Lose Weight

[unsunghero]

What kind of time are you aiming for in the half marathon?

So I try to "go hard" which basically means go as fast as I can paced for a particular distance maybe once a week to once every other week. And for the most part it pretty much sucks. It's fun to go balling past the soccer games and people walking their dogs, but that's about where the fun ends. The rest is slight suffocation, pain, and what really scares me is sometimes a lurch in my chest

As someone who's had both covid and the vaxx, I worry about people keeling over these days. And if I'm ever going to die running, it would probably going the furthest distance I go as hard as I can. In the past, I've had borderline medical issues at the end of the half due to going too hard, and that's before fucking around with my heart

So 7 years ago before covid and when I was 180lbs, I usually finished around 1:30, which worked out to like a 7:40ish m/mi or something. This time, I'm going to try to be still above average, probably ideally under 9:00m/mi. But effort-percent wise I'll probably be going 70-80%

[Homesteaded]

Awww

If I tried running with my cat on a leash it'd be like

It's so much fun to watch him rip around on our trails. I created a bunch of trails through the woods for my kids, now we have this dog and he treats them like a race track. Super impressive.

He hasn't caught a turkey or a deer yet but he has spooked them. Pretty hilarious to see 6 turkeys running down a trail all goofy like, as turkeys do.

[unsunghero]

It's so much fun to watch him rip around on our trails. I created a bunch of trails through the woods for my kids, now we have this dog and he treats them like a race track. Super impressive.

He hasn't caught a turkey or a deer yet but he has spooked them. Pretty hilarious to see 6 turkeys running down a trail all goofy like, as turkeys do.

That’s cool, don’t think I’ve ever seen one run IRL, they are always missing their heads and feet and skin

[unsunghero]

Mystery pill in the gym bathroom

Might be some kind of crazy steroids I never heard of yet. I’m gonna take it

[unsunghero]

^
Ooh I feel sick

[Trexller]

^
Ooh I feel sick

that's just the magical enstrengthening

[unsunghero]

How I feel doing fast runs at night to increase Vo2 max for upcoming half-m

Except instead of being in boxers I'm running in only tidy whities

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BvwzG_HjxEQ

[unsunghero]

Work 5k race is coming up Oct 8th

I got second last time. This time I should win, unless some co-worker’s track teen kid beats me again

To my co-workers:

[unsunghero]

This next generation are mostly weak and lazy….but there has never been more knowledge and support available to those that want to be above average in some physical pursuit

It’s easier than ever to stay ahead of the lazy plebs, but for the focused, things have never been more competitive

https://m.youtube.com/shorts/9CAtXqrNu40

[unsunghero]

Prepping for the work 5k tonight and Runkeeper said this was my best 5k recorded on the app

Me:

[unsunghero]

69 years old, NO supplemental oxygen, AND a chest infection, and he still scales Everest and dies right after

Sad to make his wife a widow, but that’s going out like a G

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=rD_qaegOq1w

[booter]

paid 50k+ to die like a dummy on an overcrowded mountain

[unsunghero]

paid 50k+ to die like a dummy on an overcrowded mountain

Oh yea it was a stupid decision

But to be able to make it to the top of that mountain at age 69, without any supplemental oxygen, and with a serious-sounding chest infection….probably 99% of people on earth couldn’t accomplish that physical feat at that age

And I wonder if people who see summiting as a self-actualization moment, especially at an advanced age like his, actually don’t care if they die immediately after. Or it could just be a combination of “I spent 50k on this and this is my last chance in life” + the brain being deprived of oxygen fucking with a person’s ability to reason the risk

[Lune]

paid 50k+ to die like a dummy on an overcrowded trash-filled, corpse-strewn mountain, with sherpas doing all the legwork, I'm sure

[unsunghero]

Say no more, fam. Never done one, not all that interested in starting

Saunas though, won’t give those up. Love ‘em, the hotter the better, and my current gym’s is the hottest I’ve felt

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=UvZfubdCFrM

[booter]

it's my layman's understanding that ice baths are actually beneficial for long-distance runners/endurance athletes immediately after a 1hr+ exertion. i believe there is even data out there supporting it now, though I am too lazy to dig that up

and yea, sauna's are def proven to be beneficial for just about every human, working out or not

[arvidez]

i do whatever youtube tells me to do..elevated mood guaranteed, if taken as prescribed. frozen towels were used to effect patient's mood in Linehan's biography.

also "banya day"

[arvidez]

but thats all for peace of mind...yall are talking about performance. ketogenesis looks advantageous over carb as fuel the longer the race i have heard.

[unsunghero]

it's my layman's understanding that ice baths are actually beneficial for long-distance runners/endurance athletes immediately after a 1hr+ exertion. i believe there is even data out there supporting it now, though I am too lazy to dig that up

and yea, sauna's are def proven to be beneficial for just about every human, working out or not

Interestin

Well if I can get to an ice bath after the half-m in Jan I’m down to try. But it’s your fault if I go into shock because I’m a little bitch when it comes to cold ;)

[Blingy]

it's my layman's understanding that ice baths are actually beneficial for long-distance runners/endurance athletes immediately after a 1hr+ exertion. i believe there is even data out there supporting it now, though I am too lazy to dig that up

and yea, sauna's are def proven to be beneficial for just about every human, working out or not

One of my favorite youtubers is an actual doctor. Here's his take on ice baths:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wnu9I-MjrkI

For those that don't want to click the link....ice baths are basically bunk.

[arvidez]

Interestin

Well if I can get to an ice bath after the half-m in Jan I’m down to try. But it’s your fault if I go into shock because I’m a little bitch when it comes to cold ;)

everyone starts a little bitch. you will build the fortitude to relax in the cold. i use my pool during the winter. i think about it all summer.


mental weights. the muscle you exercise, perhaps, when you are about to die on a run and realize you aren't even halfway through, and you have to decide if are gonna be a man or a mouse.

standing on a 60ft cliff, building the courage to jump. that "muscle"

facing that challenge every day. can't argue that wouldn't make you stronger.

thats on top of any physiological effects it might/might not have. cold therapy has been used in mental health practice for a long time. the problem is it is very temporary. the elated feeling.

again mental health srry...as to performance, i heard if you are lifting to gain muscle, it will retard gains.

[arvidez]

One of my favorite youtubers is an actual doctor. Here's his take on ice baths:


find a less cocksure youtuber.

[unsunghero]

But what he doesn't say here is how strength = cardio gains

To some degree it can by developing things like stability muscles. But strength usually = size....and more tissue, whether that's fat or muscle, requires more oxygen

Considering he one time placed top 10% in a marathon, but while talking about cardio and walking at about a 4mph pace was now out of breath, I wonder how much his cardio performance suffered by putting on 100+ lbs of mostly muscle but fat as well from his marathon days

Either way, more good info from Mitchell

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R2_D_lWE70c

[unsunghero]

Laid low by Depression due to postpartum hormone imbalance + body dysmorphia over your newly-destroyed stomach which doesn’t seem to be able to bounce back, especially when your body is your financial moneymaker

But Annie Thorisdottir is a Viking, it’s right there in her name: “Thor’s Daughter”. Not the type to stay down and cry

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=nH4sfb4uypM

[unsunghero]

^
Speaking of Icelandic giants, FB showed me this. The Mountain with “normal” people vs with his family:

[Swish]

Love his work. His family are huge!

[unsunghero]

Smoking cannabis, like smoking anything, is objectively unhealthy

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=XKzAXvwtdUc

[arvidez]

if you are too cheap for the volcano, i recently started vaping flower through a dynavap M plus. have to play with it to get it to behave as you wish. they use them at many herb shows/contests to grade flavor.

[unsunghero]

if you are too cheap for the volcano, i recently started vaping flower through a dynavap M plus. have to play with it to get it to behave as you wish. they use them at many herb shows/contests to grade flavor.

I’ve only used edibles for so long, I think I wouldn’t even remember how to use a bong or vape (kiddin, I could figure it out). But yea it’s been years of only edibles

Interestingly enough I did find an electronic weed vape laying on the ground on my jogging route at the park 2 days ago. Was wondering why there was a blue light on the ground. I picked it up and placed it on a visible concrete ledge in case the owner tried to retrace their steps for it

Back in the day those used to be expensive, probably cheap as hell nowadays tho

[unsunghero]

"Hobbyhorsing" is so fucking stupid!

What happens if they miss the jump, they faceplant onto the ground?? How is that a sport????

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oO6UhZSic9o

[arvidez]

IÂ’ve only used edibles for so long, I think I wouldnÂ’t even remember how to use a bong or vape (kiddin, I could figure it out). But yea itÂ’s been years of only edibles


Back in the day those used to be expensive, probably cheap as hell nowadays tho

still expensive, i think, unless you are using concentrate.

thanks for scaring me with that video then bragging about only edible. fear and shame are two of my favorites :)

[unsunghero]

still expensive, i think, unless you are using concentrate.

thanks for scaring me with that video then bragging about only edible. fear and shame are two of my favorites :)

I used to smoke out of glass pipes, bongs, then eventually vapes when I first got into weed 8+ years ago

But because of the timing getting into weed was right around when I got into fitness. It was ok at first, I started at 260lbs all fat and the weight was flying off running. I’d almost always get high on weed before working out so it all was great

But, because of daily use, I noticed I started to develop a persistent cough. I used to chalk it up to having just smoked but then I noticed it was always there, when I woke up, when I went to bed, even if I didn’t smoke that day

So I tried switching to exclusively vaping because I didn’t want my cardio performance to suffer, I was too into working out at that point. But the first gen vapes weren’t the best. I noticed I’d still be getting smoke with them or they’d straight break a month after I got them

I switched to edibles which I preferred as more economical due to the high lasting more like 4 hours rather than 1-2. That was like 6 years ago and I never went back to vape other than like maybe once a year at a wedding or outting with friends, etc

[unsunghero]

I heard motivational quotes from this guy for years without knowing he was dead or his accomplishments:

All-American and Three-time State Time Champion Wrestler
U.S Army Ranger (led 180 soldiers, this is the only one that really matters)
Professional Skydiver
Golf Club Champion
Model (Most successful male fitness model of all time, most magazine covers ever)
Actor
Serial Entrepreneur
Motivational speaker


He was run over by a train while filming a commercial in 2015. Kinda reckless, but doesn’t diminish the dude’s accomplishments

Respect on yo name, Greg

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Cz3q1R0oHmE

[Topgunben]

Anyone on TRT? How much you taking? How much does it cost? Cream or injection?
Side affects?

[unsunghero]

Anyone on TRT? How much you taking? How much does it cost? Cream or injection?
Side affects?

I can answer most of those, we don’t have to get too deep into why ;)

Dose is figured out by blood tests given by the prescribing Dr. It has about a 0% chance of being perfect off the bat. You both will try to isolate out as many other factors on not just your test but also your free test and SHBG as the periodic tests go by arrive at a blood level you feel is best for you. For most guys, they usually want to be anywhere from 600-1000+ ng/dl depending on their physical demands, with the more athletic demanding a higher level. Dose to stay at the high end of natural for most guys ends up about 100-160ish mg/week

Sub-Q into fat does less damage and creates less scar tissue than IM. Creams are shit. Anything you force inside your tissue (not vein) with a needle gets absorbed at roughly the same rate. So there’s no difference in Sub-Q vs IM absorption rate. So go with the one that is less painful, and does less damage. Especially since you are going to want to be doing at least 2x/week shots for optimal blood levels. You want a smooth blood level curve as the week goes by, not a pyramid with a valley. Big changes in blood levels = more side effects!

