FE knowingly KS's TMO's Trak, Rushes to complete keys and Epics

[Quickfingers]

FE engages a TMO trakanon 17 seconds after FTE with a KS group and loots 2 keys and a bard guts.

Once Trak dies they loot the teeth and guts and with in 15 minutes from death they handed in a bard epic and two VP keys even after GM warnings tell them to not turn in anything.


Due to previous FTE disputes years ago when certain people got to keep epics on both sides (IB/TMO) FE thinks this is a common ruling and using MQ to see Trakanon had guts(Guild leader has 3 banned MQ accounts) they formed a KS team and engaged Trakanon attempting to DUPE a trak guts by porting and turning in the epic while the GM who was on the scene was removing loot from them.


The only other times epic items have been kept has been when the FTE was contested and it took over 72 hours for a decision on loot. You can NINJA LOOT an epic item and run in complete it in 15 minutes stake claim to it.

Known cheater and Scumbag Szeth comments...

http://i.imgur.com/HE3iN1X.jpg

[SamwiseRed]

http://media.tumblr.com/tumblr_mcj8t6vA5H1rxjte0.gif

cry more baby lol

[Quickfingers]

http://media.tumblr.com/tumblr_mcj8t6vA5H1rxjte0.gif

cry more baby lol

How good are bards on red?

I'm not like Jeremy I want to farm VP with the winning team.

lets do this.

[getsome]

Gratz on your ranger epic.

[OMGWTF420]

didnt they learn this tactic from TMO??

cry moar you got served a pile of your own shit, dumb asses

[Quickfingers]

I'm a nonfactor in this game and on the forums

did you ever answer my EQOA question?

[Rusl]

Gratz on your ranger epic.

[OMGWTF420]

did you ever answer my EQOA question?

lol ya

[SamwiseRed]

basically who the fuck cares. if you want to contest mobs play red. if you want to poopsock and cry when you get outplayed then play blue.

shits simple, not sure if you guys are serious or dumb.

[somnia]

http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f183/Alphidius/Animated%20Gif/Faps/alison-brie-masturbation-eccbc87e4b.gif

[Quickfingers]

no word from mortiss gordrei or Sloan?

Must be all spamming the petition forum.

Thanks,

Steve

[Mortiiss]

Grats TMO on the kill.

[feanan]

TMO had 17 secs with only them engaged, and still got KS by another group?

I think that is the real problem here.

VP bros!
Been farming for 2 years, doesn't matter bro!

[TotallyLegit]

They intentionally KS (17 secs after engage?) and then turn in the loot before a GM call is made...

DISBAND FE.

[Alarti0001]

TMO had 17 secs with only them engaged, and still got KS by another group?



....... If you can't figure out the obvious connotations here you are beyond hopeless

[Alarti0001]

They intentionally KS (17 secs after engage?) and then turn in the loot before a GM call is made...

DISBAND FE.

Next step Plooting a cazic skin and deleting it.

[Quickfingers]

....... If you can't figure out the obvious connotations here you are beyond hopeless


It's not his fault he may of had a memory blurr

[Handull]

so now getting exping and looting the corpse is called ninja looting? i recall one VS where before the mob died a GM shouted in zone that FE had FTE, and TMO preceded to loot the corpse and force the GM to track down the items. TMO has also looted many VS stones and Trak teeth that were overturned, are you saying you never had a guild member turn in one of those items? (rhetorical question)

the times they are a changing when TMO gets KS'd after a self-proclaimed 17 second head start on a 32k hp mob. gotta remind your members to turn autoattack on.

[Alarti0001]

so now getting exping and looting the corpse is called ninja looting? i recall one VS where before the mob died a GM shouted in zone that FE had FTE, and TMO preceded to loot the corpse and force the GM to track down the items. TMO has also looted many VS stones and Trak teeth that were overturned, are you saying you never had a guild member turn in one of those items? (rhetorical question)

the times they are a changing when TMO gets KS'd after a self-proclaimed 17 second head start on a 32k hp mob. gotta remind your members to turn autoattack on.

Multiple dummies in this thread lol.

Looting isnt a big deal... RUSHING to turn in VP keys prior to a decision being made speaks of bad behavior.

As to the 17 seconds, I am going to give you a chance to figure it out.

[Metallikus]

How many epics and vp keys have TMO made off the exact same situation? Hypocritical crybaby thread.

[Alarti0001]

How many epics and vp keys have TMO made off the exact same situation? Hypocritical crybaby thread.

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[Quickfingers]

so now getting exping and looting the corpse is called ninja looting? i recall one VS where before the mob died a GM shouted in zone that FE had FTE, and TMO preceded to loot the corpse and force the GM to track down the items. TMO has also looted many VS stones and Trak teeth that were overturned, are you saying you never had a guild member turn in one of those items? (rhetorical question)

the times they are a changing when TMO gets KS'd after a self-proclaimed 17 second head start on a 32k hp mob. gotta remind your members to turn autoattack on.

That never happened.

And for the stones and teeth yes they have been looted but FE is using this loophole* to double up on keys every 3 days if they KS us and port out before Gms can tell them no.

I've never asked for a suspension of FE for any of the other stuff they did.

But sloan being caught with MQ on 3 characters and them abusing GM rules to dupe bard epics they deserve some punishment.

[Splorf22]

IIRC Xanthias got his epic in the same way.

Either way GMs need to just start deleting these keys and epics and such if people turn in with say <24 hours on a disputed kill.

[Metallikus]

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you are a fucking liar

[Alarti0001]

you are a fucking liar

[falkun]

Gratz on your ranger epic.

/thread

This also answers Alarti's post:
https://www.project1999.org/forums/showpost.php?p=868692&postcount=1008

Quit whining, FE learned from the best on this tactic.

[Alarti0001]

you are a fucking liar

Prove that we have done the same thing in the exact same situation then. I know you are raging because both of your guilds died, but provide some sense here.

[feanan]

....... If you can't figure out the obvious connotations here you are beyond hopeless

Hmm, i'd guess you didn't have enough to kill, but engaged to delay while the rest of the camped force was logging in.

Also interested about TMO ragging about teeth, since they keep crying about how they want competition in VP bro!

[Metallikus]

Prove that we have done the same thing in the exact same situation then. I know you are raging because both of your guilds died, but provide some sense here.

what? are you calling it different because of the time frame involved?

whether it was 15 minutes, 5 hours, or 2 days. TMO has turned in epics and keys from mobs that were in dispute. Are you really going to refute?

[quido]

Try not to jinx us on justice by trolling too hard again, please.

[Alarti0001]

Hmm, i'd guess you didn't have enough to kill, but engaged to delay while the rest of the camped force was logging in.

Also interested about TMO ragging about teeth, since they keep crying about how they want competition in VP bro!

Bad guess.... keep trying.

[falkun]

WTB Visceral's sig right about now.

[Quickfingers]

cannot see what loot a mob has with MQ, try harder noobs...TMO grasping at their last straw

You would know.

[Tanthallas]

the times they are a changing when TMO gets KS'd after a self-proclaimed 17 second head start on a 32k hp mob. gotta remind your members to turn autoattack on.

They are better at rule lawyering than killing mobs, unfortunately.

