Blue Flower of Functionality

Tanom5 · #1 07-16-2019, 01:35 PM

I do know that the effect of the Aura of Blue Petals (Increase Magic Resist by 50) does not stack with Group Resist Magic. However, my question is whether or not it does not stack with Resist Magic as Resist Magic inherently has lower Magic Resist than Group Resist Magic?

Looking at the wiki, it only states it does not stack with Group Resist Magic and I was unsure if that would make it block the single target version as well, since White and Green do stack with like resistance buffs.

loramin · #2 07-16-2019, 01:37 PM

The following all use the "primary magic resist" buff slot (ie. they don't stack with each other):

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+55 Group Resist Magic (Group) (Enchanter 49, Cast)
+50 Aura of Blue Petals (Click: Blue Flower of Functionality)
+40 Resist Magic (Cleric 44, Druid 49 Enchanter 39, Paladin 55, Shaman 44)
+20 Endure Magic (Cleric 19, Druid 34, Enchanter 20, Paladin 30, Shaman 19)

http://wiki.project1999.com/Buff_Lines#Magic_Resistance (and just in general you can use that page to answer any stacking questions).

loramin · #3 07-16-2019, 01:44 PM

P.S. This is just my opinion, but unless you're a soloing class who can't cast resist spells, I really think the blue flower is a terrible item.

It's the most expensive item in all of Plane of Mischief (nothing else requires four thrones). If you can cast Resist Magic (which most soloing classes can) the flower only nets +10 more MR ... when soloing (presumably in a raid, or a group where it matters, you'd get Group Resist Magic, which is better than the flower).

If you're a Bard, Monk, Mage, Shadow Knight, Necromancer, or Wizard who regularly solos stuff that casts, it might be worth getting ... but for everyone else it's just an expensive status symbol.

Tanom5 · #4 07-16-2019, 01:47 PM

Thank you!

Baylan295 · #5 07-16-2019, 01:50 PM

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Originally Posted by loramin [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

P.S. This is just my opinion, but unless you're a soloing class who can't cast resist spells, I really think the blue flower is a terrible item.

It's the most expensive item in all of Plane of Mischief (nothing else requires four thrones). If you can cast Resist Magic (which most soloing classes can) the flower only nets +10 more MR ... when soloing (presumably in a raid, or a group where it matters, you'd get Group Resist Magic, which is better than the flower).

If you're a Bard, Monk, Mage, Shadow Knight, Necromancer, or Wizard who regularly solos stuff that casts, it might be worth getting ... but for everyone else it's just an expensive status symbol.

Getting GRM can be a pain in a raid situation because you need to be grouped and around an Enchanter. While easy, it is not always quick.

Everyone I know with a blue flower loves it.

Jibartik · #6 07-16-2019, 02:23 PM

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Originally Posted by loramin [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

P.S. This is just my opinion, but unless you're a soloing class who can't cast resist spells, I really think the blue flower is a terrible item.

It's the most expensive item in all of Plane of Mischief (nothing else requires four thrones). If you can cast Resist Magic (which most soloing classes can) the flower only nets +10 more MR ... when soloing (presumably in a raid, or a group where it matters, you'd get Group Resist Magic, which is better than the flower).

If you're a Bard, Monk, Mage, Shadow Knight, Necromancer, or Wizard who regularly solos stuff that casts, it might be worth getting ... but for everyone else it's just an expensive status symbol.

This is like the first time I think I've seen you have an opinion about something lol usually its just data on the wiki you post about lol

Nice to see you have feelings loramin. Also wow to that buff lines page, who wrote all that? You? Good lord. Very informative but wow. Very complete [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

And wow yeah that blue flower sounds like a waste of monies compared to some others :/

loramin · #7 07-16-2019, 03:23 PM

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Also wow to that buff lines page, who wrote all that? You? Good lord. Very informative but wow. Very complete [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I swear, I started the page just because a guildie asked a stacking question in guild chat, and I thought "the wiki doesn't have a stacking page yet? How hard could that be to add?" ... little did I know.

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This is like the first time I think I've seen you have an opinion about something lol usually its just data on the wiki you post about lol

Nice to see you have feelings loramin.

Yup, blue flowers, focusing on leveling over gear, and ~~rotations~~ making EQ content available to the masses: that's pretty much all I have strong opinions on [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.] And I get a lot less "hate mail" when I express the first two.

Psyborg · #8 07-16-2019, 02:41 PM

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Originally Posted by loramin [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

P.S. This is just my opinion, but unless you're a soloing class who can't cast resist spells, I really think the blue flower is a terrible item.

It's the most expensive item in all of Plane of Mischief (nothing else requires four thrones). If you can cast Resist Magic (which most soloing classes can) the flower only nets +10 more MR ... when soloing (presumably in a raid, or a group where it matters, you'd get Group Resist Magic, which is better than the flower).

If you're a Bard, Monk, Mage, Shadow Knight, Necromancer, or Wizard who regularly solos stuff that casts, it might be worth getting ... but for everyone else it's just an expensive status symbol.

I have to reiterate and agree with what was already said: getting MR in a raid can sometimes be a pain in the ass. I can't think of many better ways to spend 120k on a raid tier level 60 after the more obvious needs are taken care of.

loramin · #9 07-16-2019, 03:21 PM

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I have to reiterate and agree with what was already said: getting MR in a raid can sometimes be a pain in the ass. I can't think of many better ways to spend 120k on a raid tier level 60 after the more obvious needs are taken care of.

I guess it depends on your Enchanters'/guilds' tolerance for playing the "group buff dance".

I do have good news to report on that front though: by September Blue will have /targetgroupbuff [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

(It's in one of the last pre-Luclin patches ... I want to say it's in the other part of Chardok 2.0, but I'm not certain.)

Psyborg · #10 07-16-2019, 03:31 PM

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I guess it depends on your Enchanters'/guilds' tolerance for playing the "group buff dance".

I do have good news to report on that front though: by September Blue will have /targetgroupbuff [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

(It's in one of the last pre-Luclin patches ... I want to say it's in the other part of Chardok 2.0, but I'm not certain.)

So is it guaranteed that they are implementing all of that pre-luclin stuff or just assumed? I'm not abreast on all of that.