ASOIAF / Game of Thrones (SPOILERS INSIDE)

[Sirken]

When he finishes a series or whatever I do. Not each time

I'll definitely watch the dornish one in full after he finishes it. I HOPE to God he's right about Dorne playing a role and GRRM isn't just making that storyline ancillary filler like in the show. Also, he better not just have Aegon get wrecked easily. I'm really hoping for chaos, a good story, and a bittersweet ending that doesn't see Jon or Dany on the throne

Oh yeah and before all of that I'm hoping we actually get a book 6 at some point...

I agree with everything that you just said.

and we'll get book 6. Book 7 however, that might get outsourced to Brandon Sanderson lol

[Sirken]

just so we are clear, u are aware that was a list of youtube channels not a list of books right??

id make the same post about someone with 20 lord of the rings youtube subscriptions. sick shit

8*

[Patriam1066]

I agree with everything that you just said.

and we'll get book 6. Book 7 however, that might get outsourced to Brandon Sanderson lol

I don't know man I'm dying here waiting for TWoW. I'm guessing it's gonna be 2,000 pages though, so at least there's that

[Sirken]

1996, 1998, 2000, 2005, 2011, 2018

2018 fits the scheme.

but, that would mean 2026 for book 7 :(

[AenorVZ]

and we'll get book 6. Book 7 however, that might get outsourced to Brandon Sanderson lol

TAKE IT BACK I WENT BLIND ALKFOALISJDFAOLISDFLIKASDLFKASDLFK

[AenorVZ]

1996, 1998, 2000 ...

The roll this guy was on ...

[xKoopa]

I agree with everything that you just said.

and we'll get book 6. Book 7 however, that might get outsourced to Brandon Sanderson lol

I wish.. i feel like GoT is too vulgar for him though. His writing is generally really pg13 compared to alot of modern fantasy

[Sirken]

I wish.. i feel like GoT is too vulgar for him though. His writing is generally really pg13 compared to alot of modern fantasy

oh i was just making jokes ;)

I will patiently wait for my books, but I will not quietly wait!

just gonna stalk youtube for info until summer. already lots of juicy shit from watchers on the wall ;)

[AenorVZ]

The Stannis stuff seemed pretty improbable but I think listening to Preston obsess over the sample chapters it's more believable.

[Sirken]

I just have a hard time believing that the greatest living military strategist in westeros is going to March off into that situation. Stannis planning something with that lake. I don't know what it is, but there's a trick up that man's sleeve. He might still die in the book, but I think the show just rushed his character out because the actor didn't give a shit about the show.

Also, Preston's new dorne video is out ;)

[AenorVZ]

Preston is such a tease. There weren't any really juicy bits on Marwyn.

[Sirken]

i think the issue with that is that Marwyn was only in book 4 iirc, and that was released in 2006 iirc, which means we've all already had 10 years to go over the Marwyn stuff with nothing new added.

but to be fair, theres a ton of stories and theories surrounding Marwyn. i think hes one of the most interesting characters, and im terrified the show will just water him down.

[AenorVZ]

They'll probably have a sand snake kill him after telling him he needs a bad pussy.

[Sirken]

i actually would be super shocked if all 3 sand snakes survive this season

[AzzarTheGod]

All of the sand snakes are alive on the show? Jeez shows how much I paid attention.

I wrote all of Dorne off after the first episode.

[Sirken]

All of the sand snakes are alive on the show? Jeez shows how much I paid attention.

I wrote all of Dorne off after the first episode.

define "all"

there's 8 in the book, and 3 on the show. so far none of them are dead anywhere.
but they fucked up dorne so badly, i assume that when Dany's sides takes losses it's going to start with the sorry excuse for the sand snakes that the show gave us.

[Sirken]

so, photo leaks from set imply that Jorah will be rejoining Dany in Dragonstone.

do you think they will have magically cured the greyscale? and if so, what was even the point of giving it to him? especially if they never planned on doing the Jon Connington & Aegon story. I just don't see the point, it does nothing for his character growth, it does nothing to progress the story.

curious on thoughts though, maybe i missed something?

[AenorVZ]

No big surprise. It's just character conservation. Show watchers know who Jorah is so they don't have to introduce a new character. Shit's so far off book now they're just making it up as they go along. I'm sure they have a general idea how it ends and there will be more spoilers like the Children being the creators of the Others. But Preston can stop waiting for the Dornish Master Plan to materialize on the show. It ain't happening. The best we can hope for is more good flashbacks to flesh out the story and an epic ending.

[big_ole_jpn]

No big surprise. It's just character conservation. Show watchers know who Jorah is so they don't have to introduce a new character. Shit's so far off book now they're just making it up as they go along. I'm sure they have a general idea how it ends and there will be more spoilers like the Children being the creators of the Others. But Preston can stop waiting for the Dornish Master Plan to materialize on the show. It ain't happening. The best we can hope for is more good flashbacks to flesh out the story and an epic ending.

Bingo. The slaughtering characters paradigm is no longer profitable now that the show reached Facebookian critical mass (or not worth the risk anyway).

[Sirken]

could it be...

could HBO finally be doing it...

did IMDB screw up, or are they trolling the shit out of us (check this imdb link for S7 E1 - http://www.imdb.com/title/tt5654088/?ref_=tt_eps_cu_n )

and this - https://youtu.be/dXbrQTlGO8w

[AenorVZ]

LOOOOOOOOOOOOL second greatest troll ever. You guys took first place with teams =)

[Sirken]

LOOOOOOOOOOOOL second greatest troll ever. You guys took first place with teams =)

aw :(

do you really think its a troll though? i'm gonna be stalking IMDB to see if they remove it over the next couple days

[Pokesan]

anyone can edit IMDB

radio edit

[AenorVZ]

DOTHRAKI AMBUSH ON HIGHGARDEN CARAVAN W/ JAIME AND BRONN???

http://www.ibtimes.com/game-thrones-season-7-spoilers-fan-photos-tease-major-ambush-lannisters-2449254

JON SNOW WITH DANNY AND MISSANDEI???????

http://www.celebuzz.com/photos/kit-harington-emilia-clarke-and-alfie-allen-on-set-of-game-of-thrones-season-7/stars-on-the-set-of-game-of-thrones/

SEASON 1 TRAILER IN SKYRIM???????????????????????????

http://www.dailydot.com/parsec/skyrim-game-of-thrones-season-1-trailer/

CLUMSY DELETED SCENES FROM THE BLU RAY?????????????? ARE YOU FING KIDDING ME?????????????????????????????????

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gtPqY_wUcOE

Okay I'll stop. Actually the QoT scene was interesting ... "Let the sparrows and Lannisters rip each other to pieces."

Jaime rocking widow's wail:

http://www.gamesradar.com/game-of-thrones-season-7-set-photos-show-off-jaimes-new-sword-and-a-new-lannister-alliance-spoilers/

MEERA FUCKING UP WHITE WALKERS??????????????????????????????????????????? ???

http://www.mtv.com/news/2956725/game-of-thrones-meera-bran-season-7/

"That's going to be one of the most exciting things in the coming episodes because he can reveal all of the past and the future."

[Sirken]

some of these i havent seen before, never feel bad for wall of links, ill give you more words after i get back home

[AenorVZ]

Bump. Does not belong on Page 2.

[Sirken]

super short (3 single images) season 7 trailer - https://youtu.be/n3c7GgYii0A

/excite on

[Sirken]

CLUMSY DELETED SCENES FROM THE BLU RAY?????????????? ARE YOU FING KIDDING ME?????????????????????????????????

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gtPqY_wUcOE

Okay I'll stop. Actually the QoT scene was interesting ... "Let the sparrows and Lannisters rip each other to pieces."

I actually enjoyed this one the most as I hadn't seen it before. it's funny how bad the direwolves look before they touch it up. and fuck, I love the QoT. it's too bad that scene with Mace got cut. it does a lot to show non readers exactly what kind of goof Mace is and how people actually see him.

[AenorVZ]

I liked that last quote from Meera ... she basically spoiled that Bran is going to show us more of the past and future. More flashbacks!

[Sirken]

I liked that last quote from Meera ... she basically spoiled that Bran is going to show us more of the past and future. More flashbacks!

I personally subscribe to the school of, we're getting a Tourny at Harrenhall flashback in season 7 ;)

[paulgiamatti]

http://imgur.com/0jO95x9.png

[AenorVZ]

Reek is a starter on my fantasy football team.

I personally subscribe to the school of, we're getting a Tourny at Harrenhall flashback in season 7 ;)

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[Sirken]

its too early for me to have an opinion on this

http://www.news.com.au/sport/ufc/conor-mcgregor-to-star-in-game-of-thrones/news-story/ec5d94575dc9b3146b8c2341846132ed

[AenorVZ]

I read most of that and didn't see any speculation about who he might play.

[Sirken]

I read most of that and didn't see any speculation about who he might play.

I seriously doubt it would be anything more than a brief cameo, like Flea during the Red Wedding. actually, I really sincerely hope its not more than a brief cameo :P

[Erati]

Flea was in the Red Wedding??


I missed that one

[AenorVZ]

Flea was in the Red Wedding??


I missed that one

[Sirken]

theres been a few random guest cameos. I was always hoping to see one of the guys from Always Sunny (D&D are big fans of Always Sunny in Philadelphia and ever since Mac hosted the GoT panel at comic con years ago. D&D have also written at least 1 episode of Always Sunny). but alas, I never got to see charlie as a jester or court fool :(

[Lulz|Sect]

Someone PLS post screen caps of these Easter eggs please
REALLY WANT TO C it's sunny ☀️ dudes dressed as jesters lol
My shitposting is limited due to employment
TY

[AenorVZ]

I shitpost at work.

[Sirken]

Someone PLS post screen caps of these Easter eggs please
REALLY WANT TO C it's sunny ☀️ dudes dressed as jesters lol
My shitposting is limited due to employment
TY

you and me both, but it hasn't happened yet.

what has happened is jorah being spotted near oldtown and near dany's people. which makes me seriously wonder why they bothered giving him greyscale in the first place, when they instantly cure this supposedly (nearly) incurable disease

[maskedmelon]

omgosh, I finished season 6 a coupe weeks ago, so can participate I this speculation now without runic it for myself ^^

I think it simply speaks to Jorah's character and his love for Deneras. This is a man who entered the slave trade out of affection (presumably) for his last love. There is a chance that it was more out of a sense of duty or something and that may be part of the reason he favors Deneras so strongly now (because so far she has not made him behave immorally, though she has made some questionable calls), but that is something of a tangent i suppose.

