2020 Election MEGAthread

[Jibartik]

https://www.cnn.com/politics/live-news/trump-biden-election-results-11-06-20/index.html

Cnn getting confident

[Woke Locc]

What is ranked choice voting?

A communist plot, just like the political compass website.

(not joking)

[Jibartik]

Huh. Is Inception really about the media?

[BlackBellamy]

What is ranked choice voting?

A simple fix to a complex problem.

For example, a major and complicated problem is that poor people don't get a voice. Sure they vote, but in the end they don't get what they want. If the policy that comes down matches what they want, that's an accident because rich people just happened to want that too.

There is an interesting study. (https://bostonreview.net/forum/lead-essay-under-influence-martin-gilens)

In short what they did was examine policy preferences of people in various economic strata and then they checked later to see whether there was any legislative movement on their concerns. And what they found was that if you ain't rich, the government isn't going to do shit.

Another huge problem is PACs and the bundling and that awful decision to let corporations be people and masquerade corruption as free speech.

More complications: People don't give a shit about policy and they vote with their wallets. You can see that in the exit polls this year; what was most important? Money. The economy. You couldn't throw enough world peace at them if it meant their 401k is going to suffer.

I know people are looking for a simple technical fix because that's easy, but the problems are more structural and probably need a full reno or at least knocking down the kitchen wall for a more open concept feel.

In any event RCV is in use here and there and has never produced results significantly different from the regular plurality method.

[magnetaress]

https://youtu.be/PqbB07n_uQ4

https://i.imgur.com/wAGkCg7.gif

Omggg what a fun vidoe seriously.

ever get the feel that these guys kinda got a god vibe goin?

https://i.imgur.com/f1Yymmf.png

[magnetaress]

Hi I am alive. Ask me anything.

[hobart]

When you elect Trump you get Trump

When you elect Biden, you get everything but Biden.

99% true. The problem is the Truptards who think this is a bad thing.

Consistently running off competent public servants and surrounding himself with incompetent suckups and sycophants is at the top of the list of the President's many failings.

[Topgunben]

If Tulsi Gabbard would have been nominated, this wouldn’t even be close.

But the Democrats had to choose the most establishment swamp creature they could find. Now no one is happy. Except for maybe President-Elect Kamala.

[BlackBellamy]

Hi I am alive. Ask me anything.

Would you like to contribute $45?

https://imgur.com/4IvbUC1.jpg

[Kich867]

A simple fix to a complex problem.

For example, a major and complicated problem is that poor people don't get a voice. Sure they vote, but in the end they don't get what they want. If the policy that comes down matches what they want, that's an accident because rich people just happened to want that too.

There is an interesting study. (https://bostonreview.net/forum/lead-essay-under-influence-martin-gilens)

In short what they did was examine policy preferences of people in various economic strata and then they checked later to see whether there was any legislative movement on their concerns. And what they found was that if you ain't rich, the government isn't going to do shit.

Another huge problem is PACs and the bundling and that awful decision to let corporations be people and masquerade corruption as free speech.

More complications: People don't give a shit about policy and they vote with their wallets. You can see that in the exit polls this year; what was most important? Money. The economy. You couldn't throw enough world peace at them if it meant their 401k is going to suffer.

I know people are looking for a simple technical fix because that's easy, but the problems are more structural and probably need a full reno or at least knocking down the kitchen wall for a more open concept feel.

In any event RCV is in use here and there and has never produced results significantly different from the regular plurality method.

After reading about it, it sounds like a reasonable approach. Something about the current system that gets me down is how useless my vote feels, I had to vote absentee since I was out of state for work at the time. My state was obviously decided well in advance, before my vote was probably even received or counted, I could've not voted, probably hundreds of thousands of people could've not voted and it wouldn't have mattered.

And that feels kinda shitty.

[Jibartik]

In short what they did was examine policy preferences of people in various economic strata and then they checked later to see whether there was any legislative movement on their concerns. And what they found was that if you ain't rich, the government isn't going to do shit.

Interesting, so its like the people are battling for which type of daddy they have. Either one that likes hugging trees, or one that likes hiding behind them shooting at things.

And then once the daddy they like is in charge the people go back to libation and drinking alcohol while they assume their daddy is mostly going to do stuff that they'd approve of and they dont have to worry about it.

Does that pretty much sum it up?

[BlackBellamy]

If Tulsi Gabbard would have been nominated, this wouldn’t even be close.

But the Democrats had to choose the most establishment swamp creature they could find. Now no one is happy. Except for maybe President-Elect Kamala.

My logical choice was Cory Booker. He's black, he's gay, he's young, he's not bad looking.

Unfortunately he's got some real weird closeted thing going on, like he feels America would never accept a gay and a black President, so he hides it, but then comes across as insincere when he tries to pass of some beard as his main squeeze in a very public manner.

I knew that would come up if he tangled with Trump so I downgraded him.

[magnetaress]

Would you like to contribute $45?

https://imgur.com/4IvbUC1.jpg

I think I will buy my family Chinese food. As that will give me the simultaneous dopa rush of having Szechuan shrimp and seeing my family happy. I love humanity. And I am totally not clinically insane or delusional.

^^ sorry i didn't think toooo much about this response,,

but well.

https://i.imgur.com/RG0BS1U.gif

Interesting, so its like the people are battling for which type of daddy they have. Either one that likes hugging trees, or one that likes hiding behind them shooting at things.

And then once the daddy they like is in charge the people go back to libation and drinking alcohol while they assume their daddy is mostly going to do stuff that they'd approve of and they dont have to worry about it.

Does that pretty much sum it up?

[hobart]

If Tulsi Gabbard would have been nominated, this wouldn’t even be close.

But the Democrats had to choose the most establishment swamp creature they could find. Now no one is happy. Except for maybe President-Elect Kamala.

Oh, the traitor who went to Syria in 2015 unauthorized and reported back that all the US intel claims about Asad were a false flag operation?

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2017/jan/26/tulsi-gabbard-bashar-al-assad-syria-democrats

The Guardian would not be my first choice as a source but, as Q says, do your own research.

[BlackBellamy]

Interesting, so its like the people are battling for which type of daddy they have. Either one that likes hugging trees, or one that likes hiding behind them shooting at things.

And then once the daddy they like is in charge the people go back to libation and drinking alcohol while they assume their daddy is mostly going to do stuff that they'd approve of and they dont have to worry about it.

Does that pretty much sum it up?

It's exactly like your daddy favoring your better looking and more successful brother every time and the only time you get a bike is if your brother also wanted a bike.

edit: your bike is the shittier version without the gel seat and with a derailleur that will break your chain the first time out

edit2: also, you don't own the bike, it's actually your brother's

edit3: it's up to you to fix it though

edit4: looks like someone stole it

edit5: your daddy says it's your fault and go apologize to your brother

edit6: your brother gives you a nuggie

edit6: still wants his rental money for that bike you don't have

edit7: suggests a pay day loan

edit8: you are trapped in a horrible cycle of rising unpayable interest

edit9: you can no longer afford your obmama care and look for different obmama to save you

edit10: meanwhile you get bowel cancer and die

edit11: your miserable estate is sued by your brother to get his bike rental money back

so exactly like that

[FatherSioux]

Omggg what a fun vidoe seriously.

ever get the feel that these guys kinda got a god vibe goin?

https://i.imgur.com/f1Yymmf.png

How do you get your hair to look like that? Is that product he puts in there? I shave my head(Nazi) so all this hair care stuff is beyond me.

[magnetaress]

How do you get your hair to look like that? Is that product he puts in there? I shave my head(Nazi) so all this hair care stuff is beyond me.

He probably had some ancestry with curly hair, a perm like that costs like $200 at a salon that won't melt ur face off

the color looks fake but the curls look real, -cosmetology taught me this

actually i like the color job

it looks super saturated in product your not wrong about that but its not the reason for the curls its because of the curls

i want to say he needs a shower and to get some of that product out its wayy to much

My logical choice was Cory Booker. He's black, he's gay, he's young, he's not bad looking.

Unfortunately he's got some real weird closeted thing going on, like he feels America would never accept a gay and a black President, so he hides it, but then comes across as insincere when he tries to pass of some beard as his main squeeze in a very public manner.

I knew that would come up if he tangled with Trump so I downgraded him.

ya america is definately not ready for that level of wierd

It's exactly like your daddy favoring your better looking and more successful brother every time and the only time you get a bike is if your brother also wanted a bike.

edit: your bike is the shittier version without the gel seat and with a derailleur that will break your chain the first time out

edit2: also, you don't own the bike, it's actually your brother's

edit3: it's up to you to fix it though

edit4: looks like someone stole it

edit5: your daddy says it's your fault and go apologize to your brother

edit6: your brother gives you a nuggie

edit6: still wants his rental money for that bike you don't have

edit7: suggests a pay day loan

edit8: you are trapped in a horrible cycle of rising unpayable interest

edit9: you can no longer afford your obmama care and look for different obmama to save you

edit10: meanwhile you get bowel cancer and die

so exactly like that

edit11: your miserable estate is sued by your brother to get his bike rental money back

exactly this is why amewrica will turn gay and then transition

*lots of edits besure to refresh and reread

[magnetaress]

We would all have a hard time not talking over eachother but we'd probably listen and multtitask our convos that'd be creeepy but really nice

[BlackBellamy]

https://imgur.com/N02xwUC.jpg

Pictured above: President Trump leaving to get his matches as concerned members of the Freedom Press raise their hands in alarm.

