14 Children and Teacher Killed in Texas Elementary School Shooting

[Mblake1981]

Very old design that wasn't a sticker on anyone's old trucks back in the day, at least not in any large amount. Rednecks couldn't display a symbol to rile up their political-counterparts, other than a shotgun rack which were common once.

You know, that is a terrible trade. A shotgun rack is far superior compared to a AR15/M16 sticker for cool dude points.

https://i.imgur.com/nPRiKJy.png

[Jibartik]

Satan made it so gods covenant (the rainbow) was gay pride flag and he made it so the democrat civil war flag represented the racist conservatives.

guy is a master flag maker.

[Mblake1981]

Traded my Shotgun/Fire Axe combo rack for this sticker.

Edit:

Now I know why you high-brow motherfuckers laugh so hard at these guys on the highway. You see a sticker like this but no shotgun rack in the back window..

https://i.imgur.com/TOlIZkg.jpg

(lol)

[$60-80 thousand dollar luxury truck with independent suspension and heated Starbucks cup holders]

Couldn't reach the back window if you wanted since trucks are Quad-Ultra-Mega-Super Duper Cabs.
(with ass-clenching heated/cooled bucket seats)

My unironic dream truck: Early 80s Ford F/Diesel 4x4 - Manual.

https://i.imgur.com/FFcmhQT.jpg

[Duik]

Maybe he stores his guns in a gun rack other knobs cant see. So as to not show off. But what a suprise youd get if u assumed no (exposed) gun rack meant no guns on board.
Lolocaust.
Suprise cockbag!

Edit bit.
Do ballistic vests go out of date?
Is it true in 2018 that state police where the recent school shooting took place were given, for want of a better word bullet proof vests?
Questions need answers.

[starkind]

Everything has been designed so civilians aka civilization is dependent and at the mercy of the factory. Those factories are satanic. Most are not in US even. Hth.

[starkind]

There is a housing insurance crisis where I live because hurricanes be crazy and 90% of houses don't meet code or are old like from 1955 old.

Also rich ppl hoping to grab up condemned and abandoned properties.


It's extremely disconcerting for the government to be disarming us right now..

Yall know me I hate seeing kids die for any reason. Yet we should all be in highly organized militias and our government is bad.

[starkind]

When the rules favor the 10% so extremely or ppl who only pretend to live in the US who really have private island, yachts, and multiple properties in several countries. Instead of the mechanic down at the local garage, which is owned by international firms btw Instead of the guy.

You aren't going to save children by turning Americans into defenseless refugees.

[starkind]

Maybe he stores his guns in a gun rack other knobs cant see. So as to not show off. But what a suprise youd get if u assumed no (exposed) gun rack meant no guns on board.
Lolocaust.
Suprise cockbag!

Edit bit.
Do ballistic vests go out of date?
Is it true in 2018 that state police where the recent school shooting took place were given, for want of a better word bullet proof vests?
Questions need answers.

In Louisiana teachers aren't even allowed to wear body Armor let alone the government cracking down on sale across states. That's another issue.

[Danth]

Edit bit.
Do ballistic vests go out of date?
Is it true in 2018 that state police where the recent school shooting took place were given, for want of a better word bullet proof vests?
Questions need answers.

Vests aren't all the same and different ones give different levels of protection. The large majority of vests used in daily wear by law enforcement are going to be designed to be proof against commonly-encountered pistol rounds--9mm, .45's, and the like. I never wore one that was proof against more than something like a magnum. A rifle round would've gone right through them. High-power rifles are a different animal entirely, with dramatically greater penetration. They'll shoot through cinderblock walls. Body armor that can resist such rounds exists, but unless things have greatly changed in the past 5-10 years, it's seldom worn on the street due to bulk and discomfort. It's hot and miserable. Even where armor can resist those types of rounds the person wearing it is still likely to be injured from the blunt force of the impact.

Danth

[starkind]

Civvies should be allowed to wear buy and sell the variety Danth talks about at all times. Dumb it's so restricted.

There's some prohibitively expensive coats and dresses extremely in*famous* ppl can afford and get permitted for that are slightly more effective. They're illegal without permits tho.

Anyway the average firepower, protection, and training of the average citizen is laughably limited already.

A full scale rebellion would be put down extremely fast unless enough regular army defected. And that's different than a rebellion. That's a civil war which would be more likely. Yet still very unlikely.

[unsunghero]

Joe Biden apparently wants to ban 9mm now

He said the 9mm bullet “blows the lung out of the body” when compared to a 22 round and questions why it’s needed

I think this might be why US politicians with no police or military experience probably shouldn’t comment on this kind of stuff. I’m far from a gun expert but I’m pretty sure people AND police use higher caliber rounds because they STOP the target and knock it back. If a person was charging you with a knife and got just a few feet away, shooting him with a .22 could still result in you being stabbed and then both of you dying. But shooting with a higher caliber round might completely stop that charge

That’s how it’s been explained to me, maybe someone should explain it to Joe Biden. This is the same tactical brainiac that said before after police negatively mentioned in the news that police should stop shooting for center mass and instead “shoot for the leg”. Why not shoot the gun out of the other person’s hand then, Joe?

[Mblake1981]

Maybe he stores his guns in a gun rack other knobs cant see. So as to not show off.

When a penal colonist/ bush man tries to comprehend your southern ways but fails miserably.

Now I know why you high-brow motherfuckers laugh so hard at these guys on the highway. You see a sticker like this but no shotgun rack in the back window..

[Mblake1981]

Joe Biden apparently wants to ban 9mm now

He said the 9mm bullet “blows the lung out of the body” when compared to a 22 round and questions why it’s needed

I think this might be why US politicians with no police or military experience probably shouldn’t comment on this kind of stuff.

Very useful to corruption. You could make a lot of money, live in a nice house.

[unsunghero]

To show how little stopping power a small caliber round has, here’s a person who police don’t realize has been shot in the face and brain by a small caliber round

He completes the entire interrogation (where police think he and not the person who shot him is the one who killed his girlfriend), then dies right after

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=4qMcCXOnEYY

[Mblake1981]

Civvies should be allowed to wear buy and sell the variety Danth talks about at all times. Dumb it's so restricted.

There's some prohibitively expensive coats and dresses extremely in*famous* ppl can afford and get permitted for that are slightly more effective. They're illegal without permits tho.

Anyway the average firepower, protection, and training of the average citizen is laughably limited already.

A full scale rebellion would be put down extremely fast unless enough regular army defected. And that's different than a rebellion. That's a civil war which would be more likely. Yet still very unlikely.

People from my culture: [had a shotgun rack] - no one batted an eye

Foreign people commenting on my culture: "OMG ROFL THE SKY IS BURNING OMG ITS CIVIL UNREST OMG MILITARY WEAPONS OMG RUSSIAN HAX OMG UKRAINE OMG STARBUCKS IS ON FIRE!! OMG OLD GRANDPAS ARE JOHN RAMBO OMG BLOOD AND GUTS OMG ARE WE FUCKING CRAZY OMG MENTAL HEALTH OMG"

People from my culture: What the fuck is that!?..

[Danth]

That’s how it’s been explained to me

That's how I was trained, too. A .22LR can be nearly as lethal as some larger rounds because head shots and the like are going to drop someone regardless, but--hollywood lies be damned--most shootings aren't fatal, and if that .22 doesn't actually kill the target, odds are the target is still attacking. Consequently you really want to avoid the very small cartridges unless you have no choice. Once you get to about .380, all of the popular pistol rounds--.380, 9mm, .38 special, .40, .45--offer basically similar success rates at stopping an aggressor and there's not much of a jump up until you get to stuff like .357 and .44 magnums.

Back then very small rounds, .22 range or below, could be a special threat because they would sometimes separate through the kevlar weave in ballistic vests when a nominally more powerful but physically larger round would be stopped. That made the Five-Seven a unique and special threat, albeit a very rarely encountered one. I've been told that more modern vests do a better job at stopping those types of rounds.

A lot of the trouble with firearms in this country stems from the reality that too many folks base most of their gun knowledge on hollywood productions, which are almost entirely lies even down to the sound effects uses. There are people who've been shot at and didn't realize it because they expect it to sound like the cannon fire guns are usually dubbed with in movies and not the little firecracker pop-pop-pop sounds that auto pistols actually make.

Note that there is a very, very large difference between a .22LR and a .223. Calibers only tell you more or less the diameter of the bullet, not even its mass and certainly not the amount of force behind it.

Danth

[starkind]

To show how little stopping power a small caliber round has, here’s a person who police don’t realize has been shot in the face and brain by a small caliber round

He completes the entire interrogation (where police think he and not the person who shot him is the one who killed his girlfriend), then dies right after

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=4qMcCXOnEYY

There ya go lol. Good one 👍

Still love the police wish we had more and low brow thug drug life was frowned upon.

[Reiwa]

A lot of the trouble with firearms in this country stems from the reality that too many folks base most of their gun knowledge on hollywood productions

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[starkind]

People from my culture: [had a shotgun rack] - no one batted an eye

Foreign people commenting on my culture: "OMG ROFL THE SKY IS BURNING OMG ITS CIVIL UNREST OMG MILITARY WEAPONS OMG RUSSIAN HAX OMG UKRAINE OMG STARBUCKS IS ON FIRE!! OMG OLD GRANDPAS ARE JOHN RAMBO OMG BLOOD AND GUTS OMG ARE WE FUCKING CRAZY OMG MENTAL HEALTH OMG"

People from my culture: What the fuck is that!?..

Yeah man. Well Starbucks bruh. (I am not bruhhing u I know u don't like that, figure of speech).

We are pretty fucked tho cuz corps like Walmart and economy must go brrrr so ppl lose their autonomy.

My city was nicer when the pop was literally 20k in the summer. It's now over 200,000 all year and the farms, groves, are dying, gone. Just hanging on the periphery. Our food plants shut down replaced with Walmarts, trailer parks, meth, and 500,000 homes on the main commuter route. All these used to be groves, cattle farms. Our blm land isn't for hunters or hikers anymore It's for big corps. They got projects out there clear cutting and shit. It's all gone to hell and fenced off.

Real Americans don't own or run anything here. Just lazy middle managers and administrators on the dole who won the syndication lottery or got family ties to big China plastic crap.

We got a few individual ppl hanging on on the edges where it's commercial, residential, they can't grow their businesses tho.

[Jibartik]

This is what it’s like for a fat woman when she’s pregnant why do you guys want to control plus sized women’s bodies.

To show how little stopping power a small caliber round has, here’s a person who police don’t realize has been shot in the face and brain by a small caliber round

He completes the entire interrogation (where police think he and not the person who shot him is the one who killed his girlfriend), then dies right after

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=4qMcCXOnEYY

[unsunghero]

That's how I was trained, too. A .22LR can be nearly as lethal as some larger rounds because head shots and the like are going to drop someone regardless, but--hollywood lies be damned--most shootings aren't fatal, and if that .22 doesn't actually kill the target, odds are the target is still attacking. Consequently you really want to avoid the very small cartridges unless you have no choice. Once you get to about .380, all of the popular pistol rounds--.380, 9mm, .38 special, .40, .45--offer basically similar success rates at stopping an aggressor and there's not much of a jump up until you get to stuff like .357 and .44 magnums.

Back then very small rounds, .22 range or below, could be a special threat because they would sometimes separate through the kevlar weave in ballistic vests when a nominally more powerful but physically larger round would be stopped. That made the Five-Seven a unique and special threat, albeit a very rarely encountered one. I've been told that more modern vests do a better job at stopping those types of rounds.

A lot of the trouble with firearms in this country stems from the reality that too many folks base most of their gun knowledge on hollywood productions, which are almost entirely lies even down to the sound effects uses. There are people who've been shot at and didn't realize it because they expect it to sound like the cannon fire guns are usually dubbed with in movies and not the little firecracker pop-pop-pop sounds that auto pistols actually make.

Note that there is a very, very large difference between a .22LR and a .223. Calibers only tell you more or less the diameter of the bullet, not even its mass and certainly not the amount of force behind it.

Danth

Ah k this is good to know. I didn’t even remember the term for the amount of gunpowder in the bullet, shows how much I know about guns :/

[Mblake1981]

We watched those.. watcha call em.. "Faces of Death" is what I always remember but when i look it up it isn't right. Anyway, we got them from the (vhs) movie rental stores locally when we were kids. Edit note: This was also when America took a real honest pride in saying Fuck You to the rest of the world and proudly displayed items that were banned in other countries.

People chopping the hands and feet off militia men with a machette then wrapping the stumps in plastic grocery bags. With footage of the person after crying and moaning with their stumps.

Lived with those images practically my whole life now, don't get off on that shit.

[starkind]

Why were ppl shooting him and his GF?

