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Old 05-18-2011, 01:48 PM
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Looking at the gear available there really isn't really a lot of +sta gear available and a lot of the raw +hp/mana gear is pretty gimp in AC(which is another important stat for a shaman). You're going to end up getting +100 wisdom via equipment regardless of what you do unless you totally gimp yourself (with current available equipment up to and including sky, but not VP). When velious hits there will be more equipment available with even higher amounts of Wisdom.

Putting a few points into Wisdom wouldn't go awry, but it wouldn't be a good idea to put a full 25 into wisdom. 5-15 points depending on your race with the rest into sta (tho remember you need 5 in agility if you're an ogre)
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Old 05-20-2011, 04:14 AM
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Whoever told you to dump everything in wisdom is a total noob

Every point goes into STA. Period. Any shaman that tells you otherwise doesn't comprehend the true power of the class, or have any idea how to play a shaman with skill. It's all about maximizing your regen and hp. Screw wisdom. I suppose if you're a troll or ogre, sure, dump a few I guess.

Cannibalize is your most important spell and you should be having a nice macro setup to chain it. If you're not canni dancing, you're a shitty shaman. Add rage and you have an extremely efficient class. Any shaman that sits there and meds, especially with a cleric in the group is a lazy POS worthless shaman and you should kick them from your group.
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Old 05-20-2011, 04:21 AM
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Every point goes into STA. Period.
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Old 05-20-2011, 04:25 AM
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Old 05-20-2011, 11:21 AM
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Whoever told you to dump everything in wisdom is a total noob

Every point goes into STA. Period. Any shaman that tells you otherwise doesn't comprehend the true power of the class, or have any idea how to play a shaman with skill. It's all about maximizing your regen and hp. Screw wisdom. I suppose if you're a troll or ogre, sure, dump a few I guess.

Cannibalize is your most important spell and you should be having a nice macro setup to chain it. If you're not canni dancing, you're a shitty shaman. Add rage and you have an extremely efficient class. Any shaman that sits there and meds, especially with a cleric in the group is a lazy POS worthless shaman and you should kick them from your group.
Yea, Trolls get a super high starting WIS. Just dump everything into STA. [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

WIS all the way and rest into STA. That is my opinion.

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Old 05-20-2011, 11:30 AM
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Most of the races capable of playing a shaman start with a pretty low WIS.
Jeremy and Asher are correct. Max your WIS to 200 then go STA
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Old 05-20-2011, 11:40 AM
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Cannibalize is your most important spell and you should be having a nice macro setup to chain it. If you're not canni dancing, you're a shitty shaman. Add rage and you have an extremely efficient class. Any shaman that sits there and meds, especially with a cleric in the group is a lazy POS worthless shaman and you should kick them from your group.
You do realize that rage is a worthless piece of shit spell now, right? It drains your mana down to zero and will keep it there, so canni does nothing with rage on you...also rage is bugged half the time now anyways (unless they fixed it, AGAIN)

But to answer the question, max your wisdom on any shaman you create (put all points into WIS), then work on your stamina. When equipping your shaman aim for high AC and HPs gear to help you level easier...once you get higher levels you can start focusing more on the WIS/Mana items, but trying to keep your HPs up is always a good idea. In the end look for a good balance.

My best advice to level a shaman faster is get him a Poison Wind Censor. I specifically say Poison Wind Censor because they are only going for about 1-2k now. For a 20/28 weapon you can't beat that, and as a shaman this one item alone will be a HUGE factor in your damage output. Once this weapon starts to proc you might need to stop using it, lol...but if you could afford it, go Granite Face Grinder. 2HB is the way to go for helping your shaman level up faster (solo style). Once you get 50+ you may want to swich to Howling Harpoon and SBS.
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Old 05-20-2011, 11:52 AM
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Old 05-20-2011, 02:40 PM
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Most of the races capable of playing a shaman start with a pretty low WIS.
Jeremy and Asher are correct. Max your WIS to 200 then go STA
That would be great advice for another wis caster, but I wouldn't do that as a shaman, at least not in the content that is the scope of this server, personally. I wouldn't be so extreme as to go full STA then WIS, as others have posted, either. Without taking everything into consideration, both extremes are bad advice, IMO.

To the OP: You will have noticed by the responses in this thread that there are two schools of thought about how to build a shaman and you will see it in-game...Some shammys go full wis and play a pure caster role, others build more for HPs and AC for being able to slow-tank and make up for it by being very on top of canni....I play the latter. But that doesn't mean to completely neglect WIS or go crazy with the HPS and STA either. You want to find a balance. An oom shaman with insane HPs is still oom unless he has time to canni and is just as useless as an oom shaman with an insane mana pool but no HPs to canni...and vice versa. You need a balance.

I've been building my shammy around the goal of keeping my WIS above 175 while maxxing HPs (and AC where possible because I like to be able to slow-tank) and actually PLAYING my character when grouped, not just sitting in the back medding like a cleric. I'm not going to be so extreme as to say that shammys who do this should be booted from groups....I do it sometimes myself if im distracted, or the phone rings or something....but it is true, if you aren't canni-dancing as a shaman after 24 then you might want to evaluate how much this class is for you, because you certainly aren't playing it to full potential. Best way to get started in this direction is to go full WIS, rest STA on creation, and then just keep an eye on upgrades as they come.

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Old 05-20-2011, 03:06 PM
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That would be great advice for another wis caster, but I wouldn't do that as a shaman, at least not in the content that is the scope of this server, personally. I wouldn't be so extreme as to go full STA then WIS, as others have posted, either. Without taking everything into consideration, both extremes are bad advice, IMO.

To the OP: You will have noticed by the responses in this thread that there are two schools of thought about how to build a shaman and you will see it in-game...Some shammys go full wis and play a pure caster role, others build more for HPs and AC for being able to slow-tank and make up for it by being very on top of canni....I play the latter. But that doesn't mean to completely neglect WIS or go crazy with the HPS and STA either. You want to find a balance. An oom shaman with insane HPs is still oom unless he has time to canni and is just as useless as an oom shaman with an insane mana pool but no HPs to canni...and vice versa. You need a balance.

I've been building my shammy around the goal of keeping my WIS above 175 while maxxing HPs (and AC where possible because I like to be able to slow-tank) and actually PLAYING my character when grouped, not just sitting in the back medding like a cleric. I'm not going to be so extreme as to say that shammys who do this should be booted from groups....I do it sometimes myself if im distracted, or the phone rings or something....but it is true, if you aren't canni-dancing as a shaman after 24 then you might want to evaluate how much this class is for you, because you certainly aren't playing it to full potential. Best way to get started in this direction is to go full WIS, rest STA on creation, and then just keep an eye on upgrades as they come.

And enjoy [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.] You are starting one of the very special classes in this very special game.....A game full of amazing classes.
AC is screwy on this server.
175 WIS is... way to low.
90% of the time when grouping as a shaman AC/STA doesn't matter.
Shamans can buff every stat but wisdom/int. No need to invest in STA. As others have said, STA doesn't scale well on a Shaman. HP/Mana gear is probably better after achieving 200Wis.

I guess you could say it comes down to play style. I'd rather root rot 4 mobs then melee down 1.
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