Cost if you go online can be as low as like $80/100/mo. You will have to go into a local lab and mail all your blood work results. Dr consults will be done remotely. If you go local, look for anti-aging clinics or just a Google search for trt clinics. It’s a booming industry

Side effects incl: thickening of the blood for some, negated by either regular blood work or blood letting. Testicular atrophy after years of dormancy, negated by using certain prescription drugs like HCG the Dr will prescribe. Also no sperm count, infertility, but not 100% reliable infertility, like a vasectomy. So you most likely can’t get anyone pregnant, but there’s still a tiny% chance, so you can’t raw dog it without any worry. If you want to get someone pregnant you have to come off or take HCG. For some left ventricle heart enlargement, slightly higher chance of prostate cancer. Dr will go over all the risks

Your current blood test results don’t matter. Say you have the symptoms and pay out of pocket and no one cares. If TRT is fucking your body up the TRT doctor will likely catch it with regular blood work, but having a cardiologist as well would be strongly recommended

[booter]

don't forget the telltale gut and boobs

[unsunghero]

don't forget the telltale gut and boobs

I haven’t heard of GH gut from test, normally that’s from growth hormone growing your organs behind your abs, pushing everything out

Man boobs you won’t tend to get at a therapeutic dose of test. Normally aromatization tends to occur at supraphysiological doses. But of course it’s case by case and for a rare hyper-responder it’s not out of the question

You should never be needing to regularly take an AI (aromatase inhibitor aka estrogen blocker) on TRT. If your doc is recommending either an AI, or if he is doing only weekly or bi-weekly (once every 2 week) shots, then the doc is about 10 years behind the science (aka old school endo’s who don’t understand TRT) and you need to find a new doc

[booter]

that's fair, i get all that stuff mixed up these days. i haven't touched any of them personally

[unsunghero]

Wow 8s/mi slower than last week

Race is in 1.5 weeks and my last race pace was like 7.18ish. Might need a bit of a miracle. Then again

“Luck is for those who think winning can happen by accident” :(

[GinnasP99]

5OXn88m4NBg

[unsunghero]

^
My fav line is: “Try harder, try again!”

[unsunghero]

Lol

[unsunghero]

Interesting facts about Heart Attack grill:

1. Owner/Founder was a former gym owner who threw his hands in the air and said “fuck it”, in regards to people’s health

2. Their first “Spokesman” died due to his weight before his commercial even aired…

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=a8MlDZ2EFqs

[arvidez]

Lol

or butter

[unsunghero]

Britney still lookin good though for her age

Wonder what she doing to keep the weight off, besides being cray

I’d hit it. I can stab you and you can stab me, Britney if you get my drift

[Lune]

She's always had a weird fuckin brow line. Now she looks Romulan. Too much plastic surgery methinks

Body lookin good though, for being like 80 in diva years

[unsunghero]

“I am Tyler Durden’s confused contradictory brain”

[magnetaress]

Britney still lookin good though for her age

Wonder what she doing to keep the weight off, besides being cray

I’d hit it. I can stab you and you can stab me, Britney if you get my drift

She is somehow channeling my inner psycho. She's probably on stims.

[Lune]

“I am Tyler Durden’s confused contradictory brain”

"I look like you wanna look, I fuck like you wanna fuck, I am smart, capable, and most importantly, I'm free in all the ways you are not". Remember, Brad Pitt-Tyler Durden is Edward Norton's fantasy and idealized conception of what masculinity is, which unravels over the course of the book/movie, as he realizes the damage it causes.

So it's actually very fitting that Brad Pitt/Tyler Durden looks just like the ad.

[unsunghero]

"I look like you wanna look, I fuck like you wanna fuck, I am smart, capable, and most importantly, I'm free in all the ways you are not". Remember, Brad Pitt-Tyler Durden is Edward Norton's fantasy and idealized conception of what masculinity is, which unravels over the course of the book/movie, as he realizes the damage it causes.

So it's actually very fitting that Brad Pitt/Tyler Durden looks just like the ad.

So when he’s asking it it’s actually Edward Norton asking, hmm. But the way he asks, with a smirk, implies he doesn’t agree that’s how a man should look. But yet he still projects it into his delusion

[unsunghero]

Sure, the millionaire scammer scumbag who was willing to bet $2 million of his own money he wins the non drug-tested fight with Dillon Dannis coming up isn’t going to take enough PED’s to almost kill a Clydesdale horse

Sure, buddy

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=OmmQCIRxpng

[unsunghero]

Driving to folk’s cabin up north and I pass a CrossFit gym with an ambulance parked in front

Now if that isn’t playing into negative stereotypes about CrossFit lol… ;)

[Swish]

Interesting facts about Heart Attack grill:

1. Owner/Founder was a former gym owner who threw his hands in the air and said “fuck it”, in regards to people’s health

2. Their first “Spokesman” died due to his weight before his commercial even aired…

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=a8MlDZ2EFqs

One day I'm going in there, gotta do it.

[unsunghero]

^
Yea I want to as well one day. I wonder if the one in AZ still there

[unsunghero]

..,

[unsunghero]

After I finished the 2 mile loop jog with this pretty scenery at folk’s cabin, I had to use the line people say in Hardcore WoW after they die:

[magnetaress]

At least u had some shade!

[magnetaress]

Driving to folk’s cabin up north and I pass a CrossFit gym with an ambulance parked in front

Now if that isn’t playing into negative stereotypes about CrossFit lol… ;)

Also. Worse ways to injure or ...die. I guess.

Guy could have had an undiagnosed aneurysm or even an internal cyst from something like a parasite that broke doing a warmup stretch tooo...

But ya he probably dropped or crushed or fell in a bad way on something vital.

[aussenseiter]

At least u had some shade!

What the hell are powerlines doing at a cabin? :confused:

[unsunghero]

I like the little battles you get into with other “race rivals”, especially the ones you notice in the last hundred or so yards

Reminds me of the 1v1 battles that pitchers and batters get into in baseball, or the Larry Bird vs Magic Johnson kinda 1v1’s that can happen in basketball games

Competition brings out the best in ourselves

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=dKd8rXDLTAQ

[strongNpretty]

I'm actually all for steroids in sports. I love seeing what humans can do at peak potential in strength, speed, and athleticism.

[booter]

got permits to dayhike Half Dome in Yosemite this weekend. finally after years of entering the lottery...

~15 miles and ~5,000' elevation gain let's goooooooo

[unsunghero]

got permits to dayhike Half Dome in Yosemite this weekend. finally after years of entering the lottery...

~15 miles and ~5,000' elevation gain let's goooooooo

Damn nice. That have bears? Coulda swore I heard about attacks there? Bring bear spray if so?

[unsunghero]

I'm actually all for steroids in sports. I love seeing what humans can do at peak potential in strength, speed, and athleticism.

I agree to some extent. I love the idea of bio hacking the human body, even if that involves chemicals

However, then most sports competitions would end up like bodybuilding which I’ve heard summarized well as: “A contest to see who can take the most drugs and not die” ;)

[Lune]

Damn nice. That have bears? Coulda swore I heard about attacks there? Bring bear spray if so?

Everywhere has bears. The Yosemite ones are particularly intrepid and used to people, but you're absurdly unlikely to be attacked and even more unlikely to be killed, it's almost not worth thinking about. I'd maybe pack bear spray for grizzly country, but honestly I'm reaching the age where if a grizzly bear wants to eat me, fuck yea, what a badass way to die, fighting bears, losing, and making the national news.

[unsunghero]

I'm reaching the age where if a grizzly bear wants to eat me, fuck yea, what a badass way to die, fighting bears, losing, and making the national news.
.
Lol

[unsunghero]

Speaking of bio hacking and human strength freaks

The last guy on this list is so far above everyone else it’s bonkers

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=onc83cVZ3SM

[unsunghero]

HTF is this bro Costa passing USADA tests, by hiding outside the USA?

Still won’t save him Oct 21st vs Khamzat, dude is gonna be wolf food

[magnetaress]

HTF is this bro Costa passing USADA tests, by hiding outside the USA?

Still won’t save him Oct 21st vs Khamzat, dude is gonna be wolf food

He looks like he's having a seizure. Hope he's OK!

[unsunghero]

He looks like he's having a seizure. Hope he's OK!

Lol he kinda does

[unsunghero]

Balls to the walls runs feel good after when you get that endorphin flood but, man, during they kinda fuckin suck, NGL

[magnetaress]

Nice. U almost got one free bigmac there (I wouldn't, just saying! )

I used to do like 6 miles at a leisurely pace and then not actually eat at all that day.

Huge fucking losses. I could easily drop like 3lb a day. (Consistently not like water weight).

[unsunghero]

Nice. U almost got one free bigmac there (I wouldn't, just saying! )

I used to do like 6 miles at a leisurely pace and then not actually eat at all that day.

Huge fucking losses. I could easily drop like 3lb a day. (Consistently not like water weight).

Musta been in ketosis or something for energy. Like superhero mode

[magnetaress]

You can actually be pretty beast during a 72 hour fast or ketosis cuz you don't have a sugar crash. Energy just stays consistent. Just straight up endless endurance as long as you are rested and have the fat to burn. And keep your electrolytes in balance. I would not personally push it beyond 24 hrs because of diminishing returns and exponential stress on the body tho. You can do like upto 400 calories a day too without breaking out of a fasting metabolism once ur body will happily switch over.

I had way less lactic acid buildup too. (It seemed) like zero soreness or need for recovery. Could have just been my training regimen tho I guess.

Intermittent fasting is absolutely fricking amazing.

Going longer than 24 hrs I wouldn't advise heavy activities of any kind just to be on the safe side.

[magnetaress]

The main problem I had tho was toning and bulking muscle. My legs and arms where very very wiry.

No idea what it all did to my heart.

[booter]

Damn nice. That have bears? Coulda swore I heard about attacks there? Bring bear spray if so?

only black bears

bear spray is for grizzlies/browns

[unsunghero]

Unrealistic body expectations galore in that series

[unsunghero]

This girl’s final message before death is pretty heartbreaking. World of Warcraft was her favorite game too, a fellow gamer

I like this guy’s vid but I don’t completely agree that wanting it more than anything is not enough. For the average person to want something more than anything is enough. For an addict it’s not. Because then we have to factor in how cravings and relapses destroy our wants. I believe no matter the drug, an addict can truly want something more than anything some times, but other times that want is overpowered by a need to cope with the drug, or by a powerful craving

If it was as simple as wanting to be sober = being sober for life, drug addiction would be a lot less prevalent. But if the average person wants to be metabolically healthy more than anything, they will be healthy, so long as they don’t have a food addiction

Either way, RIP to this girl. Very tragic, she realized too late that food isn’t worth it

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ZHwKj4vhYT8

[magnetaress]

Being over 220 lb at 5'8'' is extremely painful (dont worry i lost a bunch again)

Especially compared to how I felt and performed at 150 lb and very athletic lifestyle.

I can't even begin to imagine how horrible being 300+ lb would feel. And I'm not talking pure muscles.

A lot of people get into pain spirals. Emotional and physical. And for whatever reason convince themselves that eating that extra 3 servings of highly processed chips is fine or it even gives them temporary relief, just like a drug hit. Because their happy and not thinking about their pain when distracted.

Couple that with wow. Or weed. And it's game over. Your own brain will dump addictive chemicals into along with whatever behaviors that are strong as any street drug.

Discipline is key and spirituality is a gateway to that. Setting up your environment is key. If there are no chips in easy reach and celery sticks and yogurt only ur a step ahead. Don't keep a fridge in your room or work area. Be Disciplined like a Bhuddist monk and only eat what is absolutely necessary to survive. And only in your eating spot. And only during specific times if you can help it.

Anyways. Yeah addiction. Obesity. I wouldn't wish it on my worst enemy.

Sometimes that cope tho while it trades decades for 5 years is better than suicide, I guess.

[unsunghero]

Being over 220 lb at 5'8'' is extremely painful (dont worry i lost a bunch again)

Especially compared to how I felt and performed at 150 lb and very athletic lifestyle.

I can't even begin to imagine how horrible being 300+ lb would feel. And I'm not talking pure muscles.

