2020 Election MEGAthread

[Jibartik]

Remember that time a few words / pictures offended you so badly you had an entire channel nuked?

https://i.imgur.com/uJrCujq.jpeg

now that's a funny pic

now do one for we have a sin problem :p

[booter]

imagine being online enough to be part of a 21 year old elf sim

now imagine being at least that technologically literate, but still believing the most obviously faked "scandal" in modern history

imagine believing hunter biden, elbow deep in a conspiracy to make a ton of money by giving some ukrainians access to his dad, drops off a water logged laptop at some random laptop shop.

imagine thinking he then never returns to get it. the shop owner then decides to call the FBI to report this laptop and before they can take it, makes a copy of the hard drive. upon realizing what he really has, very incriminating emails between the son of the vice president and some gas and power guys gives the hard drive to rudy.

imagine thinking rudy then knowing he holds evidence of a crime hands the emails over to the r e s p e c t a b l e nypost and not the FBI. then the newspaper reports these emails without doing even a modicum of research to see if the meeting alleged on the incriminating emails ever happened.

imagine believing this repair shop guy mac isaac has a medical condition that prevents him from actually seeing who dropped off the laptop but that he believed it to be hunter biden’s because of a sticker related to the beau biden foundation that was on it. he said that hunter biden actually dropped off three laptops for repair, an abundance of hardware that he chalked up to the biden son being “rich".

imagine believing all of that, and not all the actual news sources that wouldn't post it because it is veritably garbage, because don't worry i see it on all of my alt-right discords and news sources, and of course here on off-topic which is p99's alt-right subforum for angry men who have been radicalized by russian disinfo.

imagine actually being in the 18-40 year old range and supporting donald trump rofl just rofl

[douglas1999]

The whole "imagine" thing is getting really stale god it sucks. Beginning a sentence with imagine doesn't act as a surrogate for a coherent argument.

Imagine being utterly incapable of changing your mind or being persuaded by evidence if it means you might have to agree with somebody on the right about something. I agree with people on the left on tons of shit, I consider myself on the left generally, but when somebody on the right makes a completely cogent argument or at least presents evidence something should be investigated I don't go "eeeek oh no! I must find a way to disagree with this!". I completely supported trump being investigated for russia collusion, unfortunately it turned out not to have a shred of evidence to support it, so I changed my mind. This is not that.

[Pretzelle]

The whole "imagine" thing is getting really stale god it sucks. Beginning a sentence with imagine doesn't act as a surrogate for a coherent argument.

Imagine being utterly incapable of changing your mind or being persuaded by evidence if it means you might have to agree with somebody on the right about something. I agree with people on the left on tons of shit, I consider myself on the left generally, but when somebody on the right makes a completely cogent argument or at least presents evidence something should be investigated I don't go "eeeek oh no! I must find a way to disagree with this!". I completely supported trump being investigated for russia collusion, unfortunately it turned out not to have a shred of evidence to support it, so I changed my mind. This is not that.

You are not on the left. You're a hack of a troll. You're a Trump cultist and won't deviate from the red hat handbook

[douglas1999]

The "alt-right" is yet another figment of your imagination btw. It's right up there with white supreeeemmacccyyyyy oh nooooo. People keep telling me it's everywhere! So it must be!

I love at the trump townhall they yet again roll out the "do you condemn white supremacy" question, which he has unequivocally answered like a billion times. Then they say "weeeeelllll you didn't quite answer it to my liking". Like yeah, because it probably gets annoying to be asked the same idiotic leading question over and over, instead of asking him about specifically policy and things actually germain to governing a powerful country, which is what journalists are typically supposed to do. Being a big partisan hostile douchebag seems to be the new model though, which is super great for the country.

[douglas1999]

You are not on the left. You're a hack of a troll. You're a Trump cultist and won't deviate from the red hat handbook

Tell me more about who I am, person I've never met. Seriously can you even concede that left wing extremism is a thing? Any idiot can recognize when the right goes to far, people on the right denounce them. Almost nobody on the left is willing to recognize when the left goes too far, because they have this self-serving tacit assumption that they are always the good guys. The left is pushing joe fuckin biden, one of the most useless establishment politicians in history, and acting as if it's some act of punk rock rebellion. It is exactly the opposite, it's safe and cozy and easy to do.

[Raev]

do you condemn white supremacy
So what exactly is White Supremacy anyway? The urban dictionary claims it is a 'preference for vanilla ice cream' which hardly seems like a huge problem . . .

136 posts
Serious question Pretzelle: why do you keep posting? I certainly haven't read every single post but I don't remember a single case of you convincing anyone of anything. If you are 0/136 there, what exactly are you trying to do?

[Woke Locc]

what are some left wings thing you believe in Dougy

we're reluctant to believe you because we've seen this shtick from a million idiot trolls of the beanie patrol

[kjs86z]

The "alt-right" is yet another figment of your imagination btw. It's right up there with white supreeeemmacccyyyyy oh nooooo. People keep telling me it's everywhere! So it must be!


What the left calls "alt right" is really just normal, productive people tired of all the bullshit (BLM, protests, anti-patriotism, defund police, etc) and degeneracy (forced LGBTQApacheAttackHelicopter+ acceptance and education on young children, etc).

In their eyes we're bigots if we don't want our children exposed to sexually explicit topics at a young age and we're Nazis because we love our country and honor those that have fought and died for it.

[Jibartik]

Im not gonna lie, I didnt not support trump for 3 years, and I got a lot of flak for it by my friends. I want America to be great, sure. I can put up people I dont agree with in the whitehouse. I thought Resist was silly, he won, resisting doesn't help, building bridges where you can does.

But after the pandemic I can't support the guy. I would never listen to someone who is an accused liar that defends being caught lying about my safety, about the most important information that I could have: how to protect myself. And then when he's caught, wont own up to it and lies again to me and says, it was for my protection.

It's one thing to lie to me about other stuff, but that was like he was lying to me specifically. And you. Not the media, not the voters. You.

[Woke Locc]

Any idiot can recognize when the right goes to far, people on the right denounce them.

https://www.project1999.com/forums/showthread.php?t=367342

[Jibartik]

https://www.project1999.com/forums/showthread.php?t=367342

https://i.imgur.com/zwpOyyz.gif

as for people on the right denouncing them, didnt the first time shit started going bad the president called them good people?

[Danth]

With respect to your .gif, Jibartik, Maj. Kong is the guy you want flying your bombers if your country ever goes to war.

[Jibartik]

The moral of that movie was that we're too dumb and would drop him out of em if we did! Haha

As an aside, I sure love that gif. It really does sum up how I can really only act during all this, because my role is so insignificant. May as well enjoy the ride! (and if it all settles, at least I had fun with this live action appocoylpse movie.) I literally feel like Im watching a movie sometimes when I'm browsing the news on YouTube haha.

I live in one of the yellow sky areas, that day was so awesome I was like, "well lol this is it, cant convince me the end isnt nigh now." :p

[charmcitysking]

Wow - a lot of TDS patients on this thread desperately clinging to any possible thing they can to ignore Joe Biden's decades of 'pay-to-play' politics.

Anywho - Biden's now endorsing transgender activism for pre-adolescent children.

https://geopolitics.news/anglo-america/biden-endorses-transgender-activism-for-8-year-old-children/

Much cringe
Yikes
Imagine

No wonder his own son is so messed up.

[Evia]

Worst thread of the year

[Jibartik]

wait lol like George Costanza I thought of a better comeback on the way home:

With respect to your .gif, Jibartik, Maj. Kong is the guy you want flying your bombers if your country ever goes to war.

"too bad trump fired him!"

hehe :p

[Danth]

The moral of that movie was that we're too dumb and would drop him out of em if we did! Haha

Probably been awhile since you've seen that flick--but what happened in the scene was the plane suffered damage to its electrical systems in an earlier missile attack which disabled the bomb bay door motors. Nobody noticed that particular damage due to other more pressing problems until the crew tried (and failed) to open the doors as their attack run commenced. The Major frantically crawled into the bomb bay and on top of the bomb so as to reach and repair the damaged area. Once he succeeded and the bay doors opened he was left trapped with no way out, mere seconds from release, and dropped with the bomb he was sitting on. No stupidity present--the character was portrayed as having selflessly sacrificed himself for his mission. The entire aircrew played their roles totally straight in (deliberate) contrast with the rest of the film being a somewhat absurd comedy.

I contrast that with a TV flick called "By Dawn's Early Light" which also has a B-52 crew as characters. Opposite to the earlier film, in this one the U.S. actually is subjected to nuclear attack, but the B-52 crew in this film wusses out (in spite of their friends and families mostly being dead) and refuses to conduct their nuclear counterattack mission, instead choosing to go rogue. You don't want crews like that in a shooting war.

Danth

[Mota]

Wow - a lot of TDS patients on this thread desperately clinging to any possible thing they can to ignore Joe Biden's decades of 'pay-to-play' politics.

Other side corrupt bad guys, my side good guys! Come on dude, Trump's a con man and a retard who can't turn a profit at a casino. Biden is going senile and sucked big fat donkey dick when he was lucid and is still a better choice.

[Danth]

Folks treating political parties like sports teams aren't doing the nation any favors. You've got to be able to call out your own bad apples, too, not just those on the other side.

Danth

[Jibartik]

Probably been awhile since you've seen that flick--but what happened in the scene was the plane suffered damage to its electrical systems in an earlier missile attack which disabled the bomb bay door motors. Nobody noticed that particular damage due to other more pressing problems until the crew tried (and failed) to open the doors as their attack run commenced. The Major frantically crawled into the bomb bay and on top of the bomb so as to reach and repair the damaged area. Once he succeeded and the bay doors opened he was left trapped with no way out, mere seconds from release, and dropped with the bomb he was sitting on. No stupidity present--the character was portrayed as having selflessly sacrificed himself for his mission. The entire aircrew played their roles totally straight in (deliberate) contrast with the rest of the film being a somewhat absurd comedy.

I contrast that with a TV flick called "By Dawn's Early Light" which also has a B-52 crew as characters. Opposite to the earlier film, in this one the U.S. actually is subjected to nuclear attack, but the B-52 crew in this film wusses out (in spite of their friends and families mostly being dead) and refuses to conduct their nuclear counterattack mission, instead choosing to go rogue. You don't want crews like that in a shooting war.

Danth

The guy who was talking about fluoride that caused the whole disaster is what I was referring to :p but my second comeback was way better anyway hehe! :D

[Woke Locc]

Other side corrupt bad guys, my side good guys! Come on dude, Trump's a con man and a retard who can't turn a profit at a casino. Biden is going senile and sucked big fat donkey dick when he was lucid and is still a better choice.

Earmarks get shit done. We're crumbling in deadlock because no politician can really "bring home the bacon" for their districts anymore. Pay to play my ass, retvrn to tradition!

[Patriam1066]

Wow - a lot of TDS patients on this thread desperately clinging to any possible thing they can to ignore Joe Biden's decades of 'pay-to-play' politics.

Anywho - Biden's now endorsing transgender activism for pre-adolescent children.

https://geopolitics.news/anglo-america/biden-endorses-transgender-activism-for-8-year-old-children/

Much cringe
Yikes
Imagine

No wonder his own son is so messed up.

Trump is so fat he could barely fit on that stool dude. I prefer Biden’s I smoke crack physique

[Patriam1066]

Ben Sasse and Sherrod Brown should be Consuls for ten years

[Videri]

Can we at least delete this part?

[Fame]

National politics are soft.

Enjoy a story about dick pics, death threats, teen escorts and tollhouse cookies from Alaska lol

Alaska AF (https://defector.com/some-shit-is-going-down-in-alaska-man/?fbclid=IwAR1gMsagaozUN6K2L2JrJIjCISiCLZLGKRjPz7C1 cO6k_B5N7zZ5kibYdRE)

[Castle2.0]

Sorry, there is only one thread for any politics related. Anything you post semi-related to politics will be moved there.

At least that's what happened so far. I don't give this thread 24 hours before it goes down the P99 version of the memory hole ;)

[Woke Locc]

Alaska already had their election, OP

https://i.imgur.com/33fM2XS.png

[Fame]

Sorry, there is only one thread for any politics related. Anything you post semi-related to politics will be moved there.

At least that's what happened so far. I don't give this thread 24 hours before it goes down the P99 version of the memory hole ;)

Check the story out it’s in a league of its own.

Alaska already had their election, OP

https://i.imgur.com/33fM2XS.png

lol true

[Jibartik]

this thread is hilarious videri ride the bomb with us!

"Trump says he'll flee to Argentina if he loses" (https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/521513-trump-on-if-biden-wins-maybe-ill-have-to-leave-the-country)

lol

[douglas1999]

Other side corrupt bad guys, my side good guys! Come on dude, Trump's a con man and a retard who can't turn a profit at a casino. Biden is going senile and sucked big fat donkey dick when he was lucid and is still a better choice.

Nah he's really not a better choice. I'd love it if he was, but he will capitulate to basically any pressure from insane far left extremists. Trump, while a giant asshole, is not an establishment politician. This is why people like him. He falls ass backward into decent and sometimes good policy because he's too rich to be bought by anyone.

I know it's funny that he's a retarded doofus with funny hair and used to host a reality show, but most politicians hide their shortcomings at any cost. He doesn't; you know what you're getting. It's hard not to notice that he will actually answer any question, even if it makes him look terrible. People are so desperately wanting somebody to just do that, it's the exact same mechanism that won him 2016.

Meanwhile biden is like "well I'll give you my answer on court packing if and when I reach a decision and if you'll just sign on the dotted line here you can recieve all of my opinions for only 9 dollars a month jack!"