I think it is important to not forget that Deneras commanded him to find the cure for that disease and return to her afterwards. Succeeding there just builds him into something truly heroic, a man for whom nothing is impossible through his love for his Queen ^^

[Sirken]

RIP Maester Aemon. passed away Dec 6th at age 93

http://i.imgur.com/r9cfwI7.jpg

[Sirken]

omgosh, I finished season 6 a coupe weeks ago, so can participate I this speculation now without runic it for myself ^^

I think it simply speaks to Jorah's character and his love for Deneras. This is a man who entered the slave trade out of affection (presumably) for his last love. There is a chance that it was more out of a sense of duty or something and that may be part of the reason he favors Deneras so strongly now (because so far she has not made him behave immorally, though she has made some questionable calls), but that is something of a tangent i suppose.

I think it is important to not forget that Deneras commanded him to find the cure for that disease and return to her afterwards. Succeeding there just builds him into something truly heroic, a man for whom nothing is impossible through his love for his Queen ^^

welcome to the dark side :p

Jorah's love for Daenerys is sketchy at best and borderline creepy. The show tries super hard to down play this, but Dany was born near the end of 283AC, and the show starts up right abouts 297AC, making Dany roughly 14 years old when Jorah meets her. And the reason Jorah falls so instantly for her is because of her Valyrian features (platinum blond hair and (in the books) violet/purple eyes). This matters because Jorah's wife was Lynesse Hightower, Whom had the same Valyrian features insofar as the hair and eyes. Dany reminded Jorah of Lynesse, his love for Dany has absolutely nothing to do with Dany other than he really wants that ass. The show is now in about the year 300AC, so Dany is essentially 17 years old by the end of Season 6 when she sends Sir Friendzone away. And don't forget that in both book and show, Jorah was spying on her and assisting in at least one assassination attempt on her life. I'd hardly call that love. at best, Jorah is infatuated with Dany, or, is looking to replace Lynesse with Dany.

as for the greyscale, this one is a bit more tricky. Greyscale is a big fucking deal in this world. there is no known cure, and it is fatal. Shireen Baratheon contracted the disease from a doll that was given to her as a gift while she was an infant. The Baratheon's (as lords of the Stormlands, are a very powerful and respected family with tons of resources available to them) called every maester, healer, witch, priest, etc, that you can think of to try and heal her. In the end, they were able to stop the greyscale from continuing to spread, however due to all the different combinations of shit they tried, nobody really has any idea what it was that actually worked in stopping the disease, and both book and show has made this point and driven it home to the watcher/reader.
Ok so now with that being said, in the books, Jorah doesn't get greyscale. In the books there is a character named "Griff" whom contracts the disease, and theres a whole story that the show cut out that i won't get into, but for whatever reason the show decided to merge part of Griff's story into Jorah's story. But the Greyscale means absolutely nothing if he's able to cure it this quickly. if it was as easy as taking a boat to a healer or to oldtown (the place with all the books that sam was left at the end of season 6), then greyscale wouldnt be nearly as feared as it currently is.

But in the end, I am expecting you will be right. The show will find a way to magically cure his greyscale in the first or second episode, and he'll be right back fighting at Dany's side :)

[maskedmelon]

welcome to the dark side :p

Jorah's love for Daenerys is sketchy at best and borderline creepy. The show tries super hard to down play this, but Dany was born near the end of 283AC, and the show starts up right abouts 297AC, making Dany roughly 14 years old when Jorah meets her. And the reason Jorah falls so instantly for her is because of her Valyrian features (platinum blond hair and (in the books) violet/purple eyes). This matters because Jorah's wife was Lynesse Hightower, Whom had the same Valyrian features insofar as the hair and eyes. Dany reminded Jorah of Lynesse, his love for Dany has absolutely nothing to do with Dany other than he really wants that ass. The show is now in about the year 300AC, so Dany is essentially 17 years old by the end of Season 6 when she sends Sir Friendzone away. And don't forget that in both book and show, Jorah was spying on her and assisting in at least one assassination attempt on her life. I'd hardly call that love. at best, Jorah is infatuated with Dany, or, is looking to replace Lynesse with Dany.

as for the greyscale, this one is a bit more tricky. Greyscale is a big fucking deal in this world. there is no known cure, and it is fatal. Shireen Baratheon contracted the disease from a doll that was given to her as a gift while she was an infant. The Baratheon's (as lords of the Stormlands, are a very powerful and respected family with tons of resources available to them) called every maester, healer, witch, priest, etc, that you can think of to try and heal her. In the end, they were able to stop the greyscale from continuing to spread, however due to all the different combinations of shit they tried, nobody really has any idea what it was that actually worked in stopping the disease, and both book and show has made this point and driven it home to the watcher/reader.
Ok so now with that being said, in the books, Jorah doesn't get greyscale. In the books there is a character named "Griff" whom contracts the disease, and theres a whole story that the show cut out that i won't get into, but for whatever reason the show decided to merge part of Griff's story into Jorah's story. But the Greyscale means absolutely nothing if he's able to cure it this quickly. if it was as easy as taking a boat to a healer or to oldtown (the place with all the books that sam was left at the end of season 6), then greyscale wouldnt be nearly as feared as it currently is.

But in the end, I am expecting you will be right. The show will find a way to magically cure his greyscale in the first or second episode, and he'll be right back fighting at Dany's side :)


Ohhhhhh, I didn't know much bout his wife and considered him pretty frickin creepy too for quite a while (seemed ok at first, but then started feeling more scummy, like the fact that he would return to her (the first time) while he was infected! That REALLY pissed me off), he just seemed to redeem himself somewhat towards the end there by helping rescue her and stuff.

It would be interesting if that Dr. Frankenstein guy (the one who restore the stupid mountain) played a role, or if his research was like locked away there after he got the boot and now Jorah with the help of Sam the Maester Nooblet manage to pull a solution from disjointed notes or something. Would help develop Sam's character too :3

[AenorVZ]

What is dead may never die.

[AenorVZ]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mg2xtVYgQhI

[Sirken]

im not even sure how i feel about that video. it was definitely cool and was a great editing job, but didnt have anything from season 7, which is what i was hoping for!

it seems that the news leaks info has been slowing down, which makes me feel like make they are just about done filming (at least the out door stuffs). what are the odds we get book 6 before this summer? :p

[paulgiamatti]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mg2xtVYgQhI

That was fantastic, but yeah it should read "Season 6 Recap"

The show will find a way to magically cure his greyscale in the first or second episode, and he'll be right back fighting at Dany's side :)

And nah, Jorah's definitely gonna die before he finds a cure, probably not by the disease tho. He was already getting all fatalistic and weak in season 6, nearly got his head ripped off by a Dothraki. Perfect opportunity to kill him off in a believable way.

[AenorVZ]

what are the odds we get book 6 before this summer? :p

Negligible sadly.

[dafier]

And nah, Jorah's definitely gonna die before he finds a cure, probably not by the disease tho. He was already getting all fatalistic and weak in season 6, nearly got his head ripped off by a Dothraki. Perfect opportunity to kill him off in a believable way.

I think Jorah has a chance to live, but that means he will have to be stabbed in the heart with something :eek: :D

Yep...then he will be cold as ice...like a certain Stark....

[paulgiamatti]

Damn, that's actually some next-level GoT theorycrafting. Related: I recently picked up Skyrim SE and made my character Benjen Stark.

[AenorVZ]

Are you lost in a cold wilderness? And yo, if only some major characters came back as zombies. The internet would implode.

[Sirken]

Damn, that's actually some next-level GoT theorycrafting. Related: I recently picked up Skyrim SE and made my character Benjen Stark.

i was actually reading into theories as to why Benjen up and joined the Nights Watch when he did, and all the nerds want to believe that Benjen knew about Lyanna and Rhaegar, as well as Ned and Ashara. but when Ned traded his own honor to protect Jon, claiming him as his bastard, Ned dishonored Cat, Ashara, and possibly his brother Brandon.

I'm not sure if i buy any of the theories though. it seems the starks have always viewed joining the nights watch as honorable, and as the third son, why not join the night's watch (as he didnt stand to inherit anything unless Ned and his three sons all died). basically if Bran Stark dies, Benjen would have been the rightful heir to Winterfell though

[Sirken]

so, i never really thought FAegon could actually have been Rhaegar's son. but then i saw this video: https://youtu.be/UxvuqslYabo

and, now maybe he could be oris Rhaegar's son? am i just super tired?

[Fael]

You are just tired. Their evidence is that he (1) looks Targ, (2) listens to the advice of Tyrion, (3) said something kind of similar to Rhaegar (one commented on the castle, the other the land), and that (4) he is Varys' ideal, learned Prince.

All of the above is extremely weak compared to the purposeful way in which Martin has pointed toward Aegon's Blackfyre lineage.

[Sirken]

i went back and listened to the rest of their stuff. a lot of it is based on timeline stuffs and their interpretation of the words.

they are also super hell-bent that Mance Rayder is actually Arthur Dayne in the books /facepalm

[AenorVZ]

lol

[Sirken]

my big problem with that is that Stannis meets Mance. if Mance was Arthur, then Stannis would recognize him as such

[AenorVZ]

Looks like this is the latest:

http://www.universityherald.com/articles/57849/20161231/game-of-thrones-season-7-updates-spoilers-top-5-character-plots-you-must-watch-out-in-got-s7-set-photos-fan-theories.htm

[AenorVZ]

Crowfood Umber busted:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PDTRxGAkFfA

[AenorVZ]

MOTHERLOAD

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T1oTKyzu_2w

[Sirken]

some of these spoilers just seem too far fetched to be real, but i thought that about some spoilers last season that ended up happening. the ice dragon thing really bothers me a lot. but most of the spoiler stuff ive seen could be predicted by the leaked photos and elaborated on.

that said, if the sandsnakes are gonna get rekt early on in the season, i'm all for that spoiler being real.

[AenorVZ]

You should have me on stream so we can relive the glory that was Vallon Zek.

[Sirken]

You should have me on stream so we can relive the glory that was Vallon Zek.

heh, first i need to work on getting myself back on stream. and if anything, we should talk about game of thrones.

just found out they recast Samwell's brother for the upcoming season. really worried season 7 is going to feel rushed and choppy, and i fear a lot of the characters will come off different now that D&D have to write all the dialog & thoughts for them.

wtb book 6

[AenorVZ]

I think the spoilers are legit. Definitely down to discuss. Let me know if you don't want to see plot spoilers.

[Sirken]

I think the spoilers are legit. Definitely down to discuss. Let me know if you don't want to see plot spoilers.

go for it, its a spoiler thread ;)

also, the guy that plays walder was confirmed in season 7 it sounds like - https://youtu.be/F8wGIdK0niY

[AenorVZ]

Season's going to be awesome. I think Season 6 was D&D in a holding pattern hoping to get Winds. Now that they know they won't get it, it's going to be full on fanfic and fan service. They've got to go with their best theory/whatever GRRM has told them about how it all ends. With only a season and a half's worth of episodes remaining, they go from holding pattern to hurry up and wrap this shit.