A lot of people get into pain spirals. Emotional and physical. And for whatever reason convince themselves that eating that extra 3 servings of highly processed chips is fine or it even gives them temporary relief, just like a drug hit. Because their happy and not thinking about their pain when distracted.

Couple that with wow. Or weed. And it's game over. Your own brain will dump addictive chemicals into along with whatever behaviors that are strong as any street drug.

Discipline is key and spirituality is a gateway to that. Setting up your environment is key. If there are no chips in easy reach and celery sticks and yogurt only ur a step ahead. Don't keep a fridge in your room or work area. Be Disciplined like a Bhuddist monk and only eat what is absolutely necessary to survive. And only in your eating spot. And only during specific times if you can help it.

Anyways. Yeah addiction. Obesity. I wouldn't wish it on my worst enemy.

Sometimes that cope tho while it trades decades for 5 years is better than suicide, I guess.

Ya, desire is one thing, considering the most effective method is an important other. You mentioned some helpful techniques

The same concept applies to someone who wants to be rich more than anything. If they start in a minimum wage job, it doesn’t matter how hard they work, they could work 60+ hours/week and they will never become rich. They need to work smarter AND harder. Not just harder

I think for the guy in the vid to say when he was younger he wanted to be thin more than anything in the world yet couldn’t get it, I would question how he attempted to evolve his methods. Cravings and relapses can be anticipated and planned for, methods can be improved

[magnetaress]

You can replace food comfort with other comforts too. Shit cuddle up with a pillow if your desperate. Get under some blankets if you can. If its hot go sit in the shade somewhere nice and quiet with nature and listen to the birbs. If it's hot and outside the UV deathrays time get ur shorts and a bra on and go soak in them after 4pm or before 11am rays. Tons of options to get that natural mental high with some non food related distraction and better behaviors.

Get some Bibles or self help books. If you feel like shit get them on audible or CD.

Plan some kinda activities like this at regular intervals just to train urself even if you don't need it "right now".

Do it before work. After work. And Don't just come home from work. Throw the TV on and eat. Do your skills first. If you're struggling have a friend help or call you or remind u.

Even if you are grieving it's better to be miserable and skinny than miserable and sick and sometimes happy.

You can find peace and serenity outside of food.

If you got anxiety and pain do a ritual and reward yourself with camomile and lavender tea (if female) works great for anxiety.. don't put milk or cream or anything else in it... better yet don't have anything like that in the house. You don't need sugar in anything. Treat urself to that shit 1 day a week outside ur house, at least you get some exercise going to get it then. Helps with cravings.

G-d bless and g-d speed if any of ya'll r struggling 🙏

[unsunghero]

Carrying probably 5-6lbs of fat doesn’t help my run times. Stuck at probably around 12-14% bf

One could say that muscle is dead weight for a distance run. Well fat is sure as shit dead wright. Stored energy I won’t need due to not enough distance

[Duik]

OMFG ITS D TRUMPS SCALE READING!
Unsung is trump? Checks out.

Also your bows on ya laces are very even. Kudos.

[Origen]

Nah, unsunghero has a job that actually helps people. Trump has never done a day's work in his entire life.

[unsunghero]

OMFG ITS D TRUMPS SCALE READING!
Unsung is trump? Checks out.

Also your bows on ya laces are very even. Kudos.

Lol ty but don’t encourage my lace OCD ;)

[unsunghero]

Nah, unsunghero has a job that actually helps people. Trump has never done a day's work in his entire life.

Rob says a nice thing

Me, ready to argue:

[magnetaress]

naw i disagree unshung, i think its good to have some extra fat and allow ur body to burn it up every now and than, prob best or ideal to fluctuate around 2-8% above lean body mass

i had incredible endurance when i was in the army and i was a pudgy endomorphic girly dude so ya it did make STA my #1 stat, good chance to survive a severe injury too if u have healthy arteries + some extra fats to survive on

---- really the human body is so efficient that carrying an extra 10lb isn't going to sink you performance wise except in the harry edge of like 1% performance, so if ur going for absolutely insane speed or agility stats you are v correct. and i mean that from a lean body mass ultra healthy physique not the already 180 but no muscle mass side of the scale --- fat is the #1 easy on the body energy reserve 2 u could literally eat sticks of butter and run on that energy all day, tho i dont recommend for obvious silly reasons, it would be functional and it works for ppl with broken guts (good butter not butter mixed with palm oil)

less so if u just want to be an endless beast

[unsunghero]

naw i disagree unshung, i think its good to have some extra fat and allow ur body to burn it up every now and than, prob best or ideal to fluctuate around 2-8% above lean body mass

i had incredible endurance when i was in the army and i was a pudgy endomorphic girly dude so ya it did make STA my #1 stat, good chance to survive a severe injury too if u have healthy arteries + some extra fats to survive on

---- really the human body is so efficient that carrying an extra 10lb isn't going to sink you performance wise except in the harry edge of like 1% performance, so if ur going for absolutely insane speed or agility stats you are v correct. and i mean that from a lean body mass ultra healthy physique not the already 180 but no muscle mass side of the scale --- fat is the #1 easy on the body energy reserve 2 u could literally eat sticks of butter and run on that energy all day, tho i dont recommend for obvious silly reasons, it would be functional and it works for ppl with broken guts (good butter not butter mixed with palm oil)

less so if u just want to be an endless beast

Kk I believe it

[magnetaress]

it's fun to chase the needle tho :p

[unsunghero]

When it’s game time, I rise ;)

I now know why the big races don’t have you doubling back. Because laps 2 and 3 of the work 5k were non-stop obstacles of slower people I was lapping. Felt like a football player having to dodge, duck, dip, dive, and dodge. Some 5yr old oblivious girl ran right out in front of me as I was passing her family, and I thought how awesome it would be to vault right over her, but I couldn’t spare the energy

[magnetaress]

NICE

[aussenseiter]

When it’s game time, I rise ;)

I now know why the big races don’t have you doubling back. Because laps 2 and 3 of the work 5k were non-stop obstacles of slower people I was lapping. Felt like a football player having to dodge, duck, dip, dive, and dodge. Some 5yr old oblivious girl ran right out in front of me as I was passing her family, and I thought how awesome it would be to vault right over her, but I couldn’t spare the energy

https://www.project1999.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=23383&d=1696796055

https://www.project1999.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=23384&d=1696796148


Nice job but you shouldn't dress like Antifa for a race. Shit's hot. 🥵

[unsunghero]

Nice job but you shouldn't dress like Antifa for a race. Shit's hot. ��

It’s a slimming color. But yea it was fuckin hot

I’ve wanted to do a physique update for a while (really, any positive changes are minute and very hard fought nowadays) but can’t seem to strip off this last 5ish lbs

It is funny how RL mirrors RPG’s. The more progress you make, the more tiny and incremental progress becomes. Is true for both muscle gain and fat loss. The hardest lbs to lose, physiologically, are the last extra

[Lune]

Only time I've ever been cat-called, by some girl leaning out of a passing VW Bug, I was out running wearing all black. Sweating my ass off in california summer heat. 15 years later and that shit still keeps me going lol. Worth it.

[unsunghero]

Only time I've ever been cat-called, by some girl leaning out of a passing VW Bug, I was out running wearing all black. Sweating my ass off in california summer heat. 15 years later and that shit still keeps me going lol. Worth it.

Lol I feel ya

It’s sad that for how much we hold onto compliments, I rarely have the guts to give them out to strangers when not working (since strengths recognition is part of the therapeutic approach, happens frequently working)

[unsunghero]

More race pics published. My determined face in the first one hiding in the background

In the second is my surprisingly photogenic face after pulling way out ahead of everyone. Normally mid-race photo’s I look like I’m being waterboarded

People give me shit for running holding my phone. But if I put it in my pocket it bashes me in the nuts and flops all around at fast speeds. I should get an arm strap but then I feel like I can’t get to it on the fly as easily

[magnetaress]

O was always afraid of getting cancer from my phone while running. Didn't relish the idea of having a strong radio source blasting my zenned out retard chakras in direct contact with my source body.

Holding it in your hands is fine tho lol. Ppl are silly. Ppl run with little hand weights and squeezy balls and shit. So why not...

[magnetaress]

It is funny tho when I was a big runner. I never sought out those races but I kept showing up at places just starting or finishing the events. Universe was probably nudging at me.

It's a good thing to do. Glad u have that in ur life. So many ppl take the ability to do stuff like that for granted (not atchu here).

[Toxigen]

ive embraced the no music / no phone runs

just my garmin watch

[unsunghero]

ive embraced the no music / no phone runs

just my garmin watch

You are a G to be able to do that. No way for me, totally music dependent

[unsunghero]

When cuz congratulates me:

[Swish]

More race pics published. My determined face in the first one hiding in the background

In the second is my surprisingly photogenic face after pulling way out ahead of everyone. Normally mid-race photo’s I look like I’m being waterboarded

People give me shit for running holding my phone. But if I put it in my pocket it bashes me in the nuts and flops all around at fast speeds. I should get an arm strap but then I feel like I can’t get to it on the fly as easily

I've always run with my phone. I have my stuff logged through my watch these days but I still have it due to not wanting to buy a batman utility belt, backpack or arm strap. The speaker can be good for some low volume beats as well.

[unsunghero]

My thoughts:

- I really nowadays only truly respect hybrid athletes like Nick Bare or Greg Doucette. If you are super jacked but your cardio/VO2max is dogshit, sorry, YOU AINT FIT!

- Nick’s goal of a sub 2:45 marathon is fuckin crazy for his build, that’s a sub 7min/mile for the full thing

- Dude says he needs to lose around 6lbs to get down to 190 when it looks like he has almost no spare fat to lose. Dude looks like he’s at 10%bf already

- Nick says how effortless it is to run at a 7:40m/mi pace at cool temps versus 90 degrees+ in Texas. Lol, I wouldn’t know man, never got to experience cool temps

- He uses very carefully determined hydration/electrolyte powder mixes which I really need to start figuring out. I take none of that shit, just pre-workout and a shitload of water beforehand. I fill my stomach with water, I call it filling up the gas tank

- Dude runs 75 miles per week which is pretty nuts. I do like 15-18 miles/week. He also does 16 miles+ in a single run one of the days. I end up bombing out my legs with leg lifts multiple times/week making running the next day impossible. Dunno how he avoids this and still trains legs

- His “critical velocity workouts” are HIIT and fuck that, pass. Not at my age. Never been into HIIT. May be why I can’t progress cardio as well but whatever

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=NIQk5tO6Oz4

[Seducio]

My thoughts on VO2max

Is there a way to test VO2max without a professional?

Pretty much the most important metric you mentioned

[unsunghero]

Is there a way to test VO2max without a professional?

Pretty much the most important metric you mentioned

Dun think so, mostly lab test only I think

Edit: my Aunt who smokes and drinks way too much for her age and is thin but completely sedentary just recently went for some kind of test/checkup at her cardiologist who put her on a treadmill and tested I think it was like blood pressure but may have been VO2max as well

Anyway, they said it rose to nearly stroke levels with mild amounts of intensity exertion, and warned her that she needs to regularly do something active for her heart

A recommendation that she continues to ignore. I’ll have a chat with her about it more and more and keep nagging her

[Swish]

Is there a way to test VO2max without a professional?

Pretty much the most important metric you mentioned

Don't rely on a garmin watch for accuracy thats for sure. Mine gives me an approximation number (46) but I don't believe in it.

[Seducio]

Peter Attia, one of semi-extreme longevity health guru MDs out there, is all about VO2 Max as the number one metric that predicts living a long and fulfilling life health wise.

Apparently folks with good scores in that metric (usually Elite athletes have high V02 Max) can "out health" all sorts of risks of dying that normal people who don't exercise semi-intensely HIIT or intervals would otherwise find fatal.