[bubur]

Can we at least delete this part?

you cant just delete what you dont like. wouldnt it be nice tho?

fysa the riots are racist. the crack is only the beginning, the pedo tapes come next. inb4 good thing we're not voting hunter in for pres, just his gang member father

not that it matters. he's a sacrifice. he will lose

and we'll remember, even after he's crucified like the pharmakos he is. we'll remember all of it. and you can't delete it

take notes. give love: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ORp3q1Oaezw&feature=emb_title

sit down, listen. do right, and stop flailing weirdos

[bubur]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EyNlhuCJPTo&feature=emb_title

if you don't find this relevant to the discussion, i don't blame you. wish u all well

[Jibartik]

you cant just delete what you dont like. wouldnt it be nice tho?

fysa the riots are racist. the crack is only the beginning, the pedo tapes come next. inb4 good thing we're not voting hunter in for pres, just his gang member father

not that it matters. he's a sacrifice. he will lose

and we'll remember, even after he's crucified like the pharmakos he is. we'll remember all of it. and you can't delete it

take notes. give love: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ORp3q1Oaezw&feature=emb_title

sit down, listen. do right, and stop flailing weirdos

Damn this episode of family matters is serious

[bubur]

goddamnit jib

lol

[Bardp1999]

my name is jeff thomas and i love to suck giant cocks, and eat man asshole. rainbows are life. i love cum shots. im so gay i would eat my own asshole. fuck me big daddy

[Castle2.0]

I don't know about that. We don't have the full story on Hunter yet. It's getting pretty crazy.

[bubur]

i lived in AK for 15 month so im invested whether you natives like it or not

but can you please summarize? i heard the reporter say some nasty things. did he really be diddlin kids tho?

[bubur]

https://i.imgur.com/TP4D40J.png

bush towers btw. haha funny mem. has enough time passed yet?

[Fame]

I checked out the escorts twitter and she says it’s all a lie by her mom for 15 minutes of fame lol

I think the reporter and her used to sext, he probably moved on and then she threatened to expose him and then left a voicemail threatening to kill him and his wife with some bits about Zion.

[Mblake81]

Trump is so fat he could barely fit on that stool dude. I prefer Biden’s I smoke crack physique

Queer eye for the straight guy, Adobe edition.

[BlackBellamy]

it was for my protection.

It's one thing to lie to me about other stuff, but that was like he was lying to me specifically. And you. Not the media, not the voters. You.

He didn't lie to you specifically, that's a bit of narcissism. He lied to the nation as a whole, but he was really talking to the panicky motherfuckers.

You see, there's no way to just target panicky motherfuckers. You know the panicky motherfucker, he's going to push people out of the way on the way to lifeboat, the guy who will trample people at the fire exit. (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4TuEWtXBT_0) He's the guy who is going to buy all the masks and all the gloves and the alcohol and the wipes. He's the guy who is going to stop going to work and tank the market, and if he panics enough he'll start stealing and burning things.

Scientists say the USA is composed 20% of panicky motherfuckers. That doesn't seem seem high but remember the Commutative Law of Panicky Motherfuckers - each panicky motherfucker can turn two non-panicky persons into panicky motherfuckers, just like the Faberge Organics Panicky Shampoo on TV.

Are you a panicky motherfucker? No. Neither am I. So we both figured out how severe the virus was on our own, using the same sources available to everyone, without needing a person with Business Experience And No Science Degree to explain it for us. That explanation was for stupid panicky motherfuckers who needed a bit of calming down so the shit wouldn't hit the fan.

Of course he lied. I expected leaders to always lie about the severity of the crisis. Always! Isn't it a common trope - the politician going 'there's nothing to worry about calm down' before the monster eats him? I think we as a society expect that.

Imagine Churchill going "We barely have any planes or operational airfields left and our radar towers are going down one by one. We are very low on pilots without any bullet holes in them. The submarines are sinking our merchant ships faster than we can make them. It seems the Nazis are gathering a big invasion force, and their tanks are not only better and there's more of them, they also have really good crews. And their infantry, they kicked our us ass just now and it will probably happen again! Anyway, we're doomed!"

[Mota]

Nah he's really not a better choice. I'd love it if he was, but he will capitulate to basically any pressure from insane far left extremists. Trump, while a giant asshole, is not an establishment politician. This is why people like him. He falls ass backward into decent and sometimes good policy because he's too rich to be bought by anyone.

I know it's funny that he's a retarded doofus with funny hair and used to host a reality show, but most politicians hide their shortcomings at any cost. He doesn't; you know what you're getting. It's hard not to notice that he will actually answer any question, even if it makes him look terrible. People are so desperately wanting somebody to just do that, it's the exact same mechanism that won him 2016.

Meanwhile biden is like "well I'll give you my answer on court packing if and when I reach a decision and if you'll just sign on the dotted line here you can recieve all of my opinions for only 9 dollars a month jack!"

Trump policy is 90% rubber stamping what Mitch McConnel wants, then random twitter rants and undoing anything Obama did. He's a retarded tool being used by the right the same way you decry Biden will supposedly be used by the "insane far left extremists."


Meanwhile Trump is like, "well I'll give you my tax returns when they're not under audit. I won't say that I will agree with election results, covid will be gone in a couple weeks, covid will be gone when summer hits, I made all that up and then lied to America about the severity back when it started" and many other non answers and lies. If an issue with Biden is he won't directly answer a court packing question you should at least be consistent and dislike when Trump does it.


"Insane far left extremists" fucking lmao. Turn off Fox News or Rush or whatever newfangled right wing propaganda rag give you these ideas.

[BlackBellamy]

Sounds like something an insane far left extremist would say.

[BlackBellamy]

Your news sources are so much more reliable than mine.

[BlackBellamy]

Breaking News:

Insane Far Left Extremists Burn Down Farmer's Equipment Because He Flew Trump Flags

https://krvn.com/agricultural/farmer-speaks-out-following-harvest-equipment-fire-in-clay-county/

Am I making assumptions that it was insane far left extremists? Maybe. Do insane far right extremists ever destroy or burn anything? Hmmm.

[Mota]

Timothy McVeigh was fake news.

Breaking news:
Right wing extremists don't destroy property, they murder the "others"

[BlackBellamy]

Oh sorry I meant within the last two decades just to specifically exclude that. My bad.

Because then I would have to bring up The Weathermen and you would claim stuff about the Klan and then I would go Haymaker Riots and it would never end.

[BlackBellamy]

That's why I went 'hmmm'. Because it takes me time to think back of stuff that happened all the way in the last millenium.

[BlackBellamy]

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2020/01/17/opinion/joe-biden-nytimes-interview.html

Joe Biden:

We stopped showing up at the Polish American club. We stopped showing up, and we all went to you, the really smart people. We had a new kind of coalition we were putting together. College-educated women and college men and boom, boom, boom and so on.

But guess what? All white guys are just basically, they don’t give a damn about women. They don’t care about equal pay.


I do support reparations for black Americans.

You know it's true that Polish people are stupid and white guys of course don't give a damn about women but did he have to come out and just say it?

Why can't we have someone like Trump that has a filter and carefully considers stuff before he just vomits it out?

[Mota]

So hard to remember the largest right wing terror attack in US history, as well as the largest terror attack from one of our own citizens. How much weed do you smoke, can we be weed friends?

Here, modern for you since you do seem to be stuck in the propaganda mill like I said:
https://www.forbes.com/sites/tommybeer/2020/06/16/accused-killer-of-california-cops-was-associated-with-right-wing-boogaloo-movement/#573698b959bd

Right wing extremists like to murder.

[BiG SiP]

Florida Alaska Man

[douglas1999]

Right wing extremists have murdered in the past, therefore the overwhelmingly larger and more salient threat of left wing extremists burning and beating and killing for literally the last five months isn't a big deal! Please do not look behind the curtain guys, it's the scary right wingers that are the threat, somehow!

[Woke Locc]

Pretty sure Wabbahism is right wing.

checkmate

[Jibartik]

I think its funny when people use political parties to delineate which half of society is falling apart haha

People join a cause and murder the other cause for literally the entirety of mankind.

"its the libs fault!"

lol

[Raev]

The FBI has infiltrated all White Nationalist/Supremacist type groups from top to bottom, so anything they do happens with the FBI's implicit approval. For example, in the recent 'kidnapping attempt' of Michigan Governer Whitmer, the most active conspirator was an FBI agent (https://thefederalist.com/2020/10/13/whitmer-kidnapping-plot-may-have-been-an-fbi-entrapment-of-a-bunch-of-crackpots/)! There are plenty of reasons to suspect the FBI as the true mastermind of the OKC bombing and the 1993 trade towers bombing, but not 9/11 - that was the CIA . . . .

[Mota]

Thanks for the example from this year but I'm gonna ignore that and pretend right wing violence is all in the past. Property destruction is literally the worst thing you can do so that's why I hate the left.

Maybe find better news sources, like Trump's own DHS who says right wing terrorists are the gravest domestic threat.

[Jibartik]

Why can't we have someone like Trump that has a filter and carefully considers stuff before he just vomits it out?

Because that would be bernie sanders. You have your answer as to why, just 4 years ago, and 1 year ago!

[Jibartik]

Right wing extremists...

...become police officers and murder people regularly with protections that after 60 years of protesting without any measurable change, resulted in a national riot. :(

It's all trumps fault. The dude took a pic infront of a church lol

"look at them raging and seething, instead of eating their cake, what savage animals"

gimi a break.

[Castle2.0]

"Remember when riots were a thing, then Democrats realized it hurt them in the polls... and POOF! like magic they disappeared all at once."

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"The Hunter Biden emails were fabricated by the same Russian operative who beat up Jussie Smollett, wrote homophobic slurs on Joy Reid’s blog, and hacked Steve Scully."


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"....an apparent reference to now-bankrupt CEFC China Energy Co.

The email includes a note that “Hunter has some office expectations he will elaborate.” A proposed equity split references “20” for “H” and “10 held by H for the big guy?”...."
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Oof. Not here to argue with bad-faith people. Just sharing some fun quotes and stories. Feel free to follow on me on Twitter - and by follow me on Twitter, I mean keep checking this thread :D

[Castle2.0]

:D

[Jibartik]

Can someone give me to TL;DR of this laptop trend?

edit: i cant remember wasnt there some hillary scandal that came out right before the election last time too that turned out to be fake or something but actually had a solid impact on her performance? WHat was that, I cant remember.

I cant believe people are so quick to believe this stuff, especially the "skeptics" like castle.

It reminds me of racheal maddow back after the election "we got him tune in tonight at 7: trump tax returns" and then it turned out trump released them like 36 hours later people find out lol

[hobart]

What is Hunter Biden running for again? I want to make sure to not vote for him.

[hobart]

edit: i cant remember wasnt there some hillary scandal that came out right before the election last time too that turned out to be fake or something but actually had a solid impact on her performance? WHat was that, I cant remember.

As non-issue as that was, at least it actually had something to do with the candidate. The only people who are too stupid to figure out that Hunter Biden is not on the ballot are already voting for Trump or not voting.

We already did this with Billy Carter. If this is the best October surprise there is going to be, RIP.

[Patriam1066]

All I learned from this is that jews will go anywhere to hold power and that women in Alaska look like shit

[Videri]

you cant just delete what you dont like. wouldnt it be nice tho?

I did NOT post in this thread. :mad: I proposed deleting the "Red = Trump, Blue = Biden, Green = whatever" thread AS A JOKE, then it got merged into this one. Pretend I never posted!!

[Jibartik]

We've boild it down to good v evil at this point lol kiss our asses goodbye!

[Patriam1066]

Breaking News:

Insane Far Left Extremists Burn Down Farmer's Equipment Because He Flew Trump Flags

https://krvn.com/agricultural/farmer-speaks-out-following-harvest-equipment-fire-in-clay-county/

Am I making assumptions that it was insane far left extremists? Maybe. Do insane far right extremists ever destroy or burn anything? Hmmm.

This is bad dude, what’s your point? Whoever did that should be strung up, their behavior is anti-democratic (lowercase d) and un-American

[Patriam1066]

Pretty sure Wabbahism is right wing.

checkmate

Haha

Islam has no wing. Any form, moderate or extreme, is mental illness. Shiism is better, since it has spawned the assassins and the modern iranians, the most brutal killers of Arabs this planet has ever seen

Nonetheless, it’s time to Make Iran Zoroastrian Again

[douglas1999]

What is Hunter Biden running for again? I want to make sure to not vote for him.

Well the gripe is that his dad is a hugely corrupt career politician establishment asshole, and the hunter thing confirms that, if true. Trump is a different type of spoiled asshole, but nobody can seem to say anything bad about his domestic or foreign policies. It's always just "He's rude and crude buster, and I don't like him!" and\or "can you denounce white supremacy which is a total ghost, for the 50 billionth time?". Does not an argument make.

[douglas1999]

All I learned from this is that jews will go anywhere to hold power and that women in Alaska look like shit

Jews are a small and therefore vulnerable population. I like you patriam, but the jews stuff always reads as insane. Also women in alaska *do* look like shit, but I'll be damned if I never fapped to sarah palin; aka milfalicious sexbot 5000.

[douglas1999]

"Wabbahism"

[Woke Locc]

Trump is a different type of spoiled asshole, but nobody can seem to say anything bad about his foreign policies.

I've seen people call him an "isocuck" but I don't really know what that means.

Can you explain?

[douglas1999]

Hmm, that's tricky. It sounds like I suck cock, but I'm not sure

It would definitely be a sweet burn in 3rd grade that's for sure

[hobart]

Well the gripe is that his dad is a hugely corrupt career politician establishment asshole, and the hunter thing confirms that, if true. Trump is a different type of spoiled asshole, but nobody can seem to say anything bad about his domestic or foreign policies. It's always just "He's rude and crude buster, and I don't like him!" and\or "can you denounce white supremacy which is a total ghost, for the 50 billionth time?". Does not an argument make.

Hunter Biden being a crackhead confirms that his dad is corrupt?

And I don't know which parallel universe you live in, but in this one Trump's domestic and foreign policies (or lack there of) is the problem that everyone finds fault with every day.

[Castle2.0]

Hunter Biden being a crackhead confirms that his dad is corrupt? Someone hasn't read the texts or emails I guess. When you got 3 major networks running cover for Corrupt Joe, I'm not surprised many are still clueless.

As more surfaces, the major networks will have to cover it.

[Patriam1066]

Hunter Biden being a crackhead confirms that his dad is corrupt?

And I don't know which parallel universe you live in, but in this one Trump's domestic and foreign policies (or lack there of) is the problem that everyone finds fault with every day.

I lol’ed at that too

Trump could’ve not possibly had a worse 2020 (he may lose Texas), but everyone loves his policies!!! Go figure what people believe when they only watch Cucker Carlson

[Topgunben]

Hunters a crackhead but I don’t think it helped Trump to focus on that.

[Topgunben]

Hunters a crackhead but I don’t think it helped Trump to focus on that.

