14 Children and Teacher Killed in Texas Elementary School Shooting

[Elizondo]

Who exactly do you think American conservatives are currently fighting a war against and why do Fox News fans take this Great White Replacement theory so seriously?

Great Replacement is a Groomer idea that you folks have been bragging about for years

Hope that helps

[Skarne]

Pretty sure that even many of the Never Trumpers claim we're being invaded by hordes of non-whites right now and the killings by their voters will probably continue until we appease their hurt feelings.

https://youtu.be/EuJzSTNDUGI

[Jibartik]

I think banning autoloader weapons would do a lot to remediate urban gun violence.

But people will stamp their feet and say no not our problem(white supremacy), so discussing school shootings cowabunga it is.

the gun violence in gangland right now almost seems like there s a conspiracy to arm them lke they are ukranians.

Shit is insane right now, waay way way worse in gangland than it was 10-15 years ago

the age of jayz is over

we cleaned up hip hop and rap, and it's rubber bannded into the most violent and drug addled deprived music 10x worse than it was during the 80s & 90s

https://i.imgur.com/VFIsiaC.png

the way they are getting this shit, is the same way they were getting it in the late 80s and early 90s: Through corrupt people inside the goverment

[Horza]

https://youtu.be/EuJzSTNDUGI

If You're Into It (violently overthrowing the government so you can install a billionaire pedophile as president for life). (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uRJZfwDgNTM)

[Reiwa]

You guys are dirtier than Starkind after a week of no showering.

That's relatively clean for her. :p

[Mblake1981]

That's relatively clean for her. :p

https://i.imgur.com/podpXtW.jpg

[Mblake1981]

The superpredator thing that came up in 2016 was contemporaneous to the early 90s crime bill, which Tromp said went too far and made pardons for.

So if there's been a resurgence, well.

Good way to make that guy look bad while attacking the American way of life, you know.. for laughs.

[unsunghero]

https://i.imgur.com/podpXtW.jpg

[unsunghero]

,,,

[Skarne]

JEWS WILL NOT REPLACE US!

[Mblake1981]

JEWS WILL NOT REPLACE US!

Why not?

[Elizondo]

https://nypost.com/2022/01/04/manhattan-da-alvin-bragg-to-stop-seeking-prison-in-some-cases/

Manhattan DA to stop seeking prison sentences in slew of criminal cases

Manhattan’s new DA has ordered his prosecutors to stop seeking prison sentences for hordes of criminals and to downgrade felony charges in cases including armed robberies and drug dealing, according to a set of progressive policies made public Tuesday.

[Reiwa]

Why not?

Usher fell in a discord toilet or something. Lots of racial memes from him lately.

[Jibartik]

JEWS WILL NOT REPLACE US!

Who, Palestinians?

[Skarne]

I’m only kidding I think it’s a ridiculous line of thinking.

[unsunghero]

white man bad

[Jibartik]

I’m only kidding I think it’s a ridiculous line of thinking.

true but the people who think the folks that said it in charlston, actually believe that it's happening in Palestine.

makes me think idk bout you.

[Elizondo]

lSab01vhpoY

[Reiwa]

lSab01vhpoY

Zondo gonna jump on the grenades for us. ;)

[Jibartik]

Zondo gonna jump on the grenades for us. ;)

one thing's for sure, the uvalde police department wont.

[Mblake1981]

Their union wont.

[robayon]

You have serious problems with identity politics, unsunghero. I think you're just mad that the party that prefers your identity politics also just so happen to be largely white supremacists. I'm sorry that society won't accept the fact that it's not okay to have white pride but maybe you should consider the several hundred years of context and the oppression inflicted by the white race both in the past and ongoing in the present

I fully support the gradual disappearance of white people through failure to reproduce, and I'm white. I wish the great replacement was real, but that's just white people not having kids because the society we've built fucking sucks ass

[Skarne]

You have serious problems with identity politics, unsunghero. I think you're just mad that the party that prefers your identity politics also just so happen to be largely white supremacists. I'm sorry that society won't accept the fact that it's not okay to have white pride but maybe you should consider the several hundred years of context and the oppression inflicted by the white race both in the past and ongoing in the present

I fully support the gradual disappearance of white people through failure to reproduce, and I'm white. I wish the great replacement was real, but that's just white people not having kids because the society we've built fucking sucks ass

Rofl

[unsunghero]

You have serious problems with identity politics, unsunghero. I think you're just mad that the party that prefers your identity politics also just so happen to be largely white supremacists. I'm sorry that society won't accept the fact that it's not okay to have white pride but maybe you should consider the several hundred years of context and the oppression inflicted by the white race both in the past and ongoing in the present

I fully support the gradual disappearance of white people through failure to reproduce, and I'm white. I wish the great replacement was real, but that's just white people not having kids because the society we've built fucking sucks ass

Either that or a meme site I like has a channel called “social justice warriors” that collects this stuff to make fun of

[Skarne]

Either that or a meme site I like has a channel called “social justice warriors” that collects this stuff to make fun of

Whoosh

[Reiwa]

https://i.imgur.com/2DkZ0L6.gif

[unsunghero]

Whoosh

Oh I know I have privilege. I have been born into a life better than like 97% of planet earth experiences

I can still make fun of SJW’s though. I have tons more of those anti-white memes

[Horza]

Either that or a meme site I like has a channel called “social justice warriors” that collects this stuff to make fun of

Delicious brain poison, I really can't wait for the rest of the boomers to all finally die off already.

[unsunghero]

Delicious brain poison, I really can't wait for the rest of the boomers to all finally die off already.

I know you got the lite version. There’s some SJW’s who really seem to hate white people

[Mblake1981]

Whiteness is an American invention, it was so pale-skinned men wouldn't kill each other simply due to the nation they came from. Whiteness was born, whiteness is attacked so that large group will be broken apart.. and we can get back to killing I-talian, Krauts and the rest of them but leave out everyone else... I guess. Isn't that how it's supposed to work?

Edit: It was high political theater watching Europeans brow-beat against the USA flag a few years back, because a flag is a symbol of contention when your nations live in each others backyards..

[loramin]

United States has a deadbeat dad and fatherless children problem not a gun problem.

So other countries don't have deadbeat dads and fatherless children? :rolleyes: Because, again, this is a uniquely American problem.

Look at the fact that in ukraine right now citizens owning guns just saved their ass from a russian invasion because they were armed and they dont have school shootings there.

No, it did not. Military aid from the US government (that same military that could crush any sort of civic resistance like a bug, regardless of mansy guns they own, if it ever decided to) is what saved them.

A government doesn't benefit from nuclear bombing their own land, or by regular bombing it. The fact that the government has more power than ever is no argument in favor of giving them still more power over us, the ruled. Just because a population can be exterminated by poison gas or nuclear bomb does not have a meaningful negative impact on the usefulness of weapons against tyranny. Ask any tyrant in history. Ask Putin presently.

Loramin I don't see anyone making the argument that stripping the legal ownership of guns away from Americans would have no reduction in school shootings. It would.

The argument anti gun people make is that we will be more safe without guns. There is no evidence to support this argument.

The argument that possibly you are the only one in the world is trying to make is "if there were no guns, no one would die from guns" that is not an argument that needs making because it is a logical fact.

If I had no legs I could never kick someone
If I had no arms I could never punch someone
If I had no car I could never injure someone with a car I was driving
If I had no hammer I could never hurt someone with a hammer
If I had no knife I could never hurt someone iwth a knife.

If America had no legs it could never kick anyone
If America had no arms it oculd never punch anyone
If America had no cars there would be no car injuries
If America had no hammers there would be no hammer injuries
If America had no knives there would be no knife injuries.
If there were no elephants, there would be no more unethical treatment of elephants.

These are all self evident logical facts. You do not need to make statements like this anymore Loramin.

At the end of the day what you're ultimately saying is "kids (and other innocent people) should die so that I can have my fantasy (and again, it is a fantasy) of some day using guns to stand up to a corrupt US government." Because again, unlike cars and hammers, we don't need guns.

[Skarne]

I know you got the lite version. There’s some SJW’s who really seem to hate white people

Ye that is true. I think you should be a little more considerate as to why that is though. The other night you said you think it’d be cool to be the only white dude living in an area..but that’s a real problem for some folks who aren’t white and has been for decades.

[Mblake1981]

Ye that is true. I think you should be a little more considerate as to why that is though. The other night you said you think it’d be cool to be the only white dude living in an area..but that’s a real problem for some folks who aren’t white and has been for decades.

Are those white of Irish, I-talian, Iraqi, Syrian, Germanic, British (which is German), french, mistaken jewish fellow?

or are they all white?

[Botten]

JEWS WILL NOT REPLACE US!

Not if Trexller has anything to say about it.

[Skarne]

Are those white of Irish, I-talian, Iraqi, Syrian, Germanic, British (which is German), french, mistaken jewish fellow?

or are they all white?

Does it matter? It’s just an opinion I’m not telling a story.

[unsunghero]

Ye that is true. I think you should be a little more considerate as to why that is though. The other night you said you think it’d be cool to be the only white dude living in an area..but that’s a real problem for some folks who aren’t white and has been for decades.

Oh dun worry I consider all the reasons. It is true that the only black person in an all white area could have been in a real bad spot decades ago

If I was the only white dude in any all-minority area, the biggest issue to my safety would be the perception that because I’m white, I might have more money or valuables on me than the next person. People who are scrapping to get by can become opportunistic. That’s why if I had to live there, as a survival mechanism I would probably try to dress down, almost to where I look homeless. But wanting to mug me for money is still a better reason than wanting to kill me because I’m white. The % of minorities in any given area who feel that way would be very very low, and if they were black I could understand it as a sense of revenge or racial anger. Not necessarily fair because I’m not the one who did something to them personally, but I’m aware and understand all of it

[Skarne]

And yet you still choose to parrot Charlie Kirk. Lemme ask you, do you consider yourself to be an empathetic person?