[Sirken]

fingers crossed that they are at least 60min episodes.

heard a fun theory the Old Nan is actually Rohanne Webber. i'm not sure if i buy it because the timelines are screwed up a tiny bit for it to work imo. but i like it.

here was the vid: https://youtu.be/jaJf78kc3To

[Sirken]

boom, confirmed Karstark https://youtu.be/pgQBvJvWDCM

[AenorVZ]

BOOM.

[Patriam1066]

Hope they don't make her Jon's love interest. I don't really understand where they're going with the northern plot (the politics I mean) in the show

[AenorVZ]

NYMERIA HYPE

[Sirken]

Arya spotted in Calgary for filming, this matters because thats where the Dire Wolves live irl, and thats where theyve done all the filming of the Dire Wolf scenes. Nymeria Hype

http://calgaryherald.com/entertainment/television/game-of-thrones-returns-to-calgary-to-shoot-scenes-for-season-7-actress-maisie-williams-spotted-singing-karaoke-at-duckys

https://youtu.be/7bdO3qbamYE

[Sirken]

and if Cat is your favorite character,

Part 1: https://youtu.be/VgaNXPOD9wY
Part 2: https://youtu.be/2rMJK0w5xIc
Part 3: https://youtu.be/nY2XmnoHdkE

[Patriam1066]

and if Cat is your favorite character,

Part 1: https://youtu.be/VgaNXPOD9wY
Part 2: https://youtu.be/2rMJK0w5xIc
Part 3: https://youtu.be/nY2XmnoHdkE

I lol'ed

Arya best show character

I think Jaime is my favorite book POV after a few rereads

[Bubbles]

and if Cat is your favorite character,

Part 1: https://youtu.be/VgaNXPOD9wY
Part 2: https://youtu.be/2rMJK0w5xIc
Part 3: https://youtu.be/nY2XmnoHdkE

Saw these when they first came up.. Beautifully done.

[Sirken]

Saw these when they first came up.. Beautifully done.

theres a part 4 now ;)

also, fuck Cat

[katrik]

Watched all four parts. It makes you wonder if GRRM intentionally made her that stupid.

[Sirken]

Watched all four parts. It makes you wonder if GRRM intentionally made her that stupid.

Ned wasn't exactly the sharpest crayon in the tool shed either though. There's a reason Stannis got the F out of KL when Jon Arryn died, and there's a reason Renly got his boys and got the F out of KL as Robert Baratheon was dying. Ned also sent half his men away with Beric Dondarion to bring Gregor Clegane to justice for raiding in the Riverlands. And to top it all off, he trusted Littlefinger. Ned & Cat deserved each other ;)

[AenorVZ]

It's one of my issues with the series. In his zeal to break the good guys always win trope, GRRM made the Starks too stupid to be believable.

[Tasslehofp99]

Saw the Game of Thrones live concert experience tonight, lol. It was pretty fucking badass, more so than I had expected. The music was awesome and they put on a pretty cool stage show too.



Will try to post whatever pics/vids me and my gf got if anyone cares. They showed a few stills from season 7 production towards the end that I found pretty interesting.

[Sirken]

It's one of my issues with the series. In his zeal to break the good guys always win trope, GRRM made the Starks too stupid to be believable.

I mean, you say that, but I have some severely dumb friends that could easily rival Ned & Cat in their stupidity.

[Sirken]

Saw the Game of Thrones live concert experience tonight, lol. It was pretty fucking badass, more so than I had expected. The music was awesome and they put on a pretty cool stage show too.



Will try to post whatever pics/vids me and my gf got if anyone cares. They showed a few stills from season 7 production towards the end that I found pretty interesting.

was it just songs from the show's soundtrack? or, what all were they playing?

[Sirken]

also - https://youtu.be/SjX1K6GeRa4

video on Jim Broadbent talking about his role on GoT this season ;)

[Patriam1066]

It's one of my issues with the series. In his zeal to break the good guys always win trope, GRRM made the Starks too stupid to be believable.

Ned was an honorable soldier. I agree that Ned and Cat symbolize the idyllic world (simplified Tolkien-esque) that Martin wanted to kill, but Ned didn't have enough time to learn how to maneuver in KL. I mean honestly, who wouldn't lose a game of 4D chess to Baelish? Ned fucked up when he didn't listen to Renly, but Sansa ultimately fucked him by talking to Cersei. Ned's soldier's honor got him, but he'll always be my favorite (<3 Sean Bean). Plus, I don't think he ever understood what colossal pieces of shit he was dealing with. I don't think that's bad writing on martin's end.

The best part about the Stark family is that Arya is the most ruthless character in the books and she's gonna fuck some people up. Where the fuck are the winds of winter

I'm gonna start my 4th reread here soon. Even talking about this I love hating Jaime in book 1 and then being like wow this guy isn't such a dick after all. That said, I'm assuming you've read the books more than once and yeah, on a re-read the stupidity of the Starks is painful. Honestly though, Jon's decision making is the dumbest IMO. Run the watch like a dictator and force people to kill you because they believe you're destroying their life's work without even taking the time to explain it to them. Great job Jon!

[Sage Truthbearer]

I'm gonna start my 4th reread here soon. Even talking about this I love hating Jaime in book 1 and then being like wow this guy isn't such a dick after all.

Jaime's character arc is one of my favorite aspects of the series. From general douche bag, Kingslayer and child-crippler, to being one of the most redeeming characters in the entire series based purely on character development. And I think you could see there was some goodness in him even in book 1, because he's always been the only Lannister that has ever had any empathy for Tyrion.

[Sirken]

Ned was an honorable soldier. I agree that Ned and Cat symbolize the idyllic world (simplified Tolkien-esque) that Martin wanted to kill, but Ned didn't have enough time to learn how to maneuver in KL. I mean honestly, who wouldn't lose a game of 4D chess to Baelish? Ned fucked up when he didn't listen to Renly, but Sansa ultimately fucked him by talking to Cersei. Ned's soldier's honor got him, but he'll always be my favorite (<3 Sean Bean). Plus, I don't think he ever understood what colossal pieces of shit he was dealing with. I don't think that's bad writing on martin's end.

The best part about the Stark family is that Arya is the most ruthless character in the books and she's gonna fuck some people up. Where the fuck are the winds of winter

I'm gonna start my 4th reread here soon. Even talking about this I love hating Jaime in book 1 and then being like wow this guy isn't such a dick after all. That said, I'm assuming you've read the books more than once and yeah, on a re-read the stupidity of the Starks is painful. Honestly though, Jon's decision making is the dumbest IMO. Run the watch like a dictator and force people to kill you because they believe you're destroying their life's work without even taking the time to explain it to them. Great job Jon!

honorable yes, but also dumb. To add to what you said, surely I don't blame Ned. Nothing in his life could have prepared him for dealing in KL. But he regardless, he still made poor decisions and should have realized how over his head he was, or realized how bad of a position he was in. I think it was great writing, I just think Ned was an idiot and Cat was the worst. but both are wonderfully well written characters.

Arya is fun, but i just don't see how she goes back to living a normal life as a Stark girl. I dont expect her to die, but im not convinced she will just resume her expected role in society as a daughter of Winterfell and live happily ever after.

for extra fun, try a linear re-read, make things a little bit more interesting when you are reading the chapters chronologically versus how they are presented to us in the books ;)

[Tasslehofp99]

was it just songs from the show's soundtrack? or, what all were they playing?

Songs from the show's soundtrack with some other songs that (I think) were just inspired by the show. There was a pretty dope stage show as well set to the music. Overall, was definitely worth the 40$ and train fare to go check out. Their presentation of the red wedding was pretty cool.

I didn't end up getting much video/pictures on my phone but my gf did so when she posts it up somewhere I'll try to remember to link it here.

[AenorVZ]

Ah but are your dumb friends tragically noble, Sirken?

And yes Pat, it bothered me more on subsequent re-reads. I think I had blocked out the trauma of how absurd Jon's decisions are at the end ... thanks for reminding me!

[Patriam1066]

Jaime's character arc is one of my favorite aspects of the series. From general douche bag, Kingslayer and child-crippler, to being one of the most redeeming characters in the entire series based purely on character development. And I think you could see there was some goodness in him even in book 1, because he's always been the only Lannister that has ever had any empathy for Tyrion.

I always hated him in book 1. I'll look out for this on the reread. I agree with you about his arc though. I think he's my favorite character now.

honorable yes, but also dumb. To add to what you said, surely I don't blame Ned. Nothing in his life could have prepared him for dealing in KL. But he regardless, he still made poor decisions and should have realized how over his head he was, or realized how bad of a position he was in. I think it was great writing, I just think Ned was an idiot and Cat was the worst. but both are wonderfully well written characters.

Arya is fun, but i just don't see how she goes back to living a normal life as a Stark girl. I dont expect her to die, but im not convinced she will just resume her expected role in society as a daughter of Winterfell and live happily ever after.

for extra fun, try a linear re-read, make things a little bit more interesting when you are reading the chapters chronologically versus how they are presented to us in the books ;)

I agree that they were well written characters. I guess that's what I was trying to get at. I consider myself a smart guy and I'm 99% sure I would've died like Ned. It would've probably taken longer though. I'd've named myself King Stark, made Renly my heir and died to a shadow summoned by stannis. And I agree on Arya. She's gonna mess some people up though

How do you suggest I read the books? You mean 4 and 5 I assume

Ah but are your dumb friends tragically noble, Sirken?

And yes Pat, it bothered me more on subsequent re-reads. I think I had blocked out the trauma of how absurd Jon's decisions are at the end ... thanks for reminding me!

Yeah I guess it's how you see it. Because of the chronology, by the end of them I don't even remember Ned's errors since Jon's are fresh on the mind. Sorry to remind you but it had to be done. Remember though, he's a teenager. Still not bad writing on Martin's part though. At least not yet

If Jon becomes King and lives forever it will be. I just don't think he has the guile to be a noble and effective ruler.

[AenorVZ]

Preston's chats with Red Team Review aren't very good. They spend 45 minutes talking about a show-only theory that Gendry is Cercei's first child and they lied to her and told her he died but he didn't and they passed him off as Robert's bastard with Varys trying to get him sent to the wall to protect him so he can later be king. I mean seriously, you thought that was worth 45 minutes?

[AenorVZ]

Nothing earth shattering here, just a few interesting tidbits:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uVIX65xDj5A

They do a good job with Lady Stoneheart. Also, the originaly Danny:

http://grrm.livejournal.com/103138.html

[AenorVZ]

That's right bitches, I'm single handedly keeping this thread alive like sir gregor

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SVaD8rouJn0

[Sirken]

Preston's chats with Red Team Review aren't very good. They spend 45 minutes talking about a show-only theory that Gendry is Cercei's first child and they lied to her and told her he died but he didn't and they passed him off as Robert's bastard with Varys trying to get him sent to the wall to protect him so he can later be king. I mean seriously, you thought that was worth 45 minutes?
redteamreview guy (Carmine) is dumb. he's a fan of the show but has never read the books. and honestly, it's really just Preston explaining things to Carmine for a near hour.