[BlackBellamy]

Ladies and Gentlemen, presenting Foreign Policy Joe Biden:

https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/read-full-transcript-joe-bidens-abc-news-town/story?id=73643517

And we find ourselves in a situation where he spoke to Putin six times, hasn't said a word to him. And NATO is in the risk of beginning to crack because they don't doubt -- they doubt our -- whether we're there. You see what's happened in everything from Belarus to Poland to Hungary, and the rise of totalitarian regimes in the world, and as well, this president embraces all the thugs in the world.

NATO stronger than ever and surrounding Russia tighter every day: https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/russia-nato-border-forces-map-where-are-they-positioned-a7562391.html ("Kremlin officials claim the build-up is the largest since the Second World War!")

Manages to create diplomatic row by insulting Poland and Hungary.

I mean, he's best friends with the leader of North Korea, sending love letters. He doesn't take on Putin in any way, and he -- he's just -- he's learned the art of the steal from the art of the deal by Xi and China.

Not a single ballistic missile launch or nuclear test in NK, also personal apology letter from Kim when his soldiers shot a defector, which has never happened.

Biden, who received millions of Chinese dollars from his crack addled bag-man is lecturing a man who has been tougher on China than all past presidents put together going back to Nixon.

So, I -- I would respectfully suggest -- no, there is no plan. No coherent plan for foreign policy.

I think Biden is talking about himself.

Edit:

The Hungarians push back:

The [Hungarian] foreign minister went on the note that Biden seemed “particularly busy” when it came to foreign policy under the Obama administration, suggesting that for a time, “and I exaggerate a bit, Biden spent more of his time outside D.C. in Ukraine than in rural America.”

Nice!

[Patriam1066]

Trump just let the Armenian genocide happen during a pandemic

Not sure why you’d bring up foreign policy. Muslims are killing Christians, what is the point of a right wing populist if not to stop that? Turks should’ve been removed from Istanbul and Cyprus over this, and Azerbaijan liquidated

[Patriam1066]

Also, congratulations on not realizing how unpopular trump is. Bye bye senate

[Trexller]

Trump just let the Armenian genocide happen during a pandemic

Whats that got to do with American Nationalist policies?

They wanna kill each other? Screw em, we'll even give em the guns.

[Patriam1066]

You are not an American nationalist if you let Muslims kill Christians. RIP to the teacher in France. This is a clash of civilizations, Islam delenda est

[Patriam1066]

Trump is Jewish. Hope this helps

[Woke Locc]

This is a clash of civilizations, Islam delenda est

CoC is explicitly fought culturally, not kinetically.

Hth!

[Morton Jr]

i watched about 10 mins of the biden interview, he is trying his hardest to seem like a genuine candidate that wants to bring everyone together.

Democrats all run the same scam, profit off poor people, i guess if people havent figured it out by now they never will.

[Patriam1066]

CoC is explicitly fought culturally, not kinetically.

Hth!

Tell that to John Tzimiskes

[Trexller]

You are not an American nationalist if you let Muslims kill Christians. RIP to the teacher in France. This is a clash of civilizations, Islam delenda est

not a christian. I'm only religious about American Nationalism.

[Morton Jr]

The world is too big and its too hard for america to get involved with everything. How many terrorists use the ideology that america gets involved and pushes their politics on the world as an excuse to kill us?

Maybe we should not get involved?

[hobart]

Take everything negative said about Biden in this thread and assume it's true. Even with that in mind, Biden is still the clear choice.

If you're going to get your unqualified crackhead kid appointed to a mafia-style no work position, at least have the decency to do it overseas. That's patriotism comparatively.

[Woke Locc]

not a christian.

cringe

[douglas1999]

Take everything negative said about Biden in this thread and assume it's true. Even with that in mind, Biden is still the clear choice.

If you're going to get your unqualified crackhead kid appointed to a mafia-style no work position, at least have the decency to do it overseas. That's patriotism comparatively.

Please bulletpoint what Biden's platform actually is and\or what Trump's largest policy errors have been, and whether they have remotely impacted your life in any way. And if you want to mention covid response, detail how Biden would have responded differently or better. I genuinely want to know, it's not rhetorical.

[Patriam1066]

not a christian. I'm only religious about American Nationalism.

You sound obese

[Patriam1066]

Please bulletpoint what Biden's platform actually is and\or what Trump's largest policy errors have been, and whether they have remotely impacted your life in any way. And if you want to mention covid response, detail how Biden would have responded differently or better. I genuinely want to know, it's not rhetorical.

Biden would’ve responded in some fashion, instead of saying “it’s a hoax,” which it clearly isn’t. Your misplaced loyalty is going to lose the Republican Party the senate, you played yourself bud. We’re about to see the most liberal program enacted since FDR, and it’s because none of you could say the obese: Trump is obese!

[Raev]

Take everything negative said about Biden in this thread and assume it's true. Even with that in mind, Biden is still the clear choice.

If you're going to get your unqualified crackhead kid appointed to a mafia-style no work position, at least have the decency to do it overseas. That's patriotism comparatively.

I don't understand why everyone is focused on 'my candidate is 10% less worse than your candidate' instead of 'why does our political system never generate any good candidates, as if by magic?'

[Raev]

Biden would’ve responded in some fashion, instead of saying “it’s a hoax,” which it clearly isn’t.

It clearly is. The CDC currently claims a 99.98% survival rate for people under the age of 50, and that is based on faulty statistics that included motorcycle deaths as COVID fatalities. On average, Americans lost ONE DAY of life to COVID. Lockdowns and masks are literal insanity.

Why don't you hammer Trump on something he actually did wrong? Trump campaigned hard for a bailout that sent $9 trillion to the wealthy and $400 billion to the people (5% for those of you that are math illiterate). He's currently doing it again. Remember: stimulus is code for 'we're going to give money to rich people, and then allow you to work for it'. Note how Breitbart is bitching about Haspel and Wray and so on? Trump appointed them! Trump also used the pandemic hysteria to sneak through a 5G bill.

Trump is not even trying to drain the swamp. Q just a gigantic punisher fantasy to keep what remains of American patriotism distracted while the last round of looting finishes while COVID distracts the socialists.

[Zipity]

138 pages of unread!

Voting trump and it’s not even close.

[douglas1999]

Giving money to the wealthy is not just automatically bad. Bailing out corporations that employ hundreds of thousands of people is more important than giving money to individuals. It's an extremely basic economic concept that *does* value the lower class despite how it reads. It's easy to be jealous of rich people, but wealth is created; it doesn't just automatically appear. Taking from the rich and giving to the poor sounds like a great idea when you're six years old. You could tax the wealthy at 99% and they'd still have more money than most people, but *who cares*? How good is your life? If your sense of worth derives from knowing that nobody has "too much money", I feel bad for you. Utopia is not attainable, don't make the perfect the enemy of the good.

[Woke Locc]

Giving money to the wealthy is not just automatically bad. Bailing out corporations that employ hundreds of thousands of people is more important than giving money to individuals. It's an extremely basic economic concept that *does* value the lower class despite how it reads. It's easy to be jealous of rich people, but wealth is created; it doesn't just automatically appear. Taking from the rich and giving to the poor sounds like a great idea when you're six years old. You could tax the wealthy at 99% and they'd still have more money than most people, but *who cares*? How good is your life? If your sense of worth derives from knowing that nobody has "too much money", I feel bad for you. Utopia is not attainable, don't make the perfect the enemy of the good.

Pretty woke but we still gotta get you off the Tim tip 😉

[Raev]

wealth is created; it doesn't just automatically appear
How much do you know about the Federal Reserve system?

[BarnabusCollins]

The Federal Reserve System is 1. not Federal and 2. not a reserve for a market crash safety net and is 3. privatly owned and 4. for profit organization corrupt to the core of the USA

[Castle2.0]

More emails coming. Hunter Biden's shady business partner turned on him. He turned over his own gmail account to a conservative writer / journalist Peter Schweize.

Supposedly, they are going to release the actual emails themselves - not just printouts or PDF copies.

This will be interesting, whatever happens... Stay tuned ;)

https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2020/10/16/exclusive-this-is-china-inc-emails-reveal-hunter-bidens-associates-helped-communist-aligned-chinese-elites-secure-white-house-meetings/

[Elrood]

It clearly is. The CDC currently claims a 99.98% survival rate for people under the age of 50, and that is based on faulty statistics that included motorcycle deaths as COVID fatalities. On average, Americans lost ONE DAY of life to COVID. Lockdowns and masks are literal insanity.

220K dead Americans. Many more to come. How fucking braindead retarded do you have to be to look at this and think "not a big deal, it's a hoax"?

Don't give us this "motorcycle death" bullshit either. Covid is killing Americans and your fucking president doesn't give one single shit nor has he done one thing to stop it. So fuck him and fuck you, too.

Edit: You will forever be on the wrong side of history. Mark my words. Enjoy it over there, ya fucking loser.

[Castle2.0]

It's also interesting to note...

"Facebook’s global policy manager for content regulation, Anna Makanju, advised Joe Biden on Ukraine policy during his time as Vice President. She also defended Biden from charges of wrongdoing with regards to Ukraine in a comment to the Washington Post last year."

[Gwaihir]

220K dead Americans. Many more to come.
Edit: You will forever be on the wrong side of history.

My money's on six million.

6million seems like a good number to settle on.

[Elrood]

My money's on six million.

6million seems like a good number to settle on.

Where, specifically, do you get that number from?

[BlackBellamy]

president doesn't give one single shit nor has he done one thing to stop it. So fuck him and fuck you, too.

Edit: You will forever be on the wrong side of history. Mark my words. Enjoy it over there, ya fucking loser.

You're angry. You should join us and experience love.

Do you see those hands? They're praying for him.

That's because he got Covid for their sins and after three days emerged from Vault 13 alive and well. They know he has God's Grace and the Executive Antibody and even in the dark the Lord shines his light on Trump's face in his loving approval.

He loves us. And we love him. We shout it out to him (https://twitter.com/SteveGuest/status/1317906541505335298) so he knows, but he knows anyway even without the shouting.

https://imgur.com/hgBlKEB.jpg

No one prays for Joe Biden, but that's only because the Chinese are atheists.

[BlackBellamy]

Everyone pray for Hunter. Right now. Take some time and come back in a little while.

https://imgur.com/8c9fqX2.jpg

[Jibartik]

Join us while we celebrate love among these 200 thousand corpses.

lol pass.

[BlackBellamy]

Go be sad then.

[BlackBellamy]

Joe Biden would have done so much better at handling Covid.

Maybe he would have handled it just as well as the crack crisis. Oh wait.

https://i.imgur.com/DgDmx3Q.mp4 (watch Biden with sound)

Yeah with that guy in charge everything would have been OK.

Look at video. Listen to him get inappropriately loud and angry because he's losing his fucking mind. Watch him stand there disinterestedly with his hands in his pockets waiting for the next words to scroll up on the giant teleprompter. Listen to him mangle the 2000pt text. The bridge! They were going to blow up the bridge! They were terrorists! Listen to the horns. The horns in the deep!

What the fuck is going on? Is this real?


Is this real?

[FatherSioux]

220K dead Americans. Many more to come. How fucking braindead retarded do you have to be to look at this and think "not a big deal, it's a hoax"?

Don't give us this "motorcycle death" bullshit either. Covid is killing Americans and your fucking president doesn't give one single shit nor has he done one thing to stop it. So fuck him and fuck you, too.

Edit: You will forever be on the wrong side of history. Mark my words. Enjoy it over there, ya fucking loser.

Go look at the co-morbidity counts. Close to half of Covid deaths the person had a serious other issue, cancer, flu or pneumonia.

[Jibartik]

Go be sad then.

I will tho that's the point. It's a sad time. This is a tragedy lol.

[douglas1999]

220K dead Americans. Many more to come. How fucking braindead retarded do you have to be to look at this and think "not a big deal, it's a hoax"?

Don't give us this "motorcycle death" bullshit either. Covid is killing Americans and your fucking president doesn't give one single shit nor has he done one thing to stop it. So fuck him and fuck you, too.

Edit: You will forever be on the wrong side of history. Mark my words. Enjoy it over there, ya fucking loser.

Calm down man. He did do many things to mitigate it. In fact, the first measure he took; shutting down travel from China, was immediately pounced upon as "racist". Pelosi was saying "go out and party it up, we are strong!" simultaneously. You can call people names all you want, and use the term "right side of history" which is maybe the most narcissistic thing one can possibly say (you're not claire voyant, you just don't like donald trump. Calm down, breathe.) it doesn't change the fact that 200k deaths, which are at best loosely attributable to covid itself given the overwhelmingly high survival rate, is a bad metric and almost useless due to politicization. The original projection was about 2 *million*. You don't like donald trump, calm down, it's okay, if he gets re elected who cares, if he doesn't who cares. Stop calling people dumb 3rd grade names, learn how to work with others even if they disagree with you. We live in the most prosperous time in the history of our species, you really don't need to be this mad.

[Castle2.0]

One of many more emails to come from Hunter Biden's ex business partner...

https://www.scribd.com/document/480635518/PDF-2013-10-05-Operation-Ketchup-Heinz-vs-Hunts

[hobart]

One of many more emails to come from Hunter Biden's ex business partner...

https://www.scribd.com/document/480635518/PDF-2013-10-05-Operation-Ketchup-Heinz-vs-Hunts

Not every president puts his kids in charge... I still don't see the point.

I wish Donald Trump had gotten his daughter and her gimp jobs ripping off other countries.

[Jibartik]

Trump supporters "look at this screenshot"

Also Trump supporters "haha all those pictures of trump at epstein's parties is just random why don't liberals care about child trafficking"

[douglas1999]

Trump being pictured at epstein parties is not automatically damning, I'm sure lots of people were pictured who had no idea what epstein was up to. Trump didn''t just magically know because you don't like him. The evidence against hunter and his father, on the other hand, is pretty conclusively damning.

Evidence is important, if some evidence arises that trump was participating in epstein's gross pedo empire, obviously any sane person would condemn that.

I mean clinton flew on his plane a million times, and I'm not saying that makes clinton guilty either, but his history of sexual impropriety does kind of lend credence to that suspicion. Simple question: What domestic or foreign policy has trump enacted that was bad, and why? It's the most basic possible question when it comes to assessing the president of our country, it should be easy to answer.

[Woke Locc]

My money's on six million.

6million seems like a good number to settle on.

