14 Children and Teacher Killed in Texas Elementary School Shooting

[Reiwa]

Again, you're an idiot. An gnat is closer to a child than an early-stage fetus: it has far more mass, more cells, more intelligence, etc.

The pending Dobbs ruling is 15 weeks.

[Elizondo]

Only someone with truly low intelligence could equate a fetus (a bundle of microscopic cells) to a child.

Dems want abortion up to the moment of birth

Strawman fail

[Mblake1981]

Abortion = more American deaths than any war or gun related issue. Loramin is OK with that.

Guns = less American deaths than any abortion related issue. Loramin is NOT OK with that.

[Elizondo]

Abortion = more American deaths than any war or gun related issue. Loramin is OK with that.

Guns = less American deaths than any abortion related issue. Loramin is NOT OK with that.

Kid killed outside mother's womb = OMG we need to take away your Constitutional Rights!

Preventing Kid killed inside mother's womb = OMG you're taking away Constitutional Rights!

[loramin]

Abortion = more American deaths than any war or gun related issue. Loramin is OK with that.

Guns = less American deaths than any abortion related issue. Loramin is NOT OK with that.

Deaths of people = bad. Deaths of clumps of cells smaller than a gnat = not bad. Mblake has a hard time understanding this.

[Elizondo]

Deaths of people = bad. Deaths of clumps of cells smaller than a gnat = not bad. Mblake has a hard time understanding this.

Dude just stop

You're embarrassing yourself

[Mblake1981]

Deaths of people = bad. Deaths of clumps of cells smaller than a gnat = not bad. Mblake has a hard time understanding this.

https://www.project1999.com/forums/showpost.php?p=3266446&postcount=691

(You got me once through your tranny-agents, well played but not twice)

[Rethalis]

Deaths of people = bad. Deaths of clumps of cells smaller than a gnat = not bad. Mblake has a hard time understanding this.

You can be fined for harvesting sea turtle eggs up to 25,000$. Those are just a clump of cells.

[Reiwa]

You can be fined for harvesting sea turtle eggs up to 25,000$. Those are just a clump of cells.

Who you steal this from? Was it the state senator from like Missouri with the waiting period heckle?

[Rethalis]

Who you steal this from? Was it the state senator from like Missouri with the waiting period heckle?

I don't know what senator, I heard it on the radio. Its a fine point. I think eagle eggs were mentioned too.

[loramin]

You can be fined for harvesting sea turtle eggs up to 25,000$. Those are just a clump of cells.

Right because sea turtles are endangered. Our humans endangered?

[Rethalis]

Right because sea turtles are endangered. Our humans endangered?

So you recognize that the sea turtle egg is a sea turtle life then?

[Reiwa]

I don't know what senator, I heard it on the radio. Its a fine point. I think eagle eggs were mentioned too.

Ah, Steve Daines. (https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2022/05/steve-daines-sea-turtle-eggs-abortion)

Zoo animal euthanasia waiting period guy was Bob Onder. (https://www.teenvogue.com/story/republican-legislators-say-women-should-have-abortion-at-zoo)

[Horza]

Kid killed outside mother's womb = OMG we need to take away your Constitutional Rights!

Preventing Kid killed inside mother's womb = OMG you're taking away Constitutional Rights!

It's starting to seem like conservative morons like yourself find out what the overwhelming majority of voters want and then say the opposite.

[Duik]

Sea turtle eggs are technically wanted and looked after (in the way sea turtles do) so a human "aborting" them by takingem != a human imcubated potential life. It is an entirely different thing.
Animals will and do "abort" living malformed offspring. Also animals will decide its better to choose one offspring and "abort" another if conditions become less than optimal.
Bad analogy.
Must get better.
In other words, you wanna control others. Somethingorother
I want my guns and I'll bring up ANY point to keepem.
Again, bringing up unrelated things to justify guns(which I believe are of use to the USA cuz cops are fucked) but only if allowed to by the state.
You all need to arm yaselves and kill anyone with a differing point of view.
Until now, its all just pissing into the wind.

Just had a closer look at the faux graphic of what to do to stop gun violence.
God figured prominantly.
Hows that been going for yas so far?
Pray that bad man doesnt kill me, n if he does imma get me a first class ticket to heaven. Fucking great plan.
Anywho, enjoy your shoot show.

Also also, earlier i read old mate shooter had like 10k worth of equipé.
Is that fucking true? If so thats gold.
Is an off duty border guard a private citizen? Of so, he should have been told to stand down by the heroic TexMex police orifacers.

[Elizondo]

It's starting to seem like conservative morons like yourself find out what the overwhelming majority of voters want and then say the opposite.

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[loramin]

So you recognize that the sea turtle egg is a sea turtle life then?

No, it's a potential life.

Look, I've got a $20 in my pocket. If I go to Vegas I might be able to turn that $20 in to a million dollars, if I'm lucky.

The $20 in my pocket is not a million dollars!

It doesn't matter if it has the potential to be a million bucks ... it's still just $20 now. Likewise, a fetus is not a child, and thinking the two are the same means you can't tell $20 from a million.

[Rethalis]

Sea turtle eggs are technically wanted and looked after (in the way sea turtles do) so a human "aborting" them by takingem != a human imcubated potential life. It is an entirely different thing.
Animals will and do "abort" living malformed offspring. Also animals will decide its better to choose one offspring and "abort" another if conditions become less than optimal.
Bad analogy.
Must get better.
In other words, you wanna control others. Somethingorother
I want my guns and I'll bring up ANY point to keepem.
Again, bringing up unrelated things to justify guns(which I believe are of use to the USA cuz cops are fucked) but only if allowed to by the state.
You all need to arm yaselves and kill anyone with a differing point of view.
Until now, its all just pissing into the wind.

federal government - recognizes killing embryonic turtles is bad

federal government - does not recognize that killing embryonic humans is bad

federal government - recognizes that turtle eggs is a turtle life

federal government - does not recognize that human children in-ureto is a human life.

[Gustoo]

So if the logic is so simple, let's use it to save childrens lives.

Saving lives from bullets does not save overall lives. There are other methods of killing. How many times do we need to circle around the fact that you won’t acknowledge there is no data anywhere that indicates an actual increase in safety by removing guns to any plausible degree whether a full ban or “common sense” restrictions.

The only data is useless stuff like you’ve cited. If there were no guns then bullets couldn’t fly out of them. Everyone already knows that.

[loramin]

Saving lives from bullets does not save overall lives. There are other methods of killing. How many times do we need to circle around the fact that you won’t acknowledge there is no data anywhere that indicates an actual increase in safety by removing guns to any plausible degree whether a full ban or “common sense” restrictions.

The only data is useless stuff like you’ve cited. If there were no guns then bullets couldn’t fly out of them. Everyone already knows that.

If only there was other data out there about what happens when you have sensible gun laws like ... I dunno, maybe ... every other modern country on the planet?

Once again ... The U.S. is uniquely terrible at protecting children from gun violence (https://www.npr.org/2022/05/28/1101307932/texas-shooting-uvalde-gun-violence-children-teenagers).

[Rethalis]

No, it's a potential life.

Look, I've got a $20 in my pocket. If I go to Vegas I might be able to turn that $20 in to a million dollars, if I'm lucky.

The $20 in my pocket is not a million dollars!

It doesn't matter if it has the potential to be a million bucks ... it's still just $20 now. Likewise, a fetus is not a child, and thinking the two are the same means you can't tell $20 from a million.

You seriously trying to say that a human fetus is not living?

[Horza]

Saving lives from bullets does not save overall lives. There are other methods of killing. How many times do we need to circle around the fact that you won’t acknowledge there is no data anywhere that indicates an actual increase in safety by removing guns to any plausible degree whether a full ban or “common sense” restrictions.

The only data is useless stuff like you’ve cited. If there were no guns then bullets couldn’t fly out of them. Everyone already knows that.

You can't seriously think a single kid would have been able to barricade himself in a classroom and execute over a dozen people with a knife or a club. I know most conservatives are generally very stupid, but I really find it hard to believe you guys are that dumb.

[Gustoo]

My name is Loramin I have an irrational phobia of guns, I think the nation should accommodate my needs by revoking the second amendment because i decree that no one needs guns

My name is Loramins sister, I have an irrational phobia of spoken word and expressed thought by others, I think the nation should accommodate my needs by revoking the first amendment because everyone can get on just as well if we keep our thoughts to ourselves.

The government controls media messaging anyways so what’s the point of the first amendment especially when it means I have to experience something I have decreed to be hate speech.

[Duik]

federal government - recognizes killing embryonic turtles is bad

federal government - does not recognize that killing embryonic humans is bad

federal government - recognizes that turtle eggs is a turtle life

federal government - does not recognize that human children in-ureto is a human life.

Federal government recognizes aborting a WANTED BY THE SEA TURTLE as bad.

federal government - is trying recognize that UNWANTED FOR INDIVIDUAL REASONS human children in-ureto is allowed to be aborted for "reasons" not related to your god or your (unwanted and unwelcome in this case) opinion.

There fixed it for you.

[Gustoo]

If only there was other data out there about what happens when you have sensible gun laws like ... I dunno, maybe ... every other modern country on the planet?

Once again ... The U.S. is uniquely terrible at protecting children from gun violence (https://www.npr.org/2022/05/28/1101307932/texas-shooting-uvalde-gun-violence-children-teenagers).

Gun death reduction doesn’t indicate overall death reduction.

Again no one needs data to indicate less guns means less gun deaths. It’s a logical certainty.

Seriously do you need help outside of the message boards?

[loramin]

Gun death reduction doesn’t indicate overall death reduction.

Again no one needs data to indicate less guns means less gun deaths. It’s a logical certainty.

Seriously do you need help outside of the message boards?

Do you have some evidence that non-gun violent deaths are higher in other countries?

[loramin]

You seriously trying to say that a human fetus is not living?

No, that's nothing like what I said at all. You are truly not a smart person if you can't read a paragraph without understanding it.

[loramin]

My name is Loramin I have an irrational phobia of guns, I think the nation should accommodate my needs by revoking the second amendment because i decree that no one needs guns

My name is Loramins sister, I have an irrational phobia of spoken word and expressed thought by others, I think the nation should accommodate my needs by revoking the first amendment because everyone can get on just as well if we keep our thoughts to ourselves.

The government controls media messaging anyways so what’s the point of the first amendment especially when it means I have to experience something I have decreed to be hate speech.

Childish, but what should I expect from someone who's arguing for the death of (actual, living/breathing) human children.

[Gustoo]

Do you have some evidence that non-gun violent deaths are higher in other countries?

I dunno, maybe. Im not trying to deprive myself or others of a constitutional right so I haven’t been doing that kinda digging. .

[Gustoo]

Childish, but what should I expect from someone who's arguing for the death of (actual, living/breathing) human children.

Great response.

Horza despite your relatively poor performance in this thread you’ve officially been promoted to second worst poster on the message board.

[loramin]

I dunno, maybe. Im not trying to deprive myself or others of a constitutional right so I haven’t been doing that kinda digging. .

So, there's a mountain of scientific evidence that we could be saving kids' lives with reasonable gun control laws, and there's proof in countless other countries that such laws do save lives ... but because you fantasize (with zero evidence) that those countries have mythical higher death statistics ... let's keep letting American children die?

[Horza]

I dunno, maybe. Im not trying to deprive myself or others of a constitutional right so I haven’t been doing that kinda digging. .