If a doctor could only take one test of your health of you then a good/high V02 max score is the number one metric predicting how long we live supposedly.

[unsunghero]

It would be interesting to study what deleterious effect, if any, fat has on cardio

Just because someone has extra fat, does not mean they don’t also have good cardio. I always think heavyweight boxers like Tyson Fury and especially Andrés Ruiz Jr are perfect examples of that. Tyson obviously has much better cardio than Ruiz but if you saw either of them and didn’t know who they were you would assume by looking at them that they could not perform at the level they do in the boxing ring

[unsunghero]

Lol. Go get ‘em boys

[magnetaress]

Lol. Go get ‘em boys

Problems with Americana society

*pollutants in the water turning them gay
*proccessed shit in food
*not enough pain
*not enough sunlight
*not enough pain
*no sports
*no martial arts
*ppl who bitch out get rewarded for being lil bitches

[unsunghero]

Roid rage is largely a myth. “Tren” rage would be more like it

Testosterone increases confidence and assuredness, so aggression depends on the person’s personality. Whatever their personality would normally tell them to do, with more confidence and assuredness, those actions will be done with more vigor

Therefore, an already aggressive person will be more aggressive. But a non-aggressive person will not suddenly become aggressive. I don’t care what the mice studies show

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=n6Q86tLAAsk

[aussenseiter]

Problems with Americana society

*pollutants in the water turning them gay

Unless this is a metaphor, hit the showers. 🚿

[unsunghero]

I've long since known I'm lifting for the bros....not the hoes

And not really for the bros, against the bros. In fitness I can't just participate and not at least mentally compete, and unfortunately the standards of competition just keep going up up up with the possibility of drugs

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NMJauhPgqrE

[Mead]

It was addicting for me to out lift the gear heads. I put a lot of work in to do so. But when a guy half their size lifts way more than them it’s so demoralizing. Made me feel so good.

[strongNpretty]

It was addicting for me to out lift the gear heads. I put a lot of work in to do so. But when a guy half their size lifts way more than them it’s so demoralizing. Made me feel so good.

Oh dayum, glad to see a Mead post! Been a while! Or maybe i'm just not paying close enough attention to forums...

[Kaveh]

PR on the hack squat today. 365

[Kaveh]

Pretty sure I just earned a hemorrhoid, gdi

[Origen]

Pretty sure I just earned a hemorrhoid, gdiYou should see the clump of wax the docs got out of my ear today, I should get some kind of award or a tax credit

[Mead]

Oh dayum, glad to see a Mead post! Been a while! Or maybe i'm just not paying close enough attention to forums...

Haha I haven’t posted in long while. I still check in once in a while though. Glad to see the fitness threads still going strong.

[unsunghero]

Yo yo, sorry was on a camping trip with no cell signal for the weekend, although it was nice to unplug during all this war drama

I am not as competitive with lifting as I am with cardio, although I try to stay above average to what I see in the gym. I may start going harder with lifts again, it’s just at 40+, the risks are much higher than going hard on cardio. I also always do at least 30 min of cardio first in my workouts, when most fitness channels recommend doing cardio after

My lifts are around (I go by 45lb plates since I hate doing the math):

3 plate each side squats for reps. Best ever I did lifetime was 4 plates each side. I only high-back-placed squat, raw, in the squat rack

3 plate each side Romanian deadlifts for reps (these should be higher weight than squats for everyone, but I almost tore some ass tendon going hard years ago and have been spooked ever since. I prefer to just do higher reps and if I really want to suffer, not let the bar touch the ground on some sets, but get really close)

2 plate each side bench, rarely. I have a naturally big chest that actually gets so big it doesn’t look aesthetic compared to the rest of my body so I greatly neglect my chest to keep more in proportion

60lb seated military dumbbells, 35lb each side standing barbell press. I could go higher on standing barbell press but as I fatigue, if I fuck up on my form in the slightest, I can torque my neck in a way where it hurts to look to one side for weeks. Not worth it to me. Had that injury multiple times!

45lb dumbbell curls

Hmm does anyone care about other stuff? I do a lot of diff other lifts, each session is 1.5hrs mostly super-set since I hate sitting and wasting time

[Kaveh]

Yo yo, sorry was on a camping trip with no cell signal for the weekend, although it was nice to unplug during all this war drama

I am not as competitive with lifting as I am with cardio, although I try to stay above average to what I see in the gym. I may start going harder with lifts again, it’s just at 40+, the risks are much higher than going hard on cardio. I also always do at least 30 min of cardio first in my workouts, when most fitness channels recommend doing cardio after

My lifts are around (I go by 45lb plates since I hate doing the math):

3 plate each side squats for reps. Best ever I did lifetime was 4 plates each side. I only high-back-placed squat, raw, in the squat rack

3 plate each side Romanian deadlifts for reps (these should be higher weight than squats for everyone, but I almost tore some ass tendon going hard years ago and have been spooked ever since. I prefer to just do higher reps and if I really want to suffer, not let the bar touch the ground on some sets, but get really close)

2 plate each side bench, rarely. I have a naturally big chest that actually gets so big it doesn’t look aesthetic compared to the rest of my body so I greatly neglect my chest to keep more in proportion

60lb seated military dumbbells, 35lb each side standing barbell press. I could go higher on standing barbell press but as I fatigue, if I fuck up on my form in the slightest, I can torque my neck in a way where it hurts to look to one side for weeks. Not worth it to me. Had that injury multiple times!

45lb dumbbell curls

Hmm does anyone care about other stuff? I do a lot of diff other lifts, each session is 1.5hrs mostly super-set since I hate sitting and wasting time

At 40+ it’s time to phase out barbell squats and deadlifts man. It’s sad but true. Keep doing the cardio though

[booter]

half dome was a success. ~16 miles and ~5100' of elevation gain and loss. the cables for the final 400' climb were a traffic jam. once i got back down the cables, i trail ran the entire way back down into the valley to our campsite.

time up- 6 hours
time down- 1 hour 55 mins

https://i.imgur.com/Rcvrlbp.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/wAFtsYo.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/59WPSPa.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/Cv6d71w.jpg

[Origen]

That's just rad. Hell yeah

[Seducio]

half dome was a success

Congrats booter. That seems like an impressive hike. One to the keep in the memories for some time that's for sure.

That's just rad. Hell yeah

It's definitely ok to be a nature lover. Hamas lover - not so sure. That's not ok given recent events.

[booter]

It's definitely ok to be a nature lover. Hamas lover - not so sure. That's not ok given recent events.

please keep this shit OUT of the lose weight enjoyers thread

[Duik]

please keep this shit OUT of the lose weight enjoyers thread

People blown up in wars lose weight. They never complain so they clearly enjoy it.
Hate less.

[Seducio]

please keep this shit OUT of the lose weight enjoyers thread

I'll do that if you encourage Origen to stop calling all the people on this board fascists willy nilly. You do realize he wanted to shut down the Off Topic subforum ya?

[Lune]

Not bad as far as half dome traffic jams go, I've definitely heard accounts of worse. Lucky fucker winning that lottery

[aussenseiter]

https://i2-prod.mirror.co.uk/incoming/article22056193.ece/ALTERNATES/s338a/0_EHP_CHP_200520Israel-Kamakawiwoole_24254JPG.jpg

[Lune]

Aussen somehow manages to post about israel in the lose weight thread and have it be relevant; impressive

[Seducio]

Aussen somehow manages to post about israel in the lose weight thread and have it be relevant; impressive

I don't think IZ smoked anything. But if he did whatever it was I want some.

Israel Kamakawiwo'ole Lyrics
"Over The Rainbow"

Ooh, ooh, ooh
Ooh, ooh

Somewhere over the rainbow
Way up high
And the dreams that you dream of
Once in a lullaby

Somewhere over the rainbow
Bluebirds fly
And the dreams that you dream of
Dreams really do come true

Someday, I wish upon a star
Wake up where the clouds are far behind me
Where trouble melts like lemon drops
High above the chimney top
That's where you'll find me

Somewhere over the rainbow
Bluebirds fly
And the dreams that you dare to
Oh why, oh why can't I?

Well, I see trees of green and red roses too
I'll watch them bloom for me and you
And I think to myself
What a wonderful world

Well, I see skies of blue and I see clouds of white
And the brightness of day
I like the dark
And I think to myself what a wonderful world

The colors of the rainbow so pretty in the sky
And also on the faces of people passing by
I see friends shaking hands saying
How do you do?
They're really saying I, I love you

I hear babies cry and I watch them grow
They'll learn much more then we'll know
And I think to myself what a wonderful world
World

Someday I wish upon a star
Wake up where the clouds are far behind me
Where trouble melts like lemon drops
High above the chimney top
That's where you'll find me

Oh, somewhere over the rainbow
Way up high
And the dreams that you dare to
Why oh, why can't I?

Ooh, ooh
Ooh, ooh

[Kaveh]

half dome was a success. ~16 miles and ~5100' of elevation gain and loss. the cables for the final 400' climb were a traffic jam. once i got back down the cables, i trail ran the entire way back down into the valley to our campsite.

time up- 6 hours
time down- 1 hour 55 mins

https://i.imgur.com/Rcvrlbp.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/wAFtsYo.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/59WPSPa.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/Cv6d71w.jpg

This is bad ass buddy. Have you done Channel Islands National park? I’m wanting to do a 2-3 week cali national parks trip next year but I can’t find anyone familiar with that one

[kjs86zskidoo]

half dome was a success. ~16 miles and ~5100' of elevation gain and loss. the cables for the final 400' climb were a traffic jam. once i got back down the cables, i trail ran the entire way back down into the valley to our campsite.

time up- 6 hours
time down- 1 hour 55 mins

https://i.imgur.com/Rcvrlbp.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/wAFtsYo.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/59WPSPa.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/Cv6d71w.jpg

I've applied 4x for half dome permits and never got one. So last time I said screw it and beat the rangers up the subdome. Climbed the cables in the dark (had my headlamp) and watched the sun come up.

Clouds Rest wound up being far a far better hike. Less traffic.

[booter]

This is bad ass buddy. Have you done Channel Islands National park? I’m wanting to do a 2-3 week cali national parks trip next year but I can’t find anyone familiar with that one

not yet! on the list for sure. i'd like to spend at least 1 night out there in one of the campgrounds though - you don't have a lot of freedom on where you're allowed to hike or camp

I've applied 4x for half dome permits and never got one. So last time I said screw it and beat the rangers up the subdome. Climbed the cables in the dark (had my headlamp) and watched the sun come up.

Clouds Rest wound up being far a far better hike. Less traffic.


i think this was our 7th? year applying for permits. we got up there shortly after the ranger, and she was checking people who were coming down before she got there :eek: i think it's like a $300 fine yikes

[Seducio]

not yet! on the list for sure. i'd like to spend at least 1 night out there in one of the campgrounds though - you don't have a lot of freedom on where you're allowed to hike or camp

i think this was our 7th? year applying for permits. we got up there shortly after the ranger, and she was checking people who were coming down before she got there :eek: i think it's like a $300 fine yikes

Have you been on any other hikes that were comparable? Previously did half dome approx ten years back and currently looking to find options in similar difficulty range.

[unsunghero]

half dome was a success. ~16 miles and ~5100' of elevation gain and loss. the cables for the final 400' climb were a traffic jam. once i got back down the cables, i trail ran the entire way back down into the valley to our campsite.

time up- 6 hours
time down- 1 hour 55 mins

https://i.imgur.com/Rcvrlbp.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/wAFtsYo.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/59WPSPa.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/Cv6d71w.jpg


Beautiful pics! Jealous, that looks fun

Too bad you didn’t check the health app if you had an iPhone or ran some kind of a fitness tracker, woulda been cool to see how many calories that burned

[unsunghero]

WTF is Victoria Secret doing? When sales drop you need to DOUBLE DOWN

And when I say “double down” I mean on weight!