[Mblake1981]

Does it matter? It’s just an opinion I’m not telling a story.

I had to do a double take.

[unsunghero]

And yet you still choose to parrot Charlie Kirk. Lemme ask you, do you consider yourself to be an empathetic person?

Dunno who that is. I post memes making fun of anti-white SJW’s when they get a little silly and out of control about it. Not all of the left or progressives consider themselves SJW’s or take the same approach towards rectifying perceived injustices

Is that what this Charlie does?

[Skarne]

I had to do a double take.

Why?

[Mblake1981]

Why?

Initially took your statement to mean something more, which it might.. or just an off-hand comment with zero thought attached (which can sometimes strike gold).

[Skarne]

Dunno who that is. I post memes making fun of anti-white SJW’s when they get a little silly and out of control about it. Not all of the left or progressives consider themselves SJW’s or take the same approach towards rectifying perceived injustices

Is that what this Charlie does?

Ye kinda he doesn’t think racism has anything to do with the systemic problems our country’s African American, Latino, LGBTQ, etc communities deal with. He’s one of those pull yourself up by the bootstraps kinda guys who disregards the lack of generational wealth for some of those communities along with how someone’s lack of familial foundation can be a detriment to their ambitions.

[Reiwa]

British (which is German)

https://i.imgur.com/aea6oBx.jpeg

[Rethalis]

So other countries don't have deadbeat dads and fatherless children? :rolleyes: Because, again, this is a uniquely American problem.

I didn't say that at all. Majority of violent crimes are commited by people who grew up without a father in the home. If you want to hide the root issue behind guns fine, but its not going to magically make society any better as a result.

I don't believe for a second that banning guns will reduce *overall* violent crime.

[Skarne]

Initially took your statement to mean something more, which it might.. or just an off-hand comment with zero thought attached (which can sometimes strike gold).

It was directed at unsung he seemed to get it.

[unsunghero]

Ye kinda he doesn’t think racism has anything to do with the systemic problems our country’s African American, Latino, LGBTQ, etc communities deal with. He’s one of those pull yourself up by the bootstraps kinda guys who disregards the lack of generational wealth for some of those communities along with how someone’s lack of familial foundation can be a detriment to their ambitions.

He’d have kind of an anti-conservative viewpoint if he didn’t acknowledge the importance of a familial foundation. Having a stable and as close to nuclear (2 parents + kids) family ideally with extended family involved as well has always been a big deal to conservatives

I think he’d be a moron to discount the effect of lack of generational wealth. That’s never been an argument. Usually the argument is conservatives call that more of a class thing while the left considers it more of a a race thing depending on how much weight you put on the past historical injustices affect in current day

[Skarne]

I didn't say that at all. Majority of violent crimes are commited by people who grew up without a father in the home. If you want to hide the root issue behind guns fine, but its not going to magically make society any better as a result.

I don't believe for a second that banning guns will reduce *overall* violent crime.

I don’t think banning guns is the answer either. This is a systemic problem which calls for more than one change. I think things like increased background checks, increased age limit to buy a (25 id say), maybe a mental health screening every few years, buyback programs, storage requirements…idk I have no clue how to fix this but I really think something has got to be done. Don’t you think enough is enough? I don’t like innocent people dying needlessly in mass shootings…especially children my son’s age.

[Mblake1981]

It was directed at unsung he seemed to get it.

Well, I mean, you never know where inspiration will be.

[Skarne]

He’d have kind of an anti-conservative viewpoint if he didn’t acknowledge the importance of a familial foundation. Having a stable and as close to nuclear (2 parents + kids) family ideally with extended family involved as well has always been a big deal to conservatives

I think he’d be a moron to discount the effect of lack of generational wealth. That’s never been an argument. Usually the argument is conservatives call that more of a class thing while the left considers it more of a a race thing depending on how much weight you put on the past historical injustices affect in current day

Ah cool glad to hear you don’t listen to that fella he’s a real piece of shit. And he’s got one of the most punchable faces in the world.

[Mblake1981]

I don’t think banning guns is the answer either. This is a systemic problem which calls for more than one change. I think things like increased background checks, increased age limit to buy a (25 id say), maybe a mental health screening every few years, buyback programs, storage requirements…idk I have no clue how to fix this but I really think something has got to be done. Don’t you think enough is enough? I don’t like innocent people dying needlessly in mass shootings…especially children my son’s age.

Sounds like a dead beat father problem.

[Elizondo]

I don’t think banning guns is the answer either. This is a systemic problem which calls for more than one change. I think things like increased background checks, increased age limit to buy a (25 id say), maybe a mental health screening every few years, buyback programs, storage requirements…idk I have no clue how to fix this but I really think something has got to be done. Don’t you think enough is enough? I don’t like innocent people dying needlessly in mass shootings…especially children my son’s age.

If 18 year olds can be sent to war they can buy guns

[Skarne]

Well, I mean, you never know where inspiration will be.

True I heard Isaac newton sat on an apple and that’s how fisting was created.

[Skarne]

If 18 year olds can be sent to war they can buy guns

Why can’t they rent a car then? Or drink? That’s a silly argument.

[Mblake1981]

If 18 year olds can be sent to war they can buy guns

I think this opens the door for unsavory people to do more hacking and chopping of rights.

[Skarne]

Sounds like a dead beat father problem.

How can you just point the finger at everything but guns? Seriously man you don’t think anything should be done about gun regulation? Nothing at all?

[Mblake1981]

True I heard Isaac newton sat on an apple and that’s how fisting was created.

I mean, why would homosexual men make anyone afraid?

[Skarne]

I mean, why would homosexual men make anyone afraid?

Maybe you can tell me? Are you afraid of gay people?

[Mblake1981]

How can you just point the finger at everything but guns? Seriously man you don’t think anything should be done about gun regulation? Nothing at all?

You don't get me at all, No I don't but I am not facing the same issues some of you are.. from cities with drug needles on them. My answer is not one for the rest of the nation however the nations ways, since it is currently weakened with a lot of nonsense, can force itself on the rest of us.

[unsunghero]

Ah cool glad to hear you don’t listen to that fella he’s a real piece of shit. And he’s got one of the most punchable faces in the world.

But beyond just a lack of wealth is that bad past generational things are far more likely to compound and spiral than turn around

Regardless of the race, if a kid grows up poor, abused/neglected, bad education, very little job opportunities in his area, his chance of success plummets. And so does his kid’s. And his kid’s kid’s. And his kid’s kid’s kid’s

It takes almost a miracle person to break that cycle. I’m all for giving as much assistance as possible and fair, but a lot of it is still gonna end up on the individual, just from a reality standpoint

[Mblake1981]

Maybe you can tell me? Are you afraid of gay people?

More afraid of mental image of sitting on an apple and fisting was born :P

[Skarne]

More afraid of mental image of sitting on an apple and fisting was born :P

Haha

[Rethalis]

If that is really the problem then what do you suggest as potential solutions?

I have a couple.

Some sort of team sports or clubs at school should be mandatory for graduation.

Shut down the funding for planned parenthood, give it to the boys and girls club instead.

xx hours required of "volunteer" work senior year of high school.

[Reiwa]

More afraid of mental image of sitting on an apple and fisting was born :P

I don't think a blunt shape is used initially. You gotta wiggle the pieces up there indiviually and then bundle 'em into a fist or whatever.

Makes you think.

[Elizondo]

Why can’t they rent a car then? Or drink? That’s a silly argument.

Renting a car or drinking alcohol in The Constitution?

Does The Government draft you to go to a party?

FFS you're an idiot

[Horza]

I have a couple.

Some sort of team sports or clubs at school should be mandatory for graduation.

Shut down the funding for planned parenthood, give it to the boys and girls club instead.

xx hours required of "volunteer" work senior year of high school.

Surely shutting down Planned Parenthood will finally put a stop the scourge of racially-motivated mass killings.

[Skarne]

Renting a car or drinking alcohol in The Constitution?

Does The Government draft you to go to a party?

FFS you're an idiot

Where in the constitution is it that decrees the age in which someone can buy a weapon little billy? It’s not my fault you think I’m an idiot because you can’t understand or hang in a civil discussion.

[unsunghero]

I have a couple.

Some sort of team sports or clubs at school should be mandatory for graduation.

Shut down the funding for planned parenthood, give it to the boys and girls club instead.

xx hours required of "volunteer" work senior year of high school.

Or a little scrutiny on the parents. How many mass murderers were from either the foster system or single parent households? How many were abused or neglected? From the crime documentaries I watch, a hell of a lot of serial killers were, dunno about mass murderers

Be a better parent and we’ll create fewer fucked up kids

[Jibartik]

No, it did not. Military aid from the US government (that same military that could crush any sort of civic resistance like a bug, regardless of mansy guns they own, if it ever decided to) is what saved them.


bro they ha dno support until they started winning god damn

The ukrainian men and farmers stopped russia god damn you should be ashamed for saying that

they are NOT part of nato you MF'er how dare you say that it was support from the west that stopped russia, UKRAINE did and you're simping for russia by denying their heroism.

Dont you dare say No I am not right then spew putin propaganda.

[Rethalis]

Or a little scrutiny on the parents. How many mass murderers were from either the foster system or single parent households? How many were abused or neglected? From the crime documentaries I watch, a hell of a lot of serial killers were, dunno about mass murderers

Be a better parent and we’ll create fewer fucked up kids

Totally agree, I was trying to come up with something that is more feasible than forcing bad parents to be good parents.

[Elizondo]

Surely shutting down Planned Parenthood will finally put a stop the scourge of racially-motivated mass killings.

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[Jibartik]

NEWS FLASH ukrane is not part of the EU or NATO

you simp russian demorat communists just want to take guns so ukraine would be a russian country: FACT

[unsunghero]

Totally agree, I was trying to come up with something that is more feasible than forcing bad parents to be good parents.