You're not really like that, are ya? 😬

[Patriam1066]

Go look at the co-morbidity counts. Close to half of Covid deaths the person had a serious other issue, cancer, flu or pneumonia.

Covid causes pneumonia, half did not have cancer. And if they wouldn’t have died without covid, such as people who were obese and diabetic but otherwise not hospitalized on a ventilator before covid, your point is moot

Killing Americans with irresponsibility is service to the Chinese communist party. Commies answer to God. You guys better purchase sunblock

[BarnabusCollins]

I don't really care which walking corpse 'wins'

[Castle2.0]

Not every president puts his kids in charge... I still don't see the point. Read the other texts emails. You can find them via google if you're curious.

Jared is getting peace deals. Hunter just sold the VP office + country. We have their track records.

[Castle2.0]

Oh, and the media spent 3 years leading the collusion conspiracy, pumping the debunked steele dossier.

They owe it to the American public to show some journalistic integrity and journalistic curiosity to investigate Hunter's emails. If authentic, this is very newsworthy and something the American public should know, especially before Nov 3.

If it's not authentic, then by looking into it they can debunk it.

[BlackBellamy]

I have updated my prediction with this new Sad Joe (https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/ng-interactive/2020/sep/28/us-election-simulator-swing-states-biden-trump) banner.

https://imgur.com/OiJpYbY.jpg

This is because I think Biden is going to keep Minnesota.

Ok, ok I don't really think Biden will keep Minnesota. I'm just giving him one for not dying from the rigors of haltingly shouting so far, mostly. I mean alternating between staring into the void with hands in their pockets and suddenly yelling out stuff about bridges sure can take a lot out of a man.

[BlackBellamy]

Here is Google suggesting that I might be interested in the advertisement on top based on the content of the article below and also my previous viewing habits:

https://imgur.com/5JpC8hg.jpg

So I just want to say, regardless of what Rudy and Google say, I don't think any of you pose a threat. You can be Biden's allies all you want without having to worry about being shot by un underpowered .22 from some boat or ATV.

[BlackBellamy]

In April 1939 Roosevelt sent a letter to Hitler (http://www.ibiblio.org/pha/7-2-188/188-12.html) asking Hitler to promise not to attack 31 countries, which Roosevelt listed.

Hitler told him to fuck off and then the entire Reich laughed. (https://youtu.be/FtDxjVCu56E?t=79)

You know what happened later - math difficulties that bedevil us to this day.

Let's not go down that road again. Please.

In light of Rudy's warning, I ask all Biden Allies and Supporters to not attack or kill anyone. Please. Do not kill us, or really anyone.

Can you make that pledge or will you laugh at us like Hitler?

LIKE HITLER!!!

[Castle2.0]

A: Trump and his family are corrupt! His kids have copyrights in China, his are kids _____.
B: Did you read the Hunter emails? Apparently he was getting cash, ownership, and investment from foreign entities by selling "meetings" with his VP dad, Joe Biden. He held ownership of companies for Joe and gave a significant part of this income to Joe.
A: HUNTER BIDEN IS NOT ON THE BALLOT!!! REEEEEEEE

^^ If you can't spot the problem with A's hypocrisy, try again.

[Raev]

A: HUNTER BIDEN IS NOT ON THE BALLOT!!! REEEEEEEE

I have never understood this argument as Joe literally bragged on video about getting a Ukrainian prosecutor fired. This isn't some unrelated thing.

More amusingly, ZeroHedge is now claiming that Hunter stiffed the computer repairman. The whole thing boggles the mind. And at least so far, it seems the laptop is real. It's worth noting that neither Hunter nor Joe have denied it, and they have his signature trying to get it back.

But in the end this is all theater. Trump will keep giving $trillions to the 1% and make you take the COVID vaccine just like Biden, err Harris, would.

[Jibartik]

Evidence is important "shares screenshot"

We wouldnt even take a screenshot of an email as evidence on p99 lol

[BlackBellamy]

Evidence is important "shares screenshot"

We wouldnt even take a screenshot of an email as evidence on p99 lol

Of course because people will do anything for warder loot if you believe the sorry you don't have warder loot propaganda around here.

The thing about those 'screenshots' is that they're screenshots of emails between real people and the hard drives contain metadata which points to real people. So you go to the real people and you say "hey man is this email real" and they go "yes unfortunately so". You don't get real names and metadata here on P99, just red-faced liars shouting about some book. But in real life these kind of claims are easy to verify, provided the people who sent or received them are willing to talk and also not weirdly dead for some reason.

This is why when Biden was asked about it first they said "these things, they weren't in the schedule book" instead of "no this never happened" because they know this stuff can be proven true so they can't lie and the only truth they can tell is that oops there's a two-hour hole in the official meeting schedule where that Ukrainian crook was conspiring with Biden to steal our tax money.

This is also why Biden didn't answer any further questions and went after the CBS reporter (https://twitter.com/BoKnowsNews/status/1317275294194085888) for daring to ask. And right afterwards Biden's people called a "lid" on Joe as he has to go prepare for the Big Debate and so won't be talking to anyone or be seen until then.

Joe Biden needs to concentrate for four days so he can better inform the American people about his specific policy plans. That's what he's doing.

Biden's strategy here is not to deny anything because he can't. He's yelling "smear" and his proxies are yelling "RUSSIA!" and suppressing the story on the internet and just hoping Biden is able to run out the clock.

The debate should be interesting. I can see Trump raising an issue.

[Jibartik]

The debate is going to be awesome I cant wait hahaha

Not to justify Biden because I didnt justify it when Trump did it, but that's what trump did to the press and every accusation for the last 4 years and like as recently as the town hall lol.

[FatherSioux]

Covid causes pneumonia, half did not have cancer. And if they wouldn’t have died without covid, such as people who were obese and diabetic but otherwise not hospitalized on a ventilator before covid, your point is moot

Killing Americans with irresponsibility is service to the Chinese communist party. Commies answer to God. You guys better purchase sunblock

I learned something today because of you. Thank you. I didn't know C19 caused pneumonia.

You bring up a good point though, I think this debate hinges on responsibility and what people expect from their Government.

My expectations for my government are that they protect our country from foreign powers through the military. They protect my rights, primarily through negative rights vs positive rights.

Is it the governments role to force me to wear a mask as a 35 year old healthy human? Or is the responsibility of the 65 year old female who weighs 450lbs to limit her interactions with the public and wear her mask and be hyper vigilant? I lean heavily on it's the role of the individual. You seem to want the Government to enforce and dictate how we should all be acting despite obviously disparate risk factors across the population.


BTW: I wear a mask daily as my job as a IT Field tech requires me to travel and visit retail environments. So my exposure has been as high as any job out there, so my risk level of getting it are higher, so I wear my mask. It's simple

[Jibartik]

It's simple, should the government enforce me to not shoot people I disagree with? Or is it the responsibility of the idiot that I disagree with to stay the hell away from me?

Same logic applied to abortion/murder law ITT. Mask/Rights. Its the exact same logic every argument made against socialism.

These days, if you want the innocent, according to someone who'd vote for a different president: what you're really asking for is the heinous.

[BarnabusCollins]

"Judge strikes down 'arbitrary and capricious' USDA rule ending food stamps for 700,000 unemployed"

"Meet the Navy's new 13 Billion Dollar Aircraft Carrier"

"Terrified at her torment, they will stand far off and cry: ''Woe! Woe to you, great city, you mighty city of Babylon! In one hour your doom has come!'"

[Jibartik]

"Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in your name and in your name drive out demons and in your name perform many miracles?" Then I will tell them plainly, ‘I never knew you. Away from me, you evildoers!’

Edit: it's apparent the bible is not talking about libtards here.

[BlackBellamy]

made against socialism.

When someone says I don't want to engage in this prophylactic behavior designed to help society because it infringes on my rights and also my opinion of whether it's effective is more worthy than others they are being a libertarian - socialism or capitalism, left or right-wing has nothing to do with it.

The mask struggle lies on the authoritarian- libertarian axis (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nolan_Chart).

If someone is bringing the other axis into it they're either ignorant or manipulating you.

I think it's fair to say neither the left nor the right has a monopoly on authoritarianism. I think the only difference would be who pays for the mask and the bullet if you don't wear one.

[Jibartik]

The question is whether you believe being neighborly is authoritarian, just because one political party says it is a metaphor for it.

[BarnabusCollins]

That great city is Washington, D.C.

Youuuu gots to goooooo, to that lonesome valley mmmmmmmmmm

[BlackBellamy]

"Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in your name and in your name drive out demons and in your name perform many miracles?"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6tAmpQqW_s8

"At four-thirty, the Lord said to me - I am going to give your President a Second Wind!"

<Cheers/Yelling.>

"This has Three Meanings. Three Meanings!"

"A Win! That you will be President again!"

<Cheers/Yelling.>

"Long speech about the Lord giving our President a Second Wind!"

etc

[Jibartik]

I dont follow.

[hobart]

I have updated my prediction with this new Sad Joe (https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/ng-interactive/2020/sep/28/us-election-simulator-swing-states-biden-trump) banner.

https://imgur.com/OiJpYbY.jpg

This is because I think Biden is going to keep Minnesota.

Ok, ok I don't really think Biden will keep Minnesota. I'm just giving him one for not dying from the rigors of haltingly shouting so far, mostly. I mean alternating between staring into the void with hands in their pockets and suddenly yelling out stuff about bridges sure can take a lot out of a man.

National polling would need to move more than Clinton-Bush or be more off than Truman-Dewey. It's possible, I guess.

[kjs86z]

2020's Music Video (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eOkkWIOkWl8&feature=emb_title)

[Patriam1066]

I learned something today because of you. Thank you. I didn't know C19 caused pneumonia.

You bring up a good point though, I think this debate hinges on responsibility and what people expect from their Government.

My expectations for my government are that they protect our country from foreign powers through the military. They protect my rights, primarily through negative rights vs positive rights.

Is it the governments role to force me to wear a mask as a 35 year old healthy human? Or is the responsibility of the 65 year old female who weighs 450lbs to limit her interactions with the public and wear her mask and be hyper vigilant? I lean heavily on it's the role of the individual. You seem to want the Government to enforce and dictate how we should all be acting despite obviously disparate risk factors across the population.


BTW: I wear a mask daily as my job as a IT Field tech requires me to travel and visit retail environments. So my exposure has been as high as any job out there, so my risk level of getting it are higher, so I wear my mask. It's simple

The government shouldn’t have to force you or anyone else to do anything. Your Christian soul should’ve compelled you to do the right thing without being asked. Sadly, we don’t live in the country of my youth. Or maybe we do. This place is slowly lurching towards becoming a shit hole like Iran

SAD!

[BlackBellamy]

The question is whether you believe being neighborly is authoritarian, just because one political party says it is a metaphor for it.

Being neighborly implies an element of choice though, and also I think some self-sacrifice. Like you choose to take the time to rake your elderly neighbor's leaves when you could be leveling your Troll. I think that's an important distinction - if I am being compelled to perform an action through the threat of fines or imprisonment, my resulting actions can't really be characterized as neighborly.

I wear my mask outside not because I think it's effective or because I'm legally mandated, it's because I know my elderly neighbors are terrified and I don't want to scare them - I'm being neighborly because I make that conscious decision every time I go out. It's not their fault they're scared and it's only a little inconvenience.

If the government threatened me with jail for not wearing one, I would grow to resent my neighbors. Eventually I would cough on their doorknobs some dark morning. No one wants that, with the Ring cameras everywhere.

[Patriam1066]

In April 1939 Roosevelt sent a letter to Hitler (http://www.ibiblio.org/pha/7-2-188/188-12.html) asking Hitler to promise not to attack 31 countries, which Roosevelt listed.

Hitler told him to fuck off and then the entire Reich laughed. (https://youtu.be/FtDxjVCu56E?t=79)

You know what happened later - math difficulties that bedevil us to this day.

Let's not go down that road again. Please.

In light of Rudy's warning, I ask all Biden Allies and Supporters to not attack or kill anyone. Please. Do not kill us, or really anyone.

Can you make that pledge or will you laugh at us like Hitler?

LIKE HITLER!!!

Strange post weirdo. Pull a gun on any black teenagers lately?

Fun fact: I could crush all of Africa with just my Shepherd’s hands. No gun needed

[FatherSioux]

The government shouldn’t have to force you or anyone else to do anything. Your Christian soul should’ve compelled you to do the right thing without being asked. Sadly, we don’t live in the country of my youth. Or maybe we do. This place is slowly lurching towards becoming a shit hole like Iran

SAD!

You chose to ignore my statement about how I do wear my mask.

Should the police arrest jews who are celebrating outside in larger groups while ignoring protesters? Explain how that's ok.

Bellamy again on top of it with his comments regarding being forced to be neighborly isn't being neighborly, it's tyranny.

[Woke Locc]

Tyranny is a strong word stop being dramatic

[kjs86z]

https://i.imgur.com/Sb6RpYw.jpg

[Patriam1066]

You chose to ignore my statement about how I do wear my mask.

Should the police arrest jews who are celebrating outside in larger groups while ignoring protesters? Explain how that's ok.

Bellamy again on top of it with his comments regarding being forced to be neighborly isn't being neighborly, it's tyranny.

Bellamy admitted to pulling a gun on a teenager who knocked on his door

Very weird perception of tyranny and force from your perspective. I didn’t answer because I would not have allowed either the protests against masks or the later BLM protests. But I didn’t write the constitution, which enshrines the right to assemble and protest in the first amendment. It does not protect a person’s individual right to deny science and become a disease vector

It’s great that you wear a mask. It’s bad that somehow America is unique in the developed world in that we have to even ask our citizens to do so. This isn’t an issue in Japan, Taiwan, France or Spain. Some countries haven’t done well, but at least they tried. We have 500,000 people meeting up for a biker rally in sturgis. It doesn’t make sense and it’s utterly indefensible.

[kjs86z]

We have 500,000 people meeting up for a biker rally in sturgis. It doesn’t make sense and it’s utterly indefensible.

And nothing happened other than what normally happens at Sturgis.

Americans enjoying their shared passion for motorcycles...with a little "fuck you" to those saying they shouldn't.