Go fatter with your models! I’m talking girls with double foopah’s. Girls with back tits. Don’t stop the mass psychological movement to convince people that super fat is beautiful!

You were almost there!

[unsunghero]

Philion dropped the ball on this one:

- Talks about rampant steroid use in the UK, and mentions how many people are open and honest about use nowadays, then titles his video “fake natty invasion” because it’s more hyperbolic. News flash, broheim, someone admitting use is not a “fake natty”

- Claims that people taking steroids don’t “work hard”. Most steroids do not give magical strength, speed, or cardio. If anything most actually hurt cardio. They also don’t magically build muscle without damaging muscle fibers. All they do is assist with greater repair

- In fact, when it comes to “working hard”, there are people who already had a personality to want to focus very hard on training, but were limited on what their body could naturally repair, and decided to boost their ability to repair to match their mental drive to train hard. But Philion wants to pretend that the only people who are drawn to steroids or TRT, are lazy people who want a quick way to cheat

- Philion is a prime example of someone who makes the unfalsifiable claim of “I bet I could look like The Rock if I took the same drugs as him, but I won’t ever prove it, so I can pat myself on the back and claim that I work just as hard as he does”

The reality:

- Drug users work ethic is a spectrum just like non-drug users. Some drug users work harder, some less hard. I would venture that some of the hardest trainers in the world are drug users, people who were already obsessed with their hobby and wanted a pharmaceutical way to continue to do it to an obsessive amount

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=yyvKQtZXnJ4

[aussenseiter]

i think this was our 7th? year applying for permits. we got up there shortly after the ranger, and she was checking people who were coming down before she got there :eek: i think it's like a $300 fine yikes

https://i.imgur.com/3zFbRB9.png

[unsunghero]

I would venture that some of the hardest trainers in the world are drug users

I can tell by looking at the physique of the yoked dude that admits use in an interview, that he trains not only harder but better than Philion could imagine. Taking drugs does not grant magic symmetry, good aesthetics. That shit has to be carved and chiseled or else you get weird looking non-symmetrical size

I would bet my truck that if Philion and that guy were in the gym together, Philion would be thinking “oh wow this dude trains harder, for longer, and with better form than I. And he also is doing a bunch of exercises I didn’t even know existed” and then you stack the drug progress on top of that. But the gap would be closer if Philion actually trained as well, in terms of form and knowledge at least. Anyone who lifts for aesthetics can respect that careful work that has to go into really great symmetry in addition to size

Also, if the drug user is training harder, because they can, then there is also a greater mental fortitude needed. Because drugs don’t change the fact that the longer the body is kept in a state of borderline-car-accident levels of torture, be it from either some intense lift session or some crazy endurance run, the longer the brain is battling with the impulse of: “WTF are we in the middle of an actual war? How long has the tiger been chasing us?? FUCKING STAPH ALREADY. STAPH!”. And then the brain has to override that impulse

CNS burnout is a thing and drugs don’t magically protect against that

[booter]

Have you been on any other hikes that were comparable? Previously did half dome approx ten years back and currently looking to find options in similar difficulty range.

not specifically in yosemite but i regularly hike ~10-15 miles days at least once a month in my local mountains... usually about 4,000' of gain/loss on the bigger ones. started hiking seriously about 8 years ago and wilderness backpacking maybe 6 years

mountaineering is my main pursuit/hobby now so i have to keep a high base aerobic fitness year round... 3 or 4 nights a week i put on a 40lb weight vest and do a couple miles and ~500-1000' of gain/loss after the kiddo is in bed

[booter]

Beautiful pics! Jealous, that looks fun

Too bad you didn’t check the health app if you had an iPhone or ran some kind of a fitness tracker, woulda been cool to see how many calories that burned

my suunto ambit3 watch said 1300 calories i think

[Seducio]

not specifically in yosemite but i regularly hike ~10-15 miles days at least once a month in my local mountains... usually about 4,000' of gain/loss on the bigger ones. started hiking seriously about 8 years ago and wilderness backpacking maybe 6 years

mountaineering is my main pursuit/hobby now so i have to keep a high base aerobic fitness year round... 3 or 4 nights a week i put on a 40lb weight vest and do a couple miles and ~500-1000' of gain/loss after the kiddo is in bed

Right on. It sounds like you are quite dedicated to getting out in nature and taking it all in.

What differences are there would you say between the normal hiking you do and wilderness backpacking?

[Kaveh]

not specifically in yosemite but i regularly hike ~10-15 miles days at least once a month in my local mountains... usually about 4,000' of gain/loss on the bigger ones. started hiking seriously about 8 years ago and wilderness backpacking maybe 6 years

mountaineering is my main pursuit/hobby now so i have to keep a high base aerobic fitness year round... 3 or 4 nights a week i put on a 40lb weight vest and do a couple miles and ~500-1000' of gain/loss after the kiddo is in bed

Check out alaska buddy, you won’t regret it

[Seducio]

Check out alaska buddy, you won’t regret it

Never been out in the bush in Alaska. But I did King Salmon fishing on the Kenai river. Possibly the most fun I've ever had fishing, including ocean salt water fishing adventures. Reeling those suckers in takes effort and time. When you finally get it to the boat you can be quite exhausted. It's been a while, but when I went you could only catch one-a-day officially with many park rangers patrolling the river. Rest had to be thrown back. Highly recommended adventure for those that like to fish.

[Origen]

I'm still very sad that covid killed the Alaska honeymoon we had planned. We even had a salmon fishing excursion booked. Probably all tourist trap stuff but I was looking forward to it.

Had to settle for a road trip to St. Augustine. Still got my Alaska Air credits though :o

[Seducio]

Glad you enjoyed St. Augustine. Never been sounds like a fun spot. Highly encourage a reschedule of your Alaska adventure if you can. Visiting Alaska creates memories.

[booter]

Right on. It sounds like you are quite dedicated to getting out in nature and taking it all in.

What differences are there would you say between the normal hiking you do and wilderness backpacking?

just trip length, really. hiking i just consider a 1 day pursuit, whereas if i'm wilderness backpacking, im out there for multiple days at a time with all the necessary gear in my pack

Check out alaska buddy, you won’t regret it

planning a trip to gates of the arctic/brooks range in 2025!

[Seducio]

just trip length, really. hiking i just consider a 1 day pursuit, whereas if i'm wilderness backpacking, im out there for multiple days at a time with all the necessary gear in my pack

planning a trip to gates of the arctic/brooks range in 2025!

A man of the outdoors. Nice. Apologies for my initial response to your Yosemite trip that included something that didn't have to do with your adventure.

Thanks for posting. Seeing your pics brought memories back of my own Half Dome trip decade back.

[Kaveh]

Gonna do Emory peak in big bend. The area is actually cooler looking than I thought. Doesn’t compare to anything out west but we’ll see how it goes tomorrow

[nostalgiaquest]

Girlfriend dragged me to an acro yoga session today. She's been doing it a while and I agreed to join her if she agreed to join me in the gym lol.

Had a pretty good time actually. After an hour or so we were already moving through a number of flows. Seemed like a pretty good workout. And a fun test of functional strength compared to the general numbers game of moving iron around in the gym.

Would recommend.

[unsunghero]

“Why is he this upset about a guy not wearing a shirt?” - Charle

Uh, because there’s RULES in gyms for a reason. Because if there wasn’t a shirts required rule, every bro with a better physique than this guy (which is a lot of people) would be going shirtless in the gym. Or how about no pants? How about if you like how you look naked, you can just be naked in there. I’m sure that will do good for the “it has been [x] days since the last public molestation” counter….

That being said, it’s staff’s job to throw out that self-loving narcissist shirtless bro

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=S3Bx5l0PX1Q

[Kaveh]

Big bend was better than I imagined. It’s still fucking hot in Texas though, even this late in the year

I’m shocked I didn’t see 500 illegals based on what the news tells me

[Seducio]

Big bend was better than I imagined. It’s still fucking hot in Texas though, even this late in the year

I’m shocked I didn’t see 500 illegals based on what the news tells me

Last time I vacationed in Cali went off the beaten path. If you make out to west coast ever for sight seeing Big Sur area worth checking out. Slightly north of that on the way to SF are Depression era brick bridges that are both antiques and functional. Bixby Bridge if I'm recalling it right. They aren't made like that anymore. While south of Big Sur you have San Louise Obispo and Pismo Beach areas. Completely different vibe compared to Tx National Park if you do up the Pacific Coast Highway on the 1 / 101. Certain parts are cinematic. You can tell certain movies were shot on those roads as you drive.

[unsunghero]

A bit dry, but definitely one of the most objective perspectives on the vaccine IMO

Amazed the doc isn’t cancelled for mentioning vaccine risks, even though he mentions greater covid risks alongside it. I thought mentioning vaccine risks was a big no no

Still doing hard cardio with the vaxx AND covid and no heart attack (yet)

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=60nRmz7_yR0

[unsunghero]

In November I have a 6 mile Kayak race down and up the Colorado river, 3 miles down, 3 miles up

Interested to see what going up will be like, apparently there are spots where the flow isn’t as bad, but obviously going up there can be no resting without a loss of ground

Luckily Dad and I can already go 6 miles with almost no break. He has a super fast $2000 racing yak and can probably beat all the other 70yr olds, considering he can beat me

I’ll be holding him back, but we gonna stay together

Isaiah 43 verse 2: “When you pass through the waters, I will be with you, And through the river, they will not overflow you”

This will be our first time, pics from previous races put on by this event:

[unsunghero]

^
We gonna be showing up ready to compete like:

[unsunghero]

Discipline test:

Having to walk by this 20 times a day at work. Fuckin holidays….

[booter]

i'm finishing a light 8 week bulk right now so the office candy bucket has been a blessing... give me all the calories

next week i'm gonna start a deficit and get ready for some winter climbs

[unsunghero]

i'm finishing a light 8 week bulk right now so the office candy bucket has been a blessing... give me all the calories

next week i'm gonna start a deficit and get ready for some winter climbs

[unsunghero]

- Sumo's are not real deadlifts, I agree ;)

- There's a guy in my gym who squats 5 plates each side who lifts like this. Makes as much noise and glances around to make sure he's gotten as many people's attention as possible. Still impressive though

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HCVWTDVGo_s

[Seducio]

"Any new idea as bold as really hot chicks as models will be met with some skepticism, and we're gonna have to be really careful with how we introduce it to the public."

7ETqCRM3Szs

[unsunghero]

I was originally trying to show that butthole because the morphsuit looks super gay

But as you can see, ya boy has legs. Got that booty from deadlifts

[unsunghero]

^
Should make that my new profile pic

[unsunghero]

There’s been some info coming out that a lot of Omgea-3 fish oil may be rancid. And for the first time I just noticed this little guy in my Fish Oil supplement

Smelled it and it’s clearly an air freshener. Hmm this to cover the rancid smell?….

[unsunghero]

I was originally trying to show that butthole

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=a7wTNtlya2A

[unsunghero]

My co-worker says he had a very overweight friend that is suicidal over not being able to get a date for more than 15 years and insecurity over apparently having a small dick

I told co-worker to tell him losing that fat could improve so many of life’s problems. In addition to more confidence, he’ll also have more testosterone, and a bigger dick. Fat people may not realize but a layer of fat builds up around the shaft, which could cost them more than an inch in size

But still he won’t do it. This is where I wish I could have a service where I go inside someone else’s body to lose the weight for them. I’d have my rate be thousands of dollars once the job’s done and people would pay it :/

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=xwAGtnWlRpk

[booter]

where I go inside someone else’s body

:eek:

i gotta take some sweet jacked leg pics for you guys. most of my workouts/adventures are leg days. i sometimes wish i had a slightly bigger upper body (just for looks/aesthetics) but any added weight that isn't helping me move around the mountains is hindering me. im very dialed in to what i need to do to accomplish my specific goals.

https://uphillathlete.com/strength-training/strength-training-for-the-mountain-athlete/

relevant paragraphs here:

Mountain Strong Isn’t Gym Strong

For many, the term strength training conjures images of muscle-bound gym-goers grunting out bicep curls in front of a mirror or chasing a new one-rep max for a particular lift. Banish that from your mind, because that is not what strength training should look like for you as an endurance athlete. A trail runner, mountaineer, climber, or skier ultimately needs to develop event specific functional strength for their given activity, not bulk they’ll then have to haul up a hill, mountain, or route. You simply can’t afford to gain strength at the expense of adding appreciable muscle mass.

