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Xadion
12-20-2013, 11:38 PM
I am very disappointed in this community...
that no one has made a new subbed angers Hitler video yet.
Autotune
12-21-2013, 12:13 AM
Of all the threads in which you could bring up past events, you chose the one titled "recent events".
I've just been correcting people.
53 pages... mostly kinda meh but with a few random highlights, what this thread needs is a page 8
zanderklocke
12-21-2013, 12:24 AM
53 pages... mostly kinda meh but with a few random highlights, what this thread needs is a page 8
Yeah...I've realized a lot of the threads on the forums are sort of just reiterating the same information over and over like a circle jerk. Not a whole lot of interesting information in any of the threads.
Obito
12-21-2013, 12:26 AM
You play on the same server, clearly you are guilty as well.
Let's say p99 is a school. Everyone has their own clique's. Now maybe you don't exploit and cheat, but you know some of the people in your clique have been called out on that before.
Now your friend asks you to hold something for him (borrow your account). When you get rolled up on by security/police/gm's and they see that you have been holding onto something for your friend. Does it not make you liable?
You chose your friends, you chose who to hang out with regardless of the rumors.
That is why you are guilty by association and will be held accountable for you and your friends actions.
hynch
12-21-2013, 12:29 AM
I am very disappointed in this community...
that no one has made a new subbed angers Hitler video yet.
Your wish is my command.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZCAln8j1kMk
thugcruncher
12-21-2013, 12:37 AM
http://www.reactiongifs.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/12/cry-about-it-lol.gif
Obito
12-21-2013, 12:37 AM
Thanks for that Hynch, my sides hurt now :(
Atmas
12-21-2013, 12:41 AM
Let's say p99 is a school. Everyone has their own clique's. Now maybe you don't exploit and cheat, but you know some of the people in your clique have been called out on that before.
Now your friend asks you to hold something for him (borrow your account). When you get rolled up on by security/police/gm's and they see that you have been holding onto something for your friend. Does it not make you liable?
You chose your friends, you chose who to hang out with regardless of the rumors.
That is why you are guilty by association and will be held accountable for your and your friends actions.
Ok by your post I shouldn't be guilty. My toons aren't banned, no one logged on to my account, and yet still raid suspended. Also these comparisons are big stretches, but I guess its tough to equate some of these things to real life.
Further, there were no rumors aside from the random people always tinfoil hatting TMO. These same people claim that TMO gets GM favoritism so no point in putting stock in that at all. Anyway, do you really think people would dupe stuff and be openly telling anyone about it? I mean its an MMO with people playing across the globe, you think everyone is aware of what everyone else does 24 hours a day? There is a lot of logic stretching for people to try to justify punishment of a lot of innocent people for the stupidity of a few.
Atmas
12-21-2013, 12:42 AM
You've played for 3 years.
you know TMO has a history of RMT, HACKING, DUPING, TRAINING, EXPLOITS, FORUMRAGING, VIRGINITY, MORE VIRGINITY, and yet you still join and still raid under their tag.
Guilty, by association.
madfaggot.
Deguild, pussy
Is this Harrison? How you doing buddy? I hope you have gotten some help.
JackFlash
12-21-2013, 12:43 AM
Your wish is my command.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZCAln8j1kMk
This deserves an Oscar or whatever the hell they give this kind of thing.
Barkingturtle
12-21-2013, 12:46 AM
Your wish is my command.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZCAln8j1kMk
http://media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lwudxidwA61qbbi50.gif
Emile
12-21-2013, 12:48 AM
Your wish is my command.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZCAln8j1kMk
A+ sticky imo
Troubled
12-21-2013, 12:50 AM
Your wish is my command.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZCAln8j1kMk
LOL great one man.
Rellapse36
12-21-2013, 12:52 AM
Let's say p99 is a school. Everyone has their own clique's. Now maybe you don't exploit and cheat, but you know some of the people in your clique have been called out on that before.
Now your friend asks you to hold something for him (borrow your account). When you get rolled up on by security/police/gm's and they see that you have been holding onto something for your friend. Does it not make you liable?
You chose your friends, you chose who to hang out with regardless of the rumors.
That is why you are guilty by association and will be held accountable for you and your friends actions.
http://www.project1999.com/forums/image.php?u=26766&dateline=1359034619
Pullyn
12-21-2013, 12:56 AM
Your wish is my command.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZCAln8j1kMk
You sir win at forumquest. Great work!
Atmas
12-21-2013, 12:56 AM
Your wish is my command.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZCAln8j1kMk
I have to admit that is funny.
Millburn
12-21-2013, 12:57 AM
Page 55 Status Update
Still no apology from anyone in TMO.
Aeaolena
12-21-2013, 01:01 AM
Your wish is my command.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZCAln8j1kMk
If I wasn't already married, I would be proposing to Hynch right now.
Tasslehofp99
12-21-2013, 01:10 AM
I'm really suprised people aren't just posting all the fraps they have of tmo cheating/exploiting from over the past 2 years. I'm shocked TMO members are trying to say this recent occurrence is not an accurate reflection of their guild's behaviour going on over 2 years ago now.
And ps alarti you wanna talk consistency?
How about FE taking a raid suspension for training last week? Those of us with integrity and honesty know that TMO trained FE first, on a character named Nuit. However we weren't sitting there trying to argue that 2 wrongs make a right, since our train was done in retaliation to yours. We took our due punishment and moved on. Or how about the CT on 6/13/13 when FE had fte then.got the loot taken because 25 ppl was not a kill force a according to a GM, but then 2 weeks ago TMO was allowed to snipe FTE with 3 ppl in zone and have FE's loot destroyed after your FTE snipe attempt resulted in TMO wiping and FE/IB ultimately getting a clean engage afterwards. Man I could go on for days with instances of inconsistency falling in TMO's favor, or I could post fraps showing members of tmo exploiting who only got 3 day suspensions after sirken warned doing so would result in a permaban.
But prior to this TMO had gotten away with several instances of training, kiting, and exploiting, many of which are still saved on fraps. There is literally NO denying the scummy actions of your guild over the past several years. But I agree with you, things are inconsistent here. Your guild has gotten away with murder on p99 for years and now you are finally reaping what you've sewn. Man up and deal with the consequences of your guilds foul play over a long period of time. Most people think rogean's decision was fairly lenient, considering your guilds past offenses.
Atmas
12-21-2013, 01:12 AM
Page 55 Status Update
Still no apology from anyone in TMO.
So aside from the fact that 2 people did something and owe apologies to the rest of the guild as TMO was probably impacted more than anyone else by this, no apologies should be coming from people who did nothing.
kotton05
12-21-2013, 01:16 AM
They tried to paint us as the worst when all that I've ever done in the raid scene I learned from TMO doing it to my guilds. Karma is a bitch.
The past is gone I hope a group non of rmt'r take the reign and learn to not be frothing at the mouth over a batphone so they can eat.
IMO Zaguum could start his own guild
Tasslehofp99
12-21-2013, 01:16 AM
So aside from the fact that 2 people did something and owe apologies to the rest of the guild as TMO was probably impacted more than anyone else by this, no apologies should be coming from people who did nothing.
By being a part of such an inconsiderate and abusive guild who's actions have caused a major disturbance on the server many times, you are just as guilty as those actually committing the crimes. No TMO member can say they are unaware of their guild's foul actions as many people have provided proof of such unsavory behaviour in a number of different scenarios. This 2 week suspension is a very mild punishment for the amount of cheating/griefing TMO is responsible for.
Millburn
12-21-2013, 01:20 AM
So aside from the fact that 2 people did something and owe apologies to the rest of the guild as TMO was probably impacted more than anyone else by this, no apologies should be coming from people who did nothing.
That doesn't read like an apology, you should start from the beginning and try again.
kotton05
12-21-2013, 01:21 AM
They were just warm bodies drinking the juice tasslehof. Doing what they was told, being lied to, while I can't hold them in direct blame I do hold some underlying disgust towards a certain few for various reasons.
Tasslehofp99
12-21-2013, 01:22 AM
They tried to paint us as the worst when all that I've ever done in the raid scene I learned from TMO doing it to my guilds. Karma is a bitch.
The past is gone I hope a group non of rmt'r take the reign and learn to not be frothing at the mouth over a batphone so they can eat.
IMO Zaguum could start his own guild
I vote happyfeets, that dude is original gangsterr TMO from fennin unlike the rest of the posers.
If TMO members really cared about their guilds integrity unsavory characters like alarti, eccezan, tortue, tiggles, Jeremy, darkdeath, and any others who advocate the guild's past abuses of p99 community would have been kicked out a long time ago.
Atmas
12-21-2013, 01:23 AM
By being a part of such an inconsiderate and abusive guild who's actions have caused a major disturbance on the server many times, you are just as guilty as those actually committing the crimes. No TMO member can say they are unaware of their guild's foul actions as many people have provided proof of such unsavory behaviour in a number of different scenarios. This 2 week suspension is a very mild punishment for the amount of cheating/griefing TMO is responsible for.
If you were in any way serious you would quit this game right now. Like right this second. You have been in several guilds that's at this point have hours of fraps footage showing them training/kiting/and ninja looting. I've had members of your guild train me outside of VP while standing near raid targets. You raid with people who at points despite not being in an active guild on the server spent hours training TMO in VP. I can make statements like there are many people you associate with that are the cause of the EQMac server shutting down because of their exploiting.
Millburn
12-21-2013, 01:23 AM
If you were in any way serious you would quit this game right now. Like right this second. You have been in several guilds that's at this point have hours of fraps footage showing them training/kiting/and ninja looting. I've had members of your guild train me outside of VP while standing near raid targets. You raid with people who despite not being in an active guild on the server spent hours training TMO in VP. I can make statements like there are many people you associate with that are the cause of the EQMac server shutting down because of their exploiting.
This doesn't read like an apology either.
kotton05
12-21-2013, 01:24 AM
If you were in any way serious you would quit this game right now. Like right this second. You have been in several guilds that's at this point have hours of fraps footage showing them training/kiting/and ninja looting. I've had members of your guild train me outside of VP while standing near raid targets. You raid with people who at points despite not being in an active guild on the server spent hours training TMO in VP. I can make statements like there are many people you associate with that are the cause of the EQMac server shutting down because of their exploiting.
You are on some crazy kool aid rofl
kotton05
12-21-2013, 01:26 AM
Everything FE has done to TMO is like 30% of what TMO did to us.
R u serious Atmas>_<
Tasslehofp99
12-21-2013, 01:27 AM
If you were in any way serious you would quit this game right now. Like right this second. You have been in several guilds that's at this point have hours of fraps footage showing them training/kiting/and ninja looting. I've had members of your guild train me outside of VP while standing near raid targets. You raid with people who despite not being in an active guild on the server spent hours training TMO in VP. I can make statements like there are many people you associate with that are the cause of the EQMac server shutting down because of their exploiting.
The things you speak of are all the result of the raid scene being shit on by TMO my friend. Not that its any excuse but ANY other guild besides TMO has had no issue putting their difference ls aside to work together forthe better of the server. For example a month or so ago FEIBBDA all worked together on a sev kill and split loots fairly. You can't tell me TMO gas regularly let any other guild participate in their kills with any regularity or compensation, and staffs of undead legions off the occasional draco because you trained whatever guild was in fear first to get it doesn't count.
