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Old 01-23-2015, 02:10 PM
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There should be a GM event every time Forum Quests or Everlawyering like this pop up. The GMs should log in the next night and randomly DT people from the post as well as people in the guilds involved. Or just DT the whole damn guild a few times that night, especially if they are raiding. A GM forum hitsquad...

There should be an in-game cost associated with taking up resources when Forum Questing & Everlawyering.
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Old 01-23-2015, 02:11 PM
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Still not clear despite very large text and bolded words whether or not intentionally taking a PVP death in a zone connected to a raid zone allows you to LNS into the raid zone where no pvp death occurred. If so, this seems like a very large loophole.
From what I gather from Sirken's last post normally this would not stand. However he enacted a caveat since Holo was on fear suspension and could not enter fear regardless of what Azrael did. He decided to view Holo/Fresh as one entity.
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Old 01-23-2015, 02:14 PM
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In large scale PvP there is no limit to the number of zones a force can be locked out of. If a fight took place across multiple zones the lockout will apply to all zones a PvP related death occurred in.
I interpreted Sirken's post as those dead were part of a force and force LNS would have been required thus no rules broken by either side last night. Just we should have killed then and not let them zone in as they were not under a valid LNS call.
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Old 01-23-2015, 02:19 PM
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Man I ain't even mad, you can't cut off our reinforcements anymore? They are guaranteed entry to a zone with all our holo pals in it as long we aren't suspended from said zone?

gg

I mean I'd be in favor of giving smaller elite crews more of a chance to contest, but... this benefits us so much its not even funny.
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Old 01-23-2015, 02:33 PM
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i thought it was clear. as HC is suspended from fear, they have no grounds to lay claim to that zone, nor do they have grounds to dictate whom may enter that zone.

better?

also, you literally logged out last night as i tried to send you a tell. was very rude.
so what punishment is HC receiving for violating the rules yet again?
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Old 01-23-2015, 02:34 PM
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so is it okay to forward LNS into a raid zone that's being blocked off?

Fresh was there and was zoning in periodically with PvP taking place inside Fear
lol now you are just making shit up. fresh never zoned in more than 1 person to take a count of the zone. get out of here.
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Old 01-23-2015, 02:36 PM
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if it was 3 guilds doing 1v1v1 against each other, then Fresh could have forced Azrael out. but as Fresh and Holocaust were clearly working in a 2v1, i considered them as part of the same force. and i simply was not going to let the efforts of a guild that was suspended from Fear dictate anything having to do with control of the zone.
This is total bull shit. Do you think I would have given loot to holocaust after my guild killed CT or something? Seems like you decided to give Azrael an extra advantage by disregarding the legitimacy of my guilds interest in cazic thule and have given them a free pass to be shit bags because you're upset at a couple of people who trained in plane of fear last week. Thanks of telling us all that we aren't worthy of being treated as our own organization.
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Old 01-23-2015, 02:36 PM
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seems dumb imo to be able to take intentional death so that you can freely move to wherever you want with no threat of pvp
you guys had no right to say you were contesting fear. he's made it pretty clear, which is what we said last night while you guys were breaking rules.
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Old 01-23-2015, 02:38 PM
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Doesn't hurt to run with what is presented here and sort it out in game if Sirken has to be involved again.

Right now I understand that a player can be killed in Sky Fire or Feerott and then is free to zone into VP or Plane of Fear (after an LNS call!) at the risk of being chased into said zone and killed again.

If you are suspended from said zone, too bad, you can't chase them.

Going with that for now as legal, correct me if I'm wrong.
you're wrong. he's made it very clear. holofresh (sirken considered you guys 1 raiding force as you worked together) had no right to enter PoF or claim it as being contested. The only way your above post is correct is if the guild in question is also suspended from that zone in the future. Got it?
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Old 01-23-2015, 02:40 PM
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This is total bull shit. Do you think I would have given loot to holocaust after my guild killed CT or something? Seems like you decided to give Azrael an extra advantage by disregarding the legitimacy of my guilds interest in cazic thule and have given them a free pass to be shit bags because you're upset at a couple of people who trained in plane of fear last week. Thanks of telling us all that we aren't worthy of being treated as our own organization.
would you guys have shown up to feerott if holo didn't have 30+ there? Why didn't you zone in?
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