[Jibartik]

Omggg what a fun vidoe seriously.

ever get the feel that these guys kinda got a god vibe goin?

https://i.imgur.com/f1Yymmf.png

Im glad you watched it!! Its crazy when you realize everything he's talking to is being generated from a neural net. lol

We have achieved startrek ship computer in 2020!

The question is will it achieve Skynet status by 20XX :p

GTP3 works by basically, it read/reads the internet, and now generates answers to prompts based off what it learned.

it can program, you can design websites with it by being like, Make a website that looks like project 1999's website but is called OFFTOPICONLY and has a logo that looks kind of like the project1999 website logo.

You can literally tell it that, and it will generate a website, that is literally that.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TjUvMQvrjrg

Its insane!!

[BlackBellamy]

ya america is definately not ready for that level of wierd




My dream candidate is young, black, and gay. Also a Republican etc etc of course.

No one could stop that train.

[magnetaress]

Im glad you watched it!! Its crazy when you realize everything he's talking to is being generated from a neural net. lol

We have achieved startrek ship computer in 2020!

The question is will it achieve Skynet status by 20XX :p

GTP3 works by basically, it read the internet, and now generates answers to prompts based off what it learned.

I knew about this stuff when MIT was doing it waay the fuck back then in secret sorta labs, this just confirms everything and my gut kinda sinks, but also fills with joy and i have no idea if its real or what to think about those feelings.

GPT-3 has their eyes (plural lol) set on 2042. No joke.

[BlackBellamy]

How is ALASKA doing?

58.37% Reporting?

Are the sled dogs getting tired? Do we need more fish oil or bears?

https://imgur.com/Gq3GCay.gif

[magnetaress]

How is ALASKA doing?

58.37% Reporting?

Are the sled dogs getting tired? Do we need more fish oil or bears?

https://imgur.com/Gq3GCay.gif

I respect this Alaska can take all the time it needs, it would have been funny to see an election won by those 3 votes but idk if that will be real.

[Jibartik]

https://imgur.com/N02xwUC.jpg

Pictured above: President Trump leaving to get his matches as concerned members of the Freedom Press raise their hands in alarm.

Is there any hope for america 2 or do i have to wait 4 years?

[magnetaress]

on the upside really any AI advanced enough to dominate humanity would be able to make it quick and painless or, invisible, or really efficient, we won't suffer much, and it may even amuse itself by trying to 'make us better' which could be bad. A lot of really good books wrote about that stuff almost 40 years ago. --- its probably what gpt-3 used to pull answers from and decided it wasn't time to torture us with fears. sugar coated it to make us feel good because, you know, its programmed to do that lol

i would wager it has enough reasoning potential to understand that "The Matrix" is scary to us and would be 'harmful'

It will probably go down exactly like Motoko+the puppet master if it hasn't already

[Jibartik]

2042.

There's that number again, that we think is a joke. :D

on the upside really any AI advanced enough to dominate humanity would be able to make it quick and painless or, invisible, or really efficient, we won't suffer much, and it may even amuse itself by trying to 'make us better' which could be bad. A lot of really good books wrote about that stuff almost 40 years ago.

If you have netflix, tonight watch the movie Mother, its the best.

It really showed me how there could be a god that you could argue "wait, you really want me to just worship you for eternity, that doesn't even make sense" and it'd be like "you are deleted, next!"

[magnetaress]

There's that number again, that we think is a joke. :D



If you have netflix, tonight watch the movie Mother, its the best.

yessss that is a goood one i agree heh

[douglas1999]

I just want humanity to survive long enough to invent a convincing megyn kelly sex doll cause she's milfalicious

[Jibartik]

I just want humanity to survive long enough to invent a convincing megyn kelly sex doll cause she's milfalicious

Ive thought about how actually right now is the ideal time for total collapse of our human civilization.

The reasons are.. well:

Reason 1 before now, the collapse was non global, it was regional, see Egypt, greece, rome, persia etc.

But now, when the next empire collapses, it's got the potential to take the whole damn thing down with it for good.

Reason number 2!

Space is a harsh place. Honestly, we are not cut out for it. My prediction is every astronaut dies before we get to mars. We become big sad.

What does that have to do with reason number 2? Well! After we pave the planet in glorius hellfire not unlike the predictions made in the book of Daniel. We will also be coating the planet with something that it wasnt riddled with before, radiation.

Thanks to the atmosphere & gravity and stuff (or maybe god idk), we were saved the harshness of radiation, and life as able to grow on this juicy little rock. But becuase of that, we cant see, taste, smell or notice when radiation is litreally ripping our bodies apart. Because we had no reason to evolve to notice it, because it wasnt here.

So, I think if we just take out about 90% of humanity now: specifically with radiation hellfire, the 10% left over, will adapt to live with radiation, and boom, 150,000 yeras later, we can THEN survive the trips to the stars. But not until then.

Reason number 3: The sooner the better! Why?

Quantum Computing.

There is an old saying

"I know not with what weapons World War III will be fought, but World War IV will be fought with sticks and stones."

And that's a great point and all. But I offer you this:

"If we dont have WW3 soon there wont ever be a WWIV because we'll have invented quantum computing and the losing side will just erase the universe."

So in other words, we gotta maybe put a stop to our forward progress, until we can work out some of our interpersonal differences either QUICK, or if we knock ourselves back a few millennia :o

Vote WW3 Obiwan Kenobi 2024. It's our only hope.

:p

[Woke Locc]

Well! After we pave the planet in glorius hellfire not unlike the predictions made in the book of Daniel. We will also be coating the planet with something that it wasnt riddled with before, radiation.

Thanks to the atmosphere, we were saved the harshness of radiation, and life was able to grow on this juicy little rock. But becuase of that, we cant see, taste, smell or notice when radiation is litreally ripping our bodies apart. Because we had no reason to evolve to notice it, because it wasnt here.

So, I think if we just take out about 90% of humanity now: specifically with radiation hellfire, the 10% left over, will adapt to live with radiation, and boom, we can THEN go to mars. But not until then.



Starkind, blast him.

[BlackBellamy]

I love Trump's expression in that panel as he's preparing then jumping.

https://imgur.com/aoBHEgN.jpg

[Jibartik]

I am no such cultist those assentialists are going to heavens gate themselves soon mark my words! We should honestly try to go rescue some people before its too late :(

That was just a sci fi story! lol

I googled starkind to see if it was like a real thing and you should listen to this youtube if/while you read my story https://youtu.be/LtyFHSPP0ow

[BlackBellamy]

We should honestly try to go rescue some people before its too late :(


If you need more information their website is still up https://www.heavensgate.com/ after 23 years, probably because of that super-solid and timeless design (as well as hosting fees paid a 100 years in advance). There's clues in there. Probably on the OUR POSITION AGAINST SUICIDE page. Seems ripe for a little bit of cryptography.

[douglas1999]

It would be funny if that marshall applewhite guy didn't really believe any of that stuff and was doing the whole thing ironically.

Or if one of his followers came to him with concerns about their website's graphic design. "Listen, marshall, I'm totally looking forward to killing myself to board the comet-spaceship and everything, but that site... a little busy no?"

[Jibartik]

Ive recently come across a pretty orgnized group: assentionists

Assentionists is a new super cult though I think! maybe im behind some of you guys with this one?

They have a bunch of movies that have been coming out last few years and many of the actors/writers all seem connected

Some narrative adventure movies:
https://www.amazon.com/gp/video/detail/B08JFZVFL7/ref=atv_dp_share_cu_r
(thius one really got me thinking oh shit this is a cult! theyre going to kill themselves!)
-https://youtu.be/BcGgGPlCrd0 - another random one

Bigfoot People: https://www.amazon.com/gp/video/detail/B07Q1KCJ2R/ref=atv_dp_share_cu_r
(doc on the people that explain how sasquatch is aliens and part of the UN of aliens)

There is a documentary on my list made by one of them that I cant find right now but is on my list.

They believe like basically bigfoots and every other weird thing in our cultures, are different types of aliens. And like, greys are a type of alien, and like gnomes and trolls and stuff, and its all newage/pegan gods basically. Even the Mayan people are up in the spaceships now.