It’s a bit draconian, but my suggestion is that if anyone becomes a serial killer or mass murderer, the FBI tracks down who their parents were and throws them in prison

You can fuck up your kids, but if they take it to the extreme it’s your ass ;)

[loramin]

I didn't say that at all. Majority of violent crimes are commited by people who grew up without a father in the home. If you want to hide the root issue behind guns fine, but its not going to magically make society any better as a result.

I don't believe for a second that banning guns will reduce *overall* violent crime.

I'm not saying anything about banning them outright, I'm talking about having sensible gun control laws. And you can believe whatever you want, but there's a mountain of evidence showing that some (obviously not all; the details matter) gun control laws do reduce gun violence.

The simplest evidence isn't even any wonky scientific study or anything: it's other countries around the world. They all have (for instance) basic laws about background checks and such that we don't have.

In Germany anyone under 25 has to pass a psych eval to buy a gun: how many school shooters would that have stopped here? In Italy you have to demonstrate a need for a gun and go through a criminal and mental health check. And so on for many others.

None of those countries have our problems with mass shootings, but the fringe right NRA crowd has so dominated the discussion that even reasonable measures like background checks can't pass here.

But beyond just a lack of wealth is that bad past generational things are far more likely to compound and spiral than turn around

Regardless of the race, if a kid grows up poor, abused/neglected, bad education, very little job opportunities in his area, his chance of success plummets. And so does his kid’s. And his kid’s kid’s. And his kid’s kid’s kid’s

It takes almost a miracle person to break that cycle. I’m all for giving as much assistance as possible and fair, but a lot of it is still gonna end up on the individual, just from a reality standpoint

So let's prevent abortion and force more kids to be born into that cycle, yay!

[Reiwa]

NEWS FLASH ukrane is not part of the EU or NATO

you simp russian demorat communists just want to take guns so ukraine would be a russian country: FACT

You can't tell at sight a mauser rifle from a Javelin?

[Jibartik]

No, it did not. Military aid from the US government (that same military that could crush any sort of civic resistance like a bug, regardless of mansy guns they own, if it ever decided to) is what saved them.
.

This is so infuriating

this friggen war was BECAUSE THEY WANTED WESTERN support

it couldnt be more wrong and you are so confident about how disrespectful you are to the real heros that get out there and saved ukraine and died doing it and you want to take credit for it.

[Reiwa]

It’s a bit draconian, but my suggestion is that if anyone becomes a serial killer or mass murderer, the FBI tracks down who their parents were and throws them in prison

You can fuck up your kids, but if they take it to the extreme it’s your ass ;)

That's new and I don't think it will fly, but let's try it anyway incase it does and things may improve slightly. 😈

[loramin]

It’s a bit draconian, but my suggestion is that if anyone becomes a serial killer or mass murderer, the FBI tracks down who their parents were and throws them in prison

You can fuck up your kids, but if they take it to the extreme it’s your ass ;)

Won't work, for the same reason longer prison sentences don't. When someone decides to murder someone, they're not thinking "well if I do it and get caught I'll only get 20 years, not 25 ... yeah I'm in!" They're not even thinking about the sentence at all, they're thinking "I just caught this guy with my wife!"

Similarly if I'm afraid to beat my kid because I know I might get caught now, eg. because my neighbor might report me, that might actually influence my behavior. But the threat of going to jail 20 years down the line for something I'm sure will never happen to me? It doesn't matter if the penalty is being flayed alive, it won't influence my behavior.

[Horza]

This is so infuriating

this friggen war was BECAUSE THEY WANTED WESTERN support

it couldnt be more wrong and you are so confident about how disrespectful you are to the real heros that get out there and saved ukraine and died doing it and you want to take credit for it.

Putin simp says what now?

The war was because they want to preserve the old Soviet sphere of influence despite Ukraine kicking out the strongman he had installed.

[Jibartik]

Stop invaliding the heroism of the ukrainian soldiers you russian simp.

listen to this shit we need this https://www.frontlinewildfire.com/how-forest-recovers-wildfire/

I bet the civil war is going to happen when the LEFT refuses to believe the election results, and in 2024 does what they said trump would do in 2020.

I mean they said that trump would start world war 3 and here we are with them fucking LOVING it

and lormain thinking it was our military that fricking has been fighting it for christ sakes. What a fucking mess we've turned ourselves into.

loramin actually thinks us military space lasers are secretly winning the war in ukraine.

[loramin]

This is so infuriating

this friggen war was BECAUSE THEY WANTED WESTERN support

it couldnt be more wrong and you are so confident about how disrespectful you are to the real heros that get out there and saved ukraine and died doing it and you want to take credit for it.

The Ukrainian military and civilian militia stepped up and saved their country, no question: I'm not trying to argue otherwise.

What I'm saying is without Western military support it wouldn't have mattered how hard they fought, Russia would have ultimately dominated.

[Jibartik]

Putin simp says what now?

The war was because they want to preserve the old Soviet sphere of influence despite Ukraine kicking out the strongman he had installed.

thats literally what I just said you fricken bot

[unsunghero]

That's new and I don't think it will fly, but let's try it anyway incase it does and things may improve slightly. 😈

It might make a parent pause and go “hmm my socially inept child that I haven’t given 30 total minutes of my attention to their entire life has stayed inside on his computer for the last year and just punched his mom in the face when she asked him to turn off Fortnite. What do I think the chances are he’s going to shoot up a school, because going to prison for the rest of my life is really going to mess up my vacation plans”

[Rethalis]

I'm not saying anything about banning them outright, I'm talking about having sensible gun control laws. And you can believe whatever you want, but there's a mountain of evidence showing that some (obviously not all; the details matter) gun control laws do reduce gun violence.

The simplest evidence isn't even any wonky scientific study or anything: it's other countries around the world. They all have (for instance) basic laws about background checks and such that we don't have.

In Germany anyone under 25 has to pass a psych eval to buy a gun: how many school shooters would that have stopped here? In Italy you have to demonstrate a need for a gun and go through a criminal and mental health check. And so on for many others.

None of those countries have our problems with mass shootings, but the fringe right NRA crowd has so dominated the discussion that even reasonable measures like background checks can't pass here.



So let's prevent abortion and force more kids to be born into that cycle, yay!

for one its none of your damn business or the governments business to know why I "need" a gun.

how about more security at the schools? Thats pretty sensible.

[Botten]

Lets hear from a republican when asked how'd they would fix school shootings.

This was from Herschel Walker on FoxNews.

"People see that it's a person wielding that
weapon, you know, Cain killed Abel. And
that's the problem that we have. And I said,
what we need to do is look into how we can
stop those things

You talk about doing disinformation.
What about getting a department that can
look at young men that's looking at women,
that's looking at their social media? What
about doing that, looking into things like
that, and we can stop that way?"


...
Jib tends to respond better.
Hell, Trump barely replies better.

This crap reads like Ooloo's white supremacist statistics. Complete nonsense.

[Skarne]

I don’t understand why some people here point at everything BUT gun regulation to fix this issue. It seems grossly illogical and it makes me laugh. Our own politicians are unable to figure something out. Most arguments here seem to devolve into personal attacks but this is the internet. What excuse does Washington have?

[Jibartik]

The Ukrainian military and civilian militia stepped up and saved their country, no question: I'm not trying to argue otherwise.

There, see. Keep in mind without this phase, there would be ZERO support, because they'd be russian now.

What I'm saying is without Western military support it wouldn't have mattered how hard they fought, Russia would have ultimately dominated.

No you are wrong about that. It's not "western support" we've been sending them OLD conventional firearms.

you simply do not understand how the military works we have supplied conventional firepower, that is it.

We have propaganda to make YOU think that we are supporting them but every day zelenski has been BEGGING and BEGGING for equipment.

They do not have tanks. They do not have airplanes. They do not have any of the tech you think they have.

It is the tenacity of the ukrainians who hide underground and pop up and shoot russians that is winning this war.

[Jibartik]

I don’t understand why some people here point at everything BUT gun regulation to fix this issue. It seems grossly illogical and it makes me laugh. Our own politicians are unable to figure something out. Most arguments here seem to devolve into personal attacks but this is the internet. What excuse does Washington have?

Its so easy once you figure this out.

Because out of all the solutions only one is unconstitutional.

[Skarne]

Maybe more security at schools sure..even though the cop at my high school was useless and so were the cops at Uvalde.. and..Vegas..

But that still isn’t enough imo. There needs to be something done to gun legislation even if it’s light or harsh..can anyone who argues “everything but” at least agree that we as a nation need to look at regulation?

[Horza]

This crap reads like Ooloo's white supremacist statistics. Complete nonsense.

By pointing out their racial supremacism is based on nonsensical information, you just forced them to dig in even deeper and guaranteed that they now want to die for Diaper Don.

[Mblake1981]

I don't think a blunt shape is used initially. You gotta wiggle the pieces up there indiviually and then bundle 'em into a fist or whatever.

Makes you think.

^

why would anyone be afraid of homosexual men? (lol christ)

[Jibartik]

Maybe more security at schools sure..even though the cop at my high school was useless and so were the cops at Uvalde.. and..Vegas..

But that still isn’t enough imo. There needs to be something done to gun legislation even if it’s light or harsh..can anyone who argues “everything but” at least agree that we as a nation need to look at regulation?

Nothing will ever be enough, that's the point.

So you dont start with the unconstitutional solution, that also won't be enough.

[Skarne]

Its so easy once you figure this out.

Because out of all the other solutions only one is unconstitutional: gun regulation.

No I disagree…the constitution says nothing about regulation…it’s the right to bear arms..

Taking away guns completely is off the table. Regulating weapons is.

[Jibartik]

Shall not be infringed.

It's called punctuation. The left thinks that the constitution doesnt have it.

But it does!

It says a well regulated militia is the meat and potatoes of a free nation, and the right to bear arms will not be infringed because bears are bad ass.

[Mblake1981]

Taking away guns completely is off the table. Regulating weapons is.

..in your mind.

[Jibartik]

The constitution says I can have a tank if I want but they didnt know that we'd have such a wide array of military equipment.