Total TMO: 22
TMO total damage: 12889

Total FE: 24
FE total damage: 22938

1 Darkdeath (132401)[806] (O) The Mystical Order 60 Necromancer 10:14:20 0 10:15:20 60 0 20 71
2 Option (332777)[801] (O) Forceful Entry 60 Monk 10:14:37 17 10:15:20 43 0 2285 1221
3 Zeelot (122568)[776] (L) The Mystical Order 60 Shadow Knight 10:14:49 29 10:15:20 31 0 19 23
4 Szeth (149541)[814] Forceful Entry 60 Monk 10:14:56 36 10:15:20 24 0 721 827
5 Kegluas (69548)[774] The Mystical Order 60 Warrior 10:14:56 36 10:15:20 24 0 322 1300
6 Merkk (221925)[783] Forceful Entry 60 Monk 10:14:57 37 10:15:20 23 0 125 1201
7 Erevan (141470)[817] Forceful Entry 60 Rogue 10:14:58 38 10:15:20 22 0 1416 1485
8 Mavtank (253459)[812] Forceful Entry 60 Warrior 10:14:59 39 10:15:13 14 0 457 1380
9 Bugaman (19839)[826] Forceful Entry 60 Warrior 10:14:59 39 10:15:20 21 0 683 725
10 Sythrix (72005)[805] Forceful Entry 60 Rogue 10:14:59 39 10:15:20 21 3780 3692 1743
11 Foolonious (179402)[830] Forceful Entry 60 Monk 10:14:59 39 10:15:20 21 0 1885 1331
12 Detoxx (330954)[794] The Mystical Order 60 Warrior 10:14:59 39 10:15:20 21 3781 434 585
13 Novacain (352749)[785] Forceful Entry 60 Rogue 10:15:00 40 10:15:20 20 3783 1168 802
14 Undisclosed (296900)[789] The Mystical Order 60 Rogue 10:15:00 40 10:15:20 20 3781 2420 212
15 Rotokan (327633)[819] Forceful Entry 60 Monk 10:15:01 41 10:15:20 19 0 1164 1211
16 Kitai (203449)[818] The Mystical Order 60 Rogue 10:15:02 42 10:15:20 18 0 1670 888
17 Redonk (280590)[800] The Mystical Order 60 Bard 10:15:04 44 10:15:20 16 3781 0 27
18 Bier (336040)[799] Forceful Entry 60 Monk 10:15:05 45 10:15:20 15 0 1501 1494
19 Rapper (194941)[786] Forceful Entry 60 Bard 10:15:05 45 10:15:20 15 0 272 303
20 Muiriol (290400)[823] The Mystical Order 60 Rogue 10:15:05 45 10:15:20 15 0 2507 1270
21 Eccezan (118670)[816] (O) The Mystical Order 60 Wizard 10:15:05 45 10:15:20 15 0 1650 1750
22 Xarzzardorn (332033)[787] The Mystical Order 60 Enchanter 10:15:06 46 10:15:20 14 0 0 1862
23 Myuharin (140407)[809] Forceful Entry 60 Shadow Knight 10:15:06 46 10:15:20 14 0 338 710
24 Kaerik (229687)[811] The Mystical Order 60 Cleric 10:15:06 46 10:15:20 14 0 0 115
25 Snackromancer (355828)[798] The Mystical Order 60 Necromancer 10:15:06 46 10:15:20 14 0 0 1140
26 Serilis (344288)[829] (O) The Mystical Order 60 Wizard 10:15:07 47 10:15:20 13 0 1650 1750
27 Sunra (289742)[810] Forceful Entry 60 Cleric 10:15:07 47 10:15:20 13 3783 0 40
28 Jennee (360094)[802] Forceful Entry 60 Wizard 10:15:07 47 10:15:20 13 0 825 1750
29 Houdiny (331928)[807] Forceful Entry 60 Wizard 10:15:07 47 10:15:20 13 0 1650 1750
30 Knix (254923)[784] The Mystical Order 60 Druid 10:15:08 48 10:15:20 12 3782 0 332
31 Gadfly (311133)[772] The Mystical Order 60 Cleric 10:15:08 48 10:15:20 12 0 0 415
32 Xasten (148283)[827] The Mystical Order 60 Enchanter 10:15:10 50 10:15:20 10 0 0 462
33 Gabtik (198143)[788] Forceful Entry 60 Wizard 10:15:11 51 10:15:20 9 0 1650 1750
34 Angerclaw (357088)[813] Forceful Entry 60 Shaman 10:15:11 51 10:15:20 9 0 0 626
35 Puyi (348534)[796] The Mystical Order 60 Cleric 10:15:12 52 10:15:20 8 0 0 132
36 Raden (304670)[834] The Mystical Order 60 Shaman 10:15:13 53 10:15:20 7 0 154 60
37 Mavtank (253459)[812] Forceful Entry 60 Warrior 10:15:13 53 10:15:20 7 0 63 882
38 Lilyanna's Pet (SumMageMultiElement) (598)[841] Forceful Entry 49 Warrior 10:15:14 54 10:15:20 6 0 178 457
39 Lilyanna (170004)[825] Forceful Entry 60 Magician 10:15:14 54 10:15:20 6 0 205 500
40 Zucantiz (293121)[773] The Mystical Order 60 Monk 10:15:14 54 10:15:20 6 0 544 405
41 Foorpers (366033)[832] Forceful Entry 60 Wizard 10:15:15 55 10:15:20 5 0 825 875
42 Aenarie (108089)[803] The Mystical Order 60 Cleric 10:15:15 55 10:15:20 5 3785 0 115
43 Desmo (171625)[828] The Mystical Order 60 Cleric 10:15:15 55 10:15:20 5 0 0 99
44 Morphius (69225)[821] Forceful Entry 60 Enchanter 10:15:16 56 10:15:20 4 0 0 0
45 Cyrano (31297)[793] The Mystical Order 60 Rogue 10:15:17 57 10:15:20 3 3785 604 380
46 Joklax (287974)[782] Forceful Entry 60 Shaman 10:15:17 57 10:15:20 3 0 0 313
47 Zobaber (356878)[792] Forceful Entry 60 Wizard 10:15:18 58 10:15:20 2 0 825 875

[Tippett]

Sounds like y'all lost a dps race, shits classic bitches

[jkfranklin]

shut the fuck up alarti, fucking crybaby. Do you have a life or do you live in pixels?

[Metallikus]

looks like dark death was fingering his ass with DA up on trakanon for 17 seconds before FE monk steps up think he had FTE. Trakanon shouldnt stand there as if unengaged if it is in fact engaged for 17 seconds...is this an animation bug that the monk couldnt tell trak was already engaged?

[Metallikus]

or is this a problem with the FTE logs where darkdeath engaged 17 secs earlier but was FD and stood up but the logs show it as engaged the entire time? is tmo manipulating the logs again?

[Nirgon]

Complains about rules not being followed, breaks them?

I thought FE was the good guys here.. tsk tsk.

I think this is the kind of game you are going to have to play to win but try not to get too deep into Sirken's dog house.

[Mortiiss]

looks like dark death was fingering his ass with DA up on trakanon for 17 seconds before FE monk steps up think he had FTE. Trakanon shouldnt stand there as if unengaged if it is in fact engaged for 17 seconds...is this an animation bug that the monk couldnt tell trak was already engaged?

Trakanon pop, and pretty much any other raid target pop on this server, is a very high stress situation. I was not part of the pull/FTE portion of the fight as I was DPSing on Wizard, but we made the call to engage based off that judgment.

Its hard to make a call like that in the heat of the moment since the mob basically spawns and is engaged within a couple minutes, sometimes even less, so we made the call we thought was correct. It ended up being a bad engage call and it happens.

Again, congrats TMO on the kill and we'll see you at the next spawn.

[jkfranklin]

looks like dark death was fingering his ass with DA up on trakanon for 17 seconds before FE monk steps up think he had FTE. Trakanon shouldnt stand there as if unengaged if it is in fact engaged for 17 seconds...is this an animation bug that the monk couldnt tell trak was already engaged?


http://savedysamoria.files.wordpress.com/2010/11/retard-1.jpg

[Tanthallas]

But sloan being caught with MQ on 3 characters and them abusing GM rules to dupe bard epics they deserve some punishment.

1. Sloan hasnt been 'caught' with MQ on 3 characters. I have more characters than women you have slept with, many of them purchased. I cannot do anything about what the people I purchased these accounts from did before I purchased them. I would be willing to bet that they used these programs on servers where they are not illegal though.

2. There was no abuse of GM rules. The decision was pending and people who won shit wanted their shit. I dont blame them tbh; you guys barely dented trak, grats.

[Quickfingers]

Sounds like y'all lost a dps race, shits classic bitches

if that mattered FE would never get a mob ever again.

[Handull]

NINJA LOOT

Looting isnt a big deal

alarti, i never said that looting the corpse was big deal, but the OP sure did. sorry if you didn't notice that.

[Tippett]

if that mattered FE would never get a mob ever again.



Worked this time all that matters

[Quickfingers]

1. Sloan hasnt been 'caught' with MQ on 3 characters. I have more characters than women you have slept with, many of them purchased. I cannot do anything about what the people I purchased these accounts from did before I purchased them. I would be willing to bet that they used these programs on servers where they are not illegal though.

2. There was no abuse of GM rules. The decision was pending and people who won shit wanted their shit. I dont blame them tbh; you guys barely dented trak, grats.

So you buy 10+ characters load MQ on the expendable ones and use them until they are banned? then buy more?

2. Looting Trak then porting to DL to hand in the epic in 5 minutes while having a seperate port team taking people to TT to hand in keys at the same time? You guys where trying to play some trick shit and get free keys/epics anyone can see that.

I feel sorry the masses you invited recently who have no stake in your slimy leadership.

[Mortiiss]

So you buy 10+ characters load MQ on the expendable ones and use them until they are banned? then buy more?

2. Looting Trak then porting to DL to hand in the epic in 5 minutes while having a seperate port team taking people to TT to hand in keys at the same time? You guys where trying to play some trick shit and get free keys/epics anyone can see that.

I feel sorry the masses you invited recently who have no stake in your slimy leadership.

You act is if we had stratted this out to be this way....no, it just turned out that way. Sorry that you're all so upset about it - we were just going for a Trak kill. I'll quote my post again:

Trakanon pop, and pretty much any other raid target pop on this server, is a very high stress situation. I was not part of the pull/FTE portion of the fight as I was DPSing on Wizard, but we made the call to engage based off that judgment.

Its hard to make a call like that in the heat of the moment since the mob basically spawns and is engaged within a couple minutes, sometimes even less, so we made the call we thought was correct. It ended up being a bad engage call and it happens.

Again, congrats TMO on the kill and we'll see you at the next spawn.

[getsome]

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Lies or idiot. You pick.

Xanthias.

[Tanthallas]

So you buy 10+ characters load MQ on the expendable ones and use them until they are banned? then buy more?

2. Looting Trak then porting to DL to hand in the epic in 5 minutes while having a seperate port team taking people to TT to hand in keys at the same time? You guys where trying to play some trick shit and get free keys/epics anyone can see that.

I feel sorry the masses you invited recently who have no stake in your slimy leadership.

1. No, I buy characters that are useful and/or necessary to shit stomp your guild. If I wanted to MQ I would not have bought a fucking ranger or druid or wizard etc., but probably an army of monks.

2. Druid ported the group with the rogues to Skyfire first, actually.

The only thing you feel sorry for is the dwindling number of pixels that TMO is getting.

[Loly Taa]

So you buy 10+ characters load MQ on the expendable ones and use them until they are banned? then buy more?

2. Looting Trak then porting to DL to hand in the epic in 5 minutes while having a seperate port team taking people to TT to hand in keys at the same time? You guys where trying to play some trick shit and get free keys/epics anyone can see that.

I feel sorry the masses you invited recently who have no stake in your slimy leadership.

I highly doubt he buys most of them for plat, they're either old IB accounts he has access to or purchased from his old buddies with weed and smokes.

[Tanthallas]

I highly doubt he buys most of them for plat, they're either old IB accounts he has access to or purchased from his old buddies with weed and smokes.

Yeah, you are right. I farmed over 30 fungi's in BDA to give out to the poor.

Keep trying though guys, you are bound to get something right eventually.

[Loly Taa]

Yeah, you are right. I farmed over 30 fungi's in BDA to give out to the poor.

Keep trying though guys, you are bound to get something right eventually.

We'll keep trying.

Thanks, Steve.

[quido]

Sloan brought the fungi tunics to the people.