That's a no, but I'm too embarrassed to admit that I'm full of shit and just making things up to support my retarded argument.

[Gustoo]

Im signing off. Congrats to all the posters for participating in one of the rare public forum rant offs.

[Horza]

Im signing off. Congrats to all the posters for participating in one of the rare public forum rant offs.

Good riddance, go join Nirgon in whatever shithole Discord he uses since staff stopped letting him drop hard Js.

[Rethalis]

No, that's nothing like what I said at all. You are truly not a smart person if you can't read a paragraph without understanding it.

I did read it, but you want to make shit up like "potential life" Its either alive or its not.

[Reiwa]

Federal government recognizes aborting a WANTED BY THE SEA TURTLE as bad.

federal government - is trying recognize that UNWANTED FOR INDIVIDUAL REASONS human children in-ureto is allowed to be aborted for "reasons" not related to your god or your (unwanted and unwelcome in this case) opinion.

There fixed it for you.

Orphans? The turtle doesn't stay with the eggs.

[Gustoo]

That's a no, but I'm too embarrassed to admit that I'm full of shit and just making things up to support my retarded argument.

A relatively recent case study would be England. Like all gun statistics it’s hard to find real studies because disarmament is in favor of the authoritarian regime so no one is pushing to illuminate the fact that it only serves one purpose.

But that is a place you can look for answers to this question if youre really interested.

Again loramin you’re accusing me of doing what you’re doing. Your choosing the only bad option to be the primary focus of preventing school violence

[Reiwa]

Orphans? The turtle doesn't stay with the eggs.

There we go. Oviparous vs viviparous. That's why I don't like turtles for example.

[Horza]

A relatively recent case study would be England. Like all gun statistics it’s hard to find real studies because disarmament is in favor of the authoritarian regime so no one is pushing to illuminate the fact that it only serves one purpose.

But that is a place you can look for answers to this question if youre really interested.

Again loramin you’re accusing me of doing what you’re doing. Your choosing the only bad option to be the primary focus of preventing school violence

You didn't sign off for very long there at all, but we can probably continue this conversation in next week's mass shooting thread.

[Botten]

There we go. Oviparous vs viviparous. That's why I don't like turtles for example.

So what you going to go back to you old forum name now? Whale Biologist

[unsunghero]

You didn't sign off for very long there at all, but we can probably continue this conversation in next week's mass shooting thread.

ThIs Is tHe OnLy CoUnTrY wHeRe tHiS HaPpeNs!

[Duik]

Hahahaha it happened somewhere else so lets let it happen here. Again and again and again.
Arm yaselves so yas can stop das bad guy wit das gun.
Ask first though.

[Duik]

Also. Mexico full of rapists drug dealers and source of nasty women. I read that somewhere by an unimportant US (p)resident.

[Rethalis]

Also. Mexico full of rapists drug dealers and source of nasty women. I read that somewhere by an unimportant US (p)resident.

if only we had common sense boarder control

[Duik]

Never mind renthalis. It happened there. Its all good mate.
Also, learn sarcasm.
Also also, boarders living in ya house can be very dangerous. Like a hitchhiker for ya house.
You funny.

[Jibartik]

ThIs Is tHe OnLy CoUnTrY wHeRe tHiS HaPpeNs!

they meant only white country they just aren't allowed to say it

[Mblake1981]

Hahahaha it happened somewhere else so lets let it happen here. Again and again and again.
Arm yaselves so yas can stop das bad guy wit das gun.
Ask first though.

Crickey!

[TheBardo]

ThIs Is tHe OnLy CoUnTrY wHeRe tHiS HaPpeNs!

what the fuck is wrong with you?

[Gustoo]

I do regret what I said earlier though,

Loramin has contributed in actual ways to the p99 community, so it was wrong of me to say he took the worst poster title away from Horza.

I feel like whatever demon was making Jibartik act erratic found its way over to Loramin tho. Prayers for you, guy.

Someone send me a PM when an argument approaching rational is put forward to justify abandoning a constitutional right or really any right because the right is abused by deranged individuals and the authorities and our society fail utterly to compensate.

[Elizondo]

same morons that want to take your guns away want to defund the police

groomers so low iq

[starkind]

Everyone in America seems to think these cops should be more prepared for a kid randomly shooting his grandma barricading himself into a classroom and then killing all the hostages without negotiating.

lol what the f do you really think that America is so fucked up that regular police are supposed to be prepared to make zero mistakes for that? lol

If they busted in and he killed all the kids we’d be like oh you shouldn’t of rushed him! Use your words!

Americans Simply think everyone is their employee, and everyone of their employees sucks at their job and that everyone of their employees is a leech and then they go out and assault people because there are 320 million other people doing that to each other because that’s the way they do here!
I've given all the answers.

I'll do it one more time.

Bushido.
Mandatory military academy for all.
Mental, physical, and spiritual well-being is not an option. It's a duty. Failure or disability to meat these standards means you get a free pass to the back of the line. Public transportation only. Mandatory meal plans. Church. And no guns.
Failure = no shiny toys and a cleaning or gardening job Jib. Maybe no Xbox's either. Tho I believe those things are motivation for more ppl to remain productive than not. I.e. they save more lives than they take. Unlike drugs and junk food.

Hth again.

😘

[Reiwa]

I've given all the answers.

I'll do it one more time.

Bushido.
Mandatory military academy for all.
Mental, physical, and spiritual well-being is not an option. It's a duty. Failure or disability to meat these standards means you get a free pass to the back of the line. Public transportation only. Mandatory meal plans. Church. And no guns.
Failure = no shiny toys and a cleaning or gardening job Jib. Maybe no Xbox's either. Tho I believe those things are motivation for more ppl to remain productive than not. I.e. they save more lives than they take. Unlike drugs and junk food.

Hth again.

😘

If we prosecute the destroying of in ovum terrapins why can't we prosecute killing in vivo humans?

Similarly, if we prosecute gulls for murdering ex ovum turtles, we are required by the principles of non-hypocrisy to prosecute Republicans for killing ex vivo humans in school shootings.

This is the discourse. 🐢👶

[unsunghero]

what the fuck is wrong with you?

I just hear that a lot from Dems, that America is the only country where mass shootings happen

It’s not true, that kinda shit happens ALL THE TIME in places like Afghanistan, Syria, Somalia, Honduras, El Salvador, Mexico

So they could say it’s the only western 1st world country where it happens but that’s not true either

So they say well it happens here a lot more often, and yea, we have 330 million people so anything involving people is going to happen more often with more people

The only statistic that really matters is the frequency of occurrence per capita, which is normalized for population size

[Mblake1981]

Similarly, if we prosecute gulls for murdering ex ovum turtles, we are required by the principles of non-hypocrisy to prosecute Republicans for killing ex vivo humans in school shootings.

Precedent already set for slippery slope, I mean look at Roe V. Wade.. something put in for a rape victim (who lied about rape) but was later turned into murder for simple convenience. It's not a stretch that the same thing is being done again with this.

[unsunghero]

Precedent already set for slippery slope, I mean look at Roe V. Wade.. something put in for a rape victim (who lied about rape) but was later turned into murder for simple convenience. It's not a stretch that the same thing is being done again with this.

“Safe, rare, and legal” turned into “if you don’t like your baby’s gender, throw the fetus in the trash and re-roll”

[unsunghero]

From first hit on Google. Has this already been posted?

“Average (Mean) Annual Death Rate per Million People from Mass Public Shootings (U.S., Canada, and Europe, 2009-2015):

Norway — 1.888
Serbia — 0.381
France — 0.347
Macedonia — 0.337
Albania — 0.206
Slovakia — 0.185
Switzerland — 0.142
Finland — 0.132
Belgium — 0.128
Czech Republic — 0.123
United States — 0.089
Austria — 0.068
Netherlands — 0.051
Canada — 0.032
England — 0.027
Germany — 0.023
Russia — 0.012
Italy — 0.009

In addition, a 2018 CRPC study ranked the U.S. at number sixty-four in the world in terms of mass shooting rates per capita”

https://worldpopulationreview.com/country-rankings/mass-shootings-by-country

[unsunghero]

Let’s check just gun violence per country per capita

Surely the US has to be leading there, right, with all our evil guns everywhere?

“Countries with the Highest Rates of Violent Gun Death (Homicides) per 100k residents in 2019

El Salvador — 36.78
Venezuela — 33.27
Guatemala — 29.06
Colombia — 26.36
Brazil — 21.93
Bahamas — 21.52
Honduras — 20.15
U.S. Virgin Islands — 19.40
Puerto Rico — 18.14
Mexico — 16.41”

https://worldpopulationreview.com/country-rankings/gun-deaths-by-country


Hey, where’s the USA??!

[unsunghero]

Mandatory military academy for all.
Mental, physical, and spiritual well-being is not an option. It's a duty. Failure or disability to meat these standards means you get a free pass to the back of the line

I like the start of this. Not sure what back of the line is though

I’d add: Limits to screen time per person. You get a few hours per day looking at your phone or computer screen and that’s it. Screen turns off and no way to jail break it

Have to find some other kind of a life

[Duik]

Its about shooting children.
No wonder you cant fix this shit.

Statement: Thur wurnt tur turk yur gurns.
This is a good start, at least its aboit guns.
Reality: Some do, most thinking people realise that aint never gonna happen. Cuz reasons. Usa is different from you.
One reason is the perseved We needem cuz we fink everyone is out to get us OR is simply a paste eating groomer (that one's for you Elizondope) that wurnts tur turk ur gurnz.
At least this is about guns.
Look over there, it happened in anuva cunt tree. So its all good.
Again, a lil bit about actual guns and lends support to KEEPING GUNS FREE TO ROAM in the US. (*if yas are allpwed to usem*)
Abortion bad look over there turtle eggs are babies too. Roe vs Wade yadda yadda deflect paste eater godless groomer.
Close! But no cigar.
Guns. Shooting. How about nailing down the ability to use yur gurnz within the existing rules. Absolving the po po of any responsibility of you choose to go in. There, thats a start. Also, shoulda said there was a school desk (property) in danger of being shot. Cops woulda stormed right in. Theoretically.
Now ya just geten silly mate.
Or am I?

[unsunghero]

Also, shoulda said there was a school desk (property) in danger of being shot. Cops woulda stormed right in. Theoretically

Or next school shooting to get a better police response instead of calling it a school shooting say that there’s some conservative parents who are upset about what the teachers are discussing with their kids

Police will swarm that shit ;)

[Duik]

Dont like what's being discussed at a public school? Protect your precious progeny by

Sendingem to a god school! That was one of the suggestions in a graphic from a reputable opinion service
Neeeeext.

[Mblake1981]

Its about shooting children.
No wonder you cant fix this shit.

Statement: Thur wurnt tur turk yur gurns.
This is a good start, at least its aboit guns.
Reality: Some do, most thinking people realise that aint never gonna happen. Cuz reasons. Usa is different from you.
One reason is the perseved We needem cuz we fink everyone is out to get us OR is simply a paste eating groomer (that one's for you Elizondope) that wurnts tur turk ur gurnz.
At least this is about guns.
Look over there, it happened in anuva cunt tree. So its all good.
Again, a lil bit about actual guns and lends support to KEEPING GUNS FREE TO ROAM in the US. (*if yas are allpwed to usem*)
Abortion bad look over there turtle eggs are babies too. Roe vs Wade yadda yadda deflect paste eater godless groomer.
Close! But no cigar.
Guns. Shooting. How about nailing down the ability to use yur gurnz within the existing rules. Absolving the po po of any responsibility of you choose to go in. There, thats a start. Also, shoulda said there was a school desk (property) in danger of being shot. Cops woulda stormed right in. Theoretically.
Now ya just geten silly mate.
Or am I?