But the point of the 2nd amendment was specifically that the citizens be able to match the military power of the nation.

It was not added for personal protection, or hunting, it was added specifically to protect the freedom of the state from a overpowered government.

If we want to regulate our military to match what we regulate our citizens then OK not unconstitutional.

[Skarne]

Shall not be infringed.

It's called punctuation. The left thinks that the constitution doesnt have it.

But it does!

It says a well regulated militia is the meat and potatoes of a free nation, and the right to bear arms will not be infringed because bears are bad ass.

But based on that logic it would be constitutional for anyone to own a gun despite the current regs..it’s just not realistic there’s a reason SCOTUS has ruled on this several times.

[Mblake1981]

But the point of the 2nd amendment was specifically that the citizens be able to match the military power of the nation.

the point of the 2nd was specifically that the Gov can't take away your ability to match (or exceed) the military power of the nation.. but that was before savvy commies with nothing to do with their lives other than grind their rotten STD-infected crotches on it.

[Horza]

No I disagree…the constitution says nothing about regulation…it’s the right to bear arms..

Taking away guns completely is off the table. Regulating weapons is.

Sorry bud, hundreds of children are going to continue to be sacrificed every year because paste eaters like Jib say that they'll try to overthrow the government again if we attempt to do anything about it.

[unsunghero]

The constitution says I can have a tank if I want but they didnt know that we'd have such a wide array of military equipment.

But the point of the 2nd amendment was specifically that the citizens be able to match the military power of the nation.

If we want to regulate our military to match what we regulate our citizens then OK not unconstitutional.

Citizens are probably pretty fucked if the US military was ever turned on them

We’d have to bank on the fact that the military, being composed of humans who have families, wouldn’t want to genocide people and defect (with their tech ideally)

Being aware the Nuremberg Defense is an immoral thing makes it easier to fight against now

[Jibartik]

But based on that logic it would be constitutional for anyone to own a gun despite the current regs..it’s just not realistic there’s a reason SCOTUS has ruled on this several times.

Well yeah, im not going to argue that all the gun laws today are not unconstitutional, because they are.

But I agree we need some, dont get mad at me for just saying it like it is. With a purely constitutional SC we should be able to get rid of them all.

If you want me to say it like it "should be" then we should have a new america forged from the ashes of the old.

[Skarne]

Haha gosh that’s completely unreasonable to me that people here think legislation is completely off the table and untouchable. Despite there already being laws in place about procuring weapons. Hope you guys enjoy dead innocence cause nothings going to change if this board is even 10% reflective of our society.

[Mblake1981]

Sorry bud, hundreds of children are going to continue to be sacrificed every year because paste eaters like Jib say that they'll try to overthrow the government again if we attempt to do anything about it.

Rough on a kid these days, getting blasted by one group and the other group has penis-snips waiting on them.

[Skarne]

Well yeah, im not going to argue that all the gun laws today are not unconstitutional, because they are.

But I agree we need some, dont get mad at me for just saying it like it is. With a purely constitutional SC we should be able to get rid of them all.

If you want me to say it like it "should be" then we should have a new america forged from the ashes of the old.

Don’t get me wrong I’m not mad man just trying to reason with a stranger cause thou shalt not talk politics these days. Especially in a professional environment I leave that to the suits in DC and the internet

[Jibartik]

Again I will say that if we spent the money we spent trying to get rid of guns, on healthcare for kids 25 and below we'd stop most of the school shootings, and a lot of the mass ones.

But youd rather go for the guns, than ALL THESE OTHER totally constitutional and healthy and great solutions. That don't require any authoritarianism and only encourages positivity.

[Horza]

Haha gosh that’s completely unreasonable to me that people here think legislation is completely off the table and untouchable. Despite there already being laws in place about procuring weapons. Hope you guys enjoy dead innocence cause nothings going to change if this board is even 10% reflective of our society.

The Fox News addicts are actually closer to thirty percent and yeah we're going to be pretty fucked as a country.

[Mblake1981]

Haha gosh that’s completely unreasonable to me that people here think legislation is completely off the table and untouchable. Despite there already being laws in place about procuring weapons. Hope you guys enjoy dead innocence cause nothings going to change if this board is even 10% reflective of our society.

And patriam wonders why I set in on this so fast. Broken records. You see the plan works on Skarne at least. I think he would give up rights, whittle things down over time (only for good reasons) until the rights were essentially lip-service only.

Do you guys really play this game for fun and does your conscience ever bother you at night?

Note: Mead went all-in on masks during the Cantonese Cough & Sneeze, where is he again?

[loramin]

Citizens are probably pretty fucked if the US military was ever turned on them

We’d have to bank on the fact that the military, being composed of humans who have families, wouldn’t want to genocide people and defect (with their tech ideally)

Being aware the Nuremberg Defense is an immoral thing makes it easier to fight against now

This, so much. It's not the 2nd amendment standing between us and an elite government takeover of America ... it's the Americans serving under them.

But, our right-wing fantasies about the need to keep our citizenry armed with as much weaponry as possible ... like it was 1776 all over again and they needed protection because the British were coming ... is killing real children today.

[Rethalis]

Haha gosh that’s completely unreasonable to me that people here think legislation is completely off the table and untouchable. Despite there already being laws in place about procuring weapons. Hope you guys enjoy dead innocence cause nothings going to change if this board is even 10% reflective of our society.


Thats another problem, gun grabbers want to demonize and misrepresent legally law abiding citizens because some psycho committed murder.

I have already suggested more security at schools, you know like locked doors too.

Gun free zones invite shooters, I say get rid of them.

another solution could be you know, not defunding police?

but its never enough is it? It has to be regulated to such a specific point where nobody can get a gun anymore.

[Jibartik]

we could have tanks in our back yards, and no mass shootings, if we had propper care system set in place for people who needed it.

If we were a society of people that thought "shit I need help, better go to the help you out clinic!"

Instead of a "Im so sick of all these leaches they all just take take take from me!"

We'd all be a little better off.

But no, we'd rather do the latter on facebook after every mass shooting while we breakdown how everyone we know is dumb by everyone making up everything as quickly as they can.

[Rethalis]

This, so much. It's not the 2nd amendment standing between us and an elite government takeover of America ... it's the Americans serving under them.

But, our right-wing fantasies about the need to keep our citizenry armed with as much weaponry as possible ... like it was 1776 all over again and they needed protection because the British were coming ... is killing real children today.

I'm pretty sure it was a psycho and a dead beat dad that caused this. Not legally law abiding citizens.

[Skarne]

Again I will say that if we spent the money we spent trying to get rid of guns, on healthcare for kids 25 and below we'd stop most of the school shootings, and a lot of the mass ones.

But youd rather go for the guns, than ALL THESE OTHER totally constitutional and healthy and great solutions. That don't require any authoritarianism and only encourages positivity.

And again I will say I don’t believe taking away guns is the answer..people keep hanging on that like that old guy..”from my cold dead hands”. I never said I want to nix weapons in this country and yet it still went to MUH GUNZ!

[Mblake1981]

This, so much. It's not the 2nd amendment standing between us and an elite government takeover of America ... it's the Americans serving under them.

But, our right-wing fantasies about the need to keep our citizenry armed with as much weaponry as possible ... like it was 1776 all over again and they needed protection because the British were coming ... is killing real children today.

Like a woman crawling a man for money.

[Mblake1981]

And again I will say I don’t believe taking away guns is the answer..people keep hanging on that like that old guy..”from my cold dead hands”. I never said I want to nix weapons in this country and yet it still went to MUH GUNZ!

Don't tell me slippery slopes don't exist when people make arguments like this.

[Skarne]

And patriam wonders why I set in on this so fast. Broken records. You see the plan works on Skarne at least. I think he would give up rights, whittle things down over time (only for good reasons) until the rights were essentially lip-service only.

Do you guys really play this game for fun and does your conscience ever bother you at night?

Note: Mead went all-in on masks during the Cantonese Cough & Sneeze, where is he again?

You don’t even know me lol. Who are you to say how far I’d defend my convictions and beliefs.

[Mblake1981]

You don’t even know me lol. Who are you to say how far I’d defend my convictions and beliefs.

I can only comment on what you have typed and what I make of it, there you go.

[Skarne]

Don't tell me slippery slopes don't exist when people make arguments like this.

So then argue against it..you seem to be paranoid about this but you can’t argue why my point is unreasonable? You’re just paranoid and that’s it? Dude if the government wanted to take our guns they’d do it by force and it would be easy for them. Have you ever been in the military? Obviously not.

[Skarne]

I can only comment on what you have typed and what I make of it, there you go.

Haha ok well I could but won’t do the same to you because I try not to sum people up by their internet posts on an EverQuest forum.

[Mblake1981]

Haha ok well I could but won’t do the same to you because I try not to sum people up by their internet posts on an EverQuest forum.

I do, and if what you have typed are just random shit that really isn't you then you have no ground to be offended.

[loramin]

I'm pretty sure it was a psycho and a dead beat dad that caused this. Not legally law abiding citizens.

But again, other countries have psycho/dead beat dads ... and yet they don't have crazy mass killings like we do.

People with mental problems exist worldwide, but it's unique to America that we do so little to limit their access to weaponry.

[Mblake1981]

So then argue against it..you seem to be paranoid about this but you can’t argue why my point is unreasonable? You’re just paranoid and that’s it? Dude if the government wanted to take our guns they’d do it by force and it would be easy for them. Have you ever been in the military? Obviously not.

I have never seen a post written like this before, new to me. Should I do the standard response and say "I have! (cry and sob) you have to look at what I have written already! (cry and sob).

[Mblake1981]

But again, other countries have psycho/dead beat dads ... and yet they don't have crazy mass killings like we do.

People with mental problems exist worldwide, but it's unique to America that we do so little to limit their access to weaponry.

Your first mistake was thinking other countries. Seems hard to get dual-citizens to focus.