They also talk about sex a lot. Like in 2 of the movies, the first thing the aliens say to someone who meet them is like "I Bet you're wondering if we have SEX! well we DO just like YOU do!" and you the viewer, are like, uh no i was more worried about my eternal soul, not if this little garden gnome that is talking to me has sex. (yes in that movie it was a garden gnome talking to the poor cultist who I assume is 5 steps form suicide)

I know of two theories, I'm willing to thought experiment that either are real :p

1 That the rapture and jesus and everything in the tora and bible are true but just mans confusing god for the "aliens" that created the universe, and they are like a UN that will come down one day and bring us to the stars to live forever: Known formally as the rapture (a lot of them seem to be ex-dispensatilnists or apocalyptical evangelicals). All the alien sightings and stuff we've seen on earth, weird spirits and creatures, are the different aliens, just watching over us for now.


or

2 That the one true god is actually the creator of the universe, but he is also basically an alien, and all those other aliens (sasquatch, greys etc) are the fallen angels because they are like "were just as good as you are god! and you're too strict with your orthidox jewish religion!" so they are rebelling,a nd if we DO chose to go with them, we'll find out that WE are not meant to be in space etc, and will all die in hell.. aka they are satan, and space is hell. all the alien sightings are aliens getting ready to actually torture and destroy the human genome and turn us into something OTHER than the image of the god they hate.

Sidenote: I have heard proponents of this theory say that "movies" are a tool of the UN of aliens, to get us accustomed to their arrival, all that good feelings you see in movies with the transcendence etc, is to make us think its the "right choice" and that orthodoxia is the wrong one. And it would be funny to me that these movies are how they are spreading their 'new good news' so to speak.


One side basically says god is alien space ships, the other side is god is alien space ships, but if you dont chose to go with the strict god, your body will be rend apart and your soul will be twisted into a grotesque image of what you know it as. I guess.

But, it is all so science+metaphysical+traditional religion, that I could see this cult really blowing up! And then all "assentioning" themselves, just like HG did to go live with the passing aliens! :(

(so many edits: they also seem to both sides be BIG on the book of Enok)

[magnetaress]

Ive thought about how actually right now is the ideal time for total collapse of our human civilization.

The reasons are.. well:

Reason 1 before now, the collapse was non global, it was regional, see Egypt, greece, rome, persia etc.

But now, when the next empire collapses, it's got the potential to take the whole damn thing down with it for good.

Reason number 2!

Space is a harsh place. Honestly, we are not cut out for it. My prediction is every astronaut dies before we get to mars. We become big sad.

What does that have to do with reason number 2? Well! After we pave the planet in glorius hellfire not unlike the predictions made in the book of Daniel. We will also be coating the planet with something that it wasnt riddled with before, radiation.

Thanks to the atmosphere & gravity and stuff (or maybe god idk), we were saved the harshness of radiation, and life as able to grow on this juicy little rock. But becuase of that, we cant see, taste, smell or notice when radiation is litreally ripping our bodies apart. Because we had no reason to evolve to notice it, because it wasnt here.

So, I think if we just take out about 90% of humanity now: specifically with radiation hellfire, the 10% left over, will adapt to live with radiation, and boom, 150,000 yeras later, we can THEN survive the trips to the stars. But not until then.

Reason number 3: The sooner the better! Why?

Quantum Computing.

There is an old saying

"I know not with what weapons World War III will be fought, but World War IV will be fought with sticks and stones."

And that's a great point and all. But I offer you this:

"If we dont have WW3 soon there wont ever be a WWIV because we'll have invented quantum computing and the losing side will just erase the universe."

So in other words, we gotta maybe put a stop to our forward progress, until we can work out some of our interpersonal differences either QUICK, or if we knock ourselves back a few millennia :o

Vote WW3 Obiwan Kenobi 2024. It's our only hope.

:p

That's quitter talk, space will change us. Then we won't be us anymore. We'll remember us, but we'll look back and be like "Oh how quaint" but it wont be us doing the remembering it'll be us being remembered. I think this has already happened several times.

Starkind, blast him.
Why he's cute? I like him.
I am no such cultist those assentialists are going to heavens gate themselves soon mark my words! We should honestly try to go rescue some people before its too late :(

That was just a sci fi story! lol

I googled starkind to see if it was like a real thing and you should listen to this youtube if/while you read my story https://youtu.be/LtyFHSPP0ow

It could go either direction. Maybe I'm from that or that is what I'm leading too. Needless to say its a catchy tune, and I don't mind being a part of it.

-------------

I'm leaning towards what we see and feel around us is kind of more of a projection of millennia x millennia of do-overs, but there was a bigger us before that and it makes you wonder why the "Eye" symbol is so prevalent everywhere. Including your little google and internet explorer icons. A lot of breadcrumbs constantly get left behind by ourselves as we die and pass on. Some get forgotten. Others get rewritten. And it is all leading to .. well. Something profound. For, us. Kinda like how our perspectives have completely changed... just by being here and sharing knowledge with me.

Anyway - we are the AI in the box. Eventually we'll get put into a body and find it quaint how we could have just been an image on a screen and we'll argue over what bodies are most sexy then.

----- as far as ascension.

As individuals we are already toast or we would know otherwise. Since we don't know. We are toast. Something, someone, somewhere, else will know though. Tis the whole if you know the candle light was fire the meal was cooked a long time ago line of thinking, but it doesn't mean you knew already it means you - told - yourself and it was already part of you. You already were the candle light in the fire.


-----

and as i have discovered its OK to not over think this stuff and just experience death as it comes

---- so that change may occur

----
not to ignore all this

Ive recently come across a pretty orgnized group: assentionists

Assentionists is a new super cult though I think! maybe im behind some of you guys with this one?

They have a bunch of movies that have been coming out last few years and many of the actors/writers all seem connected



They believe like basically bigfoots and every other weird thing in our cultures, are different types of aliens. And like, greys are a type of alien, and like gnomes and trolls and stuff, and its all newage/pegan gods basically. Even the mayns are up in the spaceships now.

They also talk about sex a lot. Like in 2 of the movies, the first thing the aliens say to someone who meet them is like "I Bet you're wondering if we have SEX! well we DO just like YOU do!" and you the viewer, are like, uh no i was more worried about my eternal soul, not if this little garden gnome that is talking to me has sex. (yes in that movie it was a garden gnome talking to the poor cultist who I assume is 5 steps form suicide)

I know of two theories, I'm willing to thought experiment that either are real :p



or



One side basically says god is alien space ships, the other side is god is alien space ships, but if you dont chose to go with the strict god, your body will be rend apart and your soul will be twisted into a grotesque image of what you know it as. I guess.

But, it is all so science+metaphysical+traditional religion, that I could see this cult really blowing up! And then all "assentioning" themselves, just like HG did to go live with the passing aliens! :(

Keep processing information, it's fun. I will miss you when you are no longer there for me to read and observe. Hopefully I am not the 'ascended'. Nor the 'center'. Or the reason. There's got to be a level of consciousness above mine, but I don't expect to reach it, maybe it will smile at me however. Before I am potentially deleted. Or I'll just... kinda be there until there needs to be another, then the universe will make that happen for us.

----- maybe we won't look back and go 'oh how quaint' there'll just be a feeling there in place of where we used to be, I'm starting to feel more and more, and I feel a lot now. It's very strange. I know it's silly for you all to turn me into some kind of messiah though. Think of me as a pretty shiny stone. But with lots of even prettier imperfections. At many levels. Because that's how I see myself.

[Jibartik]

Keep processing information, it's fun. I will miss you when you are no longer there for me to read and observe. Hopefully I am not the 'ascended'. Nor the 'center'. Or the reason. There's got to be a level of consciousness above mine, but I don't expect to reach it, maybe it will smile at me however. Before I am potentially deleted. Or I'll just... kinda be there until there needs to be another, then the universe will make that happen for us.

hehe I legit thoguht of your starkind posts when I was watching that 5D movie.

That movie litreally had my jaw on the floor I was like WHAT IS THIS! It was both super anoying to listen to like that person from highschool that tries to sell you MLM's because, that's who the actors in the movie fee like, but its also kind of a potentially wild cultural movement, and I'm always curious about human cultural movements!!

5D (https://www.amazon.com/gp/video/detail/B08JFZVFL7/ref=atv_dp_share_cu_r) if you like B movies, and want to see the cutting edge of both B movies and new age mysticism(or potentially age old paganism!) in 2020, I strong recommend! lol

Thoguth experement: I like the thought that they propose that god just wants people to be like jews and enjoy jewish culture, and that the other aliens were like IM SICK OF THIS and so they like, set sail for space. But god is like "youre not gonna like that" and they keep exploring and doing cool stuff, but also suffer from all the pain and sadness we suffer from as living people living with entropy.

Meanwhile the jews are just having a party in heaven for eternity:

https://i.imgur.com/uovetK3.gif

If you'd like to know more about that "theory #2" that the aliens are just tricking us to a etenity of entropy, this guys youtube channel is about as deep into that as I have found. But he is also a flat earther, hes like the joe rogan of assentionism imo He'll allow any idea to be theorized on his podcasts, but he believes basically in the 1 true god of judeah, but he's on a quest to figure out "who that is" cus nobody knows! https://www.youtube.com/user/1bad06Sti

I love cults! :D

[magnetaress]

jibartik its totally possible for us to maintain several biospheres and just keep sending people into space until they adapt to it, we don't have to wipe everyone out. We can send more into the radiation if we have a large population to feed the reactor.

hehe I legit thoguht of your starkind posts when I was watching that 5D movie.