Be real, be honest.
Honestly, <Conquest> were douchebags at times but mostly left others alone, still they got the death penalty for exploiting a few dragons on live. TMO has gone far beyond that, over and over and over and over and over again. This no-name player advocates guilddeath and officer permaban, it's :classic:.
Lazie
12-21-2013, 01:30 AM
These grudges you guys are holding onto... Will get you nowhere on the future of this server. Reread Rogean's post. Change or have no toys to play with.
Lubian
12-21-2013, 01:31 AM
Your wish is my command.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZCAln8j1kMk
That was awesome <3.
http://i.imgur.com/PBzCkTi.png
sulpher01
12-21-2013, 01:33 AM
These grudges you guys are holding onto... Will get you nowhere on the future of this server. Reread Rogean's post. Change or have no toys to play with.
kotton05
12-21-2013, 01:34 AM
Everything's in the past , I'm just excited to see what can be done, all this has been speculated before, now lets see how it goes without the mystical hoarders.
<hi kaev!! You're not a no name>
sulpher01
12-21-2013, 01:34 AM
I think I'm just going to keep quoting that on all these threads for the next week. Seems like no one read rogeans post past the duping part.
Tasslehofp99
12-21-2013, 01:36 AM
These grudges you guys are holding onto... Will get you nowhere on the future of this server. Reread Rogean's post. Change or have no toys to play with.
All of the guilds have agreed on testing a new raid scene atmosphere while TMO is suspended. It was made clear when TMO returns the ball will likely be in their court. It will be up to them to decide to play nice or revert back to their old ways. Everyone else as far as guilds who raid is on board with this and similar ideas have been attempted in the past but failed. Lets hope this suspension and time off changes the minds of TMO leadership so that they decide to stop abusing the rest of the community.
Atmas
12-21-2013, 01:36 AM
Not that its any excuse
Sorry, but it sounds like you are just making excuses. You go on a long rant about how TMO has done this and that and should be punished but even though there is absolutely not shortage of video evidence of your associated guilds doing these exact actions you... you know what, just never mind. If you can hold a straight face and spew out the hypocrisy there isn't much that can be said.
I have never been against punishing people when they do something wrong. But punish the actual offenders.
Atmas
12-21-2013, 01:39 AM
This doesn't read like an apology either.
Do you deserve an apology from me? Or maybe Liia? That's someone who actually had an account banned.
Tasslehofp99
12-21-2013, 01:40 AM
I think I'm just going to keep quoting that on all these threads for the next week. Seems like no one read rogeans post past the duping part.
The thread is growing fast, try to keep up.
All of the guilds have agreed on testing a new raid scene atmosphere while TMO is suspended. It was made clear when TMO returns the ball will likely be in their court. It will be up to them to decide to play nice or revert back to their old ways. Everyone else as far as guilds who raid is on board with this and similar ideas have been attempted in the past but failed. Lets hope this suspension and time off changes the minds of TMO leadership so that they decide to stop abusing the rest of the community.
It seems as if only TMO has failed to realize this suspension has to do with more than just this latest incident involving "froovy and internode."
Enxienty
12-21-2013, 01:41 AM
Sorry, but it sounds like you are just making excuses. You go on a long rant about how TMO has done this and that and should be punished but even though there is absolutely not shortage of video evidence of your associated guilds doing these exact actions you... you know what, just never mind. If you can hold a straight face and spew out the hypocrisy there isn't much that can be said.
I have never been against punishing people when they do something wrong. But punish the actual offenders.
I think what the majority of the server is trying to say is that you guys at the end of the day got caught, and unfortunately even if it was really only 2 people, they logged onto 86 accounts from TMO. People have been banned in the past without forgiveness because of the previous owners actions.
Millburn
12-21-2013, 01:44 AM
Do you deserve an apology from me? Or maybe Liia? That's someone who actually had an account banned.
This also doesn't read as an apology.
Atmas
12-21-2013, 01:44 AM
It seems as if only TMO has failed to realize this suspension has to do with more than just this latest incident involving "froovy and internode."
I have no doubt about this. Just call it what it is.
Also I just had to say you needed to get off your high horse about guilty by association. I honestly don't consider you a dirty player, I think you have heavy bias and are a bit over the top, but not personally dirty. However, I can't say the same and actually can attest to the opposite for some of the people you affiliate with. However, I would never call for you to be banned or suspended for things you can't control.
pharmakos
12-21-2013, 01:46 AM
lets be honest -- this is Rogean doing TMO a favor by allowing them to spend some time with their families over Christmas.
Rellapse36
12-21-2013, 01:47 AM
I can make statements like there are many people you associate with that are the cause of the EQMac server shutting down because of their exploiting.
I love when Tmo makes shit up out of thin air. They have been doing it a lot lately with rules like the one where Lammy made up about stalling mobs with DA.
One person that had been on Eqmac from day 1 of the server the ex leader of the #1 guild was the main reason Eqmac got shut down. He found out hacks that enabled a lvl 1 toon to enter plane of time. It had nothing to do with anyone from P99.
We need Tmo disbanded Rogean these idiots are toxic to the server.
sulpher01
12-21-2013, 01:50 AM
The thread is growing fast, try to keep up.
Sorry I'll rephrase: I think I'm just going to keep quoting that on all these threads for the next week. Seems like TMO didn't read rogeans post past the duping part.
Eccezan
12-21-2013, 01:51 AM
Hey relapsee, but if TMO was disbanded what would your trailer trash, no life having ass post about 24/7??
Suicide watch indeed.
Autotune
12-21-2013, 01:51 AM
I can't watch that. Everytime he throws the pens onto the map I think of the one where it says to draw a fucking map of skyfire.
Lazie
12-21-2013, 01:52 AM
All of the guilds have agreed on testing a new raid scene atmosphere while TMO is suspended. It was made clear when TMO returns the ball will likely be in their court. It will be up to them to decide to play nice or revert back to their old ways. Everyone else as far as guilds who raid is on board with this and similar ideas have been attempted in the past but failed. Lets hope this suspension and time off changes the minds of TMO leadership so that they decide to stop abusing the rest of the community.
Oh I wasn't targeting that at anyone specifically. I just was making a general comment for people still bringing up the past.
Atmas
12-21-2013, 01:52 AM
Everything FE has done to TMO is like 30% of what TMO did to us.
R u serious Atmas>_<
I can say the same thing about people you raid with now. You want to talk about sipping the Kool aid? A lot of the people you raid with now are the ones who made bat-phoning the norm for high end raid content here.
TMO didn't create this raid scene, they aren't the only ones propagating it, they were just the most successful for the longest. In fact for a lot of that time it was because they were the first and only ones to show up.
Rellapse36
12-21-2013, 01:53 AM
Hey relapsee, but if TMO was disbanded what would your trailer trash, no life having ass post about 24/7??
Suicide watch indeed.
reported for racism
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZCAln8j1kMk
Mccezan mad
Millburn
12-21-2013, 01:54 AM
Hey relapsee, but if TMO was disbanded what would your trailer trash, no life having ass post about 24/7??
Suicide watch indeed.
This doesn't read like an apology, go ahead and start from the beginning.
Eccezan
12-21-2013, 01:54 AM
reported for racism
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZCAln8j1kMk
Mccezan mad
Oh so your race is "trailer trash"? Good to know flunkie.
Atmas
12-21-2013, 01:54 AM
We need Tmo disbanded Rogean these idiots are toxic to the server.
Rellapse36 nice handle.
You must sit back and laugh about how much hate TMO gets for an environment that you had such a hand in creating.
Troubled
12-21-2013, 01:56 AM
TMO didn't create this raid scene, they aren't the only ones propagating it, they were just the most successful for the longest. In fact for a lot of that time it was because they were the first and only ones to show up.
You certainly are the ones perpetuating it and making sure no one else has much fun once they decide it's time to kill some dragons. I don't think many people outside TMO sympathize with you. Argue all you want. You fly the flag of cockblocking to the detriment of the server and none of you give a fuck about anyone else. We also don't give a fuck about what you consider unfair treatment towards you. You definitely deserve it and I wouldn't mind never seeing any of you again. Guilty by association, and I'm not talking about the duping.
Eccezan
12-21-2013, 01:56 AM
Rellapse36 nice handle.
You must sit back and laugh about how much hate TMO gets for an environment that you had such a hand in creating.
Relapsee has never been part of a successful anything Atmas. He failed in everything he has ever attempted.
Millburn
12-21-2013, 01:57 AM
Relapsee has never been part of a successful anything Atmas. He failed in everything he has ever attempted.
This also doesn't read like an apology.
Page 59 Status Update
Still no apology from anyone in TMO
Rellapse36
12-21-2013, 01:57 AM
Oh so your race is "trailer trash"? Good to know flunkie.
I found your race
http://t1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTlGLv1ErYV0wBILX5PAVg9gRyrjqZn3 _4ijhI7NThs8a8DVesZlA
Eccezan
12-21-2013, 01:57 AM
You certainly are the ones perpetuating it and making sure no one else has much fun once they decide it's time to kill some dragons. I don't think many people outside TMO sympathize with you. Argue all you want. You fly the flag of cockblocking to the detriment of the server and none of you give a fuck about anyone else. We also don't give a fuck about what you consider unfair treatment towards you.
Sure sounds like Tyrany of the majority to me!
Emile
12-21-2013, 01:58 AM
lol
kotton05
12-21-2013, 01:58 AM
Ok Atmas I see you must have the last word, you're on the kool aid so ill let you pass trying to justify things out of thin air, lets just move forward and make it less of a cesspool and create some fun atmospheres for the casual crowd from time to time And not be idiots over fte sniping? I'm gonna miss training alot in VP I'm gonna hire Bier as a hit man to come train lol.
pharmakos
12-21-2013, 01:58 AM
Relapsee has never been part of a successful anything Atmas. He failed in everything he has ever attempted.
rellapse is just a simple man trying to find the truth, cut him a break eccebro.
Eccezan
12-21-2013, 01:59 AM
I found your race
http://t1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTlGLv1ErYV0wBILX5PAVg9gRyrjqZn3 _4ijhI7NThs8a8DVesZlA
U mad? Beans are a food, not a race chump.
Millburn
12-21-2013, 01:59 AM
U mad? Beans are a food, not a race chump.
This also is not an apology, I'm beginning to think you don't know how to write one proper.
Rellapse36
12-21-2013, 02:00 AM
http://www.collectingcandy.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2012/07/CC_Canada-Cadbury-Sour-Beaner-candy-bar-wrapper-1990s.jpg
kotton05
12-21-2013, 02:01 AM
Relapse kills me, my god
Atmas
12-21-2013, 02:01 AM
none of you give a fuck about anyone else
That's a really bold statement. I've sent hours pwrlvling, helping with transfers, rezzing, and giving items to people I didn't know. Yet somehow I don't give a fuck about anybody? Blind hatred takes away credibility.