[unsunghero]

We watched those.. watcha call em.. "Faces of Death" is what I always remember but when i look it up it isn't right. Anyway, we got them from the (vhs) movie rental stores locally when we were kids. Edit note: This was also when America took a real honest pride in saying Fuck You to the rest of the world and proudly displayed items that were banned in other countries.

People chopping the hands and feet off militia men with a machette then wrapping the stumps in plastic grocery bags. With footage of the person after crying and moaning with their stumps.

Lived with those images practically my whole life now, don't get off on that shit.

Yeah similar to those scenarios there were these 2 early 20’s girls who went backpacking in Morocco, and previous to this they had been posting on social media how everyone was inherently good and the world is full of good people and just flowery stuff like that

They were beheaded by wanna-be ISIS fighters and that was captured on video. I refuse to watch the video but in the news and in the comments to the story people were calling these girls tragically “naive”

I personally don’t understand how these girl’s generation can grow up so naive with such easy access to the internet. When I was a kid the internet had just come out, and I would go to my grandparents’ house to go on it. It didn’t have filters back then and it wasn’t long until like 10yr old me had stumbled onto sites like Rotten.com and Ogrish.com which had videos of people being set on fire while alive, beheaded, or cut to pieces with machetes

The internet sort of traumatized me as a little kid and that’s when the pedestal of innocence was kicked out from under me. That’s when I realized the world was full of fucked up and dangerous people and going into the wrong part of it meant possible torture and a horrible death

I think anyone who grows up as naive as those girls were must have had parents who sheltered them from the dark corners of the internet. And that’s great to do with your kids, but you need to explain the danger some other way then…

[Danth]

I personally don’t understand how these girl’s generation can grow up so naive

You'll only learn things if you want to learn. The best lessons in the world will be lost on an audience who doesn't want to listen.

Ah k this is good to know. I didn’t even remember the term for the amount of gunpowder in the bullet, shows how much I know about guns :/

Really those types of details don't matter overmuch for a discussion like this. Any citizen of this nation, however, owes it to himself to have at least enough familiarity with firearms that he can pick up a random gun, and tell either that it's safe or if need be make it so. To do that you don't necessarily need to know the difference between a 9mm and a .38 special, but you do need to know the difference between a revolver and an automatic and how each of them tend to work.

[starkind]

The pedestal of innocence was kicked out from under me. That’s when I realized the world was full of fucked up and dangerous..

5 years old. We start training at 5 years old. We don't even hide the truth from anyone at any age. The discipline starts as soon as possible though. And the tests and trials at 5.

Those who are dishonorable and disabled and fail lose their rights. It's game over. Life is too fragile to cut anyone of any demographic or class or ability any slack whatsoever.

[Jibartik]

This show is the best.

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[Mblake1981]

5 years old. We start training at 5 years old. We don't even hide the truth from anyone at any age. The discipline starts as soon as possible though. And the tests and trials at 5.

Those who are dishonorable and disabled and fail lose their rights. It's game over. Life is too fragile to cut anyone of any demographic or class or ability any slack whatsoever.

Speaking of cutting..

[starkind]

Speaking of cutting..

I'm ready.

*doubles over in agony*

No don't post that suicide gif. Suicide is not the Christian way.

[Duik]

Vests aren't all the same and different ones give different levels of protection. The large majority of vests used in daily wear by law enforcement are going to be designed to be proof against commonly-encountered pistol rounds--9mm, .45's, and the like. I never wore one that was proof against more than something like a magnum. A rifle round would've gone right through them. High-power rifles are a different animal entirely, with dramatically greater penetration. They'll shoot through cinderblock walls. Body armor that can resist such rounds exists, but unless things have greatly changed in the past 5-10 years, it's seldom worn on the street due to bulk and discomfort. It's hot and miserable. Even where armor can resist those types of rounds the person wearing it is still likely to be injured from the blunt force of the impact.

Danth

Deflect. Waa waa waa, answered the question not. Anywho.
So we had cops complaining they had no gear. Cant go in.
Volunteer law abiding parents trying to use their courage to save their kids hindered and actively stopped from being the good guy with a gun. (Just like you all want and constantly rave about why yas need guns. Agree btw)
As stated before. Off duty, and unarmored, with a borrowed gun was more use. And was not hindered.
You guys be crazy defending these cops. And i know, the cops dont hafta defend you. But did they have to hinder?
Anywho, blah blah body armor is no good. We need guns to protect ourselves fro da gubbament. Libtards suck and NRA wanna protect kids by arming teachers with no body armor... circle begins.

[Danth]

Anywho, blah blah body armor is no good. We need guns to protect ourselves fro da gubbament. Libtards suck and NRA wanna protect kids by arming teachers with no body armor... circle begins.

What on Earth? I type a little bit about vests and that's what you get out of it? How? Is there some sort of alternate universe you're posting from? It doesn't make sense! I don't particularly want to arm anyone (heck in another post I openly advocate for dis-arming the police and federal law enforcement, and I meant it) and I sure as heck don't want to turn schools into defacto prisons or armed camps. How the heck are you supposed to bring up people to value freedom and liberty when they've spent their entire childhood locked up and treated like inmates?


Danth

[Horza]

A teacher did not, as previously stated, leave a door propped open with a rock during the massacre at Robb elementary school in Uvalde, Texas, last week, but closed it before the attacks began, only for the door to not automatically lock, Texas state investigators said. (https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2022/jun/01/texas-school-shooting-propped-open-door-closed-teacher)

Shithole state you've got there.

[unsunghero]

A teacher did not, as previously stated, leave a door propped open with a rock during the massacre at Robb elementary school in Uvalde, Texas, last week, but closed it before the attacks began, only for the door to not automatically lock, Texas state investigators said. (https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2022/jun/01/texas-school-shooting-propped-open-door-closed-teacher)

Shithole state you've got there.

“She remembers pulling the door closed while telling 911 that he was shooting.”

- Oh so it’s just her personal recollection? There’s no video?

More like… “she remembers not wanting to get reamed for the rest of her life for her safety negligence, and how to lie about it now”

Jk this is just the cynic in me

[Horza]

Yeah, like yourself I also believe the police who stood there for 100 minutes and threatened any parents who tried to save their kids.

The finding, released by Texas department of public safety on Tuesday, contradicts an earlier account in which they said a teacher had propped the door open shortly before Salvador Ramos, 18, entered the building. The door, he said, was designed to lock when shut, but did not. “We did verify she closed the door. The door did not lock. We know that much and now investigators are looking into why it did not lock,” Considine said.

[robayon]

Yeah, like yourself I also believe the police who stood there for 100 minutes and threatened any parents who tried to save their kids.That entire situation is a decent argument for regular people to carry weapons

You either use it on the badguy killing your kids or the useless pigs preventing you from using it on the badguy to save your kids

[unsunghero]

Yeah, like yourself I also believe the police who stood there for 100 minutes and threatened any parents who tried to save their kids.

Everyone involved is in CYA (cover your ass) mode now. I hope the victim’s families hold their feet to the fire

[Mblake1981]

What on Earth? I type a little bit about vests and that's what you get out of it? How? Is there some sort of alternate universe you're posting from?

Crickey! hold still mate..

https://i.imgur.com/IbLJmSV.jpg

[starkind]

We should not need to lock schools down like prisons.

[Jibartik]

Yeah, like yourself I also believe the police who stood there for 100 minutes and threatened any parents who tried to save their kids.

this why we need 2a and guns, cops wont be there to save you

[Duik]

this why we need 2a and guns, cops wont be there to save you

But they will ACTIVELY stop you. And hide behind, whatever fucked up rules they can.
Im closing. Ya need guns, but yaa cant usem when ya needem. Can that bit be fixed? For your collective sanity?

[Mblake1981]

But they will ACTIVELY stop you. And hide behind, whatever fucked up rules they can.
Im closing. Ya need guns, but yaa cant usem when ya needem. Can that bit be fixed? For your collective sanity?

https://i.imgur.com/ALoRxgk.png

[Duik]

Mblake.
You funny. No wonder yas are fucked. Even when you agree with something, ya cant. Good luck with ya circle boys amd girls.

[Duik]

Mmm VB.
But, I prefer Great Northern.
Might go get me a shooter. Oh sorry. Too soon?

[Duik]

Triple rage post.
Earth is flat ya dumb fuck. So yeah gnow juan upside down.
Fucken clown me. Ill fucken squirt ya wif my real lookin flower lapel.

[starkind]

Mblake.
You funny. No wonder yas are fucked. Even when you agree with something, ya cant. Good luck with ya circle boys amd girls.

Mmm VB.
But, I prefer Great Northern.
Might go get me a shooter. Oh sorry. Too soon?

Triple rage post.
Earth is flat ya dumb fuck. So yeah gnow juan upside down.
Fucken clown me. Ill fucken squirt ya wif my real lookin flower lapel.

Take a deep breath. And put on some soothing atmospheric music in a cool quiet dark place.

[Duik]

I believe the squirty clown flower did do done that.
Try again.

[starkind]

Duik.

Hate is not the way.

https://i.imgur.com/CLfUIlD.jpeg

[peterpal]

Ohio Senate voted 23-9 to pass House Bill 99, allowing teachers or other school staff to carry guns in school (https://www.nbc4i.com/news/local-news/columbus/guns-for-teachers-ohio-senate-passes-bill/)

Put some more burden on the teachers and pay them less. What could go wrong?

What's going to happen first? Make your bets


1. teacher shoots random student
2. student shoots student
3. teacher shoots teacher
4. student shoots teacher
5. student shoots himself
6. teacher shoots himself
7. teacher stops mass shooting

[Reiwa]

Ohio Senate voted 23-9 to pass House Bill 99, allowing teachers or other school staff to carry guns in school (https://www.nbc4i.com/news/local-news/columbus/guns-for-teachers-ohio-senate-passes-bill/)

Put some more burden on the teachers and pay them less. What could go wrong?

What's going to happen first? Make your bets


1. teacher shoots random student
2. student shoots student
3. teacher shoots teacher
4. student shoots teacher
5. student shoots himself
6. teacher shoots himself
7. teacher stops mass shooting

Probably not random. 🖤

[starkind]

8. Teacher shoots governer or district super intendenent or whatever school board ppls?

NOTE I AM NOT *COUGH* NOT I CAN'T STRESS THIS ENOUGH NOT ADVOCATING VIOLENCE AGAINST GOVERNMENT OFFICIALS.

9. Maybe the principle gets it.

We had some spicey stuff in FL here where the principle was like 'man I gotta toe the party line I just want kids to learn math' and ppl got real mad at eachother on both sides

10. teacher vs parent

11. parent vs teacher (they had a gun on them! i felt threatened!)

Karens X guns x antidepressents and mania x a blood sugar crash from starbucks coffee what a rodeo

teacher on field trip to seaworld x poor blackfish :( :( :( at least it would be a mercy (also not advocating this ecoterrorism is bad and the orcas life is sacred anyway)

Murder bad.

********** Disclaimer this isn't a post advocating gun control. We probably need to let this play out. Good Christians will probably not shoot each other over dumb shit.

[robayon]

I think potentially arming teachers and underpaying them are all part of the same culture war shit the right has been doing for decades now

It will assure only the dumbest teachers remain, giving them more excuses to cut public education and make it so only rich people can afford education at all for their brats

A whole flock of birds and a single stone

It's banal and nihilistic but they're good at actualizing their cursed ideas. Never let a good crisis go to waste

[starkind]

Eventually having a poorly educated armed drugged up and disgruntled sickly slavish spiritually empty or demonically possessed rabble propping up the house of cards will backfire and fail spectacularly.

BTW I am not saying Republicans are this by default. Plenty of BLM and Antifa types qualify aswell. I'm speaking of the majority demographic of G-dless Americans living as debtors which falls across party lines.

In fact if you don't outright own your home and land or have a lean against it you should be considered a homeless vagrant. By the government. And have your rights to bare arms and buy expensive luxury items, drugs and hotdogs curtailed.

[Jibartik]

sounds like what we need to be doing is arming doctors amiright?

https://i.imgur.com/FevnvPX.gif

[starkind]

sounds like what we need to be doing is arming doctors amiright?

https://i.imgur.com/FevnvPX.gif

Who's this funny guy. I'm poorly educated. Not compared with most refugees tho

[starkind]

Google lense says groucho marx

Googling

Will be an expert (https://imgur.com/gallery/hyZvzc1) soon.

[Reiwa]

Google lense says groucho marx

Googling

Will be an expert (https://imgur.com/gallery/hyZvzc1) soon.

