Alternative to xp loss to prevent bind rushing

[Tombom]

welcome to eq oldfish =/

[oldfish]

Originally Posted by Tombom [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

welcome to eq oldfish =/

Hmmm? Im a Rallos vet

[vinx]

Originally Posted by oldfish [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Why?

Why should we deter players from attempting to get back their XP spot after getting engaged by hostiles?

Why should players run away, log off, go baking, at the first sign of trouble on a pvp server?

This is all covered in the LnS thread

LnS = dont come back till we done here, we killed you once and want to continue farming/expin this area...one less person to worry about/watch our backs from

It prevents bind rushers and people who dont respect the LnS rules with xp loss

[Kain]

Yeah was thinking the same as you oldfish. In fact, I'd request you stop reading my thoughts and saying stuff before I say them.

Edit: Wait, so Vinx were just supposed to leave our corpses and really log off?

[oldfish]

Originally Posted by vinx [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

This is all covered in the LnS thread

LnS = dont come back till we done here, we killed you once and want to continue farming/expin this area...one less person to worry about/watch our backs from

It prevents bind rushers and people who dont respect the LnS rules with xp loss

First of all, whats this "bind rush" thing? You cant bind rush with low health or mana, nor can you do this on a melee character without your gear/health.

It takes me about 8 minutes on a naked LVL12 wiz IIRC to go from death health/mana bars to full. How is that rushing?

That seems awfully carebear to me, this "bindrush" speak. I would keep that stuff for msging GMs on blue that someone stole your camp. It seems just another way to ensure that powerful guilds get access to the best shit EZ mode style.

[vinx]

Originally Posted by oldfish [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I dont see this happening with XP loss. I really want a healthy population and red99 to grow. Again, not seeing it happen with XP loss. Just some lulz for big guilds for a while, and then they get bored as well and leave because theres no one to pvp.

I think the whole idea of this server is so we dont have the poopsock fest and problems that we have on P99
being true to EQlive PVP is eh, in the spirit of things.
but moreso, so that players can solve some of the disputes on their own

= the reason for the xp loss

[Lulz Sect]

i die all the fucking time - xp loss from pvp is fair

[vinx]

Originally Posted by Kain [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Edit: Wait, so Vinx were just supposed to leave our corpses and really log off?

well if you only play once a month it could be a problem in a few years when you finally have gear worth saving

[oldfish]

Originally Posted by vinx [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I think the whole idea of this server is so we dont have the poopsock fest and problems that we have on P99
being true to EQlive PVP is eh, in the spirit of things.
but moreso, so that players can solve some of the disputes on their own

= the reason for the xp loss

How is XP loss even related to solving disputes, disputes got resolved through pvp all the time on Rallos without XP loss.

Its just starting to dawn on me that XP loss is going to be just an EZ mode for big guilds to dominate the server where they force people to stop trying to PVP them by crushing opposition with overwhelming odds leading to XP loss.

I might be wrong but thats how i see it right now.

[Softcore PK]

LnS - Loot and Scoot. Emphasis on the scoot in this thread.. lol.

EDIT: And lns isn't a huge advantage for the big guys over the little guys. What you, oldfish, are saying does not make a whole lot of sense. If the smaller guild can bindrush back to where the big guild is, what's stopping the big guild from doing the same on the rare occasion they lose?

With an lns system, when the smaller guild does manage to defeat the bigger guild, the bigger guild has to get their stuff and leave. Gear and numbers are always going to be a plus in these fights, but I really don't think lns gives an advantage to either side. It's simple: whoever wins the fight the first time gets the camp/boss/whatever.