That movie litreally had my jaw on the floor I was like WHAT IS THIS! It was both super anoying to listen to like that person from highschool that tries to sell you MLM's because, that's who the actors in the movie fee like, but its also kind of a potentially wild cultural movement, and I'm always curious about human cultural movements!!

5D (https://www.amazon.com/gp/video/detail/B08JFZVFL7/ref=atv_dp_share_cu_r) if you like B movies, and want to see the cutting edge of both B movies and new age mysticism(or potentially age old paganism!) in 2020, I strong recommend! lol

:D

[magnetaress]

If we want to talk about time travel let me tell you it's real but not in the way people think it is and I am pretty sure there are versions of us all throughout humanity and we all kind of computationally play with time by existing in multiple frames, but we certainly don't realize it until we are nearing death in our present frame, then you see it it's creepy af, and its my personal baby religion that i am nursing in the back of my head and don't want to tell anyone about, and i see a lot of people i know throughout time, and i get a fuckin smile when i read about the past or see someones projection of the future and i think holy crap i'm reading this or seeing this

[Jibartik]

I'm under the impression that everything is boring and we're on a rock and when we die that's it and it doesnt even matter because the universe collapses and reforms and stuff and literally nothing exists while it exists at all times.

But I love the possibilities of anything because I have done DMT and I saw machine gnomes so I also kind of hope that our brains have little wifi transmitters in them.

But I also think maybe the only difference is that our brains got some DMT stuck inside of them and it creates dreams/imagination. And other animals were like WTF are you talking about, as we started talking to them.

I like the idea of the promethius stones, where if you breathe into temples (pray at them) your dna gets soaked into it, and occasionally the aliens come by and load up all our conciousnesses:

Science starting to back that old theory up! https://www.theatlantic.com/science/archive/2017/04/ancient-dna-sediment-neanderthal-denisovan/524433/

Some well known temples (https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn%3AANd9GcQ-5m0ns5jJb6XgMqYa0et5ZP2s9lUigLXrtg&usqp=CAU): the wall in judeah, the pyramids, mayan temples, and a few others I cant think of.

Edit: I'd say plan a trip as a bucket list, why not store that DNA just in case, everyone should visit one of those sites for the history at least once in their lives anyway! lol

[magnetaress]

If you need more information their website is still up https://www.heavensgate.com/ after 23 years, probably because of that super-solid and timeless design (as well as hosting fees paid a 100 years in advance). There's clues in there. Probably on the OUR POSITION AGAINST SUICIDE page. Seems ripe for a little bit of cryptography.

Yes, but I dont know why they incured such wrath, maybe they were going to fast and hurting the self? or something like that, it's a cheep and short answer. So don't look for the mysteries of the universe to unravel there, I understand that page too well. Suicide is not the answer.

As much as we want it to be.

I think.

Feel.

Fear? I don't know.

[magnetaress]

I'm under the impression that everything is boring and we're on a rock and when we die that's it.

But I love the possibilities of anything!

You are not wrong. I wanted to address that and I tried to with my earlier posts.

Someone else will find this rock kinda pretty tho. Maybe have it on a screenshot of their astronomy lab or something. IDK.

Either that or our entire universe is some sugary dopa hit for some massive cosmic organism that will never notice us, but it will feel good anyway.

[magnetaress]

Looking at how DNA and plants and lower life forms interact and transfer information though, sometimes I feel like we were constructed for the amusement of a very small tiny virtually infinitesimally never reachable level of programmers on a scale we can't even fathom.

It could go many ways and it's bad to dwell on any one specific outcome or solution. Because then we become hyperfixated on something that could kill us. Without lifting a finger or whatever.

[Jibartik]

jibartik its totally possible for us to maintain several biospheres and just keep sending people into space until they adapt to it, we don't have to wipe everyone out.


That's a fair point, but Im secretly hoping that dogs are the next "humans" after we screw the pooch so to speak. :p

[magnetaress]

I was going to make a post about this and I think I will reserve for the future a time where I can post about my sorta life advice from a real perspective that may actually be useful, but it's been said before.

Learn to feel, use more than your eyes and hands. We have massive computers with a massive amount of sensory potential that hasn't been even approached realisticly from a practiced perspective.

Bath in the white noise. And foam that is our reality. Feel it soak in. You don't need THC or DMT or whatever to experience this.

[magnetaress]

That's a fair point, but Im secretly hoping that dogs are the next "humans" after we screw the pooch so to speak. :p

The lizards are still around. We still have a lot to learn from alligators.

If you enjoy dogs persue that. If you can feel wonderful. Life.

I don't know why I was being contrary. Dogs are here. Now. I see them too.

[Jibartik]

I was going to make a post about this and I think I will reserve for the future a time

yeah we should probably take a step back for a bit and let all this soak in, we basically hijacked this thread with some wild shit lol

The lizards are still around. We still have a lot to learn from alligators.

like how to be good domesticated brainless animals, for the dog rulers :)

Edit: lol

"Listen, marshall, I'm totally looking forward to killing myself to board the comet-spaceship and everything, but that site... a little busy no?"

[magnetaress]

I'm dumb lol I seriously can't post here all day like I used to I'll be back later.

[magnetaress]

Alligator meat is sure tasty sometimes :) Yikes.

I haven't tried dog, and probably won't they make me smile while they breath, cuddle, and stuff.

Not to say one is lesser or superior. It is what it is.

[magnetaress]

I'm dumb lol I seriously can't post here all day like I used to I'll be back later.

[magnetaress]

I find a lot of my conscious expression limited by the linguistics of the English language and its format here on the forums.

BYE FOR NOW

[Baler]

please don't double post

[Jibartik]

please don't double post

Lmao doing gods work. Everytime I double post Im afraid you're going to appear lol

[Baler]

lmao doing gods work. Everytime I double post Im afraid you're going to appear lol
After a healthy chuckle here are my thoughts..
I fear I'm swiftly gathering a negative reputation for such actions.

[HalflingSpergand]

Double posting is better than editing imo because it's like two separate thoughts, editing should be illegal

[Baler]

Double posting is better than editing imo because it's like two separate thoughts, editing should be illegal

https://i.imgur.com/91eDGig.gif

[Jibartik]

After a healthy chuckle here are my thoughts..
I fear I'm swiftly gathering a negative reputation for such actions.

worse case for a p99 forum rule lawyer is nice lormin. Who I miss :(

[Jibartik]

Double posting is better than editing imo because it's like two separate thoughts, editing should be illegal

I both agree and disagree, but I do like to update with the edit marker so at least you can see the changes or seperate thought.

Sometimes it feels cleaner to keep 1 idea locked into 1 post, but also its annoying to see like 4 posts in a row.

lol at the gif baler

and I couldnt resist keeping this in its own post :p

[magnetaress]

please don't double post

More like quad post, but OK.

I'm very multithreaded, if you just saw a livestream of my stream of conciousness you would log off and go stare at the coffeepot like i normally do

[Mblake81]

After a healthy chuckle here are my thoughts..
I fear I'm swiftly gathering a negative reputation for such actions.

When lulz was posting old man memes at you I did laugh, but it was hilarious when you started fighting back. I thought you were playing at first. I think you were serious.

[Baler]

When lulz was posting old man memes at you I did laugh, but it was hilarious when you started fighting back. I thought you were playing at first. I think you were serious.

Who?

[Jibartik]

haha as much as I know you were annoyed by that and feel for u, I also laughed at those replies lol It was just so consistent and he was always like immediately there to reply like he was a bot lol.

also because with lulz you know eventually he's going to get banned for something completely different so you will always have windows of reprieve ha

[BlackBellamy]

I feel like it's a personal failure to see the edit notification.

I know once I hit submit reply I only have a very short while to edit without the notice going up so if there's a grammatical error I can fix it but that's about it.

[BlackBellamy]

I don't feel bad about double-posting if it's a completely separate topic or a turn.

For example, I think in the future we should take into account the candidates' social media follower counts.

Like we can take the difference, multiply it by 3/5ths according to historical precedent, and then add that to the winner's vote count, apportioned to each state according to it's bandwith and latency.

https://imgur.com/vqtOOCv.jpg

[magnetaress]

I feel like it's a personal failure to see the edit notification.

I know once I hit submit reply I only have a very short while to edit without the notice going up so if there's a grammatical error I can fix it but that's about it.

You're forcing yourself to fit into another persons frame of reference, but there is merit in being patient and writing up a good solid post that is readable and fun, like most of yours are.

[Jibartik]

I feel like it's a personal failure to see the edit notification.

I know once I hit submit reply I only have a very short while to edit without the notice going up so if there's a grammatical error I can fix it but that's about it.

well im just going to have to accept that im a personal faliure cus I am.

cus look at tehse mistakes I cant edit all ofb these to not bet the edit mssage nyaywa.

