogues as an example to look at because the role's purpose is DPS and can be measured with a mathematical value.

From a mathematical perspective in a theoretical, controlled environment, does the value of one high-end rogue surpass total mathematical output of DPS surpass the total mathematical output of 2 low-end to medium-end rogues?

[derpcake]

2 wood elf cheer leaders are more impressive then 1

i hope this answers your question

[zanderklocke]

Yep. I'm satisfied.

[skarlorn]

would i prefer 2 wood elves giving erotic massage or 1 really good wood elf

[Anichek]

What the fuck, it's the 14th and this bump brings this thread back alive from a 3 day vacation?

[TotallyLegit]

What the fuck, it's the 14th and this bump brings this thread back alive from a 3 day vacation?

Bump by BDA....what a fucking surprise.

[xKoopa]

Can we just let this thread die like bda?

[Spyder73]

I think this is a good opportunity for the community to recap personal stories about BDA. I will start story time off.

I met a guy while I was leveling up and we became fast friends. I was new to the server and he was a little more established, so he helped me out with loot like Trace Sticks, executioners hood, advise where to level, ports, stuff of that nature. Well he did his research and thought that a guild called <Asgard> was going to be the best fit for him. He played A LOT more than me and ended up out leveling me pretty significantly. So after he joined and became a full member he told me that once I got 46 I could also join – well Pint is such a nice guy he invited me to the guild when I was only level 30 despite the level 46 requirement. I was so happy to be in a guild that I quickly leveled out to 46 and started raiding. Was so much fun! I received my haste belt and some planar gear from Fear/Sky, we killed Cazic Thule and Trakanon pretty early on in my Asgard days – things were looking up for Tekilya Wu’Tang. Then I met BDA/Taken….

I had no idea how the rotation worked at first but slowly started figuring it out. In Asgard we would field 25-40 man raid forces typically. For Kunark this was a great turnout and all that was really needed. Sometimes we would join up with Azure Guard and other guilds to kill targets when we or they needed a bit of help, but overall there was a strong since of community and guild identity….And then Lord Chest Rockwell <Bregen D’Aerth> decided to watch it all burn.

I am not going to go into server history, but Taken and BDA were both gaming the system by not joining TMO/IB in class C raiding. They had just as many raiders (if not significantly more in some cases) in their guild as TMO and IB, but they did not want to compete with them – it was “impossible”. It got to the point where Taken and BDA had 100 man forces showing up to targets like Venril Sathir – The zergs were starving for pixels due to over inflation of numbers – I distinctly remember 350 people in Feerot for a Dracko spawn…. So about a year prior to Velious launching Chest teams up with Taken to destroy the rotation instead of moving to class C. They say we need to “sharpen our swords” for Velious since it will be FFA at launch. This is horse sh!t, BDA saw the other guilds as “inferior” and “undeserving” of loot. For quite some time BDA uses bullying tactics, cheating, numbers, and numerous other tactics so that they can try to split loot with Taken on a 50/50 basis. The forums erupt in outrage since they are destroying any “casual vibe” the server ever had. Now it is 100% “NO BATHROOM BREAKS – USE YOUR SOCKS INCEL OR YOUR F#CKED”.

Much to the chagrin of the zerg, <Asgard> is still doing work and we get some pretty highly contested targets. The shame of all this is Asgard/AG are really the only guilds who pulled through the fall of the rotation, the other guilds basically stopped raiding or assumed roles within the zerg.

Velious launches – Asgard rises to glory – BDA falls to sh!t and gets cucked off the server due to no one wanting to team with them – and the rest my friends is history.

TLDR: Chest destoryed the rotation due to greed

[Spyder73]

But just to clarify - i refuse to participate in raiding in its current incarnation - so maybe BDA isnt so bad after all. The real server cancer intentionally stays much more hidden and out of sight.

[arsenalpow]

Didn't read a single word

[Swish]

I think this is a good opportunity for the community to recap personal stories about BDA. I will start story time off.

I met a guy while I was leveling up and we became fast friends. I was new to the server and he was a little more established, so he helped me out with loot like Trace Sticks, executioners hood, advise where to level, ports, stuff of that nature. Well he did his research and thought that a guild called <Asgard> was going to be the best fit for him. He played A LOT more than me and ended up out leveling me pretty significantly. So after he joined and became a full member he told me that once I got 46 I could also join – well Pint is such a nice guy he invited me to the guild when I was only level 30 despite the level 46 requirement. I was so happy to be in a guild that I quickly leveled out to 46 and started raiding. Was so much fun! I received my haste belt and some planar gear from Fear/Sky, we killed Cazic Thule and Trakanon pretty early on in my Asgard days – things were looking up for Tekilya Wu’Tang. Then I met BDA/Taken….