[Skarne]

I do, and if what you have typed are just random shit that really isn't you then you have no ground to be offended.

Haha of course you do. You’re a real fungi.

[Mblake1981]

Haha of course you do. You’re a real fungi.

Ok.

The topic isn't fun for me.

[Skarne]

What a meeting of the minds lol. Good talk.

[Reiwa]

It might make a parent pause and go “hmm my socially inept child that I haven’t given 30 total minutes of my attention to their entire life has stayed inside on his computer for the last year and just punched his mom in the face when she asked him to turn off Fortnite. What do I think the chances are he’s going to shoot up a school, because going to prison for the rest of my life is really going to mess up my vacation plans”

I guess if they can prosecute parents for truancy it will, infact, fly. :eek:

[Jibartik]

And again I will say I don’t believe taking away guns is the answer..people keep hanging on that like that old guy..”from my cold dead hands”. I never said I want to nix weapons in this country and yet it still went to MUH GUNZ!

sorry that was a colloquialism for gun control, gun control of any form = taking my guns. That's the point I was trying to make.

However you could do whatever you wanted with healthcare and we have made system thats an absolute TRAIN WRECK out of that, so why start fixing that by adding a new (unconstitutional) train wreck system to manage guns?

[Horza]

sorry that was a colloquialism for gun control, gun control of any form = taking my guns. That's the point I was trying to make.

However you could do whatever you wanted with healthcare and we have made system thats an absolute TRAIN WRECK out of that, so why start fixing that by adding a new (unconstitutional) train wreck system to manage guns?

We could have tanks in our back yards, if only it weren't for those goddamn libs.

[Skarne]

sorry that was a colloquialism for gun control, gun control of any form = taking my guns. That's the point I was trying to make.

However you could do whatever you wanted with healthcare and we have made system thats an absolute TRAIN WRECK out of that, so why start fixing that by adding a new (unconstitutional) train wreck system to manage guns?

Lol nah I disagree. If gun control and any form of it = taking my guns then all guns should already be gone by that logic. It makes no sense.

[Mblake1981]

We could have tanks in our back yards, if only it weren't for those goddamn libs.

"Save yourself"

-an old 155mm Howitzer

[Mblake1981]

Lol nah I disagree. If gun control and any form of it = taking my guns then all guns should already be gone by that logic. It makes no sense.

Why do you think salty motherfuckers are so on edge (lol)

But to be real, it doesn't happen overnight.

[Skarne]

Why do you think salty motherfuckers are so on edge (lol)

Arrg then they shu walk de plank. If yu Don liyke murica u cn get urt.

[Mblake1981]

Arrg then they shu walk de plank. If yu Don liyke murica u cn get urt.

Arrrgh, that be a two-way plank matey

[Skarne]

Why do you think salty motherfuckers are so on edge (lol)

But to be real, it doesn't happen overnight.

In all seriousness I get your point it’s a scary thought. But you can’t assume the worst out of even minimum additional legislation without first seeing if it will help. I know you’re going to say it’s a slippery slope but to fix this issue it’s absolutely irresponsible not to try every avenue within reason. But we don’t get to decide that which is why I get the paranoia about the situation. I don’t have the answers. I’m just trying to understand why all the entrenched positions.

[Mblake1981]

In all seriousness I get your point it’s a scary thought. But you can’t assume the worst out of even minimum additional legislation without first seeing if it will help.

Yes I can, there are no rules stating that I cannot. In fact, it would seem sound reason to do so. Like a cat-burgler testing the windows.

edit: a special treat for Khajiit.

[Elizondo]

The Ukrainian military and civilian militia stepped up and saved their country, no question: I'm not trying to argue otherwise.

What I'm saying is without Western military support it wouldn't have mattered how hard they fought, Russia would have ultimately dominated.

Ukraine is losing, badly

Stop watching CNN

[Skarne]

Yes I can, there are no rules stating that I cannot. In fact, it would seem sound reason to do so. Like a cat-burgler testing the windows.

So it boils down to the fact you’re afraid the government will seize all guns. Got it.

[Reiwa]

Shall not be infringed.

It's called punctuation. The left thinks that the constitution doesnt have it.

But it does!

It says a well regulated militia is the meat and potatoes of a free nation, and the right to bear arms will not be infringed because bears are bad ass.

Twitter told me regulated means 'well supplied' or 'well regimented'.

[Horza]

So it boils down to the fact you’re afraid the government will seize all guns. Got it.

Guns, white women, whatever else. They still haven't gotten over losing the Civil War yet, so they're just itching to have another go at it.

[Mblake1981]

Twitter told me regulated means 'well supplied' or 'well regimented'.

I think the people who make such arguments are bad faith actors.

[unsunghero]

I know a lot of people here hate Matt Walsh but he completely knocks it out of the park with his critique of Uwalde police on his special:

“Well there it is there [in response to Uwalde cop’s argument for why they waited for backup for an hour]. ‘We’ll if they had gone in they could have been shot and killed”. Yeah. Right, they could have been. But that’s your job. You’re a police officer, and those are little children inside that building. So your job is actually to put yourself in between that bad guy and the child. Even if it means you get shot and killed in the process. That’s your job

Don’t want to do that job? Get a different job. Go work at Walmart, I hear they’re hiring. If that’s not a job they’re prepared to do. I mean they’re waiting for a ballistic shield before they can go in. You’re waiting for a ballistic shield…while kids are being executed? Where is your honor as a man? How can you even live with yourself. That’s why I say no one can know how you would react in a situation like this until you’re in the situation…but I just…

How would you not have this compulsion…every fiber in your being, I would think, would be driving you into that room because how could you live with yourself afterwards? Yeah if you go in you might be shot and killed…but if you don’t go in, and you sit outside while kids are dying, you’re going to wish you had been killed. I would rather BE dead than live with that the rest of my life, I couldn’t live with it. So it’s honor and courage that brings you in the door but it’s also in its own way a form of self-preservation because who wants to live a life like that the rest of their life knowing you could have done something while these kids were being slaughtered but you were standing outside waiting for a shield

But they weren’t doing nothing, as video has come out and shown they were handcuffing parents and reportedly tazed at least one of them to stop the parents from going in to rescue their children. There’s video, very heart wrenching video, of parents screaming “go in and save my child” and they weren’t doing it. The parents would try and go in themselves and they would stop the parents. Now listen, if they were already in a gunfight with this guy, and they were already there trying to save the kids, then I can understand keeping the parents out because they’re just going to add to the body count, you’re not gonna let parents just run into the middle of that. But if you’re not doing ANYTHING, if you’re just waiting for an hour for more people to show up, then if you’re not willing to do it and children are being killed and someone else is willing to do it you let them do it

This is totally unconscionable”

[Mblake1981]

So it boils down to the fact you’re afraid the government will seize all guns. Got it.

They can or they can't, legal language doesn't have a tremendous amount of flexibility.

[Skarne]

legal language doesn't have a tremendous amount of flexibility.

I would argue the exact opposite…

[Reiwa]

I think the people who make such arguments are bad faith actors.

no they meant it as a etymological quibble in support of the amendment.

so you probably don't think that. :p

[Skarne]

Haha ^ tldr

[Mblake1981]

I would argue the exact opposite…

It would depend on who is doing it and why?

[Mblake1981]

no they meant it as a etymological quibble in support of the amendment.

so you probably don't think that. :p

think I do.

(I mean its a terrible place to argue, you don't need a reason for any of that but maybe you do because of who is looking and why..)

[Reiwa]

Ukraine is losing, badly

Stop watching CNN

https://i.imgur.com/upIjzKN.jpg

Fact Check: Buffalo Shooting Suspect Misleadingly Linked to Ukraine 'Nazis' (https://www.newsweek.com/fact-check-buffalo-shooting-suspect-misleadingly-linked-ukraine-nazis-1707738)

[starkind]

Has anyone mentioned it's 19 kids and 2 teachers? Or am I mixing this one up with another one?

[Mblake1981]

Has anyone mentioned it's 19 kids and 2 teachers? Or am I mixing this one up with another one?

the meme is the USA has so many you lose count, Canada Moose.

[Jibartik]

Guns, white women, whatever else. They still haven't gotten over losing the Civil War yet, so they're just itching to have another go at it.

democrats started and lost the civil war.

[starkind]

I live in a rural meth addled hick town in the south. Lotsa gunfire here last 3 years. This years been quieter tho.

[Jibartik]

I would argue the exact opposite…

If that were true then you wouldn't be saying the same things I was saying 20 years ago and getting shot down by the same arguments i was getting shot down with then too.

I wouldn't be surprised if the NRA's only job was to keep the attention off the healthcare and education problems we have in this country.

[Mblake1981]

I live in a rural meth addled hick town in the south. Lotsa gunfire here last 3 years. This years been quieter tho.

Sure.

[unsunghero]

..,

[starkind]

Good ppl don't get those jobs. Good robots do.

P.s. it's everyone's job to stop an active shooter. Even before they become one. Use your heads ppl.

[Reiwa]

https://www.project1999.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=17842&stc=1&thumb=1&d=1653704604

Doctrine changes if the target is barricaded(vs active). You had a post on it earlier.

They just got it wrong.

[Mblake1981]

P.s. it's everyone's job to stop an active shooter. Even before they become one. Use your heads ppl.

No it isn't.

[starkind]

Zerg hivemind best IMHO.

[starkind]

No it isn't.

U r welcome to disagree but I disogree with ur disgreemunt.

[unsunghero]

We need more Kevin Hollands around

[Mblake1981]

U r welcome to disagree but I disogree with ur disgreemunt.

Oh please.

[starkind]

We R burg

[Mblake1981]

We need more Kevin Hollands around

There was a wild rumor once that Jay Leno carried people(s) around to take photos of him when he does good deeds.

[Reiwa]

We R burg

Remember when the tea of the week was 'immigrants must assimilate'?

