This is retarded

[Bruno]

Originally Posted by Ikonoclastia [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Relax. I put in the bug reports so if they want to fix it then they will, if they don't then they don't. No skin off my nose.

Still walls of text doe.

[Ikonoclastia]

Originally Posted by Lictor [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I don't see how a valid discussion on mechanics is in RnF

I assumed it would get lots of hateful posts from chea... um powerlevelers and so preempted the move but was rather disappointed tbh.

[Vyal]

It wasn't impossible to do...
Not only did we use to AoE Dok on live but CoM, Seb, and Guk.

And I have personally done it in all those zones plus skyfire, burning woods, droga, fear, hate, solb and sola on this server and probably more zones if I thought about it longer.

Some of the mechanics and pathing is actually incorrect here but it's more to the benefit of the players so ya they did a really great job at keeping things classic here but at the same time either intentionally or unintentionally limiting the number of zones people can effectively aoe.

[Ikonoclastia]

Originally Posted by Vyal [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

It wasn't impossible to do...
Not only did we use to AoE Dok on live but CoM, Seb, and Guk.

And I have personally done it in all those zones plus skyfire, burning woods, droga, fear, hate, solb and sola on this server and probably more zones if I thought about it longer.

Some of the mechanics and pathing is actually incorrect here but it's more to the benefit of the players so ya they did a really great job at keeping things classic here but at the same time either intentionally or unintentionally limiting the number of zones people can effectively aoe.

Proof? I recall, I remember, etc etc means nothing. I have provided a shit ton of proof it was not possible to aoe the way Chardok is being aoe'd.

I have found no evidence, no posts, no video's, not anything of classic AoE of 100 to 180+ mobs in Chardok and lots of evidence to show it was not possible.

If people were able to do it it would have been posted (and nerfed soon after) but it was never posted and there is no evidence.

Normal AoE sure. The majority of mobs in Chardok. Nope.

[Vyal]

Originally Posted by Ikonoclastia [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Proof? I recall, I remember, etc etc means nothing. I have provided a shit ton of proof it was not possible to aoe the way Chardok is being aoe'd.

I have found no evidence, no posts, no video's, not anything of classic AoE of 100 to 180+ mobs in Chardok and lots of evidence to show it was not possible.

If people were able to do it it would have been posted (and nerfed soon after) but it was never posted and there is no evidence.

Normal AoE sure. The majority of mobs in Chardok. Nope.

I did it and never posted videos of it, one because there was not really any software to do it and my pc couldn't handle it. We didn't pull 180 mobs... no way but thats because of connection and pc limits in those days but I know for a fact it would have been doable.

Thats the reason people didn't do it then - hardware / software / and connection...
180 mobs would have blown up my pc back then we had to keep the pulls smaller.

Your not taking into account we have been doing this for years and know exactly where every single mob spawns the exact time every mob spawns the route they take and how long it takes each mob to get to a certain point.

If you ever get a chance to check out Chardok you should stop in with your 2010ish era pc and tell me you don't drop FPS big time looking at 180 mobs getting smoked by 8 people.

[Ikonoclastia]

Originally Posted by Vyal [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I did it and never posted videos of it, one because there was not really any software to do it and my pc couldn't handle it. We didn't pull 180 mobs... no way but thats because of connection and pc limits in those days but I know for a fact it would have been doable.

Thats the reason people didn't do it then - hardware / software / and connection...
180 mobs would have blown up my pc back then we had to keep the pulls smaller.

Your not taking into account we have been doing this for years and know exactly where every single mob spawns the exact time every mob spawns the route they take and how long it takes each mob to get to a certain point.

If you ever get a chance to check out Chardok you should stop in with your 2010ish era pc and tell me you don't drop FPS big time looking at 180 mobs getting smoked by 8 people.

No you didn't do it because as I have already proven Chardok had lazy aggro, which would have meant your puller had to stay in close proximity to every mob pulled, even 50 mobs would have been enough to do 5000+ damage every tick melee, 100 mobs 10,000+ and 180 close to 20,000 damage. Not to mention being rooted, blinded, dotted, nuked and stunned.

I'll also point out that in the 10+ years since Kunark there is not a single instance of anyone describing in text or video doing this on live but in the last 6 months there's a good 100+ posts on it from P1999.

Either the best kept secret in EQ history or didn't happen.

[Vyal]

Originally Posted by Ikonoclastia [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

No you didn't do it because as I have already proven Chardok had lazy aggro, which would have meant your puller had to stay in close proximity to every mob pulled, even 50 mobs would have been enough to do 5000+ damage every tick melee, 100 mobs 10,000+ and 180 close to 20,000 damage. Not to mention being rooted, blinded, dotted, nuked and stunned.

I'll also point out that in the 10+ years since Kunark there is not a single instance of anyone describing in text or video doing this on live but in the last 6 months there's a good 100+ posts on it from P1999.

Either the best kept secret in EQ history or didn't happen.

seriously no offense but you don't know what your talking about.

[Ikonoclastia]

Originally Posted by Vyal [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

seriously no offense but you don't know what your talking about.

No offense but I think I'm one of the few that does. And I have provided evidence to prove it. Your opinion and no provided evidence and the complete lack of any 3rd person in-era links to back up that opinion mean pretty much nothing.

[mtb tripper]

fender bender insurance fraudulent

[Vyal]

Originally Posted by Ikonoclastia [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

No offense but I think I'm one of the few that does. And I have provided evidence to prove it. Your opinion and no provided evidence and the complete lack of any 3rd person in-era links to back up that opinion mean pretty much nothing.

So im telling you I have done aoe pulls on live, I been doing them here for years and almost everything you claim to know about pulling and 1999 era EQ is wrong... It's not opinion its fact you have no idea wtf your talking about.

Dafuq is "Lazy Agro" anyways...

You don't even know how the mechanics of a pull work for starters so how can you even claim to know what your talking about lol.
FYI Im not going to scour the net for something I already know to be true just to satisfy some fucked up troll on elf sim.