[chief]

seems like a classic case of : Loot and Scoot

[Tanthallas]

http://i46.tinypic.com/2vl5yz5.jpg

[OMGWTF420]

sloan has more accounts than HBB has std's, this is a fact

[47shadesofgay]

What's the difference between kiting a dragon and DA tanking a dragon to hold agro?

Aren't both really just an attempt to FTE while stalling and giving your raid time to prepare?

Why is this allowed to occur if the raidforce is not ready to engage immediately? Doesn't it just breed confusion and contempt such as this?

I remember when Zeelot first brought this notion of DA tanking Trak to the server, and this conversation occured, but I'm a little fuzzy as to why the GMs allow it and say that it is viable?

On another note, TMO also did this with ranger epics (see Xanthias) on quest pieces they ninja'd that TR had FTE too according to GM rule, and the item was said that it could not be returned due to the quest already being completed. Same thing will probably happen here.

Should give the people that rush to do this sort of garbage a suspension though IMO. Should do the same for anyone Kiting or DA tanking dragons to stall so a raid can be ready too, but I guess that's common sense that just isn't so common.

[47shadesofgay]

http://i46.tinypic.com/2vl5yz5.jpg

For truth.

Grats Rusl on server first Ranger epic. Rusl #1 EverQuest ranger of all-time.

[Fountree]

So to all other guilds around, form up KS groups and engage trak on someone else's FTE, loot teeth and guts, turn in quickly before GM can take away, then repeat. You're well on your way to a VP keyed force.

Sorry, I don't support you on this at all Sloan. Super shady. I was not involved with the Xanthias shit but that wasn't right either. Doesn't make what you guys did any less shitty. And also, you turned shit in with multiple NO DROP items on multiple characters for a mob you didn't kill.

Anyone who can't see that this is slimy is a stupid fuck.

[Tanthallas]

Should give the people that rush to do this sort of garbage a suspension though IMO. Should do the same for anyone Kiting or DA tanking dragons to stall so a raid can be ready too, but I guess that's common sense that just isn't so common.

I would be glad to see the GMs make a stand on both of these issues, but it would have to be before the fact. When BDA absorbed the VD people, they tried to be nice and reason with TMO and the staff to make the server better. They failed. FE rose out of this; if the rules of the game that TMO has abused for so long are to be swept away now that another guild feeds them the same shit they have been feeding everyone for so long, we would like a little heads up first.

[Ele]

What's the difference between kiting a dragon and DA tanking a dragon to hold agro?

Kiting can indefinitely hold the dragon. DA tanking/positioning is limited in duration.

[Handull]

That never happened.


yes it did, GM shouted FTE before mob died and then told us what dropped, including who looted it and what guild they were in, one was TMO and the other was BDA. not going to waste time digging up logs, but it was one of the poopsock VS spawns

[Kassel]

You reap what you spirit of the wolf.

[Fountree]

I'd support individual suspensions and/or guild suspension for this in lieu of getting the items removed. 17 seconds? ROFL.

[Freeport]

Gah quickfingers you are such a damn pussy- Whats funny about this whole situation is the look on TMO's face when they realize they were KS'd by the number 2 guild with no VP gear HAHA. Guess they won't have a chance when FE starts owning them in VP.

Guess TMO gets a taste of their own medicine

[Tanthallas]

So to all other guilds around, form up KS groups and engage trak on someone else's FTE, loot teeth and guts, turn in quickly before GM can take away, then repeat. You're well on your way to a VP keyed force.

Sorry, I don't support you on this at all Sloan. Super shady. I was not involved with the Xanthias shit but that wasn't right either. Doesn't make what you guys did any less shitty. And also, you turned shit in with multiple NO DROP items on multiple characters for a mob you didn't kill.

Anyone who can't see that this is slimy is a stupid fuck.

We were waiting for Trak reset to get FTE so we could engage.

We thought we had it; we were wrong.

It is just as retarded to DA stall for 20 seconds or do a third of the damage to Trak with the same number of people and act like TMO is a paragon of Trakanon killing. If GMs want to change the rules, they should change them. Until then, there is nothing wrong with turning in items before a GM ruling is made just like there is nothing wrong with shitting up the raid scene with stalling tactics that pretty much always amount to some complication like this.

[Autotune]

I don't know why you guys just don't do this every time and double the loot from each target lol.

[Hurley]

TMO starting to sound like BDA.

[Szeth1]

Known cheater and Scumbag Szeth comments...

http://i.imgur.com/HE3iN1X.jpg

Tiggles I'm hurt that you think that's me. I haven't played on p99 in well over a year.

I am curious though, how did Szeth get unbanned? Seeing as I admitted to selling it for RMT I can't imagine it being unbanned for any legitimate reason.

[Autotune]

Tiggles I'm hurt that you think that's me. I haven't played on p99 in well over a year.

I am curious though, how did Szeth get unbanned? Seeing as I admitted to selling it for RMT I can't imagine it being unbanned for any legitimate reason.

Friends and liars.

[Fountree]

Why does this keep reverting to how TMO got KS'd? Who fucking cares? You guys technically were raid interfering on our engage, and unless you're blind or terrible , you knew we already had an engage before you decided to engage to attempt a KS (17 seconds passed). Guild suspension should follow for this shit behavior, not "haha u guyz deserve it" trolling.

[OMGWTF420]

I don't know why you guys just don't do this every time and double the loot from each target lol.

that would require forethought and planning. neither of which seem likely with who we are talking about

[Autotune]

I don't know why you guys just don't do this every time and double the loot from each target lol.

[Autotune]

that would require forethought and planning. neither of which seem likely with who we are talking about

GMs don't seem to care about duping epics and keys, might as well do it with all turn in epics.

[Tanthallas]

Why does this keep reverting to how TMO got KS'd? Who fucking cares? You guys technically were raid interfering on our engage, and unless you're blind or terrible , you knew we already had an engage before you decided to engage to attempt a KS (17 seconds passed). Guild suspension should follow for this shit behavior, not "haha u guyz deserve it" trolling.

Waiting for your DA staller to die and Trak to reset = raid interfering.

Got it.

This is how the FTE game works; dont pretend like you are new to it.

[Tanthallas]

GMs don't seem to care about duping epics and keys, might as well do it with all turn in epics.

You seem to care alot when its not TMO that does it, apparently.

[Szeth1]

Friends and liars.

Im a bit slow on the RnF game these days... friends of someone with unbanning power? And these people lied to their "friends" to get them unbanned?

So scum and corruption?

[Autotune]

Both guilds coming out ahead, both guilds crying like giant faggots.

[Ele]

Waiting for your DA staller to die and Trak to reset = raid interfering.

Got it.

This is how the FTE game works; dont pretend like you are new to it.

But you didn't wait.

[Fountree]

you were apart of it. Yea it is slimy just like your entire fucking guild. Payback is a bitch

You're right, except that just because I'm in TMO doesn't automatically mean I've 100% agreed on everything we've done in our long raid history here. Way to generalize all TMO into one neat little package.

[Autotune]

Im a bit slow on the RnF game these days... friends of someone with unbanning power? And these people lied to their "friends" to get them unbanned?

So scum and corruption?

It's basically people just lying and being friendly to get things unbanned. Just depends on when the account ban was lifted to tell who did it and the reasons behind it.

[goshozal]

And they say TMO has a spin machine.

[Tanthallas]

Im a bit slow on the RnF game these days... friends of someone with unbanning power? And these people lied to their "friends" to get them unbanned?

So scum and corruption?

I bought Szeth for a manastone and 350k yesterday. He is pretty fucking bad ass.

Dont know what you did before and dont care as long as he doesnt have a fucking MQ flag.

[Autotune]

You seem to care alot when its not TMO that does it, apparently.

Why would I give a fuck about another guild getting a welfare epic again? Congrats bro, welcome to the club of guilds who've gotten GMs/Staff to award you with welfare pixels.

[Lorraine]

memecenter.gif

Gets handed epic quest items from GM

Rogean bans him

Sucks dick, gets unbanned

Complains about people handing in epic items that they "shouldn't"


#shitsclassic

[falkun]

Why does this keep reverting to how TMO got KS'd? Who fucking cares? You guys technically were raid interfering on our engage, and unless you're blind or terrible , you knew we already had an engage before you decided to engage to attempt a KS (17 seconds passed). Guild suspension should follow for this shit behavior, not "haha u guyz deserve it" trolling.

TMO tank doesn't aggro Trak until 29 seconds after FTE. FE has 6 on Trak in 22 seconds between their first and 6th to engage. TMO takes 42 seconds to put 6 on the mob. The only way to stall better is for TMO to pull the mob out to shrooms and kill Protector while Trak paths back...

[Szeth1]

It's basically people just lying and being friendly to get things unbanned. Just depends on when the account ban was lifted to tell who did it and the reasons behind it.

I mean... when I originally sold I didn't really have any motivation to get the character banned. I had made my dime... I was just trying to shed light on shit.

This time I'm pretty gung-ho about it... IF the person who bought Szeth is the one who got him unbanned, then we KNOW without question of an RMT'er who needs to face the music.

[chief]

Tiggles I'm hurt that you think that's me. I haven't played on p99 in well over a year.

I am curious though, how did Szeth get unbanned? Seeing as I admitted to selling it for RMT I can't imagine it being unbanned for any legitimate reason.

I bought Szeth for a manastone and 350k yesterday. He is pretty fucking bad ass.

Dont know what you did before and dont care as long as he doesnt have a fucking MQ flag.
explains why the account is unbanned, this guy seems to get all the accounts he buys unbanned somehow. He probably is the owner of Durison as well.

[Godefroi]

TMO getting owned the way they got 40 keys and 25 epics.

http://puu.sh/g2vy

[Loly Taa]

Why would I give a fuck about another guild getting a welfare epic again? Congrats bro, welcome to the club of guilds who've gotten GMs/Staff to award you with welfare pixels.

welfare pixels indeed, ahahahaha

[Szeth1]

So Tanthallas (Sloan?) did you get Szeth unbanned or was he unbanned when you bought him?