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[peterpal]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/909829041043951660/981976145429934120/unknown.png

[robayon]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/909829041043951660/981976145429934120/unknown.pngbleak but absolutely correct

[unsunghero]

Arming teachers is weird. We don’t arm our nurses at hospitals or our day care workers. Or our politicians. We hire security for them or those areas if needed

Security focuses on security. Teachers focus on teaching. It’s pretty simple

Either that or put up more This is Gun Free Zone signs. Those seem to be working really well

[starkind]

Arming teachers is weird. We don’t arm our nurses at hospitals or our day care workers. Or our politicians. We hire security for them or those areas if needed

Security focuses on security. Teachers focus on teaching. It’s pretty simple

Either that or put up more This is Gun Free Zone signs. Those seem to be working really well

We should tho. Several shootings at my nearest hospital. Mostly domestic stuff being the motivation. Innocent bystanders hit and killed tho.

Isreal and Afghanistan is safer to live in. Lol.

The reality is that America is a warzone. It's impossible for law and order here because the police can't do it on their own and we let people get away with bullshit and families don't look out for eachother. Like if someone is a drug addict or rapist or abuser. Or straight up lies, cheats, and steals, especially from their own. Gotta call police. Who don't do shit. Head of the family... checked out in their lawn chairs. No fathers. Grandfather's. Chiefs. No religious leaders calling the shots when a 13 yr old boy or girl gets oughta line. Got to be able to shut that shit down and set an example for the village.

Honestly just dissolve the family unit altogether and implement the UCMJ and ranks.

[Horza]

We should tho. Several shootings at my nearest hospital. Mostly domestic stuff being the motivation. Innocent bystanders hit and killed tho.

Isreal and Afghanistan is safer to live in. Lol.

Possible Trump 2024 slogan: Give the Nurses M4s.

[starkind]

Possible Trump 2024 slogan: Give the Nurses M4s.

Mp5s

Uzi got anything new going on?

[Reiwa]

Arming teachers is weird. We don’t arm our nurses at hospitals or our day care workers. Or our politicians. We hire security for them or those areas if needed

Security focuses on security. Teachers focus on teaching. It’s pretty simple

Either that or put up more This is Gun Free Zone signs. Those seem to be working really well

Public or private security? Private gets big bucks if they're expected to risk taking bullets.

[starkind]

Well it's clear kids can use the weapons effectively and efficiently so just let them be their own security 🤷

Maybe also medic training in 6th and 7th grade.

[unsunghero]

Public or private security? Private gets big bucks if they're expected to risk taking bullets.

If it’s a public school I imagine it would be public security

Teachers can’t teach and do security at the same time. Someone looking for threats is more likely to spot a threat than someone talking about their sexuality (huehuehuehue)

[robayon]

Deploying the National Guard to all public schools, peak Normal Country behavior

[Reiwa]

If it’s a public school I imagine it would be public security

Isn't that called the police? :p

[Mblake1981]

Isn't that called the police? :p

We never had them on site during my time, my sister is 12 years younger than me and she was forced to wear the lanyard.

Gross culture is gross

[starkind]

Little Mormon school was pretty chill.

Someone stabbed someone in my brother's HS tho. I think they where a gangsta from cali.

[unsunghero]

Isn't that called the police? :p

Er, wait, what security guards like courthouses? They are security guards not police, I have to deal with their metal detectors sometimes in my job

And if we are talking private security, I don’t think it’s terribly expensive based on their pay. Private security guard is like an entry level position pay-wise I believe (for a business). A lot of them aren’t even armed, although at a school they should probably be, sadly

[Reiwa]

Er, wait, what security guards like courthouses? They are security guards not police, I have to deal with their metal detectors sometimes in my job

And if we are talking private security, I don’t think it’s terribly expensive based on their pay. Private security guard is like an entry level position pay-wise I believe (for a business). A lot of them aren’t even armed, although at a school they should probably be, sadly

If the police won't face gunfire, why would a lower paid and benefitted rentacop?

(Hurroo, hurroo (https://youtu.be/wFUTHcjiZGo))

[unsunghero]

If the police won't face gunfire, why would a lower paid and benefitted rentacop?

(Hurroo, hurroo (https://youtu.be/wFUTHcjiZGo))

It depends on the individual. Put more armed trained warm bodies on the scene and hope that one has the courage to confront, I dunno

Not only do you get to end hearing children screaming and dying but you become a hero, some perks to trying above just being paid to. Plus you could earn some kinds of accolades like key to the city or a medal or somethin

Also I think a security guard would be able to make their own decision rather than follow PD Captain Incompetent’s orders but I could be wrong on that

[Reiwa]

It depends on the individual. Put more armed trained warm bodies on the scene and hope that one has the courage to confront, I dunno

Not only do you get to end hearing children screaming and dying but you become a hero, some perks to trying above just being paid to. Plus you could earn some kinds of accolades like key to the city or a medal or somethin

Also I think a security guard would be able to make their own decision rather than follow PD Captain Incompetent’s orders but I could be wrong on that

The license bond for armed private security in schools would be tremendous.

[unsunghero]

The license bond for armed private security in schools would be tremendous.

Worth it though. You know me, my empathy grows with the total loss of potential years. 80yr olds at a nursing home, ehhh whatever happens happens. Little kids? Guard em!

[Reiwa]

Worth it though. You know me, my empathy grows with the total loss of potential years. 80yr olds at a nursing home, ehhh whatever happens happens. Little kids? Guard em!

I'm saying the guards couldn't afford it.

[unsunghero]

I'm saying the guards couldn't afford it.

Then use unlicensed ones. Still better than teachers or veteran volunteers which is surprisingly another silly idea I’ve heard offered

[starkind]

You gotta stop protecting bad ppl with the police and military.

Good guys will step in for free to do the right thing once you step oughta their way.

Veterans would be more than glad to watch over the liluns for Oatmeal cookies and some respect.

[Mblake1981]

Worth it though. You know me, my empathy grows with the total loss of potential years. 80yr olds at a nursing home, ehhh whatever happens happens. Little kids? Guard em!

catch 22 friend, shit-up their childhood or keep em safe. Eventually who is going to save them from safety?

[Reiwa]

Then use unlicensed ones. Still better than teachers or veteran volunteers which is surprisingly another silly idea I’ve heard offered

So if they screw up, they're personally liable?

And you think this won't be a high rate profession?

[Reiwa]

Annoyed so I'll go for awhile. 😇

[starkind]

So if they screw up, they're personally liable?

And you think this won't be a high rate profession?

If they screw up you call it the cost of doing business. At least one idiot is dead not 19 children.

And thats on their souls plus everyone else who signed the social contract.

[starkind]

Can't they just walk or take the same bus the kids do?

[unsunghero]

So if they screw up, they're personally liable?

And you think this won't be a high rate profession?

Wouldn’t the teachers be personally liable if they screwed up too?

I don’t care in what form the security comes tbh, just that its focus should be security, not trying to split the focus between security and teaching. Also I feel like teachers would have less security training

Oh and security would be wearing security uniforms. This could actually matter if a shooter was going through the school so a teacher whips out a gun in their plainclothes making them appear like the shooter so another teacher shoots them in confusion thinking they were the active shooter. This is why cops have uniforms

[starkind]

Everyone should have uniforms.

[Duik]

Anyone who lawfully has a gun be allowed unrestricted use during mass shootings. At schools, concerts, malls or anywhere really.
How you dummies even get to the point where "arm a teacher" becomes an offered option.
Now, given your "we allowed to have guns cuz gubba (government or deep state you pick) wants to take shit from us and to shoot the other cunt first who wants to shoot me, this should be a no brainer.
You have the tools at your disposal already.
Something just seems to be hindering (in some cases) the use of said tool.
Also, anger and hate are the way. Otherwise mass shootings wouldnt "work".
TLDR
Work out how to stop the (insert an entity here that uses force) to stifle the right to be the good guy with a gun.
Sounds pretty damn simple to the outside observer.
Tell me again dat world is upside down and imma glass ya wif my vb bottle.
The answer is there, nudging the surface but you guys love the drama. You dont want it fixed.

[starkind]

Anyone who lawfully has a gun be allowed unrestricted use during mass shootings. At schools, concerts, malls or anywhere really.
How you dummies even get to the point where "arm a teacher" becomes an offered option.
Now, given your "we allowed to have guns cuz gubba (government or deep state you pick) wants to take shit from us and to shoot the other cunt first who wants to shoot me, this should be a no brainer.
You have the tools at your disposal already.
Something just seems to be hindering (in some cases) the use of said tool.
Also, anger and hate are the way. Otherwise mass shootings wouldnt "work".
TLDR
Work out how to stop the (insert an entity here that uses force) to stifle the right to be the good guy with a gun.
Sounds pretty damn simple to the outside observer.
Tell me again dat world is upside down and imma glass ya wif my vb bottle.
The answer is there, nudging the surface but you guys love the drama. You dont want it fixed.

They really don't. Because it means honest work tbqfvh.

Oh and taking responsibility.

[unsunghero]

Anyone who lawfully has a gun be allowed unrestricted use during mass shootings. At schools, concerts, malls or anywhere really

While I agree, these are all gun free zones. Meaning no one but the shooter is legally going to have a gun in these environments

Friendly fire during the confusion of a mass shooting is my biggest concern in regards to arming everyone. If someone didn’t personally witness the original shooting, it would be very easy for them with adrenaline pumping to see someone running with a gun, assume they are the mass shooter, and shoot an innocent armed Good Samaritan who was just trying to help. And then maybe someone kills them next. And now you have a possible chain reaction of confused innocent people shooting at each other while the original mass shooter isn’t anywhere near there

[unsunghero]

People trampled each other, screamed, cried, and generally panicked at an airport after a gun accidentally went off once

These were all unarmed people, and 3 ended up getting hurt in the confusion. Now picture many of them being armed if you doubt the possibility of friendly fire

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=AURPSiINL_A

[Jibartik]

cool first world society

[Mblake1981]

Tell me again dat world is upside down and imma glass ya wif my vb bottle.

It wasn't unsunghero that told you that nor was it in regards to such a stupid argument. Mind yourself, boomerang-fucker.

[Duik]

Thats perception. Here, if a gun accidentally goes off we all dont duck thinking its happening again. We go wow johno should prolly do better at gunning.
In usa maybe the number of on purpose guns going off encourages that reaction.
I live rural. We have gun owners in town, roo/pig shooters, farmers, gun enthusiasts and prolly a few "unlawful" one as well. Farmer needs to cull bad animals or euthanize herd members. Roo shooter obvious need. Enthusiasts do what they do be it range sporting shooting whatever. We will hear a bang here and there. Dont mean an active shooter is loose here. Its possible i suppose, but thats what vb bottles are for (if the buggers will stay the fuck still).
Gunshot at a US airport. I challenge many of you NOT to duck and at least give a passing thought to ohh oh, shooter.

Cool story mblake. Boomerang fucker. Now ya getten nasty. No wait, that sounds good. Thanks for the heads up.
Also, Bawy Kwipky says you needa wewax.

[Reiwa]

If they screw up you call it the cost of doing business. At least one idiot is dead not 19 children.

And thats on their souls plus everyone else who signed the social contract.

Almost noone will take that job with low pay and high financial risk.

It's a really dumb idea but, they're only saying it to interrupt.

[unsunghero]

Almost noone will take that job with low pay and high financial risk.

It's a really dumb idea but, they're only saying it to interrupt.

Some people are volunteering to do it for free

[Reiwa]

Some people are volunteering to do it for free

At scale?

It's been like 10 minutes and I'm already angry again. I think I caught the Blake. 😾

[unsunghero]

Scale

It’s not quite as loud as the outcry to ban guns because it’s not backed by the establishment, but there has been a fairly loud outcry to increase security at schools

If people are actually serious about that, I’m sure they’ll figure out a way to deal with liability and costs

[Mblake1981]

Cool story mblake. Boomerang fucker. Now ya getten nasty. No wait, that sounds good. Thanks for the heads up.
Also, Bawy Kwipky says you needa wewax.

is this Crocodile Jane or did you slip and fall ass first

[Reiwa]

If people are actually serious about that, I’m sure they’ll figure out a way to figure out liability and costs

You are reinventing qualified immunity.

[unsunghero]

You are reinventing qualified immunity.

It never went away?

[Reiwa]

It never went away?

It's a copy. For non-cops.

[unsunghero]

It's a copy. For non-cops.

I’m fairly certain school security guards that are not cops/SRO’s also already exists

[Reiwa]

I’m fairly certain school security guards that are not cops/SRO’s also already exists

Armed and authorized?

[unsunghero]

Armed and authorized?

