Game Mechanics: Ancient Shissar Gauntlet didn't exist til almost Velious

[Erati]

Originally Posted by wycca [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Oh hai - http://www.eqclerics.org/forums/showthread.php?t=8413

this link supports what i was saying about uninformed players speculating about items they did not see many of, if at all. Also...

...wait for it...

THERE WAS NO ITEM LINKING AT THAT TIME

for someone to show you VS gloves it had to be on VS's corpse and thus you have rampant speculation about the stats especially since the Chardok gloves are so similar in style/itemization

/mike drop

[koros]

Originally Posted by Erati [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

this link supports what i was saying about uninformed players speculating about items they did not see many of, if at all. Also...

...wait for it...

THERE WAS NO ITEM LINKING AT THAT TIME

for someone to show you VS gloves it had to be on VS's corpse and thus you have rampant speculation about the stats especially since the Chardok gloves are so similar in style/itemization

/mike drop

Link I posted originally has a no longer working screenshot... I'm sure that's how people knew about it. It was probably just a mistake on the gloves.

[Erati]

Originally Posted by koros [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Link I posted originally has a no longer working screenshot... I'm sure that's how people knew about it. It was probably just a mistake on the gloves.

right how some knew about it but there was not nearly the amount of internet scouring to see every item that existed, alot was still talked about via type chat and actually listing the attributes long hand

[White Ranger Revival]

Ok then. We need to wait until we're almost in Velious to put them in on p99...

[koros]

Originally Posted by wycca [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Interesting, the item id's look like it was itemized during Kunark, but it sounds like there may have been a drop issue or rarity problem. Plus that is interesting about the click.

The itemization, quests, mobs in KC are a bit odd, there were quite a few issues and oddities, ie look at the Shackle line for one with the buggy KC component.

Probably this.

Kunark had a ton of really really cool things that seem half-finished/removed/buggy.

This just reminded me that:

http://lucy.allakhazam.com/item.html?id=14750

existed. Kunark was cool, but god damn would it have been amazing if they did everything they intended with it.

[wycca]

More transmute hammer proof - http://ttlg.com/FORUMS/showthread.php?t=5807

http://www.eqclerics.org/forums/showthread.php?t=1479

[Freakish]

39 Cleric has CH. I'd let him raid on VS.

[wycca]

More proof - http://www.eqclerics.org/forums/showthread.php?t=8477

http://www.eqclerics.org/forums/showthread.php?t=2386 - 2/14/01 post at that!

http://www.eqclerics.org/forums/showthread.php?p=83371

http://twilight.uh-oh.jp/eq/tips/dr_karnor.html - Uh oh, check Venril's drop list!

That's right, guilds in Kunark/early Velious had TWO sources of Vibrating Gloves!

[Nirgon]

pls remove item linking

[Erati]

Heres what happened.

VS gloves had a incorrect picture displaying 'Effect: Transmute Hammer'

That effect exists only on one item: Vib Gauntlets of Infuse which creates the Vibrating Hammer of Infuse.

The reason why so many keep saying 'you never get the caster gloves back' bc this is what happened...

with the incorrect picture of Shissar gloves displaying the effect that was never on them (Effect: Transmute Hammer), VS's gloves began to become mixed up with the Vibrating gaunlets bc it was believed they had the same effect.

Well that effect only makes 1 item- Vibrating Hammer of Infuse and that hammer also has an effect which always only does one thing - makes Vibrating Gloves.

So in theory if you clicked your Shissar gloves with the Transmute Hammer effect you would enter the Vibrating Gauntlets cycle and thus never see your Shissar gloves again bc no item had the effect "Transmute Shissar Gloves :P".

In reality- the Shissar gloves never had that effect and in fact just a simple item link of an actual pair was impossible at the time. Word of mouth spread rampantly and we are talking about maybe 3-4 sets of gloves on a server by the time Velious was even released probably.

Very few knew the actual truth.

Or it was a bug and only the first couple had the Effect then was fixed after the obvious mistake

but this is a fun thread to read