_veZq2uAm2E

[Duik]

Again with the racism.
It's true. I do come from a land down under.
Just guessing. Havent seen that one.
So much Simpsons.
So little time.

Bugga. Who can it be now.
You become worse at guessing (0)
You cannot get any worse at guessing.

[Jibartik]

oh cool you're the Australian race?

[Duik]

No fucktard. Indigenous Australian. Aka Aboriginal. I know right, being wrong sucks arse. Is why i said racial, but also note there was no malice cuz how were you to know. But now ya do.
Woop woop, wagga wagga. I am the very definition of a ***** luva. Unt proud.

[Duik]

Oops did i say a bad word? Myactual apologies.

[Jibartik]

in crocodile Dundee they made you guys out to be super chill guess that was the racism cus its not true?

[Duik]

Just showing that cultural appropriation occurs whether its intended or not. A girl playing a digeridoo can be interpreted as offensive. But, we are chill enough to ignore your ignorance. Today, for me, not so much.
Also all americans are the same no?
So your (unintendedly offensive) comment of you are portrayed as chill in a movie is somewhat, racist.
Nvm. We can all learn.
As i have. Initially i thought just take dem guns off dem fuckers. But after reading some, listening to the sentiments here and suspending my disbelief somewhat i realise you do in fact needem cuz cultural reasons.
Good luck and remember, culture comes in all different shapes.

[Jibartik]

Its not her fault you named it a digery do.

[starkind]

If we prosecute the destroying of in ovum terrapins why can't we prosecute killing in vivo humans?

Similarly, if we prosecute gulls for murdering ex ovum turtles, we are required by the principles of non-hypocrisy to prosecute Republicans for killing ex vivo humans in school shootings.

This is the discourse. 🐢👶

Should I be defensive? Ppl are welcome to be Republicans or Democrats.

What they aren't welcome to be is dishonorable.

[starkind]

If you are offended about 'cultural appropriation" I literally have no time for u and u r probably a racist who thinks cultures shouldn't mix, change, or merge. Or share. Or whatever.

[Gustoo]

Let’s check just gun violence per country per capita

Surely the US has to be leading there, right, with all our evil guns everywhere?

“Countries with the Highest Rates of Violent Gun Death (Homicides) per 100k residents in 2019

El Salvador — 36.78
Venezuela — 33.27
Guatemala — 29.06
Colombia — 26.36
Brazil — 21.93
Bahamas — 21.52
Honduras — 20.15
U.S. Virgin Islands — 19.40
Puerto Rico — 18.14
Mexico — 16.41”

https://worldpopulationreview.com/country-rankings/gun-deaths-by-country


Hey, where’s the USA??!

This site also provides data about suicide rates which is why I mentioned it is literally the only area that gun policy would be likely to have a statistically significant increase in safety, because of the nature of suicide and the unique convenience of a gun in hand.

But evangelical true believer religious persons like Horza and Loramin can't be fooled by reality when it comes to their belief in a fear of guns. It's part of their identity and it would take something directly impacting their personal lives to have any chance of redirecting their fervent passions. Stats like you posted above are easy to find, just like basic stats (not robust popular studies) about the impact of total disarmament in England.

It's a nuanced discussion that is not easy to have when everyone has their eyes clenched closed and their fists are flailing.

In the USA a popular but misleading stat to say is something like "we have 10 school shootings a year!!!" but 10/10 of those are a gun going off in a school parking lot. The exceptions are cases like the one that started this thread, that we all talk about. It's not like there are mass murders that go under the radar. This is bread and butter for the news outlets and not a single event of this nature goes unreported. So data, even the link above can certainly be collected in a way to make the statistics less straight forward than they seem. This is a basic life skill that seems commonly swept aside when it comes to these kinds of arguments because everyone just starts throwing flak around to dodge actual discussions.

The reality is that democrat and republican leadership don't give a shit about public safety, not about school safety and not about childrens safety, especially not about public school children. We had robust opportunities to make policy in one way or another when both parties captured the presidency and both houses and both parties did absolutely nothing with it. Status quo is the goal. Your kids losing your lives are just collateral damage, and they don't give a fuck. They're happy to see you abandon your rights though, so maybe if you do that you can appease your overlords.

[Jibartik]

...when everyone has their eyes clenched closed and their fists are flailing.

Yeah this isn't the actual reason people mass kill at all. It's gotta be the guns.

[robayon]

The reality is that democrat and republican leadership don't give a shit about public safety, not about school safety and not about childrens safety, especially not about public school children. We had robust opportunities to make policy in one way or another when both parties captured the presidency and both houses and both parties did absolutely nothing with it. Status quo is the goal. Your kids losing your lives are just collateral damage, and they don't give a fuck. They're happy to see you abandon your rights though, so maybe if you do that you can appease your overlords.Precisely. If their goal is to disarm an increasingly agitated populace, all they have to do is nothing at the rate things are going

That or it all goes the other way and armed insurrection breaks out, but they've scored the lines on that one and the breaks will go as expected: political party loyalty (just look at this forum) and/or race. Plus, they don't have to worry about their safety all that much, that's what cops and militaries are for, to protect people like them

No war but the class war

[Jibartik]

Hmm class war? I dont think so. It's the guns and I will go to war with your (our) class over it.

[unsunghero]

Who’s weak?

This guy looks like a terminal Stage 4 cancer patient

[Jibartik]

Some big guy was screaming at me trying to fight yesterday because he thought I stole his parking spot and all I could think about was how he would ruin my life if I didn't just let him scream at me.

I need a gun to protect myself from the regular people that go grocery shopping in this fucked up psycotic country people call a developed nation.

[unsunghero]

Some big guy was screaming at me trying to fight yesterday because he thought I stole his parking spot and all I could think about was how he would ruin my life if I didn't just let him scream at me.

I need a gun to protect myself from the regular people that go grocery shopping in this fucked up psycotic country people call a developed nation.

Realistically if he’s fat you could just outrun him. He might try to fuck up your vehicle you left behind if you did though

Did the right thing though, that’s what I woulda done. “Sorry man, you’re right I’m sorry” yadda yadda what they want to hear. Getting into a fight and winning it decisively is still losing once court gets involved

[Jibartik]

Everyone is out there going warewolf.

[Reiwa]

@duik

https://i.imgur.com/GkyM2b5.jpg

[Fame]

Shootings are awful and there is no singular solution. America is awful and there is no singular solution.

The politicians are elected by the people, if they suck, we suck.

Long live the second amendment.

utopia is a hippy myth and I'd rather be armed for self defense against multiple assailants than hope for the best

[Jibartik]

All I have to say is if monkey pox is a thing that like we all have to "deal" with then I can promise you 100% gun control is not worth it because the end will 100% be happening like the bible says.

[Mblake1981]

Shootings are awful and there is no singular solution. America is awful and there is no singular solution.

The politicians are elected by the people, if they suck, we suck.

Long live the second amendment.

utopia is a hippy myth and I'd rather be armed for self defense against multiple assailants than hope for the best

"Guns make me safe, bigger guns make me safer."

-Rex Colt

I like guns and don't ascribe them for militia or doom fantasies.

[Jibartik]

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[Jibartik]

This is why they dont stop immigration, they are flooding our streets with firearms with it:

https://www.reddit.com/r/Idiotswithguns/comments/v112sk/no_title/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x&context=3

I promise you this is true, just watch it will be a thing soon.

[unsunghero]

Ehhhh kinda weak argument

[Jibartik]

this like a 1990s rapture movie

1N37l62MV34

https://i.imgur.com/pjGDUiC.png

[unsunghero]

World will not forget its heroes

[Mblake1981]

_veZq2uAm2E

https://i.imgur.com/TomYFxT.png

[starkind]

Shootings are awful and there is no singular solution. America is awful and there is no singular solution.

The politicians are elected by the people, if they suck, we suck.

Long live the second amendment.

utopia is a hippy myth and I'd rather be armed for self defense against multiple assailants than hope for the best

Can pretty much agree with all that.

😎

[Jibartik]

press doesnt talk much about motive because it wasnt racial, and was because our conumer based society where everyone is the boss and bullying each other, yet again, was the common thread among all mass shootings.

Who was the Texas school shooter? His friends say, he was aggressive and violent by nature due to his uneasy childhood and school bullying incidents.

According to reports, the 18-year-old shooter was a lonely child who was bullied in school over speech impairment.

Read more at:
https://economictimes.indiatimes.com/news/international/us/who-was-the-18-year-old-texas-school-shooter-friends-say-salvador-rolando-ramos-was-bullied-as-a-child-grew-up-aggressive-and-violent/articleshow/91794272.cms?utm_source=contentofinterest&utm_medium=text&utm_campaign=cppst

I mean this is the plot to the JOKER movie.

What is the reaction of friends and family?
Santos Valdez claimed to know Ramon since they were friends.
Valdez said they used to be friends until Ramos' behavior worsened.
Valdez mentioned the park incident where Ramon came with cuts all over his face. Initially, Ramon said that a cat scratched his face, but later, he told the truth. According to Valdez, Ramos used a knife over his face again and again for fun.
There are repeated mentions of Ramos getting bullied in school for stutter and strong lisp.
Another one of Ramos's friends, Stephen Garcia, said Ramos was bullied badly over everything. He was bullied over his speech, social media, gaming and whatnot. Garcia called young Ramos a nice and shy kid who just needed to get out. According to Garcia, after he and his mother relocated to a different part of Texas, Ramos's situation kept deteriorating with time. After that, Ramos dropped out of school.

[Reiwa]

press doesnt talk much about motive because it wasnt racial, and was because our conumer based society where everyone is the boss and bullying each other, yet again, was the common thread among all mass shootings.

Both the shooter and the savior were Latinx?

Is this programming for the New American demographic? 🐦

[unsunghero]

Interesting if true, at least does appear to be per capita

[unsunghero]

Trudeau bans handgun sales in Canada today:

https://www.cbc.ca/amp/1.6470554

Deep wisdom from Teudeau: "But other than using firearms for sport shooting and for hunting, there is no reason anyone in Canada should need guns in their everyday lives."

Lolol so why do your armed guards need them?? I guess the concepts of crime and self-defense don’t exist in your utopia?

[Mblake1981]

Trudeau bans handgun sales in Canada today:

https://www.cbc.ca/amp/1.6470554

Deep wisdom from Teudeau: "But other than using firearms for sport shooting and for hunting, there is no reason anyone in Canada should need guns in their everyday lives."

Lolol so why do your armed guards need them?? I guess the concepts of crime and self-defense don’t exist in your utopia?

What else do you expect from a statist? that is their team and they look out for it.

[branamil]

Seeking the opinions of a bunch of disabled 45 year old elven LARPists is like trying to discuss philosophy in your local walmart parking lot.

[Reiwa]

What else do you expect from a statist? that is their team and they look out for it.