I dunno, you’re right I wouldn’t be too enticed to sign up by the pay though currently

[Reiwa]

I dunno, you’re right I wouldn’t be too enticed to sign up by the pay though currently

https://www.project1999.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=17893&stc=1&thumb=1&d=1654228834

Fringe benefits: lawsuits and jail

:p

[unsunghero]

Fringe benefits: lawsuits and jail

:p

Well I don’t care if it’s police, but 1 SRO for a school of 5,000 kids/staff is pretty ridiculous

I’ve been to some schools at my job where their SRO works for the district and isn’t even there at that time. Assuming those have literally no one for periods of time

[Reiwa]

Well I don’t care if it’s police, but 1 SRO for a school of 5,000 kids/staff is pretty ridiculous

I’ve been to some schools at my job where their SRO works for the district and isn’t even there at that time. Assuming those have literally no one for periods of time

There has to be some way to fix the regular policing rules to accomplish the task. Maybe higher taxes?

🤑

[unsunghero]

There has to be some way to fix the regular policing rules to accomplish the task. Maybe higher taxes?

🤑

IDC how it’s done, but it’s worth the money to increase security at schools

Why don’t people shoot up concerts as much, aside from the Vegas shooter who had a perch a few stories above?

I’m assuming because it’s harder to get a gun in there. If you could, man the carnage. All those packed people, one person with an hour to blast away thanks to incompetent police could kill over a hundred

And why is it harder? Better security

[Reiwa]

IDC how it’s done, but it’s worth the money to increase security at schools

Why don’t people shoot up concerts as much, aside from the Vegas shooter who had a perch a few stories above?

I’m assuming because it’s harder to get a gun in there. If you could, man the carnage. All those packed people, one person with an hour to blast away thanks to incompetent police could kill over a hundred

And why is it harder? Better security

Adults and children, profit and nonprofit.

[unsunghero]

Adults and children, profit and nonprofit.

So now costs matter to the infinite resource generator money printing utopia guy?

Where’s that “if it saves lives” spirit

[Kaveh]

Raise the age to purchase a firearm to 25 for males

Make it 35 for anyone with tattoos, poverty, obesity, or drugs in their extended lineage

[Reiwa]

So now costs matter to the infinite resource generator money printing utopia guy?

Where’s that “if it saves lives” spirit

This you?

Worth it though. You know me, my empathy grows with the total loss of potential years. 80yr olds at a nursing home, ehhh whatever happens happens. Little kids? Guard em!

[Mblake1981]

I dunno, you’re right I wouldn’t be too enticed to sign up by the pay though currently

Someone who thinks less of themselves probably needs to earn a living, what better way than be a bullet sponge for a society bent and twisted to the point it feeds off the kids.

[Mblake1981]

IDC how it’s done, but it’s worth the money to increase security at schools

You are overpaid.

[Duik]

is this Crocodile Jane or did you slip and fall ass first
Sometimes i fall arse first, sometimes head first. Depends on my center of balance and outside forces.
Wewax Kwipky.

[Mblake1981]

Sometimes i fall arse first, sometimes head first. Depends on my center of balance and outside forces.
Wewax Kwipky.

I see you've played knifey spooney before. I also like to type a whole bunch of words that do not mean anything, it's very quantum-woo.

[unsunghero]

You are overpaid.

I’ll get right to asking for less money next week I promise

[Kaveh]

Someone who thinks less of themselves probably needs to earn a living, what better way than be a bullet sponge for a society bent and twisted to the point it feeds off the kids.

Bent and twisted? Interesting diagnosis. How would you fix it?

[Trexller]

Raise the age to purchase a firearm to 25 for males

Make it 35 for anyone with tattoos, poverty, obesity, or drugs in their extended lineage

+1 to this

profiling is only racist to people who intend to commit crimes

[Jibartik]

anybody suggest investing in boys & girls club? no? ok back to taking your rights away then.

[unsunghero]

+1 to this

profiling is only racist to people who intend to commit crimes

Profiling based on data should not be considered racist, and I would still say this if/when it happens only to white people, as long as it is supported by data. I want whatever is doing the profiling to be effective at their job, like I do for any job

[Reiwa]

anybody suggest investing in boys & girls club? no? ok back to taking your rights away then.

Post below you endorses prejudice 🤭

[unsunghero]

Post below you endorses prejudice 🤭

No profiling and prejudice are not the same, which is why they are two different words with two different definitions. Since you seem to have forgotten how these differ, I’ll explain:

Profiling definition: “The use of data compiled about people who have committed criminal offenses in the effort to describe or identify the most likely suspects in a particular crime”

Prejudice: “preconceived opinion that is not based on reason or actual experience”

See that part about data and that part about “not based on reason”?

Aren’t definitions fun

[Gustoo]

Profiling based on data should not be considered racist, and I would still say this if/when it happens only to white people, as long as it is supported by data. I want whatever is doing the profiling to be effective at their job, like I do for any job

Slippery slope. Using data to rationalize further evil acts is something we’re really good at, and it always goes down stream and never up stream. You can compile some robust data to illustrate that the totality of the individuals within the house and the senate are a burden to society with no redemptive value that would suggest net contribution rather than extraction of value to the country and that we’d be better with them
And their Ilk in prison and everyone in prison to be released to vigilante justice, but that shit is never going to happen (not that I’d actually want it to)

What will happen is some bullshit logical argument based on a corrupt dataset that mandates whatever authoritarian bullshit.

The solution is never more authoritarian bullshit. The solution is more community and more community accountability.

That means an attack on lawyers and insurance companies by all of us (so everyone) who are being raped brutally by these groups 24/7

You talk about legal liability like our way of handling it is a fact of life. The distopian nightmare legal liability system in the USA doesn’t exist universally. It’s something we can change. We can make it so when joe big heart runs into the school and trips and shoots a teacher through a wall on accident that he doesn’t go to prison for 75 years.

And other stupid shit that happens “under the law”

People also seem to mistake legality with morality. Please take a moment to consider how ridiculous this thought is. We see it all the time though, someone involved in some scumbag bamboozlement scheme and saying “hey, I’m
Not breaking any laws!” And the correct response is, uhh so what. The inverse is also true, when something is somehow illegal and is right. Like defying the cops surrounding the school and getting in there to stop the carnage.

Anyone who thinks the government is going to come up with a scheme to save school childrens lives really has their head in the sand. These are the guys who distribute food pyramids designed by industrial food manufacturers based on gross profit margin opportunities provided by the food types.

These are the guys who steamroll two entire countries back to back because it’s so profitable (for war industry people) to be wading through piles of human ruin. These are the guys who offered bounty on native Americans scalps while systematically destroying their communities in the most permanent ways that could be contrived.

You don’t need to relate to this evil power. The American government, the American way of rape and pillage is not your legacy. Crawling back through time, your ancestors were steamrolled and their culture deleted on the British isles by the Roman’s. You’re some bad ass indigenous blood somewhere, where you lived in a community that wasnt deprived of the basic necessities of life for the petty profit of a person who’s only moral value is the attainment of $$ that the government will allow him to hoard for himself.

America is great, but its greatness depends on the minor and seemingly insignificant actions of every single American every single day which create the collective direction of this nation. If we choose to live like or aspire to be sitting pretty like the hoarder billionaire who lives the literal definition of an evil person, nothing can save us. All of our enemies, whoever calls us “the great satan” would be correct in their analysis. We have to prove them wrong, with our actions towards our enemies and our neighbors alike.

And you can’t force it out of your fellow trauma survivors. You gotta just give and forgive all you can and hope to deter calamity just a little bit more each day.

Sorry the only practical solution isn’t a law or policy that needs to
be passed. The good news is that success doesn’t depend on the actions of millionaire politicians. It depends on you and your next door neighbor, in a web that spans our entire civilization.

Yeah our rulers can do direct damage themselves but that’s just the DD portion of a ten trillion tick DOT spell. We don’t even need to poopsock dragons for resist gear it’s right there in your soul. Bristlebane bless

[Gustoo]

Also when is red 2.0 releasing?

[unsunghero]

Slippery slope. Using data to rationalize further evil acts is something we’re really good at, and it always goes down stream and never up stream. You can compile some robust data to illustrate that the totality of the individuals within the house and the senate are a burden to society with no redemptive value that would suggest net contribution rather than extraction of value to the country and that we’d be better with them
And their Ilk in prison and everyone in prison to be released to vigilante justice, but that shit is never going to happen (not that I’d actually want it to)

What will happen is some bullshit logical argument based on a corrupt dataset that mandates whatever authoritarian bullshit.

The solution is never more authoritarian bullshit. The solution is more community and more community accountability.

That means an attack on lawyers and insurance companies by all of us (so everyone) who are being raped brutally by these groups 24/7

You talk about legal liability like our way of handling it is a fact of life. The distopian nightmare legal liability system in the USA doesn’t exist universally. It’s something we can change. We can make it so when joe big heart runs into the school and trips and shoots a teacher through a wall on accident that he doesn’t go to prison for 75 years.

And other stupid shit that happens “under the law”

People also seem to mistake legality with morality. Please take a moment to consider how ridiculous this thought is. We see it all the time though, someone involved in some scumbag bamboozlement scheme and saying “hey, I’m
Not breaking any laws!” And the correct response is, uhh so what. The inverse is also true, when something is somehow illegal and is right. Like defying the cops surrounding the school and getting in there to stop the carnage.

Anyone who thinks the government is going to come up with a scheme to save school childrens lives really has their head in the sand. These are the guys who distribute food pyramids designed by industrial food manufacturers based on gross profit margin opportunities provided by the food types.

These are the guys who steamroll two entire countries back to back because it’s so profitable (for war industry people) to be wading through piles of human ruin. These are the guys who offered bounty on native Americans scalps while systematically destroying their communities in the most permanent ways that could be contrived.

You don’t need to relate to this evil power. The American government, the American way of rape and pillage is not your legacy. Crawling back through time, your ancestors were steamrolled and their culture deleted on the British isles by the Roman’s. You’re some bad ass indigenous blood somewhere, where you lived in a community that wasnt deprived of the basic necessities of life for the petty profit of a person who’s only moral value is the attainment of $$ that the government will allow him to hoard for himself.

America is great, but its greatness depends on the minor and seemingly insignificant actions of every single American every single day which create the collective direction of this nation. If we choose to live like or aspire to be sitting pretty like the hoarder billionaire who lives the literal definition of an evil person, nothing can save us. All of our enemies, whoever calls us “the great satan” would be correct in their analysis. We have to prove them wrong, with our actions towards our enemies and our neighbors alike.

And you can’t force it out of your fellow trauma survivors. You gotta just give and forgive all you can and hope to deter calamity just a little bit more each day.

Sorry the only practical solution isn’t a law or policy that needs to
be passed. The good news is that success doesn’t depend on the actions of millionaire politicians. It depends on you and your next door neighbor, in a web that spans our entire civilization.

Yeah our rulers can do direct damage themselves but that’s just the DD portion of a ten trillion tick DOT spell. We don’t even need to poopsock dragons for resist gear it’s right there in your soul. Bristlebane bless

Data is easily manipulated = / = we should ignore data

Get your data ethically. I’m sure people would love to extrapolate that I think it’s ok to over-police a particular group for zero reason at all and then claim that they have higher rates of offenses and call that ethical data. Because I don’t think that

I agree on the over-litigated USA completely

While I am suggesting more security in schools, I think policy making should be also based on data and not on how emotionally provocative a particular crime is no matter how extreme that can get. This, in addition to your explanation of corruption, might be why there hasn’t been a huge focus on protecting children in schools, because despite all our mass shootings, children in schools are generally safe in terms of how many have died in these versus how many there are in the USA. It’s just when it happens, ours News saturates it and it hits us really hard emotionally

[Gustoo]

I agree.

But even in the medical system a significant portion of their policies are not evidence based. You’d think it’s an institution of medical science, but that’s far from being the priority.

School shooters?

Volunteer female only (statistically less likely to be pedophiles) armed guards. Volunteer does not mean incompetent. Since when does getting paid to potentially put your life on the line ever make you better at it.

A bunch of (by definition of their armed and ready nature) hot moms wearing 3/4 length coats with 14.5 inch barreled regular old colt m4s (civilian semi auto variant)

The community can organize a method of financially supporting these hot
Moms. Once they achieve the equivalent pay of the highest paid teacher in the school (by donations) excess funds go to an organization that gives mothers with new babies assistance both financial and emotional.

A maximum of one hot mom guarding each classroom which also has the benefit of extra hall monitor duty.

Pretending that violence doesn’t happen is silly in a country where local Pd sees themselves as some kinda mini military club and buys ied proof vehicles that should have gone to Afghanistan.

This is just a specific community response possibility.

Might be easier to email the federal government and ask them
To stop grooming school shooters tho?

Jk conspiracy theories always sound too plausible.

[Jibartik]

We're like, "lets accept overspending to solve every issue but mental illness"

[unsunghero]

I agree.

But even in the medical system a significant portion of their policies are not evidence based. You’d think it’s an institution of medical science, but that’s far from being the priority.

School shooters?

Volunteer female only (statistically less likely to be pedophiles) armed guards. Volunteer does not mean incompetent. Since when does getting paid to potentially put your life on the line ever make you better at it.

