A regular and casual raiding day on P99.

HallygukRZ · #1 05-30-2013, 10:14 AM

Disclaimer: This post has not been created to stir drama or point finger at anyone.
My only aim is to _maybe_ have a few people pause and think about how you play a videogame and how it impacts other people.

3PM CET: We hear that Naggy is up and move with a small team of 7 <Europa> guildies to SolB and start clearing to Naggy. Meanwhile 20 members of <The Mystical Order> have zoned in, while we wipe on some FG train (haha, newbs!). We then thought well, you made the race grats! Before gating out we askIvandyrs/Zeelott if we might stay and join the fight, ofc just for the fun. He said "why not, hell yeah" and together we slay the dragon. For some of us this has been a 1st-timer! Ivandyrs was kind enough to even offer us to loot the katana. 7 very happy members of Europa, thanks!

8 PM CET: I'm leading 20 Europa members to port up into Hate and we start our weekly raid fun.
We notice one TMO rogue being there and guessed that Inny was in window. Anyhow, we play like pros and get some nice loots.

10 PM CET: Our tracker says "Hey guys, I think Inny just spawned.. FO REAL". By then TMO and FE members already pile up at WC wiz spire and one of our officers talks to a FE officer and they say:
"Hey, let's have Europa have a shot at Inny. They never did it." Cool move, we think! Although we probably would have wiped anyway...

10:20 PM CET: Inny starts shouting and 20-25 TMO members engage him somewhere. Our raid is camped in church. After we see the numbers dropping, 3-4 minutes, we get Inny and 10+ adds on our raid - wiping us, including clerics.

10:40 PM CET: Inny is killed by TMO. Our members are all dead, 20 minutes of nothing. I contact Eccezan and ask what just happened and why he thought training our raid was a good idea. He apologized and said they had a train themselves and offered to rezz everyone of us at zone in and that we could have 2 loots (clr hammer and enc 1hb) as they don't need it. Aalpha and Flemming dragged and rezzed our corpses.

23:10 PM CET: We can continue to clear some more Hate.
Unfortunately quite a few people have to log as it's late (we are mostly european)
and some of our members have a sour taste left, that someone would do what just happened.

In the end, it all depends on how you want to play the game.
And how you want to be perceived by others.

Uggme · #2 05-30-2013, 10:21 AM

Is there ever any reason for Inny to leave his little room? It just seems odd to me how it appears there is at least one train during every raid.

Tiggles · #3 05-30-2013, 10:25 AM

Sorry about that train again guys, Inny is such a shit show.

It won't happen again when they fix invis pulling.

Strifer · #4 05-30-2013, 10:33 AM

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Tecmos Deception · #5 05-30-2013, 10:34 AM

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falkun · #6 05-30-2013, 10:43 AM

So FE lets Europa have a shot at Inny and TMO still manages to train Europa without FE in zone? Somewhere there is a disconnect. I don't understand why TMO would need to train when FE isn't competing. If Europa had already moved to church, TMO should have been able to engage Inny upstairs with fewer than 10 adds.

Between FE letting Europa have a shot at Inny, TMO unleashing a train in Hate, and Europa being at Church, something in this story is wrong or should/did not happen.

maverixdamighty · #7 05-30-2013, 10:47 AM

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So FE lets Europa have a shot at Inny and TMO still manages to train Europa without FE in zone? Somewhere there is a disconnect. I don't understand why TMO would need to train when FE isn't competing. If Europa had already moved to church, TMO should have been able to engage Inny upstairs with fewer than 10 adds.

Between FE letting Europa have a shot at Inny, TMO unleashing a train in Hate, and Europa being at Church, something in this story is wrong or should/did not happen.

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HallygukRZ · #8 05-30-2013, 10:55 AM

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So FE lets Europa have a shot at Inny and TMO still manages to train Europa without FE in zone? Somewhere there is a disconnect. I don't understand why TMO would need to train when FE isn't competing. If Europa had already moved to church, TMO should have been able to engage Inny upstairs with fewer than 10 adds.

Between FE letting Europa have a shot at Inny, TMO unleashing a train in Hate, and Europa being at Church, something in this story is wrong or should/did not happen.

Just to clarify: We were not really prepared to face Inny but would have tried (after clearing to him), which probably would have taken us an hour [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Ele · #9 05-30-2013, 10:56 AM

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I thought Innoruuk (and CT) was supposed to be engaged and killed at his spawn point, as per Ambrotos. There was no movement of him allowed.

Which really caters to the massguilds but I find it interesting they are able to just ignore any rule at will, even ones that directly favor them.

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Tecmos Deception · #10 05-30-2013, 10:58 AM

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together we slay the dragon. For some of us this has been a 1st-timer! Ivandyrs was kind enough to even offer us to loot the katana. 7 very happy members of Europa, thanks!

...

Anyhow, we play like pros and get some nice loots.

...

"Hey, let's have Europa have a shot at Inny. They never did it." Cool move, we think! Although we probably would have wiped anyway

...

we get Inny and 10+ adds on our raid - wiping us, including clerics.

...

[Eccezan] apologized and said they had a train themselves and offered to rezz everyone of us at zone in and that we could have 2 loots (clr hammer and enc 1hb) as they don't need it. Aalpha and Flemming dragged and rezzed our corpses.

...

and some of our members have a sour taste left, that someone would do what just happened.

...

In the end, it all depends on how you want to play the game.
And how you want to be perceived by others.

So you guys get to fight naggy, have fun doing it, and get loot. Then you guys do hate, have fun doing it, and get loot. Then one of the two raid guilds wants to let you guys attempt inny (you wouldn't have wiped on a single-pull of Inny, he's a wimp), but TMO engages him first and somehow trains you guys. But then TMO rezzes you guys all up and lets you have the Inny loots.

Where in that day of casual raiding was there cause for any of your members to be upset about anything at all? Why are you talking in this indirect "Hey so-and-so, stop being jerks" tone when there are only examples of people being NICE in the entire story you told?

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