That's right bitches, I'm single handedly keeping this thread alive like sir gregor https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SVaD8rouJn0
you're the best

[Sirken]

Nothing earth shattering here, just a few interesting tidbits:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uVIX65xDj5A

They do a good job with Lady Stoneheart. Also, the originaly Danny:

http://grrm.livejournal.com/103138.html

You might have mentioned her on purpose because you already know this, but Catelyn Stark was re-cast as well. they had to reshoot a bunch of the pilot after casting Emilia Clarke and Michelle Fairley for the roles of Dany & Catelyn


also, i've been reading things...

Viserion related things...

[AenorVZ]

Oh do tell.

[Sirken]

Oh do tell.

do you care about potential season 7 spoilers? if so, don't read this:

Word on the street is that Viserion will be killed this season, then reanimated as an ice dragon by the Night King and used as his mount.

[AenorVZ]

Yep I'm up on the show spoilers. Sucks to spoil it because that will be a major oh shit moment but I'm done waiting.

[mickmoranis]

Hopefully the new series spinoffs start to look like this:

http://i.imgur.com/M9YWQc5.jpg

[Sirken]

confirmed Dunk & Egg not one of the planned spinoff shows, same with Robert's Rebellion.
source: GRRM's blog, http://grrm.livejournal.com/536859.html



Well played George, well played.

[Sirken]

omg.. what if Jon Snow is Daenerys' Nissa Nissa

[Ella`Ella]

confirmed Dunk & Egg not one of the planned spinoff shows, same with Robert's Rebellion.
source: GRRM's blog, http://grrm.livejournal.com/536859.html



Well played George, well played.

All I got out of this is that HBO cut him out and the new writers are milking him for all he's worth before production starts and George's name won't even find its way into the credits.

[Sirken]

All I got out of this is that HBO cut him out and the new writers are milking him for all he's worth before production starts and George's name won't even find its way into the credits.

good. that asshole needs to write book 6. its sad no dunk & egg spinoff tho :(

[AenorVZ]

By process of elimination, looks like they're focused on the Dance of the Dragons.

[Patriam1066]

Dance would be cool. I'd like a Essos based series... it won't happen but the Free Cities and their politics as they fought each other would be entertaining IMO

[Sirken]

By process of elimination, looks like they're focused on the Dance of the Dragons.

thing is, he said no to Dunk & Egg and to Robert's Rebellion. And if they are planning 3-4 different things, then most of those things won't be based on any books. It will essentially be fan fiction expanded history within the world prior to book1/Season1. And if we're going that route (which it looks like we are), then they can literally do anything or make up anything they want.

[AenorVZ]

Well there are three or four proposals, not three or four series' that have been optioned. We're still talking about possible options here. It's conspicuous that he would rule out robert's rebellion and dunk and egg, two eras that have a lot of written history, but fail to rule out DoD, which has a fairly massive amount of written history.

[Sirken]

Well there are three or four proposals, not three or four series' that have been optioned. We're still talking about possible options here. It's conspicuous that he would rule out robert's rebellion and dunk and egg, two eras that have a lot of written history, but fail to rule out DoD, which has a fairly massive amount of written history.

so regarding Robert's Rebellion, he said that by the end of "A Song of Ice and Fire" there will be no point in making a story or show about Robert's Rebellion, meaning they are probably going to cover the events of (as well as the events leading up to and after) the tourny at Harrenhal, as well as any other main things associated with the rebellion.

as for Dunk & Egg, George said that he doesnt want to be in the same situation where the show passes the book and gets to finish his story before he does, and he plans on writing at least 9 more Dunk & Egg short stories.

so that leaves us with book things things like "The Long Night", "The Age of Heros", "Aegon's Conquest", "The Doom of Valyria", "The Dance of the Dragons", and pretty much any other event we know of. Hell it could just simply follow the Targ dynasty from Aegon the Conqueror to Aerys the Mad King.

but it also opens up room for anything within the world that hasn't been covered by the books yet.

[Uuruk]

Congratulations Sirken for 887 posts in this thread. I feel like I can live the GoT world vicariously through you. Looking forward to the new season.

[Sirken]

Congratulations Sirken for 887 posts in this thread. I feel like I can live the GoT world vicariously through you. Looking forward to the new season.
thanks! be sure to send my prize to the P99 office building c/o Sirken

Sooo, just read the other day that Season 8 is going to be delayed, and possibly until 2019. We might get Book 6 before Season 8, but I feel like Season 7 would cover anything that could be in Book 6. But apparently David & Dan said they don't wan their names associated with the GoT spin-offs in any way, and they haven't started writing Season 8. But hell, 1 month & 3 days until Season 7, so that's a thing.

Sidebar: I've been enjoying the Preston & RedTeam podcasts, even if it is like listening to Preston explain things to someone that knows nothing. Also, Preston sounds like a certain staff member, so i get extra laughs ;)

[AzzarTheGod]

But apparently David & Dan said they don't wan their names associated with the GoT spin-offs in any way, and they haven't started writing Season 8. But hell, 1 month & 3 days until Season 7, so that's a thing.


Probably a precaution more than a commentary on the spin-offs themselves.

Lets remember D&D are brand new people to this business as far as show-runners go. They did this alone without any help. That is landmark and has relatively few precedents. They are too new to be throwing their name around on consulting jobs and having them even be a smidgen toward substandard.

Leave that to the veterans Terrance Winter and Martin Scorsese.

[AenorVZ]

No great lines like "you need a bad pussy" in the spinoffs. Dang.

[AzzarTheGod]

No great lines like "you need a bad pussy" in the spinoffs. Dang.

Never thought about it like that but you're right lol

[Angushjalmur]

thanks! be sure to send my prize to the P99 office building c/o Sirken



Rogean Technologies coming up fast yall

got an office now

[Sirken]

Never thought about it like that but you're right lol

yea, thats one thing i noticed after season 4, all the writing took a pretty serious hit. also, everything from that point is presented pretty straight forward, theres really nothing that you have to stop and think about because they will just reveal next week. one of the better parts about GoT is that sometimes things happen right in front of your face and you're still not 100% sure who is behind it. Baelish and Varys haven't been clever for nearly 3 years.
Rogean Technologies coming up fast yall
got an office now
p99 office is old news, and off topic, try to keep up ;)

[AzzarTheGod]

yea, thats one thing i noticed after season 4, all the writing took a pretty serious hit. also, everything from that point is presented pretty straight forward, theres really nothing that you have to stop and think about because they will just reveal next week. one of the better parts about GoT is that sometimes things happen right in front of your face and you're still not 100% sure who is behind it. Baelish and Varys haven't been clever for nearly 3 years.

After reading this post I just realized I already have the rose-colored glasses on.

I totally forgot about last season and the season prior. It all came rushing back. BOOM!! Arya storyline!! BOOM!! Sand Snakes + Dorn treatment!!! BOOM!! Littlefinger is a bungling bitch! BOOM!! Not making use of Varys while focusing on Iron Islands character development, that.....surprise nobody cares about and has yet to form any attachment to going into the next season! BOOM!!

I'm getting old and selective memory is kicking in.

[Sirken]

After reading this post I just realized I already have the rose-colored glasses on.

I totally forgot about last season and the season prior. It all came rushing back. BOOM!! Arya storyline!! BOOM!! Sand Snakes + Dorn treatment!!! BOOM!! Littlefinger is a bungling bitch! BOOM!! Not making use of Varys while focusing on Iron Islands character development, that.....surprise nobody cares about and has yet to form any attachment to going into the next season! BOOM!!

I'm getting old and selective memory is kicking in.

Sorry guys, we don't have time for Victarion or the Dornish master plan, but don't worry, instead you are getting a Greyworm/Missandei romance! :mad:

[skarlorn]

Sorry guys, we don't have time for Victarion or the Dornish master plan, but don't worry, instead you are getting a Greyworm/Missandei romance! :mad:

I haven't read the books and my bullshit-o-meter broke the glass with this romance.

Was as bad as the Josie Packard Sawmill plot line from Twin Peaks Season 2.

However, I like the Arya storyline because I personally relate to it as a halfling (she is small like a halfling) intent on revenge of a powerful figure who has killed someone she loved.

That's right Llandris.

I'm coming for you. (in-game duel)

Hope this message finds you all well and happy at p99 offices

[AzzarTheGod]

The great thing about selective memory is it goes both ways.

I have almost no recollection of Greyworm or Missandei scenes aside from the expressions on their face. Feels good to know my jammer is working at full capacity.

Arya isn't terrible its just the pissing away of episodes on her scenes that barely get explored. Screentime for shallow scenes is where you get this negative association with the Arya storyline, especially as it drew towards the climax. You could feel it chewing into everything else they could have done with the other storylines.

Arya threads during the airing of the show read two ways A) Where you think this is going B) Where it actually went

from the way they used that theater group of carnies, to the departure from the faceless ones people were looking for a little more depth

[AenorVZ]

Preston getting super edgy with Jon Snow's "rigged" election.

[Samsung]

Anyone else pumped up for ice dragons this season?

I got a dragon for you

[Sirken]

However, I like the Arya storyline
Arya isn't terrible its just the pissing away of episodes on her scenes that barely get explored.

I did up until last season. Arya suddenly stopped being left handed last season, she was frolicking around Bravos while the most skilled group of face swapping assassins are hunting her down. Then she gets gut stabbed (twice), and she jumps into a river of piss and shit and sewage. After miraculously not bleeding out, or catching sepsis, or catching some random infection, she's taken in by the actress. Then a T-1000 from Terminator 2 shows up, Arya ignores her gut stabs and goes running, jumping, falling, rolling, twisting, and turning through the city, only to engage in a fight against a person that has indisputably proven to be better than Arya, only to then be killed by Arya. THEN Arya uses what I imagine is the same teleport machine that Varys and Baelish have access to, in order to arrive at the riverlands. She arrives at the twins during a celebration of Freys and Lannisters, catches Walder Frey's sons coming back from Riverrun, and in a matter of a day (2 at most) murders them both, then legit butchers them for meat, grinds it up, and fills a pie with it (we're going to give her the benefit of the doubt and say someone else had already baked the pie crust, and pretend that magically there was a window of time for her to be in the kitchen alone long enough to bring in the dead frey people (or meat) and finish cooking the pies with it.


