A regular and casual raiding day on P99.

[maverixdamighty]

Originally Posted by Enslaved [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I agree with you.


Here is where you become a fucking shill for the establishment. FTE is Classic and Variance is not. WHERE THE FUCK DO YOU GET THE COHONES to gainsay this?? Did you even fucking play EverQuest in The Year 2000?!

the version of FTE we have here is not classic at all from my experience. there is no way a GM on live would give raid loot to a single person who just hit the mob first then did nothing else.

[Cecily]

Originally Posted by maverixdamighty [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

the version of FTE we have here is not classic at all from my experience. there is no way a GM on live would give raid loot to a single person who just hit the mob first then did nothing else.

Those GMs were also... paid.

[Strifer]

Originally Posted by Enslaved [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Here is where you become a fucking shill for the establishment. FTE is Classic and Variance is not. WHERE THE FUCK DO YOU GET THE COHONES to gainsay this?? Did you even fucking play EverQuest in The Year 2000?!

Comparing gm rules then and now is moot due to the fact that 13 years ago we didn't have an entire endgame of folks who knew exactly what to do all the time, nor were raid mobs on lockdown nearly as much as they could be now. We all played in the year 2000, but if you want to go there 2000 didn't last for the 2-3 years we have been on Kunark.

If anything you should be thankful the staff is trying to implement ways to help everyone get a shot at something.

Take your rant to RnF where you can drink all the haterade you want to quench your thirst after downing so many hater tots.

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[HallygukRZ]

Been following this discussion as I've started it. And sorry, that was not meant to be a GM discussion. Classic, not classic, GM whatever.

All I wanted to hint at is that the p99 raiding experience could be much better if there was honest and direct communication between all parties involved. Like adults, you know [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

[Yardcore]

What i got from this,

Got leap frog, by the big guild. "Unwanted Loots" were given for damage control/PR, due to "... oh sorry I trained you."

[Apeople]

Originally Posted by Sirken [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

the trainer will be suspended and the training guild will not be allowed to contest that mob next time it spawns. if they do not adhere to that punishment, or if that punishment is not effective, then the guild as a whole should expect a raid suspension.

So... since TMO admitted in this post to having trained can they therefore not attempt the next inny spawn?

[stonez138]

Originally Posted by Ele [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Ask him yourself if it will make you happy, the GMs have seen and know about at least 3 different guilds pulling Innoruuk/Maestro to zone in

Why is it that TMO can pull Maestro and 20+ mobs to zone in WHEN THEY KNOW another guild is there, effictively training/wiping the other guild while they just kill Maestro and log? How is that not intentional training?

[Ele]

Originally Posted by stonez138 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Why is it that TMO can pull Maestro and 20+ mobs to zone in WHEN THEY KNOW another guild is there, effictively training/wiping the other guild while they just kill Maestro and log? How is that not intentional training?

"intentional" requires intent to train. Accidents happen, bad pulls happen, the streams get crossed.

[getsome]

Being reckless is not accidental.

[Ele]

Originally Posted by getsome [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Being reckless is not accidental.

intentional > knowing > reckless > negligent

way down there on the culpability scale

but we can't forget about strict liability!