Rellapse36
12-21-2013, 02:02 AM
Relapse kills me, my god
sorry 96% rez inc
Eccezan
12-21-2013, 02:03 AM
Dont mind Relapsee, racism is engrained in him since all of the jobs that he is qualified for have been taken by mexicans.
Such bitter!
Troubled
12-21-2013, 02:03 AM
That's a really bold statement. I've sent hours pwrlvling, helping with transfers, rezzing, and giving items to people I didn't know. Yet somehow I don't give a fuck about anybody? Blind hatred takes away credibility.
Did you let anyone kill anything to relive their classic experience?
A ton of people from all guilds give away items to newbies and help them level. Woop.
Millburn
12-21-2013, 02:03 AM
Dont mind Relapsee, racism is engrained in him since all of the jobs that he is qualified for have been taken by mexicans.
Such bitter!
That's a really bold statement. I've sent hours pwrlvling, helping with transfers, rezzing, and giving items to people I didn't know. Yet somehow I don't give a fuck about anybody? Blind hatred takes away credibility.
Seriously, we have at least two of you guys here right now. You would think one of you can swallow your pride and provide an apology. Shit may not be genuine but it's a step in the right direction.
Sodapop
12-21-2013, 02:04 AM
Relapse woke the sleeper on eqmac.
sanforce
12-21-2013, 02:04 AM
Your wish is my command.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZCAln8j1kMk
Hahhhhhhhahh. Omg, I'm a TMO member, and I have to agree, you win today's forum quest by a long margin. I was laughing my ass off the entire time. Well played sir.
That being said, all of those expecting a formal TMO apology, get real. This was a tiny subset of our guild that cheated. TMO collectively had nothing to do with this. These assholes cheated, got caught, deservingly got perma-banned, and are dragging our guild name through the mud right now. The guild overall had nothing to do with this cheating. If others were part of it, they too would be logged, caught, and banned. Though formerly trusted members are gone, we are glad the cheaters got caught.
I'm wondering, why are y'all expecting a formal apology? The officers did not know what was going on. If they were part of the scheme, they would have been banned too. The GMs have clear logs of the events that transpired, which is why these two individuals got caught, banned, and immediately fessed up within our own forums. I wish they would post a formal apology on these forums for you all to circle jerk around, but that is probably not going to happen. The members had no part in this and no clue what was going on. If they did, they too would have been banned (and yes, I think perma-bans for these people was the perfect choice of action from the GMs).
When FE/IB clearly trained at trak last week and received a 5 day suspension, I never saw a single formal apology from the FE/IB leadership. They cried and said "oooohh no, TMO did it first, it was justified". It was a single member of the guild that stepped out of line, and the entire guild got punished.
Our entire guild is getting punished right now with a two week suspension, and numerous accounts being banned due to misplaced trust. This is all from the actions of two members, not the collective guild. Do we deserve a suspension? In my opinion, probably. But I know the majority of you agree that the answer is: Hell yea!
You are probably right. The few that step out of line can hurt the entire guild, just like we see in training/raid interference incidents. But, please, give me a break. I'm not going to step up and apologize for Froovy being a cheater. That is his own prerogative, if he wants to go there.
The guild is not in the wrong, but we have been punished for the actions of our members accordingly. Give it a rest on the request for an apology.
pharmakos
12-21-2013, 02:05 AM
i'm gonna guess that Eccezan has nothing to personally apologize for.
i saw him farming hill giants one day, despite him being level 60. his plat was probably legitimate.
he is guilded with some douches though, for sure.
Eccezan
12-21-2013, 02:06 AM
Seriously, we have at least two of you guys here right now. You would think one of you can swallow your pride and provide an apology. Shit may not be genuine but it's a step in the right direction.
Millburn Trolling p99 forums for apology.
Troubled
12-21-2013, 02:06 AM
words
Again, completely ignoring the fact that the raid ban is because you are a cancer to the server. The duping bans were just a catalyst.
Rellapse36
12-21-2013, 02:07 AM
Eccezan would of had some of his accounts banned BUT all of Tmo hates him and has him on ignore so hard to share info when you cannot communicate.
He needs some try some of those sour beaners...fits his mood from having no Efriends
Millburn
12-21-2013, 02:07 AM
Hahhhhhhhahh. Omg, I'm a TMO member, and I have to agree, you win today's forum quest by a long margin. I was laughing my ass off the entire time. Well played sir.
That being said, all of those expecting a formal TMO apology, get real. This was a tiny subset of our guild that cheated. TMO collectively had nothing to do with this. These assholes cheated, got caught, deservingly got perma-banned, and are dragging our guild name through the mud right now. The guild overall had nothing to do with this cheating. If others were part of it, they too would be logged, caught, and banned. Though formerly trusted members are gone, we are glad the cheaters got caught.
I'm wondering, why are y'all expecting a formal apology? The officers did not know what was going on. If they were part of the scheme, they would have been banned too. The GMs have clear logs of the events that transpired, which is why these two individuals got caught, banned, and immediately fessed up within our own forums. I wish they would post a formal apology on these forums for you all to circle jerk around, but that is probably not going to happen. The members had no part in this and no clue what was going on. If they did, they too would have been banned (and yes, I think perma-bans for these people was the perfect choice of action from the GMs).
When FE/IB clearly trained at trak last week and received a 5 day suspension, I never saw a single formal apology from the FE/IB leadership. They cried and said "oooohh no, TMO did it first, it was justified". It was a single member of the guild that stepped out of line, and the entire guild got punished.
Our entire guild is getting punished right now with a two week suspension, and numerous accounts being banned due to misplaced trust. This is all from the actions of two members, not the collective guild. Do we deserve a suspension? In my opinion, probably. But I know the majority of you agree that the answer is: Hell yea!
You are probably right. The few that step out of line can hurt the entire guild, just like we see in training/raid interference incidents. But, please, give me a break. I'm not going to step up and apologize for Froovy being a cheater. That is his own prerogative, if he wants to go there.
The guild is not in the wrong, but we have been punished for the actions of our members accordingly. Give it a rest on the request for an apology.
There's always a caveat with you guys, if you're not going to get on your knees and beg forgiveness then shut up and ride the storm. It's not about the past and your predecessors, it's about what transpired in the present. Y'all were almost disbanded as a guild, shit is serious. Accept it, internalize it, and then start making amends with the server you all have shat on.
This is not just about exploits, re-read the whole post by Rogean. Time to start on a new path you guys.
cyryllis
12-21-2013, 02:09 AM
that doesnt read like an apology bro. Maybe you should start from the beginning.
trust me, my buddy is an expert on apologies and he tells me this isnt quite close.
I mean, I could take what you have, and accept it as a 1/4 apology, because lets face it...I have overhead - employees to pay, rent, advertising, utilities...
Tell ya what, if you act now, I can probably take it as a 1/3 apology and you can walk out with something at least.
Atmas
12-21-2013, 02:11 AM
Did you let anyone kill anything to relive their classic experience?
Did you play classic EQ? Do you know that most people didn't even get high 50s during Kunark, let alone epics? I'm not arguing that TMO kills most of the content, just saying that argument is meh.
A ton of people from all guilds give away items to newbies and help them level. Woop
I never said I was in an exclusive club. Was just pointing out gross exaggerations. Just labeling everyone as something because they are in a guild that mobilizes quickly for pixels seems a little far fetched.
Eccezan
12-21-2013, 02:12 AM
There's always a caveat with you guys, if you're not going to get on your knees and beg forgiveness then shut up and ride the storm. It's not about the past and your predecessors, it's about what transpired in the present. Y'all were almost disbanded as a guild, shit is serious. Accept it, internalize it, and then start making amends with the server you all have shat on.
This is not just about exploits, re-read the whole post by Rogean. Time to start on a new path you guys.
Oh high horse. Preach on, your history and expertise in the manner of all of this warrants that we all give a fuck!
I shall get right on that rereading...
Rellapse36
12-21-2013, 02:13 AM
Eccezan would of had some of his accounts banned BUT all of Tmo hates him and has him on ignore so hard to share info when you cannot communicate.
He needs some try some of those sour beaners...fits his mood from having no Efriends
Emile
12-21-2013, 02:14 AM
http://media.247sports.com/Uploads/Assets/382/766/766382.jpg
Eccezan
12-21-2013, 02:15 AM
Hey relapsee, pro tip, quoting yourself wont make people think your posts are worth a damn. Lol
Emile
12-21-2013, 02:15 AM
dammit rellapse
Millburn
12-21-2013, 02:15 AM
Oh high horse. Preach on, your history and expertise in the manner of all of this warrants that we all give a fuck!
I shall get right on that rereading...
I'll just take you at face value and assume you're writing your apology. I look forward to reading it.
Seriously though,
Page 62 Status Update
Still no apology
Daldolma
12-21-2013, 02:17 AM
Hahhhhhhhahh. Omg, I'm a TMO member, and I have to agree, you win today's forum quest by a long margin. I was laughing my ass off the entire time. Well played sir.
That being said, all of those expecting a formal TMO apology, get real. This was a tiny subset of our guild that cheated. TMO collectively had nothing to do with this. These assholes cheated, got caught, deservingly got perma-banned, and are dragging our guild name through the mud right now. The guild overall had nothing to do with this cheating. If others were part of it, they too would be logged, caught, and banned. Though formerly trusted members are gone, we are glad the cheaters got caught.
I'm wondering, why are y'all expecting a formal apology? The officers did not know what was going on. If they were part of the scheme, they would have been banned too. The GMs have clear logs of the events that transpired, which is why these two individuals got caught, banned, and immediately fessed up within our own forums. I wish they would post a formal apology on these forums for you all to circle jerk around, but that is probably not going to happen. The members had no part in this and no clue what was going on. If they did, they too would have been banned (and yes, I think perma-bans for these people was the perfect choice of action from the GMs).
When FE/IB clearly trained at trak last week and received a 5 day suspension, I never saw a single formal apology from the FE/IB leadership. They cried and said "oooohh no, TMO did it first, it was justified". It was a single member of the guild that stepped out of line, and the entire guild got punished.
Our entire guild is getting punished right now with a two week suspension, and numerous accounts being banned due to misplaced trust. This is all from the actions of two members, not the collective guild. Do we deserve a suspension? In my opinion, probably. But I know the majority of you agree that the answer is: Hell yea!
You are probably right. The few that step out of line can hurt the entire guild, just like we see in training/raid interference incidents. But, please, give me a break. I'm not going to step up and apologize for Froovy being a cheater. That is his own prerogative, if he wants to go there.
The guild is not in the wrong, but we have been punished for the actions of our members accordingly. Give it a rest on the request for an apology.
The fact that only two people were actually doing the duping doesn't mean that only two people knew about it / benefitted from it. Your entire guild has constructed a narrative that is as innocuous as possible given the facts. The facts are that two of your oldest, most active members were found to be systematically exploiting, and 86 accounts were linked to the cheating parties.
Whether other people knew or were involved is purely speculation with no factual underpinning. Whether the owners of some or all of those 86 accounts knew or were involved is pure guesswork. There was no reason to perform the dupe on more than one or two accounts. That doesn't make every other account clean.
