we should definitely introduce variance.

[Jib]

in fact id rather have +/- 24 hours on 3 days spawns and +/- 4 days on 7 day spawns that would be so much better

[mikemandella]

Jibeknn. give up.. just let Nihilum farm the box in peace... The GM's do not care. They were perfectly happy farming a empty box two years ago and will be just fine to farm an empty one now.

-Oppressor

[Jib]

its up to the players at this point, the gm's have done so much. the only thing left they can do is add variance.

[hivemind]

Originally Posted by hivemind [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

There are only two types of players who aren't interested in variance (and those two groups aren't even entirely disjoint). The first group of people are players in Nihilum--people who would stand to lose time and/or pixels if variance were introduced. The second group of people are blewbs/ignoranuses that think variance on red would somehow be comparable to variance on blue.

For instance...

Originally Posted by Rystar [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I love how you guys keep saying variance will raise the pop. Complete bullshit, you guys don't log on now why would variance suddenly get you the 50 required to PvP a mob away from Nihilum?

Just say it like it is, you want some pity dragons from the Devs since you can't take it on your own. We can even get a nice catch phrase for this, call it EQ Obamacare, or better yet call it Nizzarcare.

Originally Posted by Rystar [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Variance isn't going to make you and yours log in. You know it and I know it.

Originally Posted by GradnerLives [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I'm convinced that anyone who supports this idea never played on blue.

Originally Posted by Kergan [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Doesn't matter how many people say the same thing Gradner, Lite and co. believe poopsocking leads to PVP somehow.

Originally Posted by R Flair [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Some of them are actually dumb enough to believe that any change may somehow turn the tides in their favor, but most of them are just trolling about variance because they want grief Nihilum as hard as they can by wasting thousands of hours of their EQ time sitting around tracking mobs.

Originally Posted by R Flair [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

In no way does it raise the pop. It does absolutely nothing but grief members of the guilds willing to track mobs and leads to completely uncontested boss encounters as opposed to affording the opportunity to contest mobs on a known timer.

Originally Posted by Supaskillz [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Must not have played on blue ever. Blue has had variance for sometime. An FFA raid mob living for 5 minutes would be some kind of miracle.

How unexpected.

[Zalaerian]

What are you trying to say

[GradnerLives]

So how do you propose that variance will be different on Red than it is on Blue?

I would argue that the only people that appear to be in favor of variance are a select few Azrael members and others who have no past experience with the baggage that comes along with variance.

I don't see any reason to cherry pick these posts and highlight/bold the parts say who they are, rather than looking at any of their arguments and forming a coherent rebuttal.

You appear to have read the first line of my post.
Congrats.
Now what about the rest of it?

[R Flair]

Originally Posted by Zalaerian [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

What are you trying to say

Think he is trying to say players fighting over mobs at a set time is bad, and random pve without pvp is good. Also, that I'm a blue player for thinking this (never played blue, sorry).

[Xantille]

This discussion is based on the false assumption that GM's care about this server, tbqh

Every emu PvP server's power balance is cyclical, until one side recruits nearly the entire server (this is going to happen sooner rather than later). Shit is vlassic, tho. Not even mad bro

[Zalaerian]

Variance never gonna happen. Best bet is to just log in during prime team on a weekend if you want a shot at the belt. Tho looks like most of you logging off 4 ever


O well

[Littlegyno 11.0]

Originally Posted by Zalaerian [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Variance never happen. Best just in during prime team on a weekend if you want a shot that the belt. Tho looks like most of you logging off 4 ever


O well

they can't fight the power of the duke.