I had no idea how the rotation worked at first but slowly started figuring it out. In Asgard we would field 25-40 man raid forces typically. For Kunark this was a great turnout and all that was really needed. Sometimes we would join up with Azure Guard and other guilds to kill targets when we or they needed a bit of help, but overall there was a strong since of community and guild identity….And then Lord Chest Rockwell <Bregen D’Aerth> decided to watch it all burn.

I am not going to go into server history, but Taken and BDA were both gaming the system by not joining TMO/IB in class C raiding. They had just as many raiders (if not significantly more in some cases) in their guild as TMO and IB, but they did not want to compete with them – it was “impossible”. It got to the point where Taken and BDA had 100 man forces showing up to targets like Venril Sathir – The zergs were starving for pixels due to over inflation of numbers – I distinctly remember 350 people in Feerot for a Dracko spawn…. So about a year prior to Velious launching Chest teams up with Taken to destroy the rotation instead of moving to class C. They say we need to “sharpen our swords” for Velious since it will be FFA at launch. This is horse sh!t, BDA saw the other guilds as “inferior” and “undeserving” of loot. For quite some time BDA uses bullying tactics, cheating, numbers, and numerous other tactics so that they can try to split loot with Taken on a 50/50 basis. The forums erupt in outrage since they are destroying any “casual vibe” the server ever had. Now it is 100% “NO BATHROOM BREAKS – USE YOUR SOCKS INCEL OR YOUR F#CKED”.

Much to the chagrin of the zerg, <Asgard> is still doing work and we get some pretty highly contested targets. The shame of all this is Asgard/AG are really the only guilds who pulled through the fall of the rotation, the other guilds basically stopped raiding or assumed roles within the zerg.

Velious launches – Asgard rises to glory – BDA falls to sh!t and gets cucked off the server due to no one wanting to team with them – and the rest my friends is history.

TLDR: Chest destoryed the rotation due to greed

The BDA story is a great one isnt it? Started as one of the most respected guilds on the server with a great reputation (pre-Kunark) then they progressively took a shit on themselves for "casual" raid pixels and managed to lock in a guaranteed pixel system for a long time.

As soon as Velious hit and there was no more system for them it became clear they couldnt compete, they started losing members who knew there were better and less corrupt guilds to play with that were actually clearing meaningful content...but rather than admit they sucked against real competition they retreated to an INSTANCED raid server where they wouldnt look like a shower of shit.

...oh yeah, and they keep us informed on how their own instanced Norrath is going. Thumbs up guys, you win a special prize in the hearts and minds of the community here. I hope Norrath_2827 is treating you well ;)

[khysanth]

Didn't read a single word

and all it took was a simple bump bait to get paragraphs of salt

[Ravager]

The BDA story is a great one isnt it? Started as one of the most respected guilds on the server with a great reputation (pre-Kunark) then they progressively took a shit on themselves for "casual" raid pixels and managed to lock in a guaranteed pixel system for a long time.

As soon as Velious hit and there was no more system for them it became clear they couldnt compete, they started losing members who knew there were better and less corrupt guilds to play with that were actually clearing meaningful content...but rather than admit they sucked against real competition they retreated to an INSTANCED raid server where they wouldnt look like a shower of shit.

...oh yeah, and they keep us informed on how their own instanced Norrath is going. Thumbs up guys, you win a special prize in the hearts and minds of the community here. I hope Norrath_2827 is treating you well ;)
How long have you been waiting to post this from your BDA diary that you kept under your pillow while you were forum suspended?

[jcr4990]

The BDA story is a great one isnt it? Started as one of the most respected guilds on the server with a great reputation (pre-Kunark) then they progressively took a shit on themselves for "casual" raid pixels and managed to lock in a guaranteed pixel system for a long time.

As soon as Velious hit and there was no more system for them it became clear they couldnt compete, they started losing members who knew there were better and less corrupt guilds to play with that were actually clearing meaningful content...but rather than admit they sucked against real competition they retreated to an INSTANCED raid server where they wouldnt look like a shower of shit.

...oh yeah, and they keep us informed on how their own instanced Norrath is going. Thumbs up guys, you win a special prize in the hearts and minds of the community here. I hope Norrath_2827 is treating you well ;)

Lot of talk coming from a guy with 14.5k forum posts that knows the forum rules like the back of his hand and openly and blatantly broke one of the most well known rules there is and got himself suspended for being a shithead.

You will never live it down Swish. I promise. Might as well retire this account (For real this time) and start fresh. Just try not to repeat the same boring BDA bullshit that literally nobody else cares about over and over again ad nauseam or people will instantly know who it is.

[Raev]

Can we just let this thread die like bda?

Never! This thread is my Mona Lisa.

Also I'm waiting on those Luclin updates! Isn't it supposed to be out very soon?

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[derpcake]

The BDA story is a great one isnt it?

No it isn't.

I could post a story about how I got a Triality guildleader banned from Eqlive, when EQ had about 400x the amount of players blue does.

Noone gives a fuck. Except the people without lives profiting from the situation, that is.