:mad:

[Sirken]

The great thing about selective memory is it goes both ways. I have almost no recollection of Greyworm or Missandei scenes aside from the expressions on their face. Feels good to know my jammer is working at full capacity. from the way they used that theater group of carnies, to the departure from the faceless ones people were looking for a little more depth

the G&M romance was a stab at the upcoming season based on the trailors i've seen, and leaked stuff i've read. as for the carnies, i don't know the full story, but that's actually from Book 6 (mercy chapter), the show just crammed it into last season to help progress Arya's story.

[Sirken]

Preston getting super edgy with Jon Snow's "rigged" election.

i'm withholding judgement until after he finishes Part 2 (or however many it goes on for)

[AenorVZ]

Anyone else pumped up for ice dragons this season?

This means there have to be fiery zombies, right?

[Sirken]

This means there have to be fiery zombies, right?

does Beric count?

[maskedmelonpai]

I did up until last season. Arya suddenly stopped being left handed last season, she was frolicking around Bravos while the most skilled group of face swapping assassins are hunting her down. Then she gets gut stabbed (twice), and she jumps into a river of piss and shit and sewage. After miraculously not bleeding out, or catching sepsis, or catching some random infection, she's taken in by the actress. Then a T-1000 from Terminator 2 shows up, Arya ignores her gut stabs and goes running, jumping, falling, rolling, twisting, and turning through the city, only to engage in a fight against a person that has indisputably proven to be better than Arya, only to then be killed by Arya. THEN Arya uses what I imagine is the same teleport machine that Varys and Baelish have access to, in order to arrive at the riverlands. She arrives at the twins during a celebration of Freys and Lannisters, catches Walder Frey's sons coming back from Riverrun, and in a matter of a day (2 at most) murders them both, then legit butchers them for meat, grinds it up, and fills a pie with it (we're going to give her the benefit of the doubt and say someone else had already baked the pie crust, and pretend that magically there was a window of time for her to be in the kitchen alone long enough to bring in the dead frey people (or meat) and finish cooking the pies with it.


:mad:

glad to see somebody put my thoughts to words. it really suspend my suspension of disbelief when she run around with a GUT wound and get in dirty water and sprint through the city. surviving a gut wound alone in that period is almost unbelievable let alone everything else. it make me think wtheck? moar than omgosh!

[skarlorn]

I did up until last season. Arya suddenly stopped being left handed last season, she was frolicking around Bravos while the most skilled group of face swapping assassins are hunting her down. Then she gets gut stabbed (twice), and she jumps into a river of piss and shit and sewage. After miraculously not bleeding out, or catching sepsis, or catching some random infection, she's taken in by the actress. Then a T-1000 from Terminator 2 shows up, Arya ignores her gut stabs and goes running, jumping, falling, rolling, twisting, and turning through the city, only to engage in a fight against a person that has indisputably proven to be better than Arya, only to then be killed by Arya. THEN Arya uses what I imagine is the same teleport machine that Varys and Baelish have access to, in order to arrive at the riverlands. She arrives at the twins during a celebration of Freys and Lannisters, catches Walder Frey's sons coming back from Riverrun, and in a matter of a day (2 at most) murders them both, then legit butchers them for meat, grinds it up, and fills a pie with it (we're going to give her the benefit of the doubt and say someone else had already baked the pie crust, and pretend that magically there was a window of time for her to be in the kitchen alone long enough to bring in the dead frey people (or meat) and finish cooking the pies with it.


:mad:

well fuck when you put it like that *TRIGGERED*

[skarlorn]

http://i.imgur.com/siKIPLc.jpg

i think most of us nerds can relate to this in some way.

[AenorVZ]

does Beric count?

Does count! Touche!

[AenorVZ]

Yo! I didn't know they fished Dark Sister out of the God's Eye:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mx8wGk6LDwU

http://awoiaf.westeros.org/index.php/Dark_Sister

[AzzarTheGod]

You were right Sirks it cooks Westworld. This season is off to a mega smash opener.

10m people watched live, 16m+ so far on stream/live and will probably climb to over 30m once 72 hour DVR is factored in. Up 50% over the S6 premiere numbers.

@GameOfThrones S7 opens to a massive linear audience of 10.1M viewers at 9 p.m. Sunday, up 27% vs. April 2016 S6 premiere
Including replays + digital views, HBO estimates audience for S7 @GameOfThrones opener already at 16.1M -- +50% vs 2016

[katrik]

Arya such a badass tho

[Sirken]

this video (if you don't read the books, you aren't gonna get the part at the beginning regarding the 7 vs 3 dream, but it) sums up all my complaints about ep1, i can't say it better than he did here: https://youtu.be/RhSj4dOTM9Q

[AenorVZ]

Preston's over it. If he's going to keep doing this, he's got to just get over it, doesn't he? I mean yes, the logistics and believability of pretty much everything the show has Arya do is off. But Preston is losing his shit over nit picky details like ... how did Arya rule the Twins while the Frey's gathered? (she stayed in Walder's chambers and told the servants Walder was not well until the Freys gathered) ... how did every Frey from the corners of Westeros gather? Why are there no Freys under 25? (how does the show plot necessitate that it's every single Frey and not just every available Frey?)

[skarlorn]

s7ep1 was one of the shittiest eps yet imo

[AenorVZ]

Carmine is still a tool but him calling Preston a troll was pretty funny:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mxxvzH5ZUNE

[Ahldagor]

Ice giant with the bow gonna shoot a dragon?

[Patriam1066]

s7ep1 was one of the shittiest eps yet imo

Yeah, wow

I liked the hound, I can't wait to see him be crowned king of westeros. Other than that I'm not sure why I watch anymore

[AzzarTheGod]

Yeah, wow

I liked the hound, I can't wait to see him be crowned king of westeros. Other than that I'm not sure why I watch anymore

The acting in the scenes with the Hound was some of the best on the show.

Daenerys is barely worth watching on screen anymore. Takes you right out of the show at break neck speed as soon as you see her. Stands out from the entire cast as far as acting talent goes.

I don't see her having a long career in Hollywood or getting any other gigs. She's a one-trick one-face actor with questionable 4th wall breaking screen presence.

[Rogean]

So Jon leaves Winterfell without seeing Bran. That's kind of annoying me. Someone just fucking tell him already. I hate when writers dangle story-changing revelations to main characters in front of the viewers.

[heartbrand]

this show sucks now

[skarlorn]

The acting in the scenes with the Hound was some of the best on the show.

Daenerys is barely worth watching on screen anymore. Takes you right out of the show at break neck speed as soon as you see her. Stands out from the entire cast as far as acting talent goes.

Glad to hear someone else noticed this. I liked Daeny a lot in first couple seasons, but in the last episode I was actually STUNNED by how bad her acting was. In the scene between her and the Red Witch I was sitting there actively wondering what went wrong. I thought it may be bad directing, but all the other actors were still quality. Absolutely disappointing performance.

Meanwhile. the Hound is still God Tier and the most honorable Knight in Westeros.

this show sucks now

It's incredible how far it has fallen. The best part of the episode was inanimate ships crashing into each other and how they made the one ship have Squidlike features. Especially stern cringe for the Arya sequence at Hogshead Inn with her overly curt replies, DOUBLE especially stern cringe for the Arya and wolves sequence. "It wasn't you" she says with a shitty little cuck smirk.

I watched ep2 after catching part 11 of Twin Peaks the Return. It's just not even on the same caliber of quality of writing, directing, cohesiveness, art, etc. I am glad there's such quality coming out (thanks Frost & Lynch and the incredible cast) but also WOW does GoT suck my cocc now.

Still gonna watch it.

[skarlorn]

I also want to comment on how fucking stupid the Greyscale surgery scene is. OKAY the acting is actually really good, I loved the performance and it looked super nasty, and then the cut to the pie was well executed so good editing. This here is an old fashioned critique of writing, gents.

So we have the fatso fuck capable of stealing all these rare and strange ingredients to cure the cuck knight's grayscale. But the best painkiller he can offer is Rum?? REALLY?? How fucking stupid is that? I get it that they want to show the Cuck Knight suffer, but that's just poor writing. The Citadel would have access to opiates and fatso boy would know how to use them, especially cause he's going to be Maester for a purely military regime. He says it's important for the Cuck to keep it Shut, but he doesn't think to drug him with opiates?

Bad all around.

[Victorio]

I also want to comment on how fucking stupid the Greyscale surgery scene is. OKAY the acting is actually really good, I loved the performance and it looked super nasty, and then the cut to the pie was well executed so good editing. This here is an old fashioned critique of writing, gents.

So we have the fatso fuck capable of stealing all these rare and strange ingredients to cure the cuck knight's grayscale. But the best painkiller he can offer is Rum?? REALLY?? How fucking stupid is that? I get it that they want to show the Cuck Knight suffer, but that's just poor writing. The Citadel would have access to opiates and fatso boy would know how to use them, especially cause he's going to be Maester for a purely military regime. He says it's important for the Cuck to keep it Shut, but he doesn't think to drug him with opiates?

Bad all around.

Milk of the poppy was locked in the restricted section dude

[Sirken]

Milk of the poppy was locked in the restricted section dude

so were those books he stole ;)

[skarlorn]

cersei is going to marry the nightking for SURE

[Uuruk]

Nightking is going to merc one of Dannys dragons, rez the dragon into an undead nightmare, and ride to glorious conquest over the North after he uses said dragon to destroy The Wall

Yes, we have all read the spoilers by this point.

[gummab]

This shit is too painful to watch.

[Ahldagor]

Nightking is going to merc one of Dannys dragons, rez the dragon into an undead nightmare, and ride to glorious conquest over the North after he uses said dragon to destroy The Wall

Spoiler or not, team Night's King.

[sofa king]

Just glad theres a kingdom out there that has no gender identities !! Ruin every popular series

[Trungep99]

Did anyone else see the video of the theory behind the night king's identy ?
I think they figured it out, makes perfect sense. If this guy is right it is a complete spoiler.
I apologize if this topic was posted before , too many comments to review everything

https://youtu.be/_y1w4Fvz3S4

[Sear]

I watched ep2 after catching part 11 of Twin Peaks the Return. It's just not even on the same caliber of quality of writing, directing, cohesiveness, art, etc. I am glad there's such quality coming out (thanks Frost & Lynch and the incredible cast) but also WOW does GoT suck my cocc now.

Still gonna watch it.

Did you really just cite TWIN PEAKS as an example of cohesive writing? lol

I love Twin Peaks, but the new season has been borderline unwatchable. Endless vacant stares between the characters and David Lynch Does Abstract Art scenes. The humor and character development/relationships of the first two seasons is barely even there, and "Cooper is a functional vegetable but nobody else notices" thing is just fucking irritating at this point. I like a lot of the horror (e.g., episode 8 charcoal hobos), but it has been rough to watch so far.

New season of GoT feels a little rushed, but I'm still loving it.

