Red99 Enchanters: Let them CHARM players IMO - Page 2

dusk883 · #11 08-25-2011, 01:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Yukahwa [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Charm was definitely OP. Attack a guard.

Would you say it was OP if "/pet attack" was removed from a charmed player's "abilities"?

dusk883 · #12 08-25-2011, 01:36 PM

Haters!

Vendar · #13 08-25-2011, 01:50 PM

player charm is classic!

so was my pumice uzi [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

**Rogean** · #14 08-25-2011, 01:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Yukahwa

Charm was definitely OP. Attack a guard.

A few things to consider:

Suiciding a player into a mob results in a rezzable xp death, versus the lower xp loss but unrezzable corpse of a pvp death.

The owner will also get aggro from the guard, and also keep in mind that on p99, when a charm wears off, all aggro is transferred to the owner. You would then have a player and a guard after you.

dusk883 · #15 08-25-2011, 01:53 PM

What does a crappy chanter do in pvp anyway without charm? Pretend you're level 35, a human in an FBR and mid level gear. How do you smoke that Warrior? Rogue? whoever? What did I do? I mez'd and ran bc there was never enough mana to nuke, much less root and nuke. Might have a chance if I had pet with me but since the chanter pet was so weak, the melee would kill your pet in a few seconds and then you were toast. What's the spell strategy? Sure, I could kill a wizard... pet classes? melee? Let this newb know how you were doing it?

Doors · #16 08-25-2011, 01:57 PM

Way too abusable.

dusk883 · #17 08-25-2011, 01:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Rogean [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

A few things to consider:

Suiciding a player into a mob results in a rezzable xp death, versus the lower xp loss but unrezzable corpse of a pvp death.

The owner will also get aggro from the guard, and also keep in mind that on p99, when a charm wears off, all aggro is transferred to the owner. You would then have a player and a guard after you.

Be forewarned Enchanter-haters! Rogean is hinting that we may get our way and be able to charm your asses. I'm all for gaining that guard aggro when you've fallen at his knees. Or get aggro from both player and guard, this is FUN and not OP, IMO. It was enabled for MOST of the time TZ was around through Velious anyway.

For the OP argument, if we can't do to players like we can do to mobs, then Warriors (same logic) shouldn't be able to Double Attack players with your big bad 2HS. Just sayin'

YendorLootmonkey · #18 08-25-2011, 02:09 PM

find a willing melee partner and have an ass-rapey pet that wont aggro you when charm breaks for XPing with!

Humerox · #19 08-25-2011, 02:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Rogean [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

A few things to consider:

Suiciding a player into a mob results in a rezzable xp death, versus the lower xp loss but unrezzable corpse of a pvp death.

The owner will also get aggro from the guard, and also keep in mind that on p99, when a charm wears off, all aggro is transferred to the owner. You would then have a player and a guard after you.

If you're toying with the idea of keeping player charm in, I already know what my main is changing to, lol.

dusk883 · #20 08-25-2011, 02:12 PM

I bet a lot of people agree with you but few are going to follow through beyond the 20s IMO...it's harder to pvp charm than most remember I think. Most of the time it'd last just long enough to wipe the grin off your face and you're back in the "oh shit" mode again.