Mountain strength training has two primary aims: first, to unlock your full performance potential in your chosen mountain sport; second, to prevent injuries. The goal is not to become stronger at a certain gym-based exercise. You may lift weights to address deficiencies in your general strength, as discussed below. But once you have accomplished that, it will benefit your performance to transition to more sport-specific strength work. In mountain athletics, weightlifting should never be an end unto itself.

[Toxigen]

:eek:

i gotta take some sweet jacked leg pics for you guys. most of my workouts/adventures are leg days. i sometimes wish i had a slightly bigger upper body (just for looks/aesthetics) but any added weight that isn't helping me move around the mountains is hindering me. im very dialed in to what i need to do to accomplish my specific goals.

https://uphillathlete.com/strength-training/strength-training-for-the-mountain-athlete/

i have this book sitting on my nightstand

https://www.amazon.com/Training-Uphill-Athlete-Mountain-Mountaineers/dp/1938340841/ref=sr_1_1?crid=2CUI25OODWCYJ&keywords=uphill+athlete+book&qid=1698944620&sprefix=uphill+a%2Caps%2C181&sr=8-1

Elf Sim Hike Meetup 2024? Could do a couple 14ers in CO.

[unsunghero]

Ya gym strength is not all that functional strength IMO

[booter]

i have this book sitting on my nightstand

https://www.amazon.com/Training-Uphill-Athlete-Mountain-Mountaineers/dp/1938340841/ref=sr_1_1?crid=2CUI25OODWCYJ&keywords=uphill+athlete+book&qid=1698944620&sprefix=uphill+a%2Caps%2C181&sr=8-1



same + it's nearly identical companion "Training For New Alpinism" both boil down to essentially the same thing

i'd def give it a read if you're interested in mountain/endurance sports, it really allowed me to focus my limited time training in order to do do more than i thought i was capable of

also helped be shed 20~ new dad pounds that somehow crept on me in the first year of my kid's life

[Seducio]

I don't think IZ smoked anything. But if he did whatever it was I want some.

Israel Kamakawiwo'ole Lyrics
"Over The Rainbow"

Ooh, ooh, ooh
Ooh, ooh

Somewhere over the rainbow
Way up high
And the dreams that you dream of
Once in a lullaby

Somewhere over the rainbow
Bluebirds fly
And the dreams that you dream of
Dreams really do come true

Someday, I wish upon a star
Wake up where the clouds are far behind me
Where trouble melts like lemon drops
High above the chimney top
That's where you'll find me

Somewhere over the rainbow
Bluebirds fly
And the dreams that you dare to
Oh why, oh why can't I?

Well, I see trees of green and red roses too
I'll watch them bloom for me and you
And I think to myself
What a wonderful world

Well, I see skies of blue and I see clouds of white
And the brightness of day
I like the dark
And I think to myself what a wonderful world

The colors of the rainbow so pretty in the sky
And also on the faces of people passing by
I see friends shaking hands saying
How do you do?
They're really saying I, I love you

I hear babies cry and I watch them grow
They'll learn much more then we'll know
And I think to myself what a wonderful world
World

Someday I wish upon a star
Wake up where the clouds are far behind me
Where trouble melts like lemon drops
High above the chimney top
That's where you'll find me

Oh, somewhere over the rainbow
Way up high
And the dreams that you dare to
Why oh, why can't I?

Ooh, ooh
Ooh, ooh

IZ would be proud. Great rendition of this song by Iam Tongi.

qjsVT0SI3_U

[unsunghero]

https://i.ibb.co/HKWJhmx/IMG-3620.jpg (https://ibb.co/D1xqr38)

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=R5nnr_j2uVk

[Lune]

lol it's funny because that is Zyzz and his heart exploded

[unsunghero]

lol it's funny because that is Zyzz and his heart exploded

He had a heart defect. No way to say that he for sure died from PED use

But what is interesting is his brother was using and has continued to use PED’s since his death 12 years ago, and the brother is ok

[Lune]

He had a heart defect. No way to say that he for sure died from PED use

But what is interesting is his brother was using and has continued to use PED’s since his death 12 years ago, and the brother is ok

We don't know for sure why Zyzz's heart exploded, and he may have had a heart defect as the family said, but we do know the HGH couldn't have helped. Plenty of smokers don't get lung cancer

Not looking to argue PED's I'm sure they have figured out how to get them dialed in well enough to truly minimize ill health effects, but that is a poor choice of thumbnail pic on behalf of that youtuber... unless it was for engagement.

[unsunghero]

We don't know for sure why Zyzz's heart exploded, and he may have had a heart defect as the family said, but we do know the HGH couldn't have helped. Plenty of smokers don't get lung cancer

Not looking to argue PED's I'm sure they have figured out how to get them dialed in well enough to truly minimize ill health effects, but that is a poor choice of thumbnail pic on behalf of that youtuber... unless it was for engagement.

I greatly respect Zyzz

The dude was always open and honest about his use of PED's, and he knew the risk, or at least some of the risk since the serious heart defect he was unaware of (this was proven in an autopsy btw, it's not speculation on the part of the family to my knowledge). Had he known that, he may have decided not to ever dabble with them

You don't have to live a perfect life to be a good role model. In fact, his poor choices resulting in his death serves a perfect warning to the younger generation considering it

[unsunghero]

^
Zyzz was also open and honest about the side effects that he noticed from his PED's, he's mentioned having big time testicular atrophy and I'm sure would have mentioned the strain on his heart if he was more aware of it

Why all these bodybuilders like him never bothered with HCG is beyond me. All these bodybuilders in vids just accepting "Welp, looks like I have tiny balls for life", when they could easily have prevented that. But too late once atrophy sets in I hear

Then again, my hand doctor said my loss of hand size from muscle atrophy (due to my ulnar nerve issue) was permanent and I grew that muscle back despite his claims

[Lune]

Any loss in grip strength on that side?

Several things can happen when a peripheral nerve is damaged, depending on the extent. Can result in repairable damage with recovery complete enough that anything permanent is unnoticeable.... so these are cases where the nerve sheath is intact and axons can recover better within that scaffold. Certain surgeries can achieve this in wholly severed nerves if performed quickly and skillfully enough.

In cases with long term nerve damage and extensive cell death, recovery of activation for some motor units may not be possible... that link is dead for life.

Both of these can result in muscle atrophy, but recovery can only happen in one of them. Even with loss of motor units, you can get some neurogenesis with remaining motor units expanding their turf a little bit and making up for it in other ways. So you can end up with muscle that has mass but isn't quite as efficient. I get patients with mild spinal cord injuries where their quad is actually fairly decent size, compared to the other side, but you get them on their feet and their knee buckles from weakness.

[unsunghero]

^
Yea there is some slight permanent loss of strength, but only in certain movements, like manipulating a toenail clippers or doing a scissors motion

The doctor I really liked (although I’ve had mostly shit doctors for comparison), but he did give me some bad advice. When the nerve came out of socket and my hand went numb, he said not to wait “like 2 years” to have surgery on the arm. Well, when you tell a procrastinator like me not to wait “2 years”, I’m going to wait about a year and a half

But about a year into waiting I noticed my left hand was becoming skeletonized. Terrified, I called up the doc and scheduled the surgery. He took a look at the hand said “sorry, that atrophy is permanent”

I said “nah doc, building muscle is what I do”, and he said “there’s no fibers left to build”

But that wasn’t completely accurate, as the meat came back to my left hand to where you couldn’t even tell with a cursory glance which arm was fucked up now

[Lune]

^
Yea there is some slight permanent loss of strength, but only in certain movements, like manipulating a toenail clippers or doing a scissors motion

Froment's sign (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Froment%27s_sign)

The doctor I really liked (although I’ve had mostly shit doctors for comparison), but he did give me some bad advice. When the nerve came out of socket and my hand went numb, he said not to wait “like 2 years” to have surgery on the arm. Well, when you tell a procrastinator like me not to wait “2 years”, I’m going to wait about a year and a half

But about a year into waiting I noticed my left hand was becoming skeletonized. Terrified, I called up the doc and scheduled the surgery. He took a look at the hand said “sorry, that atrophy is permanent”

I said “nah doc, building muscle is what I do”, and he said “there’s no fibers left to build”

But that wasn’t completely accurate, as the meat came back to my left hand to where you couldn’t even tell with a cursory glance which arm was fucked up now

Sounds like some terrible communication for sure. Glad I'm not a doctor and my miscommunications aren't going to fuck with somebody's nerves

[unsunghero]

Froment's sign (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Froment%27s_sign)



Sounds like some terrible communication for sure. Glad I'm not a doctor and my miscommunications aren't going to fuck with somebody's nerves

Yea to that point I guess I still didn’t understand atrophy. I remember asking the doctor, “so doc, if someone was in a wheelchair for 15 years and their legs wasted away, then somehow their spine was repaired, they’d still have skinny skeleton legs forever?”

And he said yes

[unsunghero]

Get passed so rarely on my cardio mountain climb that it always startles me

Got passed today early on, and took a quick survey. Didn’t recognize the dude (I know most of the few cardio freak people who are faster than me, since they’re people that climb it every day or for some of them twice in a row/day). Had the right build, jacked legs and wiry small upper half. But he was in khaki shorts. Hmmm. Also noticed despite his fast hiking pace, he wasn’t running the straight parts. If you want a 25ish min summit time, you can’t even brisk walk those, you gotta run em

So I figured I’ll probably pass this dude. Sure enough at around the midpoint he had to step to one side to let me by. Eeeeugghh, that’s rough bro. Dude was still fast, finished only about a minute or 2 behind

People want to criticize that training for the girls is pointless. But I train for the boys. And by for, I mean against. Was fastest up today, if you ain’t in first yer last!

[Homesteaded]

Climbing elevation is such a force multiplier, it’s amazing. Hockey starts back up Sunday, usually gets me out of a fitness funk. Which I’m currently in, I do have a month no booze or weed and I’m feeling great. Little grace goes along way. Keep up the good work here folks.

[unsunghero]

Climbing elevation is such a force multiplier, it’s amazing. Hockey starts back up Sunday, usually gets me out of a fitness funk. Which I’m currently in, I do have a month no booze or weed and I’m feeling great. Little grace goes along way. Keep up the good work here folks.

I’ve had a lifetime of jealousy ever since I was a kid for people who play team sports. All my fitness endeavors have been solo

The before and after IRL socializing and having to synchronize teamwork is good for the brain. You don’t get that with the solo stuff

[unsunghero]

Boogie said in some recent documentary that he paid $10,000 for training and travel for the boxing match of the lolcows vs WingsOfRedemption, and he only made 10k so it was a wash

I’m thinking breugh, I don’t think you ever threw a punch. You didn’t even look at your opponent, most of the time you were looking in a random direction before getting punched in the head. You paid $10k (or part of it) for that “training”?