SquidBowl delivered. I don't care for the pickup artist makeover version of Euron dropping negs on Cersei, but I appreciate that he murdered 2/3 sand snakes. He's the hero of the show now, right?

[Trungep99]

Been reading some theories about Bran being the Night King. Seems like some pretty compelling stuff, anyone care to comment?

I agree. I won't be surprised if the theories are correct

[Rogean]

Especially stern cringe for the Arya sequence at Hogshead Inn with her overly curt replies, DOUBLE especially stern cringe for the Arya and wolves sequence. "It wasn't you" she says with a shitty little cuck smirk.

I actually disagree here. I think her acting was fine for these scenes. She's basically showing a part of The Hound with her short answers.

Then the wolf scene, you could understand through her facial expressions how she came to understand that Nymeria has chosen her own path now, much like Arya has.

[skarlorn]

Did you really just cite TWIN PEAKS as an example of cohesive writing? lol

I love Twin Peaks, but the new season has been borderline unwatchable. Endless vacant stares between the characters and David Lynch Does Abstract Art scenes. The humor and character development/relationships of the first two seasons is barely even there, and "Cooper is a functional vegetable but nobody else notices" thing is just fucking irritating at this point. I like a lot of the horror (e.g., episode 8 charcoal hobos), but it has been rough to watch so far.
?

Did u catch ep 11 yet? Incredibly good. But I can understand the pace and abstract art scenes are not appealing to some people. And yes, I certainly cite Twin Peaks as an example of good writing, good acting, and good directing. :)

Would you have preferred Coop return from a 25 year stint in the Black Lodge, which he ultimately was almost blocked from returning, and regained all his mental faculties? If you're watching TP and expecting the show to go how you'd expect, you're in for a bad time.

How about the character development of people like Janey-E, Constance Talbot, Diane, Tammy, Gordon Cole, the repeat of Denise; let's not forget Bobby, Coop's Doppelganger basically being a mythic force of evil, and the beautiful (highly abstract) scenes portraying the Lodge backstory... I'm surprised you think there isn't good character development.

Definitely some parts are hokey, some parts are not understood yet... but the pacing of this show is different and fresh. The visuals are amazing. The acting is very, very good.

I get it that I'm a hardcore Lynch fan and people who had certain expectations struggle to enjoy the show. I really hope you can get more out of it in the next eps dude!

I actually disagree here. I think her acting was fine for these scenes. She's basically showing a part of The Hound with her short answers.

Then the wolf scene, you could understand through her facial expressions how she came to understand that Nymeria has chosen her own path now, much like Arya has.

So you think that was Nymeria? I like the idea that she internalized the Hound and it's sort of re-emerged as she came back to Westeros. It also feels more cohesive if I think about it in terms of Arya/Hound theme, where she exhibits hound-behavior socially, grabbing food and being curt, then she goes and has a meeting with her old Wolf(hound)

good point big dog rog!

[Sear]

I'm only up to ep. 9.

I'm fine with the trademark Lynch weirdness (loved Eraserhead), but I just think it's about as accessible to casual viewers as Tree of Life or Lars von Trier farting for two hours. The original series struck a perfect balance between David Lynch being David Lynch and actually staying coherent.

Cooper actually having a personality was a huge part of the appeal of the show. What he's doing now is more like he's taking a decent idea (Coop is a vegetable because of the lodge) and stretching it to be a cruel joke for what I expect will be all 18 episodes. Weekend At Bernie's was not creative or interesting to me, so yeah, I'd much preferred that he regain mental faculties early in the season. Naomi Watts is likable enough and I'd fuck the tits off Tammy, but character development has taken a backseat to these lengthy abstract sequences. I still enjoy the show, though.

Arya and the Hound are gradually swapping their personalities.

Sansa is also showing some of that Cersei paranoia & politicking. Jon was Ned when he slammed Pedofinger against the wall. I think all of the younger characters on the show are exhibiting behavior that mirrors the adults they've learned from.

[Patriam1066]

Jon is an idiot

Alienate everyone up north + littlefinger

Good plan dude. Almost as good as taking casterly rock instead of KL when you're on dragonstone, IE right next to blackwater bay

The show is garbage. I'm glad I don't pay for HBO.

[AenorVZ]

I love how Danny's plan is so convoluted that Preston and Carmine, two huge nerds, can't make heads or tails of it.

[beyondinfin]

Im sad. The GoT show has gotten so terrible. I wouldn't even watch it if it weren't for the goddamn spoilers EVERYWHERE 5 mins after it airs. Anyone else think Littlefinger is fuking doomed? I feel like D&D were not told much about his masterplan from GRRM, and as a result he has kinda served his "purpose". WTF was the point of him talking to Jon last episode and just pushing his buttons? If he doesnt leave Winterfeld for the Eyre like ASAP I think hes dead meat. I also get the feeling since the Freys are somehow all dead the Brotherhood without Banners has served it's purpose and is also gonna be on the chopping block soon.

I'm more excited for Twin Peaks when the weekend arrives. Show is FUKING amazing and a great palet cleaser after the now clusterfuck GoT.

[AzzarTheGod]

I'm more excited for Twin Peaks when the weekend arrives. Show is FUKING amazing and a great palet cleaser after the now clusterfuck GoT.


Twin Peaks is where its at.

[beyondinfin]

When is Cooper coming back? Seems like Lynch might save it til the damn last couple episodes...if we're lucky!

[AzzarTheGod]

When is Cooper coming back? Seems like Lynch might save it til the damn last couple episodes...if we're lucky!

Sirks might let us discuss Twin Peaks in this thread-- but I'm not going to test that theory ;)

[skarlorn]

Confirmed need a TP thread.

I'M ON IT BOYS

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I think last nights GoT confirmed the Night King = Brandon Stark Theory. Littlefinger gives a pretty -WOKE- lecture to Sansa about using Schroedinger's cat and Quantum Universes as a method for perception and planning. I was watching this scene and immediately thought about Bran, being the three eyed raven, seeing all timelines etc.

Then, guess what? Brandon stark under Godtree w/ Sansa is the next scene.

Peter Littlefinger definitely on the wokebiz and I really do hope he marries Sansa, because, you know, he's just sooo dreamy ;)

Pretty good ep all around I'd say. Daenyrs acting p good this time, the Squidboy enjoying his status was really funny. I thought they did a good job setting up the parallels between Cersei getting her vengeance on the Snakeprincess and her daughter was good because it's like "OK well cersei is murdering the girl, but the girl's mom murdered CERSEI's girl so she's not really THAT evil heh..." and then Old TowerLady pulls the wool over Onehand-Prettyboy's eyes, sips down the nice poison, then strokes off about killing his son.

[Pokesan]

I know I'm not allowed here but anything concrete yet from the HBO hack today? We gettin dem thrones?

[sthoma63]

So Jon leaves Winterfell without seeing Bran. That's kind of annoying me. Someone just fucking tell him already. I hate when writers dangle story-changing revelations to main characters in front of the viewers.

If I remember right last week Bran was at Castle Black and Jon was at Winterfell.

[HouseTargaryen]

Game of Thrones is getting good. Looking forward to seeing Bran expose Littlefinger.

[dafier]

I don't know if Bran will have a chance to. Aria is going to stab him ....and fast.

And yes, Bran was at Castle Black, then traveled to Winterfell but before getting there Jon hopped on a horse to see his new bride and check out his new dragon. :)

[AenorVZ]

Thought it was super dumb that Melly suggested Danny summon Jon, then Melly is like "welp guess I'll take off now, I'm sure I wouldn't have anything to add to this conversation."

[Sear]

That part was fine, since hype knight Davos basically said he'd kill her if they ever met again.

What I don't understand is how Bran continues to act severely autistic.

http://i.imgur.com/IUzyrsP.jpg

[chris.hijiri]

That part was fine, since hype knight Davos basically said he'd kill her if they ever met again.

What I don't understand is how Bran continues to act severely autistic.

http://i.imgur.com/IUzyrsP.jpg

First time in a while that the first three episodes were really good.

bran is the three-eyed Raven now and not necessarily an ally, more like The Observer from Marvel Comics so he's not going to just start running around telling everybody what all the bad guys are doing

[HouseTargaryen]

Do you think Jon Snow is down for some Incest relationship with Daenerys? Is it out of his character? Will they sleep together before finding out the truth that he is in fact a Targaryen?

[Uuruk]

Do you think Jon Snow is down for some Incest relationship with Daenerys? Is it out of his character? Will they sleep together before finding out the truth that he is in fact a Targaryen?

Ya, they bang on a boat in a couple episodes.

[AenorVZ]

Best episode since s1?

[Rogean]

Do you think Jon Snow is down for some Incest relationship with Daenerys? Is it out of his character? Will they sleep together before finding out the truth that he is in fact a Targaryen?

Episode 7 Spoiler

As mentioned, they will have sex on a boat. It's the second to last scene of episode 7, kind of intertwined with a scene of Sam and Bran discovering that Rhaegar annulled his marriage and re-married to Lyanna before Jon was born. Sam finds the annulment script, while Bran WargFlashbacks to the wedding, and also the Tower of Joy scene again where this time we can hear what she says.

[eadric]

She's his aunt, so it's only mild incest by Targaryen standards, as they normally married brother-sister.

Only in GoT...

[Sage Truthbearer]

That battle was pretty fucking awesome. Bron probably should have died though, they better have something good planned for him after all that plot armor.

[HouseTargaryen]

Heres a link to Emergency Awesome on Youtube. He does amazing breakdowns of Game of Thrones if anyone here likes a little more than just watching the episodes.

link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aufPSAyoaPk

[Ahldagor]

That battle was pretty fucking awesome. Bron probably should have died though, they better have something good planned for him after all that plot armor.

Was a grwat scene. Dragon broke the line and the Dothraki were efficient like ants on a corpse. Don't know why she blazed the supply wagons tho'. Won't be surprised if Jamie is a prisoner.

[dafier]

Jaime is going to die, Arya is going to use his face and ....you know the rest.

I'd love to see that but doubt there is truth to it. It would also fulfill the prophecy.

[Rogean]

Episode 5 Spoiler

Jaimie and Bronn escape, neither get captured nor die.

[AzzarTheGod]

Does anyone have the full spoilers. The sites that have them are AIDS and require a bunch of search queries to dig through the trash fake spoilers. Too many fan fiction idiots posting their version of spoilers.

I've never seen a link to a pastebin.

[dafier]

Episode 5 Spoiler


Which makes no sense at all unless Aquaman lives...IN THAT PARTICULAR AREA! And this isn't a normal lake...because the drop off from the shore is fucking real....only time I've seen a drop off like that is in a former mining pit.

[AenorVZ]

Yeah that was super dumb. Five feet from shore and into the abyss. Great episode though.

