Druid vs Shaman (without Torpor) as a solo class in Velious?

[Daldaen]

A smart shaman can solo Lodizal. And maybe a totally boss enchanter.

Also at Tecmos, yea PotG will be expensive for awhile I'd guess. The heal is vendor sold so that's no problem. But the spell table is much more limited than Kunark boss spell tables:

Bard - V2 Haste
Cleric - Aegolism
Druid - PotGrove
Enchanter - Gift of Brilliance
Magician - Monster Summoning 3
Necromancer - Arch Lich (Death Peace)
Paladin - Divine Strength
Ranger - Call of Predator
Shadowknight - Death Peace
Shaman - Focus of Spirit
Wizard - Ice Spear of Solist

That's the extent of what raid mobs like Lodizal will drop. 11 spells, Lodi drops 4 per 12 hours. They will stack up quickly I think.

[Daldaen]

Re Corduth, he isn't the only undercon in the zone

Keref Spiritspear is a gnoll at the gnoll huts near ToFS. He has about 50k HP, and hits for around 80. Wields weapons and is level 35ish so an enchanter or puppet string master should hold him easily for a long duration.

[Tecmos Deception]

Ohh. For some reason I was thinking all of the Velious spells were exclusively drops.

[Daldaen]

A few were vendor sold.

Druids 60 heal and 55 heal were sold in EC for example.

Each class gets a level 60 spell that is dropped though (apparently necros get 2 since they share with SKs). There are a few 55 spells that drop in SG / Velketors too. Like Druid bear pet <3.

[Erati]

Originally Posted by Daldaen [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

A few were vendor sold.

Druids 60 heal and 55 heal were sold in EC for example.

Each class gets a level 60 spell that is dropped though (apparently necros get 2 since they share with SKs). There are a few 55 spells that drop in SG / Velketors too. Like Druid bear pet <3.

I remember the druid bear pet being pretty damn rare

in fact most the lvl 55 Velious spells are rare while most guilds will be swimming in the lvl 60 ones as so many named ( like Lody) drop several copies of only lvl 60 spells

and as Daldaen points out theres only 1 lvl 60 spell per class so you will see many many many many copies of these lvl 60 spells


the lvl 55 spells ( depending on which) will be the prized ones for plats

all these spells will be overpriced at launch tho, bc the raiders will NEED these spells to even think about raiding big Velious content

[jaybone]

Originally Posted by Erati [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I remember the druid bear pet being pretty damn rare

in fact most the lvl 55 Velious spells are rare while most guilds will be swimming in the lvl 60 ones as so many named ( like Lody) drop several copies of only lvl 60 spells

and as Daldaen points out theres only 1 lvl 60 spell per class so you will see many many many many copies of these lvl 60 spells


the lvl 55 spells ( depending on which) will be the prized ones for plats

all these spells will be overpriced at launch tho, bc the raiders will NEED these spells to even think about raiding big Velious content

You underestimate the power of 3 years kunark.

[Daldaen]

Yea I don't expect to get PotG as a non-poopsocker / non-casual raider for a long while after Velious comes out. Especially if Corudth is made uncharmable here :P.

[Zapatos]

Druids will be able to quad kite in cobalt scar. Also certain wolves in kael are charmable and I believe the wolves in WW are charmable as well. If not you could just kite them. Could probably make bank dragging people in PoG too?

Speaking of, those PoG quest rewards were sweet for tunare Druids.

[Daldaen]

Originally Posted by Zapatos [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Speaking of, those PoG quest rewards were sweet for tunare Druids.

Sucks for all the min/maxers who thought halfling was a good Druid class. Stupid Halflings.

Vindi dies so often and it isn't MQable so that head is going to rot a lot I think after a few months.

[VincentVolaju]

Originally Posted by Tecmos Deception [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

There is the fact that manastones are selling for less now than they have in a year+ (I think), though, and that torpor is more expensive than ever.

Do you think the current trend will continue, with stones going down in price and torpor only continuing to go up?