I don’t think it was humanly possible to be a shittier boxer, so that training did fuckall

[booter]

Climbing elevation is such a force multiplier, it’s amazing. Hockey starts back up Sunday, usually gets me out of a fitness funk. Which I’m currently in, I do have a month no booze or weed and I’m feeling great. Little grace goes along way. Keep up the good work here folks.

give me vert all day

did a big dayhike today that i've wanted to check off my list for a while, it was brutal even tho the stats don't suggest it

~13 miles 4,400' gain

ended up having miles of bushwack, literally at times crawling on my hands and knees through tunnels of bramble, thistle, poison oak

was a total sufferfest but type 2 fun, i'll laugh about it later

[Lune]

If you're a fan of The Suck™ hit Sinkyone Wilderness in December and enjoy getting rainblasted while slogging through this shit:

https://i.imgur.com/nqXhlnI.jpg

No joke though this is my favorite trek in California. (https://www.redwoodhikes.com/Sinkyone/LostCoast.html) When it comes to coastal views, people hype about Big Sur, but Sinkyone is a fraction as crowded, far more remote, and gorgeous if you haven't been. At least that was the case last time I did it in 2012, could have become more popular since then.

Fun fact: I did the road into Usal Beach (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pnrY5ih4CfU), in March, while muddy, in a 2001 Toyota Camry lol

https://i.imgur.com/cIlMDjy.jpg

Little Jackass Creek (not to be confused with Jackass Creek, which is further down the trail at Wheeler Beach) has the most attractive campground of the hike. For that matter, it’s one of the most attractive campgrounds in any redwood park. It’s one of the highlights of the hike. Located in a lush glen surrounded by precipitously steep, high, redwood-covered hills, the campground is set in an old-growth redwood grove (maybe part of the Sally Bell Grove), with 10 or 12 medium-sized redwoods visible from the trail. There aren’t actually a lot of places where you can camp under old-growth redwoods, and none of them can really compare to this campground. Unusually, there are also maples; the lighter foliage of the maples contrasts with the darker, more formal-looking redwoods and gives the grove a distinctively friendly, leafy appearance. The burbling of a little brook fills the grove, even in late summer. A short trail leads to a secluded beach. In fact the entire area is so secluded that even on a Labor Day weekend, I didn’t see a single person in the area all day.

[unsunghero]

ended up having miles of bushwack, literally at times crawling on my hands and knees through tunnels of bramble, thistle, poison oak

was a total sufferfest but type 2 fun, i'll laugh about it later

Oye, I really struggle to think of any redeemable thing about bushwacking it

Edit: I’d rather stretch than bushwhack, and I hate stretching

[unsunghero]

^
May be due to the fact that every time I’ve had to bushwhack, it has also included being lost and increasingly anxious

[unsunghero]

As someone who’s tried a lot of legal and illegal stuff, I don’t think any herbal supplement is more powerful than Yohimbe. I know dose is a huge factor and I don’t remember typical dosages, but that should not be sold as a dick pill or for weight loss

Anyone who thinks anxiety isn’t really a thing, should try the Yohimbe challenge: take about 5 or 6 pills at once. You will be so uncomfortable. Racing heart. Mental anxiety and sometimes dread. I was getting palpitations from taking 2 on the way to the gf’s house. The only other time I felt palpitations was coming down from coke, and Yohimbe is legal and commercially sold

Anyway, this dude at 300x the recommended dose and got a fast pass to Seizure World

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=wmT7njYx3MY

[unsunghero]

This weekend drove with Pa to a hotel on the California border part of the Colorado river for the most competitive and biggest….I don’t even know the term….”paddle sports” race? They had all these different watercrafts there; I believe the bigger ones are called “outriggers” because I noticed the teams were “outrigger clubs” from various states, complete with cute matching uniforms

And apparently “paddle sports” is a big deal in Hawaii, so there were a lot of Hawaiians who were clearly pro’s. Talking yoked-out Hawaiian dudes with beautiful expensive hand carved paddles and wearing all their pro gear complete with a film crew. Dad and I were talking to one who said he flew in from Hawaii, and I was like “why the hell would anyone come to AZ from Hawaii? Have you seen how it is here?” He laughed and basically said just for the race

We got to take a look around the day before the race when we got there, and I realized kayaks were the minority of crafts on the river, and also the least expensive. There were these huge fuckers that apparently cost as much as a car:

https://i.ibb.co/Js6xTQN/IMG-3660.jpg (https://ibb.co/3C6fbzw)

https://i.ibb.co/XYs8ynV/IMG-3661.jpg (https://ibb.co/GH2TsZF)

And I realized that we stood no chance even against these sleek 17”+ whatever-the-fuck-they-are racing crafts. There were more people there from CA than AZ even. I was talking to these middle aged ladies from CA and they casually mentioned how they’re whatever these things are called (I forget, so many diff boat names to remember that day) cost $4,500. And that was starting. The others said theirs were between $5k-8k. So I’m assuming most of the Californians at this thing were rich. And that we were screwed, because those things are fast as fuck

https://i.ibb.co/zf8QbqM/IMG-3662.jpg (https://ibb.co/pXWbZY7)

Continued in next post….

[unsunghero]

Race morning had to be up at 6am to start getting ready, and typical for me in races I was going on almost no sleep (I don’t sleep well at home much less in some hotel). And it turns out, this was not nearly enough layers. Because it was like 30 degrees out that early and I had to get my ass in the water

https://i.ibb.co/0mR1JzB/IMG-3729.jpg (https://ibb.co/7jdBy0g)
upload a pic (https://imgbb.com/)


https://i.ibb.co/0sT4t9L/IMG-3706.jpg (https://ibb.co/cY0fL89)

Race started at 8am and by then I could strip off the ski jacket I was wearing, and luckily for this race I was able to listen to my own screechy techno music with earbuds rather than Dad’s speaker. This was a huge advantage for me, because I perform much better to my own music than someone else’s or none

https://i.ibb.co/418zYSY/IMG-3707.jpg (https://ibb.co/phfcRKR)

It was confusing, because some guy with a megaphone was calling out each craft type with its own start time, and us poor people in our kayaks were last to go. But even though those other crafts could go many times faster with far less effort, if anyone piloting had to stop or slow down at all, they were at risk of us catching them. Because Dad and I can go for miles at a fast pace with no slowing or stopping

Off we went, me cranking as hard as I could (pacing myself for the 5miles). The only time I remotely slowed down was when I was rounding the giant inflatable star buoy that marked the halfway “turn around and come back” spot, I slapped that fucker as I went around it. Other than that it was about an hour and 20 minutes of non-stop hard rowing, I know because I had to re-start my hour long techno song (https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=6lMMnOnd0ws)

I was having an absolute blast and passed a few of the (usually gals) slower people even in their fancy $5k water space ships. The only downside was I hadn’t prepped enough water due to everything being frantic getting to the start line in time, and dad was also dehydrated so I tossed him my water bottle 15 seconds before they called our group to start. So I was dehydrated to where my mouth was crusted shut for the second half. And all the River water was so tempting despite looking kinda gross. I thought maybe I could scoop some into my mouth and spit it out and not get sick, but didn’t

Dad is normally faster than me because his yak is much longer and thinner, meant for racing, but he also was going on no sleep and dehydrated. On the last 1/3 mile in I caught a strong second wind and was pulling so hard on the paddles both hands were completely numb. I passed him and tried to motivate him yelling lines from Troy at him:

https://i.ibb.co/5FvBbCC/IMG-3730.gif (https://imgbb.com/)

Continued in next post…

[unsunghero]

Unfortunately, Dad had no chance of catching me in the last 1/3, so I beat him. And apparently people talking to my dad said they thought I got second place of all kayakers when he told them my number

I believe I should have been first place, not second, with dad as second place, not third. Because no one in a kayak passed us or was remotely close to us. What we think happened is the first place guy was confused like us and false-started with the other craft types. I almost did it myself, seeing all the other boats taking off and frantically yelling to dad “Everyone’s going? Should we go?” A false start would have meant more than a 15 minute lead

So anyway, I got second overall for the kayakers. Didn’t expect to even place, so that was cool

https://i.ibb.co/09MM1mC/IMG-4144.jpg (https://ibb.co/6tPPGrH)

Next year we want to do the 10 mile version. Which we easily could have done this year dad just was apprehensive due to having thrown out his back a few months before

[unsunghero]

*
Oops posted wrong song but it was a diff hour long mix

[booter]

nice congrats, looks like a fun trip!

[Seducio]

Good effort out there Unsung. Congrats on placing in the race even though you didn't think you would. Seems like some tough competition was there. Glad you and your fam were able to enjoy some time outdoors.

Cheers

[Lune]

Good call not drinking out of the colorado that shit's nasty and toxic in that region.

[unsunghero]

Ty all

Here’s me getting my second place cup. First place got a mug (Fuck you kayaker “Ron” you CHEATER!! 1v1 me in a kayak you FUCKING NOOB!!!)

Third place got a shot glass. At least I could pass off my misery onto dad by asking if he was jealous of my nice average sized glass cup, compared to his tiny widdle micropenis…er…I mean shot glass

[unsunghero]

,…

[Homesteaded]

Here is a new challenge for you unsung.

5t6HSBQmgN0

[unsunghero]

^
Interesting. I’ll send it to dad. I think I could do it, but dad might be too old for it at this point

[unsunghero]

I know of and/or sub to most of the guys Jonni said hi to at the most recent Mr Olympia

The dude vigoroussteve is the one who busted the Liver King btw. Chef Rush was the chef for the White House

Greg Doucette is fried from being so popular and having everyone come up to him to talk. Same thing happens to family/friend grooms on wedding days. They eventually just get completely frazzled from having non-stop social stimuli all day

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=QcKxJJPyW2I

[unsunghero]

Have you ever tried this? It works!

https://m.youtube.com/shorts/DFJDEm7aB9U

[Dolalin]

I'm now 103.8kg, weight loss slowed a bit heading into the winter and around Halloween for obvious reasons. Still on track though. I want to be below 100kg in time for my birthday in Feb.

[Toxigen]

this shit is nuts

NDZdsqbcGTU

[booter]

love the barkley, been following it for a while... a lot of the athletes i look up to in outdoor/endurance sports have been invited and almost none have completed it :)

the dude who runs it is pretty wild, v v weird dude

[unsunghero]

^
Yea I had heard of that one too. Sounded like an interesting idea, but not all that enthused about ever trying it

To me there’s a line between a test of strength and endurance, and pointless self-inflicted torture. Did ya’ll know there’s a “haunted house” that no one has ever completed? A co-worker was telling me about it. You have to sign all these waivers and then they just basically torture the living shit out of you until you give up. Now, they can’t peel your fingernails off, but supposedly they feed you and make you sit in disgusting stuff, and even are allowed to like waterboard you towards the end

There’s also “manosphere” retreats put on by “TRT NPC” men who want to roleplay being an army drill Sargent. And at their retreats you can spend thousands of dollars to have them force you to crawl in the mud while they spray in you face with freezing cold water and call you a bitchy pussy for a week straight. And then they’ll give you some medal or a hatchet or some stupid trinket and call you a man because you willingly let them live out their drill Sargent torture fantasies for a week

For me, pass on all that shit. Tough Mudder and Spartan are about the limits of what I am down to pay money for to prove myself. That is unless something really awesome comes along that piques my interest

[Toxigen]

^


To me there’s a line between a test of strength and endurance, and pointless self-inflicted torture. Did ya’ll know there’s a “haunted house” that no one has ever completed? A co-worker was telling me about it. You have to sign all these waivers and then they just basically torture the living shit out of you until you give up. Now, they can’t peel your fingernails off, but supposedly they feed you and make you sit in disgusting stuff, and even are allowed to like waterboard you towards the end





yeah thats McKamey Manor

CF8FJx1El7c

shits totally fucked - an ex marine almost made it but the guy who runs it called a BS hypothermia danger and stopped it minutes before 10 hours was up

most people tap out before 3 hours

[Homesteaded]

I'm now 103.8kg, weight loss slowed a bit heading into the winter and around Halloween for obvious reasons. Still on track though. I want to be below 100kg in time for my birthday in Feb.

