This is retarded

[Ikonoclastia]

Originally Posted by Lisset [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

It was classic. I remember doing tons of AE on live, particularly in the Hole. Having a faulty memory and pulling out random patch notes doesn't make you right.

The hole was not Kunark with its aggro rules and pet pulling zonewide was impossible. The evidence I linked is outright proof that it was not classic and never could have been done in classic EQ.

Theres around 20 different posts from multiple sources, as well as Sony documentation in there that shows that the 180+ mob rubbish in Chardok on here was impossible on live.

That's also disregarding the resist issues: (2002 Luclin Era)

Chardok -- lots of resists and stuns, unmanageable past 20 unless you stick to the entrance, but then you can't find more than 15 mobs anyway.

http://www.graffe.com/forums/showthr...u-AOE-group-at

[Tewaz]

Even if they nerf the pull leashing, the groups will just pull to a more central location.

[Ikonoclastia]

Originally Posted by Tewaz [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Even if they nerf the pull leashing, the groups will just pull to a more central location.

Pulling to a central location is fine. That's how you aoe'd Chardok in the day. In stages. Was doing a bit more research, I think this thread if you read it pretty much explains a lot.

This is probably the best part of the thread as it gives a general idea of the chase range in Chardok:

Quote:Hmm last time I tried to pull him to zone he ended up warping back to his room like a tethered mob.

He's a kunark mob so he works in the same fashion as all kunark mobs: if you outrun them, they run away from you and end up back at their spawn point until you get within "range" again. Generally the range is a few dozen feet out of casting range, so you have to be sure it stays within that distance the whole way up (z-axis ignored).

Thread is here => http://www.thesafehouse.org/forums/s...ead.php?t=3782

[HeallunRumblebelly]

Originally Posted by Ikonoclastia [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Pulling to a central location is fine. That's how you aoe'd Chardok in the day. In stages. Was doing a bit more research, I think this thread if you read it pretty much explains a lot.

This is probably the best part of the thread as it gives a general idea of the chase range in Chardok:



Thread is here => http://www.thesafehouse.org/forums/s...ead.php?t=3782

And the only reason you could pull those is because casters couldn't finish their casts without LOS and a reasonable distance (just slightly farther then initial cast range). If it would come with this change, I'd gladly have it come. But we've been dealing with that shit for a long, long time now.

[mrmop520]

Originally Posted by HeallunRumblebelly [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

And the only reason you could pull those is because casters couldn't finish their casts without LOS and a reasonable distance (just slightly farther then initial cast range). If it would come with this change, I'd gladly have it come. But we've been dealing with that shit for a long, long time now.

Monks would rejoice at this being fixed lol

[Gaffin 7.0]

you can honestly AE anywhere, ive done it in seb, even though I personally think its redic people level so fast and easy and agree with you, let them keep it in chardok instead of other zones. who the fuck really goes there anyway, its got decent loot but horrible pathing.

[HeallunRumblebelly]

Originally Posted by mrmop520 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Monks would rejoice at this being fixed lol

Bard kiters, too. Suddenly fear becomes pathetically easy to kite :P

[Swish]

used to duo in chardok (ench/cleric) before the masses came and got mad at people wanting to spoil their party.

[Overthrow]

I know for a fact, Triton from Povar , was AEing shit before Luclin. There is even old pictures of them posted up AEing over 60+ mobs in end-game zones around luclin release. It is more of common knowledge now, which is why it is bigger on P99. The only people doing it back in the 99-2003 days were top guilds. Monks and different classes can do the AE pulls, so the /petattack command, even though isn't classic, it can still be done without one.

[Ikonoclastia]

Originally Posted by Overthrow [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I know for a fact, Triton from Povar , was AEing shit before Luclin. There is even old pictures of them posted up AEing over 60+ mobs in end-game zones around luclin release. It is more of common knowledge now, which is why it is bigger on P99. The only people doing it back in the 99-2003 days were top guilds. Monks and different classes can do the AE pulls, so the /petattack command, even though isn't classic, it can still be done without one.

No one is saying aoe wasn't a thing. It was, but you could not pull 180+ mobs in Chardok unless you somehow could manage to pull them, walk them up to the entrance while they're beating on you and then aoe them.

Like it explains in the thread I linked, if you ran away and waited for the mobs to come they wouldn't come, because if you got too far ahead they'd go back to spawn point.

You definitely couldn't be at the entrance, with your pet down deep in Chardok and hit pet attack (because pets only followed commands if they were in /say range) and even if you could have given you were so far away the mob would kill your pet, realise you were much farther than it was willing to chase you and then it'd do nothing at all except add you to its hate list.

Has nothing to do with magical hindsight.