A bunch of (by definition of their armed and ready nature) hot moms wearing 3/4 length coats with 14.5 inch barreled regular old colt m4s (civilian semi auto variant)

Ha, I like. All I could think of was the hot armed IDF girls in Israel

Lotta people armed in Israel, not that many mass shootings, even per capita. Different cultures are different though

[Jibartik]

hmm how's that militerized police working out for them?

[Jibartik]

Lotta people armed in Israel, not that many mass shootings, even per capita. Different cultures are different though

holup

[unsunghero]

holup

Apparently despite being heavily armed, they do also have much stricter requirements for civilians though. Only one gun per person, limit to 50 bullets total, have to have a license, assault weapons not allowed without special license unless serving in military. Can get a license to own a gun for self-defense though. But no collecting hordes of guns for funsies

[starkind]

Fringe benefits: lawsuits and jail

:p

Yeah. Well thats a social problem with our corrupt and fucked up justice system at the heart of it.

And it effects literally every industry. Occupation.

[starkind]

People trampled each other, screamed, cried, and generally panicked at an airport after a gun accidentally went off once

These were all unarmed people, and 3 ended up getting hurt in the confusion. Now picture many of them being armed if you doubt the possibility of friendly fire

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=AURPSiINL_A

The crying 😢 😭 was obviously the worst part!

Again, why does not everyone take cover and follow a chain of command?

[starkind]

At scale?

It's been like 10 minutes and I'm already angry again. I think I caught the Blake. 😾

So do it like jury duty.

We have a society.

Ppl are either for it or against it.

Too many are against it. Ez pz solutions tho.

[starkind]

Raise the age to purchase a firearm to 25 for males

Make it 35 for anyone with tattoos, poverty, obesity, or drugs in their extended lineage

[starkind]

anybody suggest investing in boys & girls club? no? ok back to taking your rights away then.

Military academy 4 all

[starkind]

As for profiling? Data is a pretty good predictor of honesty, loyalty, trust. Obese people are clearly not trustworthy due to an inherent lack of discipline obviously. Something that can sometimes be corrected. It's a pretty good indicator tho.

All the times I've struggled showing up on time for duty. Or later in life with weight where amazing indications of my malfunction.

Once someone spirals enough to expose themselves to a situation where there's drugs or obesity It's obviously game over. There's clearly dysfunction that absolutely must be addressed. (Or even maladaptive addiction to a video game, TV show, or News Channel).

So far all the shooters would have failed miserably even the most basic and easy of my fitness tests, evals.

We simply must raise the standards with which we expect people to live by. If they are not meeting those standards. No freedom. That includes the parents of said people who are totally responsible for their progenies behavior. At any age.

Don't let your family fuck up.

The reason people act like children and monsters is because we let them act like children and monsters. And protect them (or reward them) when they do it.

That's why no matter who wins elections society is going to become more authoritarian. Because we literally as a culture systematically protect the corrupt, lazy, greedy, narcissistic, satanic monsters.

It's so basic it blows my mind I would need to explain anything to anyone. Yet here we are. I am doing this outa courtesy and care for ppl. Not because I need it.

Thank you for this opportunity to enrich your lives with my hard won wisdom.

~sincerely
a reformatted obsolete military model

[starkind]

Apparently despite being heavily armed, they do also have much stricter requirements for civilians though. Only one gun per person, limit to 50 bullets total, have to have a license, assault weapons not allowed without special license unless serving in military. Can get a license to own a gun for self-defense though. But no collecting hordes of guns for funsies

Seems totally reasonable.

They also probably get shit for not going to temple.

[Reiwa]

No profiling and prejudice are not the same, which is why they are two different words with two different definitions. Since you seem to have forgotten how these differ, I’ll explain:

Profiling definition: “The use of data compiled about people who have committed criminal offenses in the effort to describe or identify the most likely suspects in a particular crime”

Prejudice: “preconceived opinion that is not based on reason or actual experience”

See that part about data and that part about “not based on reason”?

Aren’t definitions fun

Pre-judice. Before court decision.

[Mblake1981]

Bent and twisted? Interesting diagnosis. How would you fix it?

I don't. I think its a bullshit process that has to run its course. The items are stripped or they stay, at the cost of a lot of kids bloodshed.

Would you even bother trying to fix cults?

[Elizondo]

I don't. I think its a bullshit process that has to run its course. The items are stripped or they stay, at the cost of a lot of kids bloodshed.

Would you even bother trying to fix cults?

During my 12 and a half years as a member of this body, I have never believed that additional gun control or federal registration of guns would reduce crime. I am convinced that a criminal who wants a firearm can get one through illegal, nontraceable, unregistered sources, with or without gun control. - Joe Biden

[robayon]

See? Joe Biden has long been a conservative. I don't know what the right wing dudes here are so worried about. He's on your team, there's no left wingers in the White House

[Elizondo]

See? Joe Biden has long been a conservative. I don't know what the right wing dudes here are so worried about. He's on your team, there's no left wingers in the White House

What's conservative or right wing about his statement

FYI don't forget it's Alzheimer's Awareness Month

[robayon]

What's conservative or right wing about his statement

FYI don't forget it's Alzheimer's Awareness MonthThe fact that you posted it

https://i.imgur.com/bSIicJK.jpeg

[Elizondo]

The fact that you posted it



Sorry you triggered so badly

no pun intended

[robayon]

Sorry you triggered so badly

no pun intendedYou really out of ideas already? It's like 11:30am, get your game face on

[starkind]

Pre-judice. Before court decision.

This is what happens when the courts fail. Yeah.

[starkind]

I don't. I think its a bullshit process that has to run its course. The items are stripped or they stay, at the cost of a lot of kids bloodshed.

Would you even bother trying to fix cults?

No

[Mblake1981]

See? Joe Biden has long been a conservative. I don't know what the right wing dudes here are so worried about. He's on your team, there's no left wingers in the White House

Should Joe visit a gay church to be more progressive?

[starkind]

No.

[Elizondo]

You really out of ideas already? It's like 11:30am, get your game face on

You're just whining and flingin poo

[robayon]

Should Joe visit a gay church to be more progressive?No, he should resign for a huge variety of reasons

[Mblake1981]

No, he should resign for a huge variety of reasons

So visiting a Gay Church, that you have previously endorsed just a minute ago.. with conviction, would be grounds or further grounds to remove him from office?

[starkind]

He should resign for being a liar and a pedobro. (Biden)

[Jibartik]

He's a great president, when people ask him about inflation he tells them they're insane.

[starkind]

Hes a great president, when people ask him about inflation he tells them they're insane.

Gaslit!

[Elizondo]

O9KMgRamba0

[Jibartik]

Gaslit!

Trump said things only insane people would understand.

Biden tells normal people theyre insane if they dont understand what he said.

Thats the only difference.

(oh yea that and we would not be at war with Russia, and there would be no special operation in ukraine) (ironic that's what biden thinks caused the inflation!)

[Mblake1981]

Hes a great president, when people ask him about inflation he tells them they're insane.

Trump did a variation of that so this is fine.

[robayon]

So visiting a Gay Church, that you have previously endorsed just a minute ago.. with conviction, would be grounds or further grounds to remove him from office?I guess given all of the other stuff I'd just shrug it off as an attempt at good optics or publicity. Virtue signaling, if you like. Whatever his handlers tell him gets more non-cis non-straight voters or something. I understand why they would want such coverage, and plenty of people would clap when they saw it, but I don't buy that he's really on board

So, it wouldn't move the needle much either way to me personally

[starkind]

There's no war in Laos *Nixon voice*

[Jibartik]

Look, a lot of speech is inflammatory and your freedom of speech is infringing on my freedom and liberty, so it's time we limited it.

These guns are out of control too so its time we got rid of those.

And the privacy that allows us to spread this illegal information and exchange these illegal guns only promotes corruption so its time to open up our books.

Under any moral authority, or any rational one, it makes no sense to have these freedoms, none at all.

So lets just do it already, lets just prove that "were smarter than our history" lets just prove it once and for all!

[Mblake1981]

Steve Jobs rests in an unmarked grave.

[starkind]

Look, a lot of speech is inflammatory and your freedom of speech is infringing on my freedom and liberty, so it's time we limited it.

These guns are out of control too so its time we got rid of those.

And the privacy that allows us to spread this illegal information and exchange these illegal guns only promotes corruption so its time to open up our books.

Under any moral authority, or any rational one, it makes no sense to have these freedoms, none at all.

So lets just do it already, lets just prove that "were smarter than our history" lets just prove it once and for all!

Yeah well it doesn't matter if we do or don't if we can't get ourselves to church and grow our own food. So we are pretty doomed. Most of us. And I am not complaining. I think others should come to terms aswell.

Time to go drink some water and stretch.

[Jibartik]

I think the thing we dont realize is we've done that. And what happens is like the forest, after we've done that, we make a mess, and then the mess ignites into a flame that burns the forest and we do it again, over and over and over..

becuase if there is nothing divine about us and our end wasnt predicted by god, then that is just the way nature works.

If only the friggen scientists could friggen figure this out with all their big brains.

[robayon]

Look, a lot of speech is inflammatory and your freedom of speech is infringing on my freedom and liberty, so it's time we limited it.

These guns are out of control too so its time we got rid of those.

And the privacy that allows us to spread this illegal information and exchange these illegal guns only promotes corruption so its time to open up our books.

Under any moral authority, or any rational one, it makes no sense to have these freedoms, none at all.

So lets just do it already, lets just prove that "were smarter than our history" lets just prove it once and for all!The next step is the Anti-Life Equation

[starkind]

The next step is the Anti-Life Equation

https://i.imgur.com/0UwhHEi.png

[Jibartik]

The next step is the Anti-Life Equation

History seems to imply that the above is the anti life equation :p

Despite what that great image says.

[Jibartik]

https://youtu.be/eLyyaT2w4pc?t=351

nooooooooooooooo couldn't be the medical systems failures.

[Mblake1981]

Wonky has mentioned semi-auto as a talking point, just want to touch base here and ask if you are aware the original compromise the public made with their rights had to do with what constitutes "assault" or not, that decision was having a full automatic selector switch.

Every other this & that has been petty bullshit. The selector switch is what matters and that directly touches American rights, this is always the danger in making the initial compromise on something you shouldn't, and do not let anyone tell you a slippery slope does not exist because with these things they are an outright liar. The proof of this is Wonky asking about semi-auto fire as a talking point.

I didn't engage with him earlier on this topic because I didn't take it serious enough to comment, but its bothering me right now so I will. If Wonky asked that question in front of the wrong person he might have a bad issue for himself, I mean that by standing in those shoes. You are directly asking people who are not idiots to forfeit more for the exact reasons people said would happen.

Edit note: The original compromise was due to the Mafia and our Gov being in league, at least one prominent politician went down for it.
This is part of a larger moral question. The social movement created the laws, culture is upstream from politics, the Gov enforced it, the Mafia organized and supplied the illegal booze, the Gov fought them and in some cases made deals, the Mafia used tommy guns from our Gov that all citizens could own, the Gov playing off the fears of a public in panic (remind of you anything?) passed the first gun laws but could only get fully-automatic on the books. Later the social movement passed, organized crime remained and so did the Gov bans on full automatics, that the Gov could own and so could the Mafia and other criminal organizations.

The fact is the public got fucked.

-Be Warned: If you are not from the USA and you wish to comment on this, I will try my best to figuratively bite your face off.

[Reiwa]

Wonky has mentioned semi-auto as a talking point, just want to touch base here and ask if you are aware the original compromise the public made with their rights had to do with what constitutes "assault" or not, that decision was having a full automatic selector switch.

Every other this & that has been petty bullshit. The selector switch is what matters and that directly touches American rights, this is always the danger in making the initial compromise on something you shouldn't, and do not let anyone tell you a slippery slope does not exist because with these things they are an outright liar. The proof of this is Wonky asking about semi-auto fire as a talking point.

I didn't engage with him earlier on this topic because I didn't take it serious enough to comment, but its bothering me right now so I will. If Wonky asked that question in front of the wrong person he might have a bad issue for himself, I mean that by standing in those shoes. You are directly asking people who are not idiots to forfeit more for the exact reasons people said would happen.

Edit note: The original compromise was due to the Mafia and our Gov being in league, at least one prominent politician went down for it.
This is part of a larger moral question. The social movement created the laws, culture is upstream from politics, the Gov enforced it, the Mafia organized and supplied the illegal booze, the Gov fought them and in some cases made deals, the Mafia used tommy guns from our Gov that all citizens could own, the Gov playing off the fears of a public in panic (remind of you anything?) passed the first gun laws but could only get fully-automatic on the books. Later the social movement passed, organized crime remained and so did the Gov bans on full automatics, that the Gov could own and so could the Mafia and other criminal organizations.