Maybe don't have a unitary executive. :p

https://i.imgur.com/UuwsDTI.gif

[robayon]

Seeking the opinions of a bunch of disabled 45 year old elven LARPists is like trying to discuss philosophy in your local walmart parking lot.I'm glad someone else understands the scope of this forum, at least

And I've been robbed in a Wal-Mart parking lot twice, and been arrested once

[Mblake1981]

Maybe don't have a unitary executive. :p

Wooded beardsmen getting their guns grabbed by an agnostic unitarian.

[starkind]

I know why some people shoot up schools. You don't want to hear it tho.

Jibartik is right.

[unsunghero]

I'm glad someone else understands the scope of this forum, at least

And I've been robbed in a Wal-Mart parking lot twice, and been arrested once

Robbed twice is pretty scary

I don’t carry a gun anywhere. Not on me, not in my car. Only if I camp, and only then if it’s going to be a rural area. We have lots of campgrounds with tons of people at them that are closest that I have camped many times at unarmed

I can outfight or outrun any threat, not worried about it. My dad is in a constant state of disappointment for buying me a 9mm more than 6 years ago that I have never shot once, not even in practice

But when I get old and frail I will probably carry. Women, especially alone at night in a sketchy area should carry. I see so many stories of women deciding to walk home at night from a bar unarmed that end up in pieces in the woods somewhere on the crime channels I watch

[Reiwa]

I see so many stories of women deciding to walk home at night from a bar unarmed that end up in pieces in the woods somewhere on the crime channels I watch

[unsunghero]

..

The interesting thing is out of the dozens and dozens of stories I’ve heard of abducted and murdered women, almost none are killed by a gun. The only memorable one I recently read was a serial killer picking up truck stop sex workers that executed them with a 22 shot to the head

The vast majority of women are either grabbed and man-handled forced into a car or talked into it. Then they are almost always strangled, second most common death seems to be beat with a blunt object. So being armed could have saved them

The caveat is that the person needs to be able to handle the gun quickly and confidently. I’m not sure if a girl with a gun sitting next to an adult man intent on killing her, if that gun can save her. What if he leads with a sucker punch to the nose? She gonna keep her wits about her to get that gun out in time? Let’s hope so…

[unsunghero]

So am I, it's not about militia, defense, gunning a robber, playing rape victim or using it as an extension of your hips.. that of course is all media horse shit.

But for real though, never shot it once?

Naw. I know my accuracy is gonna be shit. I need to at least oil it soon I’m guessing :/

[Ooloo]

If she has the gun, the odds are at least better that she won't be raped and dumped in a forest somewhere. Same for home invasion, same for small shrimpy dudes. But of course I agree that proper training and discipline are extremely important (and my guess would be most people who take the initiative to get a firearm take it pretty seriously and are pretty well trained and if not they should be).

[robayon]

Robbed twice is pretty scary

I don’t carry a gun anywhere. Not on me, not in my car. Only if I camp, and only then if it’s going to be a rural area. We have lots of campgrounds with tons of people at them that are closest that I have camped many times at unarmed

I can outfight or outrun any threat, not worried about it. My dad is in a constant state of disappointment for buying me a 9mm more than 6 years ago that I have never shot once, not even in practice

But when I get old and frail I will probably carry. Women, especially alone at night in a sketchy area should carry. I see so many stories of women deciding to walk home at night from a bar unarmed that end up in pieces in the woods somewhere on the crime channels I watchI keep my guns at home as well. However, I keep encouraging my wife to carry a pistol in her car, she's the one who is afraid of the rednecks around here, I can blend in with them pretty well but she didn't grow up in the south like me. She thought this shit was all the garbage they show you in country music videos until I actually moved us here (back here in my case), and then recently we moved to an even more exurban part of the metro area and she's afraid to go to Wal-Mart or the grocery store around here. She drove like 40 miles to go to Kroger last week in "civilization" as she puts it.

Her argument against it is that she's afraid someone will take it from her and just kill her with it, she's short and small

Nothing's perfect but I'd like to see her taking some shit like gouging people's eyes or ball kicking kind of defense classes. She always has knives on her though, it's come up at the airport several times

[unsunghero]

Yeah, do you have a starter cleaning kit? (cheap). Accuracy is something further down the chain and when practicing it can be a fun thing to challenge yourself with. But the truth is, a bad guy is not going to be 15-20 yards away. Accuracy is hitting the mass right in front of you, really just nerves and the will to do it before they get you.

Edit: hammerless revolver is the way to go.

Yeah I can check, I’m 90% sure it has a cleaning kit he gave me. It’s never been fired so it won’t have any residue that way, but I’m sure it probably needs some kinda oil by now

It’s not going be accurate at distance anyway. He got me the shortened nose kind meant for concealed carry (don’t need a license to conceal carry here, everyone can), no safety button on it. I think I have like 5-6 hollow points in 1 clip. If I miss with those, I’m gonna have to beat them with it. I’ve posted pic of it b4 here

[Ooloo]

Her argument against it is that she's afraid someone will take it from her and just kill her with it, she's short and small


Have you told her that if somebody is going to take her gun and kill her with it, they're probably willing to kill her some other way? Like seriously I know we argue in this forum all the time but I certainly don't want bad shit to actually happen to you or your family.

No mugger ever says "well I was gonna kill you if you had a gun in your purse that I could overpower from you, but since you don't please have a nice day instead!"

[unsunghero]

I keep my guns at home as well. However, I keep encouraging my wife to carry a pistol in her car, she's the one who is afraid of the rednecks around here, I can blend in with them pretty well but she didn't grow up in the south like me. She thought this shit was all the garbage they show you in country music videos until I actually moved us here (back here in my case), and then recently we moved to an even more exurban part of the metro area and she's afraid to go to Wal-Mart or the grocery store around here. She drove like 40 miles to go to Kroger last week in "civilization" as she puts it.

Her argument against it is that she's afraid someone will take it from her and just kill her with it, she's short and small

Nothing's perfect but I'd like to see her taking some shit like gouging people's eyes or ball kicking kind of defense classes. She always has knives on her though, it's come up at the airport several times

Yeah someone could get it and use it on her but the reality is if she’s petite they could just sit on her and strangle her too, so while the scenario of them getting her gun is reasonable, I don’t think that it is enough of a reason for her to give up on the idea

But yea ideally if she could take some self-defense and shooting classes that would be great

They do this training for my work because we work with sometimes aggressive psychotic clients on how to “break out” of most holds, and it’s complete bullshit. A few female co-workers that know me allowed me to use like 70% of my grip strength and force when we were practicing, which was beyond the light amount the instructor was having us practice with. None of the holds were they able to break away from

Going for the eyes and groin is like pepper spraying. I endorse it but it also means the attacker will be enraged after doing it so if she wasn’t in a fight for her life before doing it she will be after

[TheBardo]

OOOooolo dropping those TRUGH BOMBS , let’s fuckinggg GOOI HI CYF BC C C U FUU U GU K OK V I’MFHSSF JV HCC C F TOM HI H

[Jibartik]

I'm glad someone else understands the scope of this forum, at least

And I've been robbed in a Wal-Mart parking lot twice, and been arrested once

sounds more like the red server then.

[robayon]

Have you told her that if somebody is going to take her gun and kill her with it, they're probably willing to kill her some other way? Like seriously I know we argue in this forum all the time but I certainly don't want bad shit to actually happen to you or your family.

No mugger ever says "well I was gonna kill you if you had a gun in your purse that I could overpower from you, but since you don't please have a nice day instead!"I won't respond to any of your thoughts until you've responded to this

For your convenience: https://www.project1999.com/forums/showthread.php?p=3463615#post3463615

Yeah someone could get it and use it on her but the reality is if she’s petite they could just sit on her and strangle her too, so while the scenario of them getting her gun is reasonable, I don’t think that it is enough of a reason for her to give up on the idea

But yea ideally if she could take some self-defense and shooting classes that would be great doing it she will be afterI've tried this, that those will ill intent will kill you with their bare hands or a brick or a rock or a gun or a knife, and that having a gun may at least buy you some time... but I don't get anywhere. It's not even that weird of a crossover, she's a gym person, lots of history of violent encounters in her past work

But she sees those stars & bars and she gets shook up.

I'd like to leave the south

[Jibartik]

When you play everquest tho

BqQ5y4JD1Ck?t=1

[Duik]

If you are offended about 'cultural appropriation" I literally have no time for u and u r probably a racist who thinks cultures shouldn't mix, change, or merge. Or share. Or whatever.

So out of that whole post, all you took from it was waa waa you a racist.
No wonder yas cant or wont fix it. Wont even discuss it cogently.
Reading helps.

[Jibartik]

nobody: could it be bullying?

society: no, its the things they enjoy those losers should have it taken from them.

Cm_2S8E_UOI

[Duik]

@ Reiwa i dont get the bird war thing.

[Elizondo]

Folks that wanna take your guns are the same folks that want to put you in a gulag for not getting multiple jabs to stop the sniffles

[Mblake1981]

Folks that wanna take your guns are the same folks that want to put you in a gulag for not getting multiple jabs to stop the sniffles

Misery loves company.

[Reiwa]

@ Reiwa i dont get the bird war thing.

Emu war (https://youtu.be/BXpu6tbFCsI) ya dog cunt. 😛

[robayon]

Folks that wanna take your guns are the same folks that want to put you in a gulag for not getting multiple jabs to stop the snifflesyou were saying you wanted to put people in the gulag for a little protesting outside of the homes of supreme court justices the other day, elizondo

that's okay buddy i know you're completely full of shit, no amount of NPC catchphrases changes that

[Duik]

Haha. Dog cunt. Thats an insult to dogs, ya cunt!
I still dont get it. Im allowed to view youtube, but not hear it. Its a dog cunt thing i think.
Anywho, good luck with ya guns, fake monkey pox and supreme court judges. Also drugs, walls and the whole Red V Blue thing ya got happening there.
Back to silent movies (youtube) for me then while slowly being devoured by a DingCrocSnaBear. Sounds scrumptious, like a deadly TurDuckEn.

[Mblake1981]

ghCTZF61ey0

[Duik]

Im not a baby groomer im more a baby baster.
I love kids. Especially with white sauce.

[Mblake1981]

https://i.imgur.com/DIeCAdX.jpg

[Duik]

Confirmed. mBlake stalking my private pics on only fans.
Bastard.
P.S Fosters (the beer in question) is the shit beer we export to suckers who like dregs. Just sayin.

[Gustoo]

press doesnt talk much about motive because it wasnt racial, and was because our conumer based society where everyone is the boss and bullying each other, yet again, was the common thread among all mass shootings.



I mean this is the plot to the JOKER movie.

Joker movie and new Batman movie are designed to encourage this behavior. Not sure why but it was the main point of the joker movie which I didn’t see and the main point of the newest Batman movie that I did see.

Christopher Nolan movies are also generally playbooks for how to do acts of terror with methodologies and rationale.

If the states grooming anyone it’s grooming kids to commit violence

[Duik]

Mass shooter, why did you shoot those folk?
I'm Batman.

[Duik]

Went to church on sunday. Shot one person. Im still a mass murderer.
BadumBump.

[starkind]

Went to church on sunday. Shot one person. Im still a mass murderer.
BadumBump.

Whydchu only shot wun?

[Duik]

Under achiever? I dunno. Prolly lazy. Still got the title.
You can pick.