This is why everyone is coming down on TMO. Because you're trying to spin this bullshit tale about how 84/86 accounts were innocent, and the habitual cheating was totally isolated to two members, who happened to be some of the most trusted and respected in your entire guild. You don't know that for a fact, so stop saying it. You have no idea. You trusted Froovy and Internode, and now you're willfully admitting they were cheaters. The fact that you trust the rest of your members and officers when they assure you they didn't know means nothing.
TMO is contaminated. Purge the linked accounts.
Rellapse36
12-21-2013, 02:17 AM
Just wanted you to respond in a sour beaner sort of way
mission accomplished, thanks
Troubled
12-21-2013, 02:18 AM
Did you play classic EQ? Do you know that most people didn't even get high 50s during Kunark, let alone epics? I'm not arguing that TMO kills most of the content, just saying that argument is meh.
Yep I did play and it wasn't nearly as terrible. I was also on Innoruuk server where people weren't complete assholes all the time. You had the top couple guilds competing for firsts and then farm status; after that it was rotations which has been proven in some previous thread here. Was in one of the top 3? or 4? guilds at the time and a reasonable amount of us had epics of every class, even ones that are cockblocked super hardcore here. It wasn't nearly this bad on live.
I never said I was in an exclusive club. Was just pointing out gross exaggerations. Just labeling everyone as something because they are in a guild that mobilizes quickly for pixels seems a little far fetched.
Nope it's completely within the scope to label you all the same. If you all weren't there doing the same thing, TMO wouldn't be a dark cloud shitting all over the server every day. Be as nice as you want to anyone you want outside the raid scene. As you can see, it doesn't make a difference when what you're really about is portrayed as you shit all over everyone else for pixels, or more for denying pixels and fun to others.
Daldolma
12-21-2013, 02:20 AM
Hey relapsee, pro tip, quoting yourself wont make people think your posts are worth a damn. Lol
do pro tips come with free eq necklaces or is there a premium fee for those
Eccezan
12-21-2013, 02:21 AM
do pro tips come with free eq necklaces or is there a premium fee for those
You gotta pay $85 for the eq necklace. The pro tips are free.
do pro tips come with free eq necklaces or is there a premium fee for those
250 station cash
sanforce
12-21-2013, 02:22 AM
Again, completely ignoring the fact that the raid ban is because you are a cancer to the server. The duping bans were just a catalyst.
Sure, you can believe that we are a cancer to the server. In reality, you and yours just suck at pursuing content. We put time and effort into getting raid mobs, and it works! Most of the guilds on this server just cry and cry, but I never actually see them make a raid attempt. Do you just instinctively know that TMO/FE/IB are going to stomp you into the ground every single time, so it's not worth it? I'd probably cry too if I were in your position, or maybe try, juuuuust maybe, try to get better. The engages are completely fair, y'all just can't hack it. Have fun with your 2 week quasi rotations. In my opinion, this is just a ploy by FE/IB to split raid mobs 50/50 with TMO when the suspension is lifted. They can't do it under legitimate competition, so they convince the rest of the community that a 2 hour delay for the last guild that gets the mob is a super cool idea, everyone is going to share in the content. No, 2 guilds will end up splitting the mobs 50/50, because everyone else isn't capable. And the major benefactor from these new "raid rules" is IB/FE - they can't consistently compete with TMO in a head to head match up, so now they have helped introduce rules that will almost guarantee them half of the mobs if the rules stick around.
Millburn
12-21-2013, 02:22 AM
You gotta pay $85 for the eq necklace. The pro tips are free.
That RMT needs to come from somewhere now that that other shit is gone.
Still doesn't read like an apology though, try again.
Rellapse36
12-21-2013, 02:23 AM
Please do not test the Eq Necklace weight limit. Remember it is just a game and it is almost Christmas time.
www.suicidepreventionlifeline.org if things gets to hard for you to bare
Do not do it Mccezan
Eccezan
12-21-2013, 02:23 AM
Sure, you can believe that we are a cancer to the server. In reality, you and yours just suck at pursuing content. We put time and effort into getting raid mobs, and it works! Most of the guilds on this server just cry and cry, but I never actually see them make a raid attempt. Do you just instinctively know that TMO/FE/IB are going to stomp you into the ground every single time, so it's not worth it? I'd probably cry too if I were in your position, or maybe try, juuuuust maybe, try to get better. The engages are completely fair, y'all just can't hack it. Have fun with your 2 week quasi rotations. In my opinion, this is just a ploy by FE/IB to split raid mobs 50/50 with TMO when the suspension is lifted. They can't do it under legitimate competition, so they convince the rest of the community that a 2 hour delay for the last guild that gets the mob is a super cool idea, everyone is going to share in the content. No, 2 guilds will end up splitting the mobs 50/50, because everyone else isn't capable. And the major benefactor from these new "raid rules" is IB/FE - they can't compete with TMO in a head to head match up, so now they have helped introduce rules that will almost guarantee them half of the mobs if the rules stick around.
But poopsocking VS 7 days a week was working great!
Atmas
12-21-2013, 02:24 AM
There's always a caveat with you guys, if you're not going to get on your knees and beg forgiveness then shut up and ride the storm. It's not about the past and your predecessors, it's about what transpired in the present. Y'all were almost disbanded as a guild, shit is serious. Accept it, internalize it, and then start making amends with the server you all have shat on.
This is not just about exploits, re-read the whole post by Rogean. Time to start on a new path you guys.
I'm glad you actually made a post with some content.
Yes TMO is getting put on the cross for killing lots of mobs, and for the hardcore practices of campouts etc. that have been present for years. But does no one acknowledge the fact that the end game here is lke 5x more populated than it was on most live servers? By the time the game got as top heavy as this server is they had added instancing.
Shat on? Pffft. TMO as a guild at this point has invested more time in this server than any other guild and I hate to break it to you but that is by far and large legit time. The actions of a few people don't change that.
Troubled
12-21-2013, 02:24 AM
Sure, you can believe that we are a cancer to the server. In reality, you and yours just suck at pursuing content. We put time and effort into getting raid mobs, and it works! Most of the guilds on this server just cry and cry, but I never actually see them make a raid attempt. Do you just instinctively know that TMO/FE/IB are going to stomp you into the ground every single time, so it's not worth it? I'd probably cry too if I were in your position, or maybe try, juuuuust maybe, try to get better. The engages are completely fair, y'all just hack it. Have fun with your 2 week quasi rotations. In my opinion, this is just a ploy by FE/IB to split raid mobs 50/50 with TMO when the suspension is lifted. They can't do it under legitimate competition, so they convince the rest of the community that a 2 hour delay for the last guild that gets the mob is a super cool idea, everyone is going to share in the content. No, 2 guilds will end up splitting the mobs 50/50, because everyone else isn't capable. And the major benefactor from these new "raid rules" is IB/FE - they can't compete with TMO in a head to head match up, so now they have helped introduce rules that will almost guarantee them half of the mobs if the rules stick around.
Most people that comprise most of these guilds are completely capable. You're still living in 2000 where some of this shit was difficult. You really do think that you're better at something. No. You're just assholes and you need to chill out. I hope velious gets released with empty maps, because of you and yours. Then you'll know what it's like to be outnerded. Probably pretty much exactly how it feels to be a normal person outside of TMO during RoK.
People on live didn't come into fear and shit all over another raid force to take CT and train the entire zone. FiF won there and people would clear the zone as usual and then attempt CT. Just one example.
Eccezan
12-21-2013, 02:26 AM
Most people that comprise most of these guilds are completely capable. You're still living in 2000 where some of this shit was difficult. You really do think that you're better at something. No. You're just assholes and you need to chill out. I hope velious gets released with empty maps, because of you and yours. Then you'll know what it's like to be outnerded.
"i hope velious gets released without maps"
Perun's Cartography Service set for a huge comeback.
Atmas
12-21-2013, 02:27 AM
No. You're just assholes and you need to chill out.
Maybe take your own advice? You are raging pretty hard and taking this game very seriously.
dwightgeary
12-21-2013, 02:28 AM
"i hope velious gets released without maps"
Perun's Cartography Service set for a huge comeback.
lol you gonna pull that weak card out ecc? your playing go fish and you just that dudes 2's
Eccezan
12-21-2013, 02:28 AM
Most people that comprise most of these guilds are completely capable. You're still living in 2000 where some of this shit was difficult. You really do think that you're better at something. No. You're just assholes and you need to chill out. I hope velious gets released with empty maps, because of you and yours. Then you'll know what it's like to be outnerded. Probably pretty much exactly how it feels to be a normal person outside of TMO during RoK.
People on live didn't come into fear and shit all over another raid force to take CT and train the entire zone. FiF won there and people would clear the zone as usual and then attempt CT. Just one example.
Were you always this whiney or did this affliction hit you after you joined BDA ?
sanforce
12-21-2013, 02:28 AM
Most people that comprise most of these guilds are completely capable. You're still living in 2000 where some of this shit was difficult. You really do think that you're better at something. No. You're just assholes and you need to chill out. I hope velious gets released with empty maps, because of you and yours. Then you'll know what it's like to be outnerded.
People on live didn't come into fear and shit all over another raid force to take CT and train the entire zone. FiF won there and people would clear the zone as usual and then attempt CT. Just one example.
No, you're wrong. None of this content is difficult for any guild on this server. I bet 20+ guilds could down the content. What they can't do it track the mobs, keep a consistent raid window calendar, place characters where they should be, and get the mobs. I bet some of these raid mobs could be taken with 1 to 2 groups, that's not the point. First come first serve is what you can't compete with.
Troubled
12-21-2013, 02:29 AM
Maybe take your own advice? You are raging pretty hard and taking this game very seriously.
I'm just a few posts deep and you think I'm raging. You should be more worried about your guild's PR than how I feel bro.
Pheer
12-21-2013, 02:30 AM
eccezan meltdown #2 imminent
Rellapse36
12-21-2013, 02:32 AM
It is amazing Zeelot lets this dude continue to make his guild look retarded. IT is even more amazing Xasten stays guilded with these people.
cyryllis
12-21-2013, 02:32 AM
keep it up, i have duped manastones on the line...we must surpass the free AoN thread for serious
Millburn
12-21-2013, 02:32 AM
eccezan meltdown #2 imminent
Is that step two of the whole grief chart thing? How many meltdowns do we have to endure before he writes an actual apology?
Troubled
12-21-2013, 02:33 AM
No, you're wrong. None of this content is difficult for any guild on this server. I bet 20+ guilds could down the content. What they can't do it track the mobs, keep a consistent raid window calendar, place characters where they should be, and get the mobs. I bet some of these raid mobs could be taken with 1 to 2 groups, that's not the point. First come first serve is what you can't compete with.
It continues to be an aggravating realization among CSR staff that 10% of the server population causes 90% of the problems. We are all for competition, but it needs to be fair competition. We are also all here for the same thing, to experience classic Everquest. The same guild monopolizing raid content for 2 years that they might not even need anymore is ridiculous, just to block other guilds from the chance of gearing up to take on the same end game content.
I was thinking to myself the other day and I came to ask myself.. Are we providing this server to give people the arena to compete to such bitter extremes that it has resorted to taking every absolute measure to be victorious, or are we here to provide a classic Everquest experience for everyone to enjoy?