And of course he is pretty fucking badass, but did you notice where his starter points are? /ultimate trolled

[Waedawen]

RNF has devolved into FE winning and TMO bitching about it

[Fountree]

TMO tank doesn't aggro Trak until 29 seconds after FTE. FE has 6 on Trak in 22 seconds between their first and 6th to engage. TMO takes 42 seconds to put 6 on the mob. The only way to stall better is for TMO to pull the mob out to shrooms and kill Protector while Trak paths back...

Ok, but that's not the issue here at all. Our tactics won and they were legitimate. The issue is FE looting teeth and turning in keys/bard epics in order to skirt their removal. You have no problem with that though I'm sure.

[Godefroi]

RNF has devolved into FE winning and TMO bitching about it

Their butthurt level is impressive.

meh.

[Szeth1]

RNF has devolved into FE winning and TMO bitching about it

No. I have hijacked this thread to find out why banned-for-RMT characters are being resold and then unbanned.

[Waedawen]

and GM's of this server actually re-award items with enough bitching and moaning

think about that. just for two moments. and then another one more.

[Fountree]

TMO getting owned the way they got 40 keys and 25 epics.

http://puu.sh/g2vy

Yay let's pull random numbers out of our asses and provide zero evidence. You're a winner, aren't you?

[Tanthallas]

So Tanthallas (Sloan?) did you get Szeth unbanned or was he unbanned when you bought him?

And of course he is pretty fucking badass, but did you notice where his starter points are? /ultimate trolled

He was unbanned when I bought him.

[Fountree]

Btw I love that movie. Face Off is the shit!

[47shadesofgay]

Why would I give a fuck about another guild getting a welfare epic again? Congrats bro, welcome to the club of guilds who've gotten GMs/Staff to award you with welfare pixels.


This is fucking gold haha. I don't know why it took you guys so long to admit it, but I'm glad you've formed a club and elected yourself president of it.

Fountree is like 95% right in this thread guys. Players that do this shit, be they TMO, FE, or even Divinity need to be suspended. You don't need to know the penalty before it happens, it should be common sense that it's wrong and if you do it you will be suspended.

Similarly, the same should be said for DA tanking Trak, but the majority of raiders on this server literally neeed a 10 page rulebook they can read and then attempt to lawyer so that they win, otherwise they will continue to do every small thing they can to gain some sort of advantage, regardless of how absolutely wrong and moronic it looks to someone on the outside of the raidscene.

GMs need to deal with you and punish you more like children than adults, cause that's what most of you are.

Start putting people on timeout and taking away their toys.

[Waedawen]

You can just FEEL the F5 in this thread

[Szeth1]

So who sold it to you then Sloan? Don't just give us the tip, give us the iceberg baby.

[Sadre Spinegnawer]

this is reminding me of my low patience for eq drama. I enjoy it, and it is exciting, but it seems that these kinds of fast and loose games is basically what it means to try to compete for the high end game on this server. As in, 24/7.

If I am remembering classic correctly, this kind of drama is definitely part of the game. But not a 24/7 part. I remember it being periodic, when two or more guilds bumped up against each other. I only remember it getting chronic on my server (Quellious) during the PoP era, when there was a lot of calculated cock-blocking going on to retard people from progressing.

But this is just about getting loots. Not even about cock-blocking. I always thought, the grief about stealing shard mobs, monopolozing key mobs, was valid, since I think it was part of the chaos of those expansions (luclin and PoP).

But this is just about.... loot. And I can get drama on that. But constant? Meh.

These guilds are gonna get lots of turnover. And, to be honest, use yer fuckin brains, it often will be those people who got their loot and are now like.... umm, bored.

[falkun]

Ok, but that's not the issue here at all. Our tactics won and they were legitimate. The issue is FE looting teeth and turning in keys/bard epics in order to skirt their removal. You have no problem with that though I'm sure.

I do have a problem with it. The difference between you and I is that I have not been in a guild that's committed such acts. TMO should quit throwing stones from within their glass house.

[Godefroi]

You're a winner, aren't you?

word.

Face off is the shit

word.

[quido]

For the record, Xanthias didn't loot his epic pieces quick and go complete the quest after being told by the staff that he shouldn't. The decision was awarded to us on the spot by Amelinda, and like a month later she reversed her decision. At least we have some firm rules now. It was 100% obvious that that was our engage and you simply took the matter into your own hands and then acted like total and purposeful delinquents. A lot of things used to not get removed when they should be, but I thought that had ended. I have faith in Sirken and his crew to do what's right here. I'm getting pretty sick of Forceful Entry deciding that we don't have enough people to kill something and then just doing whatever the fuck they want.

[Szeth1]

Jeremy, how do you feel about the rogue unbanning of RMT flagged accounts? Does time heal all wounds?

[Waedawen]

The decision was awarded to us on the spot by Amelinda, and like a month later she reversed her decision.

This is all you need to know about having GM's directly involved in the raid scene.

Buncha fuckin' 2 year olds pulling on Mommy's Skirt.

[Sadre Spinegnawer]

And, GM's used to port entire guilds to holding places until they got their decisions made. A GM that tries to solve a dispute and lets people leave the zone? Weak GM. Port and hold, port and hold, sirs and ladies.

[Tanthallas]

I have faith in Sirken and his crew to do what's right here. I'm getting pretty sick of Forceful Entry deciding that we don't have enough people to kill something and then just doing whatever the fuck they want.

I have faith that Sirken and his crew will laugh at you for crying so much, but maybe thats just me.

Atleast we believe in something, right

[Enygma]

How many epics and vp keys have TMO made off the exact same situation? Hypocritical crybaby thread.

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[quido]

fuk if i know bro

[Nirgon]

Why does this keep reverting to how TMO got KS'd? Who fucking cares? You guys technically were raid interfering on our engage, and unless you're blind or terrible , you knew we already had an engage before you decided to engage to attempt a KS (17 seconds passed). Guild suspension should follow for this shit behavior, not "haha u guyz deserve it" trolling.

Raid suspension is what this calls for, probably epics/keys deleted and previous pieces restored.

[Enygma]

I have faith that Sirken and his crew will laugh at you for crying so much, but maybe thats just me.

Atleast we believe in something, right

I hav faith Sirken wil ldestroy the keys / epic and make you guys farm all the pieces for it again out of sheer disrespect for him and his staff.

[Fountree]

For the record, Xanthias didn't loot his epic pieces quick and go complete the quest after being told by the staff that he shouldn't. The decision was awarded to us on the spot by Amelinda, and like a month later she reversed her decision. At least we have some firm rules now. It was 100% obvious that that was our engage and you simply took the matter into your own hands and then acted like total and purposeful delinquents. A lot of things used to not get removed when they should be, but I thought that had ended. I have faith in Sirken and his crew to do what's right here. I'm getting pretty sick of Forceful Entry deciding that we don't have enough people to kill something and then just doing whatever the fuck they want.

QFT...obv my memory of the specifics suck lol :p

[47shadesofgay]

This is all you need to know about having GM's directly involved in the raid scene.

Buncha fuckin' 2 year olds pulling on Mommy's Skirt.

This guy gets it.

TMO mad FE beat them up and took their toy.
What FE did was wrong, but TMO used to bully people the same way.

What to do about it? Run and tell mommy and hope she makes everything better.

[Tanthallas]

I hav faith Sirken wil ldestroy the keys / epic and make you guys farm all the pieces for it again out of sheer disrespect for him and his staff.

Where is the disrespect on my part?

Only thing disrespectful is making QQ posts EVERY FUCKING TIME something doesnt go your way.

[47shadesofgay]

QFT...obv my memory of the specifics suck lol :p

The coverup is strong with this one.. your memory isn't fuzzy, Jeremy is making shit up to make it look better. The decision was reversed far sooner than that.

[Hurley]

How dare FE engage a mob that has two TMO stallers FD underneath it with DA idols.

[Waedawen]

but TMO used to bully people the same way.


I desperately want that to be true, but the fact of the matter is TMO is "Elite" (sorry, 'Premier') because the various iterations of IB TR and DA got tired of the game... 2 years ago.

[Waedawen]

oh and fish bait and transcendence and shit.

[quido]

If you don't think stuff like this is eventually going to catch up to you, you're silly. If we're short and get FTE, let us wipe and get more joy out of it. Fraps us if we train you. That's how it's been for a while now. You can't spit in the face of the staff and just do whatever the fuck you want because you feel like it (see Perun). Respect their decisions and have faith in them.

[falkun]

If you don't think stuff like this is eventually going to catch up to you, you're silly. If we're short and get FTE, let us wipe and get more joy out of it. Fraps us if we train you. That's how it's been for a while now. You can't spit in the face of the staff and just do whatever the fuck you want because you feel like it (see Perun). Respect their decisions and have faith in them.

Is that what you said to Ambrotos & Amelinda during a Vox kill?

[Tanthallas]

This guy gets it.

TMO mad FE beat them up and took their toy.
What FE did was wrong, but TMO used to bully people the same way.

What to do about it? Run and tell mommy and hope she makes everything better.


This is a game. This game has rules. Those rules are established by the GMs. If the GMs rule that something is not against the rule, it is not 'wrong' to do it because you have some morals or ethics that you want to throw around about how things should be done.

Dont start with this wrong and right shit. If GMs want to change the rules, they can. Until then, these are the rules of the game.

[Tanthallas]

How dare FE engage a mob that has two TMO stallers FD underneath it with DA idols.

Worst crime in history. Castrate all FE members. Burn the castle down.

[Enygma]

Where is the disrespect on my part?

Only thing disrespectful is making QQ posts EVERY FUCKING TIME something doesnt go your way.

GM said to FE: "Do NOT complete keys/epic"

FE proceed to: complete Keys/Epic.

FE mad they got Fay / CT this week and nothing else.

