Project 1999 Naming Policy

[Lhancelot]

Originally Posted by Muggens [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Just petitioned the character Dronestrikes, first time ive done so but I find it offensive and ugly and it makes me think of innocent people being murdered by nerds and losers with a gamepad.

Was it a druid? You know druids have a spell called http://wiki.project1999.com/Drones_of_Doom

[Muggens]

Originally Posted by maskedmelonpai [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

a $2.00/hr wage rate increase and safer working conditions.

Yeah gotta have that 2dollar incentive and aircondition to kill

[Muggens]

Originally Posted by Lhancelot [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Was it a druid? You know druids have a spell called http://wiki.project1999.com/Drones_of_Doom

So you mean it makes a good pun on words?

[Lhancelot]

Originally Posted by Muggens [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

So you mean it makes a good pun on words?

Just because the word "drone" has some evil connotation to you doesn't necessarily mean the word meant the same to him or others who read it.

I personally would think of the word as you do, but at the same time I can recognize the dual meaning behind it, the other being a play on the name of the druid spell, "Drones of Doom".

Do you think the designers created the spell name "Drones of Doom" intending it to remind people of drones used to bomb or attack people? I doubt it.

Personally I don't get upset over the name, but I can see how you might feel.

One time on EQ1 ages ago there was a guy named "Irishcarbomb" and I did not like this name, for the same reasons you don't like "Dronestrikes". I guess I am older, and less impressionable and even less offended by words so neither name phases me now.

I wouldn't be surprised if they rmeoved his name, then again I wouldn't be surprised if they did not.

[Muggens]

Yes Irishcarbomb would be the same thing, an offensive "name" especially to those who are Irish. Same with Dronestrikes, I guess that would be a reason to quit if you were a survivor. Since u seem more interested in being a kverulant Ill straighten it up for you: The word Dronestrike is a new word being used only these past years in relation to just that; bombing "targets" using drones controlled from afar in the safety of your gamepad. This is a dronestrike and there are no such things as other dronestrikes or uses of the word before.

The word drone in itself has no "evil connotation" to me, its a useful tool, just not for airstrikes.

[maskedmelon]

It is interesting how words can carry different meanings to people. Like in the US, it is not uncommon for little kids to shout "banzai!" When jumping into a pool or lake or something. Japanese people do use it as a cheer, but using it like that can be, well onjectionable? Most Americans don't even know, but many hundreds of Japanese including mothers holding their infants jumped from the Banzai cliffs at the invasion of Saipan.

Conversely, in Japan, the slang term for a Polaroid camera is bakachon kamera. Many people use it without knowing the meaning is somewhat disparaging to people of Korean ancestry (literally means a camera that even an idiot or chonseijin (Korean) can use).

[Muggens]

So youre saying Dronestrikes have another meaning in Japan? Im in Europe and it means the same here as everywhere else. Exactly like Irishcarbomb. Banzai is not really relatable here as its a japanese expression/exclamation unique to Japan, equivolent in the west could be something like "live well" or "live long and prosper"(from star trek). Were I am we have no specific expression for this. But when the americans are boming around with their drones we all say dronestrikes.

Conversely, do all americans(I assume you are) compare dronestrikes with polaroid cameras and druid spells? If so you seem desentized to violence.

[Lhancelot]

Originally Posted by Muggens [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Yes Irishcarbomb would be the same thing, an offensive "name" especially to those who are Irish. Same with Dronestrikes, I guess that would be a reason to quit if you were a survivor. Since u seem more interested in being a kverulant Ill straighten it up for you: The word Dronestrike is a new word being used only these past years in relation to just that; bombing "targets" using drones controlled from afar in the safety of your gamepad. This is a dronestrike and there are no such things as other dronestrikes or uses of the word before.

The word drone in itself has no "evil connotation" to me, its a useful tool, just not for airstrikes.

You initiated this discussion by entering a public forum. Because I don't concur immediately with your take on the name I am a nitpicker?

I just felt like chatting about it with you, to see your perspective.

Also, just fyi, your forum name "Muggens" could be found to be offensive to anyone who has been robbed or mugged.

"Muggens" easily can be interpreted as "muggings" which is plural for "mugging".

mugging
n
an act of robbery with violence, esp in the street

Imo the name "Dronestrikes" is in poor taste.

I just want to point out that what is offensive to some is not always offensive to others, and that his name could actually be 100% in the spirit of the druid spell too.

[Lhancelot]

Originally Posted by maskedmelon [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

It is interesting how words can carry different meanings to people. Like in the US, it is not uncommon for little kids to shout "banzai!" When jumping into a pool or lake or something. Japanese people do use it as a cheer, but using it like that can be, well onjectionable? Most Americans don't even know, but many hundreds of Japanese including mothers holding their infants jumped from the Banzai cliffs at the invasion of Saipan.

Conversely, in Japan, the slang term for a Polaroid camera is bakachon kamera. Many people use it without knowing the meaning is somewhat disparaging to people of Korean ancestry (literally means a camera that even an idiot or chonseijin (Korean) can use).

That's why language is so fascinating to me. Even within the English language it's wild how a word can sound the same as another but be so different in spelling and meaning. Anyway I am digressing.

I think Muggens has a political perspective that is influencing his judgement of this particular name, and he is 100% ignoring the fact that there are actual ingame references to drones which have nothing to do with U.S. military drones being used to slaughter people.

[Muggens]

Originally Posted by Lhancelot [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You initiated this discussion by entering a public forum. Because I don't concur immediately with your take on the name I am a nitpicker?

I just felt like chatting about it with you, to see your perspective.

Also, just fyi, your forum name "Muggens" could be found to be offensive to anyone who has been robbed or mugged.

"Muggens" easily can be interpreted as "muggings" which is plural for "mugging".

mugging
n
an act of robbery with violence, esp in the street

Imo the name "Dronestrikes" is in poor taste.

I just want to point out that what is offensive to some is not always offensive to others, and that his name could actually be 100% in the spirit of the druid spell too.

Hehe you agree with me that the name is in poor taste, so yes you come off as a nitpicker in this regard. You know, someone who will argue just to argue(kverulant).

I am pretty sure there wasnt much drone murdering being used back in 99, hence the word Dronestrikes werent used, so yes I agree the devs prolly didnt think of that, but instead thought of Drones of Bees coming to insure Doom on you since its after all a Druid spell in a game from the 90s.

Drones as in multiple, not drone as in remote controlled quadthopter, and dronestrikes; remotecontrolled quadthopter dropping bombs, not Bees "coming in to strike you".

second edit: Wanting peace has nothing to do with politics.