[Duik]

A man in Orange county was found dead with a banana shoved up his arse, his face in his unfinished bowl of FrootLoops.
Police are searching for a cereal killer.

[starkind]

Was probably the toxins in the fruit loops and fruity loop packaging. Combined with satanic programming and tucan sam r34.

[starkind]

😶😢

https://www.project1999.com/forums/showthread.php?t=403746

:o 🤗
:cool:

[Jibartik]

H3H3, someone with family in israel, said someone should bomb the NRA building on his youtube channel.

Like not as a joke, like he said, someone should do it.

God damn I love the tribulation!

[unsunghero]

A man in Orange county was found dead with a banana shoved up his arse, his face in his unfinished bowl of FrootLoops.
Police are searching for a cereal killer.

I watch these crime documentaries, and there was a story of a 12yr old who killed a little kid, like a 6yr old, left the body in the woods. The 12yr old killer (might have gotten his age wrong but he was young) in addition to disfiguring the body in ways I won’t go into here, ate most of the victim’s lunch out of his lunchbox, but rather than eat the banana, he squished it

Police investigators recruited the help of a teacher after suspecting the murder was by a student, who offered bananas to all their classes. The kid that refused his banana was identified to police and did end up turning out to be the killer after being investigated further

[Reiwa]

I watch these crime documentaries, and there was a story of a 12yr old who killed a little kid, like a 6yr old, left the body in the woods. The 12yr old killer (might have gotten his age wrong but he was young) in addition to disfiguring the body in ways I won’t go into here, ate most of the victim’s lunch out of his lunchbox, but rather than eat the banana, he squished it

Police investigators recruited the help of a teacher after suspecting the murder was by a student, who offered bananas to all their classes. The kid that refused his banana was identified to police and did end up turning out to be the killer after being investigated further

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eric_Smith_(murderer)

[Gustoo]

Looks like he was just released. That length of time in prison is nuts.

[Jibartik]

sounds like will smiths lost twin brother

edit: Smith enjoyed spending time with his grandparents, Red and Edie Wilson; Red said "He would always come in and give us hugs and kisses. He liked being a clown."[3]

oh man we got a joker over here.

edit edit: man this story is horrible and feel super bad for that poor mother but god damn look, yet again American branded bullying is there (even when guns are not): A defense psychiatrist testified to diagnosing Smith with intermittent explosive disorder, a mental disorder causing individuals to be violent and unpredictable. However, the prosecution's expert said this was a rare disorder that was rarely seen at Smith's age.[3]

[Mattson]

H3H3, someone with family in israel, said someone should bomb the NRA building on his youtube channel.

Like not as a joke, like he said, someone should do it.

God damn I love the tribulation!

You saw the out of context clip... literally less than a second after saying that he says he's joking.

[unsunghero]

H3H3 seems like the type of dude to invite you on his show and act like your friend while secretly making fun of you, then talk mad shit about you after you leave

Dude’s treacherous

[starkind]

I watch these crime documentaries, and there was a story of a 12yr old who killed a little kid, like a 6yr old, left the body in the woods. The 12yr old killer (might have gotten his age wrong but he was young) in addition to disfiguring the body in ways I won’t go into here, ate most of the victim’s lunch out of his lunchbox, but rather than eat the banana, he squished it

Police investigators recruited the help of a teacher after suspecting the murder was by a student, who offered bananas to all their classes. The kid that refused his banana was identified to police and did end up turning out to be the killer after being investigated further
Personally I'm all for euthanasia in these cases. As a mercy.. I would even accept it if they came for me.

It's not about vengeance. Or even justice.. There is no coming back from that. At any age as a perpetrator. Those memories will haunt him his whole life if he's even capable of caring. No matter what you believe. If we where a perfect Christian society and not a satanic cult worshiping society we'd put him in a safe high security religious facility tho to repent. And teach about his experience. Until death of natural causes. As G-d would care for him.

Things like this are a failing of our society. His parents should also have been sterilized and incarcerated forever.

What often happens to the people in these cases after release? Die in the gutter? Psychosis? Suicide? I'm sure there's data on it.

The dude will not be able to socialize at 5'3" or have a normal life after 27 years in prison. They are fucking him over and putting other ppl at risk. Passing the buck on responsibility. Where are his parents?

[Jibartik]

You saw the out of context clip... literally less than a second after saying that he says he's joking.

You mean the context of literally after his editor demands he walk it back, and he goes "that was too much? I should walk it back? Ok I was joking"

[unsunghero]

You mean the context of literally after his editor demands he walk it back, and he goes "that was too much? I should walk it back? Ok I was joking"

He did get banned for a week I believe

He’d never get permabanned though. Dude could say to kill all GOP every day, he’s like personal friends with YouTube’s CEO and a member of the correct political party

[Jibartik]

Ever wonder if the problems we have in americ are that this guy:

https://i.imgur.com/GO5exKf.png

Represents the political voice of a large majority of our nation.

https://i.imgur.com/krINAv0.gif

Like could it be any more obvious that the previous generations were all right?

The one that was following them was indeed worse than theirs?

[starkind]

Ever wonder if the problems we have in americ are that this guy:

https://i.imgur.com/GO5exKf.png

Represents the political voice of a large majority of our nation.

What is this guys political position?

[starkind]

Drugs are Satan just like plastic btw.

[Jibartik]

He's just a comedian talking about politics.

I just think if you line him up with his predecessors you'd see a nice linier decline, as if the phrase, "your generation is worse than mine" was true, but for all generations.

[starkind]

He's just a comedian talking about politics.

I just think if you line him up with his predecessors you'd see a nice linier decline, as if the phrase, "your generation is worse than mine" was true, but for all generations.

I wouldn't care to let him live in my society. He doesn't look like someone who could follow a social contract. Send him to live with the barbarians.

[robayon]

He did get banned for a week I believe

He’d never get permabanned though. Dude could say to kill all GOP every day, he’s like personal friends with YouTube’s CEO and a member of the correct political partyNow just imagine you're a former president who is connected to multiple billionaires, only two thirds of whom were on the Lolita Express

I don't watch H3H3 but that's the sliding scale of justice for rich and connected folks, and it comes up all the time

[cd288]

Imagine thinking that the second amendment is still relevant today lol. It was about making sure people could own muskets to help rebel against a potentially tyrannical government that was also armed with muskets.

It has zero relevancy today. If the government wanted to take over the country by armed force and impose a dictator, none of you morons with your gun collection are going to be able to stop them. And the actual weapons you'd need to stop them are, guess what...wait for it...ILLEGAL for you to purchase lol

[robayon]

I am fine with the second amendment

But let's interpret it literally and make the only guns to legally own muzzle loading muskets or whatever the hell they had in 1787 or some shit. And that if you use a gun the odds of you dying of dysentery go up by ten thousand percent

In before the gun nerds say Actually black powder pistols blah blah

[Reiwa]

I am fine with the second amendment

But let's interpret it literally and make the only guns to legally own muzzle loading muskets or whatever the hell they had in 1787 or some shit. And that if you use a gun the odds of you dying of dysentery go up by ten thousand percent

In before the gun nerds say Actually black powder pistols blah blah

https://i.imgur.com/C8Y9FzZ.jpg

[Jibartik]

lets amend the 2nd amendment because it's too dangerous.

but lets also limit the 1st amendment because the pen is mightier than the sword.

can we agree to do this? I mean if we do the 2nd, then there is absolutely no reason to not do the 1st.

Also secrets are what enable corruption so the 4th can be reigned in too.

[Jibartik]

People be like, "look this billionaire elon is exactly like any of us, what an ASSHOLE."

On that note, at least subconsciously: people know what they is though, deep down it seems.

[starkind]

Cowards going after children. Two parties cowering behind untouchable politicians behind giant walls and militarized police. Paid for through theft and grift and supported by an elite class of globalists. And militarized police.

Don't hold your breath ppls. Anyone good isn't buying their food from these goons.

We'd be better off without a federal government at this point. We are going to get NATO expansion tho. And maybe Medicare for all if dems win. They'll just triage u tho and give you some really generic blood pressure meds so u can eat more burgers and chips with your welfare credits.

High probability posts like this will be illegal soon.

[Mblake1981]

What is this guys political position?

Vape Nash

[starkind]

I should probably get myself arrested yelling at the white house in a sarong. B4 my life is over.

[Mblake1981]

Imagine thinking that the second amendment is still relevant today lol. It was about making sure people could own muskets to help rebel against a potentially tyrannical government that was also armed with muskets.

So the Gov can't take them away, low hanging troll-fruits. Rebel, militia, rape victim fantasies, dude bros destroying other dude bros with their bare hands, child murder... what else ya got?

[starkind]

Vape Nash

Honestly I want the swat to just end these people democratically. That might not be Christian tho. So. I'm back to yelling at the white house.

Honestly weed, vapes are going to further erode civilization. It makes ppl stupid weak slow lazy. Enables them to engage in other harmful behaviors while self medicating.

Vaping is also a public nuisance and hazard. It's annoying af and I don't want to inhale ur drugs in public. I don't care how much you believe you need them constantly or that you are so weak you'd kill yourself without them.

This coming from a voluntary pill munching crazy person who gets by better without drugs.

[unsunghero]

Lol

[unsunghero]

,,,

[starkind]

,,,

^^^^

[Reiwa]

Technically not grabbing the guns, just banning domestic arms trafficking.

[robayon]

I wonder if I'd get any purchase with the christian right by referring to their psychosexual relationships with their Ar-15 as idolatry

Probably not, they already have that with the orange man too

[Trexller]

you need to post your images to imgur, and then use the image link feature, so that your images will appear when your posts are quoted

https://i.imgur.com/7jOt9lu.jpg

[Trexller]

Technically not grabbing the guns, just banning domestic arms trafficking.

dirty commie

[Homesteaded]

Any plan that involves removing all the guns from the US is not a serious plan.

[robayon]

Any plan that involves removing all the guns from the US is not a serious plan.A brave stance on an issue nobody was even suggesting, babykiller

[Trexller]

Any plan that involves removing all the guns from the US is not a serious plan.

exactly. there are over 400 million firearms in the U.S.

anyone who thinks they can put a dent in that number is a retard

[Botten]

exactly. there are over 400 million firearms in the U.S.

anyone who thinks they can put a dent in that number is a retard

Reducing the number made is a start.

Allow more lawsuits vs gun companies.

Push companies for safety or face bankruptcy.

For those guns that exist if anyone sees you using a gun irresponsibly (let alone killing others) allow incentivizing civilians to sue with a $10,000 cash reward. Works for Texas.

Put the gun nuts in their place.

[Horza]

https://www.project1999.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=17869&stc=1&thumb=1&d=1654024434

Far more guns are actually smuggled across the border into Mexico than the other way around, paste eating retard.

[cd288]

,,,

Unsurprising that the guy who is so self-absorbed that he thought the whole forums needed to see a post from him notifying us that we wouldn't be seeing him much anymore (although weirdly enough he has so little going on in his life that he's still here!) thinks he's as important as the leader of a major country and needs guns for protection.

[cd288]

exactly. there are over 400 million firearms in the U.S.

anyone who thinks they can put a dent in that number is a retard

I mean I don't think anyone would expect to put a dent in it overnight. But over time you could put a significant dent in it. First off, in a longer term you will have none of those products being legally sold in the US, which will ultimately put a dent in the total number.