The fact is the public got fucked.

-Be Warned: If you are not from the USA and you wish to comment on this, I will try my best to figuratively bite your face off.

I have never said "semi auto". 😼

Hope this helps.

[Mblake1981]

I have never said "semi auto". ��

Hope this helps.

omg did I mix that up, I could have swore it was you. shit. Hang on i will have to do a forum search to see who said that.

I'm scared because it's semiauto, not the brand name moron.

were you calling others out with an underhanded style? if so my apologies, went over my head until you said something.

[Reiwa]

omg did I mix that up, I could have swore it was you. shit. Hang on i will have to do a forum search to see who said that.

I said something different that means semi auto.

That's important for some reason.

[Reiwa]

Oh I forgot about that guess I slipped up.

[Jibartik]

5 bullet clips

[Mblake1981]

I said something different that means semi auto.

That's important for some reason.

Pardon, what are you talking about?

[Reiwa]

Pardon, what are you talking about?

The automatic loading thing. I don't know guns too good but I think that's it. Chambers the round for you?

How gun go

[Trexller]

The automatic loading thing. I don't know guns too good but I think that's it. Chambers the round for you?

How gun go

yep that's it.

1 trigger pull for 1 shot, is the basic definition of semi-automatic in firearms. I assume this is still an AR-15 debate so in this case, when a shot is fired, some of the gas resulting from the chemical propellant is recycled back to the upper receiver where it pushes the closed bolt mechanism against a spring while the extractor ejects the spent shell, opening the breach for another round to cycle up out of the magazine.

it can get alot more technical but that should suffice for all your purposes.

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[Mblake1981]

The automatic loading thing. I don't know guns too good but I think that's it. Chambers the round for you?

How gun go

Hey np, I don't know dick-squat about the numbers in economics or whatever so we are even, sort of.

Yes, loading the chamber is semi-automatic capabilities. It would also be the next significant reduction in American public rights due to that capability touching or being a key part of a vast array of firearms, not simply a few. If anyone tells you that they are flat-out lying to your face. It wouldn't be possible any other way. Fact is crystal-clear fact.

That might also arose a hellacious amount of Military/Ex-Military and Police. They are citizens too when they take off the badge, it directly changes their lives and rights in a significant way while giving the Gov and any other criminal organization yet another advantage over the United States public.

[Reiwa]

while giving the Gov and any other criminal organization yet another advantage over the United States public.

I think robayon the gay church guy would agree with you here. 👀

[Reiwa]

Cornyn of Texas is setup to be leading Senate negotiations on the gun stuff

[Jibartik]

wait why do mass shootings happen now and not like, before 30 years ago, what was the reason again?

[Kaveh]

wait why do mass shootings happen now and not like, before 30 years ago, what was the reason again?

Households without fathers

Recent development

[Horza]

wait why do mass shootings happen now and not like, before 30 years ago, what was the reason again?

In February 1996, after former U.S. Republican Party political strategist and NBC executive Roger Ailes left cable television channel America's Talking (now MSNBC), Murdoch asked him to start Fox News Channel.

[Mblake1981]

lol

[unsunghero]

wait why do mass shootings happen now and not like, before 30 years ago, what was the reason again?

As said before, households without fathers or even any parents

Being able to lose oneself in the dark corners of the internet more easily and for longer

Ever-increasing American sexualization leaving virgins feeling emasculated and sexually frustrated

Maybe a rise in mental health disorders that contribute to social isolation

Sorry, I mean

GUNS

[Mblake1981]

As said before, households without fathers or even any parents

Being able to lose oneself in the dark corners of the internet more easily and for longer

A combination of ever-increasing American sexualization leaving virgins feeling emasculated and sexually frustrated

Maybe a rise in mental health disorders that contribute to social isolation

Sorry, I mean

GUNS

I hardly ever see kids out playing in the town I grew up in, where we played and other kids played. Granted spaces have changed, there is more to do around which might contribute, but it doesn't change the fact that a literal entire group of American were born & raised on that device and their thoughts, feelings and outlooks will be changed by it.

This is why Steve Jobs is dead. You can't radically alter reality like that and not pay a huge price. For better or worse, he did. His widow courts DC politicians on his boat (https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2918250/Steve-Jobs-widow-Laurene-Powell-moves-vacations-luxury-yacht-former-DC-mayor-Adrian-Fenty.html). I am sure they all thought it was just a money-printing machine.

It's dangerous when our own public don't even know their rights and they are targeted online by every Chinese Wolf Diplomat, Aussie God-forsaken shitposter or run of the mill trolls from abroad. Then these people start voting.. but that is downstream from politics, politics are downstream from social movements/culture. Their culture and social movements stem from 'World Wide' internet instead of home.

[Jibartik]

We always talk about how "america is the only country that has freedom etc etc"

But then we also hear people say this is the only country where this happens so is that the problem?

What'd we do to be "more free" like 30 years ago? What is it about the millennial generation that suddenly turned them into mass murderers?

Was it getting rid of the klu klux klan? Serious question. Im not suggesting it's a solution, just always wonder that when people say "this didnt used to happen" I always think, didn't we used to invite the Mayor?

[starkind]

https://youtu.be/eLyyaT2w4pc?t=351

nooooooooooooooo couldn't be the medical systems failures.

Yeah well idiots will use this whole thing to dismiss one thing he was right about. (And probably others) The antidepressants.

[Reiwa]

wait why do mass shootings happen now and not like, before 30 years ago, what was the reason again?

30 years ago you say?

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[Jibartik]

Good theories up in here. I'm liking the influence of what was behind the curtain.

[Reiwa]

Good theories up in here. I'm liking the influence of what was behind the curtain.

I mean, come on guys. Their President is literally an ex-KGB officer.

What the fuck did you think was happening?

[starkind]

No one deserves the protection of nuclear weapons or militaries.

If all the nukes, airplanes, missiles, tanks, bullets, explosives, disappeared tomorrow. We'd all be able to quickly sort things out.

[Gustoo]

I mean, come on guys. Their President is literally an ex-KGB officer.

What the fuck did you think was happening?

You know what they say, once a KGB officer, always a nice guy.

[Jibartik]

Once you go KGB you never go KGBack.

[Trexller]

No one deserves the protection of nuclear weapons or militaries.

If all the nukes, airplanes, missiles, tanks, bullets, explosives, disappeared tomorrow. We'd all be able to quickly sort things out.

seriously?

then we'd all just stab and club each other, look at the UK or australia

UK has like 50k stabbings a year, but they jump up on their high horse and say guns are the problem

nobody ever mentions the fact that the ENTIRE HUMAN SPECIES IS FUCKING PISSED OFF

[starkind]

A little stabbing won't be a big problem for you. You could even have a whole little fiefdom of ppl in Knights Armor following you and your ways with big stabbies. I'd even follow you.

And it would be better than what we have now.

Nothing is ever going to be perfect.

I'm simply looking for the least abusable, and most economically, ecologically, healthy, agrarian friendly means of stabbing. We don't need high tech toys to stab each other orbitally unless you really want to implement my horrific version of illiberal authoritarianism. (which I'll admit would collapse the minute someone other than the good guys got a hold of the orbital stabbies)

Only if we are desperate to do long range stabbings. Which in my mind ruins the whole purpose of stabbing, unless you are gonna do the stabbing up close and personal and risk getting stabbed yourself than you are just a rogue in the dark with a dagger waiting for drunken prey. I'm not saying you are...

Honestly, that's how you win wars anyway though. So yeah, some amount of cowardly ambush tactics is necessary, lets not kid ourselves though, the people ordering the trigger pulls need to be right at arms reach of the people they are ordering and also the people who's sons and daughters are going to die. And I don't specifically say or mean this about Americans as much as I do for other people like Xi or Putin or Kimmy. Or that crazy German lady.


nobody ever mentions the fact that the ENTIRE HUMAN SPECIES IS FUCKING PISSED OFF

That is 100% true lol.

I'm not mad tho :p

----

let me reframe my comment

right now the big politicians and CEOs are the bluebies and they are on their own server

everyone else is on the pvp server, if you get involved in pvp tho u get banned by the GMs who are the big bluebies

let's just reset the pvp server and have no gms :D Except anyone who develops or makes long range stabbies getts stabbed by a mass horde of honorable stabber guildies.

It will last slightly longer than the nukes thing and the results will be similair without nuclear winter and like THX 1138 levels of authoritarianisms. Then society will collapse again as ppl agree to share long range stabbies again and we will be right back to square zero in an arms race for the longest stabs. While the rice farmers stab back only in vietnam, but not the USA anymore.

Could u imagine some farmer shooting a plane with a politician in it from his field in the USA --- haha the entire response would be literally cyborg guys dropping in on this guy and we'd see a Unibomber news story. (bad Idea) I do not recommend this, i'm just saying it would end so badly.

All this was prompted by a fox news article I read about how much force they mobilized because some yokal was out joyriding in their airplane and didn't read the aircertmapalert for the day. Biden, nobody, is worth that much effort to protect. Not worth two military aircraft and some big 40 person team.

You would have to be captain america to be that valueable and than you'd be leading the charge and not hiding behind 50 ppl and some hardware.

https://www.foxnews.com/us/biden-plane-enters-restricted-airspace-delaware-beach-house

just not fuckin worth it what a joke

ppl are terrified animals

it's a shame

Even if I was super pentagon general space commando force guy I would tell my team to stand the fuck down and go do something useful if it was me on the beach

we have become a joke of a people

we don't deserve this no one does

all this does is result in well protected pedos and ppl who won't do for themselves anymore


----

we won't protect ourselves

if the UN invaded tomorrow it would spark a civil war. And the UN is a joke. We could easily repel them. They won't tho because they work for us, unless something silly happens where there is some civil war already. And if someone started a civil war because biden tripped and fell or was a dumb person who angered 50% of us. Well????? Same goes for Trump or anyone else for that matter. We'd kinda deserve it for electing such stupid leaders, wouldn't we? That's how the power elites keep us under control and regulate who gets to regulate the economy etc. And who gets rationed what etc. and we are perpetually in a state of printing and rationing rights and power

that's what patents and copywrites are. that's what the DoE, DoT, FBI, CIA, DEA, ATF, FDA, USDA, HHS, etc all are, rationing who gets to do what, whether they be the federal or state versions because the states have been completely subsummed. I don't agree with Ron about a lot of his thoughts, I do like seeing him stop the federal bullshit tho and thumb at the CDC.

You wanna make and sell drugs? U better pay big money and be the right guy paying the right guys for the licensces and permits. Wanna do science, or generate power for a grid? U wanna be off grid??? U wanna build cars and bring them to market? u wanna do anything besides work a minimum wage job for a shit corporation like walmart??? u better own land and not participate in the economy, because if you bring some service or product to bare on the US market u better be ready to wrestle with the bear. U wanna run a wholeistic religious healing center? U better know the right ppl and have doctors around to go to bat for u and lawyer after lawyer. U better make sure u are compliant with every little detail. Oh yeah and u better not turn away anyone even the ppl who are clearly killing themselves and just a drain on the system. Or clearly made poor choices and need to be triaged. G-d bless their souls, u can't even give them a pack of morphine or fentanyl or even poppy tea to ease their journey into the next world oughta nothin but charity. Even if ur not seeking a profit and infringing on the rights of big pharma. Or some saudi princeling.

Alright, this post is probably borderline illegal and racist, so this is my limit.

(awww hell) I'm not advocating for gun control. I'm just illustrating how the power structures are enabled by military guns in bad ppls hands (like a bad government) I'm not even calling our government bad, technically. I am saying they shouldn't be bad, and if they are bad we don't want them to be that powerful. Compared to us.

*everyone should be able to have a nuke* <---- political bingo lol.

[Trexller]

If you aren't pissed off, than you aren't awake

or you have an IQ lower than 80

[Grimjaw]

https://i.imgur.com/JxKOEmv.jpg

[Trexller]

https://i.imgur.com/JxKOEmv.jpg

what the fuck is this supposed to be?

[Grimjaw]

it's a relevant take on a commonly shared thought experiment...

[Trexller]

it's a relevant take on a commonly shared thought experiment...

fuckin stupid thought experiment.

who the fuck would allow themselves to be tied to railroad tracks?

at that distance, the trolley wouldn't gain enough inertia to get thru the first or second person

suggesting that we're all in some sort of danger and some "official" is the only one guarding the lever that can kill us? fuckin bullshit on that

your post is dumb and you should feel dumb.

[starkind]

If you aren't pissed off, than you aren't awake

or you have an IQ lower than 80


IQ lower than 80 :eek: :o

I used to be pissed off does that count? :cool: ;)

It's really hard to get worked up and easy to shitpost.