All that really ever needed to be said. Sorry for being long winded.
Atmas
12-21-2013, 02:35 AM
I'm just a few posts deep and you think I'm raging. You should be more worried about your guild's PR than how I feel bro.
Why a guild tag is an aspect of a game? It's funny some people who have been in the guild 3 days are talking about how they have personally been told they are exploiters.
I think it's more concerning to see people get so worked up outside of the game.
Eccezan
12-21-2013, 02:35 AM
It is amazing Zeelot lets this dude continue to make his guild look retarded. IT is even more amazing Xasten stays guilded with these people.
Its amazing a talentless, unskilled nobody like yourself can afford shelter and internet service to troll people all day. Obama's plan ensures trailer trash like Relapsee are kept well fed on mcdonalds to be able to troll away the best years of his life on this eq board which he doesnt even play!
Rellapse36
12-21-2013, 02:36 AM
Its amazing a talentless, unskilled nobody like yourself can afford shelter and internet service to troll people all day.
washing lettuce all day has you mad as hell
Millburn
12-21-2013, 02:36 AM
Its amazing a talentless, unskilled nobody like yourself can afford shelter and internet service to troll people all day.
That definitely isn't an apology. Hell if I didn't know any better I would think you're not even trying.
fa·nat·ic
noun: fanatic; plural noun: fanatics
1.
a person filled with excessive and single-minded zeal, esp. for an extreme religious or political cause.
synonyms: zealot, extremist, militant, dogmatist, devotee, adherent;
guild should reform as The Mystical Jihad
sanforce
12-21-2013, 02:38 AM
All that really ever needed to be said. Sorry for being long winded.
I know and agree that a lot of this content is probably not needed by TMO. But "need" is relative. Does TMO need bladestoppers? yes. Does TMO need res sticks? Yes. Does TMO need Puppet Strings? Yes. etc etc etc. What do we not need? Probably Sev/Tal/Gore. I could see those going on some sort of quasi rotation. Compete for 1 spawn, signs ups for the 2nd. Something along those lines would work.
As it stands, other guilds try to step up and compete, and are quite successful at it. This competition drives TMO to compete, because it is what the server and guild were built on.
Kunark is old, yes some content can be shared because it is not needed. This is never brought up by the GMs - so TMO continues to operate under the true competition spirit.
Troubled
12-21-2013, 02:39 AM
Were you always this whiney or did this affliction hit you after you joined BDA ?
I've been in BDA since lvl 23 so blame Chest.
Eccezan
12-21-2013, 02:40 AM
washing lettuce all day has you mad as hell
Grooming that mullett while walking around the junkyard barefoot must make you salty on the daily.
so TMO continues to operate under the true competition spirit.
http://i41.tinypic.com/r94zk5.jpg
Millburn
12-21-2013, 02:43 AM
Page 65 Status Update
Still no apology from anyone in TMO
Eccezan
12-21-2013, 02:43 AM
http://i41.tinypic.com/r94zk5.jpg
TMO has enabled more members of this server to get gear than all of the other guilds on the server combined. We are a Norrathian treasure to behold and cherish.
I am awaiting all of your apologies.
Troubled
12-21-2013, 02:45 AM
I know and agree that a lot of this content is probably not needed by TMO. But "need" is relative. Does TMO need bladestoppers? yes. Does TMO need res sticks? Yes. Does TMO need Puppet Strings? Yes. etc etc etc. What do we not need? Probably Sev/Tal/Gore. I could see those going on some sort of quasi rotation. Compete for 1 spawn, signs ups for the 2nd. Something along those lines would work.
As it stands, other guilds try to step up and compete, and are quite successful at it. This competition drives TMO to compete, because it is what the server and guild were built on.
Kunark is old, yes some content can be shared because it is not needed. This is never brought up by the GMs - so TMO continues to operate under the true competition spirit.
I don't dislike hearing this. I assume you are TMO because that's where all your posts point. I'd encourage you to help everyone else you are associated with see this as well. Some kind of communication between TMO and the rest of the server needs to open up or I can see Rogean and co. getting fed up with the community and shutting down the project.
It doesn't look like they(the GMs) are going to step in and say "look, this is how it's gonna be." More like, "look, you guys have driven us to say fuck it." Don't take the GMs hands off approach as approval to continue to act how you like. Take the initiative to work with people not so much unlike yourselves who want to experience content and gear up. Every 2nd and 3rd spawn being uncontested by you for most targets isn't unreasonable. You still get most of your pixels vs the rest of the server and we all get a bone too.
talian21
12-21-2013, 02:46 AM
Kunark is old, yes some content can be shared because it is not needed. This is never brought up by the GMs - so TMO continues to operate under the true competition spirit.
I think you are confusing Monopoly with Competition, or at least trying to...
-Silisk, ikky necro
sanforce
12-21-2013, 02:46 AM
http://i41.tinypic.com/r94zk5.jpg
Yes Tann, believe it or not, but this server was originally created with a classic mindset. Guilds originally stepped up to kill the content and then got knocked off by other more capable guilds. This process repeated itself a few times until TMO finally stepped up, and is apparently so good at this original classic experience that things had to change. This is obviously changing now because nobody can dethrone TMO. If FE was dominate right now, this discussion would probably not be had. The normal progression of one guild taking over would be continuing. But, they couldn't do it. So omg, lets change the rules, TMO op.
sanforce
12-21-2013, 02:52 AM
Page 65 Status Update
Still no apology from anyone in TMO
Lemme help
Hahhhhhhhahh. Omg, I'm a TMO member, and I have to agree, you win today's forum quest by a long margin. I was laughing my ass off the entire time. Well played sir.
That being said, all of those expecting a formal TMO apology, get real. This was a tiny subset of our guild that cheated. TMO collectively had nothing to do with this. These assholes cheated, got caught, deservingly got perma-banned, and are dragging our guild name through the mud right now. The guild overall had nothing to do with this cheating. If others were part of it, they too would be logged, caught, and banned. Though formerly trusted members are gone, we are glad the cheaters got caught.
I'm wondering, why are y'all expecting a formal apology? The officers did not know what was going on. If they were part of the scheme, they would have been banned too. The GMs have clear logs of the events that transpired, which is why these two individuals got caught, banned, and immediately fessed up within our own forums. I wish they would post a formal apology on these forums for you all to circle jerk around, but that is probably not going to happen. The members had no part in this and no clue what was going on. If they did, they too would have been banned (and yes, I think perma-bans for these people was the perfect choice of action from the GMs).
When FE/IB clearly trained at trak last week and received a 5 day suspension, I never saw a single formal apology from the FE/IB leadership. They cried and said "oooohh no, TMO did it first, it was justified". It was a single member of the guild that stepped out of line, and the entire guild got punished.
Our entire guild is getting punished right now with a two week suspension, and numerous accounts being banned due to misplaced trust. This is all from the actions of two members, not the collective guild. Do we deserve a suspension? In my opinion, probably. But I know the majority of you agree that the answer is: Hell yea!
You are probably right. The few that step out of line can hurt the entire guild, just like we see in training/raid interference incidents. But, please, give me a break. I'm not going to step up and apologize for Froovy being a cheater. That is his own prerogative, if he wants to go there.
The guild is not in the wrong, but we have been punished for the actions of our members accordingly. Give it a rest on the request for an apology.
Yes Tann, believe it or not, but this server was originally created with a classic mindset. Guilds originally stepped up to kill the content and then got knocked off by other more capable guilds. This process repeated itself a few times until TMO finally stepped up, and is apparently so good at this original classic experience that things had to change. This is obviously changing now because nobody can dethrone TMO. If FE was dominate right now, this discussion would probably not be had. The normal progression of one guild taking over would be continuing. But, they couldn't do it. So omg, lets change the rules, TMO op.
Such hubris, you guys all get together shirtless and slightly oiled chanting to the thunder gods to bless your fingertips pre-raid?
hynch
12-21-2013, 02:54 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZCAln8j1kMk
Posting it again because TMO just disbanded.
Yinikren
12-21-2013, 02:54 AM
You guys won't get an apology from TMO, because TMO no longer exists.
Hopefully the characters are tagged so they can't ever join another guild.
Tasslehofp99
12-21-2013, 02:58 AM
TMO has enabled more members of this server to get gear than all of the other guilds on the server combined. We are a Norrathian treasure to behold and cherish.
I am awaiting all of your apologies.
Almost sig worthy.
Seriously though this strange attitude you and other guildies display in this thread and others from the past is the main reason this whole server hates your guild.
You know I'm suprised more accounts should be banned. Remember that time aiaus/desmo were exploiting their ip exemptions to train guilds/avoid death? They were given a 3 day slap on the wrist despite all precedence pointinh towards a more serious punishment. These are just 2 examples of TMO getting away with shit while abusing the other players on p99.
Your guild's collective actions over the past 2 or so years has brought all this negativity back upon you full circle. Karma is a bitch, I guess.
sanforce
12-21-2013, 02:59 AM
Oh god, you guys brought this on yourself. Get ready for pickup raids to pwn you.
Tasslehofp99
12-21-2013, 03:01 AM
Oh god, you guys brought this on yourself. Get ready for pickup raids to pwn you.
Official ruling from sirken was that all former/current TMO members are suspended from raiding for 2 weeks. Pickup raids or not, enjoy your 2 weeks off.
Pheer
12-21-2013, 03:03 AM
We need a Tiggles stream interview with eccezan and alarti about what they plan to do now with no guildtag and some of the worst reputations on the server
Yinikren
12-21-2013, 03:05 AM
I hear sky does open raids somedays.
stonez138
12-21-2013, 03:13 AM
After three years I feal inspired to make a sig.
wipe the server for velious!!!
Boxxing a mule in EC is getting out of hand too. Level a character in EC and you can easily spot people who sit there for 8+hours a day.
talian21
12-21-2013, 04:31 AM
looks like a buncha TMO is moving over to Doljino-whatever... stay tuned lol
sanforce
12-21-2013, 04:55 AM
Official ruling from sirken was that all former/current TMO members are suspended from raiding for 2 weeks. Pickup raids or not, enjoy your 2 weeks off.
Merkk better avoid raiding, being ex TMO and all
Tasslehofp99
12-21-2013, 05:02 AM
Its pretty clear that I meant anyone who was a member of TMO when the suspension was handed down is still technically suspended regardless of what guild tag they got tonight.
I don't care what you do to be honest, would be more funny if you idiots got yourselves banned for ignoring rogean's raid suspension.
Wudan
12-21-2013, 05:04 AM
Ok by your post I shouldn't be guilty. My toons aren't banned, no one logged on to my account, and yet still raid suspended. Also these comparisons are big stretches, but I guess its tough to equate some of these things to real life.
Further, there were no rumors aside from the random people always tinfoil hatting TMO. These same people claim that TMO gets GM favoritism so no point in putting stock in that at all. Anyway, do you really think people would dupe stuff and be openly telling anyone about it? I mean its an MMO with people playing across the globe, you think everyone is aware of what everyone else does 24 hours a day? There is a lot of logic stretching for people to try to justify punishment of a lot of innocent people for the stupidity of a few.
