Stuns from Tranquil Staff and Trochilic's Skean

[nilbog]

I have seen these stuns mentioned in various places. I am willing to look into changing it, depending...

Is it actually wrong? The tstaff for example.. I did some quick googling.

Results came back as unresistable 18 second stun. Am I missing something, or are you asking for a custom nerf? Being that it influences pvp gameplay, that is not out of the question, but I need to know whats going on with this.

Skean - Explain.

[Colgate]

both of them were random duration stuns, not set 18 seconds every single time

same with windstriker(although windstriker is 12 seconds not 18)

skean was also very resistable on live; not very resistable here

tstaff was also insanely fucking rare on live(way more rare than it is on this server); hardly anyone had them, but on this server half the monks have them

[Knuckle]

Originally Posted by Colgate [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

both of them were random duration stuns, not set 18 seconds every single time

same with windstriker(although windstriker is 12 seconds not 18)

skean was also very resistable on live; not very resistable here

tstaff was also insanely fucking rare on live(way more rare than it is on this server); hardly anyone had them, but on this server half the monks have them

the skean's resistability would be based on our current spell resist system, perhaps its time to take a hard look at why spells are landing so well on players with high resist levels?

[Colgate]

also tstaff seems to be proccing more than any other weapon, and i'm pretty sure there's something broken about weapon procs in general that makes first hits on a target more likely to have a proc than it should

first hit tstaff proc is strangely commonplace

[Infectious]

http://web.archive.org/web/200308030....html?item=572

Most posts say it was 12 seconds not 18 and random. Just scroll down and check posts from our era.

[Seary]

Will these be changed sooner than the 18 months it took for you to implement the blue diamond changes? Serious question...

[nilbog]

Originally Posted by Seary [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Will these be changed sooner than the 18 months it took for you to implement the blue diamond changes? Serious question...

Serious answer. The mechanics necessary for blue diamonds took nearly that long. And I'm not referring to blue diamonds dropping in kunark; they should drop. Items on corpses, banks, bags etc are way more complicated.. and now we can modify them by era.

Back on topic. OP.

[heartbrand]

t-staff game breaking much like no range for end of cast pillars / unresistable high sun / mezzes not working 55+ / mage bolts / earth pet root and MR in general

[nilbog]

Originally Posted by heartbrand [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

t-staff game breaking much like no range for end of cast pillars / unresistable high sun / mezzes not working 55+ / mage bolts / earth pet root and MR in general

Didn't read. Stay on topic.

[juicedsixfo]

Originally Posted by nilbog [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Am I missing something, or are you asking for a custom nerf? Being that it influences pvp gameplay, that is not out of the question, but I need to know whats going on with this.

Thank you for having an open mindset on this. I think sometimes people override common sense with "SHITS CLASSIC;" and tstaff is definitely a huge issue. "SHITS CLASSIC" has basically morphed in to "there's no use complaining about it because it ain't gettin' fixed." So again, it's nice to see you guys around and interested.

Maybe one day y'all will tackle/ask for feedback on other obviously broken PvP mechanics like spells that have no range or line of sight check, mage bolts, earth pet, et cetera. But hey, it's a start!