[FatherSioux]

Bellamy admitted to pulling a gun on a teenager who knocked on his door

Very weird perception of tyranny and force from your perspective. I didn’t answer because I would not have allowed either the protests against masks or the later BLM protests. But I didn’t write the constitution, which enshrines the right to assemble and protest in the first amendment. It does not protect a person’s individual right to deny science and become a disease vector

It’s great that you wear a mask. It’s bad that somehow America is unique in the developed world in that we have to even ask our citizens to do so. This isn’t an issue in Japan, Taiwan, France or Spain. Some countries haven’t done well, but at least they tried. We have 500,000 people meeting up for a biker rally in sturgis. It doesn’t make sense and it’s utterly indefensible.

Yeah really shocking that the group of people who are ancestors to folks who risked everything to start the greatest nation the world has seen, don't follow the same rules as the rest of the world. Truly shocking. America is great because of this exact value. If you don't understand this you aren't grasping the beauty of America.

Also what else would you call the government forcing it's citizens to perform a song and dance or face arrest? Seems quite tyrannical to me.

[BarnabusCollins]

It was the greatest fall the world had ever seen.

[Jibartik]

Being neighborly implies an element of choice though, and also I think some self-sacrifice. Like you choose to take the time to rake your elderly neighbor's leaves when you could be leveling your Troll. I think that's an important distinction - if I am being compelled to perform an action through the threat of fines or imprisonment, my resulting actions can't really be characterized as neighborly.

I wear my mask outside not because I think it's effective or because I'm legally mandated, it's because I know my elderly neighbors are terrified and I don't want to scare them - I'm being neighborly because I make that conscious decision every time I go out. It's not their fault they're scared and it's only a little inconvenience.

If the government threatened me with jail for not wearing one, I would grow to resent my neighbors. Eventually I would cough on their doorknobs some dark morning. No one wants that, with the Ring cameras everywhere.

Yeah, I mean we agree on every point then, except, that what we did was jump to threatening you with jail for not wearing a mask.

I promise the only people that are pushing that argument are the ones that are trying to convince you that it's true.

Everyone fined/arrested (except for use of excessive force that is exactly the argument against police use of excessive force that Kyle Rittenhouse is so against) was fined/arrested because they were resisting the law, not because they weren't wearing a mask.

So I think it's fair to say that you cant support cops and be anti masks, anymore than you'd argue you can support cops and BLM.

And for that matter, if you would cough on a doorknob because someone asks you to wear a mask, how can you not understand why people are rioting over BLM anyway? :confused:

[Jibartik]

You chose to ignore my statement about how I do wear my mask.

Should the police arrest jews who are celebrating outside in larger groups while ignoring protesters? Explain how that's ok.

Of course not. But those two are not the same thing.

Me saying masks should be mandatory during the pandemic =/= we should be so dumb that we arrest religious organizations gathering outdoors. It's apparent protests did not create spikes and it looks like outdoors might be pretty ok if we wear masks, and who knows maybe if only 80, or 20% do. We can find out if we take slow steps back to opening the economy.

What the right (and left!) should be doing is working on clarifying what activities are safe to do outside, what are not, and how to implement them.

What part of that is complicated?

The thing is we cant even get to that step because people are steering the conversation into one about how every medical advisor in the trump campaign is saying one thing and trump and his supporters are saying another.

It's like you're yelling fire in a movie theater in my opinion. What if it got so bad that there were enough people like me that agree'd that it was neccisisary to save lives if we weld you into your homes?

It's self fulfilling prophecy.

Jesus wouldnt ask his followers to just get a disease because it'd own the romans.

[Danth]

Yeah, I mean we agree on every point then, except, that what we did was jump to threatening you with jail for not wearing a mask.

I promise the only people that are pushing that argument are the ones that are trying to convince you that it's true.

On this you are thoroughly mistaken. I've been threatened with arrest for refusing to wear a mask several times, now. I will not wear one under any circumstances--Uncle Sam can go stuff himself. So far the police who've been called on me have stopped with threats because most of them don't particularly want to be the mask police. Most of them think it's BS too (and in most cases, amusingly enough, aren't wearing 'em themselves). That'll change as soon as the wrong cop (or one having a bad day) happens to be called out. I expect I might spend a night or two in the clink before this is over with. It is a citizen's duty to resist tyranny. Silently "protesting" from the comfort of your own home, risk-free, is not enough, and won't accomplish anything. On this, at least, BLM has the right idea: If you want change, you have to be willing to go out there and put your butt on the line.

Agree with my actions or not, but the threats of arrest are very much real.

Danth

[booter]

imagine not being able to refute any points in a forum post so the best you can do is attach the format of the post and say how much you hate the imagine format

just imagine

[FatherSioux]

https://www.nbcnewyork.com/news/local/jewish-catholic-groups-sue-ny-state-amid-crackdown-on-religious-gatherings-schools/2671617/

[Gwaihir]

What the right (and left!) should be doing is working on clarifying what activities are safe to do outside, what are not, and how to implement them.


OOo OOoo me me.

What activities are safe to do outside?

Easy answer: all of them, because COVID is a hoax; aggrandizing the common cold to the status of Pandemic.

Don't trip; this isn't World War Z.

Better luck next virus, China!

[Jibartik]

On this you are thoroughly mistaken. I've been threatened with arrest for refusing to wear a mask several times, now. I will not wear one under any circumstances--Uncle Sam can go stuff himself. So far the police who've been called on me have stopped with threats because most of them don't particularly want to be the mask police. Most of them think it's BS too (and in most cases, amusingly enough, aren't wearing 'em themselves). That'll change as soon as the wrong cop (or one having a bad day) happens to be called out. I expect I might spend a night or two in the clink before this is over with. It is a citizen's duty to resist tyranny. Silently "protesting" from the comfort of your own home, risk-free, is not enough, and won't accomplish anything. On this, at least, BLM has the right idea: If you want change, you have to be willing to go out there and put your butt on the line.

Agree with my actions or not, but the threats of arrest are very much real.

Danth

Who threatened to arrest you danth? You are the most mild mannered person around here. I cant imagine you got threatened to be arrested.

Are you telling me that you went into establishments, and had the police called on you by the owners of those establishments? Because they could have done that for any reason they wanted to. If the police came, under any circumstances because they asked you to leave the premises, you'd be threatened with an arrest. (obviously if it was discrimination its different but you not believing in the law is not discrimination, its you not agreeing with the law)

If the police were called because you were not wearing a mask and were asked to by the owner of the establishment you were occupying, and you were threatened to be arrested, could it be because you were asked to leave and you did not and were therefore trespassing? (you dont have to explain to me how the police probably treated you like shit and used excessive force when dealing with you though) (but that has zilch to do with masks.) (In fact masks have zilch to do with tyranny, but the excessive force however does! lol )

You know the old saying, dont let perfet be the enemy of good? Like resisting tyranny is one thing but resisting it like this? that's totally different. It's harming yourself and your community, because you are taking things a little bit too overboard. Anti mask is just the like, stay at home version of rioting during protests.

Like going to jail over masks? Bruh, how about my taxes? If youre going to jail, go to jail over taxes, but masks?? Come on. You start fighting this hard to reduce my taxes by 70-90% and Ill go to the clink with you.

[Raev]

Reminder: MASKS DO NOT WORK

The people not wearing the masks are the actual scientists. I find it quite amazing that people are so set on making others wear masks despite zero evidence for this other than CNN repetition. And if someone else is afraid of the monsters under the bed, isn't it the responsibility of the adults in the room to explain this to them, rather than letting the children run the house?

[Jibartik]

Raev's post just made me decide to kill myself.

[Woke Locc]

Reminder: MASKS DO NOT WORK

The people not wearing the masks are the actual scientists. I find it quite amazing that people are so set on making others wear masks despite zero evidence for this other than CNN repetition. And if someone else is afraid of the monsters under the bed, isn't it the responsibility of the adults in the room to explain this to them, rather than letting the children run the house?

If masks were effective, would it be proper to enforce wearing them under penalty of law?

Tell us what part of the spectrum ur on

[Raev]

Raev's post just made me decide to kill myself.
Don't be afraid of Science!

If masks were effective, would it be proper to enforce wearing them under penalty of law?

The law enforces all sorts of safety measures, like seat belts, various safety warnings, window exits in case of fire, etc. If masks actually worked, and COVID was more dangerous than the flu, I'd be happy to wear one, and if it was really dangerous I would support mandatory masking. I have no problem doing something nice for my neighbors as long as their request isn't rooted in a propaganda-driven hallucination.

Tell us what part of the spectrum ur on

Somewhere in the Yellow / Green area.

[Danth]

Who threatened to arrest you danth?

In two cases local police, in the third cases county sheriff's deputy.

All three cases specifically indicated something to the effect of "if you don't put on a mask we can arrest you (albeit once was somewhat jokingly)." Two cases were on private property (businesses) and I de-escalated the issue merely by agreeing to leave. The third was on public property and some timid woman apparently called and complained. In that specific case I knew the officer who responded and he knew I used to be a LEO so he sort of went through the motions to put on public face before leaving me to continue on my way.

Anyhow, I'm not attempting to debate you, here, on the merits of masks or the danger of corona, only making a correction to the point you claimed. I'll let you know if I end up actually being arrested over it--right now it feels about 50/50 within the next few months. The wife says she saw one man in Wooster actually get arrested for it, but I believe he was later released without charge.

Danth

[Patriam1066]

Either the entire planet is wrong and it’s a hoax designed to dupe rednecks, or the rednecks are wrong

Tough call. Also, don’t pull the american exceptionalism BS. Half of us have to work ever harder to keep the rest of you on insulin and off opioids. Do better and get smarter. Believe science, the Bible, and most importantly, stop being rednecks

[douglas1999]

The entire planet is not an authoritative body; most people are stupid. If the entire planet were to arrive at a consensus about something, it would almost certainly be wrong.

[douglas1999]

Also the WHO is woefully biased and influenced; see the rep /q'ing when asked about Taiwan

[Castle2.0]

A 2017 legal contract found on Hunter Biden's laptop reveals a former Chinese official agreed to pay Biden a $1 million retainer just to offer advice on retaining other law firms in U.S. The Chinese official was convicted the next year of paying bribes in unrelated deal.

Incoming "LOOK A SQUIRREL!" stories to distract from the Hunter Biden emails.

If this sees the light, it's gonna sink Joe, and rightfully so.

[Woke Locc]

Also the WHO is woefully biased and influenced; see the rep /q'ing when asked about Taiwan

To be fair, that question is better phrased as "would you like to ruin your relationship with China for no good reason?". Their mission is promoting global health, not satisfying your political appetites.

[douglas1999]

To be fair, that question is better phrased as "would you like to ruin your relationship with China for no good reason?". Their mission is promoting global health, not satisfying your political appetites.

Oh! Well that's good. I'm glad an organization literally called "the world health organization" can be bought. Great news.

Fuck Taiwan, they wan't to be autonomous and stuff.

[Woke Locc]

Oh! Well that's good. I'm glad an organization literally called "the world health organization" can be bought. Great news.

Fuck Taiwan, they wan't to be autonomous and stuff.

I like Taiwan too but WHO has no business in politics. Dont be a penis

[Elrood]

A 2017 legal contract found on Hunter Biden's laptop reveals a former Chinese official agreed to pay Biden a $1 million retainer just to offer advice on retaining other law firms in U.S. The Chinese official was convicted the next year of paying bribes in unrelated deal.

Incoming "LOOK A SQUIRREL!" stories to distract from the Hunter Biden emails.

If this sees the light, it's gonna sink Joe, and rightfully so.

No one gives a shit, Rudy.

[Jibartik]

The entire planet is not an authoritative body; most people are stupid. If the entire planet were to arrive at a consensus about something, it would almost certainly be wrong.

yeah doug is right, this is who we should listen to only:

https://i.imgur.com/HZViQYm.png

:rolleyes:

[douglas1999]

I like Taiwan too but WHO has no business in politics. Dont be a penis

They clearly do, whether they want to or not. Pleading the 5th when you're supposed to be the "WORLD HEALTH ORGANIZATION" and you're asked a question as simple as "Will you consider taiwan's membership?" is incredibly alarming. What do you think they actually do? Issue 100% correct guidelines for the good of all mankind? It's yet another horseshit organization of idiots with a happy-sounding name.

[douglas1999]

yeah doug is right, this is who we should listen to only:

https://i.imgur.com/HZViQYm.png

:rolleyes:

No Jibartik I did not say that even remotely. You shouldn't listen to any single person only, you should listen to as many people as possible, with some mind to their credibility, and make up your own mind as a sentient human being.

[BlackBellamy]

yeah doug is right, this is who we should listen to only:



No, he's talking about the Three Wise Men:

https://imgur.com/zpkSpWj.jpg

https://imgur.com/dSeGka6.jpg

https://imgur.com/CjdGtQQ.jpg

Ha ha just kidding about that last one I was gonna go for O.J. but he wasn't overtly political.

[Woke Locc]

They clearly do, whether they want to or not. Pleading the 5th when you're supposed to be the "WORLD HEALTH ORGANIZATION" and you're asked a question as simple as "Will you consider taiwan's membership?" is incredibly alarming. What do you think they actually do? Issue 100% correct guidelines for the good of all mankind? It's yet another horseshit organization of idiots with a happy-sounding name.

You would trade 1.4 billion souls to gain 24 million who agree with you ideologically

Retarded cuck

[BlackBellamy]

That's a nice photo though. Everyone prays for Trump. See that woman with the yellow hat?

She's infusing Trump with the Spirit of Wakanda.

https://imgur.com/1yRwv3v.jpg

[douglas1999]

You would trade 1.4 billion souls to gain 24 million who agree with you ideologically

Retarded cuck

What? Please elaborate because I seriously can't parse this

[Woke Locc]

What? Please elaborate because I seriously can't parse this

The Chinese government would withdraw entirely from the WHO if it recognized Taiwan. This undermines our health as a species.

Hth

[douglas1999]

The Chinese government would withdraw entirely from the WHO if it recognized Taiwan. This undermines our health as a species.

Hth

Uhh, please elaborate. That's an incredibly bold statement (that it would undermine our health as a species) and I don't understand how you're possibly so sure of it.

Again, I understand that The CCP has a lot of money and influence. I don't necessarily understand how that translates to the WHO being a dependable authority on "world health" which is an inherently vague term. The best medical therapies and medicines still come from america... shouldn't they be coming from china? Or for that matter, the world health organization? I agree, "world health" is good, that doesn't mean the organization called "world health" is actually providing "world health". Please convince me that they are, with actual real information and not name calling.

