Questioning GM Decisions

[Skope]

Originally Posted by Hasbinbad [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You guys are arguing the same point: that the rules were not enforced to your liking. They were enforced, punishments were handed down. You didn't like them. The proper format for voicing your grievances with GM Decisions has been outlined for you. Repetition of negative references in forums is not the proper method.

Refer to server rules thread.

Is that thread about the rules that are to my liking or the actual rules of the server? Is that not what I'm arguing about? I'm not asking for special treatment. I'm not asking the witches to be burnt at the stake. What I'm asking for is that those same rules they've written up are the same for everyone that plays here. I'm asking for the rulings that they've made in the past be upheld and continued. And finally where there's an issue of clarity, I'd like some clarity =P

Actually, let's take a step back, HBB. Remember when Rogean backtracked on that promise he made over vent to the 3-4 guilds during the poopsock era when he said he'd agree to enforce anything those guys presented to him? Do you remember what happened when Bumamgar said "I don't wanna play by these roolz becuause I think there stoopid? (he wasn't very bright) Did i throw a sissyfit then? did you? We've both certainly made remarks about that incident, but it wasn't a dealbreaker. Whatever. It was a mistake that got fleshed out a couple of months when FTE happened. It wasn't a dealbreaker, and though at the time a very big deal to a lot of raiders (everyone except those in WI), it was a mistake that Rogean made that he hopefully learned from and the community moved on. Letting off 365 accounts with such a lenient punishment is inexcusable, and to go further, it sets the server in a direction that it shouldn't be going.

[nalkin]

The only thing detrimental to the server is how the staff messed up on the punishments they gave to the cheaters. They messed up so bad that people were extremely vocal... that is what happens when people become outraged. If they fix their mistake then people won't be going crazy about it like they are. If I was new to the server I would like to know the opinion of the populous, and how things are going down.

For instance, you can get a harsher punishment for saying something unfavorable in this thread than you can for using MQ2 for the past 2 years:

Originally Posted by nilbog [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Thread cleaned.

Those of you you were suspended, reasons displayed. Those whose comments were deleted, do not do it again.

1. Warning
2. Suspension
3. Ban

Depending on what you say, it is possible to skip directly past 1 and be suspended or banned. Moderator discretion.

[Slave]

Originally Posted by Hasbinbad [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

It's one thing for people to break rules in the game, but when you start using your words in the forums, it's time for some crackdown, bitches!!

[Vermicelli]

As badly as people who used Macroquest and ShowEQ "ruined" the server, junkheads who can't seem to stop stirring up drama (in the server general forum and over /ooc, no less) have been ruining it for me far harder for far longer. Suspend and plat-strip those drama llama accounts imo

Thanks to all the trolls who have posted in this thread, framing the useful discourse with all of your witch-hunt, endlessly repeated bullshit.

[Hasbinbad]

Well I have to go for now. I hope you guys can continue this civilly. When I get back I will address any real issues. Please try not to troll this thread, and thank you to both the people who have supported me and this thread in public and in private, and to the staff who have done a great job moderating it so far.

[Felwithemagi]

I see the OP's point, it is a valid one.

I guess my question is, why was a dual standard applied in terms of enforcing the rules? I never heard the answer to that, and it sets a slippery precedent for future issues.

I've tried to pick up the nuances of it from RnF but the signal/noise ratio isn't so good over there. If you could point me to a thread that answers that, please do. If you consider this post 'questioning your authority' then my bad, please delete or move it, just let me know. Thanks.

[Stinkum]

Originally Posted by Vermicelli [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

As badly as people who used Macroquest and ShowEQ "ruined" the server, junkheads who can't seem to stop stirring up drama (in the server general forum and over /ooc, no less) have been ruining it for me far harder for far longer. Suspend and plat-strip those drama llama accounts imo

Thanks to all the trolls who have posted in this thread, framing the useful discourse with all of your witch-hunt, endlessly repeated bullshit.

1. You yourself are advocating a witch-hunt in your post.
2. The above is an exact copy-paste of the same post you've made several times in several threads. Way to "endlessly repeat" your own "bullshit."
3. Learn to use the ignore function on the forum or don't visit R&F if you don't like it. I didn't realize anyone was twisting your elbow, forcing you to click on R&F every single day.

[Demetrium]

Originally Posted by Stinkum [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

1. You yourself are advocating a witch-hunt in your post.
2. The above is an exact copy-paste of the same post you've made several times in several threads. Way to "endlessly repeat" your own "bullshit."
3. Learn to use the ignore function on the forum or don't visit R&F if you don't like it. I didn't realize anyone was twisting your elbow, forcing you to click on R&F every single day.

How do I thumbs up a post?

[Skope]

Originally Posted by Stinkum [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

1. You yourself are advocating a witch-hunt in your post.
2. The above is an exact copy-paste of the same post you've made several times in several threads. Way to "endlessly repeat" your own "bullshit."
2. Learn to use the ignore function on the forum or don't visit R&F if you don't like it. I didn't realize anyone was twisting your elbow, forcing you to click on R&F every single day.
4. Literally nobody except Hasbinbad agrees with your opinion.

he's not disagreeing with me, my points or the validity of my argument. In fact I think he may even agree with me on some key points. instead he's disagreeing with the way that it's being voiced.

Yes, that above post is basically a Tamiah on the opposing side. Little thought behind a bullshit spewing attempt that hopes to prove hasbin right but only gets caught beneath the wheels.

Hasbin, let me propose to you a question that may require a bit of critical thinking on your part. Here goes...

If Nilbog/Rogean/Chica and the other members of the staff agreed with you, do you not think everything I've posted here would have been deleted by now?

You have a point, but only under certain circumstances. Clearly there are legitimate exceptions. the mere fact that my posts aren't being deleted sort of proves that

[Vermicelli]

Originally Posted by Stinkum [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

1. You yourself are advocating a witch-hunt in your post.
2. The above is an exact copy-paste of the same post you've made several times in several threads. Way to "endlessly repeat" your own "bullshit."
3. Learn to use the ignore function on the forum or don't visit R&F if you don't like it. I didn't realize anyone was twisting your elbow, forcing you to click on R&F every single day.

Oh, so you have seen my other appeals asking people stop posting trash in the general forum. Which is the forum we are posting in now, if you hadn't noticed. So many other posters seem to blur the lines between Rants n Flames and general chat that it makes my head spin violently and lighting shoot out of my ears. I don't want to have to sift thru shitpile posts just to read legitimate server threads. There is a time and place for things, and the general forum is not a place for those things.

More to the matter at hand! Reposting these shitpile threads in general chat will not change the GMs' and developers' minds regarding decisions that have already been made. That poop belongs in rants and flames.

inb4 trollolol posts that take what I say out of context and further shit up the forum for your own entertainment.