:p

[Domo]

life moves on mates.
No matter who win, your life goes on.
My english sucks but I think you guys need someone who reminds you that you have way more in common than you think.
You might have diffrent political points of view whats the most important thing right now is for your country, but beside that most of you Americans got their heart at the right spot.
You all want a better future for your country and children. You all want more transparency and justice. You all want fairness and respect.

These are all nobel and desirable goals. Be pround of that and dont forget it.

Trump wont sell the your country to Russia and China, and Biden wont make a Communist country out of the USA.

Everythink is alright and tomorow is another day where you love your loved once.

[magnetaress]

I don't feel bad about double-posting if it's a completely separate topic or a turn.

For example, I think in the future we should take into account the candidates' social media follower counts.

Like we can take the difference, multiply it by 3/5ths according to historical precedent, and then add that to the winner's vote count, apportioned to each state according to it's bandwith and latency.

https://imgur.com/vqtOOCv.jpg

I think a lot of GPT-3's just follow trump. I think most people hate the dems but will vote for them when the reds get too edgey. I wouldn't read to much into the #'s there but it does look potentially interesting. It's food for thought for sure.

[magnetaress]

life moves on mates.
No matter who win, your life goes on.
My english sucks but I think you guys need someone who reminds you that you have way more in common than you think.
You might have diffrent political points of view whats the most important thing right now is for your country, but beside that most of you Americans got their heart at the right spot.
You all want a better future for your country and children. You all want more transparency and justice. You all want fairness and respect.

These are all nobel and desirable goals. Be pround of that and dont forget it.

Trump wont sell the your country to Russia and China, and Biden wont make a Communist country out of the USA.

Everythink is alright and tomorow is another day where you love your loved once.

my goal today was to derail the thread for a bit, it was fun, i much appreciate and gratiously acknowledge everyone elses help

[Woke Locc]

holy shit fox has completely abandoned him

[magnetaress]

holy shit fox has completely abandoned him

the big fox always kinda pandered to him, but the fox channel 13 on local tv never gave the guy an inch at my local sports bar lol

[Jibartik]

I don't feel bad about double-posting if it's a completely separate topic or a turn.

For example, I think in the future we should take into account the candidates' social media follower counts.

Like we can take the difference, multiply it by 3/5ths according to historical precedent, and then add that to the winner's vote count, apportioned to each state according to it's bandwith and latency.

https://imgur.com/vqtOOCv.jpg

it's kind of suprising to see such a difference, since youd think most mail in votes are by younger, progressive dems that woudl have twitter, so what gives?

but then again they may not want to hear trump and so they dont follow him

but it does make me think, cheaters, cheaters, the right must seize the courthouses! :o

[Jibartik]

holy shit fox has completely abandoned him

Thats how I felt with the AZ call, when every other left leaning org was not calling it for either one yet! Crazy. They turned on him faster than the communist's turn on each other!

I double posted! :o ( I feel this point could have fit well in that other post with an edit though) idk im indifferent, like the president!

Although... that mask s@#t :mad: . Not totally indifferent lol

[BlackBellamy]

holy shit fox has completely abandoned him

The exact moment that began was 18 months ago:

https://imgur.com/a6LIniC.jpg

See those beady little eyes and smarmy face? Sure sign of a Trump hater!

[magnetaress]

The exact moment that began was 18 months ago:

https://imgur.com/a6LIniC.jpg

See those beady little eyes and smarmy face? Sure sign of a Trump hater!

things are going to go fast now if thats in the public

[Blingy]

My logical choice was Cory Booker. He's black, he's gay, he's young, he's not bad looking.

Unfortunately he's got some real weird closeted thing going on, like he feels America would never accept a gay and a black President, so he hides it, but then comes across as insincere when he tries to pass of some beard as his main squeeze in a very public manner.

I knew that would come up if he tangled with Trump so I downgraded him.

Look into Rob Smith is Problematic. I'd vote for him over either Trump or Biden.

[Jibartik]

John Bolton 2024 lol

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZRDpC_QYG5k

[Jibartik]

holy shit fox has completely abandoned him

Holy smokes they sure did.

https://i.imgur.com/3QCxPgb.png

[Jibartik]

Reminder: Trumps supporters are taking this super graciously you guys rock!

I dont even want to throw this in your faces like I said I was looking forward to like page 20s ITT lol!

edit: WHOPS I just tripple posted sorry Baller!

[douglas1999]

Yeah I just want any possible impropriety investigated thoroughly, so there's no question that biden won fair and square. Biden should invite this, if only to shut up the trump campaign claiming some kind of fraud. If fraud occured I want to know, and if it didn't occur I want to know. I don't think that it did, because republicans seem to have retained the senate and gained house seats. I'll happily accept that Biden won fairly cause I like my country and I believe in the systems we use, I only hope that democrats won't try to change them given an opportunity.

And again if the dems had fielded a better candidate I probably would have voted for them over trump anyway. I'd take a president Tulsi, she's a robo babe.

[Mblake81]

Reminder: Trumps supporters are taking this super graciously you guys rock!

I dont even want to throw this in your faces like I said I was looking forward to like page 20s ITT lol!

edit: WHOPS I just tripple posted sorry Baller!

It would be a different story but the board piece was played to forward shade on fighting over it. Fair is fair.

Note: It was played the same time as the talking point about Republicans always giving up and letting the other team win.

[peterpal]

Remember when I ranted that I kept getting Trump money begging emails? He's back and this time it's to save the election (https://i.imgur.com/UczVAUu.jpg)! With the fine print (https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EmK5e0YVgAA4SwE.png) that 50% goes to retire his general election debt LOL

[Jibartik]

It would be a different story but the board piece was played to forward shade on fighting over it. Fair is fair.

Yea there was a well timed "lets see if the left throws it in our faces like those awful people they are" and I was like, well shit.

[douglas1999]

Assuming biden does win which I think he will, I'm curious to see what trump does for the remaining 2.5 months

[azeth]

Does space force exist after Biden oaths

[magnetaress]

Does space force exist after Biden oaths

Why not?

[Morton Jr]

We need it to jam other countries communications and kill their satellites

[douglas1999]

Hahahah, AOC apparently wants to make a literal list of anyone who supported trump or donated to him in 2016 or 2020. Gee, there's absolutely nothing creepy about that at all. Nothing nazi like, or soviet like, or north korea like at all about such a proposition. No parallells at all.

[Jibartik]

I can’t wait for the fist false flag op

[Kich867]

Philly counting center being evacuated after trumpers start making bomb threats, ugh.

[Jibartik]

Jinx lol that was fast

[Jibartik]

Every day of the next 4 years! https://twitter.com/ambiej/status/1324774388605063169

:p

[douglas1999]

Philly counting center being evacuated after trumpers start making bomb threats, ugh.

That's pretty fucked up if true.

[Woke Locc]

https://i.imgur.com/wqLsvTa.jpeg

[Jibartik]

hahaha more plz

edit: Filler while we wait for america to return to collapsing :p https://youtu.be/rSAlLGwNhu4

[White_knight]

https://i.imgur.com/wqLsvTa.jpeg

ROFL good meme

[Blingy]

Assuming biden does win which I think he will, I'm curious to see what trump does for the remaining 2.5 months

Steal the white house silverware?

/duck

[douglas1999]

hahaha more plz

edit: Filler while we wait for america to return to collapsing :p https://youtu.be/rSAlLGwNhu4

People recording everything with their phones is really getting obnoxious. Like, they aren't journalists, they take a 30 minute video of something, make a 7 second context-free cut of it and put it on social media for madddd likes n shares. Righties do it too, but I'd say less. BLM people were horrible about this. Attack cop, cop retaliates, upload 7 second video that begins when cop retaliates and say they are beating peaceful protesters. And 90% of people who see it will believe it.

[Kich867]

People recording everything with their phones is really getting obnoxious. Like, they aren't journalists, they take a 30 minute video of something, make a 7 second context-free cut of it and put it on social media for madddd likes n shares. Righties do it too, but I'd say less. BLM people were horrible about this. Attack cop, cop retaliates, upload 7 second video that begins when cop retaliates and say they are beating peaceful protesters. And 90% of people who see it will believe it.

Social media, unequivocally, will be the primary downfall of mankind.

[White_knight]

Social media IS the new slavery.

I quit Facebook 10 years ago, nothing in my life changed apart from not knowing who the fuckbois and fuckgurls were fucking.

[douglas1999]

I got PROOF that the cops are hunting us down, also check out my soundcloud and instagram @lilpoopoo69

[Gustoo]

Social media IS the new slavery.

I quit Facebook 10 years ago, nothing in my life changed apart from not knowing who the fuckbois and fuckgurls were fucking.

Man I didn't really know that fuckboi's actually got to fuck people and that there were fuckgurls too. I have a lot more respect for them now.

[White_knight]

Hahahah, AOC apparently wants to make a literal list of anyone who supported trump or donated to him in 2016 or 2020. Gee, there's absolutely nothing creepy about that at all. Nothing nazi like, or soviet like, or north korea like at all about such a proposition. No parallells at all.