[unsunghero]

Or we need more people like this mom who’s last act was, while ON FIRE, to throw her kid out the window to a former football player who caught her and saved her life

Football player ended up getting most of the glory when really mom deserved it

[starkind]

Remember when the tea of the week was 'immigrants must assimilate'?

Never had a problem with this ☕

[Jibartik]

Remember when the tea of the week was 'immigrants must assimilate'?

9/11 ended that immediately

[robayon]

I have a couple.

Some sort of team sports or clubs at school should be mandatory for graduation.

Shut down the funding for planned parenthood, give it to the boys and girls club instead.

xx hours required of "volunteer" work senior year of high school.

i see we're channeling a bored democrat spouse posting from the suburbs on nextdoor.com, a truly brave post

[Duik]

Simples...
Shooter was flagged pvp. Cops were bluebies. Blame the seperation of servers.
Solution, merge Red and Blue.
Badump Bump. /s
So, the answer to a bad guy with a gun (shooter) is a good guy (or guys or Police) with a gun(s).
How did that work for yas in Texass? Just asking a question. Ill wait.

[Elizondo]

So, the answer to a bad guy with a gun (shooter) is a good guy (or guys or Police) with a gun(s).
How did that work for yas in Texass? Just asking a question. Ill wait.

The shooter was killed by good guys with a gun you paste eating Groomer

[Duik]

After.
An.
Hour.

Edit bit.
And what is with the paste eating groomer schtick?
Paste eaters are us repubs. Groomers are southern state lawmakers encouraging underage marriage. You have me confused my friend.
As a reminder, Paste is for worms.
Groomers live near you.
Lesson ends.

[Reiwa]

Groomers are southern state lawmakers encouraging underage marriage.

oh my god im going to scream. :mad:

the tennessee law legislation did not contain age of consent(marriage) language because age of consent(marriage) is covered under a different section of their legal code.

I hope a saltwater crocodile eats you up.

[Elizondo]

After.
An.
Hour.

Edit bit.
And what is with the paste eating groomer schtick?
Paste eaters are us repubs. Groomers are southern state lawmakers encouraging underage marriage. You have me confused my friend.
As a reminder, Paste is for worms.
Groomers live near you.
Lesson ends.

https://www.vice.com/en/article/qjby4b/anarchist-collective-shares-instructions-to-make-diy-abortion-pills?utm_source=motherboard_twitter

In the video, Laufer explains that, besides being used to medically induce abortions, misoprostol is also used to treat ulcers in horses. This makes misoprostol powder relatively easy to acquire from veterinary sources. (This is reminiscent of ivermectin, which is used to control parasites in horses but also became a favored—but ineffective—COVID treatment among conspiracy theorists. Ivermectin’s use in horses made it easier for humans to get without a prescription.)

[Duik]

Didnt say made it law. Just said encouraged. Quick to defend though, but i forgive. Plus a crocs gotta eat too.

[Duik]

After.
An.
Hour?

But a full rant on (unrelated) covid blah and abortion blah blah.
Covid thread is that way man!
Nice try though. Your linking and quoting skills exceeds mine so there is that.

[Elizondo]

After.
An.
Hour?

But a full rant on (unrelated) covid blah and abortion blah blah.
Covid thread is that way man!
Nice try though. Your linking and quoting skills exceeds mine so there is that.

SMH you're dense

[Duik]

Ok. SMH = Sydney Morning Herald, shitty news paper here.

But homemade abortion powder has exactly what to do with shooting guns in schools (or anywhere in public really)?
So if it takes an hour to protect folk with carried guns on trained police then...
ohh forget it. Ill look up my own unrelated links on covid and abortion and call myself a (horse) groomer.

Oh, to Reiwa thanks for the Simpsons perfection hat reminder earlier. Made me watch chilli time hat episode. Hehe gold.
Toodle pipski, fuckers.

[Elizondo]

So if it takes an hour to protect folk with carried guns on trained police then...
ohh forget it. Ill look up my own unrelated links on covid and abortion and call myself a (horse) groomer.

The police didn't kill the shooter you paste eating groomer

[Reiwa]

SMH you're dense

You said the abortion paste thing cuz he said paste?

Pasta means paste (https://youtu.be/VcJqp7n5FfY)

[Duik]

Dumbfuck.
Didnt say they killed him, i said if it takes an hour or more for cops to act (in this case by calling someome better ie border control) what point is arming untrained civillians who btw were stopped by cops from using there rights to protect there own kids with and without guns. Argue if ya want. Some law abiding citizens were obstructed from being the good guy with a gun.
Again, forget it. Ill call myself a groomer.

[Mblake1981]

Ok. SMH = Sydney Morning Herald, shitty news paper here.

But homemade abortion powder has exactly what to do with shooting guns in schools (or anywhere in public really)?
So if it takes an hour to protect folk with carried guns on trained police then...
ohh forget it. Ill look up my own unrelated links on covid and abortion and call myself a (horse) groomer.

https://i.imgur.com/NEioqXo.gif

[Duik]

Ha. That dumb cunt has a great chance to have his guts ripped the fuck out for an internet moment. I really hope he fucked around and found out.
Anywho, guns held by bad guys kill good guys without.
And cops (good guys) get owned by bad guys with guns albiet only for an hour until a grown up turns up and saves em.
Them Border guards must have more practice at shooting bad guys from Mexico than trained Texass Cops do.
Well done Capt'n Cowboy Hat!
TLDR Merge Blue (states) with Red (states)and enable pvp in the US(SR)
the Untied States (of) Soviet Republicans.
#Go Team Bled Fuck Yeah.
See what i did there?

[starkind]

Dumbfuck.
Didnt say they killed him, i said if it takes an hour or more for cops to act (in this case by calling someome better ie border control) what point is arming untrained civillians who btw were stopped by cops from using there rights to protect there own kids with and without guns. Argue if ya want. Some law abiding citizens were obstructed from being the good guy with a gun.
Again, forget it. Ill call myself a groomer.

Key Word: Police State

and they want ur guns (even if they say they don't on public TV and at rallies)

[Elizondo]

Ha. That dumb cunt has a great chance to have his guts ripped the fuck out for an internet moment. I really hope he fucked around and found out.
Anywho, guns held by bad guys kill good guys without.
And cops (good guys) get owned by bad guys with guns albiet only for an hour until a grown up turns up and saves em.
Them Border guards must have more practice at shooting bad guys from Mexico than trained Texass Cops do.
Well done Capt'n Cowboy Hat!
TLDR Merge Blue (states) with Red (states)and enable pvp in the US(SR)
the Untied States (of) Soviet Republicans.
#Go Team Bled Fuck Yeah.
See what i did there?

The cops aren't legally required to protect you

The border agent was off duty

See what i did there?

[unsunghero]

Doctrine changes if the target is barricaded(vs active). You had a post on it earlier.

They just got it wrong.

I’m going with the assumption that it was an incompetent chief because there is no way that many officers are all cowards at the same time. They must have been given a stand down order because in a hostage situation you don’t breach

However, the constant gunshots should have been a clear indicator that could have been communicated to said police chief that this wasn’t a hostage situation and that he was killing all the hostages

So if it was the police chief’s call not to attempt to breach a barricade that could easily be breached by PD then he should resign in disgrace and personally apologize to the families of the victims

That police department is a disgrace

[unsunghero]

^
A 16yr old boy had more balls than the entire uvalde police department. If I remember right there was a petition to name the school gymnasium after him

The world will not forget its heroes and its COWARDS

[Reiwa]

I’m going with the assumption that it was an incompetent chief because there is no way that many officers are all cowards at the same time. They must have been given a stand down order because in a hostage situation you don’t breach

However, the constant gunshots should have been a clear indicator that could have been communicated to said police chief that this wasn’t a hostage situation and that he was killing all the hostages

So if it was the police chief’s call not to attempt to breach a barricade that could easily be breached by PD then he should resign in disgrace and personally apologize to the families of the victims

That police department is a disgrace

Mostly agree. But he shouldn't apologize, that opens him to personal liability and civil judgments. Everyone is better served if the departments insurance handles it, families of the wrongfully deceased will be better restored by him doing the wrong thing(again).

Never apologize for anything, it's a perverse system we have.

[Jibartik]

Everyone in America seems to think these cops should be more prepared for a kid randomly shooting his grandma barricading himself into a classroom and then killing all the hostages without negotiating.

lol what the f do you really think that America is so fucked up that regular police are supposed to be prepared to make zero mistakes for that? lol

If they busted in and he killed all the kids we’d be like oh you shouldn’t of rushed him! Use your words!

Americans Simply think everyone is their employee, and everyone of their employees sucks at their job and that everyone of their employees is a leech and then they go out and assault people because there are 320 million other people doing that to each other because that’s the way they do here!

[Ooloo]

Quick sidebar: Did he shoot his grandma or his mom? Keep hearing so many conflicting things on this. Not that it really matters. I'm also still curious: Did the mom\grandma die? Cause she apparently was the one who alerted neighbors\police about what happened? I know she got shot in the face but hey people have survived that.

[Jibartik]

Quick sidebar: Did he shoot his grandma or his mom? Keep hearing so many conflicting things on this. Not that it really matters. I'm also still curious: Did the mom\grandma die? Cause she apparently was the one who alerted neighbors\police about what happened? I know she got shot in the face but hey people have survived that.

It kinda matters, like if he would have been aborted had his drug addict mom been able to have easy access to it when she whored it up as a teen and left him in the arms of a tired and historically bad at raising children grandmother.

I mean one could make that argument :D

[Elizondo]

Quick sidebar: Did he shoot his grandma or his mom? Keep hearing so many conflicting things on this. Not that it really matters. I'm also still curious: Did the mom\grandma die? Cause she apparently was the one who alerted neighbors\police about what happened? I know she got shot in the face but hey people have survived that.