Second, if you make it illegal to own certain guns and enforce significant penalties, normal law-abiding citizens will get rid of their guns (especially if you reimburse them to some extent for the lost property).

Third, and this ties into the above a bit, multiple countries have taken millions of guns off the street through gun "buy back" programs where you can surrender your firearms no questions asked and they will pay you for them. You could do this periodically over the years in the US and make a significant dent.

Fourth, are there already guns in peoples' hands? Yes. But what your comment ignores is a lot of this is ALSO about keeping people from OBTAINING types of guns in the future. One of those millions of guns wasn't in Ramos's hands the past few years; he went and bought it recently. It's not just about reducing the number of current guns, but about making sure people who don't already have them can't access them in the future to go kill children with them.

[Mblake1981]

I wonder if I'd get any purchase with the christian right by referring to their psychosexual relationships with their Ar-15 as idolatry

Probably not, they already have that with the orange man too

Not with the Ar-15, the symbol created by the media for the media to attack. Now if you bring up the FAL you might get traction.

[Reiwa]

I mean I don't think anyone would expect to put a dent in it overnight. But over time you could put a significant dent in it. First off, in a longer term you will have none of those products being legally sold in the US, which will ultimately put a dent in the total number.

Second, if you make it illegal to own certain guns and enforce significant penalties, normal law-abiding citizens will get rid of their guns (especially if you reimburse them to some extent for the lost property).

Third, and this ties into the above a bit, multiple countries have taken millions of guns off the street through gun "buy back" programs where you can surrender your firearms no questions asked and they will pay you for them. You could do this periodically over the years in the US and make a significant dent.

Fourth, are there already guns in peoples' hands? Yes. But what your comment ignores is a lot of this is ALSO about keeping people from OBTAINING types of guns in the future. One of those millions of guns wasn't in Ramos's hands the past few years; he went and bought it recently. It's not just about reducing the number of current guns, but about making sure people who don't already have them can't access them in the future to go kill children with them.

The Commerce Clause describes an enumerated power listed in the United States Constitution. The clause states that the United States Congress shall have power "to regulate Commerce with foreign Nations, and among the several States, and with the Indian Tribes."

[Trexller]

I mean I don't think anyone would expect to put a dent in it overnight. But over time you could put a significant dent in it. First off, in a longer term you will have none of those products being legally sold in the US, which will ultimately put a dent in the total number.

Second, if you make it illegal to own certain guns and enforce significant penalties, normal law-abiding citizens will get rid of their guns (especially if you reimburse them to some extent for the lost property).

Third, and this ties into the above a bit, multiple countries have taken millions of guns off the street through gun "buy back" programs where you can surrender your firearms no questions asked and they will pay you for them. You could do this periodically over the years in the US and make a significant dent.

Fourth, are there already guns in peoples' hands? Yes. But what your comment ignores is a lot of this is ALSO about keeping people from OBTAINING types of guns in the future. One of those millions of guns wasn't in Ramos's hands the past few years; he went and bought it recently. It's not just about reducing the number of current guns, but about making sure people who don't already have them can't access them in the future to go kill children with them.

ROFL

Go ahead and try it. Any of it.

[Trexller]

Reducing the number made is a start.

Allow more lawsuits vs gun companies.

Push companies for safety or face bankruptcy.

For those guns that exist if anyone sees you using a gun irresponsibly (let alone killing others) allow incentivizing civilians to sue with a $10,000 cash reward. Works for Texas.

Put the gun nuts in their place.

bitch bitch bitch bitch whine whine whine whine

does nothing

[cd288]

ROFL

Go ahead and try it. Any of it.

Oh ok that's productive. yeah guess we should just shrug our shoulders and say "well, despite the fact that we're the only first world country where tons of kids get killed every year by guns, there's nothing we can do about that."

Or we can get down to brass tacks and start trying to find solutions and implementing them. If we try a solution and it doesn't work, then we come up with another one.

The type of thinking you're exhibiting makes me pretty confident that you're a low wage worker and/or undereducated because you are unable to think creatively or critically.

[Trexller]

Oh ok that's productive. yeah guess we should just shrug our shoulders and say "well, despite the fact that we're the only first world country where tons of kids get killed every year by guns, there's nothing we can do about that.

other countries don't advertise their tiny few crazy people the way the US does

the US MSM hates america so much that they wait for the 1 crazy WHITE guy to go off then they report on it for years and years and years like it happens everyday.

black and hispanics kill thousands of people daily in this country, but you don't hear about it

you're all fucking hypocrits

LOOK AT ME I CARE ABOUT THE LATEST THING, IM WITH IT, IM UP TO DATE, LOOK AT MEEEEEE

[Trexller]

Not with the Ar-15, the symbol created by the media for the media to attack. Now if you bring up the FAL you might get traction.

the FAL is belgian, US media won't touch it.

AR-15 is a 75 year old American design, therefore the MSM hate it.

but they love the guns held by men who are paid to protect them.

[cd288]

other countries don't advertise their tiny few crazy people the way the US does

the US MSM hates america so much that they wait for the 1 crazy WHITE guy to go off then they report on it for years and years and years like it happens everyday.

black and hispanics kill thousands of people daily in this country, but you don't hear about it

you're all fucking hypocrits

LOOK AT ME I CARE ABOUT THE LATEST THING, IM WITH IT, IM UP TO DATE, LOOK AT MEEEEEE

? I'm not talking about just white people lol, I'm talking about a nationwide issue that affects people of all races. Also, the Uvalde shooter wasn't white......

[Trexller]

LOOK AT ME I CARE ABOUT THE LATEST THING, IM WITH IT, IM UP TO DATE, LOOK AT MEEEEEE

[Danth]

..thinks he's as important as the leader of a major country and needs guns for protection.

This turns my stomach a bit. His life IS every bit as important as the leader of a major country. We threw off the notion of "nobility" and "royalty" and chucked that garbage in the trash can of history where it belongs. Give yourself more credit, because your life has worth and you aren't just some filthy worthless peasant. If a Prime Minister deserves the option of armed protection, so do you. If a police officer's job is so dangerous he has to wear two guns to work for 8 hours a day, the folks who live there 24 hours a day deserve the ability to protect themselves. Our nation and our culture are founded on that idea, that all of us are created equal and have the same basic human rights. We either all turn 'em in, or none do.

So that's where I draw the line. You want a disarmed population? Yeah, I can see some merits, and I'm willing to compromise: Along with the public, you also disarm ALL police (special weapons and tactics teams included), you disarm ALL private bodyguards, all domestic-serving federal or law enforcement employees--that includes the Secret Service--as well as disarm the national guard when operating stateside except in training. No exceptions. None. You do that, okay, I'll hand in mine, as well. Otherwise, I regard such efforts as nothing more than another step towards trying to revert our republic to the natural human state of monarchy and haves- and have-nots, of masters and slaves. To that, I say, "No."

Are you willing to go that far?

Danth

[Mblake1981]

the FAL is belgian, US media won't touch it.

AR-15 is a 75 year old American design, therefore the MSM hate it.

The FAL is not a symbol in the USA that stands for anything, despite being the right arm of the free world.
The Ar-15 is a sticker on that rednecks diesel truck.

https://i.imgur.com/wjcXdHt.png

[unsunghero]

Unsurprising that the guy who is so self-absorbed that he thought the whole forums needed to see a post from him notifying us that we wouldn't be seeing him much anymore (although weirdly enough he has so little going on in his life that he's still here!) thinks he's as important as the leader of a major country and needs guns for protection.

Props for being so effing cool that you don’t actually read this forum because if you did, you’d know that I’ve mentioned, even a few pages back, that I don’t carry a gun anywhere

But frail, vulnerable people sometimes do, especially if they live in a sketchy part of town. You don’t have be a world leader to not want to get mugged and murdered

[Trexller]

The FAL is not a symbol in the USA that stands for anything, despite being the right arm of the free world.
The Ar-15 is a sticker on that rednecks diesel truck.

https://i.imgur.com/wjcXdHt.png

those are M16A1, M16 and M16A1 respectively

its important to know these differences

libtards pass 1 law

you make a minor change

now your weapon isn't mentioned in the libtard law

[Mblake1981]

Very old design that wasn't a sticker on anyone's old trucks back in the day, at least not in any large amount. Rednecks couldn't display a symbol to rile up their political-counterparts, other than a shotgun rack which were common once.

At most maybe a "take it from my cold dead hands" sticker but never a single weapons system in this vast nation filled with all manner of firearms. But they marketed the Ar-15 for this purpose, it's for sale at Wal-Mart. It is used in politiks.

Hard to attack something without a target. Those rednecks made themselves a target. Then they get into dumb arguments about who is going to shoot who and which rape victim is the biggest victim, something about militias and fighting the government that is mixed in with wild boasts about a bro's freak genetics and how bullets can't kill him.

[unsunghero]

More memes for Horza

[Trexller]

But they marketed the Ar-15 for this purpose, it's for sale at Wal-Mart.

Not anymore does walmart sell real guns

thank your local coward

[Mblake1981]

those are M16A1, M16 and M16A1 respectively

its important to know these differences

libtards pass 1 law

you make a minor change

now your weapon isn't mentioned in the libtard law

You know those differences don't matter in the public perception, unless they were full-auto then that could be used to demonize them further. I mean this single weapon system, the public doesn't hate 1911's so they look at rounds and tell people there is no reason to have that.

Edit: The media doesn't hate 1911's, correction. It isn't about the public.

Cue aussie shit bird: "Why you yanks need them 1911's? crickey! we banned all firearms etc etc etc...."

[Mblake1981]

Not anymore does walmart sell real guns

thank your local coward

https://www.gunsamerica.com/digest/walmart-to-stop-selling-ar-15s-tactical-looking-guns/

Had to get the symbol in there first to make a publicity stunt about it.

https://i.imgur.com/GHVt6Ys.png

[Jibartik]

imagine how fucked society would be if it turned out we were psychic and we could melt people by thinking really hard about it.

[Trexller]

You know those differences don't matter in the public perception, unless they were full-auto then that could be used to demonize them further. I mean this single weapon system, the public doesn't hate 1911's so they look at rounds and tell people there is no reason to have that.

they wanna ban "assault rifles" while under U.S. law, no civilian owns an "assault rifle" without the proper FFA permit.

civilians with an AR-15 have a .22 calibur semi auto rifle with the capability to accept a variable sized magazine.

that's the same calibur used to hunt rabbits and squirrels.

pages ago, i explained exactly how people don't know what to be scared of, unless the MSM tells you.

This shit is all staged 100%

[unsunghero]

I’m actually unsure which this is, maybe Reiwa can clarify

There have been a few hundred at a time killed by police during labor strikes in the past, but I’m guessing whatever this is referring to could be more than that

[unsunghero]

,,..

[Trexller]

I’m actually unsure which this is, maybe Reiwa can clarify

There have been a few hundred at a time killed by police during labor strikes in the past, but I’m guessing whatever this is referring to could be more than that

that un-embedded, only attached image, which does not appear when the post is quoted, contains an image of matt damon as an old man, from the epic film, 'Saving Private Ryan"

I often cue up the normandy beach landing and fall asleep to the sound of the MG42

[Mblake1981]

How many kids, young people mind you, would have saved up enough cash to purchase around $8,000 worth of Daniel Defense firearms to go shoot up a school?

Columbine had shitty weaponry because they were kids. Can you recall what kinds of guns they used without looking it up? I have a vague mental picture of them but I can't recall offhand. I would have to look it up.