[Morton Jr]

220K dead Americans. Many more to come. How fucking braindead retarded do you have to be to look at this and think "not a big deal, it's a hoax"?

Don't give us this "motorcycle death" bullshit either. Covid is killing Americans and your fucking president doesn't give one single shit nor has he done one thing to stop it. So fuck him and fuck you, too.

Edit: You will forever be on the wrong side of history. Mark my words. Enjoy it over there, ya fucking loser.

Over where? Here in america? Sorry donald lives in your head rent free and your country is boring.

It's also interesting to note...

"Facebook’s global policy manager for content regulation, Anna Makanju, advised Joe Biden on Ukraine policy during his time as Vice President. She also defended Biden from charges of wrongdoing with regards to Ukraine in a comment to the Washington Post last year."

Twitter in the hot seat for deleting negative things about joe biden today, facebook too. Funny how the tides have turned?

My money's on six million.

6million seems like a good number to settle on.

Sadly its most likely going to be close to that in the REAL global death count, i have heard many horrible stories on my phone this year from people that visited other countries, in america the death rate is low because we have medical treatment for sick people, in other countries hospitals are LOCKED and you cant walk in, they have guards outfront too and dead bodies are on the sides of the road.

One of many more emails to come from Hunter Biden's ex business partner...

https://www.scribd.com/document/480635518/PDF-2013-10-05-Operation-Ketchup-Heinz-vs-Hunts

Wasnt worth reading, also i would hang out with hunter biden 100% ( his dad is a fgt tho )

I don't really care which walking corpse 'wins'

Sorry you dont get to live in the greatest country in the world AMERICA

The debate is going to be awesome I cant wait hahaha

Not to justify Biden because I didnt justify it when Trump did it, but that's what trump did to the press and every accusation for the last 4 years and like as recently as the town hall lol.

And i hope my boy donald is feeling up to it and can squish biden like a bug, unfortunately 60% of people have already early voted or mail in voted so its just a show.

Strange post weirdo. Pull a gun on any black teenagers lately?

Fun fact: I could crush all of Africa with just my Shepherd’s hands. No gun needed

Ten bucks the first african kid would whoop your ass

https://i.imgur.com/Sb6RpYw.jpg

Boring

It was the greatest fall the world had ever seen.

Mad poster

Reminder: MASKS DO NOT WORK

The people not wearing the masks are the actual scientists. I find it quite amazing that people are so set on making others wear masks despite zero evidence for this other than CNN repetition. And if someone else is afraid of the monsters under the bed, isn't it the responsibility of the adults in the room to explain this to them, rather than letting the children run the house?

Covid19 is microscopic, it goes right through the mask when you exhale and right through when you inhale, not to mention 90% of people have the blue masks made of cloth and it goes right on the sides of your nose. Sure n95s work but no one can breathe in them so they arent very popular.

The Chinese government would withdraw entirely from the WHO if it recognized Taiwan. This undermines our health as a species.

Hth

China is a communist country, nothing they say is even close to true, they said this week they have had no covid cases in 2 months. Anyone calling shenanigans?

[Woke Locc]

Uhh, please elaborate. That's an incredibly bold statement (that it would undermine our health as a species) and I don't understand how you're possibly so sure of it.

Again, I understand that The CCP has a lot of money and influence. I don't necessarily understand how that translates to the WHO being a dependable authority on "world health" which is an inherently vague term. The best medical therapies and medicines still come from america... shouldn't they be coming from china? Or for that matter, the world health organization? I agree, "world health" is good, that doesn't mean the organization called "world health" is actually providing "world health". Please convince me that they are, with actual real information and not name calling.

America is better than China and it's in our interest to not have them eating each other or resurrecting smallpox and spreading it to our allies.

The WHO is one of our avenues to that end.

Memeing against it is spiritual treason.

[Jibartik]

It's sad to me we had to make this look like a children's book illustration out of cheese to explain this.

https://i.imgur.com/LNlDYpj.png

[Morton Jr]

Contact tracing is hilarious

I got covid, ok whered you go? Walmart, Chevron, Publix, To a party, then went to bed

Ok who was at the party?

[Jibartik]

idk who this is or if its related to anything we're talking about ITT but it sounds like politics https://twitter.com/thedailybeast/status/1318314577180884993

With as frustrating as the internet has made politics I think all these videos need to be available for us to see to make up for it.

[Woke Locc]

idk who this is or if its related to anything we're talking about ITT but it sounds like politics https://twitter.com/thedailybeast/status/1318314577180884993

With as frustrating as the internet has made politics I think all these videos need to be available for us to see to make up for it.

Holy shit lol

[Raev]

So I decided to make absolutely sure that I was !Scientifically Correct! in my position that MASKS DO NOT WORK and I found this excellent article: https://aapsonline.org/mask-facts/

Please note the massive amount of actual science quoted, and the easy, simple conclusion that MASKS DO NOT WORK, with the possible exception of N95s, and no one is wearing those because it is very difficult to breathe through them. Then add in the fact that COVID IS PRACTICALLY HARMLESS, i.e. it's about as dangerous as the flu, and there is absolutely no logical reason for masks (or lockdowns for that matter).

[Jibartik]

It's sad to me we had to make this look like a children's book illustration out of cheese to explain this.

https://i.imgur.com/LNlDYpj.png

I cant believe I have to quote this facebook children's illustration for adults.

[Elrood]

I cant believe I have to quote this facebook children's illustration for adults.

You have to, because people like Raev are mentally deficient and need things spells out to them like the uneducated, dogshit-for-brains losers that they are.

[Patriam1066]

OOo OOoo me me.

What activities are safe to do outside?

Easy answer: all of them, because COVID is a hoax; aggrandizing the common cold to the status of Pandemic.

Don't trip; this isn't World War Z.

Better luck next virus, China!

The average trump voter

God help us

[Jibartik]

https://youtu.be/LDrUQ0dUOWw

lol you better win or we're gonna lock you all up! muhahaha

[Patriam1066]

Is that Jeffrey Toobin thing a joke? Jewish people are making this too easy, are any of them not sexual deviants?

[Topgunben]

Know this is a little early, but I’m calling it a win for Trump.

Let the tears flow libs.

[Jibartik]

Haha we all know this. The only shot biden has is that it just happens that way lol.

[Castle2.0]

Steve Bannon is savage. If you want the scoop on the Hunter emails, check this short video out.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_zhWHsfEa0U

Big US media is refusing to report so you got the Aussies coming to to shine some light.

If he delivers, Joe is toast. With approx 2/3 of voters having not cast their vote yet, this could be the gamechanger.

This could crush the democrat party for at least one more election cycle, and they would NEVER live down the corruption tag.

They would never live down their totally failed vetting of a totally corrupt candidate. Bernie bros will never forgive the establishment.

I'm going to wait for more info to drop to see how this pans out. Not looking good for Joe or the dems.

[Jibartik]

https://youtu.be/LDrUQ0dUOWw

lol you better win or we're gonna lock you all up! muhahaha

If biden wins I'm gonna turn over castle for spreading the fake story about hunter and get my $1000 reward.

[AenorVZ]

:D

Fake scandal.

https://twitter.com/ericgarland/status/1317308247271931904

Real scandal.

[Jibartik]

iirc the left was crying about free speech like a year or two ago and the trump supporters were going on about how free speech only protects the goverment from silencing you, but private organizations do have that right.

What were we all upset about back then? I want to know because now the right is suddenly saying "twitter is going against the spirit of the first amendment" so now suddenly your free speech being silenced by individuals is protected by the same arguments the left was making back then, according to these flip flopping know it all's.

So what was it? Anyone remember what was the thing the left was upset about being silenced over back then? Someone's gotta. It cant have been more than a year or two ago.

I cant for the life of me remember, but I remember being dumfounded when I heard libertarians very calmly explaining to me why they did not support me and it was that the first amendment only protecgts the goverment from silencing me, it does not "grant me the right to free speech"

Like I was like "I have a right to free speech and _____ is clearly preventing it!" and they were like, "_______ isnt the goverment, so they can silence you if they want you have no right to free speech."

Man I wish you trump supporters wouldn't come up with a new totally insane thing to try to gasslight me about every 2 months its like a perpetual carnival in this country these days. I cant remember what year it is half the time based on all the scandals this last 4 years it should have been 400.

[Castle2.0]

*ignores hard evidence*

*shares link to 10 minute audio I'm not going to listen to*

*does not share any hard proof: pictures/videos/documents *

*claims big scandal*


Hmmmmm. Tell you what. Let's hold ourselves to an equal and fair standard. If you got:

Emails
Text messages
Never before seen compromising personal pictures
Contracts
Names, dates, times
Co-conspirators confessing and providing full access to their Gmail and all original emails with full meta data (not photos or PDF copies)


THEN I'll take a look.

We have ALL the above for Hunter's emails. So go take a look ;)

[Jibartik]

When none of the content of that computer turns out to be incriminating I promise youll die on the hill of free speech shouting 'muh free speech'.

[Castle2.0]

I've always been a proponent of free speech. If this turns out to be fake, then the people that pushed it should be held accountable by the public and ignored in the future.

For example, Rachel Maddow, Adam Schiff, and others claimed Trump colluded with the Russians. Adam Schiff had "more than circumstantial evidence" which never materialized.

Those people can be ignored now. They pushed a conspiracy theory for years that has been debunked. They made wild claims they never backed up.

They are free to lie on camera when not under oath. More and more people will ignore them.

I am not claiming the Hunter story is 100% guaranteed true. I just see more and more evidence and am becoming more convinced and encourage others to look at the evidence themselves.

I'm going to hold off final judgment for a few more days or week. Let's see what else drops.

Wouldn't it be nice to see Joe and Hunter Biden make a strong denial and sue the NYPost for libel... oh wait, why aren't they? They are just avoiding it.

[Jibartik]

Out of curiosity what is the current up to the minuet theory on what happened, that hunter himself turned this in on a bender? (is he even alive? I have zero knowledge about all this stuff because I fill my head with elves and orcs)

And have we heard from the FBI about how they turned down this laptop and why or who that was that passed on it? Your link just said taht he didnt hear back from the FBI, whats the scoop on that? "I have 5000 pictures of hunter biden doing drugs and incriminating emails about china, and the FBI doesn't call you back and you just give up?

wait..

Ok im going to run you down the timeline this lady just walked us through in your link Castle....

1. "[about the content in the laptop] were recovered from a laptop that was reportedly dropped off at a repair shop in 2019"
2. "before it was handed over to the FBI"
3. "it was said to be a water damaged Macbook Pro"
4. "never never retrieved"
5. "the shop owner tried to contact the client" (so they know who dropped it off?)
6. "the owner from this repair shop said when he didn't hear back from the FBI"
7. "he made a copy of the hard drive and gave it to trumps lawyer"

ok so I have some questions here...

So it was handed over to the FBI, but then the FBI also never contacted the shop owner, so he then makes a copy of it? I thought she just said he handed it over, now they never returned his calls? Which is it?

Then his next reflex is to look up trumps lawyer to send it to him? not the new york post? not any other media? He finds, trumps lawyer?

Did he just google "call trumps lawyer"?

This story seems a bit silly to me lol

What more do we know about this store owner?

[White_knight]

that hunter himself turned this in on a bender?

Daddy told him no more crack so he did it out of vengeance.

[Jibartik]

No matter what happens, even if there was some "seems shady" business practices going on on this laptop, nobody will ever convince me that it's even close to the same level of corrupt business practices the trump family practices.

Im hearing numbers from Bannon in this interview that compared to trump and "his numbers" im like, pfft that's a coffee table for mr golden toilet.

[Castle2.0]

Jibartik, I'll answer according to what I understand now.

First, some background on Hunter.

https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2019/05/17/exclusive-2016-arizona-police-report-cocaine-pipe-found-in-car-rented-by-joe-bidens-son-hunter-biden-authorities-declined-to-prosecute/

Police reported is linked inside that article. He returns a rental car with "white powdery substance," personal items, a crack pipe, credit cards, drivers license all left inside. Oh and the keys were misplaced in the gas tank compartment.

It's no secret the dude is a druggy and all about that sex. Dating your dead brother's widow makes one wonder...

Back on the specific topic at hand now.

My understanding from different interviews is this...

1. He contacted the FBI first. FBI came and took the computer and made a forensic copy then returned it to the store owner - it belonged to him by State law once it was abandoned for 90 days. They said if the owner came looking for it to say it will take more time and to not hand it over, but then contact the FBI again.

2. Hunter never came back for it. Since he hadn't heard anything from the FBI, he made his own copy - maybe concerned the FBI would bury the story? This, we don't know.

I am not sure if he made copies before the FBI took it or after they returned it.

3. He reached out to multiple people before Rudy. It may have been an interview of Rudy - I don't have it in front of me now. I think one of the people was a Republican congressman. After he failed to reach some of these people he reached out to Rudy because he saw him on TV.

Can hear from Rudy yourself here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9LuSpHJNPe0

He goes in-depth on the financial ties.

No matter what happens, even if there was some "seems shady" business practices going on on this laptop, nobody will ever convince me that it's even close to the same level of corrupt business practices the trump family practices.

1) You dont seem to know the numbers then. Taking ANY money for corrupt gain should disqualify people from office. It's enough to send them to jail.
2) Soandso said a number... Oh no... Do they have bank records, emails, text messages, co-conspirators confessing?

We know there are lies out there. Let's follow the facts and find the truth.

If you have proof of Trump corruption hand it over to the FBI. They would LOVE to get it ;)

[Jibartik]

agree'd but I dont think youll have anything that isnt any different than anything they had about russia I mean. There was all kinds of incriminating sounding stuff in the news about that but I was like pfft yea right, just like I am right now. These are politicians were talking about, they're untouchable. And right now the only way you could touch one is with a civil war so they're like super untouchable right now. It sucks but it is what it is.

If the stuff turns out to be same as russiagate then yeah libel suits should go down and so should the NYP for good, would love to see a media empire crumble.

and if there is a clear cut case for sending a politician to jail cool, but even if there was, itd be so obfuscated that yeah, civil war would be the only way.

So they're all untouchable right now.

[Castle2.0]

Cynical and fatalistic won't help you much in life. I don't think that attitude comports with reality either.

Things build and build... then they shift.