What a little cockroach you are... YOU have not been raid suspended, TMO has been. You cry like a fucking baby that it effects you eventhough you have not done anything (lie). So you accept all the benefits from your guild knowing they have cheated many times, knowing they cockblock tne raid scene, but now when they get raid suspended you cry YOU got suspende. Take a fucking responsibility for hangingout with the shitbag party you fucking oportunist cunt. Your logic just makes my blood boil.
Tasslehofp99
12-21-2013, 05:09 AM
Word as old.Benjamin Franklin once said "those who lie down with dogs rise with fleas" or some shit like that.
Many members of the p99 community have been warning you and others about TMO for well over 2 years. You chose to ignore all the facts being circulated on the forums/in game regarding your guild. Whether or not you feel this is fair, there was plenty of evidence of your guild cheating/griefing. You decided to stay tagged with them, this is the consequence.
thugcruncher
12-21-2013, 05:17 AM
http://i.imgur.com/KqxO6g7.jpg
Perma ban the cheaters but this witch hunt is terrible
Eccezan
12-21-2013, 07:00 AM
Zeelot you are a fucking piece of shit dude. Shut the fuck up, you stupid motherfucker.
You cheat and coordinate mass cheating on an emulator server of a 14 year old game. Go do something with your life. You are also responsible for people like Eccezan who would never leave his computer chair if it was up to him. This dudes gonna fat/sad/bad himself death. Thats your responsibility Zeelot only you can save this guys life
This is the kind of trash accusing legitimate, upstanding, non cheating folks in TMO of baseless bullshit. Theres a lot of non critical thinking brain washed fools on these forums, and susvain and relapsee are prime examples.
jaybone
12-21-2013, 07:01 AM
This is the kind of trash accusing legitimate, upstanding, non cheating folks in TMO of baseless bullshit. Theres a lot of non critical thinking brain washed fools on these forums, and susvain and relapsee are prime examples.
i think hes pretty spot on.
Tasslehofp99
12-21-2013, 07:45 AM
Perma ban the cheaters but this witch hunt is terrible
Witch hunt? TMO has harbored cheaters and supported them in getting away with it. Obviously not everyone in TMO cheats but anyone with integrity would have left TMO a long time ago. The people left are those who turned a blind eye to cheating, or were used by TMOs cheating players to further their own gain. Again, TMO brought this upon themselves with their attitude /abuse of the community. I have personally warned people against joining TMO and what type of people make up the inner circle of the guild.
I don't think anyone should feel bad/sorry for anyone who willingly associated themselves with TMO in the last 2 years. Why? because they likely knew of TMO's treatment of.the server but joined anyway because their pixel lust got the better of them. Shit I been saying tMO was trash since 2011, and a lot of people ridiculed me/called me crazy. Look who was right all along, because anyone with a mediocre ability to judge character can tell in an instant the type of folks controlling TMO.
goshozal
12-21-2013, 07:50 AM
It's easy to tell what type you are, Tassle, in just as short a timeframe.
toosweet
12-21-2013, 07:51 AM
TMO is Clearly the victim here...
Eccezan
12-21-2013, 07:54 AM
It is clear that 95% of the server DOESN"T BELIEVE YOU about so and so being innocent. this widespread cheating/exploiting/duping etc is obviously comming from some of those in charge. maybe Zeelot did not start this latest crime circle. But we all know someone with clout in your petri dish of a guild most certainly did.
you know mobs have 32khp right? trust me your guild will be able to use its zerg tactics and kill the mobs still. Eccezan i promise you that you your guild can still clear VP and Trakanon without the cheating etc. i promise bro
The truth is what it is regardless what the majority of the people on this forum think. Because of 2 people duping many months or years ago an entire guild of innocent people were thrown under the rug with an unjust campaign to purposefuly discredit our name and to blemish what we have accomplished on this server. No number of retards posting on this forum will change that, whether you narrow mind comprehends or believes it.
Buriedpast
12-21-2013, 07:58 AM
.
Laugher
12-21-2013, 07:58 AM
Did TMO actually disband? Just did a /who all "the mystical order" & /who all mystical and got nothing, might just be that I'm up outrageously early though.
goshozal
12-21-2013, 07:59 AM
Yes, it did.
Rellapse36
12-21-2013, 08:03 AM
The truth is we are cheaters and deserve the punishment the staff gave us
fixed it 4u
heazels
12-21-2013, 08:03 AM
The truth is what it is regardless what the majority of the people on this forum think. Because of 2 people duping many months or years ago an entire guild of innocent people were thrown under the rug with an unjust campaign to purposefuly discredit our name and to blemish what we have accomplished on this server. No number of retards posting on this forum will change that, whether you narrow mind comprehends or believes it.
and bc of how you acted this is the only thing people will remember about your legacy (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZCAln8j1kMk)
You will never been fires of heaven or legacy of steel
Lazie
12-21-2013, 08:03 AM
The truth is what it is regardless what the majority of the people on this forum think. Because of 2 people duping many months or years ago an entire guild of innocent people were thrown under the rug with an unjust campaign to purposefuly discredit our name and to blemish what we have accomplished on this server. No number of retards posting on this forum will change that, whether you narrow mind comprehends or believes it.
Yeah because TMO's history wasn't already Blemished by people such as yourself acting like entitled teens to everyone in the game. I mean you guys had plenty of opportunities to be mature and treat guilds and people on the server with respect instead of attempting to hoard everything for yourselves. You simply chose not to. While choosing not to share this playground with other people you and a select group in your guild made sure you went out of your way to grief people. Congrats on those outstanding accomplishments! :rolleyes:
kotton05
12-21-2013, 08:05 AM
I think many we're guilty by association, as you said, but that duping is only alil bit of the issue, they threatened to take away raid mobs due to the actions of all top end raid guild in velious, if that's not a shock then I don't know what is.
I also was told by multiple guilds that members who have been MIA logged in today to hear about the opening of a non toxic raid scene we'll try to implement and we welcome all to help elaborate or coordinate the start of it.
As for the majority of TMO im sorry, you guys kinda got screwed and with that said I hope you guys don't stay disbanded and figure this out in a mature manner. Best of luck to BDA/DIV/TAKEN at mobs these two weeks. There has been a discussion about some sort of open VP raid but with extended variance not sure how many spawns we'll get=-/
Rellapse36
12-21-2013, 08:06 AM
Mccezan when Zeelot put a muzzle on you he meant all the forums and not just RnF. Had a talk with other members and they are tired of you making them look bad.
Tasslehofp99
12-21-2013, 08:06 AM
Yeah because TMO's history wasn't already Blemished by people such as yourself acting like entitled teens to everyone in the game. I mean you guys had plenty of opportunities to be mature and treat guilds and people on the server with respect instead of attempting to hoard everything for yourselves. You simply chose not to. While choosing not to share this playground with other people you and a select group in your guild made sure you went out of your way to grief people. Congrats on those outstanding accomplishments! :rolleyes:
Well said, apparently TMO members are under the impression that this one incident is the only thing the server hates their guild for.
heazels
12-21-2013, 08:09 AM
and bc of how you acted this is the only thing people will remember about your legacy (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZCAln8j1kMk)
You will never been fires of heaven or legacy of steel
10 years now...
remember TMO bro?....
was that guild in the hitler video?...
yeah, thats what i was gonna talk about lol...
rofl, great video (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZCAln8j1kMk)
Once upon a time there was a guild that waited at Fear entrance for someone else to break the entrance so they could run in and snipe the vermiculated+blighted.
And it went from there as such.
Eccezan
12-21-2013, 08:57 AM
The truth is Zeelot is a scumbag, piece of shit, and a joke. Eccezan is confirmed cheater and confirmed scumbag.
Cool story bro.
Wudan
12-21-2013, 09:12 AM
Cool story bro.
How does it feel being hated by everyone homie?
Eccezan
12-21-2013, 09:19 AM
How does it feel being hated by everyone homie?
I drink your milkshake?
heazels
12-21-2013, 09:28 AM
The ultimate challenge of eq - Get pixels and still have people care about you getting them.
Just FYI no one in real life cares about your pixels, not your friends, not family, not relatives..
The best you can have for anyone caring about your pixels comes from other people on this server caring about you having them. And that is where TMO has failed the ultimate challenge in EQ...
BC no one cares if all of your characters were deleted/banned forever...Its like when hitler died in WWII. It would be a celebration.
TMO sees us all as Jews, and they are just trying to build the wall higher so no one can get in the city.
The difference between TMO and most uberguilds on live is that people hated the uberguilds on live in more of a Jealous fashion. People hate TMO like Americans hated Nazis when WWII started.
Sure your engineering may be better, but that doesnt mean you should train the rest of the server and kill them
The reason this video is so hilarious, is the nazis have the exact same reputation that TMO does on this server. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZCAln8j1kMk)
The sad reality is that TMO will be remembered as nothing but a plague to the server, even though so much was accomplished
kphooper33
12-21-2013, 10:02 AM
LOL
kphooper33
12-21-2013, 10:03 AM
Oh no!!!!! They are going to disband AND shut their forums down? WHO CARES
heazels
12-21-2013, 10:14 AM
Oh no!!!!! They are going to disband AND shut their forums down? WHO CARES
Jesus cares...He loves you even if the server doesnt (http://www.jesus-is-savior.com/how_to_be_saved.html)
kphooper33
12-21-2013, 10:22 AM
My favorite is the indignation and the "just because we worked hard and have characters camped out at spawns, you are jealous" comments. Like these guys or any of the guilds with 100 alts 'worked' for the those characters. You know 75% of them were bought with plat.
Oh and yes, you don't know me, but this is a video game and I don't care how incredibly awesome you think you are =-)
hynch
12-21-2013, 10:26 AM
It must be like a culture shock for TMO to learn that it's not just the level 60 raiders that are overjoyed to see the guild disband. Practically the entire server is happy about this.
sedrie.bellamie
12-21-2013, 10:30 AM
dont fucking quote there will be blood. you dont deserve too, . you have the pussiest voice on top of everything else
everyone vote no, not needed on your app?
Lisset
12-21-2013, 10:34 AM
Wait wait wait! This is a disaster. Who will we buy our epics from?!?!
Wudan
12-21-2013, 10:55 AM
I drink your milkshake?
you must be a bitch if you respond with a question, bitches like to do that
Aaron
12-21-2013, 11:13 AM
So was Internode also Platlord? Is that confirmed?
Or was Platlord just collateral damage in all this?
So was Internode also Platlord? Is that confirmed?
Or was Platlord just collateral damage in all this?
Sirken stated platlord was taken down before the mas banning, but who knows
Wildino
12-21-2013, 11:23 AM
... TMO...
THANKS FOR EVERYTHING !
Should be fairly easy to find out whether Froovy or internode gave their duping money to the guild in anyway. If they did, I think the staff would of mentioned it.
Absent that, susvain's bs about how TMO materially benefited by Froovy and internodes duping for personal gain is disingenuous at best, the product of delusion more likely.
No matter. Keep repeating that narrative and it'll stick. It's what people clearly want to believe.
