Casters vs Melee THE TRUTH (SCREENSHOTS + INFO)

[Lovely]

Originally Posted by MakeYouMad View Post
Casters are going to insta gib people, just because you can't solo an ogre SK with your wizard doesn't mean anything. Let's not forget that pure melee won't even see the caster coming with no see invis item. Half the time you'll probably be standing there fighting an NPC then a wizard de-cloaks behind you and you instantly explode.

Originally Posted by Doors [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

This is probably accurate.

Yeah cause pure melees like Warrior, Monk or Rogue run around and solo LOL.. Give me a break...................... There is loads of melee's on the beta and I've never ever found a melee like this so far and I've been out hunting in every zone a few hundred times. The only people you find like this are other castes.

Pure melee will be grouped and buffed with see invis and other buffs in any real situation.

[Jirr]

Originally Posted by Lovely [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I'm thinking about what I can do to shut you people up.

Does anyone here on beta got a 50 rogue, 50 monk or 50 Warrior with Jboots that I can borrow? If you do please PM me.

If I manage to get one I'm up for a 1v1 vs any of you forum crybabies. Hopefully you got a Caster that you say is so OP. Whoever zones or dies shut up forever.

You seem to be under the illusion that empirical evidence can win arguments in this community. Just post what you can and hope that Null reads it.

[gloinz]

Originally Posted by Jirr [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You seem to be under the illusion that empirical evidence can win arguments in this community. Just post what you can and hope that Null reads it.

3 nukes on one ogre is not empircal evidence, its a statistical anomaly with that small of a sample size gtfo

now if he nuked that ogre 50 times it could be taken empirically

[Lovely]

Originally Posted by Jirr [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You seem to be under the illusion that empirical evidence can win arguments in this community. Just post what you can and hope that Null reads it.

I guess. Dunno why I even bother. I'll keep making posts with screenshots or logs while these other crybabies just post words.

Gloinz ill take you up on that. I really hope the Devs let people start at level 50 so I can wreck you. If they do I'll be waiting for your little 50 pally anywhere you like.

[ChubbyBubbles]

Sensing alot of anger up in here.
Lets talk about it. Get our feelings out in the open.

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[Authority]

So let me get this right... Your wiz should beat everyone in one on one peevpees. amiright? Please, stop with these retarded posts.

[valithteezee]

Lovely nearly one shotted me the other day as a rogue. Every class has it's Plus + and minuses. Saying you CAN'T kill an SK is crazy talk. You also have those clicky wands that you can stack up on and take the SK down i'm sure of it.

[Nirgon]

You guys need to get attacked by a rogue with a vox spear and muscle lock IV, esp with a bard.

Makeyoumad, Bockscar etc, I knew they were screamy idiots. Thanks for the post to help persuade anyone who might jump on the screamy dumb train with them.

If there really was a problem, I think the people who post who know absolutely anything would be freaking out more. Maybe I had Null wrong on his resist shit, the problem is, there's so many people clouding up the debate.

[Sprinkle]

some of you guys got 0 caster experience with all your shit talk

i played coz for 5 years + on live in every bracket and let me tell you this

while wizard dps is very high , their defense is low , and they are not meant to sit there and TANK A SK and out dmg him , the class isnt made for that

i can kill any ogre or any melee in time i promise , i fucking promise

but you dont run in there in front of him and say oh hi and start nuking , no

you spy through a wall , get him at half hp , wait till he pulls , or wait till you have line of sight , nail him with one nuke , cloudy pot bail into the dungeon

you work on him , he outside? GAME OVER for him , you lev above him and smash him a few times , yonder , come back

work the hp bar , sometimes you can stay up high and just finish him right off

i dont care what class someone is , only class a wiz cant really just eliminate are clerics cause they use their mana to replace what you did and until geared your like oh im oom now fuck you

clr is like haha basically


Resist system is bias currently , TOWARD MELEES

and im happy with that

roll the red im ready and tired of waiting

[Vohl]

Originally Posted by Lovely [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Yeah cause pure melees like Warrior, Monk or Rogue run around and solo LOL.. Give me a break...................... There is loads of melee's on the beta and I've never ever found a melee like this so far and I've been out hunting in every zone a few hundred times. The only people you find like this are other castes.

Pure melee will be grouped and buffed with see invis and other buffs in any real situation.

I've hit 45 with my monk largely through soloing here and there at odd hours in seclusion. This may not be possible afer red goes live, but it certainly happens in Beta.

Also, while I've geared up a little bit, I've found that I can XP solo without gear as a monk. The main concern is stocking bandages, which can be done from dropped loot in many places. Groups are preferable, but definitely not required. I've seen someone named Drizzy doing the same thing.

Also, HP are currently a bit over 1000 without buffs. Adding some jewelry and 1-2 HP items such as the Robe ofhe Lost Circle, I expect to hit roughly 1400. Without HP gear (very likely in PvP), the total is closer to 1150. Nuke for 700, Mend back 280 or so, nuke again for 700 and I'm pretty close to dead. One of my better options in PvP so far has been to pumice PK casters, click an Invis potion, and run like Hell. The few PvP wins I've had have been very near things, with luck on my part -- and friends nearby.