[Halfelfbard]

Text book ninja looting, you should b planning a vacation.

[falkun]

IDK how you can be "mad" about getting CT in any week, especially if you're not TMO. IDC how many other mobs I didn't get that week, I'd be fuckin proud of CT kill the way this server does that god.

[Hurley]

ITT: TMO learning how smaller guilds have felt for the last 2 years.

[Tanthallas]

GM said to FE: "Do NOT complete keys/epic"

FE proceed to: complete Keys/Epic.

FE mad they got Fay / CT this week and nothing else.


When did the GM say do not complete keys/epic? It was our kill and it was under dispute; until resolved, it was our kill. This is how it has always been. Do you like making shit up?

You should be thanking us for killing Trak for you, you clearly could not have...especially without a tank on him for 2/3 the fight. Im sure Eccezan would have soloed though.

[Fountree]

To FV, Div, BDA, Full Circle, the lesson from this thread is obvious: form a KS group of all 60 rogues, engage trak right behind Guild A, loot and turn in keys fast enough. Boom VP access w/ no repercussions.

[Autotune]

This is fucking gold haha. I don't know why it took you guys so long to admit it, but I'm glad you've formed a club and elected yourself president of it.

Fountree is like 95% right in this thread guys. Players that do this shit, be they TMO, FE, or even Divinity need to be suspended. You don't need to know the penalty before it happens, it should be common sense that it's wrong and if you do it you will be suspended.

Similarly, the same should be said for DA tanking Trak, but the majority of raiders on this server literally neeed a 10 page rulebook they can read and then attempt to lawyer so that they win, otherwise they will continue to do every small thing they can to gain some sort of advantage, regardless of how absolutely wrong and moronic it looks to someone on the outside of the raidscene.

GMs need to deal with you and punish you more like children than adults, cause that's what most of you are.

Start putting people on timeout and taking away their toys.

Really thinking that you are very feminine now, you have horrible reading comprehension and you take small amounts of info and twist them with your imagination.

Amelinda treated people like children... horrible decision making skills.

Either way, it's happened with IB, TMO, VD (a few times), and now FE. This is all Amelinda's fault for ruling the way she did after she botched the ruling that awarded Xanthias an epic. Her one mistake carried over into a "precedent" bullshit and then everyone expected free welfare turn-ins.

[Tanthallas]

Text book ninja looting, you should b planning a vacation.

Tell your dps to learn how to play, maybe get the kill next time?

[Enygma]

When did the GM say do not complete keys/epic? It was our kill and it was under dispute; until resolved, it was our kill. This is how it has always been. Do you like making shit up?

You should be thanking us for killing Trak for you, you clearly could not have...especially without a tank on him for 2/3 the fight. Im sure Eccezan would have soloed though.

Negative... it was TMO kill... FE ks'd. Nothing was under dispute.

[Hurley]

To FV, Div, BDA, Full Circle, the lesson from this thread is obvious: form a KS group of all 60 rogues, engage trak right behind Guild A, loot and turn in keys fast enough. Boom VP access w/ no repercussions.

Because that is exactly what happened :rolleyes:

[falkun]

Really thinking that you are very feminine now, you have horrible reading comprehension and you take small amounts of info and twist them with your imagination.

Amelinda treated people like children... horrible decision making skills.

Either way, it's happened with IB, TMO, VD (a few times), and now FE. This is all Amelinda's fault for ruling the way she did after she botched the ruling that awarded Xanthias an epic. Her one mistake carried over into a "precedent" bullshit and then everyone expected free welfare turn-ins.

TMO set the precedent, hell, they even got a "server first" post and picture out of the precedent. Now they are getting fucked by the precedent and NOW its time to alter the rules? TMO's a year+ late to the party.

[Tanthallas]

To FV, Div, BDA, Full Circle, the lesson from this thread is obvious: form a KS group of all 60 rogues, engage trak right behind Guild A, loot and turn in keys fast enough. Boom VP access w/ no repercussions.

You guys have been doing it for a while, you would know.

I remember those many contested poopsock kills of BDA and TMO when TMO would pretty much always get exp and run to turn in keys immediately.

This is the most hilarious shit I have ever seen

[Autotune]

TMO set the precedent, hell, they even got a "server first" post and picture out of the precedent. Now they are getting fucked by the precedent and NOW its time to alter the rules? TMO's a year+ late to the party.

Wrong, Amelinda ruled that it was TMO's kill, then overturned it weeks later. However, your guild was fucking retarded the entire time it raided and made up some of the stupidest shit I've ever seen. I can hardly blame you for not knowing anything.

[Hurley]

Negative... it was TMO kill... FE ks'd. Nothing was under dispute.

Sworen it would have been a TMO kill if you had logged in to tank it instead of TMO FD stalling FTE.

[chief]

If the GM actually told the guild not to complete keys/quests and they did anyway, that stuff should get removed or the gm's just took a slap in the face. But if the gm's didnt say that ,then grats on your keys / epic, double guts/trak teeth this spawn(best trak evar)!

[Tanthallas]

Negative... it was TMO kill... FE ks'd. Nothing was under dispute.

Just keep saying No when people say Yes, best way to argue.

I posted the logs. Learn to read and then go look at them, you will see clearly that FE was waiting to try and grab FTE off of TMO so we could engage. What, did you want us just to log off and let you kill Trak because Zeelot and Darkdeath bunked up together for the night and waited at the login screen to hold Trak with DA? I thought you loved competition!

[Hurley]

If the GM actually told the guild not to complete keys/quests and they did anyway, that stuff should get removed or the gm's just took a slap in the face. But if the gm's didnt say that ,then grats on your keys / epic, double guts/trak teeth this spawn(best trak evar)!

:D

[Tanthallas]

Sworen it would have been a TMO kill if you had logged in to tank it instead of TMO FD stalling FTE.

He logs into RnF when batphones go off now.

[Hurley]

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[47shadesofgay]

This is a game. This game has rules. Those rules are established by the GMs. If the GMs rule that something is not against the rule, it is not 'wrong' to do it because you have some morals or ethics that you want to throw around about how things should be done.

Dont start with this wrong and right shit. If GMs want to change the rules, they can. Until then, these are the rules of the game.

That's bullshit. If you don't know right from wrong and will do whatever it takes to obtain pixels because theres no set rule saying you cant (we refer to this as lawyering) then you are part of the problem.

That's why most stable adults don't take join either FE or TMO, they don't need "rules" to tell them the difference between right and wrong on a video game.

It's like skipping down a hall way in high school to get where you are going faster when there is a rule against running. Sure nobody said you couldn't skip, but you should know it's wrong and you shouldn't do it.

Are you people really children, do you really need a 10 page long book of raiding rules so you know exactly what you can/can't (right/wrong) do?

I really wish they would suspend you guys far more often and outright ban your characters. Only way things could possibly get better.

[47shadesofgay]

Really thinking that you are very feminine now, you have horrible reading comprehension and you take small amounts of info and twist them with your imagination.

Amelinda treated people like children... horrible decision making skills.

Either way, it's happened with IB, TMO, VD (a few times), and now FE. This is all Amelinda's fault for ruling the way she did after she botched the ruling that awarded Xanthias an epic. Her one mistake carried over into a "precedent" bullshit and then everyone expected free welfare turn-ins.

Words words words, blame someone else (Amelinda).

You people need to be fucking banned, not slapped on the hand and set free to keep doing shit because it's not technically "against rules".

And yes, the people with authority on the server (be them ambratos, hobby, amelinda, or Rogean) are your proverbial mommy for as long as you keep running to them to fix your ouchies.

The coddling is what's out of control. Hope FE eats some suspensions.

[falkun]

Yes, if its not written down/stated as a rule/precedent on this server, TMO will not agree to it and anyone competing against TMO will not be able to agree to it and still be on equal competitive footing.

That's why it is exactly 36 seconds (2 DA idols) between TMO getting FTE and TMO's first non-FD class engaging Trak.

[Hurley]

It's like skipping down a hall way in high school to get where you are going faster when there is a rule against running. Sure nobody said you couldn't skip, but you should know it's wrong and you shouldn't do it.

http://vis.berkeley.edu/courses/cs294-69-fa11/wiki/images/thumb/1/1b/Lolwut.jpg/270px-Lolwut.jpg

[Enygma]

He logs into RnF when batphones go off now.

3 hours later bro ;)

[Hurley]

If you were skipping down the hall in high school you had bigger problems... like trying to find a way to tell your dad you are gay.

[Autotune]

Don't need rules printed out, they just need to actually enforce rules that they have and give harsh punishments for it.

If I were a GM, the raid scene population would drop by about 35-60% in the first 2 weeks. I'd love give out 3 month suspensions to not just a character, but to every account they've logged into in the last month (which would help with the sharing account info with people you shouldn't).

I could hear the cries of "omg, ruining raiding on p99" and I'd love it. People would stop trying to figure out ways to beat the system if they system beat them, raped them, killed them, and then raped them again publicly while eating freedom fries.

[Enygma]

Sworen it would have been a TMO kill if you had logged in to tank it instead of TMO FD stalling FTE.

Damn it :( good point...

but hasn't that been the FE VS tactic for like... EVER?

[47shadesofgay]

If you were skipping down the hall in high school you had bigger problems... like trying to find a way to tell your dad you are gay.

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[Tanthallas]

That's bullshit. If you don't know right from wrong and will do whatever it takes to obtain pixels because theres no set rule saying you cant (we refer to this as lawyering) then you are part of the problem.

That's why most stable adults don't take join either FE or TMO, they don't need "rules" to tell them the difference between right and wrong on a video game.

It's like skipping down a hall way in high school to get where you are going faster when there is a rule against running. Sure nobody said you couldn't skip, but you should know it's wrong and you shouldn't do it.

Are you people really children, do you really need a 10 page long book of raiding rules so you know exactly what you can/can't (right/wrong) do?

I really wish they would suspend you guys far more often and outright ban your characters. Only way things could possibly get better.