But these new shootings? it's an AR15. That kid was busy cutting all the local lawns or maybe he just streamed on Youtube for a few days screaming at multiplatform console games to get the money. They use a weapons
system that is easily identifiable and has been in the news for this reason. It's also a sticker on a rednecks diesel truck, the fact its an M16 doesn't really matter.

Salesman: Can I help ya?
Kid: I want to buy an AR15
Salesman: Why?
Kid: Reasons.
Salesman: How about a Ruger 10/22 instead?
Kid: No, nobody knows that one.
Salesman: Looking to make a statement?
Kid: Yep.
Salesman: Welp, the AR will do that.
Kid: Yeah, seen the sticker on your truck outside.
Salesman: Hell yeah.
Kid: Hell yeah brother.
Salesman: You know this will be around $8k right?
Kid: Yeah, don't worry I stream on Twitch.
Salesman: Shit son, can I interest you in a gold plated model?
Kid: Nah, that is gaudy.
Kid: I want the one the media talks about.
Salesman: Cash or Credit?
Kid: I love the USA

[outside a passing Liberal looks through the shop window]

Liberal: I fucking knew it!

[unsunghero]

The post about defending our stores with guns isn’t true. Stores aren’t defended anymore, most people are free to loot and certainly aren’t going to be shot (legally anyway) over jewelry

Also, technically it was still a “good guy with a gun” and not a cop who saved the day (if you can call it that after so many kids had already died). Sure he was border patrol but he was off duty and had borrowed a gun of the barber who was cutting his hair. That’s closer to a “good guy with a gun” scenario than SWAT swinging in through the window

The real question is how many more kids would have died if we relied on the cops and not the good guy with the gun?

[robayon]

I often cue up the normandy beach landing and fall asleep to the sound of the MG42WyexIfuK8cY

[unsunghero]

How many kids, young people mind you, would have saved up enough cash to purchase around $8,000 worth of Daniel Defense firearms to go shoot up a school?

Columbine had shitty weaponry because they were kids. Can you recall what kinds of guns they used without looking it up? I have a vague mental picture of them but I can't recall offhand. I would have to look it up.

But these new shootings? it's an AR15. That kid was busy cutting all the local lawns or maybe he just streamed on Youtube for a few days screaming at multiplatform console games to get the money. They use a weapons
system that is easily identifiable and has been in the news for this reason. It's also a sticker on a rednecks diesel truck, the fact its an M16 doesn't really matter.

Supposedly some people did the math other places online to put down conspiracies that the guns were given to him by God knows who

The loser worked part time for a few years. If he saved everything he earned and wasn’t paying rent he could have made enough to buy them if he found a good deal

I dunno though, I really didn’t care enough about that dead piece of shit to read up on his saving and spending habits to check myself

[robayon]

Supposedly some people did the math other places online to put down conspiracies that the guns were given to him by God knows who

The loser worked part time for a few years. If he saved everything he earned and wasn’t paying rent he could have made enough to buy them if he found a good deal

I dunno though, I really didn’t care enough about that dead piece of shit to read up on his saving and spending habits to check myselfI don't see what's so hard to believe that the kid just went out and got a loan or stole something(s) worth a few grand to go buy those guns. I dunno if they've pored over his financial records yet, maybe he got a check from George Soros like I do every week, but I spend mine on alcohol

I don't know the price off the top of my head but those guns aren't that bloody expensive, and it's Texas

[Mblake1981]

Supposedly some people did the math other places online to put down conspiracies that the guns were given to him by God knows who

The loser worked part time for a few years. If he saved everything he earned and wasn’t paying rent he could have made enough to buy them if he found a good deal

I dunno though, I really didn’t care enough about that dead piece of shit to read up on his saving and spending habits to check myself

working for a few years to save up cash to buy a Daniel Defense AR15 to shoot up a school? well, what a prissy bitch. That is a long time to sit on your anger with only the image of a Daniel Defense AR15 floating through your mind. Nothing else would do.

Mike: How about a ball bat?
Shooter: Fuck that
Mike: A knife?
Shooter: Fuck that
Mike: A revolver?
Shooter: Fuck that
Mike: A shotgun? dude you are angry come on..
Shooter: Fuck that!
Mike: Alright already, what do you want?
Shooter: That Daniel Defense AR15 of course.
Mike: LoL, you luxurious bitch!
Shooter: You know it sugar!

[Reiwa]

those are M16A1, M16 and M16A1 respectively

its important to know these differences

libtards pass 1 law

you make a minor change

now your weapon isn't mentioned in the libtard law

Automatic loaders all, yes?

[Trexller]

AR-15 is like $500-800 depending on the state.

they definitely should cost more, like 1500

this is coming from the gun guy

and if the gun guy says its too easy to buy an AR-15, its really too fuckin easy to buy an AR-15.

[unsunghero]

working for a few years to save up cash to buy a Daniel Defense AR15 to shoot up a school? well, what a prissy bitch. That is a long time to sit on your anger with only the image of a Daniel Defense AR15 floating through your mind. Nothing else would do.

Rob’s probably right that he got a loan

A few left wing propaganda sites had posted how easy it would be to buy the exact same gun online linking to a pic with the price. If I recall they found it for like $1.2-1.5k

[Trexller]

Automatic loaders all, yes?

that's what semi-automatic means

some of the energy of a shot chambers the next round

many revolvers will cycle the chamber when the trigger is pulled, this is *not* semi-automatic

[Reiwa]

I’m actually unsure which this is, maybe Reiwa can clarify

There have been a few hundred at a time killed by police during labor strikes in the past, but I’m guessing whatever this is referring to could be more than that

https://www.project1999.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=17873&stc=1&thumb=1&d=1654039132

Haymarket? I think.

[unsunghero]

AR-15 is like $500-800 depending on the state.

they definitely should cost more, like 1500

this is coming from the gun guy

and if the gun guy says its too easy to buy an AR-15, its really too fuckin easy to buy an AR-15.

I remember hearing that Australia has clamped down on guns so hard that a 9mm on their black market would run you around $15,000

So gun bans technically mean only rich people get guns. I can see why the elites and establishment love it

[Danth]

working for a few years to save up cash to buy a Daniel Defense AR15 to shoot up a school? well, what a prissy bitch. That is a long time to sit on your anger with only the image of a Daniel Defense AR15 floating through your mind. Nothing else would do.

Some people do simmer and stew that long and make fairly intricate plans. I mean, if your life's going noplace, what else do you have to do? One of my buddies I grew up with planned for a couple of years to shoot up some folks who he felt deserved it just before graduation. He spent a good while figuring out where he could obtain (ie, steal) a S&W .357 from, because those were the days when magnums were all the rage. He ended up getting caught just before he could carry it out and landed in prison.

Danth

[Reiwa]

that's what semi-automatic means

some of the energy of a shot chambers the next round

many revolvers will cycle the chamber when the trigger is pulled, this is *not* semi-automatic

Well that would be my law I guess! Does your earlier point still make any sense?

[Trexller]

Well that would be my law I guess! Does your earlier point still make any sense?

I make alot of points, how do you expect me to know which you are referencing?

[Rethalis]

the gun grabbers want more gun control but clutch pearls at the idea of having to have ID to vote.

[Reiwa]

that's what semi-automatic means

some of the energy of a shot chambers the next round

many revolvers will cycle the chamber when the trigger is pulled, this is *not* semi-automatic

Cuz you have to cock it right?

cock.

[Reiwa]

I make alot of points, how do you expect me to know which you are referencing?

The one I initially quoted, sorry if that was confusing for you. :p

[Mblake1981]

Rob’s probably right that he got a loan

A few left wing propaganda sites had posted how easy it would be to buy the exact same gun online linking to a pic with the price. If I recall they found it for like $1.2-1.5k

Wouldn't people already know about the loan or would that implicate a bank? and that gun would still have to be sent to a gun store and the shooter would still have to pass the background check?

At what point in life, as a kid, did you have that kind of cash floating around? mad at the world or not. To come up with a plan, during your youth, to save up cash to buy a specific firearm that is expensive (despite cheaper alternatives out there) to shoot up a school.

[unsunghero]

Some people do simmer and stew that long and make fairly intricate plans. I mean, if your life's going noplace, what else do you have to do? One of my buddies I grew up with planned for a couple of years to shoot up some folks who he felt deserved it just before graduation. He spent a good while figuring out where he could obtain (ie, steal) a S&W .357 from, because those were the days when magnums were all the rage. He ended up getting caught just before he could carry it out and landed in prison.

Danth

Ya which is why waiting periods, while effective for things like crimes of passion, won’t stop mass murderers

The majority of mass murdered have already decided to end their own life first. Then they expand that thought into killing others. But most were already suicidal. If it’s your last action, yea, some people are willing to really plan that out

Even psychotic mass murderers have managed to make intricate plans spanning months or years, which is even more difficult because these people’s brains are feeding them delusions, hallucinations, messing with their ability to make simple decisions, and usually causing them to not be able to sleep well if at all. Yet even they can still make long plans for their massacres. Sometimes their ability to plan is even used against them in court to demonstrate mental competency to try to avoid getting an insanity plea

[Mblake1981]

Some people do simmer and stew that long and make fairly intricate plans. I mean, if your life's going noplace, what else do you have to do? One of my buddies I grew up with planned for a couple of years to shoot up some folks who he felt deserved it just before graduation. He spent a good while figuring out where he could obtain (ie, steal) a S&W .357 from, because those were the days when magnums were all the rage. He ended up getting caught just before he could carry it out and landed in prison.

Danth

This kid was still in school and working (supposedly) to save up the cash? that is one disciplined youth, to save up and not spend his school-shooter money on clothes, girls, food, entertainment, car etc.

[unsunghero]

Wouldn't people already know about the loan or would that implicate a bank? and that gun would still have to be sent to a gun store and the shooter would still have to pass the background check?

At what point in life, as a kid, did you have that kind of cash floating around? mad at the world or not. To come up with a plan, during your youth, to save up cash to buy a specific firearm that is expensive (despite cheaper alternatives out there) to shoot up a school.

Banks don’t ask what small loans are for I don’t think, or the kid could have lied

Although I dunno, I know they do for large loans depending on your financial position. When I took out a loan for my 2021 truck, I had good credit but lots of debt and mediocre income, so the bank needed to know EXACTLY what truck I was buying, including the VIN# because it was the collateral they would repossess if I missed payments

But even if the bank did ask and the kid said it was for a gun, it’s not the bank’s job to question or police that

And yea, when buying online the gun is still sent to a local dealer to be picked up, who will run a background check. The kid had a clean record, and hadn’t been red flagged by FBI for any previous internet content, so a background check didn’t stop him

[Reiwa]

Ya which is why waiting periods, while effective for things like crimes of passion, won’t stop mass murderers

The majority of mass murdered have already decided to end their own life first. Then they expand that thought into killing others. But most were already suicidal. If it’s your last action, yea, some people are willing to really plan that out

Even psychotic mass murderers have managed to make intricate plans spanning months or years, which is even more difficult because these people’s brains are feeding them delusions, hallucinations, messing with their ability to make simple decisions, and usually causing them to not be able to sleep well if at all. Yet even they can still make long plans for their massacres. Sometimes their ability to plan is even used against them in court to demonstrate mental competency to try to avoid getting an insanity plea

Crimes of passion aren't planned, to my knowledge.