[skarlorn]

not to mention jaimie is in plate armor and would sink like FCking rock. But i'm sure he'll get saved because he was a brave, beautiful idiot.

Very nice work on that episode, very cummy cinematography i would say *strokes fu manchu*

I'm realy hoping Jon and Daenyrs start piggling each others wigglers and then it's revealed that they are actualy related, that Jon is a bastard of Daeny's dad. And then they piggle each other's wiggles anyway over the corpses of Jaimie and Cersei. I think that would be really great, because they could condemn the incest perversion and then go on to make their own little incest babies.

[dafier]

not to mention jaimie is in plate armor and would sink like FCking rock. But i'm sure he'll get saved because he was a brave, beautiful idiot.

Very nice work on that episode, very cummy cinematography i would say *strokes fu manchu*

I'm realy hoping Jon and Daenyrs start piggling each others wigglers and then it's revealed that they are actualy related, that Jon is a bastard of Daeny's dad. And then they piggle each other's wiggles anyway over the corpses of Jaimie and Cersei. I think that would be really great, because they could condemn the incest perversion and then go on to make their own little incest babies.

I think they are cousins....not half/half bro/sis.

http://gameofthrones.wikia.com/wiki/Daenerys_Targaryen

Jon's parents are Rhaegar and Stark girl, not Aery and Stark girl.

So, cousins isn't so bad. There are several states in the US that allow first cousin marriage. Just sayin'

And yes, he did sink due to the armor as seen in the closing seconds, but like I said, maybe it was a mining area or something.

He will live and get taken hostage ...I just hope Brawn doesn't die. I really like his character.

[Rogean]

Dany is Jon's aunt.

Episode 7 Spoiler
They bone as the second to last scene of episode 7, at the same time that Sam and Bran piece together that he is a trueborn son of a married Rhaegar and Lyanna

[Rogean]

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[dafier]

Oh ya... Rhaegar is the son of the mad king. /facepalm

[skarlorn]

Rog spoiling GoT for me hardcore and I love it.

I don't really understand Targaryen family tree so I think I see what's going on now.

It sounds like if Jon is the trueborn king of an eloped stark/rhaegar wouldn't he have a better claim to the throne than Daeny?

And that would really mess up Jon's ability to get laid with any of the remaining hot noblewomen of the Seven Kingdoms, cause like... Daeny and Sansa are both related to him.

Not like that matter >:)

[AenorVZ]

If my aunt looked like that, I'd give her the Drogo style.

[Rogean]

It sounds like if Jon is the trueborn king of an eloped stark/rhaegar wouldn't he have a better claim to the throne than Daeny?

Yes, he is the next targaryen in line.

And that would really mess up Jon's ability to get laid with any of the remaining hot noblewomen of the Seven Kingdoms, cause like... Daeny and Sansa are both related to him.

Not like that matter >:)

It doesn't matter ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)

[AzzarTheGod]

If my aunt looked like that, I'd give her the Drogo style.

Some things transcend cultural norms!

*daps hammer*

[HouseTargaryen]

Episode 6 is awesome

[dafier]

Arya Stark ain't going to fall for little fingers BS. Funny he thinks that he's still in the game. She gonna stab his ass.

[AzzarTheGod]

Episode 6 is awesome

its B.A. baracus my man just str8 BA baracus.

*daps hammer*

[Canelek]

Hard to say regarding the Littlefinger shenanigans. Could sisterly rivalry win out over smartypants Faceless training?

Narrative-wise, I just do not know.

Also, impressive swimming by Team Jai-Bro.

Installing teleporters this season made travel a breeze! Team Euron was truly on its game, but his swarthy navigation may have been an exploit.

[username17]

6 was amazing. Night king and his... Night WING.

[skarlorn]

fuck i gotta not click this thread until i watch the leaked ep

[Rivera]

New episode was pretty great. Lots of funny dialogue between the people in the north.

[gummab]

GoT went Hollywood.

Suppose I just have to hold out hope for AHS season 7.

[AenorVZ]

his swarthy navigation may have been an exploit.

Ha ... what gms?

[HouseTargaryen]

What Does Jon Snow Being A Targaryen Mean For 'Game Of Thrones'?
Daenerys is already looking to spread for him and they will most likely have sex before he finds out? Either way when they get married they will rule together. Does it matter that he is a Targaryen?

[Sage Truthbearer]

Pfft noobs shouldn't have let The Hound tank he couldn't hold aggro got the healer killed.

[AzzarTheGod]

they had to kill the healer off for plot credibility as long as he's alive the rez question is spammed

pk and boot the healer, no more rez question spam in OOC and groupchat.

[skarlorn]

daeny was hot in that last ep ; )

[Rivera]

Pfft noobs shouldn't have let The Hound tank he couldn't hold aggro got the healer killed. LMFAO.

daeny was hot in that last ep ; ) Good lord Emilia Clarke is a babe. White looks good on her.


Season 4 and up has been filled with plot conveniences and fan service, but it's still enjoyable. I'm invested in the story so I'll continue to watch and not neckbeard out and complain about the pacing and writing being incredibly sloppy to downright bad at parts.

At least the acting is great, and the story is interesting. Still tons better than a lot of very popular shows (Walking Dead). First three seasons were really on another level though. It's gotten far with fairly talentless showrunners.

I'm hearing rumblings of a Roberts Rebellion or a Dunk and Egg series. Wonder if they'll go all out for them if it does come to fruition, or if they'll just be half assed projects for a quick cash grab coming off the roaring success of GoT.

[chris.hijiri]

Ugh. My three-year-old could have wrote that episode.

The other episodes were pretty good leading up to this one what the fuck.

[paulgiamatti]

Pfft noobs shouldn't have let The Hound tank he couldn't hold aggro got the healer killed.

He was skilling up his 2HB, give him a break bro

[AzzarTheGod]

He was skilling up his 2HB, give him a break bro

nah was the cause of rez spamming they got sick of it

already mic-dropped that comment, ur late paul and you didn't do any better. so you can go kick rocks

[Sirken]

i mean.. the good news is that there is no way the show is going to ruin the book :)

[Patriam1066]

i mean.. the good news is that there is no way the show is going to ruin the book :)

Yeah man. Episode 6 was garbage

Agree with filbus though Dany was looking fine as hell

[AzzarTheGod]

Yeah man. Episode 6 was garbage

Agree with filbus though Dany was looking fine as hell

She's looking good past few episodes and her acting has come up a notch. Still probably the worst actor on the show, but these last couple episodes she has had some good scenes.

Last season she was clearly "overweight" for her character. Dany was pretty fat for the screen at one point.

All of the media had commented on it, so I am guessing she decided to diet down for season 7, and it worked out pretty well.

[Rogean]

#AeJon #BoatSex

[katrik]

Jon right now https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=avaSdC0QOUM

[Rogean]

Jon right now https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=avaSdC0QOUM

and https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lQlIhraqL7o

[Patriam1066]

Very predictable

Too easy for baelish to get tricked like that. Thanks for the Theon screen time. Dan and Dave are very very bad

[mickmoranis]

super predictable, i dont think anyone didnt call an undead dragon long ago let alone anyone not knowing that one that was dragged out of the lake was going to blow through the wall.

I thought a lot of the good scenes just felt flat, jsut bad film directing.

like the undead scene, everything was shot at eye level, no dramatic build up, no music, just kick over a box and a crapy zombie runs around and does nothing.

really un thrilling

but all the trade craft and stuff was good..

basically the story is good, the story telling was pretty boring.

The end was just like, look a cartoon shooting a wall, wow... thrilling :rolleyes:

[skarlorn]

#AeJon #BoatSex

"we'll sail together," daeny said to Jon with a slutty tone to her voice.

ser jorah the cucksworn paled. Not again.

[mickmoranis]

im happy jhon and that girl banged finally

[chadtwoke]

Synopsis of Season 8 Episode 1 leaked:

"Ser Jorah storms into Jon Snows chambers and sucks his cock to get a taste of Dany's pussy"

[chadtwoke]

super predictable, i dont think anyone didnt call an undead dragon long ago let alone anyone not knowing that one that was dragged out of the lake was going to blow through the wall.

I thought a lot of the good scenes just felt flat, jsut bad film directing.

like the undead scene, everything was shot at eye level, no dramatic build up, no music, just kick over a box and a crapy zombie runs around and does nothing.

really un thrilling

but all the trade craft and stuff was good..

basically the story is good, the story telling was pretty boring.

The end was just like, look a cartoon shooting a wall, wow... thrilling :rolleyes:


Wow you guys are so smaht...must be awesome sitting there scowling at the screen with your arms crossed not enjoying the epicness because you predicted everything beforehand. It's a fantasy show not Breaking Bad, just enjoy it for what it is for fucks sake.

[beargryllz]

DAE Jon bangs Dany on a boat?

[AzzarTheGod]

SJW storyline baelish sucks but that's D&D creativity level

Just praying GRRM doesn't SJW the baelish conclusion

[AzzarTheGod]

Very predictable

Too easy for baelish to get tricked like that. Thanks for the Theon screen time. Dan and Dave are very very bad

Cringing pretty hard definitely a sour taste finale.

More disappointed than season 6. It's just insulting the shit they are shoveling with GRRM's characters

[username17]

im happy jhon and that girl banged finally

You're happy John banged his Aunt?

[brightlights]

yea man incest is in right now

[AzzarTheGod]

The Baelish conclusion would have been fine if they didn't already do the same play in Season 6 as far as reversing the game on him goes. They should have continued building him up for the big fall and deleted the Season 6 finale scene.

The reason why the Baelish conclusion isn't good writing is because of a lot of different reasons, but transparency is the biggest one.

Anyway season 7, the dead screen time they spent on episodes 1-3, and the rapid progression of storyline would seem to signal that they aren't comfortable writing without source material. Not that they can't, but that they WILL NOT.

I believe D&D refused to find writers to write.

This season also confirms the spin-off shows and D&D's lack of involvement as a positive. Someone had mentioned that D&D are just bro-fans of the books and that they told GRRM R+L=whatever and GRRM gave them the job based on them being able to figure it out on their own from reading the books.

[Rogean]

Jon is no longer an acceptable name in this thread. He shall now be referred to as Aegon. AeJon is also acceptable.

That is all.

[Ahldagor]

The Baelish conclusion would have been fine if they didn't already do the same play in Season 6 as far as reversing the game on him goes. They should have continued building him up for the big fall and deleted the Season 6 finale scene.

The reason why the Baelish conclusion isn't good writing is because of a lot of different reasons, but transparency is the biggest one.

Anyway season 7, the dead screen time they spent on episodes 1-3, and the rapid progression of storyline would seem to signal that they aren't comfortable writing without source material. Not that they can't, but that they WILL NOT.

I believe D&D refused to find writers to write.