Yes, if its not written down/stated as a rule/precedent on this server, TMO will not agree to it and anyone competing against TMO will not be able to agree to it and still be on equal competitive footing.

That's why it is exactly 36 seconds (2 DA idols) between TMO getting FTE and TMO's first non-FD class engaging Trak.

@47: It sucks. We all know this. We can typically understand right from wrong...but the only way this server will be able to have that type of environment is if the people who refuse to allow it are beaten.

[Enygma]

Don't need rules printed out, they just need to actually enforce rules that they have and give harsh punishments for it.

If I were a GM, the raid scene population would drop by about 35-60% in the first 2 weeks. I'd love give out 3 month suspensions to not just a character, but to every account they've logged into in the last month (which would help with the sharing account info with people you shouldn't).

I could hear the cries of "omg, ruining raiding on p99" and I'd love it. People would stop trying to figure out ways to beat the system if they system beat them, raped them, killed them, and then raped them again publicly while eating freedom fries.

Hail Team Uthgaard!

[OMGWTF420]

Don't need rules printed out, they just need to actually enforce rules that they have and give harsh punishments for it.

If I were a GM, the raid scene population would drop by about 35-60% in the first 2 weeks. I'd love give out 3 month suspensions to not just a character, but to every account they've logged into in the last month (which would help with the sharing account info with people you shouldn't).

I could hear the cries of "omg, ruining raiding on p99" and I'd love it. People would stop trying to figure out ways to beat the system if they system beat them, raped them, killed them, and then raped them again publicly while eating freedom fries.

if you were a GM and made good on this statement i might actually consider playing here again

[Tenlaar]

I really wish they would suspend you guys far more often and outright ban your characters. Only way things could possibly get better.

That doesn't work if they keep getting unbanned. Delete them!

[Autotune]

if you were a GM and made good on this statement i might actually consider playing here again

I've raided long enough to know why it is the way it is and why it keeps getting worse.

The rewards for beating the system far out weigh the penalty for being caught breaking rules.

[TotallyLegit]

If I were a GM, the raid scene population would drop by about 35-60% in the first 2 weeks. I'd love give out 3 month suspensions to not just a character, but to every account they've logged into in the last month (which would help with the sharing account info with people you shouldn't).

I could hear the cries of "omg, ruining raiding on p99" and I'd love it. People would stop trying to figure out ways to beat the system if they system beat them, raped them, killed them, and then raped them again publicly while eating freedom fries.

No you wouldn't. You would probably do as instructed to keep the server drama high and the forum cash flowing.

You think someone hosts this server for shits and giggles?

THINK ABOUT IT.

[Enygma]

No you wouldn't. You would probably do as instructed to keep the server drama high and the forum cash flowing.

You think someone hosts this server for shits and giggles?

THINK ABOUT IT.

/tin foil on!

AND DONT FORGET TO CLICK GOOGLE LINKS AT THE TOP OF THE PAGE!!

[Scowlie]

Damn, I didn't think TMO would actually make this thread because they would be embarrassed. Congratulations on doing exactly what you have been crying about for the past few months: stalling and FTE sniping.

For a guild that claims to not care about bosses because you have been killing them for over a year, there is some irony in having 20~ players login at 7 am and attempting to stall because you know you had no chance at it lost without FTE.

Grats on another clueless GM who wasn't actually there giving you free loot instead of upholding the established rules.

[Autotune]

THINK ABOUT IT.

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I kept thinking about this and finally realized what you were emulating.

[Ele]

If you were skipping down the hall in high school you had bigger problems... like trying to find a way to tell your dad you are gay.

oh homophobic comments, quality.

btw friendly reminder your sig is in violation of the forum rules.

http://www.project1999.org/forums/showthread.php?p=877228#post877228

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[Scowlie]

If I were a GM, the entire server population would drop by about 35-60% in the first week.

Fixed.

If any FE/TMO member or RNF poster becomes a GM, the server is officially ruined. Lets be real, the raid scene is already ruined and it's only going downhill.

You as a GM? It would be the final nail in the coffin.

[Autotune]

Fixed.

If any FE/TMO member or RNF poster becomes a GM, the server is officially ruined. Lets be real, the raid scene is already ruined and it's only going downhill.

You as a GM? It would be the final nail in the coffin.

That's because the GMs keep allowing FE/TMO to bring it down. I can assure you, the population would rise even if you removed all of FE/TMO.

[Enygma]

Fixed.

If any FE/TMO member or RNF poster becomes a GM, the server is officially ruined. Lets be real, the raid scene is already ruined and it's only going downhill.

You as a GM? It would be the final nail in the coffin.

Been sayin it for months - Velious bros! Only thing that will fix this shit.

[Enygma]

No you wouldn't. You would probably do as instructed to keep the server drama high and the forum cash flowing.

You think someone hosts this server for shits and giggles?

THINK ABOUT IT.

and btw... I was serious about clicking the Google Ads - Support P99 as they do and excellent job for free and put up with all this whiny bullshit that makes us keep coming back day in and day out :)

[Picks]

hey.. get out mobilized... and claim FTE with like 2 people in zone. its over. its fucking over TMO.

[TotallyLegit]

/tin foil on!

AND DONT FORGET TO CLICK GOOGLE LINKS AT THE TOP OF THE PAGE!!

Then explain to us why openly admitted RMTed accounts are not permanently banned? Why well established RMT dealers (platlord) are still in business. Why players who are repeat offenders of training and other acts of "douchebaggery" do not get permanently banned?

I could tell you why, but I want to know what you think. That's assuming you can, of course.


I kept thinking about this and finally realized what you were emulating.

It's obvious you were thinking very hard about something, but evidently it had absolutely nothing to do with what I said.

[Scowlie]

That's because the GMs keep allowing FE/TMO to bring it down. I can assure you, the population would rise even if you removed all of FE/TMO.

The population has nothing to do with TMO or FE. A vast majority of the people who play here have probably opted out of RNF and have no plans on hitting end game. They are here because they want to enjoy classic EverQuest.

As for the raid scene, the same thing could have been said for DA and IB.

It doesn't matter what the guild name is, there is always going to be conflict when a mass of players are competing for limited content.

[Fountree]

Lol Scowlie is def confirmed dumbest fuck I've seen on this forum. Dude hides behind an anon troll account, so probably started on p99 a few months ago, wants his first trak bp, and throws grandiose claims around to cover up that he is in fact clueless about server raiding rules and EverQuest in general.

[OMGWTF420]

Been sayin it for months - Velious bros! Only thing that will fix this shit.

velious will just give people more shit to cry about

[Scowlie]

Lol Scowlie is def confirmed dumbest fuck I've seen on this forum. Dude hides behind an anon troll account, so probably started on p99 a few months ago, wants his first trak bp, and throws grandiose claims around to cover up that he is in fact clueless about server raiding rules and EverQuest in general.

I've probably been here longer than you have, son.

Cute post, though.

http://cdn.memegenerator.net/instances/400x/34256143.jpg

[Fountree]

Grats on another clueless GM who wasn't actually there giving you free loot instead of upholding the established rules.

HAHaHAHAHAHHHahah...Wait he's serious? /facepalm

[Autotune]

It's obvious you were thinking very hard about something, but evidently it had absolutely nothing to do with what I said.

Has everything to do with it. You're emulating a delusional conspiracy theorist. Fits perfectly.

[Hurley]

Well someone pays for the 10 gigabit connection the server is hosted @. That shit isn't cheap (starts at $400 bucks a month).

I just hope Rogean gives FE the same deal TMO has.

[Fountree]

You obviously care enough to respond to my post. So No one in that meme really = you.

[Enygma]

Then explain to us why openly admitted RMTed accounts are not permanently banned? Why well established RMT dealers (platlord) are still in business. Why players who are repeat offenders of training and other acts of "douchebaggery" do not get permanently banned?

I could tell you why, but I want to know what you think. That's assuming you can, of course.



Bro... I agree those motherfuckers should be banned and burned to the ground.

However, a bad precedent was set back in the day when IB ran things and their guildies were the GM's.

Dark Ascension gets raid suspended for training... IB had 1 character suspended everytime they were caught training.

But I was actually serious about clicking the google adds and supporting the server as I spend a lot of time here and enjoy it...

I just wish there was more focus towards velious - less towards fixing broke ass raid scene because of lack of content and too many players being high level.

TL;DR - Kunark is broke because 50 people can butt rush content and win... Velious - 50 people butt rush with no organization - 50 people die instantly doing 0 dmg to mob. FTE / Raid disputes fixed.

[Enygma]

velious will just give people more shit to cry about

see above post.

[Picks]

maybe Alarti RMtd the 100k he owes me for server donation.

[Autotune]

The population has nothing to do with TMO or FE. A vast majority of the people who play here have probably opted out of RNF and have no plans on hitting end game. They are here because they want to enjoy classic EverQuest.

As for the raid scene, the same thing could have been said for DA and IB.

It doesn't matter what the guild name is, there is always going to be conflict when a mass of players are competing for limited content.

Opting out of RnF has nothing to do with anything we are talking about, as RnF isn't limited to end-game raiding.

Enjoying classic EQ includes the raid targets.

Finally, it has nothing to do with removing conflict, it's has everything to do with making the conflict reasonable. There is absolutely nothing reasonable about the current level of conflict in the raid scene currently.

[47shadesofgay]

I've raided long enough to know why it is the way it is and why it keeps getting worse.

The rewards for beating the system far out weigh the penalty for being caught breaking rules.

Indeed. CT theories aside, the question then becomes: why is it so?

Anyone who can formulate an answer to that question themselves, and still plays on this server is either the world's biggest masochist, or their love for classic EQ truly clouds their logic.

[TotallyLegit]

Finally, it has nothing to do with removing conflict, it's has everything to do with making the conflict reasonable. There is absolutely nothing reasonable about the current level of conflict in the raid scene currently.