I am getting my body back together tho. We'll see what I'm made of on that day. If it comes in my lifetime. I am still not sure it will. I feel like we'll have natural disaster, disease, calamity, starvation before that day. And it will be decided for us and it'll be everything we can do just to keep our family alive or not starve and kill ourselves. Or die of exposure and cholera.

Some antichristlike figure will offer people salvation and they'll live in bubble tented cities near Astana, Kazakhstan. Or something weirder.

[starkind]

https://i.imgur.com/JxKOEmv.jpg

what the fuck is this supposed to be?

The cops aimed their guns at the good guys with the guns who showed up to stop the trolly

The goodguys were obviously very obedient and super calm about it because they are indeed good guys. I'm glad they didn't kill the cops tho. That would have been bloodbath for both sides and very counterproductive at the time. Imagine the media frenzy around that... yikes. :cringe emoji:

[Trexller]

the entire world is on fire, every culture hates every other culture, every single nation is scrambling to gain authoritarian power, TPTB are fucking up everything that keeps the fiefdom happy

shit is gonna get ALOT WORSE before it gets better.

human beings should have never been trusted with the transistor, the only thing we did with it was make the world a shittier place to exist in.

[Trexller]

The cops aimed their guns at the good guys with the guns who showed up to stop the trolly

its still fuckin stupid. only beta bitches and soy boys would allow that situation to occur

if theres ever a public shooter in my vicinity, I am going to kill them or I am going to die trying

hell, same goes for a mugger or someone trying to rob the local 7/11, the only 911 call that goes out will be to notify authorities that I have exercised my god and constitutionally given rights to peace, and have used deadly force upon some shitbag stain of a human being.

[starkind]

yeah man

*tips floppy hat*

https://i.imgur.com/tHefayQ.gif

[unsunghero]

seriously?

then we'd all just stab and club each other, look at the UK or australia

UK has like 50k stabbings a year, but they jump up on their high horse and say guns are the problem

nobody ever mentions the fact that the ENTIRE HUMAN SPECIES IS FUCKING PISSED OFF

If I knew it was going to kill me, I’d much rather be shot than stabbed. In the head please

That being said, if we went back to knife crime only, I’d definitely carry an extended snap out steel baton (the kind with the steel ball at the end) that I got as a gift a long time ago. Has more reach than almost any knife plus my long arms, and that ball is breaking whatever arm you try to block it with, then your skull next. I’d take it over knife in a fight any day

[Danth]

...and that ball is breaking whatever arm you try to block it with, then your skull next.

No, it isn't, not unless you're hitting an 80 year old woman or something. We trained with those collapsible ASPs plenty and I was readily able to shield myself from direct blows and continue attacking. At worst I ended up with some bruises. You're not stopping anyone with those things unless either through intimidation, or if you get him in a soft spot like the knees or the nerve cluster up near the shoulder/neck area. We were trained to aim at those types of areas for just that reason. I had so little faith in those things I kept a PR-24 handy as much as I could. On top of that, in a lot of jurisdictions it's illegal for people to carry those collapsible batons around, falls under the same classification as things like brass knuckles. Be sure to check your local laws.


Danth

[unsunghero]

No, it isn't, not unless you're hitting an 80 year old woman or something. We trained with those collapsible ASPs plenty and I was readily able to shield myself from direct blows and continue attacking. At worst I ended up with some bruises. You're not stopping anyone with those things unless either through intimidation, or if you get him in a soft spot like the knees or the nerve cluster up near the shoulder/neck area. We were trained to aim at those types of areas for just that reason. I had so little faith in those things I kept a PR-24 handy as much as I could. On top of that, in a lot of jurisdictions it's illegal for people to carry those collapsible batons around, falls under the same classification as things like brass knuckles. Be sure to check your local laws.


Danth

Or soft spot like the head. The force is all on the ball at the end, obviously getting inside that range of force is going to lessen the blow. But if that ball hits a blocking arm (or head) that arm is done UNLESS it was being swung by a 80yr old grandma

Either way, I’d think of something to carry to out-range a knife. Which is a statement on how we think to survive, trying to always one-up the other person’s potential weapon

[Elizondo]

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[Danth]

You could probably brain someone with a head strike, yeah. For obvious reasons we didn't hit each other in the head with those things in training.

But the arms and legs, especially the meaty areas? I promise you those things aren't nearly as effective as you've been trained they are by hollywood movies.

Danth

[Reiwa]

No, it isn't, not unless you're hitting an 80 year old woman or something. We trained with those collapsible ASPs plenty and I was readily able to shield myself from direct blows and continue attacking. At worst I ended up with some bruises. You're not stopping anyone with those things unless either through intimidation, or if you get him in a soft spot like the knees or the nerve cluster up near the shoulder/neck area. We were trained to aim at those types of areas for just that reason. I had so little faith in those things I kept a PR-24 handy as much as I could. On top of that, in a lot of jurisdictions it's illegal for people to carry those collapsible batons around, falls under the same classification as things like brass knuckles. Be sure to check your local laws.


Danth

Does it matter where on the stick you block it?

[Trexller]

there is a huge problem with collapsible batons. in any bodily location where they are non-lethal, they are absolutely ineffective, in any location where they could stop an assailant, they are like 95% lethal.

I've heard cops say that the best use for their baton is to scratch their back while wearing their vests.

If you wanna use a collapsible baton to stop a person, you have to crack their skull, eye socket, etc. It doesn't do shit against knee/elbow joints, it doesnt have the inertial mass to do so.

It's supposed to be a non-lethal takedown weapon, but it doesn't do jack shit unless lethal force is applied. and it cannot lock down an arm or a leg any better than arms or hands would. Moreover, given its length and proximity to the assailant, it can easily be taken from you.

Yeah its made of metal, so what? its hollow, it doesnt have the weight needed to knock someone to the ground unless they are off balance.

look up some youtube vids from actual martial arts instructors, the collapsible baton is useless by its own design. I'd go back to the side handle "T baton".

Time to invest in auto-reloading tazers, with variable voltage.

[Danth]

Does it matter where on the stick you block it?

Always. You catch it mid-stick it'll always hurt way less than if you catch the end. That's because damage done by striking weapons is mainly a function of velocity.

[Reiwa]

Always. You catch it mid-stick it'll always hurt way less than if you catch the end. That's because damage done by striking weapons is mainly a function of velocity.

And the person of knife will always be trying to close the distance to get it up in ya.

[Trexller]

Always. You catch it mid-stick it'll always hurt way less than if you catch the end. That's because damage done by striking weapons is mainly a function of velocity.

this guy doesn't know melee combat, outside of EQ

[unsunghero]

You could probably brain someone with a head strike, yeah. For obvious reasons we didn't hit each other in the head with those things in training.

But the arms and legs, especially the meaty areas? I promise you those things aren't nearly as effective as you've been trained they are by hollywood movies.

Danth

Any type of training with a blunt object vs a rubber or plastic knife is going to be skewed in perception

Why? Because you are assuming every contact made with that knife is a deep potentially fatal cut, but the person swinging the blunt object not only can’t swing as fast as they would in a fight, nor as hard as they would in a fight to death

So to say something like (not saying you are claiming this, just in general), “I killed my assailant who had a baton with my knife every time and only sustained minor bruising” is the same as saying “I spent a 3 month training camp sparring a UFC champion and never was knocked out once, therefore his striking is slow and ineffective”. It’s sparring. They aren’t going full bore

If they were, I’d imagine you’d need some sort of body armor which once again would lessen the perception of the damage caused

But regardless, I may adjust my weapon of choice to a wooden combat stick my dad got me, more reach and faster. Swimming laps in a minute but can take a pic of it when I get home to show, it’s made for stick combat

[starkind]

Blunt force trauma gives blood clots and also causes toxicity from dying cells. Healthy ppl usually survive this if it's not in the head, covering over a 3rd of their body or doesn't crush their femur or cause a boney bit to sever and artery or puncture a lung.

It's plenty lethal, just not sometimes immediately so.

That said people will beat the shit out of eachother and strike head, neck, callors, kidneys eyes and shit with batons, staffs, and poles lol.

[Danth]

this guy doesn't know melee combat, outside of EQ

If you mean I don't, I used to be a police officer, so I speak from personal experience. If you mean the other guy, probably not, but that's why I'm trying to help.

[Reiwa]

Blunt force trauma gives blood clots and also causes toxicity from dying cells. Healthy ppl usually survive this if it's not in the head, covering over a 3rd of their body or doesn't crush their femur or cause a boney bit to sever and artery or puncture a lung.

It's plenty lethal, just not sometimes immediately so.

That said people will beat the shit out of eachother and strike head, neck, callors, kidneys eyes and shit with batons, staffs, and poles lol.

I'm pretty good with a bo staff.

[starkind]

there is a huge problem with collapsible batons. in any bodily location where they are non-lethal, they are absolutely ineffective, in any location where they could stop an assailant, they are like 95% lethal.

I've heard cops say that the best use for their baton is to scratch their back while wearing their vests.

If you wanna use a collapsible baton to stop a person, you have to crack their skull, eye socket, etc. It doesn't do shit against knee/elbow joints, it doesnt have the inertial mass to do so.

It's supposed to be a non-lethal takedown weapon, but it doesn't do jack shit unless lethal force is applied. and it cannot lock down an arm or a leg any better than arms or hands would. Moreover, given its length and proximity to the assailant, it can easily be taken from you.

Yeah its made of metal, so what? its hollow, it doesnt have the weight needed to knock someone to the ground unless they are off balance.

look up some youtube vids from actual martial arts instructors, the collapsible baton is useless by its own design. I'd go back to the side handle "T baton".

Time to invest in auto-reloading tazers, with variable voltage.

Yeah. You need lenght or mass and then we are at macequest. I agree with the 95% aspect.

[starkind]

I'm pretty good with a bo staff.

U can get ppl on the ground with them. Stick a sharp heavy blade on one end and you're winning. Remember that spear vs sword video?

[Danth]

Any type of training with a blunt object vs a rubber or plastic knife is going to be skewed in perception

Of course. You can only simulate so much. We don't really want to kill each other, after all. That being said, you get a room full of guys [who were then] all in their 20's, who all very much want to one-up each other, they're not holding back THAT much. We did have guys who had dislocated shoulders, various broken bones, etc from various training and sparring mishaps.

Main thing is, don't make it a fair fight unless you have no choice. Even if you're pretty sure you'll win, 75% odds are pretty lousy odds to stake your life on if you're dead if you lose. We were always trained to use a level of force higher than what's being used against us. Private citizens don't get as many protections from the law as police do in defense of their own lives, but regardless I'd rather take my chances with the courts than with the undertaker. I'd rather have that ASP than nothing, but don't hold any illusions as to what it can or can't do. The tool you understand and respect will be the one that gives the best service.

Danth

[starkind]

Collapsible batons are critical strike only I agree. Carry a hard cane with a steel rod inside and steel handle over that.

[Reiwa]

We were always trained to use a level of force higher than what's being used against us.

Has doctrine changed since your time?

[Trexller]

If you mean I don't, I used to be a police officer, so I speak from personal experience. If you mean the other guy, probably not, but that's why I'm trying to help.

you said you would try to catch a baton mid stick. ok maybe. but then their other fist is gonna crush your larynx. You're now holding the baton, giving them leverage to pull against while throwing a punch.

maybe you caught the punch that would have hit your throat, great. now the assailant will side step you, throw their shin into the back of your knee and roll you to the ground. you let go of either hand to try and catch your own fall, but that only made it easier for the assailant to turn you facefirst to the ground during your fall.

and now you're just another statistic

im calling maybe bs on this "cop" either that or you weren't a cop for very long.

[unsunghero]

Of course. You can only simulate so much. We don't really want to kill each other, after all. That being said, you get a room full of guys [who were then] all in their 20's, who all very much want to one-up each other, they're not holding back THAT much. We did have guys who had dislocated shoulders, various broken bones, etc from various training and sparring mishaps.

Main thing is, don't make it a fair fight unless you have no choice. Even if you're pretty sure you'll win, 75% odds are pretty lousy odds to stake your life on if you're dead if you lose. We were always trained to use a level of force higher than what's being used against us. Private citizens don't get as many protections from the law as police do in defense of their own lives, but regardless I'd rather take my chances with the courts than with the undertaker. I'd rather have that ASP than nothing, but don't hold any illusions as to what it can or can't do. The tool you understand and respect will be the one that gives the best service.