This season also confirms the spin-off shows and D&D's lack of involvement as a positive. Someone had mentioned that D&D are just bro-fans of the books and that they told GRRM R+L=whatever and GRRM gave them the job based on them being able to figure it out on their own from reading the books.

It showed Sansa thinking for her self, the Stark family resolve, and the satisfaction of vengeance for dead Ned. Those kids are tight and only have themselves.

[dafier]

Predictions for season 8:

1. Aegon will find out who he is on the first episode.

2. Daenerys will say she is pregnant by the 3rd episode.

3. Bran will worg a dragon....jk that's stupid. Bran will become a HUGE asset in season 8 and will be one of the characters that won't die.

4. Theon will some how magically not die, but his sister and uncle will and he will be weak ass king of the iron isle who WILL bend the knee to Aegon.

5. Arya and Sansa have a high chance of dying. If they don't they will become autistic and Bran will rename them to Hodor.

6. Varys will die.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FfBwsG8ubFw

[skarlorn]

Predictions for season 8:

1. Aegon will find out who he is on the first episode.

2. Daenerys will say she is pregnant by the 3rd episode.

3. Bran will worg a dragon....jk that's stupid. Bran will become a HUGE asset in season 8 and will be one of the characters that won't die.

4. Theon will some how magically not die, but his sister and uncle will and he will be weak ass king of the iron isle who WILL bend the knee to Aegon.

5. Arya and Sansa have a high chance of dying. If they don't they will become autistic and Bran will rename them to Hodor.

6. Varys will die.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FfBwsG8ubFw

lets add:

7. Cersei isn't actually pregnant, she's been conning Jaimie and Tyrion with the lie.
8. Jon will at one point say about Daeny, after the reveal that they're related, these exact words, "But, I love her."
9. The Hound will find TRUE LOVE. Whatever that means for him!
10. Nerds will dislike season 8 more than any other season yet

[dafier]

Jon is no longer an acceptable name in this thread. He shall now be referred to as Aegon. AeJon is also acceptable.

That is all.

Skarlorn please see above. :rolleyes:

[Silvurwolf]

cersei ditches fam and hooks up with night king

[dafier]

cersei ditches fam and hooks up with night king

You mean she rides the Night King's dragon? I thought she is already a internally cold bitch. :eek:

[Patriam1066]

cersei ditches fam and hooks up with night king

I like it

[Ahldagor]

cersei ditches fam and hooks up with night king

Third the motion. Team Night's King.

[dafier]

Third the motion. Team Night's King.

Heard the Night King is going to be played by a new actor in Season 8. confirm?

http://i.imgur.com/02RIZbY.gif

[Sirken]

Been reading some theories about Bran being the Night King. Seems like some pretty compelling stuff, anyone care to comment?
Did anyone else see the video of the theory behind the night king's identy? I think they figured it out, makes perfect sense. If this guy is right it is a complete spoiler. I apologize if this topic was posted before , too many comments to review everything

Dumb. If Bran was the Night King, and the Three Eyed Raven had been watching them their entire lives, and could foresee all the things that needed to happen, then he would have just killed Bran before ever teaching him how to use his powers and ended the Night King before it began. Also, if you read any of GRRM's other books, you'll see more than one of them deal with time travel. The way GRRM gets around time paradoxes like this one are to not allow the physical person to time travel, but to instead have the person project their consciousness back through time. At best, I think that is what Bran is doing and is capable of.



So you think that was Nymeria? I like the idea that she internalized the Hound and it's sort of re-emerged as she came back to Westeros. It also feels more cohesive if I think about it in terms of Arya/Hound theme, where she exhibits hound-behavior socially, grabbing food and being curt, then she goes and has a meeting with her old Wolf(hound) good point big dog rog!
it was 100% Nymeria, the show-runners confirmed it after the episode. We also know from the books that Nymeria has a super pack of wolves and that together they have been terrorizing the riverlands, which is where Arya is when she bumps into the Direwolf (Nymeria)


Jon is an idiot
Jon vs Mance = Jon is saved by Stannis
Jon vs Ramsay = Jon is saved by Baelish
Jon vs Nights King = Jon is Saved by Dany
Cersei will agree if Jon says the right thing = Jon says wrong thing

Literally every idea Jon has had has resulted in someone saving his skin, or making a situation harder than it needs to be. As a wise woman once said; you know nothing Jon Snow.


I love how Danny's plan is so retarded that Preston and Carmine, two huge nerds, can't make heads or tails of it.
FTFY


GoT went Hollywood.
its quickly just turning into lord of the rings. pretty good guys, ugly bad guys, good guys win with minor nerds killed off, and the world is safe. I understand that they no longer have book material to go off of, but i mean fuck. if they understood the books at all, they'd understand that one of the greatest things about GoT was it smashing all the genre's tropes, and now the show-runners are just following RandomHollywoodScript_01

[Sirken]

ser jorah the cucksworn paled. Not again.
I believe his proper title is Ser Friendzone

im happy jhon and that girl banged finally
horray for people fucking their aunties I guess.

The Baelish conclusion would have been fine if they didn't already do the same play in Season 6 as far as reversing the game on him goes. They should have continued building him up for the big fall and deleted the Season 6 finale scene.
The reason why the Baelish conclusion isn't good writing is because of a lot of different reasons, but transparency is the biggest one.
Anyway season 7, the dead screen time they spent on episodes 1-3, and the rapid progression of storyline would seem to signal that they aren't comfortable writing without source material. Not that they can't, but that they WILL NOT.
I believe D&D refused to find writers to write.
This season also confirms the spin-off shows and D&D's lack of involvement as a positive. Someone had mentioned that D&D are just bro-fans of the books and that they told GRRM R+L=whatever and GRRM gave them the job based on them being able to figure it out on their own from reading the books.
you hit the nail on the head. they were great at adapting the book to screen, but hell are they bad without book. they've had no idea what to do with Baelish since season 4 ended and it shows. I feel like they just care about the "surprise" reveal and give no shits about any of it making sense anymore. And I'm sorry, but there's no universe where Arya and Sansa out play Baelish at his own game. :mad:

[Sirken]

Jon is no longer an acceptable name in this thread. He shall now be referred to as Aegon. AeJon is also acceptable.
That is all.
Also dumb. Rhaegar marries Elia, they have 2 children named Rhaenys and Aegon. Rhaegar meets Lyanna at the tourney at Harrenhall, within 12 months Rhaegar then secretly annuls his marriage to Elia, absconds with Lyanna then travels roughly 2,000 miles south to the northern part of Dorne, then marries Lyanna. Then Rickard and Brandon Stark are killed by the Mad King, Robert's Rebellion breaks out, and Rhaegar believes he can kill Robert and end the war. So Rhaegar leaves preggo Lyanna at the Tower of Joy with Ser Arthur Dayne (literally the greatest fighter in the history of Westeros), and rides off to fight Robert. As you all know, Rhaegar dies. Then Tywin sacks the city, Robert & Ned arrive at KL, and the corpses of Rhaenys and Aegon are presented to Robert as proof of Tywin's loyalty. Robert is wounded at this point, and so Ned travels without him to lift the siege at Storm's End (rescuing Stannis), and then travels down to the Tower of Joy, has a 7 vs 3 mortal kombat with the King's Guard, runs inside the tower, and finds Lyanna lying in a bed of blood asking Ned to keep a promise. Lyanna was hidden away at the Tower of Joy, and since everyone knew Rhaegar was not there, there's no point to send a raven to the ToJ, furthermore, no one from Robert's side would have sent a raven to a supposed Targaryen held location with updates. And I'm suppose to believe that Lyanna said "fuck Elia, fuck baby Aegon, and fuck Rhaegar. I'm naming him Aegon cause I want to". I just don't buy it. I suspect they are going to merge some Young Griff story into Jon, or, they are just giving the finger to book readers on this one. In the book, I still expect his name to be Aemon for a few different reasons.

It showed Sansa thinking for her self, the Stark family resolve, and the satisfaction of vengeance for dead Ned. Those kids are tight and only have themselves.
lol no. Sansa and Arya's fued was very real. there's a deleted scene of Sansa going to Bran and asking for help, and Bran taps into wierwood.net to tell her all of Baelish's fuckery. It had absolutely nothing to do with Sansa thinking for herself, and everything to do with Sansa having an omniscient demigod-like little brother. Arya and Sansa have never, ever been "tight" with each other.

Heard the Night King is going to be played by a new actor in Season 8. confirm?
doesn't matter, they've already replaced him once in the past, and still haven't replaced him more times than the actor(s) playing Gregor Clegane.

[dafier]

@Sirken

I've not read the entire book series however from what I have read and little tidbits online; Layanna and Rhaegar according to the books didn't have a child. And, Layanna died in the tower after suffering some type of wounds and catching a fever. What the hell am I missing?

Is the child (*Jon Snow) only introduced in the TV series, or do I need to read the books and save face?

[Sage Truthbearer]

its quickly just turning into lord of the rings. pretty good guys, ugly bad guys, good guys win with minor nerds killed off, and the world is safe. I understand that they no longer have book material to go off of, but i mean fuck. if they understood the books at all, they'd understand that one of the greatest things about GoT was it smashing all the genre's tropes, and now the show-runners are just following RandomHollywoodScript_01

Yeah, the amount of plot armor lately has been frustrating. Characters miraculously survive situations over and over and over again. Overall I think the worst example of that is Arya, I can't count the number of times she should've died. You just have to kinda accept the fact that it's basically LoTR at this point and enjoy the show knowing that it's unlikely the books (should they ever come out) will follow.

[katrik]

I'm satisfied... I try to remember this is just a TV show, that has been trying to wrap itself up. It can't possibly go into everything I would like it to. The only thing I'm really mad about is having to wait 2 years to see the ending.

[mickmoranis]

Seems like john is actually the true heir to the throne not kahlesi and now that theyre banging thats going to be pretty dramatic.

[dafier]

I didn't know if any of the books mentioned Lyanna and her birth, but I was just corrected by someone who knows.

I do find it silly that it's mentioned that Arya and Sansa wouldn't out wit Baelish. The truth is in the books Sansa was in the Vale for a long time and Arya was still training in Bravos. The TV series does expand with the sisters and Little Finger meets his end with a pretty good story that expands nicely past the books. After all the 2 sisters have learned throughout their journeys, it makes complete sense that they would use womanly deception to out play Little Finger. Kind of an irony if you think about it.

[AenorVZ]

Ugh. My three-year-old could have wrote that episode.

The other episodes were pretty good leading up to this one what the fuck.

Season went limp.

[AenorVZ]

10. Nerds will dislike season 8 more than any other season yet

Whoah going out on a limb there buddy.

[AzzarTheGod]

Whoah going out on a limb there buddy.

Smilin hard.