Dolic
heartbrand
12-21-2013, 11:37 AM
Now you all know what it's like to play on red99. P.s all TMO players who are done with blue over this fiasco hit me up via pm, I'll set you up with pixel packages and get you ready for velious on a server without variance. Brother Jeremy has been fighting the good fight there but we need moar serious gamers bros.
hatelore
12-21-2013, 11:57 AM
Weve joint raided 3 times with Azure Guard and Europa in the past week. Again, english, learn it.
weve is not English, vato loco.
lawl
Daldolma
12-21-2013, 11:58 AM
The sad reality is that TMO will be remembered as nothing but a plague to the server, even though so much was accomplished
IB will always be remembered as server best because they dominated the early raid scene and in early Kunark. TMO are the locusts that won the war of attrition and thoroughly ruined the endgame by parking 40 toons at every spawn point in Norrath.
Millburn
12-21-2013, 12:03 PM
weve is not English, vato loco.
lawl
We've however is english, chill out broseidon.
Also, Page 72 Status Update
Still no apology from anyone who was in TMO.
Tecmos Deception
12-21-2013, 12:10 PM
We've however is english, chill out broseidon.
Also, Page 72 Status Update
Still no apology from anyone who was in TMO.
Lol at 10 posts per page setting.
hatelore
12-21-2013, 12:14 PM
Last night I reached out to Zeelot to welcome him in talks on how make the raid scene a more enjoyable experience for not only FE/IB and TMO but other members of our community as well. The only thing restricting this gesture of goodwill is your narrow mindset of a stranglehold.
It's well within my position on this server to follow your footsteps and put every raid target on lockdown for the next two weeks, however I'd rather use these unfortunate circumstances that have befallen your guild to make something positive come about.
As part of TMO's leadership, you can use this time to consider how you'd like to move forward upon your return.
damn g, your head blew up since the days of grouping in seb. I guess pixels do that kinda shit to you huh?
Millburn
12-21-2013, 12:15 PM
Lol at 10 posts per page setting.
Makes it sound more outrageous this way, got that Fox News spin going on.
Makes it sound more outrageous this way, got that Fox News spin going on.
Rogean works for Rupert
kbnexus
12-21-2013, 12:23 PM
We've however is english, chill out broseidon.
Also, Page 72 Status Update
Still no apology from anyone who was in TMO.
You have posted this so many times. Please explain to me what you want TMO to apologize for?
Tasslehofp99
12-21-2013, 12:26 PM
You have posted this so many times. Please explain to me what you want TMO to apologize for?
For starters, your guild's collective treatment/attitude towards the rest of the server for the last 2 years. Then maybe we can start talking about all the cheating/exploiting your guild is responsible for. Where it goes from there, who knows!
JackFlash
12-21-2013, 12:28 PM
http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lvwjiyrcYz1r4gei2o1_400.gif
radditsu
12-21-2013, 12:41 PM
For starters, your guild's collective treatment/attitude towards the rest of the server for the last 2 years. Then maybe we can start talking about all the cheating/exploiting your guild is responsible for. Where it goes from there, who knows!
I would just rather you went away alarti.
We are getting to a new season of p99. We need new villians.
Atmas
12-21-2013, 02:09 PM
For starters, your guild's collective treatment/attitude towards the rest of the server for the last 2 years. Then maybe we can start talking about all the cheating/exploiting your guild is responsible for. Where it goes from there, who knows!
If anyone deserved an apology it wouldn't be you. TMO doesn't do anything that the a myriad of guilds including the ones you are/have been in do, just better.
The cheating/exploiting thing is laughable. Two people got caught cheating for their personal gain and a large portion of the guild is banned + a 2 week suspension. Do you really think that if TMO was frequently cheating/exploiting it wouldn't be suspended all the time?
It's been stated that Devs weren't particularly happy with the raid scene, but rules weren't being violated. In any case once again, Tasslehof, you are not the person to ask for an apology.
Tasslehofp99
12-21-2013, 02:13 PM
If anyone deserved an apology it wouldn't be you. TMO doesn't do anything that the a myriad of guilds including the ones you are/have been in do, just better.
The cheating/exploiting thing is laughable. Two people got caught cheating for their personal gain and a large portion of the guild is banned + a 2 week suspension. Do you really think that if TMO was frequently cheating/exploiting it wouldn't be suspended all the time?
It's been stated that Devs weren't particularly happy with the raid scene, but rules weren't being violated. In any case once again, Tasslehof, you are not the person to ask for an apology.
I didn't, that other guy did. I was simply stating what TMO should be apologizing for, incase it wasn't obvious to you guys. I couldn't care less if you apologized or not, the server already has seen TMO's true colors.
hatelore
12-21-2013, 02:20 PM
You know Atmas, to an extent I can agree with you. Maybe your whistle is completly clean and you don't owe anyone an apology.
But, the extent of douchebaggery TMO has shown this server, that can't be denied. Everything in life or in game always comes full circle, this not even you can deny. TMO, the more intelligent members, had to see this coming.
The good thing is, this proves that humans can go on a whichhunt for almost anything. But the which hunt on TMO is well desserved.
Good riddance. Lets see if the next top guild can show a little morality. And yes, no matter what you all think. There will be a new top guild. Whether its now or later.
talian21
12-21-2013, 02:21 PM
The sad reality is that TMO will be remembered as nothing but a plague to the server, even though so much was accomplished
bwahaha, like *what*....
talian21
12-21-2013, 02:29 PM
You have posted this so many times. Please explain to me what you want TMO to apologize for?
It's called a "running gag" bro, chill...
He knows he's not going to get an apology from TMO b/c well.. there is no more TMO /snicker
-Silisk, ikky necro
Vermithraxx
12-21-2013, 02:58 PM
the best part about this is you guys are justifying your actions over pixels, take your punishment. Quit being little bitches about it.
Swish
12-21-2013, 02:58 PM
This thread in a gif...
http://sprudge.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/11/simpsons-nerd.gif
thugcruncher
12-21-2013, 03:00 PM
http://i.imgur.com/6dWVmJ2.jpg
sedrie.bellamie
12-21-2013, 03:06 PM
For starters, your guild's collective treatment/attitude towards the rest of the server for the last 2 years.
variance was added to make competition harder. if you wanted free items then go to a different server. variance needs to be removed if there is no more competition on the server. if there is going to be any variance, there should be a global variance on all the mobs. Like if there was a roving repop that happened every week or two but the players would not know when it was. Maybe one week, repop is on a monday, maybe next on a friday. But with the current situation of some dragons not spawning for nine days at a time; only FE/IB/VD/TMO had the resources to field trackers 24/7 split over multiple locations. Sorry other guilds could not survive in that field; it was not classic at all. Variance is not classic; the competition variance encourages is not classic. Roaming repops with variance is one way to go that would be more classic.
pharmakos
12-21-2013, 03:07 PM
jesus christ
heazels
12-21-2013, 03:36 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Tvy_Pbe5NA
talian21
12-21-2013, 03:39 PM
I think perhaps it's time to close this thread; the only relevant topics related to this, at this point, are the 2 raid-rotations currently underway. At this point it's just feeding TMO... sorry, *ex*-TMO trolls, in my opinion...
-Silisk, ikky necro
Gwence
12-21-2013, 03:43 PM
Spin what?
I was here when IB was dominating the server and not sharing with anyone.
I dont know who you are but this post actually does have some merit
IB was in the position of domination for a long time, specifically at the beginnings of the server, and could have molded a more pleasant server in regards to raids.
If I could go back in time I would have worked to change that.
But knowing the past is the past and the only thing that can be done now is to change things going forward. Hopefully people can work together and use this as a proverbial blank slate.
at the end of the day it's a fucking game
heazels
12-21-2013, 03:44 PM
I think perhaps it's time to close this thread; the only relevant topics related to this, at this point, are the 2 raid-rotations currently underway. At this point it's just feeding TMO... sorry, *ex*-TMO trolls, in my opinion...
-Silisk, ikky necro
this post should be stickyd forever
Kevynne
12-22-2013, 02:39 AM
I love how meccezan defends hardcores in an unintelligible rant.
Xeldar
12-22-2013, 03:00 AM
You have posted this so many times. Please explain to me what you want TMO to apologize for?
We as player are all guests on Rogean's box. At least 86 accounts of your guild have decided to take a shit in Rogean's box, and all you ass cunts because your heads are so far up your own asses, are saying you didn't shit in the box and worse of all, we, the community are all out of line for saying your pixelated shit smells.
roks1
12-22-2013, 01:34 PM
This thread 0wns.
Alarti0001
12-22-2013, 01:37 PM
Apparently Rogean has proof, you stupid, lying, disingenuous loser piece of shit, or your guild of fellow sperglords wouldn't have been banned, would they? Guess you'll have to get your ass outside of the house for a change, champ.
HAHAH Can you read? He has proof that 2 people cheated and had access to others accounts. Not that people knew about it.
Thanks for proving you are an idiot.
HAHAH Can you read? He has proof that 2 people cheated and had access to others accounts. Not that people knew about it.
Thanks for proving you are an idiot.
I'm gonna go ahead and show this to you again since you've already started ignoring it.
We also discussed any actions to take against the guild as a whole, taking into consideration other recent events such as another guild member recently banned for heavy RMT inolvement, and an officer recently suspended for ninja looting.
It is based on that information that we are raid suspending the guild for 2 weeks. We brought up the possibility of completely disbanding The Mystical Order. Personally, I find it hard to believe that TMO leadership was not aware or suspicious of this happening, however we are only able to take action on the information we have.
No, he does not have proof. But yes, he does believe you are a cancer of the server.
http://img-cache.cdn.gaiaonline.com/0f9f8e20eb94100fb65352efd700ec9d/http://i267.photobucket.com/albums/ii306/Soulja_boy_tellem_z/Charlie-Sheen-Winning-Duh.jpg
Versus
12-22-2013, 01:48 PM
Sounds fantastic, right? If these sociopaths were serious about reforming their reputations, they would be hosting public raids. But then, how would they feel superior to other people?
Neither side will ever agree, but this is ludicrous. All I hear is, "give me free loot." People that were casual in Classic EQ did not reap the benefits that the more hardcore crowd did. I was a casual, I was terrible and satisfied. The only difference is expansions didnt stall for 3 years.
radditsu
12-22-2013, 01:51 PM
Neither side will ever agree, but this is ludicrous. All I hear is, "give me free loot."
You need to clean your fucking ears then. New rules. New way. We dont need you or your guild and they damn sure aren't dictating terms to others anymore.
Fuck off scumbags
All I hear is, "give me free loot."
This is not a dichotomy. There is a difference between wanting free loot, and not wanting to participate in what you white devils call "competition"; a raid environment so acrid, unfun, and cancerous to the server that it has been explicitly condemned by the staff.
You need to clean your fucking ears then. New rules. New way. We dont need you or your guild and they damn sure aren't dictating terms to others anymore.
Fuck off scumbags
Thats what you think' TMO controls server form beyond the grave.
You cant kill an idea
Yajirobe Yajipants
12-22-2013, 01:54 PM
All TMO should commit suicide.
radditsu
12-22-2013, 01:54 PM
All TMO should commit suicide.