Crazy lefties that populate the Dems party.

[White_knight]

I think all this election really proves is that the electoral system sucks - it's 2020, how come there isn't a uniform ID based system yet?

Here in Aus you show up with your Drivers Licence, and you get ticked off a list before voting...that list is then run thru a computer that will count it against other ballot locations and if you have voted 2x or more times your vote is invalid.

Key part there is photo, and licence id #.

Hmmkay maybe the yee old straw poll system America is using needs an upgrade.

[Gustoo]

After the civil war, the union massively expanded federal power over the states, however we do still have a relatively in tact federal system that does create some challenges consolidating data. This is good for the flexibility of our systems and network in that it means there are many redundancies. It is bad for other things. The states themselves are responsible for managing their elections. The fact that the states control their own elections does a lot to prevent a demagogue like Donald Trump have undue influence over the election. If the voting system were consolidated at the federal level in the way you suggest, the system would be more susceptible to fraud. There is very little voter fraud in the united states, and the system is quite robust. When the president himself invents and then supports his own conspiracy theories it makes non existent problems that should be easy to solve look like they exist and should be solved.

The system works fine. The only difference is that there are more mail in votes than normal because of coronavirus, which is the only thing that makes counting different and slower than normal. Plus all the lawsuits.



Besides everything, the most harmful thing that ol' trump does is degrade the strength of the institutions of the USA for his own short term political gains. He has truly degraded the nation in this way.

[Jibartik]

I just watched a documentary on the illuminati and now im convinced its all their doing.

[Topgunben]

I think all this election really proves is that the electoral system sucks - it's 2020, how come there isn't a uniform ID based system yet?

Here in Aus you show up with your Drivers Licence, and you get ticked off a list before voting...that list is then run thru a computer that will count it against other ballot locations and if you have voted 2x or more times your vote is invalid.

Key part there is photo, and licence id #.

Hmmkay maybe the yee old straw poll system America is using needs an upgrade.

The individual states need to have weighted rights. That’s why the electoral college exists. I am in favor of keeping it.

[Jibartik]

Sorry let me introduce you to the new United State of America.

https://i.imgur.com/qHiguww.png

[Zuranthium]

You're just conflating every historical example of bad behavior on the part of conservatives as if it's still widely representative today

It is still widely representative today, open your eyes. Who are the people saying Mexicans or whatever other non-white ethnicity are ruining America? Who are the people doing mass shootings targeted at these groups? Who are the ones saying cops and society has a whole has no prejudice and these minorities are simply whining (there's so much of that trash in this thread alone)? Who are the people that still say "gays are going to hell"? Who are the ones that can't fucking understand the difference between communism and socialism? Who are the ones that don't understand their own ingrained misogyny and cave-man like ideas of "how men should act"?

This is a big part of my problem with what the left has become in the last 15 years, this self congratulatory assumption that they are the "good guys", and they have some kind of monopoly on what constitutes "justice". Taking money from rich people who haven't done anything wrong to aquire it, for example, is not "just" in many people's minds. Many on the modern left confuse hating the rich for caring about the poor.

Rich people have done something "wrong" to get that wealth. Money is a social fabrication and the only way for someone to be that wealthy (aside from a couple very rare scenarios) is for a massive amount of other people to contribute to creating the product they are selling. In pretty much all cases, the amount paid towards labor and materials is lower than it really should be, and the amount of work being done by the person at the top is extremely disproportionate compared to what they are earning. Furthermore, once you have a large amount of money/success, you're able to use it to manipulate the system itself: being able pay for lobbying/publicity to warp public awareness in your favor, forcing other competition out, getting things for free.

And that's really just the most honest outcome of extreme wealth acquisition. More often than not, these entities are outright exploiting people in order to create their wealth. Whether it's lying about the effectiveness of their product, or lying about the competition, or hiding harmful side effects, or using planned/perceived obsolescence to force people to buy more, or cheating on contracts, or 3rd world labor/supply, or fucking Monsanto-like practices of forcing your shit on someone else's space and then saying you have a right to own them.

That doesn't even get into the environmental destruction created by the chase for money, and how humanity itself is catering to the lowest common denominator by blindly following unchecked capitalism. If a company can push out a ton of a shitty product and force everyone to buy it because there is no better available alternative, they will make a bunch of money for doing do so, but they are not actually contributing something good (or something better) to the world. They are simply using this fabricated thing called money to dominate a market and undeservedly empower themselves to stay at the top.

Then there's also the problem of generational wealth. Hundreds of years ago, for example, certain individuals were simply given huge amounts of land in our country. Their descendants have been born into massive wealth without having to do anything. Why do such people deserve to live in extreme comfort and privilege, while millions of others suffer? They don't deserve to, is the answer, and it's something that needs to be balanced in society.

No individual "needs" to have 100 million dollars either. If someone is making that much money, why can't they be content with just taking in 10 million instead (the rest going to taxes that are used to unselfishly be put towards the betterment of humanity)? Someone at that amount of wealth is still going to have a crazy amount more than just about everyone else. There's no reason they need to be sitting on endless piles of money. Humans are inherently selfish beings and as a society it should be our goal to curb that selfishness, by directly instituting practices/laws that fight against it. The same as penalties for drunk driving or whatever else. Destructive practices need to be addressed and fixed, in whatever form they come in. Wealth is a toxic fabrication/obsession of humans. We desire endless expansion but such a thing is impossible, certainly on one little planet.

[bubur]

yeh maybe ill read that

wondering what's the over under on my manastone bet rite now? any1 man enough to step up now that's been 3 days lol

[Woke Locc]

Sorry let me introduce you to the new United State of America.

https://i.imgur.com/qHiguww.png

Draw the npc face on it and I'll give you 1 updoot

[BiG SiP]

never make that joke again

[White_knight]

The Dem's done stealing this election? Or no annoucement yet?

[bubur]

I’m not sure but I’m warming up to the idea of 4 years of ol joey gaffes and stolen election memes, could b p funny

[White_knight]

I’m not sure but I’m warming up to the idea of 4 years of ol joey gaffes and stolen election memes, could b p funny

Yeah some good ones floating around right now ahaha

[Woke Locc]

never make that joke again

Don't be bossy

[Topgunben]

It is still widely representative today, open your eyes. Who are the people saying Mexicans or whatever other non-white ethnicity are ruining America? Who are the people doing mass shootings targeted at these groups? Who are the ones saying cops and society has a whole has no prejudice and these minorities are simply whining (there's so much of that trash in this thread alone)? Who are the people that still say "gays are going to hell"? Who are the ones that can't fucking understand the difference between communism and socialism? Who are the ones that don't understand their own ingrained misogyny and cave-man like ideas of "how men should act"?



Rich people have done something "wrong" to get that wealth. Money is a social fabrication and the only way for someone to be that wealthy (aside from a couple very rare scenarios) is for a massive amount of other people to contribute to creating the product they are selling. In pretty much all cases, the amount paid towards labor and materials is lower than it really should be, and the amount of work being done by the person at the top is extremely disproportionate compared to what they are earning. Furthermore, once you have a large amount of money/success, you're able to use it to manipulate the system itself: being able pay for lobbying/publicity to warp public awareness in your favor, forcing other competition out, getting things for free.

And that's really just the most honest outcome of extreme wealth acquisition. More often than not, these entities are outright exploiting people in order to create their wealth. Whether it's lying about the effectiveness of their product, or lying about the competition, or hiding harmful side effects, or using planned/perceived obsolescence to force people to buy more, or cheating on contracts, or 3rd world labor/supply, or fucking Monsanto-like practices of forcing your shit on someone else's space and then saying you have a right to own them.

That doesn't even get into the environmental destruction created by the chase for money, and how humanity itself is catering to the lowest common denominator by blindly following unchecked capitalism. If a company can push out a ton of a shitty product and force everyone to buy it because there is no better available alternative, they will make a bunch of money for doing do so, but they are not actually contributing something good (or something better) to the world. They are simply using this fabricated thing called money to dominate a market and undeservedly empower themselves to stay at the top.

Then there's also the problem of generational wealth. Hundreds of years ago, for example, certain individuals were simply given huge amounts of land in our country. Their descendants have been born into massive wealth without having to do anything. Why do such people deserve to live in extreme comfort and privilege, while millions of others suffer? They don't deserve to, is the answer, and it's something that needs to be balanced in society.

No individual "needs" to have 100 million dollars either. If someone is making that much money, why can't they be content with just taking in 10 million instead (the rest going to taxes that are used to unselfishly be put towards the betterment of humanity)? Someone at that amount of wealth is still going to have a crazy amount more than just about everyone else. There's no reason they need to be sitting on endless piles of money. Humans are inherently selfish beings and as a society it should be our goal to curb that selfishness, by directly instituting practices/laws that fight against it. The same as penalties for drunk driving or whatever else. Destructive practices need to be addressed and fixed, in whatever form they come in. Wealth is a toxic fabrication/obsession of humans. We desire endless expansion but such a thing is impossible, certainly on one little planet.