Maybe more building to come. But there will be a shift sooner or later. Hopefully not a civil war. I can see dems returning to being more moderate and less "REEEEEE" on everything. Kick AOC/Bernie types out of the party. Clean house of the corrupt folks.

It's John Kerry's family too - not just the Bidens.

If all this comes out true - Joe/Hunter in bed with China, Russia, Ukraine, etc. in a corrupt way - it could trigger reform from the dems. If not ideologically, it will set them back politically. With executive + SCOTUS, I think next cycle this could even push House/Senate strong Republican.

With that kinda power, they will go after the dem strongholds of power: academia and media. School vouchers so money follows kids, not schools. Teachers unions power weakened. Checks on government funding of universities to see if they are protecting free speech. Section 230 reform (this is actually coming very soon any way) which will keep Big Tech honest - or anti-monopolistic action if needed.

The list goes on. America could shift hugely in the next 4 years and this could be the blast cap to the powder keg.

As far as Biden corruption, if it's the real deal there should be a lot more info coming out in the coming week. Keep your eyes open and don't think you'll hear it on CNN ;)

[hobart]

If all this comes out true -

It won't.

They've managed to coverup a pedophilia ring in the basement of a pizzeria that doesn't have a basement. This should be n.p.

[Wrekt]

I just hope you idiots are trolling. If not, then this world is 100% fucked.

[BarnabusCollins]

Yahoo News/YouGov poll: The tide turns against Trump as Biden surges to his largest-ever lead among likely voters

Sounds and looks like a repeat of Hillary's massive defeat and the biggest loser is the press again. Make Press Unbiased Again

It's ok to hide the fact the CIA just killed JFK like Walter Cronkite did (he knew) but please do not be biased!

The press has always been a false propaganda machine ever since the first newspaper.

Cant stand snowflakes but at the same time I know Trump and Rudy know what the Illuminati did two decades ago and that's bad. Very bad.

As such, I am voting for God Almighty to run the Office of the President of the United States. Otherwise, China eats us.

He can come into anyone he chooses, any time he chooses. He can will the miraculous. He can will the impossible.

[BarnabusCollins]

You can let President Biden open the U.S. Borders wide open its not jihadists we need to worry about, but the Illuminati. They will nuke their own people if it comes to it.

[BarnabusCollins]

The wrath of God Almighty be upon them. They all know who carried out 9/11 and why. The LORD of Hosts alone for President.

[BlackBellamy]

The Chinese government would withdraw entirely from the WHO if it recognized Taiwan. This undermines our health as a species

So we're all agreed that the WHO would be the most effective if every single nation-state was a member, right? And we're also agreed that if there is a dispute, it would be better to retain a larger state than a much smaller one, since logically we would want to retain as much membership as possible, right?

So it's settled that we should always acquiesce to demands of larger states, especially when they're authoritarian dictatorships, because we know there's no talking to those people. That is a much better path toward preserving world health.

Sorry, I'm being snarky. Let me lay out a more compelling argument against giving a flying fuck what the goddamn Chinese want.

China is a closed militarized authoritarian dictatorship currently transitioning from communism to classic fascism. This means all information it puts out are lies. This means it will lie to the WHO. The WHO will then take that fake data and fuck everyone by incorporating it. The WHO is worse for it because we won't be able to trust it.

The net benefit of incorporating a giant block of liars is less than a smaller completely honest population. Which source would you trust more?

1) Hi, we have information for you, it's 100% complete but definitely 25% lies.

2) Hi, we have 75% of the information we promised but that 75% is as solid as it gets. Wait, it's actually 76% because welcome Taiwan!

The WHO can still gather information from China, because it can use observation, like science that they're paid to do instead of just hitting refresh on their email client waiting for the next complete_lies.pdf to arrive from Beijing. And even if it can only gather another 5% that still will be accurate and we can add it to the accurate data that we have.

So logically we should exclude China from the data set. If you think with your head you know I'm right.

But...if you think with your heart, listen to this; we should never acquiesce to demands of dictators and kings. One of our greatest mistakes of modern times was allowing China to bully the world around the fully independent new state of Taiwan. The people of Taiwan, just like us, fled from tyranny, and just like us established a new state, and just like us established borders and a military, and just like us established a fully representative and democratic government.

Taiwan isn't China's 'province'. That's some Hitler-level shit! What is this, the fucking Sudetenland all over again? Taiwan is a fully independent sovereign state. We let those cocksuckers bully them and us and for what? Empty promises made and lies delivered instead?

We should tell the UN they have 72 hours to make Taiwan a full member-state or get the fuck out of the US and go to fucking Brussels to be forgotten.

Nothing undermines our health as a species as moral decay.

[Castle2.0]

Don't challenge Woke Locc, he is a total China expert.

It won't. How would you like your crow, salty or spicy?

You can compare Pizzagate to Russiagate - equally legit. This, isn't based on 4chan conspiracy chatter or a fake dossier :D

[FatherSioux]

It's rich that folks want to compare RussiaGate to this Hunter Email scandal. One popped up two weeks ago and the other went on for nearly four years and found nothing worth note, oh and it cost us all $30 Million dollars(Pennies but still).

I'm one of those guys who was quite anti-Trump in 2016, vocally. Now I'm on board because the Left has gone completely too far. They are running on anti-American platforms and wondering why white men and other people who have been able to succeed in this wonderful system don't enjoy being told they are racist.

[Woke Locc]

So I decided to make absolutely sure that I was !Scientifically Correct! in my position that MASKS DO NOT WORK and I found this excellent article: https://aapsonline.org/mask-facts/

Please note the massive amount of actual science quoted, and the easy, simple conclusion that MASKS DO NOT WORK, with the possible exception of N95s, and no one is wearing those because it is very difficult to breathe through them. Then add in the fact that COVID IS PRACTICALLY HARMLESS, i.e. it's about as dangerous as the flu, and there is absolutely no logical reason for masks (or lockdowns for that matter).

Hey I'm gonna chip away at your argument by playing the 'seatbelts are tyranny, too!' angle. Would you mind saying masks are hmm, let's go with 10% effective? It would help a lot. :p

So we're all agreed that the WHO would be the most effective if every single nation-state was a member, right? And we're also agreed that if there is a dispute, it would be better to retain a larger state than a much smaller one, since logically we would want to retain as much membership as possible, right?

So it's settled that we should always acquiesce to demands of larger states, especially when they're authoritarian dictatorships, because we know there's no talking to those people. That is a much better path toward preserving world health.

Sorry, I'm being snarky. Let me lay out a more compelling argument against giving a flying fuck what the goddamn Chinese want.

China is a closed militarized authoritarian dictatorship currently transitioning from communism to classic fascism. This means all information it puts out are lies. This means it will lie to the WHO. The WHO will then take that fake data and fuck everyone by incorporating it. The WHO is worse for it because we won't be able to trust it.

The net benefit of incorporating a giant block of liars is less than a smaller completely honest population. Which source would you trust more?

1) Hi, we have information for you, it's 100% complete but definitely 25% lies.

2) Hi, we have 75% of the information we promised but that 75% is as solid as it gets. Wait, it's actually 76% because welcome Taiwan!

The WHO can still gather information from China, because it can use observation, like science that they're paid to do instead of just hitting refresh on their email client waiting for the next complete_lies.pdf to arrive from Beijing. And even if it can only gather another 5% that still will be accurate and we can add it to the accurate data that we have.

So logically we should exclude China from the data set. If you think with your head you know I'm right.

But...if you think with your heart, listen to this; we should never acquiesce to demands of dictators and kings. One of our greatest mistakes of modern times was allowing China to bully the world around the fully independent new state of Taiwan. The people of Taiwan, just like us, fled from tyranny, and just like us established a new state, and just like us established borders and a military, and just like us established a fully representative and democratic government.

Taiwan isn't China's 'province'. That's some Hitler-level shit! What is this, the fucking Sudetenland all over again? Taiwan is a fully independent sovereign state. We let those cocksuckers bully them and us and for what? Empty promises made and lies delivered instead?

We should tell the UN they have 72 hours to make Taiwan a full member-state or get the fuck out of the US and go to fucking Brussels to be forgotten.

Nothing undermines our health as a species as moral decay.

If you know they lie, you can account for it strategically. If you let them get away with lying, they will forcibly vaccinate every single godless Han citizen. China is our most important ally in the fight for herd immunity against Covid-19. We have to do a little evil to do a great amount of good.

Seek temporal remission elsewhere, Jack. :cool:

[BlackBellamy]

October 13th, date the NY Post story comes out - Biden up 7.

One week later, October 20th, Biden lead cut to nearly half at 3.8.

https://imgur.com/uPQUNhf.jpg

Next week polls will be even.

On election day Trump will have 3 point lead.

[BlackBellamy]

We have to do a little evil to do a great amount of good

...said the Germans as they shipped Lenin to St. Petersburg. Who killed more people, the Nazis or the Soviets?

...said the US when they trained Osama Bin Laden to blow up Soviet BMPs. Was 9/11 worth 'containing' the USSR in Afghanistan?

Apologists for evil are the worst. You give up a little and a little more and then you're all fucking surprised when the door opens and all you see is a blood-spattered hay bale in front of you.

[Raev]

I just hope you idiots are trolling. If not, then this world is 100% fucked.

If you just stop and think for a second, the logical part of your brain will tell you that OF COURSE sociopaths will dominate any organization, because they are focused on obtaining power by standing at the top and are willing to do whatever it takes to do so, while normal people are vaguely concerned about the theoretical purpose of said organization. As the sociopaths/SJWs/pedophiles/satanists/etc gradually infiltrate, they promote each other so that together they can exploit the peasants at the bottom more freely until they reach critical mass, when the organization can no longer fulfill its nominal purpose and collapses.

The only question is whether the logical part of your brain can thus overpower the emotional part, which definitely does not want this to be true.

The Chinese government would withdraw entirely from the WHO if it recognized Taiwan. This undermines our health as a species.

Of course it doesn't. All of these global organizations are fundamentally Orwellian: their purpose is the exact opposite of their name. Actual facts (https://aapsonline.org/mask-facts/) make it clear that masks are ridiculous. Actual facts (https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/covid-data/forecasting-us.html) make it clear that COVID is just the flu. So why are these organizations screaming panic at the top of their lungs? Because our elites have been busy shitting up Western Civilization by printing huge amounts of money and giving it to themselves and importing low IQ/low skill immigrants, and they need something to blame the impending collapse of the economy on that doesn't involve the peasants grabbing their pitchforks.

America could shift hugely in the next 4 years and this could be the blast cap to the powder keg

Serious question for you, Castle. I think you are good person who would like to Make America Great Again. What would be necessary for this to actually happen, in a moderate level of detail? I think once you begin to write this out your viewpoint may change.

[Woke Locc]

...said the US when they trained Osama Bin Laden to blow up Soviet BMPs. Was 9/11 worth 'containing' the USSR in Afghanistan?



Shit, that's a good question. I'll think on it.

[FatherSioux]

Get your mask facts here folks! (https://aapsonline.org/mask-facts/)

[kjs86z]

https://i.imgur.com/zFTvu6B.jpg

[Patriam1066]

Those are white people. Y’alls godlessness led us to this.

[Patriam1066]

October 13th, date the NY Post story comes out - Biden up 7.

One week later, October 20th, Biden lead cut to nearly half at 3.8.

https://imgur.com/uPQUNhf.jpg

Next week polls will be even.

On election day Trump will have 3 point lead.

lol

[Castle2.0]

October 13th, date the NY Post story comes out - Biden up 7.

One week later, October 20th, Biden lead cut to nearly half at 3.8.
October 13 -- Look at the polls, trust the experts.
October 20 -- We have new polls and new experts. Ignore the old polls and old experts.

The experts to be trusted are the experts WE deem experts. Therefore, WE are the super experts. Trust me, I'm an expert.

What would be necessary for this to actually happen, in a moderate level of detail?
So many permutations of what could happen. SCOTUS is going right. One or two more nominees from 2020-2024 and it's STACKED. With SCOTUS, executive branch on the right, Senate holds and if house goes right as well... who knows what could happen.

Political violence against conservatives and rioting / unrest will be one of the biggest immediate challenges when Trump wins. The right will probably use it as an opportunity to put into place some strong anti-rioting laws / enforcement.

That would be a good move, but any legislation should simultaneously strengthen protections of free speech and the right to peacefully protest. We need both.

Power play impeachments without a real crime will be totally impotent weapons. The left used it as a political weapon to hurt Trump's reelection chances. Once that is gone such illegitimate impeachments have no power. Trump can simply ignore any such future impeachments and focus on his agenda.

Domestically, economy / COVID, big tech, platinum plan, nuclear energy, Antifa and China will be on the agenda. This is exactly what Trump should do.


Open up economy, get it roaring again so people are happy and feel they have purpose
Shut down big tech censorship (use Section 230 ruling and/or anti-monopoly law)
Spend significant time/money helping black America. This demographic is slowly shifting more right. (Blexit / Candace Owens, and others are helping this movement.) It's the right thing to do and it will help with future elections.
Improve our energy situation - the Green Nuclear Energy Deal
Squash the violent left that wants to violently oppose democracy in action
Lastly, going beyond domestic affairs, take on China. Mainly because they are a threat. But it also keeps our focus off the venom in the media / social media

[Nuggie]

https://i.imgur.com/zFTvu6B.jpg

Hell of a beer bell there.

[Raev]

Domestically, economy / COVID, big tech, platinum plan, nuclear energy, Antifa and China will be on the agenda. This is exactly what Trump should do.

Open up economy, get it roaring again so people are happy and feel they have purpose
Shut down big tech censorship (use Section 230 ruling and/or anti-monopoly law)
Spend significant time/money helping black America. This demographic is slowly shifting more right. (Blexit / Candace Owens, and others are helping this movement.) It's the right thing to do and it will help with future elections.
Improve our energy situation - the Green Nuclear Energy Deal
Squash the violent left that wants to violently oppose democracy in action
Lastly, going beyond domestic affairs, take on China. Mainly because they are a threat. But it also keeps our focus off the venom in the media / social media


I agree with all of these ideas in principle. But the devil is in the details:

What does it mean to get the economy 'roaring' again? If we have massive wealth inequality, is it roaring for everyone? How many people actually find meaning and purpose in their corporate drone jobs?
How do we help Black America? If the massive transfer of wealth in their direction over the past 50 years has not worked, why should more work now? Why do we care more about Black America than Poor White America, or Latino America? What about Mulatto America?
How do you improve our green energy situation? We don't have enough lithium or cobalt to run everything on batteries, even if we had nuclear plants to power them. If we decide to burn less energy, who has to reduce their consumption the most?
How does one 'squash' the violent left? Do you censor them, or jail them? What about people like Elrood and Pretzelle who are inciting violence online?
How do we 'take on' China? I assume you do not mean nuclear war. Do we stop trading with them altogether? Do we expel Chinese foreign nationals? Both of these involve definite winners and losers within America.