Much <3 for ya yaji
radditsu
12-22-2013, 01:56 PM
Thats what you think' TMO controls server form beyond the grave.
You cant kill an idea
No buildings to blow up in a viking funeral tho.
Did zeelot train some prostitute to take his place?
roks1
12-22-2013, 02:01 PM
Recent Exploit
Recently, I found out via Rogean's inflammatory post that 2-3 TMO members who had access to a large number of TMO accounts used some sort of item dupe at some point in time on their own characters. Froovy and Internode are two that I have heard of so far (unfortunately members trusted them with access to many accounts, including one of my alt cleric accounts), I have not heard any other evidence implicating any other TMO members. Almost all banned accounts have nothing to do with any exploit. I am sure they will enjoy their no-eq christmas holidays thanks to Rogean's new hardline approach, banning unrelated parties.
In the past, we have dealt with things legitimately. We respect GMs and speak with you through the petition forums and proper channels. I am unsure why you are attacking TMO publicly rather than coming to the leadership and trying to get to the bottom of it. I would obviously assist you any way I can & remove any parties you informed me as cheaters. Banning 80+ unrelated parties seems like a personal vendetta more than anything. Especially when you do it while calling out the guild name, saying we were lucky to not been disbanded. TMO has been playing here since when the server pop was in the low 100s. We have been helping with promoting & classicizing the server for years; perhaps we have dominated the raid scene, but we have contributed as much as we can to bug reports and making this server the classic experience Nilbog envisions.
Real Money Trading
As far as I am aware, 1 ex-TMO named Crazyeyes the King of Thieves was caught for this recently. Totally caught us off guard, there's always been people who quit EQ and cash out, how can you hold a guild accountable for that - One individual member who bails.
Why were no other guilds who had RMTers in it called out to the server? Once again seems like a targeted attack.
Raid Scene
In the past, wizard epic first had been ninja looted off of CT by an officer of a rival guild and nothing was done except a personal suspension. A VP ninja loot of an exe blade off silverwing also occurred in the past with a 1 wk personal suspension. The public announcement of disciplinary action against TMO and the actions of our crazy french Canadian SK(Who has already been suspended for weeks for the infraction - & has a 2month suspension), should have no connection if you wish to be consistent.
If you wanted TMO to change our raid scene approach, you could have asked and we would have been open to any ideas. It seems more like you just want TMO to disband or be severely hurt. This has only been an issue since the return of the players who left for EQ mac. I hope we can resolve this and you will remove the post attacking TMO for a few individuals actions.
Thanks
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Alarti0001
12-22-2013, 02:06 PM
You need to clean your fucking ears then. New rules. New way. We dont need you or your guild and they damn sure aren't dictating terms to others anymore.
Fuck off scumbags
Haha...
Versus
12-22-2013, 02:09 PM
Way to misquote me. I was referring to the idea of hosting public raids. As much as you all claim to want to sit around a camp fire and sing kumbaya, regardless of who is on top, after most of this blows over, whoever is on top will stop playing nice and become fat on loot :)
Thinking otherwise is misguided.
radditsu
12-22-2013, 02:09 PM
Haha...
Who gave you your piece of shit name back? Go troll guild recruitment more.
Kagatob
12-22-2013, 02:10 PM
You need to clean your fucking ears then. New rules. New way. We dont need you or your guild and they damn sure aren't dictating terms to others anymore.
Fuck off scumbags
Alarti0001
12-22-2013, 02:22 PM
Who gave you your piece of shit name back? Go troll guild recruitment more.
You mad? HAHAHA
radditsu
12-22-2013, 02:25 PM
You mad? HAHAHA
Poor alarti. Is you mad all you have left?
Bones
12-22-2013, 02:25 PM
https://encrypted-tbn1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTrteOGSc9ZEC2xLw42lx9OqVJPTf4lO 4H5Ua5CBq-5HNtN6N0ncg
I am sure they will enjoy their no-eq christmas holidays thanks to Rogean's new hardline approach, banning unrelated parties.
lolz
They shared their account info with cheaters. They may not be directly at fault, but they are still responsible and therefore related.
If you give out your password to someone, you are responsible
If you share your account information, you inherit responsibility for their actions. Should an account be used to commit a violation of the rules it will be disciplined appropriately regardless of who was playing it at the time.
Such a hardlined tyrannical approach. Rogean deserves to be drawn and quartered
Kagatob
12-22-2013, 02:26 PM
You mad? HAHAHA
It's over. Go away flea.
Alarti0001
12-22-2013, 02:28 PM
Poor alarti. Is you mad all you have left?
Its all I need. You are flipping your shit.... and its a bit hilarious.
Daldolma
12-22-2013, 02:30 PM
alarti's life has fallen apart in past 3 days, pls show pity
radditsu
12-22-2013, 02:30 PM
Its all I need. You are flipping your shit.... and its a bit hilarious.
You're done, derp
Alarti0001
12-22-2013, 02:32 PM
You're done, derp
You have never really been accurate. I look forward to 1.5 weeks from now >)
YendorLootmonkey
12-22-2013, 02:33 PM
You have never really been accurate. I look forward to 1.5 weeks from now >)
When you can heed Rogean's warning in his announcement and start making changes to improve the raid scene?
Kagatob
12-22-2013, 02:36 PM
Alarti, you are a little boy who has lost his toy. Nothing more, maybe less.
Purdee
12-22-2013, 02:46 PM
When you can heed Rogean's warning in his announcement and start making changes to improve the raid scene?
I don't think he's that bright.
Pringles
12-22-2013, 02:55 PM
I can't wait for the remaining 1.5 weeks to be up, so TMO can come back, reform, and start doing what they were doing again..... but this time getting banned for it because it's no longer tolerated.
The server doesn't revolve around TMO, or whatever new name you're going to reform under. Stop being pricks, the server will thrive without your shenanigans.
Alarti0001
12-22-2013, 03:05 PM
When you can heed Rogean's warning in his announcement and start making changes to improve the raid scene?
You might not have noticed but TMO wasn't suspended for Raid related things... that was FE/IB. TMO will make changes to get all members to be constantly investigated by GMs to catch da dupers!
radditsu
12-22-2013, 03:10 PM
You might not have noticed but TMO wasn't suspended for Raid related things... that was FE/IB. TMO will make changes to get all members to be constantly investigated by GMs to catch da dupers!
Astounding.
Funkutron5000
12-22-2013, 03:20 PM
Are you really surprised by his response, though? Really?
Merekai
12-22-2013, 03:26 PM
I would like to interject into this flaming asshole of a thread some positive news totally unrelated to all this crap:
Congrats Azure Guard on their first Eye of Veeshan kill! Thanks to Ginge for help pulling!
Now back to your regularly scheduled flameathon.
-Chev
radditsu
12-22-2013, 03:29 PM
I would like to interject into this flaming asshole of a thread some positive news totally unrelated to all this crap:
Congrats Azure Guard on their first Eye of Veeshan kill! Thanks to Ginge for help pulling!
Now back to your regularly scheduled flameathon.
-Chev
Grats
Kagatob
12-22-2013, 04:28 PM
You might not have noticed but TMO wasn't suspended for Raid related things... that was FE/IB. TMO will make changes to get all members to be constantly investigated by GMs to catch da dupers!
If course the spin machine is going to completely ignore the server admin's ultimatum. Who didn't see that coming.
Let me guess, their new goal will be to make sure that Velious releases without raid content. If TMO can't have it, nobody can. Am I right?
Alarti0001
12-22-2013, 04:29 PM
If course the spin machine is going to completely ignore the server admin's ultimatum. Who didn't see that coming.
Let me guess, their new goal will be to make sure that Velious releases without raid content. If TMO can't have it, nobody can. Am I right?
Lol shaddup pedo
Kagatob
12-22-2013, 04:31 PM
Confirmed. Ty toolbag.
Daldolma
12-22-2013, 04:44 PM
tmo confirmed cheaters, 86 tainted accounts, alarti confirmed loves taint
Eldorado
12-22-2013, 05:04 PM
DO not share your informations! think its written somewhere on these boards =p
so many happy people on this server now
radditsu
12-22-2013, 06:01 PM
so many happy people on this server now
http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=xRvAAYjmqkE&desktop_uri=%2Fwatch%3Fv%3DxRvAAYjmqkE
talian21
12-22-2013, 06:04 PM
Happy is over; TMO got their tag back.
-Silisk, ikky necro
radditsu
12-22-2013, 07:40 PM
Happy is over; TMO got their tag back.
-Silisk, ikky necro
Ehh either they tow the line or forget about ice dragons aand giants.
Kevynne
12-22-2013, 07:57 PM
http://youtu.be/ZCAln8j1kMk
Just gonna leave this here.
doeda
12-22-2013, 08:09 PM
Lol shaddup pedo
Gaffin 3.0
12-22-2013, 09:09 PM
lol really got their tag back? some real faggots
Brad_mo123
12-22-2013, 09:39 PM
Recent Exploit
Recently, I found out via Rogean's inflammatory post that 2-3 TMO members who had access to a large number of TMO accounts used some sort of item dupe at some point in time on their own characters. Froovy and Internode are two that I have heard of so far (unfortunately members trusted them with access to many accounts, including one of my alt cleric accounts), I have not heard any other evidence implicating any other TMO members. Almost all banned accounts have nothing to do with any exploit. I am sure they will enjoy their no-eq christmas holidays thanks to Rogean's new hardline approach, banning unrelated parties.
In the past, we have dealt with things legitimately. We respect GMs and speak with you through the petition forums and proper channels. I am unsure why you are attacking TMO publicly rather than coming to the leadership and trying to get to the bottom of it. I would obviously assist you any way I can & remove any parties you informed me as cheaters. Banning 80+ unrelated parties seems like a personal vendetta more than anything. Especially when you do it while calling out the guild name, saying we were lucky to not been disbanded. TMO has been playing here since when the server pop was in the low 100s. We have been helping with promoting & classicizing the server for years; perhaps we have dominated the raid scene, but we have contributed as much as we can to bug reports and making this server the classic experience Nilbog envisions.
Real Money Trading
As far as I am aware, 1 ex-TMO named Crazyeyes the King of Thieves was caught for this recently. Totally caught us off guard, there's always been people who quit EQ and cash out, how can you hold a guild accountable for that - One individual member who bails.
Why were no other guilds who had RMTers in it called out to the server? Once again seems like a targeted attack.
Raid Scene
In the past, wizard epic first had been ninja looted off of CT by an officer of a rival guild and nothing was done except a personal suspension. A VP ninja loot of an exe blade off silverwing also occurred in the past with a 1 wk personal suspension. The public announcement of disciplinary action against TMO and the actions of our crazy french Canadian SK(Who has already been suspended for weeks for the infraction - & has a 2month suspension), should have no connection if you wish to be consistent.
If you wanted TMO to change our raid scene approach, you could have asked and we would have been open to any ideas. It seems more like you just want TMO to disband or be severely hurt. This has only been an issue since the return of the players who left for EQ mac. I hope we can resolve this and you will remove the post attacking TMO for a few individuals actions.
Thanks
Dude, just go cut yourself, get it over with. No one wants to hear your crying. This is what happens when you invite so many shady characters into the guild.
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