Ever be a 3rd guild?

[FaithlessKR]

Pop can currently sustain more than 2 guilds. However come velious our pop can only sustain 2 guilds, and if it gets up to 200 then possibly 3.

[Biaxil]

Originally Posted by heartbrand [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Problem with a third "raiding" guild, is that the server can't support it. Right now, even after the big push by Nihilum to get all the vets back, we're barely hitting 50, and a good number of that 50 are euros and people who can only play for a couple of hours "primetime" before needing to dip. That number is BARELY workable for Velious PvE on a blue server, let alone a red server where you need to defend the mobs, etc.

Factor in the constant turn over from burn out / defections, and you can see why it's almost impossible for a third guild to thrive.

However, if your goals are to be a smaller guild that snipes some targets, it can work with far fewer numbers, but keep in mind you'll be constantly losing people to Az and Nilly as people will jump ship for the easiest pixel express, particularly when those velious pixels start getting linked in OOC. Blue has 10x the pop and can only support a couple of true Class A or w/e the fuck they're called raiding guilds, so it's 10x worse on red.

Thanks, this pretty much answers my question.

[Biaxil]

Originally Posted by HippoNipple [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Join Nihilum or Azrael

Pretty much.

[Jib]

so many more options than nilly or az

[heartbrand]

The only way I could see a third guild working here is with a TREMENDOUS amount of effort, a huge grass roots movement, 24/7 recruitment, tons of fresh blood, etc. I tried this with Red Dawn and running the guild was a 9-5 job. It would take an individual with that level of dedication in order to pull it off. Unfortunately, even with that, you're still going to lose people to burn out and the other two guilds. It would be a huge amount of work.

[Yumyums Inmahtumtums]

Made 25 just as Res Dawn died.

Met some pretty cool RD peeps. Definitely would have joined.

[Biaxil]

Originally Posted by heartbrand [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The only way I could see a third guild working here is with a TREMENDOUS amount of effort, a huge grass roots movement, 24/7 recruitment, tons of fresh blood, etc. I tried this with Red Dawn and running the guild was a 9-5 job. It would take an individual with that level of dedication in order to pull it off. Unfortunately, even with that, you're still going to lose people to burn out and the other two guilds. It would be a huge amount of work.

I ran a guild for a year on Darkfall Online. I know what you mean by it being a job. I don't have the time/drive for that anymore. I just want to be in a guild and have fun.

[Biaxil]

Originally Posted by Jib [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

so many more options than nilly or az

only other guild ive seen much of is Flowers, but twinking to kill noobs all day isn't really what I play for.

[Nirgon]

Originally Posted by heartbrand [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

That number is BARELY workable for Velious PvE on a blue server

I saw a 38 man Yelinak kill on live.

It wasn't my guild but.

If you guys are going to be the best Velious raid guild of all time (some believe Nihilum is the best pve guild of all time in EQ or something), that's your # to beat.

Charming a bunch of shit wasn't used in that strat on live either (didn't hold remotely as well as it does here).

I will even give props for a 44-45 man kill but until then you're just the best raiding guild on red.

[Kergan]

Hard to tell if we're good until the content is actually a challenge, honestly. AoW will be an interesting barometer, since it was never killed in the classic era. The PVP + general venomous nature of the server leaves me to believe even if we got it to 1% someone would find a way to wipe us. [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]