In contrast, your idea to shut down Big Tech is much more concrete, and I definitely think we should do both.

[Patriam1066]

If you just stop and think for a second, the logical part of your brain will tell you that OF COURSE sociopaths will dominate any organization, because they are focused on obtaining power by standing at the top and are willing to do whatever it takes to do so, while normal people are vaguely concerned about the theoretical purpose of said organization. As the sociopaths/SJWs/pedophiles/satanists/etc gradually infiltrate, they promote each other so that together they can exploit the peasants at the bottom more freely until they reach critical mass, when the organization can no longer fulfill its nominal purpose and collapses.

The only question is whether the logical part of your brain can thus overpower the emotional part, which definitely does not want this to be true.



Of course it doesn't. All of these global organizations are fundamentally Orwellian: their purpose is the exact opposite of their name. Actual facts (https://aapsonline.org/mask-facts/) make it clear that masks are ridiculous. Actual facts (https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/covid-data/forecasting-us.html) make it clear that COVID is just the flu. So why are these organizations screaming panic at the top of their lungs? Because our elites have been busy shitting up Western Civilization by printing huge amounts of money and giving it to themselves and importing low IQ/low skill immigrants, and they need something to blame the impending collapse of the economy on that doesn't involve the peasants grabbing their pitchforks.



Serious question for you, Castle. I think you are good person who would like to Make America Great Again. What would be necessary for this to actually happen, in a moderate level of detail? I think once you begin to write this out your viewpoint may change.

We’re in the late republic phase (Rome’s institutions failing post 133 BC). That doesn’t mean conspiratorial thinking will help. Anti-monopoly legislation and gradually increasing interest rates back to 3-5% would undo most of the economic problems we face. House prices are higher even as interest rates are low. Why? Because banks offer no returns, so the wealthy only put money into real estate and stocks. And the poor don’t see a means to find returns large enough to save for a home

This could easily be undone, but crying “the Jews” or “the globalist” doesn’t turn back the clock. It just alienates sane people who could otherwise be amenable to fixing them excesses of our system. We also need deep reform to our institutions. Open primaries, elections with rank choice voting, etc

Basically, allowing more opinions into the system than just republicans and democrats, who are both bought and paid for

[Raev]

Get your mask facts here folks! (https://aapsonline.org/mask-facts/)

Yes! Patriam and Castle are saying some useful things as well. I feel like we are finally getting a few decent posts here in this thread now!

We’re in the late republic phase (Rome’s institutions failing post 133 BC). That doesn’t mean conspiratorial thinking will help.

Just to be clear, I think there is absolutely nothing wrong with the world as it is right now. It is serving its intended purpose perfectly.

gradually increasing interest rates back to 3-5% would undo most of the economic problems we face.

Your points regarding the financial bubble are well taken. But the US national debt is currently $27 trillion (https://usdebtclock.org/). 4% interest would require about $1 trillion in interest per year. Historically it has been impossible for countries to pay off over 100% debt/GDP in real terms. So we have to choose between a deflationary collapse (massive defaults) or inflationary collapse (Venezuela/Weimar Germany style wheelbarrows of printed cash).

elections with rank choice voting, etc. Basically, allowing more opinions into the system than just republicans and democrats, who are both bought and paid for

Yes, I agree 100%, but how do you plan to accomplish this within a political system that is obviously designed NOT to work? The fact of the matter is that a substantial fraction of Americans prefer the status quo. You have the welfare leeches on the bottom, the people who like the moral superiority of lecturing their betters, and of course the psychopaths at the top who have no intention of letting go of their power.

Like I told Castle, the devil is in the details.

[Castle2.0]

Biggest thing is open the freaking economy. We had record low unemployment and record high stock market. This included record low unemployment for black Americans
Tossing money doesn't work. It doesn't work for schools or low income communities. People need social support systems in place. I worked with inner city kids for years in a mentorship program. The social component of success is huge. Seeing other people being successful that you know and modeling what they do. Seeing others from your situation go on to become successful and having faith the process works. No idea if the platinum plan will achieve this. If it's just more money, it won't work. Also, my focus isn't on "EQUALITY OF ALL" my focus is on "BETTER FOR ALL." I don't care if Bezos has 2 trillion or 20 trillion. I care if people at all levels are improving. Capitalism when it's well executed does this.
Develop more nuclear plants.
Crack down on riots. Arrest rioters. Antifa already labeled terrorist organization - start arresting leaders/organizations and charging them. Investigate where funding is coming from. Don't censor people. If people make clear calls for physical violence, charge em.
Taking on China has happened to some degree. CCP is has 90M members. You cannot be a member and become a US citizen. No longer can CPP members send their kids to US for citizenship while the kid is still a professing member. This is a start. I lived in China 10+ years, too much to unpack here. The whole dialogue on China has shifted globally. EU refused to lead, the US is now leading. Expect some big changes in the future. Definitely some big risks as well.

[Danth]

Your points regarding the financial bubble are well taken. But the US national debt is currently $27 trillion (https://usdebtclock.org/). 4% interest would require about $1 trillion in interest per year. Historically it has been impossible for countries to pay off over 100% debt/GDP in real terms. So we have to choose between a deflationary collapse (massive defaults) or inflationary collapse (Venezuela/Weimar Germany style wheelbarrows of printed cash).

Penn Central 2.0, but on an international scale. As in that case, if we go, we'll drag a lot of other leveraged nations down with us. That reality is helping prop things up longer than might otherwise be the case (if we were Venezuela, we'd have collapsed already). The complete lack of even the pretense of financial responsibility in the federal government over the past twenty years should disgust everyone. Instead it barely receives mention in media since it's no longer a political talking point--both parties are guilty and turn a blind eye. I'd say it's our own fault, but it really isn't. Nobody asked FDR to take the dollar off the gold standard. Nobody asked Nixon to let it free float. The government took that power on its own, people's opinion be damned, and neither party was interested in fixing it because they all have their hands in the pot. It's too late now, we're past the point of recovery, now it's only a question of when the bottom gives out (played skillfully, they might kick that can down the road for many years) and how bad it'll be when it happens.

As I age I gradually accept that governments are much like the ecology of western North America: Either of them have to burn once in awhile to get rid of the rotten rubbish undergrowth and renew themselves.

Danth

[Domo]

just checked Trumps twitter and I think got brain damage

[Raev]

We had record low unemployment and record high stock market

Unfortunately, neither of these are true. The unemployment numbers are "adjusted" (http://www.shadowstats.com/alternate_data/unemployment-charts) based on people who have given up work and many of those jobs are part time waiters and bartenders or low skill stuff like Amazon stockers. The stock market numbers are an illusion created by fiat money. When priced in gold (http://pricedingold.com/sp-500/), the stock market has never recovered from the dot com crash. It just looks that way due to all of the Fed printing.

Tossing money doesn't work. It doesn't work for schools or low income communities. People need social support systems in place. I worked with inner city kids for years in a mentorship program. The social component of success is huge. Seeing other people being successful that you know and modeling what they do. Seeing others from your situation go on to become successful and having faith the process works. No idea if the platinum plan will achieve this. If it's just more money, it won't work. Also, my focus isn't on "EQUALITY OF ALL" my focus is on "BETTER FOR ALL." I don't care if Bezos has 2 trillion or 20 trillion. I care if people at all levels are improving. Capitalism when it's well executed does this.
All of this is excellent, especially the parts on equality and mentorship. But why hasn't this approach worked already? Has every social worker since 1960 been doing it wrong?

Antifa already labeled terrorist organization - start arresting leaders/organizations and charging them. Investigate where funding is coming from. Don't censor people. If people make clear calls for physical violence, charge em.

OK, this is all very reasonable. Except that I think you would be absolutely shocked if you found out where all that funding was coming from.

Taking on China has happened to some degree. CCP is has 90M members. You cannot be a member and become a US citizen. No longer can CPP members send their kids to US for citizenship while the kid is still a professing member. This is a start.

Certainly reasonable. But what do you think about http://www.deepthroatipo.com/ ? (normally I would post a link, but his name is just too good). The short version is if our cumulative deficit with China is some $20 trillion then, adding in interest, the CCP owns some $40 trillion in US stocks and bonds via a large number of shell companies.

[Raev]

just checked Trumps twitter and I think got brain damage

Don't you think this post is rather low quality compared to those that surround it? Or are you just desperate to stir up more partisan anger?

I'd say it's our own fault, but it really isn't. Nobody asked FDR to take the dollar off the gold standard. Nobody asked Nixon to let it free float.

You aren't really wrong, but then, no one tried to stop them either. They couldn't do these things if they couldn't convince the public it was basically OK to do so.

now it's only a question of when the bottom gives out (played skillfully, they might kick that can down the road for many years)

They won't kick any more. The whole point of COVID is to distract everyone from the inevitable fiat collapse.

As I age I gradually accept that governments are much like the ecology of western North America: Either of them have to burn once in awhile to get rid of the rotten rubbish undergrowth and renew themselves.

The founders would have been shooting long ago. Modern men are enervated by chemicals and distracted by porn and, dare I say it, video games.

[Fame]

Google vs. US

The solution is obviously to subject these corporations to the governments will?

[Jibartik]

Cynical and fatalistic won't help you much in life. I don't think that attitude comports with reality either.

You are the most cynical and fatalistic person here! You're afraid of me being a draconian communist, that is the definition of being cynical and fatalistic.

If you think socialism is communism Id argue you're being a hard core fatalist, because you're cynical about humans and the structure of our goverment.

[Domo]

Don't you think this post is rather low quality compared to those that surround it? Or are you just desperate to stir up more partisan anger?


nah dont think so.

I dont really care who wins. And I think that most people know who they voting for since 4 years. So why even talk about the election.

Or does anyone here think they can persuade someone to vote for someone else than they planed to vote for before?

But Trumps Twitter is cancer, simple as that. An Manbaby crying about everyone who isnt kissing his ass and spreading fake news like candy.

But hey, it seems to work for him and his fans.

[FatherSioux]

Let’s leave this Domo alone, he seems genuinely sad and beaten down by the daily grind.

[Jibartik]

Trump supporters: liberals have ruined this country, we need to make America great again, because it's terrible, Liberals are communist's, communists worship Satan and are trying to destroy the fabric of society and turn us into a single gender abomination, funneling money to corrupt demons who invented climate science to become a new world religion.

Liberals: I love you neighbor, I make great money in the new frontiers of our economies! lets all work together! I love this place! Trump is an asshole.

Trump supporters: Sounds like Liberal is genuinely sad and beaten down by the daily grind.

[Jibartik]

Told ya! https://twitter.com/RightWingWatch/status/1318585013944942593?s=20 evangelicals are trying to self fulfil bible prophecy.

‘Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in your name and in your name drive out demons and in your name perform many miracles?’ Then I will tell them plainly, ‘I never knew you. Away from me, you evildoers!’

I for one will enjoy not paying taxes before the sky darkens. :o

[FatherSioux]

Liberals: I love you neighbor, as long as you hold the exact same beliefs as me on everything. I make money, sometimes, but not too much because too much success is bad.lets all work together, to overthrow the winners, too long they have won! I hate this place!Trump is an asshole.

[Morton Jr]

Get your mask facts here folks! (https://aapsonline.org/mask-facts/)

Conclusion: Wearing masks (other than N95) will not be effective at preventing SARS-CoV-2 transmission, whether worn as source control or as PPE.

ive been saying masks do nothing since feb, only n95 do something and you will still get covid all over yourself and breathe in a particle when you take it off

We cant control the spread for a reason, its too infectious

Only herd immunity will save us, everyone needs to get sick as soon as possible, no vaccine is coming.

Even the drugs they came out with dont do a fucking thing.

[Morton Jr]

nah dont think so.

I dont really care who wins. And I think that most people know who they voting for since 4 years. So why even talk about the election.

Or does anyone here think they can persuade someone to vote for someone else than they planed to vote for before?

But Trumps Twitter is cancer, simple as that. An Manbaby crying about everyone who isnt kissing his ass and spreading fake news like candy.

But hey, it seems to work for him and his fans.

Ladies and gentlemen this poster has no money in the bank

[Jibartik]

FatherSoiux

Exact same beliefs? :confused:

I think wearing a mask helps prevent the spread of airborn viruses and you all think I'm a communist idiot because of that lol Liberals want you to say out loud that black lives matter and to admit that racism plays a part in todays society.

Also yes Jesus, someone whom you've said guides the right and not the left, would agree too much successis bad.

And your last bold: gerrymandering and voter ID laws? See, lol both sides try to "overthrow" aka WIN the game of teams based politics.

[Domo]

Ladies and gentlemen this poster has no money in the bank

What?

How many forum accounts you got here and why?

Are you liking your own post like a dog who licks his own ass or are you getting banned often here because you're not able to follow simple forum rules?

Just asking.

[Raev]

video of stupid people who identify as 'right' saying stupid things

Following a site that cherry picks the dumbest members of a group is little more than mental masturbation. Rather than rejoicing that we are not at the absolute bottom of God's evolutionary scale, we should be looking upwards at the people who are doing things better than us in the hope we can take a step or two upwards.

I think wearing a mask helps prevent the spread of airborne viruses and you all think I'm a communist idiot

What is your preferred term for "someone who refuses to read a short summary of scientific articles that thoroughly refutes their beliefs"? Regardless, the good news is that you can easily graduate from this state once you decide its more important to be correct than to be right, and while you may find this surprising, almost no one will think less of you for it. After all, every intelligent person got there by constantly removing their incorrect opinions as the world proved them so.

[Jibartik]

What is your preferred term for "someone who refuses to read a short summary of scientific articles that thoroughly refutes their beliefs"?

Raev. :o

[Raev]

If you provide me with some evidence masks work I am happy to read and possibly update my position <shrug>