How did an 18 year old hamburger flipper afford all that weaponry

At least 10K

Then we have this:

https://buffalonews.com/news/local/authorities-investigating-if-retired-federal-agent-knew-of-buffalo-mass-shooting-plans-in-advance/article_bd408f18-dd39-11ec-be53-df8fdd095d6f.html

Authorities investigating if retired federal agent knew of Buffalo mass shooting plans in advance

Authorities believe the former agent – believed to be from Texas – was one of at least six individuals who regularly communicated with accused gunman Payton Gendron in an online chat room where racist hatred was discussed, the two officials said.

[Jibartik]

Guns are expensive, how are these kids getting armed? PPP loans?

[Ooloo]

Gotta love the insanely dumb arguments taking place on social media. I keep seeing this interaction:

"What do you propose we do?"
"WELL SOMETHING WOULD BE BETTER THAN NOTHING!!!"
"....Okay, so what do you propose?"
"!!!!!!!!!!!"

[Jibartik]

hmm...

https://i.imgur.com/nFOPFhq.gif

[unsunghero]

It kinda matters, like if he would have been aborted had his drug addict mom been able to have easy access to it when she whored it up as a teen and left him in the arms of a tired and historically bad at raising children grandmother.

I mean one could make that argument :D

I think in his case the parent just agreed to allow him to stay at grandmother’s without transferring custody

But what I find kind of stupid about our systems here, is that if a deadbeat parent criminal/drug user abuses or neglects their child, CPS will remove custody and then first look for kinship placement

That kinship placement is often with the grandparents. The same grandparents who raised a drug addict criminal future deadbeat parent to begin with. So now they get a second try with an already screwed up kid but now they are much older. No surprise that quite often these kinship placements also don’t work out

[robayon]

Gotta love the insanely dumb arguments taking place on social media. I keep seeing this interaction:

"What do you propose we do?"
"WELL SOMETHING WOULD BE BETTER THAN NOTHING!!!"
"....Okay, so what do you propose?"
"!!!!!!!!!!!"Hey Ooloo are you gonna respond to the problems found with Lott's paper on gun violence in the United States?

For your convenience: https://www.project1999.com/forums/showpost.php?p=3462972&postcount=379

[Elizondo]

Hey Ooloo are you gonna respond to the problems found with Lott's paper on gun violence in the United States?

For your convenience: https://www.project1999.com/forums/showpost.php?p=3462972&postcount=379

Adam Lankford is a totally discredited hack

His paper is a fraud

[robayon]

Adam Lankford is a totally discredited hack

His paper is a fraudThanks for input from the toddler caucus, but your envy does not mean much in this arena

[Elizondo]

Thanks for input from the toddler caucus, but your envy does not mean much in this arena

You admitted in your original post you hadn't done any research into Lankford

I don't have enough information either way for Lankford

Turns out he won't provide his raw data or research methods on how he came up with his numbers. Not even to the Washington Post

Stick to flingin poo. More your IQ level.

[Kaveh]

Everyone in America seems to think these cops should be more prepared for a kid randomly shooting his grandma barricading himself into a classroom and then killing all the hostages without negotiating.

lol what the f do you really think that America is so fucked up that regular police are supposed to be prepared to make zero mistakes for that? lol

If they busted in and he killed all the kids we’d be like oh you shouldn’t of rushed him! Use your words!

Americans Simply think everyone is their employee, and everyone of their employees sucks at their job!

I agree with this. “Customer is always right” mentality. In reality, the person with less expertise on a topic is almost always wrong

My problem with the police is they probably told some armed dads they couldn’t go in. Ok, you don’t want to go in? Fine. But let some father go save his child or die in the attempt. I’m 99% sure I would’ve let the cops kill me before I stood outside waiting for the knowledge that my children inside bled out with their final moments being pure torment.

Tough situation. The cops were gonna be blamed either way. I think the mother of the shooter should be charged with all of his murders and we should start holding parents accountable. Even for their kids bad grades. You want a child? Do your fucking job as a parent then

[Duik]

The point here was members of ya general public were ready, willing and able to head off a bad guy with a gun using your logic for why you need guns AND THE DUMB CUNTS STOPPED THEM.
Stopped them from using their god given, 2nd Amendment rights (your words) to deal with situations EXACTLY LIKE THAT.
Makes no sense to someone that can apply logic to a situation. The dumb cunt cops sorta (exactly) forced the local militia to stand down.
I dont believe removing guns (in the US) would make any difference. Some numbers were tossed around that to rid the US of the shear numbers of guns would require 600 years @ 1 gun per minute.
An aussie like hand in of guns would fail cause we werent married to our guns and didnt believe EVERYONE was out to get us so we need to keepem.
US citizens otoh seem to have many situations that indicate that a gun weilding human makes a potential assailant choose the other guy to harrass or rob or whatever.
Proving that guns do sorta work, so getting those folk to volutarily hand in is never gonna happen. Why waste the time then.
So you guys have ya guns, amendments, god given-ness and you still cant deal with these situations in a state that perports to extoll the virtues of make the perp choose another what, school or nursing home or grocery store or preschool with the use of another gun or guns.
Illogical.
I am a paste eating groomer though so what would I know.
Oh and in before the math of @ 1 gun per minute etc is tossed down. It was just to give a visual indication to an ignorant (of the gun numbers in the US) audience a point of reference. But have at it. Deflect the real issue with attacks on my math, paste eating, grooming and Aussieness. Instead defend/explain the (in)actions of the Texass Hat Corps.
Toodle Pipski fuckers
Quote from someone who os clueless
The cops aren't legally required to protect you

The border agent was off duty

See what i did there?

Still are not seeing the point. Great no wonder you guys need to be armed. What a lovely mess you have. Armed cops dont have to protect you from gunmen, but they can stop YOU from doing it. Genius#!#
Looking forward to something similar soon.

[Reiwa]

Some numbers were tossed around that to rid the US of the shear numbers of guns would require 600 years @ 1 gun per minute.

-r2xXtSsPV0

[Duik]

Please read.
I dont wanna (and cant) turk yur gurns.
But i do wanna understand why the parents couldnt protect their kids in this situation. Fairly simple. Never once did i say take their guns, in fact at one point i agreed with the have a gun and stop a bad situation happening. Again reading helps. Again, deflecting with something unrelated. Good.
Simple question. Why did the cops (who dont have to protect anyone) actively stop other law abiding citizens from protecting their kids.
It is opposite to what was designed to happen.
Also, if old mate was off duty why didnt the cops stop off duty private citizen border guard from going in? Again, makes zero sense.
Looking forward to the next deflecting response saying cops can do what they want blah and blah and more blah.
To late Reiwa. I said in before re @1 gun per minute.
In the words of Jimmy Barnes There aint no second prize.

[Horza]

Everyone in America seems to think these cops should be more prepared for a kid randomly shooting his grandma barricading himself into a classroom and then killing all the hostages without negotiating.

lol what the f do you really think that America is so fucked up that regular police are supposed to be prepared to make zero mistakes for that? lol

If they busted in and he killed all the kids we’d be like oh you shouldn’t of rushed him! Use your words!

Americans Simply think everyone is their employee, and everyone of their employees sucks at their job and that everyone of their employees is a leech and then they go out and assault people because there are 320 million other people doing that to each other because that’s the way they do here!

These gullible morons just don't realize the police exist to protect capital and nobody with power or influence gives a shit about their kids.

[Reiwa]

To late Reiwa. I said in before re @1 gun per minute.
In the words of Jimmy Barnes There aint no second prize.

Sure there is. Show us your balls.

We will add your uniqueness to our own.

[Duik]

Momma said never play with yo balls. I said why momma? Momma says it'll make yo eyes water.

[Elizondo]

I am a paste eating groomer

Yes

[Duik]

Yes

You win the interwebs!#!
Take me to burns ward. Stat.

[Duik]

Sherlock Holmes was asked why did that naughty boy shoot up the school. His answer was "Elementary my dear Watson".
Its Joke O Clock. Says it on my hat. Joke Time. And it has a clock. Fuckers.

[Duik]

Triple post. Madz!!

[Duik]

Quote:
Originally Posted by Kaveh
My problem with the police is they probably told some armed dads they couldn’t go in. Ok, you don’t want to go in? Fine. But let some father go save his child or die in the attempt. I’m 99% sure I would’ve let the cops kill me before I stood outside waiting for the knowledge that my children inside bled out with their final moments being pure torment.

This guy gets it. Surely he cant be the only one.
Texans need more gun practice to get gud. Maybe, i dunno.
The best response Smelizondo has is to burns ward me or call me names. Or unrelated abortion/covid posts and links.
Never any answers of substance. I get it, this is rants and flames no wait. Nvm.
The problem is yours. But some of us here share the grief of these situations with you.
We have few related shootings here and it gets to me. Again and again they happen there and there appears to be no answer. Yas are stuck in a circle.
Geometry may help.

Link me up Elizondope!

[DMN]

Strange things happen when you import your police force.

[Gustoo]

lSab01vhpoY

catching up on the thread. man what a hero

[Gustoo]

At the end of the day what you're ultimately saying is "kids (and other innocent people) should die so that I can have my fantasy (and again, it is a fantasy) of some day using guns to stand up to a corrupt US government." Because again, unlike cars and hammers, we don't need guns.

At the end of the day what you're ultimately saying is "based on no evidence whatsoever, I want to give up the 2nd most important right in our "bill of rights" to an increasingly totalitarian government on the hopes that the possibility that losing this right MIGHT make us more safe, and that I am unready to admit that guns are the least significant contributor to the dangers of the decayed society I live in"

Regarding "we don't need guns" tell that to a 110lb woman who makes the mistake of existing while simultaneously needing to occasionally (god forbid, REGULARLY) walk home in the dark.

[Gustoo]

but there's a mountain of evidence showing that some (obviously not all; the details matter) gun control laws do reduce gun violence.



I have to ask, are you being intentionally dense or are you still honestly thinking that this point needs to be made?

If there was a reduction in bodies of water, there would be a reduction in drowning deaths.

If there was a reduction in guns, there would be a reduction in gun deaths.

This is a logical certainty, it requires no study, and is the exact same thing as 1 + 1 equals 2.