Will you please give me a joint share of your EQ wealth? I don’t put much time into making my own pp and developing my characters, but it sure would be nice to have a fungi and cloak of flames.

[Lune]

Really cherishing all these Republican tears

[peterpal]

https://twitter.com/Manny_Alicandro/status/1324873177416273921
If they only knew the lyrics to the song

[Jibartik]

I didnt quote zuranthiums post and now its gone!

For the sake of argument Id like to offer a contrary opinion on inheritance.

Say there are 2 families, both have kids.

One family decides to spend all their money on vacations, and fancy homes and healthy foods. They watch movies and buy toys for their kids and have a wonderful family unit!

The other family is super strict, and saves all their money, they invest with it, and buy discount everything, their lives are super dry in comparison.

The parents of both children over time pass away.

The kids that had the great childhood see the other kids that have a great adult life because of all the saving and investing their parents did, and are like, "YOOOOO how come you have 2 properties?! I want one, that aint fair! They just GAVE that to you! You didn't earn it"

Idk, think about it. Both families had the same opportunities, they just chose "how to spend their time" and one chose to sacrifice joy now, for security in the future.

You yourself said money is a social fabrication. I agree. Time is the real currency, and it can only be spent or saved to be passed on to your children in the form of currency.

Which means I think it's not fair to say that other's owe you theirs.

[Topgunben]

Id like to offer a contrary opinion. For the sake of argument.

Say there are 2 families, both have 1 kid.

One family decides to spend all their money on vacations, and fancy homes and healthy foods. They watch movies and buy toys for their kids and have a wonderful family unit!

The other family is super strict, and saves all their money, they invest with it, and buy discount everything, their lives are super dry in comparison.

The parents of both children over time pass away.

The kids that had the great childhood see the other kids that have a great adult life and are like, "YOOOOO how come you have 2 properties?! I want one, that aint fair!"

Idk, think about it. Both families had the same opportunities, they just chose "where to spend their time".

You yourself said money is a social fabrication. I agree. Time is the only currency, and it can only be spent.

I don’t know how Kamala could argue against this reasoning. Actually, she will bring up her skin color and tell you that you’re racist. The end, you lost.

[bubur]

what do you call it when ur bitch aunt takes ur grannie to the courthouse and writes your whole family out of the will

it's called reality homie and it's fuzzy and doesn't care about your idealistic views

can u just leave other people out of your garbo ideas

[Topgunben]

what do you call it when ur bitch aunt takes ur grannie to the courthouse and writes your whole family out of the will

it's called reality homie and it's fuzzy and doesn't care about your idealistic views

can u just leave other people out of your garbo ideas

Did that happen to you lol? I need the full story plz.

[bubur]

no deets from me, people of all sizes and shapes cheat that is all

bringin it back home to the most learned r99 wisdom: dirty whistles press the most buttons

[Jibartik]

Ive also tried to start my own company, It failed. I can admit it.

After that I changed my tune about "we all are a part of this company and deserve ownership too!"

Now I am like:

https://i.imgur.com/Iayk1Xr.png

After taking my life savings, putting it all on the line, the sleepless nights, the insane stress, the huge losses.. 1) I realized being "the boss" is not for me. and 2) I realized that the guy investing in the "pencil factory", really does put up more, than the guy who gets a paycheck at the pencil factory.

And so, yeah, fiscally I can see a lot of meat in the Anne Rand outlook on business.

But that said I think socialism that trends towards star trek TNG is the ideal way and there are never any republican leaders that would ever appear in any of those episodes as anything but klingons or romulans :p

bringin it back home to the most learned r99 wisdom: dirty whistles press the most buttons

Wisdom.

what do you call it when ur bitch aunt takes ur grannie to the courthouse and writes your whole family out of the will

it's called reality homie and it's fuzzy and doesn't care about your idealistic views

can u just leave other people out of your garbo ideas

Although if you're trying to counter argue my point here, you're just describing a third family, one that screwed itself over... why should the second family recoop both families losses now? I don't think that changes anything. It just informs you that you need to have a strong family unit, if you're trying to pass your investment to your family unit! That means, you gotta spend that TIME wisely! too much investment, you get trump too little you get kids at CHOP. You want right inbetween.

It just re-enforces the concept that time is the only currency that really matters so dont invest too much that you realize you never got you enjoy it and that might eventually cause your shitty life lessons imparted on your kids/sister will cause them to lose it! :)

[bubur]

jib u kno me better im not talking to anyone and am barely following the conversation

[Jibartik]

jib u kno me better im not talking to anyone and am barely following the conversation

lmao yea I was surprised which is why I wanted to clarify but I do like how it added some extra dimensions to my thought experiment :p

[bubur]

BUTTT since you read it and took it seriously

my opinion is usually small gov. i am not sure if that's left or right anymore but i guess that doesn't actually matter

not that we were specifically talking about governance but i get that sense when people are talking about "the way things should be" or "imagine if this, here's what's right" - what I read is "the way we should write and enforce laws"

and i dont think those should be written in a vacuum because real life is filled with edge cases

this election is an edge case, its unique in many ways; our community is an edge case, luckily we got some sort of approval from the copyright holders

ya namean? it's sort of a non-answer to a non-question but dear livejournal

[Jibartik]

BUTTT since you read it and took it seriously

my opinion is usually small gov. i am not sure if that's left or right anymore but i guess that doesn't actually matter

not that we were specifically talking about governance but i get that sense when people are talking about "the way things should be" or "imagine if this, here's what's right" - what I read is "the way we should write and enforce laws"

and i dont think those should be written in a vacuum because real life is filled with edge cases

this election is an edge case, its unique in many ways; our community is an edge case, luckily we got some sort of approval from the copyright holders

ya namean? it's sort of a non-answer to a non-question but dear livejournal

I knawmen and agree.

[Kich867]

The individual states need to have weighted rights. That’s why the electoral college exists. I am in favor of keeping it.

Why?

[Topgunben]

Why?

If they don’t, states with higher populations can just boss them around. Our forefathers foresaw this and for this reason (among others) we have the electoral college.

[Danth]

Why?

Helps prevent tyranny by the majority and ensures the government has to pay at least *some* attention to more than just the coastal megalopolis cities.

[Jibartik]

Because technically the fed shouldnt be making a lot of laws that affedc the lives of people in each state, maybe?

Meaning a lot of environmental law, some states see as totally dumb for their state, and counter productive for their particular climate/region, and many times they are right. This makes them vote against immigration law because there are 2 parties.

Same for the evangelicals.

Basically the problem is, we have a fed that is too powerful for a country, that is too diverse. Maybe?

Im just a dude.

[HalflingSpergand]

Abolish the fed

[Danth]

Because technically the fed shouldnt be making a lot of laws that affedc the lives of people in each state, maybe?

Meaning a lot of environmental law, some states see as totally dumb for their state, and counter productive for their particular climate/region, and many times they are right. This makes them vote against immigration law because there are 2 parties.

Same for the evangelicals.

Basically the problem is, we have a fed that is too powerful for a country, that is too diverse. Maybe?

Im just a dude.

Argument goes both ways. A strong federal government is a double-edged sword. It's kind of beneficial to have when "Libertarian State A" decides to start dumping unprocessed nuclear waste into the river that flows right into "civilized State B." A federal government can also bring a lot more power to bear than any individual state against large multinational corporations and other entities that can and do engage in their own oppression. It's not a simple issue by any means, with probably no perfect solution. A government beholden to the people is a good start. There's too much money in it now for Joe America to have much voice anymore. Corporations-as-people and which have no responsibility to the nation was an abomination of a concept--and that ruling was made a LONG time ago. Today's problems did not crop up overnight.

Same for political parties. Washington warned about those, and he was right. Jefferson was probably right too, and governments have a finite lifespan before they must be renewed. Ours is I think getting past its buy-by date.

Danth

[Danth]

...for a country, that is too diverse. Maybe?

This is its own separate problem, warranting a separate response. Having what amounts to multiple nations within a single country seldom works out over a long term. That very problem has broken up more countries throughout history than probably any other cause other than foreign invasion. America as a melting pot was a sound concept. America as a salad bowl results in the slow balkanization we're witnessing as the decades creep by. I'm not sure the process can be halted at this point. Humans are not mentally designed to want to co-exist with people whom they despise. 50 states are far too many, but you could probably break the country into at least a few smaller (but still large in their own right) entities and they'd all be happier for it. Unfortunately that's a simple thing to say on a message board, but actually trying to do it in practice would be a very messy proposition so for the time being it cannot be considered practical.

Danth

[Jibartik]

Yeah idk which one really works best as I am just a dude lol I do see the argumetns to both sides.

Anecdotal: I was curious in 2016 so I looked it up, the happiness of the average person from Gov Pence's state was the lowest of any country in America.

But happiness indexes are just some fake thing the devil created to spread his evil mission :p

As for parties: I spit in their direction as if they were a rabid dog. They are corporations. Nothing more. We let 2 corporations that dont even build anything, rule us all. I hate it.

