This is retarded

[Ikonoclastia]

Originally Posted by botrainer [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

It bothers me that you cant rarely find a needed class, or when you find your needed class level 57/58 just takes off you because oh dudes Ive been called to do Chardok AOE peace....It was very annoying always trying replace clerics, and chanters because chardok AOE would say hey want afk exp?

Id like this looked at and possibly done as a way to clear to royals or something but not as a form of a quick hit to 60. If you look at the history of EQ, any form of quick hitting for exps was always nerfed, and nerfed hard. AoE was something of an idea for a raid to use time to time. and it was treated as such. Earthshaker pulling during the lvl 70/75 era of EQ Was nerfed when people were mastering 200 to 300 mob pulls from 2 earthshaker carring warriors in the Hive instances...(I know because I was one of them players who had 2 earthshakers)

Same. If you get to 60 it should be the same way everyone in classic EQ got there. Not sitting afk and skipping 2/3rds of the leveling by exploiting missing mechanics.

Sure there will be some people pufs that don't like it but they can always go play WoW.

[Vyal]

It wasn't impossible to do...
Not only did we use to AoE Dok on live but CoM, Seb, and Guk.

And I have personally done it in all those zones plus skyfire, burning woods, droga, fear, hate, solb and sola on this server and probably more zones if I thought about it longer.

Some of the mechanics and pathing is actually incorrect here but it's more to the benefit of the players so ya they did a really great job at keeping things classic here but at the same time either intentionally or unintentionally limiting the number of zones people can effectively aoe.

[Ikonoclastia]

Originally Posted by Vyal [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

It wasn't impossible to do...
Not only did we use to AoE Dok on live but CoM, Seb, and Guk.

And I have personally done it in all those zones plus skyfire, burning woods, droga, fear, hate, solb and sola on this server and probably more zones if I thought about it longer.

Some of the mechanics and pathing is actually incorrect here but it's more to the benefit of the players so ya they did a really great job at keeping things classic here but at the same time either intentionally or unintentionally limiting the number of zones people can effectively aoe.

Proof? I recall, I remember, etc etc means nothing. I have provided a shit ton of proof it was not possible to aoe the way Chardok is being aoe'd.

I have found no evidence, no posts, no video's, not anything of classic AoE of 100 to 180+ mobs in Chardok and lots of evidence to show it was not possible.

If people were able to do it it would have been posted (and nerfed soon after) but it was never posted and there is no evidence.

Normal AoE sure. The majority of mobs in Chardok. Nope.

[Vyal]

Originally Posted by Ikonoclastia [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Proof? I recall, I remember, etc etc means nothing. I have provided a shit ton of proof it was not possible to aoe the way Chardok is being aoe'd.

I have found no evidence, no posts, no video's, not anything of classic AoE of 100 to 180+ mobs in Chardok and lots of evidence to show it was not possible.

If people were able to do it it would have been posted (and nerfed soon after) but it was never posted and there is no evidence.

Normal AoE sure. The majority of mobs in Chardok. Nope.

I did it and never posted videos of it, one because there was not really any software to do it and my pc couldn't handle it. We didn't pull 180 mobs... no way but thats because of connection and pc limits in those days but I know for a fact it would have been doable.

Thats the reason people didn't do it then - hardware / software / and connection...
180 mobs would have blown up my pc back then we had to keep the pulls smaller.

Your not taking into account we have been doing this for years and know exactly where every single mob spawns the exact time every mob spawns the route they take and how long it takes each mob to get to a certain point.

If you ever get a chance to check out Chardok you should stop in with your 2010ish era pc and tell me you don't drop FPS big time looking at 180 mobs getting smoked by 8 people.

[Bboboo]

Originally Posted by Tasslehofp99 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I'm pretty sure the shitty ass computers and connections most people had on live is what really made AE groups impossible, though.

Isn't this the same reason for Bard AoE Kiting?

[Tasslehofp99]

Originally Posted by Bboboo [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Isn't this the same reason for Bard AoE Kiting?

tbh, I don't even remember bards using PBAoE kiting to level on live.


The bards I knew did something called "Swarm kiting" which involved charming mobs in a pack of other mobs that would social onto the charmed mob and beat it down to low health in 1 second. The bard would just break charm with gazughi ring before mob died and charm a new one, repeating this until all the mobs were low enough health that he could finish them with an AE.

It was pretty baller, but I remember if you stared into your "Swarm" for too long your computer would usually lag out so bad that you'd get facefucked.

[sulpher01]

Originally Posted by Tasslehofp99 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

tbh, I don't even remember bards using PBAoE kiting to level on live.


The bards I knew did something called "Swarm kiting" which involved charming mobs in a pack of other mobs that would social onto the charmed mob and beat it down to low health in 1 second. The bard would just break charm with gazughi ring before mob died and charm a new one, repeating this until all the mobs were low enough health that he could finish them with an AE.

It was pretty baller, but I remember if you stared into your "Swarm" for too long your computer would usually lag out so bad that you'd get facefucked.

God I miss this... could pull every spider in velks and do this all day. [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

[sulpher01]

Thing is, we had to deal with the leashing problem in fungus grove and it never stopped the AE groups... just slows down the pulling.

[Bboboo]

Originally Posted by Tasslehofp99 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The bards I knew did something called "Swarm kiting" which involved charming mobs in a pack of other mobs that would social onto the charmed mob and beat it down to low health in 1 second. The bard would just break charm with gazughi ring before mob died and charm a new one, repeating this until all the mobs were low enough health that he could finish them with an AE.

I actually saw a Bard doing this the other day in DL and had no idea what he was doing. Pretty cool.

[zanderklocke]

Originally Posted by Tasslehofp99 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

tbh, I don't even remember bards using PBAoE kiting to level on live.


The bards I knew did something called "Swarm kiting" which involved charming mobs in a pack of other mobs that would social onto the charmed mob and beat it down to low health in 1 second. The bard would just break charm with gazughi ring before mob died and charm a new one, repeating this until all the mobs were low enough health that he could finish them with an AE.

It was pretty baller, but I remember if you stared into your "Swarm" for too long your computer would usually lag out so bad that you'd get facefucked.

For some reason everyone on this server uses AoE kiting and "swarm kiting" interchangeable. As a language nut, I'm glad you posted this.