AoE Spells

[Darklake]

I'm trying to remember, didn't AoE spells originally used to hit everything in the area but was then nerfed to be up to 4 targets? If so, at what point was it nerfed?

[Estu]

I don't know about the history, but I'd like to point out that there are still a few AOE spells that hit everything (the ones that come to mind are the wizard Al'Kabor spiral spells). I at first thought these spells were just stupid useless spells because they have such a horrible damage/mana ratio, but then realized that they hit all monsters in range, not just "several".

[Tetrian]

Depends on the type of AE spells.

Most Targeted AE spells where up to 4 targets - Examples, would be the druid lightning line, and the wizard equalents - in short, the quadding spells and similar [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Rain spells where 4 targets pr wave(3 waves).

PBAE Spells unlimited amount of targets. Same goes for most of the non damaging AE spells, druid blind(god i loved that one during arena events, you could hit an entire event with it.), harmony, mezmerisation (still broke here and limited to 4 tgts - i hate you for it), where all unlimited on live.

[Dr4z3r]

Chords and Denon's (lvl 2 & 18 bard songs) have no limit to how many mobs they can hit that I've ever noticed. Of course, there is the ever-increasing probability of crashing your client, but that's another thread.

[Messianic]

Originally Posted by Tetrian [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

harmony, mezmerisation (still broke here and limited to 4 tgts - i hate you for it), where all unlimited on live.

I think it's broken for nearly all AE spells - I noticed that my Al'Kabor spells weren't hitting more than 4 targets. That must be why. Time to do some bug reporting...

[M.Bison]

I know my Hierophant's Crook hits unlimited targets for sure.

[Messianic]

Originally Posted by M.Bison [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I know my Hierophant's Crook hits unlimited targets for sure.

The pic in your sig is really disproportional.

MY BICEP IS AS BIG AS MY HEAD RAWR IM FAT

[Mee123]

Originally Posted by Tetrian [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

mezmerisation (still broke here and limited to 4 tgts - i hate you for it), where all unlimited on live.

No, it was 4 targets on live, not unlimited.

edit - Also, AE = Area Effect = Unlimited mobs within xmeters of you AoE = Area of Effect = 4 monsters within x meters of what you cast spell on

[M.Bison]

Originally Posted by Mee123 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

No, it was 4 targets on live, not unlimited.

edit - Also, AE = Area Effect = Unlimited mobs within xmeters of you AoE = Area of Effect = 4 monsters within x meters of what you cast spell on

PBAoE - Point blank area of effect - usually unlimited targets localized around the caster.
AoE - Area of effect - usually 4 targets at a distance.

not sure on rain spells, ive never really used them. Although i do know if you used a rain on live at point blank range it would also hit the caster (i did play on rallos though, so the pvp flag might have played a role in that) So i imagine rain spells are in the AoE classification.

[Tetrian]

Referencing mezmerisation,

Originally Posted by Mee123 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

No, it was 4 targets on live, not unlimited.

edit - Also, AE = Area Effect = Unlimited mobs within xmeters of you AoE = Area of Effect = 4 monsters within x meters of what you cast spell on

I'm a 100% on Mezmerisation being unlimited on targets - I used to keep it memmed to pop it on huge trains as a last ditch effort and for stacking up mobs for AE groups, which is pointless with a 4 target max due to mana effeciency being better on single targets and time contra safety would be a non issue.

It was basicly a holy fuck, pray this works button - sometimes it would, and you would sit with a big fat grin on your face feeling like a god.

The issue with it was, got unlucky on ressists.. you went down like a bitch - The more mobs stacked up, the higher the chance of that happening. Also, if you hit yourself with it (which i also did a few times) its basicly goodbye since the dudes breaking your trance would be the plenty, and pissed.

It was a tool in the box, that sometimes worked. In the end it balanced itself out, since chanter stupidity and luck usually worked against you [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Been trying to look on old chanter forums for further evidence, but only thread i've been able to find, that referenced its effect involves a bit of random chattery, and a single vague reference that mentions 20 mobs being mezzed by it during a raid.