Right. Yet is continues unhindered. And in fact, variance has been increased; more tracking, more sniping, more desperation.


So for you to call me delusional feels a lot like opposite day.

[maverixdamighty]

17 seconds after fte where you were da stalling. grats on the fte but we did more damage obviously and thought we had the FTE.

[SamwiseRed]

Sounds like y'all lost a dps race, shits classic bitches

[Yapas]

Question for GMs & Devs : If by example "I" Ninja loot epic pieces & turn in (when I know at 100% my guild didn't have fte) while GM busy or not online = keep my epic without any problem ?
Imo when people "steals" intentionally loot like FE did on last trakanon, guess temporary ban (imo) should be a good warning to stop this kind of douchebag actions.

[Enygma]

17 seconds after fte where you were da stalling. grats on the fte but we did more damage obviously and thought we had the FTE.

Says TMO has 17 seconds of FTE delay stalling... claims they thought they had FTE...

[SamwiseRed]

just make seb a no gm intervention zone

[Yapas]

just make seb a no gm intervention zone

ahah

[Nizzarr]

It's about time they let people KS eachother and deal with their own poop.

[Handull]

Question for GMs & Devs : If by example "I" Ninja loot epic pieces & turn in (when I know at 100% my guild didn't have fte) while GM busy or not online = keep my epic without any problem ?
Imo when people "steals" intentionally loot like FE did on last trakanon, guess temporary ban (imo) should be a good warning to stop this kind of douchebag actions.

there is a big difference between getting FTE and ninja looting. There is only a small difference between FTE and KSing. FTE vs KS comes down to intent, and thats hard/impossible to prove, so flame on. ninja looting is not getting the exp kill and looting the mob. when FTE is unclear the precedent is that the exp guild loots and scoots while the other guild petitions.

your question is useless because it implies that the GMs could ever know/prove that you knew you didn't have fte. looting a corpse that your guild didn't get exp on is against the rules everywhere, even in VP so they say.

again whoever gets exp has always just looted and left to do w/e they want to do. once in a while a GM is there for the kill and moves the loot before anyone has time to gate, but generally there is a lag time.

[Zeelot]

The Guide was in Seb standing by Trak corpse, yet the no drop items still got ninja'd in front of the guide. Then they raced for hand ins - even though guide told them explicitly not to go hand them in.

All I hear from fe = excuses, excuses! They just desperate for those keys and epics so they need to try and piggyback off our kills. I understand.

Sloan's dps argument is meaningless, the rules aren't KS group - if they were then it would be relevant. Trak was going to die regardless, FE just decided to provide dps + KS for a chance at free keys and epic. Can someone say, desperation!?

[maverixdamighty]

If you don't think stuff like this is eventually going to catch up to you, you're silly. If we're short and get FTE, let us wipe and get more joy out of it. Fraps us if we train you. That's how it's been for a while now. You can't spit in the face of the staff and just do whatever the fuck you want because you feel like it (see Perun). Respect their decisions and have faith in them.

seriously ? You guys were stalling and got beat period. I can understand using DA to position the mob and engage right after, but you guys were clearly stalling and the logs show we beat you to the mob after your stall and out dps'd your raid 2 to 1. QQ.

[Yapas]

there is a big difference between getting FTE and ninja looting. There is only a small difference between FTE and KSing. FTE vs KS comes down to intent, and thats hard/impossible to prove, so flame on. ninja looting is not getting the exp kill and looting the mob. when FTE is unclear the precedent is that the exp guild loots and scoots while the other guild petitions.

your question is useless because it implies that the GMs could ever know/prove that you knew you didn't have fte. looting a corpse that your guild didn't get exp on is against the rules everywhere, even in VP so they say.

again whoever gets exp has always just looted and left to do w/e they want to do. once in a while a GM is there for the kill and moves the loot before anyone has time to gate, but generally there is a lag time.

OK ! so why turn in directly Epic with guts so fast and not waiting GM decision ? It is clear as water.. FE intentionally made that because they know GM's will probably not remove Epic...
If it was a TMO who got epic like that, ALL FE , Iran & probably North Korea already over aggro us.

I really hope a strong decision from GM, because this kind of shit is not acceptable

[Chloroform]

I love making QQ posts EVERY FUCKING TIME something doesnt go your way.

[OMGWTF420]

for those of you just tuning in let me recap this thread

mob spawns
tmo and fe try to out douche each other
tears were made public
the rest of the server still doesnt care

[maverixdamighty]

Says TMO has 17 seconds of FTE delay stalling... claims they thought they had FTE...

never claimed that please point it out. option thought darkdeath fd'd and lost his FTE and he hit trak before zeelot so we thought we had FTE. keep spinning it. once again we did the lion's share of the dmg and had more people there again.

[Splorf22]

Does anyone have a SS of the guide telling FE not to hand in the items?

[Yapas]

looks like FE officiers has no control on mercenaries guildmate or they allowed (more worse imo lol)

[Zeelot]

Had more people + did more damage = Still lost


FYI


We can kill Trak at whatever pace we please with however many people we want. Don't interfere with our kills after clear Fte you scrubs! Learn to assess the situation better.

[Handull]

OK ! so why turn in directly Epic with guts so fast and not waiting GM decision ? It is clear as water.. FE intentionally made that because they know GM's will probably not remove Epic...
If it was a TMO who got epic like that, ALL FE , Iran & probably North Korea already over aggro us.

I really hope a strong decision from GM, because this kind of shit is not acceptable


actually no. i've had a gm give me no drop raid loot and when i asked if the other guild lost the item they said no, it was already turned in so here's a new one for you, too much trouble to figure out which items to return to that person while taking away their epic, grats for them and you. (not a direct quote.) i didn't make a big shit show about it nor has anyone else. many of the early trak kills FE got were an FTE race decided later by a GM. in those cases tmo walked away with the loot and no one cared what they did with it. we knew the dropable stuff was returned to us and that we were given our teeth, but zero fucks were given about how many alts tmo vp key'd with the teeth they looted.


The Guide was in Seb standing by Trak corpse, yet the no drop items still got ninja'd in front of the guide. Then they raced for hand ins - even though guide told them explicitly not to go hand them in.

All I hear from fe = excuses, excuses! They just desperate for those keys and epics so they need to try and piggyback off our kills. I understand.

Sloan's dps argument is meaningless, the rules aren't KS group - if they were then it would be relevant. Trak was going to die regardless, FE just decided to provide dps + KS for a chance at free keys and epic. Can someone say, desperation!?

second or third time this claim has been made. i assume someone in tmo had fraps running, so post a SS already and prove that FE looted when the GM said not to.

[maverixdamighty]

looks like FE officiers has no control on mercenaries guildmate or they allowed (more worse imo lol)

is this english?

[Chloroform]

never claimed that please point it out. option thought darkdeath fd'd and lost his FTE and he hit trak before zeelot so we thought we had FTE. keep spinning it. once again we did the lion's share of the dmg and had more people there again.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y1In6VgELKQ spin urself outta this one budy

[Yapas]

is this english?

FU english elitist, my native language is not english so go troll someone else

[maverixdamighty]

Had more people + did more damage = Still lost


FYI


We can kill Trak at whatever pace we please with however many people we want. Don't interfere with our kills after clear Fte you scrubs! Learn to assess the situation better.

had about the same amount of people + did more damage = losing with tmo raid stalling. QQ

[Servellious]

TMO changing to TMP to many petitions. In all of 2012 never seen a guild cry more than TMO. I love the DA stall tactics too it just shows everyone how desperate you guys are knowing you have no chance in a straight race. Keep the desperation up keep crying I use your tears on paper towels as a wet wipe to clean my ass?

[maverixdamighty]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y1In6VgELKQ spin urself outta this one budy

that has already been discussed in length...way to contribute nothing to this thread.

[maverixdamighty]

FU english elitist, my native language is not english so go troll someone else

your crying is the only thing trolling here. aren't you the guy who just joined tmo recently yet runs his mouth like he was a founding member?

[Chloroform]

double post, QQ harder bro

[maverixdamighty]

double post, QQ harder bro

which guild came here starting this thread? lol...

[falkun]

double post, QQ harder bro

Double post = QQ now? Alarti's the biggest QQer in RNF.

[maverixdamighty]

double post, QQ harder bro

also how you aren't suspended for the ct crap i have no clue. must be nice not being held accountable.

[Yapas]

your crying is the only thing trolling here. aren't you the guy who just joined tmo recently yet runs his mouth like he was a founding member?

rofl..pathetic.

I just asking for GM strong decision to stop this kind of lame actions. No need to be a founding member to defend his guild & guildmates...

[Chloroform]

tmo loosing in game and on the forums. Ladies n Gents, we all get to witness this shitty guild die and i gotta say it is funny. Rip in peace tmo

this actually deserves an lol. I thank u laughter is the best with a side of packed bong

life is good

[47shadesofgay]

Had more people + did more damage = Still lost


FYI


We can kill Trak at whatever pace we please with however many people we want. Don't interfere with our kills after clear Fte you scrubs! Learn to assess the situation better.

The server would be a better place if you kept the lawyering confined to your real life.

Chaining DA agro to hold FTE for 20+ seconds while your guild prepares is stalling, regardless of how it is ruled, and hopefully the GMs realize that and change it.

It's your lawyering and stalling tactics that lead to FE not knowing whether or not they had FTE legitly.

That said, turning in quest pieces on contested raid mobs when a GM specifically tells you not to is no bueno, and I hope the people that did it earn suspensions/bans if they were specifically told not to and did it anyway.

[Servellious]

Haha after our last vp attempt even big daddy z got scared and is doing what ever he can to help cock block. I love the code red desperation mode

[maverixdamighty]

rofl..pathetic.

I just asking for GM strong decision to stop this kind of lame actions. No need to be a founding member to defend his guild & guildmates...

ya they should stop counting da stalling as FTE. agree 100% that tmo had no plans of engaging the mob anytime soon and were stalling. thanks for agreeing.