[Mblake1981]

Banks don’t ask what small loans are for I don’t think, or the kid could have lied

Although I dunno, I know they do for large loans depending on your financial position. When I took out a loan for my 2021 truck, I had good credit but lots of debt and mediocre income, so the bank needed to know EXACTLY what truck I was buying, including the VIN# because it was the collateral they would repossess if I missed payments

But even if the bank did ask and the kid said it was for a gun, it’s not the bank’s job to question or police that

And yea, when buying online the gun is still sent to a local dealer to be picked up, who will run a background check. The kid had a clean record, and hadn’t been red flagged by FBI for any previous internet content, so a background check didn’t stop him

Didn't ask his co-signer either or did this reckless youth already have established credit at the local bank?

[Danth]

This kid was still in school and working (supposedly) to save up the cash? that is one disciplined youth, to save up and not spend his school-shooter money on clothes, girls, food, entertainment, car etc.

Might've been saving it anyway. I had some K's saved by the time I graduated high school, and money then went farther than it does now, and I definitely had clothes/girls/etc as well. Add in a little determination and it's....well let's call it plausible. 'Course he just as easily might've ripped someone off someplace or had some outside help, too. It'll come out eventually if so.

[unsunghero]

Crimes of passion aren't planned, to my knowledge.

Yeah that’s what I meant. If a husband discovers his wife cheated, goes to the gun store to buy a gun, gets put on a 2 month waiting period, then during the 2 months he decides to get on Tinder and bangs some hoes, then changes his mind and just divorces his wife instead of killing her, then the waiting period did some good

But it won’t stop a mass murderer

[Reiwa]

Might've been saving it anyway. I had some K's saved by the time I graduated high school, and money then went farther than it does now, and I definitely had clothes/girls/etc as well. Add in a little determination and it's....well let's call it plausible. 'Course he just as easily might've ripped someone off someplace or had some outside help, too. It'll come out eventually if so.

I assume he was slangin' the mota. :p

[unsunghero]

Might've been saving it anyway. I had some K's saved by the time I graduated high school, and money then went farther than it does now, and I definitely had clothes/girls/etc as well. Add in a little determination and it's....well let's call it plausible. 'Course he just as easily might've ripped someone off someplace or had some outside help, too. It'll come out eventually if so.

The far-right conspiracy is of course that the FBI gifted him the guns, called off the school resource officer, and told the police to stand down

Never attribute to malice that which could be explained by incompetence (by the school and PD) is my response to that stupid shit

[Danth]

I assume he was slangin' the mota. :p

I don't know what that means. I need a translation-to-squarespeak.

[unsunghero]

,,.,

[Reiwa]

I don't know what that means. I need a translation-to-squarespeak.

dealing drugs, mota is slang for weed in mestizo spanish.

[Danth]

Thanks for clarifying. That's plenty plausible, too.

[unsunghero]

dealing drugs, mota is slang for weed in mestizo spanish.

Tienes mota?

^
My question to cab drivers the day I arrive in Rocky Point (been probably 7 times now, going back next year)

[starkind]

Police are meant to be a deterrent. And to go make arrests. That's it. They aren't an active or proactive force.

They give rides too if you ask and are polite they won't handcuff either.

[starkind]

I hope ur not implying that is my position.

I agree with u tho. The left is stupid on this.

The police will not save u ever from an active shooter tho. Only if the shooter was dumb enough to charge a police position without cover. Anyway. S.W.A.T. will eventually breach if the target is important enough. Otherwise they'll wait and try to catch u when not looking or just let you go.

Some guy shotgunned some guy dead out on a jog in broad daylight public where I lived multiple witnesses. This was in the big city years ago. Doubt it's much changed. The police didn't even bother to arrest the guy cause they where hoping to gather evidence on other crimes or something. So the perp just got on a bus and left. Dunno if anyone ever did anything or cared enough to even put out a federal warrant or whatever. Probably not even an email or photo. So.

Some guy killing loads of civilians with a big gun? Most cops will not engage with a silly little 9mm.

Yeah man. Maybe if they're just waving the gun around at a gas station. Don't recommend this either btw. They may ask u to stop and kind just hang out outside until u calm down.

Ya'll are on ur own. Sometimes the police are an alright deterrent tho. Tbh I would pay them better and arm them better. And let them just shoot ppl more. And hire more of them. And yeah gun free zones are stupid.

I'm all like for everyone abled being police and gunning down criminals. Just give em a written exam and like rewards for every bagged bad guy. Don't even bother with uniforms. Let ppl buy their own kit.

[cd288]

This turns my stomach a bit. His life IS every bit as important as the leader of a major country. We threw off the notion of "nobility" and "royalty" and chucked that garbage in the trash can of history where it belongs. Give yourself more credit, because your life has worth and you aren't just some filthy worthless peasant. If a Prime Minister deserves the option of armed protection, so do you. If a police officer's job is so dangerous he has to wear two guns to work for 8 hours a day, the folks who live there 24 hours a day deserve the ability to protect themselves. Our nation and our culture are founded on that idea, that all of us are created equal and have the same basic human rights. We either all turn 'em in, or none do.

So that's where I draw the line. You want a disarmed population? Yeah, I can see some merits, and I'm willing to compromise: Along with the public, you also disarm ALL police (special weapons and tactics teams included), you disarm ALL private bodyguards, all domestic-serving federal or law enforcement employees--that includes the Secret Service--as well as disarm the national guard when operating stateside except in training. No exceptions. None. You do that, okay, I'll hand in mine, as well. Otherwise, I regard such efforts as nothing more than another step towards trying to revert our republic to the natural human state of monarchy and haves- and have-nots, of masters and slaves. To that, I say, "No."

Are you willing to go that far?

Danth

Hate to be the bearer of bad news but the actual weaponry you’d need in the modern era to overthrow the government is already illegal for you to own.

They made those laws a long time ago while keeping you so focused on whether you’re allowed to own your own little firearm so that you wouldn’t realize

[unsunghero]

Two thoughts:

1. If he thought that destroying his rifle will prevent a mass shooting, does this mean he sees himself as capable of committing a mass shooting? Is this sort of a recognition of his own psychotic tendencies? Maybe along with destroying lethal means he should also consider some mental health treatment

2. Or if it was for pure virtue, do you think he’d also cut his own dick off after a high profile rape hits the news? How serious is he about them virtue points

[starkind]

Two thoughts:

1. If he thought that destroying his rifle will prevent a mass shooting, does this mean he sees himself as capable of committing a mass shooting? Is this sort of a recognition of his own psychotic tendencies? Maybe along with destroying lethal means he should also consider some mental health treatment

2. Or if it was for pure virtue, do you think he’d also cut his own dick off after a high profile rape hits the news? How serious is he about them virtue points

He's definitely an ---ist.

Cut if off! I think the state should pay for it too 😁

[Trexller]

Two thoughts:

1. If he thought that destroying his rifle will prevent a mass shooting, does this mean he sees himself as capable of committing a mass shooting? Is this sort of a recognition of his own psychotic tendencies? Maybe along with destroying lethal means he should also consider some mental health treatment

2. Or if it was for pure virtue, do you think he’d also cut his own dick off after a high profile rape hits the news? How serious is he about them virtue points

not gonna bother googling it, i don't need to.

that shmuck is running for office or some shit like that

[Trexller]

Cut if off! I think the state should pay for it too 😁

We're not going to make it that easy for you.

[starkind]

Off with the heads!

https://i.imgur.com/VXelhZV.gif

[Elizondo]

Castro's bastard in Canada tryin to emulate his father

[Reiwa]

Off with the heads!

https://i.imgur.com/VXelhZV.gif

Can we get rid of maidenheads instead? 🤤

[Danth]

Hate to be the bearer of bad news but the actual weaponry you’d need in the modern era to overthrow the government is already illegal for you to own.

They made those laws a long time ago while keeping you so focused on whether you’re allowed to own your own little firearm so that you wouldn’t realize

I don't understand....are you replying to something someone else said? I didn't say a word about overthrowing anything. Internet discussions from many posters run together sometimes in these long threads, a weakness of the medium.

[Mblake1981]

I remember hearing that Australia has clamped down on guns so hard that a 9mm on their black market would run you around $15,000

So gun bans technically mean only rich people get guns. I can see why the elites and establishment love it

https://www.vox.com/2014/12/29/7450793/invisible-primary
The invisible primary: Can party elites pick a nominee before anyone votes?

https://theconversation.com/we-can-hate-elites-but-they-helped-build-modern-democracy-76968
Since the Enlightenment, elites have helped develop the system many voters seem to take for granted today. They’ve done so for pragmatic, political, idealistic or self-interested reasons, seeking to promote, install, defend and reform democratic ideas and practices or represent citizens in parliaments.

https://time.com/5936036/secret-2020-election-campaign/
A second odd thing happened amid Trump’s attempts to reverse the result: corporate America turned on him. Hundreds of major business leaders, many of whom had backed Trump’s candidacy and supported his policies, called on him to concede. To the President, something felt amiss. “It was all very, very strange,” Trump said on Dec. 2. “Within days after the election, we witnessed an orchestrated effort to anoint the winner, even while many key states were still being counted.”

In a way, Trump was right.

[Jibartik]

is hillary gonna be next president? plz say yes.

[cd288]

https://www.vox.com/2014/12/29/7450793/invisible-primary


https://theconversation.com/we-can-hate-elites-but-they-helped-build-modern-democracy-76968


https://time.com/5936036/secret-2020-election-campaign/

Imagine having such a low IQ that you honestly believe this drivel and aren’t just trolling lol

[Mblake1981]

Remember to wish your friends and loved ones a Happy Democracy Day this July 4th!

[Reiwa]

Imagine having such a low IQ that you honestly believe this drivel and aren’t just trolling lol

Are primaries democratic?

Goddamn that 2014 timestamp...

[Mblake1981]

is hillary gonna be next president? plz say yes.

Why wouldn't she be?

[Jibartik]

that would be awesome if 2024 election was the rematch

[Mblake1981]

that would be awesome if 2024 election was the rematch

You think so?

[Jibartik]

hell yea she'd be a great antichrist and her return would count as a mortal wound comback to me.

[Mblake1981]

https://time.com/5936036/secret-2020-election-campaign/
Their work touched every aspect of the election. They got states to change voting systems and laws and helped secure hundreds of millions in public and private funding. They fended off voter-suppression lawsuits, recruited armies of poll workers and got millions of people to vote by mail for the first time. They successfully pressured social media companies to take a harder line against disinformation and used data-driven strategies to fight viral smears. They executed national public-awareness campaigns that helped Americans understand how the vote count would unfold over days or weeks, preventing Trump’s conspiracy theories and false claims of victory from getting more traction. After Election Day, they monitored every pressure point to ensure that Trump could not overturn the result. “The untold story of the election is the thousands of people of both parties who accomplished the triumph of American democracy at its very foundation,” says Norm Eisen, a prominent lawyer and former Obama Administration official who recruited Republicans and Democrats to the board of the Voter Protection Program.

Remember to wish your friends and loved ones a Happy Democracy Day this July 4th!

https://seenthis.net/sites/7282461336007718853
Washington Post slammed, changes headline after op-ed calls for ’elites’ to have ’bigger say in choosing the president’

https://i.imgur.com/go7YAD1.jpg