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Old 07-23-2013, 03:57 PM
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I can't stun a guy for 16 fucking seconds, this game is ruined! [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]
Maybe read my other posts in this thread where I overall agree on the fact it needed a nerf, and to be honest it IS a step in the right direction, I just think it's an over-nerf since PVE stun is almost non-existant, unless we are all wrong. Random 3-12s was live, and hell, even a flat 6 seconds would be fine. 1-2s is a beatdown.

I am curious to see what exactly the "PVE stun" code is. Looks like nilbog is on the case.
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Old 07-23-2013, 03:44 PM
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Shutup dude.

A lot of us liked vztz pvp mechanics more than r99 pvp mechanics, because there was actual balance.
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Old 07-23-2013, 03:58 PM
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Shutup dude.

A lot of us liked vztz pvp mechanics more than r99 pvp mechanics, because there was actual balance.
And VZTZ was a bug ridden mess that I don't think ever saw 600 players.

This server had that many on opening night.

A lot of you want another 60 pop VZTZ with boxing where one guild griefs off all the new players and you've bitched about the mechanics till they suit your liking.

Shit needs to be classic.

Come @ me in RNF bro, stay out of Big Nilberg's great thread.
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Old 07-23-2013, 04:42 PM
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And VZTZ was a bug ridden mess that I don't think ever saw 600 players.

This server had that many on opening night.

A lot of you want another 60 pop VZTZ with boxing where one guild griefs off all the new players and you've bitched about the mechanics till they suit your liking.

Shit needs to be classic.

Come @ me in RNF bro, stay out of Big Nilberg's great thread.
This thread is about stuns and im talking about stuns. If you wanna flame go ahead in rnf, im not going to argue.

The main strat in all large pvp is tsaff.


This is a problem. Sorry you dont see it nirgon. Vztz nerfed problems like that for balance. Vztz being unstable is due to the instability of stock emu.
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Old 07-23-2013, 06:09 PM
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Not sure where everyone is getting the idea that the PVE version of the tstaff stun, doesn't actually stun. This is in fact absolutely false, it definitely stuns, the problem is that the server tick timer is always running, so most of the time it will last less than 3 seconds, which is in fact the same timer as mob delay. I have seen many times a mob get procced that is below level 55 and have it stunned for 8-10 seconds. it's just rare/random.
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Old 07-23-2013, 02:18 PM
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Should prolly fix mez while your at it
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Old 07-23-2013, 02:35 PM
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Good to remember that one Runya, I agree. That is a much higher priority.

If you ask the people who did play on RZ, they'd tell you that the system there was fine and that's most likely the reason they came here.

Verant did this the right way, no need to reinvent the wheel.

Gong, trust me, I think it needed more investigation before this fix went in but its a step away from the problem that existed before. I was more offended by how the Skean was nearly unresistable here more than anything.
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Old 07-23-2013, 06:08 PM
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I was more offended by how the Skean was nearly unresistable here more than anything.
I disagree, not only is the proc rate absurdly low...but against Nihilum in mass pvp it will land maybe 1 every 5 procs. Which is still a lot more than it was on live. Regardless the fixed stun duration needed to be fixed.
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Old 07-23-2013, 03:06 PM
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im pretty sure that whoever made this change wasnt aware that pve stun meant no stun

all this incessant bitching just gonna hardcore turn off nilbog and any other dev from wanting to looking into any other problems
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Old 07-23-2013, 03:11 PM
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im pretty sure that whoever made this change wasnt aware that pve stun meant no stun

all this incessant bitching just gonna hardcore turn off nilbog and any other dev from wanting to looking into any other problems
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