[Chloroform]

also how you aren't suspended for the ct crap i have no clue. must be nice not being held accountable.

Reiterate

[maverixdamighty]

The server would be a better place if you kept the lawyering confined to your real life.

Chaining DA agro to hold FTE for 20+ seconds while your guild prepares is stalling, regardless of how it is ruled, and hopefully the GMs realize that and change it.

It's your lawyering and stalling tactics that lead to FE not knowing whether or not they had FTE legitly.

That said, turning in quest pieces on contested raid mobs when a GM specifically tells you not to is no bueno, and I hope the people that did it earn suspensions/bans if they were specifically told not to and did it anyway.

agree with this. if we were told not to turn in pieces specifically i agree, but to my knowledge that did not happen.

[maverixdamighty]

Reiterate

continually starting ct death cycles with your eye to stall. pathetic.

[Yapas]

ya they should stop counting da stalling as FTE. agree 100% that tmo had no plans of engaging the mob anytime soon and were stalling. thanks for agreeing.

worse trolling ever ahaha.

I was talking about Epic ks'ed fast turned in..

[maverixdamighty]

worse trolling ever ahaha.

I was talking about Epic ks'ed fast turned in..

were you even there? don't see you on the logs... nothing was ks'd you guys were stalling and we thought we had FTE. GMs said we didnt but we still killed the mob you guys didn't.

[Chloroform]

continually starting ct death cycles with your eye to stall. pathetic.

http://fc02.deviantart.net/fs71/f/2010/242/e/f/super_wheel_of_fortune_v_2_by_wheelgenius-d2xm1zi.jpg

here's something u can spin, and actually have a chance of winning.

[maverixdamighty]

http://fc02.deviantart.net/fs71/f/2010/242/e/f/super_wheel_of_fortune_v_2_by_wheelgenius-d2xm1zi.jpg

here's something u can spin, and actually have a chance of winning.

pretty sure we have done the majority of winning lately, nice try pat.

[Godefroi]

worse trolling ever ahaha.

I was talking about Epic ks'ed fast turned in..

http://orlyowl.tripod.com/sitebuildercontent/sitebuilderpictures/funny_owl_02.jpg

[Servellious]

worse trolling ever ahaha.

I was talking about Epic ks'ed fast turned in..

The worst thing is out pathetic and desperate your guild is becoming, i mean they even let dps monks like you in.

[Frieza_Prexus]

TMO changing to TMP to many petitions. In all of 2012 never seen a guild cry more than TMO. I love the DA stall tactics too it just shows everyone how desperate you guys are knowing you have no chance in a straight race. Keep the desperation up keep crying I use your tears on paper towels as a wet wipe to clean my ass?

DA engages/holds have been standard practice for quite some time. I suggest that you take the time to learn standard historical practices before you declare such actions to be desperate.

To do otherwise communicates ignorance of the current raid scene, and I know that you go to great lengths to maintain an educated and regal disposition.

[maverixdamighty]

DA engages/holds have been standard practice for quite some time. I suggest that you take the time to learn standard historical practices before you declare such actions to be desperate.

To do otherwise communicates ignorance of the current raid scene, and I know that you go to great lengths to maintain an educated and regal disposition.

ya and we thought we agroed him in between your stall engages. you win you had fte, congrats in having to stall mobs.

[Chloroform]

pretty sure we have done the majority of winning lately, nice try pat.

off topic i officially won this rnf battle. thank u for my victory

u sir failed.

[maverixdamighty]

off topic i officially won this rnf battle. thank u for my victory

u sir failed.

whatever you say derp.

[Chloroform]

whatever you say derp.

whos ur main?

[Yapas]

The worst thing is out pathetic and desperate your guild is becoming, i mean they even let dps monks like you in.

Oh really ? Damn I was not know :'(

:cool:

[maverixdamighty]

whos ur main?

starts with mav, derp.

[Versager]

@ TMO: You started all the shit that is going on on this server and now you cry that you have to deal with this shit.

In my real life people like you are called pussys.

Take it like a men or shut up.

Have a nice day.





Versager

[kotton05]

I cant pull maestro so I pull shit out my ass

as for the blah blah raid interfering mob went to seek mode and bodied option before you was on agro list zealot but had not reset. we just need fte shouts and thatll clear all this up. on to the next.

[Yapas]

as for the blah blah raid interfering mob went to seek mode and bodied option before you was on agro list zealot but had not reset. we just need fte shouts and thatll clear all this up. on to the next.

try again :cool:

[maverixdamighty]

try again :cool:

you weren't even there, exit stage left.

[falkun]

In other news, what main bard got his/her epic? That's a better outcome than another set of guts for TMO to put up for sale for 350k (although it sounds like TMO will get its /auction set as well, so 2x the guts for my bardic brethren!).

[Nerosys]

Multiple dummies in this thread lol.

Looting isnt a big deal... RUSHING to turn in VP keys prior to a decision being made speaks of bad behavior.

As to the 17 seconds, I am going to give you a chance to figure it out.



You guys can't even win withought crying about it... Pathetic really stop being baby back bitches.

[bluejam]

Tiggles I'm hurt that you think that's me. I haven't played on p99 in well over a year.

I am curious though, how did Szeth get unbanned? Seeing as I admitted to selling it for RMT I can't imagine it being unbanned for any legitimate reason.
Damn, I wanted to ask that. :)

[cyryllis]

http://i.imgur.com/1unHJei.gif

Just jerked it hard to these, so I'll pass them off to you now to get sloppy seconds.

[Autotune]

@ TMO: You started all the shit that is going on on this server and now you cry that you have to deal with this shit.

In my real life people like you are called pussys.

Take it like a men or shut up.

Have a nice day.





Versager

TMO didn't start the fire.

[Hailto]

I think you guys are missing the real message of this thread. It should be:

Congratulations TMO on a clean Trak kill without wiping this time.

[bluejam]

The coverup is strong with this one.. your memory isn't fuzzy, Jeremy is making shit up to make it look better. The decision was reversed far sooner than that.
Not to mention the logs were available even sooner than the final decision was made.



Words words words, blame someone else (Amelinda).

You people need to be fucking banned, not slapped on the hand and set free to keep doing shit because it's not technically "against rules".

And yes, the people with authority on the server (be them ambratos, hobby, amelinda, or Rogean) are your proverbial mommy for as long as you keep running to them to fix your ouchies.

The coddling is what's out of control. Hope FE eats some suspensions.

But what about all the forum lawyers? How will they feed their children?#



Chaining DA agro to hold FTE for 20+ seconds while your guild prepares is stalling, regardless of how it is ruled, and hopefully the GMs realize that and change it.
This was discussed heavily in 2011. It's 2013 now. Nothing has changed. Interpret that as you please.



It's about time they let people KS eachother and deal with their own poop.
Would've done this ages ago if I had been part of the staff. The time they (used to?) spent on raid disputes... ridiculous. Could've always thought of a new system once Velious is out and/or P99 v2.0 is released.

[Autotune]

The coverup is strong with this one.. your memory isn't fuzzy, Jeremy is making shit up to make it look better. The decision was reversed far sooner than that.

it wasn't a month, but it was around 2 weeks + before she overturned it. Amelinda hated being wrong about anything and didn't like to admit it or fix the mistakes she made.

[Loly Taa]

Chaining DA agro to hold FTE for 20+ seconds while your guild prepares is stalling, regardless of how it is ruled, and hopefully the GMs realize that and change it.


I know you can read, but bro- do you even math? They didn't even wait the full 18 seconds to engage. Option tags it 17 seconds after DD, and the FE idiot squad tries to claim they "Didn't know he was already engaged"

Okay, wat? Everything in lair standing under Trak and Trak running around = "ermagerd I didn't know he was engaged."


DA tanking has always been a valid strategy and everyone was fine with it, including FE- until they started losing mobs to it. I've seen Shinko and other FE try to do the same. (Though they would usually just fail miserably.)

[Tasslehofp99]

That never happened.

And for the stones and teeth yes they have been looted but FE is using this loophole* to double up on keys every 3 days if they KS us and port out before Gms can tell them no.

I've never asked for a suspension of FE for any of the other stuff they did.:

But sloan being caught with MQ on 3 characters and them abusing GM rules to dupe bard epics they deserve some punishment.

That never happened, FE don't ks bro you liar.


Maybe if you werent so busy collecting 400 gigs of fraps in an effort to ruin the game for others you coulda got fte fat boy.

[Tasslehofp99]

I know you can read, but bro- do you even math? They didn't even wait the full 18 seconds to engage. Option tags it 17 seconds after DD, and the FE idiot squad tries to claim they "Didn't know he was already engaged"

Okay, wat? Everything in lair standing under Trak and Trak running around = "ermagerd I didn't know he was engaged."


DA tanking has always been a valid strategy and everyone was fine with it, including FE- until they started losing mobs to it. I've seen Shinko and other FE try to do the same. (Though they would usually just fail miserably.)

Remember when we tried to da stall in order to position trak and zeelot peeled trak off of our monk followed by a killsteal by TMO? Gm's ruled that since no dps was on him its not an engage...

[47shadesofgay]

it wasn't a month, but it was around 2 weeks + before she overturned it. Amelinda hated being wrong about anything and didn't like to admit it or fix the mistakes she made.

Yup 2 weeks is about the correct timeline. It was also promised that the emerald was going back to TR at the time.. but oopsies it had already been turned in by then! Nothing came of it.

Loly: 17 is close enough to 20, and the intention I gather from reading into it is that DD had planned on FDing agro and Zeelot had planned on picking it up. With 2 DA timers that makes it 36 seconds I think?

Who really cares though.. be it 10, 17, 20, 25, 30, anything more than 2 or 3 is fucked up and stalling and needs to be fixed. Spin that as you may.

[Godefroi]

ITT : TMO being butthurt getting served the shit they brought to this server.

Yummies.