Danth

No actual combat other than martial arts as a kid, but my dad sends me daily videos/tutorials on self-defense/street fight info by credible sources. None involve the baton tho that was just my own idea

The occasional mistake doesn’t mean people are trying to kill each other tho, but I understand. When I used to do martial arts as a kid, I’d land a headkick to an adult, wounding their pride, and then I’d discover than a 30 year old man is kicking me age 12 as hard as they can. It was a great way to prepare for future sparring tournaments, no kid could kick as hard as 30yr old man who’s pride has just been stung. Made sparring other kids feel like free wins. I can see how a scenario of wounded pride or machismo can make people practice harder than they should

I have seen vids on the most effective way to kill someone if you do have a knife too. My strat would be get a hold of their shirt with free hand, twist it tight to prevent all lateral/defensive movement, then violently stab from up and towards center mass. Can’t attack my arm holding them in time before the strikes come, can’t trap the striking wrist easily at that angle. Seen some vids attempting every self-defense move they can think of and that angle of approach is hard to not die to, supposedly

[Danth]

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Or maybe I don't mean "catch" like a baseball player, I just mean wherever it happens to get me. Nor did I say I'd "try" to do that, only that if that's where it happens to land it hurts less than the end does. Stop cruising the internet looking for people to try to 'pwn', there's no point in it and makes you look bad.

Danth

[unsunghero]

Ya missing a catch on a combat stick, if not a baton, is broken fingers for sure

[Trexller]

Or maybe I don't mean "catch" like a baseball player, I just mean wherever it happens to get me. Nor did I say I'd "try" to do that, only that if that's where it happens to land it hurts less than the end does. Stop cruising the internet looking for people to try to 'pwn', there's no point in it and makes you look bad.

Danth

yeah i really dont have to look very hard for idiots to 'pwn' online.

and stolen valor looks a hell of alot worse.

you said you "used" to be a cop, indicating that you departed under less than favorable circumstances, or more than likely passed the academy but failed the personality exams.

retired police officers will not say they "used to be" a cop, its like the marines, if you served with distinction once, you are a marine forever.

[Danth]

Ya missing a catch on a combat stick, if not a baton, is broken fingers for sure

Hah, no kidding. Does well to remember that while we nominally speak the same language, we're not all from the same regions or had the same upbringings and don't always use words in quite the same way. I say a dude caught a bullet in the face, I certainly don't mean to imply he shrugged it off and got back up.

Now let's see if Trex can back off a bit, admit his mistake, say "sorry" and we can all laugh off a misunderstanding and move on, or if he'll play pretend prison, refuse to show weakness and double down.

[Trexller]

Hah, no kidding. Does well to remember that while we nominally speak the same language, we're not all from the same regions or had the same upbringings and don't always use words in quite the same way. I say a dude caught a bullet in the face, I certainly don't mean to imply he shrugged it off and got back up.

Now let's see if Trex can back off a bit, admit his mistake, say "sorry" and we can all laugh off a misunderstanding and move on, or if he'll play pretend prison, refuse to show weakness and double down.

im not picking apart your vernacular, I am assaulting your claim of "used to be a cop"

it smells like bullshit. you talk like any average police procedural viewer.

[Danth]

You have an odd collection of some insight married to pointless aggression. As you guess, I wasn't in that field for ALL that long, after academy, a bit less than a year of actual work. What happened was I found someone who was doing something he shouldn't have been, crossed the "thin blue line" and promptly found myself un-employable in that particular field. I've never had occasion to feel I made a mistake though--I'd make the same choice. So, no, I'm not a lifer, and nor did I ever claim to be one.

I do expect an apology for the stolen valor crap. That's a serious accusation, dead wrong, and unwarranted. I expect better from you.

Danth

[unsunghero]

Oh and when I meant killing someone using a knife, I don’t mean someone who had a baton or combat stick because then I don’t know the strat as well

It’s meant on how to kill an unarmed person with a knife. Obviously that is an insanely stacked fight to begin with, but the method of pulling them with their shirt into your thrusts is the one where all the “how to stop a knife attack” strats break down and fall apart, since most rely on either lateral movement away to the non-knife side, which can’t happen when they are being held by their shirt and pulled into the knife, or trapping the knife wrist which is extremely hard to do at that angle

[starkind]

That's why they always get naked in dune.

[Trexller]

What happened was I found someone who was doing something he shouldn't have been, crossed the "thin blue line" and promptly found myself un-employable in that particular field.

If true, Im sorry about that.

cops very often get the short end of the stick, and then they turn around and get shit on by the public, and then they get clicky among their own ranks with an us vs. them mentality, and then they go to hard on the public, and the cycle perpetuates itself.

If you did serve with distinction, i do apologize, if you didnt, this is null and void.

you could always go work for some small town PD or a Demorat city PD, dirty cops (not saying you) always pull that kinda shit. They get fired in houston, then go work in austin etc etc.

[Jibartik]

Danth is a pretty straight shooter IMO

[starkind]

Standing behind Danth and Jibartik.

[Danth]

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Thanks Trex, good enough. We're cool. Appreciate it.

I didn't get "fired," just wasn't locked in a full-time position yet (reality of small town PD's as you probably know, most the guys are formally part-time, especially the newer hires) and shock of shocks couldn't get hours afterward. I didn't push it too hard after that, I'm not stupid and I didn't want to make a bigger problem out of it, nosed around a little, found it going noplace, so I turned direction and did other things with my life instead. Neither can I say I worked with any real "distinction"....wasn't working that job long enough for that, either. Just your usual nondescript work, traffic stops, crashes, lot of drunks, some domestics, etc. I'm not a scumbag but I ain't claiming to be a hero, either, just some dude who was starting out in life, thought that make a pretty good career since the idea of a desk job makes me want to throw up, and life ended up having other ideas.

Danth

[Horza]

yeah i really dont have to look very hard for idiots to 'pwn' online.

This is some quality cringe, unhinged internet tough guy.

[Trexller]

This is some quality cringe, unhinged internet tough guy.

Good Morning Horza!

3:30 PM EST is an early morning for you, feeling alright?

[Horza]

Good Morning Horza!

3:30 PM EST is an early morning for you, feeling alright?

You just le pwned me. Insert more tired chan lingo here, middle aged man who for some reason talks like a 14 year old.

[unsunghero]

Gotta get ready for a date (seeing the new Top Gun), but I wanted to post my new preferred weapon vs a knife

This one is meant for practice, the ones my dad and I used to have were thicker and shorter

I’d love to have someone strap on a full suit of body armor with a plastic knife and see how bashed up they get vs me with this before they can land a good cut

Only problem is: can’t conceal it or justify having it for anything other than violence. So starkind’s cane idea almost makes more sense. Or a baseball bat

[Trexller]

Gotta get ready for a date (seeing the new Top Gun), but I wanted to post my new preferred weapon vs a knife

This one is meant for practice, the ones my dad and I used to have were thicker and shorter

I’d love to have someone strap on a full suit of body armor with a plastic knife and see how bashed up they get vs me with this before they can land a good cut

Only problem is: can’t conceal it or justify having it for anything other than violence. So starkind’s cane idea almost makes more sense. Or a baseball bat

from 10 feet I'd be inside your swing range in 3 or less steps. Your weapon is agile, but yet still cumbersome, with how you have to position your arms and hands, your swings are predictable, so you're likely gonna come down at my head/shoulders, or swing wide at my torso/thighs. In either case I can wield my knife, and "actually catch" your bo staff, temporarily gaining control of it with it pinned between arm and body, or arm and shoulder, at which point I am able to place my knife anywhere, if I still am not close enough to your body, I can slash your arm/hand which will cause you to release the grip of the staff, then I go for the effective move.

So try to use your bo staff like a fist, and jab the blunt end into my throat, stomach or groin (in that order) Of course I will try to deflect or parry, but you will have opportunities for follow up shots that a wide swing recovery will not allow.

This is all taught in modern army basic, but sometimes I like to watch the old training videos, its hilarious how they make such light levity out of deadly hand-to-hand combat, because back in 1940, even when you were teaching 17 year old boys how to rip a jap's throat out, they still had to make videos that avoided this grim reality. When i went through it, instructors were like, "If you fuck this up, then you die and you're a waste of my time" they said that alot.

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[Danth]

That was a very good video you linked. My old man was in the Navy Seabees during the war; from what I gathered they went to the same boot camp the Marines did, but weren't treated quite so poorly (Dad repeatedly described the Marines as being treated "worse than dogs," in his words.). Likely as not he would've seen that video.

Main thing that applies to civilian situations is--move. Don't have lead feet. Best way to not be injured by a weapon is be someplace it isn't. I agree about keeping the club/baton/whatever between you and the other man as much as possible. Dramatic wide swings not only leave you wide open but also look really bad if someone else catches it on camera and shows it to jury sympathetic to the other side.

The situation of an assailant attacking with surprise from within ~10 feet is sticky business. Even if you have a pistol, you don't have time to react and draw. Got any ideas about that?

Danth

[Trexller]

That was a very good video you linked. My old man was in the Navy Seabees during the war; from what I gathered they went to the same boot camp the Marines did, but weren't treated quite so poorly (Dad repeatedly described the Marines as being treated "worse than dogs," in his words.). Likely as not he would've seen that video.

Main thing that applies to civilian situations is--move. Don't have lead feet. Best way to not be injured by a weapon is be someplace it isn't. I agree about keeping the club/baton/whatever between you and the other man as much as possible. Dramatic wide swings not only leave you wide open but also look really bad if someone else catches it on camera and shows it to jury sympathetic to the other side.

The situation of an assailant attacking with surprise from within ~10 feet is sticky business. Even if you have a pistol, you don't have time to react and draw. Got any ideas about that?

Danth

Yeah i love how those old training videos work so hard to avoid describing the actual horror of having to kill with a knife. I dunno what good that would have done, because those boys in ww2 would see those videos, go through their training, and then have to apply it against Japs who felt like it was their duty to die, as long as they took an american down with them. just a total disconnect from reality.

Well forgetting the uhh forget the specific names, the plastic holsters with the quick release, Thats a fast draw, and even if you have to draw from a leather holster with a strap holding the weapon in place, or say from an ankle holster, you'll drop straight down and roll onto your back, buying you that 1.5 second to draw.

If im carrying and I get jumped up close, ~10 feet, my first instinct is gonna be to put my body between them and the gun, if its on my right hip, I'll put my left hip into the assailant. making quick shots at the throat, or pushing my fingers into their eye sockets, at the same time I would want to draw with my right, and press the muzzle into their center mass and double tap.

thats if I feel like deadly force is required, if some unarmed idiot is tryin to start a shoving match, im just gonna step on one of their feet, then push them to the ground and nicely, I mean it, Nicely advise that they change their course of action. I would then state that nobody really wants to fight. Back in the day I was disappointed that I never got a "downrange" deployment. These days I am thankful that I was never put into a position where I had to kill another human.

De-escalation is always better than someone ending up dead, even if its some shit bag street punk who would kill you, given the chance.

Of course this is all typed out from the comforts of my home, real world situations are dynamic and fast changing, with adrenaline surging through your brain while fight or flight instincts try to take over.

Can't ever be sure how you will perform, until faced with another person who intends to cause you harm.

I've had my share of brawls, and formal training, so this is me speaking from that experience. There was one time that some dude drove up and pulled a gun on my friends and I while drinking on a porch, we just went inside and called the cops.

[unsunghero]

Stopped watching when John Oliver claimed that putting 1 SRO at schools at least once per week was an improvement to school security we made in the past. I’m sure he went on to claim that because these shootings still happen, that improving school security failed

That is a moronic claim. A single person who isn’t even fucking THERE possibly 4 out of 5 school days to guard up to 5,000 people is an improvement to school security? Get out of here with that bullshit

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=KgwqQGvYt0g

[Reiwa]

Stopped watching when John Oliver claimed that putting 1 SRO at schools at least once per week was an improvement to school security we made in the past. I’m sure he went on to claim that because these shootings still happen, that improving school security failed

That is a moronic claim. A single person who isn’t even fucking THERE possibly 4 out of 5 school days to guard up to 5,000 people is an improvement to school security? Get out of here with that bullshit

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=KgwqQGvYt0g

The threat of an armed presence is greater than the force of a single day armed presence, but I didn't click the video. :)

[starkind]

Panopticon obviously doesn't work when it's obvious that the bootheal isn't around the corner peepin in over u.

So far these school shooters don't seem interested in survival. Or positive outcomes even for themselves. So they are kind of hard to threaten. Maybe they'll switch to less defended targets tho. Honestly I don't fully get that part of their psychology why they go after defenseless people except they want to cause maximum pain and punish people or have trauma attached to children and schools.

SROs so far have proven easy prey. I don't think Americans truly have the mindset to excel at hunger games type events rly. That will only improve over lots of time and failures. Probably centuries. The likelihood people even call themselves American anymore or our culture is recognizable outside of 300 years is small. Not remote. Just small.

[unsunghero]

The threat of an armed presence is greater than the force of a single day armed presence, but I didn't click the video. :)

His videos are very progressive and sometimes still humorous. If you haven’t become a fan of John Oliver, you likely will if you watch enough of them