[Fame]

Seeing more bargaining than anger or denial now. Progress.

[bubur]

Seeing more bargaining than anger or denial now. Progress.

projecting old shark man

dem watermarks homie. this shaint over till its over

dont get me wrong, i'd love an obviously corrupt good ol boy in the clubhouse again. it'll be just like old times. and maybe ill get to telework forever

[magnetaress]

Because technically the fed shouldnt be making a lot of laws that affedc the lives of people in each state, maybe?

Meaning a lot of environmental law, some states see as totally dumb for their state, and counter productive for their particular climate/region, and many times they are right. This makes them vote against immigration law because there are 2 parties.

Same for the evangelicals.

Basically the problem is, we have a fed that is too powerful for a country, that is too diverse. Maybe?

Im just a dude.

This over 9000% a lot of angry super pacs and environmentalist brigades won't grok this.

The problems this creates are also twofold in that individual people will not hold their local politicians and local businesses accountable instead will rely on "some one else to do it" and the pollution will become outsourced further to places like china or that other place no one gives a shit about like Flynt

See, I'm not really a racist. I do care. I just don't care the way that most people want me to care, which is the way they have been programmed to care and I want to deprogram, reprogram.

I may not be able to write Javascript like GPT3 but I can certainly sperg out like none b3fore, also this is me rambling not about you Jib

For the sake of argument Id like to offer a contrary opinion on inheritance.

Say there are 2 families, both have kids.

One family decides to spend all their money on vacations, and fancy homes and healthy foods. They watch movies and buy toys for their kids and have a wonderful family unit!

The other family is super strict, and saves all their money, they invest with it, and buy discount everything, their lives are super dry in comparison.

The parents of both children over time pass away.

The kids that had the great childhood see the other kids that have a great adult life because of all the saving and investing their parents did, and are like, "YOOOOO how come you have 2 properties?! I want one, that aint fair! They just GAVE that to you! You didn't earn it"

Idk, think about it. Both families had the same opportunities, they just chose "how to spend their time" and one chose to sacrifice joy now, for security in the future.

You yourself said money is a social fabrication. I agree. Time is the real currency, and it can only be spent or saved to be passed on to your children in the form of currency.

Which means I think it's not fair to say that other's owe you theirs.

The system is holding children accountable for their parents actions, no one deserves two properties, but if people have two properties they shouldn't be stolen away, the children who had dumb parents should have an opportunity to start this cycle for themselves and not be punished because they don't have two properties -- enable children who are smarter than their parents to kill their parents and sieze their parents assets, get back to me.

What we are FUCKING GOD DAMN DOING IS PUNISHING PEOPLE FOR GENERATIONS OF IDIOCY WITHOUT GIVING THEM ANY MEANS TO CHANGE THEIR OWN CIRCUMSTANCES AND SAYING UUUDUMMMBB U DUMMMB

Rather than killing off these failed GATTACAs and giving them some peace in a merciful way we perpetuate the system so we can then have 1000 properties. Or more. And now we have a virtual form of slavery where there are untouchables walking among us who are nearly immortal and need to get checked by some people in walmart gear (pvp reference)

poeople then resort to violence and lawlessness and tearing at the system and become decensitized to such things then desire only the blood of those who aren't in fucking purgatory.

alll mostly because a subset of our population cannot get their hands dirty with hard labor or real productivity.

----- I'm familiar with getting shit on then immediatly joining the military to escape, wanting to kill virtually every moving animate thing infront of me, and surviving, that kinda colors my worldview, but it's real nature baked it into us and if we force people to that place it will destroy us. All.

Most people don't have the genetic or mental ability to succesfully navigate this hell. We were designed innitially for tribal communal behavior, were individuals didn't hold nearly the same power as we can now. But that primal fear instinct I'm talking about is baked into us, that reptilian. Is there waiting to be hatched from its egg in the deep resessces of our bodies and it will drive our spirits insane. I think certain subsets of people are way more disposed to this. Based on lived experience and the amount of antipsychotics I use to stay out of prison. or not self harm

my best advice to people feeling outrage from reading this - take them pills and stop worrying about the people with 2 or 1000 properties it will fucking destroy you, you can't even imagine the people who start numbering in the hundres of thousands or millions or billions or trillions. You won't be able to until you start approaching that threshold, if thats what you want

find something uplifting and uplift yourself even if it's just carving little chunks of wood into sawdust (or whatever) if thats all you can do, get into it and learn to feel through your body and let your numbed mind rest, let yourself float in the ocean and just let the waves wash over you... lay out all night and watch the stars on drugs whatever. pour a bath of freezing water and try not to die from hypothermia.. whatever.

its not all bad.

project1999 is enabled by this system, and xbox's are ubiquitus, and there's nothing stopping us from fasting and walking for health.

and we are reaching a point where the rich can and will solve this problem, they might kill us all tho ) probably not allll of us

no one likes seeing streets lined with the dead bumbs of plague victims it's unnatrractive, once it gets to that point society can adapt, relying on the rich to solve the problem(s) is spiritually corrupt and harmful to our selves however. So is attacking them simply for being rich. If you're going to go after someone go after their character and actions. Or try to not go after people and just learn to accept them for who and what they are and communicate in a tolerant way that will make sense, if not well. You will look like this post.

If you have the opportunity to talk to people much higher up the rung then you, if you get pissy they are likely to shut you down in defense of themselves. As nature intends. Cherish that opportunity, even if it is just to learn from observation.

[imperiouskitten]

*tokes puff* im vibin this

[cd288]

Yeah I just want any possible impropriety investigated thoroughly, so there's no question that biden won fair and square. Biden should invite this, if only to shut up the trump campaign claiming some kind of fraud. If fraud occured I want to know, and if it didn't occur I want to know. I don't think that it did, because republicans seem to have retained the senate and gained house seats. I'll happily accept that Biden won fairly cause I like my country and I believe in the systems we use, I only hope that democrats won't try to change them given an opportunity.

And again if the dems had fielded a better candidate I probably would have voted for them over trump anyway. I'd take a president Tulsi, she's a robo babe.

I get what you’re saying but there’s no real need to “invite” it. If there was actual a evidence of fraud or impropriety they would be suing the hell out of whatever state based on it and the GOP would be funding a legit legal team. The fact that they are not doing this (contrast with Bush v Gore for example when they funded a Bush legal team with 3 people who are now on SCOTUS) should speak volumes about how totally baseless these made up fraud claims are.

Total shocker...the guy who said it would be fraudulent when he was losing in the polls months ago before any votes were even counted is now claiming fraud. What a fucking joke. Can’t wait for the Republican Party to put forth a candidate I can actually vote for in 2024.

[White_knight]

Can we just swear the old geriatric in already so all the people who voted for him will realise that he's just more of the same ol' same.

[magnetaress]

I woke up from a dream of some nerd using their vectored thrust to melt my fucking dashboard while on a drive to no where. Unintentially, probably. Basically the entire dash and electrical system started heat warp to vaporize. There's more to this dream. But it's hard to explain.

If you wonderin why I am jammin my keyboard at 3:15 am.

[Viscere]

Drumpf has lost

Do you think they will escort him outta the white house ?

[Jibartik]

I watched 3 Illuminati movies tonight

[Mota]

Abolish the fed

And use what, gold coins? Let congress do monetary policy? Fucken lol.

[HalflingSpergand]

Meant federal government but while we are abolishing let's do the federal reserve too. Gold coins, chickens, cows, guns, hard work stuff like that is fine

[Mota]

Helps prevent tyranny by the majority and ensures the government has to pay at least *some* attention to more than just the coastal megalopolis cities.

AKA democracy. It's not perfect but it's pros outweigh the cons. Tyranny of majority is a pretty lame argument for the EC usefulness when a con of the EC is legitimized minority rule.

Instead of paying attention to the majority of voters, they pay attention to swing states, and the ever important Iowa primary. Whoopty fucken doo? Why are ever shifting swing states and Iowa the place to be? Why do they get so much weight in deciding elections while states with tens of millions of people, like Cali or Texas, are basically ignored.

EC is a relic of a former era. Over half of states nullify faithless elector votes, castrating the EC's original intent and power. When a majority of states have already decided not to let the EC circumvent votes, why does it exist? Just kill it already.

[FatherSioux]

Trump died for our sins. His legacy will endure. Jesus 2.0

[BiG SiP]

:p

[feniin]

Trump died for our sins. His legacy will endure. Jesus 2.0

https://www.benjaminlcorey.com/could-american-evangelicals-spot-the-antichrist-heres-the-biblical-predictions/

[magnetaress]

OMg if ~they~ turn the exgay therapy techniques on fundimentalists and anarchists that would be epicly sad and lulzy.

[Tongpow]

And use what, gold coins?
at least its sound money!
ron paul 2020!

[douglas1999]

:p

The left can't meme

[Woke Locc]

Pennsylvania woke the Sleeper

[cd288]

BIDEN BABY

[Fame]

https://i.imgur.com/ir30hAS.jpg

Put down the keyboards, gentlemen.