[Gustoo]

Its so easy once you figure this out.

Because out of all the solutions only one is unconstitutional.

quoted for truth.

[Gustoo]

This, so much. It's not the 2nd amendment standing between us and an elite government takeover of America ... it's the Americans serving under them.

But, our right-wing fantasies about the need to keep our citizenry armed with as much weaponry as possible ... like it was 1776 all over again and they needed protection because the British were coming ... is killing real children today.

So you're making the argument that since the government is so big and evil, and that you think the humans in the military are depraved enough to mass murder americans on US Soil, that it makes sense to give up your 2nd amendment right.

That doesn't seem like a sound chain of logic.

Also do the fucking math US owned guns vs actual US soldiers. It comes back to the US military needing to mass bomb entire populations if it came to an actual rebellion, and again, the fact that the US government could and might consider mass bombing us is NOT a compelling argument to abandon the second amendment.

[Gustoo]

Simples...
Shooter was flagged pvp. Cops were bluebies. Blame the seperation of servers.
Solution, merge Red and Blue.


thread is over please close

[Jibartik]

I cant stand listening to people say the government would never take over when they literally hyperventilating about a fake insurrection for 2 years.

after 3 years of failed attempts to remove someone from the whitehouse they said that PUTIN put there.

The civil war is happening, the democrats started the first and this one, and they want the guns gone because they know they are going to lose this one without that happening.

Ill keep my guns because people like loramin and horza accusing me of being a racist fascist when all i want is to stop manufacturing in china.

[Reiwa]

Its so easy once you figure this out.

Because out of all the solutions only one is unconstitutional.

JPS in 2018 gently reminded everyone that gotta do something about the 2nd to get any real change and everyone from every side got super aggro at him.

poor little justice emeritus.

[robayon]

JPS in 2018 gently reminded everyone that gotta do something about the 2nd to get any real change and everyone from every side got super aggro at him.

poor little justice emeritus.The conservatives have ideas, it's just that unfortunately, most of them are absolutely stupid

Mental health is the only decent suggestion but I'm skeptical even that would ever yield legislation, much less legislation that passes both chambers and gets signed and is effective

All of this to avoid the elephant in the room that we call "gun control"

[Reiwa]

The conservatives have ideas, it's just that unfortunately, most of them are absolutely stupid

Mental health is the only decent suggestion but I'm skeptical even that would ever yield legislation, much less legislation that passes both chambers and gets signed and is effective

All of this to avoid the elephant in the room that we call "gun control"

https://www.project1999.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=17848&stc=1&thumb=1&d=1653837544

17, 18, 28, 37(except a bank instead), 41, 42

25 is the meanest shit.

[loramin]

At the end of the day what you're ultimately saying is "based on no evidence whatsoever, I want to give up the 2nd most important right in our "bill of rights" to an increasingly totalitarian government on the hopes that the possibility that losing this right MIGHT make us more safe, and that I am unready to admit that guns are the least significant contributor to the dangers of the decayed society I live in"

Regarding "we don't need guns" tell that to a 110lb woman who makes the mistake of existing while simultaneously needing to occasionally (god forbid, REGULARLY) walk home in the dark.

I never said "remove every gun from America"! On the contrary, what I keep repeating is that we need sensible gun laws, and this slavish fantasization of the 2nd amendment (we need automatic weapons in case the army comes for us!) is stopping that.

I have to ask, are you being intentionally dense or are you still honestly thinking that this point needs to be made?

If there was a reduction in bodies of water, there would be a reduction in drowning deaths.

If there was a reduction in guns, there would be a reduction in gun deaths.

This is a logical certainty, it requires no study, and is the exact same thing as 1 + 1 equals 2.

So if the logic is so simple, let's use it to save childrens lives.

[Mblake1981]

https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/deceitful
https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/statism

[unsunghero]

I never said "remove every gun from America"! On the contrary, what I keep repeating is that we need sensible gun laws, and this slavish fantasization of the 2nd amendment (we need automatic weapons in case the army comes for us!) is stopping that.



So if the logic is so simple, let's use it to save childrens lives.

I’m far from a gun nut, so I’m sure one of them could clarify, but I believe very very few people in the USA have a license that allows them to posses a fully automatic weapon. It’s either current high ranking military or police that can get this I believe

So you must mean semi-automatic. So if we take that technology away, we go back to single action revolvers like in the Wild West days? Or go further back to powder loading muskets?

It helps to know about guns in and out before deciding which are the most dangerous and why. I certainly don’t so I won’t try

[Reiwa]

I’m far from a gun nut, so I’m sure one of them could clarify, but I believe very very few people in the USA have a license that allows them to posses a fully automatic weapon. It’s either current high ranking military or police that can get this I believe

So you must mean semi-automatic. So if we take that technology away, we go back to single action revolvers like in the Wild West days? Or go further back to powder loading muskets?

It helps to know about guns in and out before deciding which are the most dangerous and why. I certainly don’t so I won’t try

automatic loading.

[unsunghero]

automatic loading.

So semi-automatic? So anything that doesn’t use a lever like the old revolvers did?

That’s a hell of a long way backwards in gun tech

[Mblake1981]

baANfIEvcpI

https://i.imgur.com/sNqxJ8k.png

[Reiwa]

So semi-automatic? So anything that doesn’t use a lever like the old revolvers did?

That’s a hell of a long way backwards in gun tech

All the way to 1776 baby!

[unsunghero]

So if we go back to Wild West revolvers, I’ve seen some cowboy movies where a cowboy “fans” the back of the gun’s lever with his other hand to shoot rapidly, making it seem almost as fast as a semi-automatic

Would that be cool or should we ban that? No gun fanning? Or is the decrease in potential accuracy a decent trade off?

[Reiwa]

So if we go back to Wild West revolvers, I’ve seen some cowboy movies where a cowboy “fans” the back of the gun’s lever with his other hand to shoot rapidly, making it seem almost as fast as a semi-automatic

Would that be cool or should we ban that? No gun fanning? Or is the decrease in potential accuracy a decent trade off?

Restrict technology not technique. I forget the word for a good shooter, gunslinger?

[unsunghero]

Restrict technology not technique. I forget the word for a good shooter, gunslinger?

Or if we just culturally go back to Wild West days in all areas, school shootings also disappear

I look damn cool in a cowboy hat, not a huge fan of horses though

[Reiwa]

Or if we just culturally go back to Wild West days in all areas, school shootings also disappear

I look damn cool in a cowboy hat, not a huge fan of horses though

If the untrained or inexperienced have less access to a technological crutch, it'll reduce the lethality of both crazy punks and uh...people who hold their guns sideways. :o

[Mblake1981]

If the untrained or inexperienced have less access to a technological crutch, it'll reduce the lethality of both crazy punks and uh...people who hold their guns sideways. :o

So it was racism. Sorry you live in a place where the participants suck at the game.

[unsunghero]

I think a dude in a locked classroom with a full hour given to him by highly incompetent police to kill 30 kids could do it with 2 revolvers

He could probably do it with a knife. I think most psychos could do it with their bare hands. First 5 minutes inside: locate makeshift clubbing weapon. Switch arms when one gets tired and pace oneself, utilize the full hour. That kinda thing :(

[Reiwa]

I think a dude in a locked classroom with a full hour given to him by highly incompetent police to kill 30 kids could do it with 2 revolvers

He could probably do it with a knife. I think most psychos could do it with their bare hands. First 5 minutes inside: locate makeshift clubbing weapon. Switch arms when one gets tired and pace oneself, utilize the full hour. That kinda thing :(

Is that the usual circumstance?

[unsunghero]

Is that the usual circumstance?

I imagine two very common, more influential than the type of gun, factors when it comes to casualty counts are

1. Are all exits blocked by the killer

And

2. Police response time and method

[Reiwa]

So it was racism. Sorry you live in a place where the participants suck at the game.

I never mentioned race? Perhaps you are the real racist.

[Elizondo]

JPS in 2018 gently reminded everyone that gotta do something about the 2nd to get any real change and everyone from every side got super aggro at him.

poor little justice emeritus.

Let's ban forceps first

[Mblake1981]

I never mentioned race? Perhaps you are the real racist.

Indeed, as I carry my gun sideways.

[unsunghero]

Going on a hike

My suggestion: ban the means to block people’s escape routes from buildings. Can’t shoot fish in a barrel without a barrel

[Reiwa]

Indeed, as I carry my gun sideways.

Well you shouldn't be allowed an automatic then.

Play better.

[Mblake1981]

Well you shouldn't be allowed an automatic then.

Play better.

Did you miss the sign, check your autism at the door.

[Rethalis]

So if the logic is so simple, let's use it to save childrens lives.

Lets start with defunding planned parenthood. That will save way more children lives than more gun control.

[Reiwa]

Did you miss the sign, check your autism at the door.

I haven't even started talking about taxes or insurance.

We have such sights to show you.

[Mblake1981]

I haven't even started talking about taxes or insurance.

We have such sights to show you.

And it isn't hands that call you, it is desire. Read: Blow it out your sorry ass.

[loramin]

Lets start with defunding planned parenthood. That will save way more children lives than more gun control.

Only someone with truly low intelligence could equate a fetus (a bundle of microscopic cells) to a child.

[Mblake1981]

Only someone with truly low intelligence could equate a fetus (a bundle of microscopic cells) to a child.

Do. Not. Ever. Speak. of thinking or looking out for kids, in this thread or ever around me again, or so help me I will take up an e-campaign to grief your wiki-ass to dust.

[loramin]

Do. Not. Ever. Speak. of thinking or looking out for kids, in this thread or ever around me again, or so help me I will take up an e-campaign to grief your wiki-ass to dust.

Again, you're an idiot. An gnat is closer to a child than an early-stage fetus: it has far more mass, more cells, more intelligence, etc.

[Mblake1981]

Again, you're an idiot. An gnat is closer to a child than an early-stage fetus: it has far more mass, more cells, more intelligence, etc.

It was your choice.