Killograms? More like Gaylogram

[unsunghero]

Been slacking on timed runs since I won the last 5k

And unfortunately cardio (vo2max) degrades faster than muscle when not pushed

So this feels like a pace I can maintain indefinitely, but unfortunately is 20s/min slower than my recent best 5mi, and a full min/mile slower than my last race 5k

I have about a month and a half to whittle this down, and expand the distance to 8ish miles, maybe 10. I don’t ever need to train the full half-m, the adrenaline of the race usually carries me the last 1/4ish

Anytime I lose ground in fitness, I feel the Linkin Park song playing in my head….it feels so hard to build, and so goddamn easy to lose

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=hDhHxJcXXEE

[Homesteaded]

Setup my weight bench in the barn yesterday.

Setup three templates, Chest/Shoulders - Back/Arms - Legs.

Picked 5/6 lifts for each template. I've never really lifted weights, I did it when I was in high school and we did it for sports but never really as an adult.

Doing my best to keep it simple here. I end up getting drowned in information when I try and optimize something new. I did the same thing with Piano, I started that and am doing decent but early on I really went over board on how to get started...instead of just starting.

[Toxigen]

bench / deadlift / squats / pullups

if you could only do 4 exercises those would be it...anything else is gravy

[Meneldor]

bench / deadlift / squats / pullups

if you could only do 4 exercises those would be it...anything else is gravy

I would add Rows

[Homesteaded]

bench / deadlift / squats / pullups

if you could only do 4 exercises those would be it...anything else is gravy

All four are in my routine.

[Rager and Quitter]

For the last 2 years I changed up my lift routine. I have some buddies that swear by lifting muscle groups (push/pull divison) but I've always felt my body responds best to upper body/lower body. Mon/Wed/Fri upper, Tue/Thur/Sat lower, Sunday rest (yea verily it be thy day if the lord *Catholic cross with that fingas).

I might not be able to train each muscle group quite as much, but this ends up being better for me.

I've always *hated* squats, so I'll do deadlifts and then do a weighted lunge instead. Not quite as total body, but I've got a shit back, and even with good form seems to fuck me up doing squats with any amount of weight.

[unsunghero]

Sorry boys, it turns out it’s not your diet that’s giving you diabetes

It’s time for a lifestyle change, and it’s not changing what you eat:

“In order of most to least micro-and-nano-plastic release, results found that the anal toy released the most particles”

[unsunghero]

Setup my weight bench in the barn yesterday.

Setup three templates, Chest/Shoulders - Back/Arms - Legs.

Picked 5/6 lifts for each template. I've never really lifted weights, I did it when I was in high school and we did it for sports but never really as an adult.

Doing my best to keep it simple here. I end up getting drowned in information when I try and optimize something new. I did the same thing with Piano, I started that and am doing decent but early on I really went over board on how to get started...instead of just starting.

Lifting is great for your bone health

When you lift weights your bones bend ever so slightly and when that happens your body goes “OH SHIT! Mah bones just almost bent a little! We need bone reinforcement, stat!” And it begins to grow new stronger bone tissue

I dunno the actual process, osteo-something. But exercise scientists say the best thing you can physically do for your bone health is lift

[unsunghero]

I've always *hated* squats, so I'll do deadlifts and then do a weighted lunge
.

Why do so many people here hate squats? Squats are great

Weighted lunges suck because lunges suck. I mean I do them, but I don’t like em

[unsunghero]

I would add Rows

Yeah I just bend over with a barbell, row that fucker back

Can also do with dumbbells too. Also with dumbbells over an inclined bench for upper back

[Lune]

Lifting is great for your bone health

When you lift weights your bones bend ever so slightly and when that happens your body goes “OH SHIT! Mah bones just almost bent a little! We need bone reinforcement, stat!” And it begins to grow new stronger bone tissue

I dunno the actual process, osteo-something. But exercise scientists say the best thing you can physically do for your bone health is lift

This is referred to as Wolff's Law (https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/books/NBK499863/#:~:text=Wolff's%20Law%20states%20that%20bones,str engthening%20of%20the%20cortical%20layer.)

The process is called osteogenesis.

The best thing you can do for your bone health is walk, due to how fibrocartilage works. The second best thing you can do is lift.

[unsunghero]

This is referred to as Wolff's Law (https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/books/NBK499863/#:~:text=Wolff's%20Law%20states%20that%20bones,str engthening%20of%20the%20cortical%20layer.)

The process is called osteogenesis.

The best thing you can do for your bone health is walk, due to how fibrocartilage works. The second best thing you can do is lift.

Ah, roger

[unsunghero]

Savage

[unsunghero]

https://i.ibb.co/Br4rpLg/IMG-3877.gif (https://imgbb.com/)

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https://i.ibb.co/bKBdFSQ/IMG-3878.gif (https://imgbb.com/)

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https://i.ibb.co/5YLLk1T/IMG-3880.jpg (https://imgbb.com/)

[unsunghero]

How it feels trying to get/stay in best ever cardio and strength shape when pushing 40

[unsunghero]

From FB:

The #BOOMchallenge must be to see how hard you can fall off

[unsunghero]

Found this interesting, good production value

For me, I have my own language: what I consider a “null” step whether running or speed hiking, is a step that produces no lactic acid and seems to consume no energy. Basically a free step. And at a certain pace, they all become free, which is what allows me to still hike on legs sore from previous day

But increase the pace, and to me the lactic acid is a “stack”, and there is an algorithm working in the muscle to dump off the bottom of the stack. So either the stack is being built too fast, or else the pace is to where the entire stack can be dumped, essentially resetting the legs to neutral

But on a fast 400m, neither of these can happen

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=D0Zh0bT8OuM

[unsunghero]

^
I also really enjoy the luxury of pacing in distance runs. I have always been pretty good at going near hardest in the last 1/3 to 1/4. I like to think of it as the morale breaker, for anyone who might be behind me catching up ;)

[Kaveh]

^
I also really enjoy the luxury of pacing in distance runs. I have always been pretty good at going near hardest in the last 1/3 to 1/4. I like to think of it as the morale breaker, for anyone who might be behind me catching up ;)

That’s how I ran too, saving the speed for the end

[booter]

For me, I have my own language: what I consider a “null” step whether running or speed hiking, is a step that produces no lactic acid and seems to consume no energy. Basically a free step.



there is a technique in mountaineering we use all the time called the "rest step" it is pretty similar to what you are describing

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rest_step

[Swish]

^
I also really enjoy the luxury of pacing in distance runs. I have always been pretty good at going near hardest in the last 1/3 to 1/4. I like to think of it as the morale breaker, for anyone who might be behind me catching up ;)

Negative split should be in every runner's routine <3

[Homesteaded]

Unsung banned?! So many of my favorites have fallen to the ban hammer around here. Has he reincarnated yet?

[booter]

people just need to act like reasonable adults, but most terminally online 100+ posts/day users on a 24year old elf sim forum are likely not very well-adjusted individuals

all you gotta do is stick to your dog whistles and you'll be fine

it's only posting literal racist things, hate speech, or threats/doxing that will get you banned

and if you disagree with the above sentence, please see:

https://i.imgur.com/PehAaXE.png

hint: pretty much only posters of one political slant find themselves constantly posting things like this and reaping the consequences. i'm sure even unsung knows it.

[aussenseiter]

Unsung banned?! So many of my favorites have fallen to the ban hammer around here. Has he reincarnated yet?

I think he got banned on purpose, probably to spend more time at the gym.

Highly doubt a mod was actually stalking him but who knows.

[Ooloo]

It's only if you violently rape\argue with\lovingly pamper your wife that we moral people consider you unclean.

Why's it so hard to abide by our rules?

[Ooloo]

Luckily, unsunghero was only allowed to make 11,000 posts.

Thank god we never saw the next one. Can you imagine??! It might be as horrifying as israel not wanting to be genocided forever from the planet.

[Toxigen]

id love to see the post(s) that warranted the ban

prob pretty light duty

free speech is gone

[Trexller]

but most terminally online 100+ posts/day users on a 24year old elf sim forum are likely not very well-adjusted individuals

whats worse?

the troll who posts 100+ a day

or the person who stares at a 24 year old elf sim forum all day long to pounce on the poster they deem unworthy

this is a game like any other

but I can assure you, the IRL circumstances of an individual who chooses this role are not favorable.

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[Swish]

Ooloo Ooloo is offline
Banned


Join Date: May 2021
Posts: 4,030

Dropping like flies tonight.

[Origen]

o7 ooloo, he died doing what he loved, being wrong and rephrasing tired ben shapiro garbage

[Homesteaded]

hint: pretty much only posters of one political slant find themselves constantly posting things like this and reaping the consequences. i'm sure even unsung knows it.

Ahh yes, one political party is the reason we can't have nice things. If only they would do exactly as I wish. THEN we would achieve eutopia. What should we do with these scoundrels?

[arvidez]

whats worse?

the troll who posts 100+ a day

or the person who stares at a 24 year old elf sim forum all day long to pounce on the poster they deem unworthy

this is a game like any other

but I can assure you, the IRL circumstances of an individual who chooses this role are not favorable.

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ooh i know which one is worse.. happy jesus is a jerk

[Origen]

Ahh yes, one political party is the reason we can't have nice things. If only they would do exactly as I wish. THEN we would achieve eutopia. What should we do with these scoundrels?booter would probably be nicer to you alt-right boys than i would

[arvidez]

booter would probably be nicer to you alt-right boys than i would

don't think they'd notice

[Homesteaded]

Origen not being banned is proof that the bias is there.

[booter]

how? as far as I know he actually hasn't posted anything that's bannable like hate speech, racism, and bigotry targeting real-life groups (see here- https://project1999.com/forums/showthread.php?t=426330 ) if he has, please report it and it would be a well-deserved ban.

did he condemn a specific terror act? no, but that's not bannable. nobody is forced to post anything against their will or make any sort of claim.

it was certainly a successful troll too. look at the body count of banned posters.

people posting literal unhinged racist shit get banned and deserve it. please try a bit of introspection.

[aussenseiter]

how? as far as I know he actually hasn't posted anything that's bannable like hate speech, racism, and bigotry targeting real-life groups (see here- https://project1999.com/forums/showthread.php?t=426330 ) if he has, please report it and it would be a well-deserved ban.

did he condemn a specific terror act? no, but that's not bannable. nobody is forced to post anything against their will or make any sort of claim.

it was certainly a successful troll too. look at the body count of banned posters.

people posting literal unhinged racist shit get banned and deserve it. please try a bit of introspection.

Here go

Jihadi Rob says Free Palestine, lmao, you manboys just cannot process your futility.

[Seducio]

how? as far as I know he actually hasn't posted anything that's bannable like hate speech, racism, and bigotry targeting real-life groups (see here- https://project1999.com/forums/showthread.php?t=426330 ) if he has, please report it and it would be a well-deserved ban.

did he condemn a specific terror act? no, but that's not bannable. nobody is forced to post anything against their will or make any sort of claim.

it was certainly a successful troll too. look at the body count of banned posters.

people posting literal unhinged racist shit get banned and deserve it. please try a bit of introspection.

booter. I have defended you in the past. Origen is by far the most racist poster on these boards. Consistently. You are simply wrong on this one, booter.

It doesn't appear there is honesty happening on your part with regard to Origen. This is a choice you are making. Others can see through it.

That is all.

[arvidez]

he farts in the elevator and revels in the retching... u r right, not illegal

[booter]

booter. I have defended you in the past. Origen is by far the most racist poster on these boards. Consistently. You are simply wrong on this one, booter.

It doesn't appear there is honesty happening on your part with regard to Origen. This is a choice you are making. Others can see through it.

That is all.

all anyone has to do is show the post where he is racist, uses hate speech, or bigotry targeting real-life groups. nobody has done that so far. you all have a very emotional response to his posting and have these claims about what he is saying, but never provide proof -- or he would be banned.