Players will always compete for raid mobs; the point of contention is the rules - Page 14

webrunner5 · #**131** 08-05-2013, 07:58 AM

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Originally Posted by falkun [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Training in VP allows the guild that controls VP to kill other targets and keep a small training force in VP to prevent others from killing precious VP mobs. If you could not train in VP, there are enough people keyed that the mobs would die immediately and trainers couldn't save them for later. Consider the effects of holing VP capable guilds up in VP on respawn days when they can't save the VP mobs for last...

To whomever said this server is a Classic experience, please tell me how 96+ hour Variance is classic.

As I've said in the Sirken interview thread, if CSR wants the playerbase to self-police, then give us the capability to self-police. Variance takes away capability to police: only when your guild can answer a batphone instead of planning ahead.

Webrunner, this is EQ, not real life, we're in their world now. I play real life when I take my dog to the park, cook dinner for/with my wife, and pay my bills. When paying bills becomes more satisfying than raiding, something's wrong with the game.

Lorean, that was a good OP, don't let the troll/spin-force get you down.

I know this is EQ, not something real on paper. But guess what, there are real people playing all these toons. Just go play on Red and you will see what REAL people like to do there. Kill your ass. And that is what most of the hardcore people want to do in TMO. Is kill your ass. Sad fact of life. Rogean, Nilbog, Sirken all seem to be hands off on the Raid Scene so it is not going to change like it or not. I am not fond of it either but I have just given up. Sad really.

Stickyfingers · #**132** 08-05-2013, 07:59 AM

Pretty sure this shit has been occurring since the server started...same things were happening in Fear and Hate when Dark Ascension and Inglorious were the top guilds, and before that Divinity and Transcendence were in the game. Its all the same bullshit.

Vianna · #**133** 08-05-2013, 08:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Sckrilla [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Exactly why I'm making this point. We leveled together for quite sometime and everything seemed kosher and fine. In fact, TMO was never even in your mouth during this time frame. Now all you have to do is do a search for your name on these forums and see that the top 3 threads you've posted in are directly about FE/TMO shenanigans (even though people want to write it off as shit involving the "future" of the server). Two of which, you've posted over a dozen times in. Just saying. It comes off as looking pretty frothy mad about TMO, whether you intend for it to or not.

And no one cares about Sericx anyways, everyone in TMO hates him! Bahahhhaha.....

It isn't about TMO and FE. Why are you misreading what I am saying lol. I was talking about the raid scene and the new mechanics in the scene with extended windows and FTE shouts that training isn't needed in any zone to settle anything anymore. I know it isn't a popular opinion with raiders and some in my own guild love training in VP.... It's just my views on it.

Also please read my posts I never trashed any guild for doing it. I am even cordial to anyone who wants to have a discussion about anything from any guild. I haven't spent time trying to trash anyone. It would be counterproductive. I think that is the problem a lot of times. Grudges get held over the silliest things.

Sckrilla · #**134** 08-05-2013, 08:00 AM

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OOohh, awesomeness and truth is all about Time and date ?

March 1999 Soe original account on live. Beat that !

Who said anything about truths? Do you lack reading comprehension as much as Tasslehof or something? It was stated that I might be new to these boards, what I posted simply proves otherwise considering the dates' relevancy. Derp.

falkun · #**135** 08-05-2013, 08:00 AM

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I know this is EQ, not something real on paper. But guess what, there are real people playing all these toons. Just go play on Red and you will see what REAL people like to do there. Kill your ass. And that is what most of the hardcore people want to do in TMO. Is kill your ass. Sad fact of life. Rogean, Nilbog, Sirken all seem to be hands off on the Raid Scene so it is not going to change like it or not.

So basically you are saying TMO would fit in on Red, since the goals of the two align. Sounds good to me. Go be internet tough guys and "kill that ass" on Red. Can't make it in the Marine Corp., join TMO on Red, its almost equivalent. (Apologies to the Marine Corp., I'm sure most of you are not out to simply "kill that ass", maybe death row would fit TMO better?)

xmonkx · #**136** 08-05-2013, 08:01 AM

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Reread my posts I am not slinging anything at your guild. I have no hard feelings towards TMO. I even said they were in their right by the rules to train in VP. It is sericx with is silly juvenile attitude towards everything that I was replying to in kind. You know I have no problem with you Netta we leveled in CoM together.

So basically your saying through all the moaning and crying is you want a WoW like environment to cater to the casual player. As if raids outside of VP dont take more then 5 mins. So when VP comes and there is train wars you have to stay a bit longer, you begin to moan and bitch? Again this thread and the other was not created by me. So again it is the you or anyone who agrees with the non training rules to provide the proof that is was NOT allowed on classic. Which no one has shown me a single piece of evidence stating otherwise. Show me a SOLID piece of evidence that states there was no training allowed in VP.

Vianna · #**137** 08-05-2013, 08:03 AM

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So basically your saying through all the moaning and crying is you want a WoW like environment to cater to the casual player so they. As if raids outside of VP dont take more then 5 mins. So when VP comes and there is train wars you have to stay a bit longer, you begin to moan and bitch? Again this thread and the other was not created by me. So again it is the you or anyone who agrees with the non training rules to provide the proof that is was NOT allowed on classic. Which no one has shown me a single piece of evidence stating otherwise. Show me a SOLID piece of evidence that states there was no training allowed in VP.

You have a huge reading comprehension problem. That is all I will say in response to this.

Sckrilla · #**138** 08-05-2013, 08:04 AM

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So basically you are saying TMO would fit in on Red, since the goals of the two align. Sounds good to me. Go be internet tough guys and "kill that ass" on Red. Can't make it in the Marine Corp., join TMO on Red, its almost equivalent. (Apologies to the Marine Corp., I'm sure most of you are not out to simply "kill that ass", maybe death row would fit TMO better?)

Funny you mad this correlation considering Sericx is an ex-jarhead... lulz!

falkun · #**139** 08-05-2013, 08:04 AM

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How the hell does it benefit us? Do they give us a magical lamp that gives us 3 wishes the makes raiding easier? Nut up or shut up.

If you require explanations on how the hoop nerf, soulfire nerf request, anti-kiting methods, etc. benefit your guild, I refer you to the RNF forum where all of these arguments have been hashed out ad nauseam, with your guild members prominently establishing and then defending their positions. Please search for usernames such as "Alarti0001".

Wildino · #**140** 08-05-2013, 08:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Sckrilla [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Who said anything about truths? Do you lack reading comprehension as much as Tasslehof or something? It was stated that I might be new to these boards, what I posted simply proves otherwise considering the dates' relevancy. Derp.

I just answered something stupid to a stupid post.

My point was to tell you everyone is allowed to give his coopers, up to them is they say something retarded and look idiot.