I do have drug problems

[gotrocks]

if you dont like long posts, skip this one and ill do a tl;dr at the end.

Going to start off by saying I think most of the RnF'ers around here know by now that I rarely, if ever, go off on someone, lose my temper, or say something really negative about someone else in a personal attack. Excluding that one time I verbally raped dredge until he stopped posting again (and he never really came back, lol), I don't think I've ever blown up on here. I have a long fuse irl and prefer to not get invested in online entertainment like that. So I hope that adds some weight to the following statement.

Fuck everyone in this thread telling naez to kill himself. Really, go fuck yourselves. Preferably with extendable electric batons so you can get deep enough to tap your heart and shock some fucking humanity back into your worthless husk of a being you call home.

I personally have no real opinion on naez as a person. I think he's lost and troubled, and I think that shows in the way he presents himself online. I don't think it makes him a bad guy necessarily, just lost. I do know, however, that this isn't a troll. He's genuinely crying for help (albeit in the wrong place) and is probably hurting pretty fucking bad right now. Judging by the last ~week or so of his posts, he's in a bad place right now, and (i hope) doesn't want to be there anymore. I'd like to see a single one of you claim that you didn't do/say something really stupid at a time when you were hurt, lost, or alone, because we all know it would be a lie, and a bad one at that.

I'm not defending naez. I'm not saying anyone here should try to coddle him, support his addiction, or even offer to help. But to sit here and shout 'JUMP' to someone who is clearly close to the edge of the bridge isn't just fucked up, it's sick. Like Holocaust kind of sick. It takes a really fucking warped mind to look at someone with a gun in their mouth and tell them to pull. You should really take a long, hard look at who you are and the things that led you up to this point in your life, because you're fucked up, probably more fucked up and less deserving of being on this earth than the person you're ridiculing.

I understand that you're (hopefully) joking. I get that we're online, and that the anonymity and distance that setting provides allows for you to justify acting in ways that you'd never act in real life. And I'll be the first to say that the 'go kill yourself' line is generally harmless in most situations. This is not one of those situations. This isn't dredge asking for advice on how to stop being his girls bitch in bed. This is a real, actual human being (dredge is clearly a trollbot) asking for real, actual help, because he is really actually hurting and wants a way out. I don't know naez, but I sincerely doubt he puts any stock in those comments. Regardless, what if he did off himself tonight? What if you heard about it on the news? What if, by some sick twist of fate and logic, he really did listen to all of you telling him to pull the trigger and actually fucking did it? You'd have just fucking killed someone. Way to go. You won at forum quest. But you lost at being a real human being.

Naez, millions of people have been exactly where you are now, myself included. I promise you no matter how bad your situation is, you can fight your way out. I did, and from the sound of it, I was a LOT farther along than you are now. It takes strength, it takes heart, and it takes an utter willingness to say fuck you life, and take all the shit it throws at you while you grit your teeth in a smile and ask for more. It's a long road, and a lot of people stray off the path and have to start all over at the beginning. or they die. Or they go to jail. It's pretty much that simple. You don't have to do this alone, there are so many resources out there to help you, some of which i outlined in my original post way back on page 1. You don't have to do AA, but you do need to do something, and you DO need to get the fuck away from anyone that uses/helps you use. And you need to stay away from the booze, too. You're an addict, bud, and you're going to have to start living with that knowledge and understanding what it means for you. You CAN do this and it IS worth it. You are worth it. Your life is worth it. You sure as fuck aren't going to believe that right now, so you had better tell it to yourself every god damn day until it becomes a reality for you. You will get there, that I promise. If you want to talk more, my door is open, I have been to literal hell and back, back to hell, and then back again, but I made it out. I'm not gonna hold your fuckin hand, but if you need someone to talk to, i'm here.

I have a lot more to say but I'd like to calm down a bit before I try to add to the aa/na and the peyote/ibogaine discussion. I like you guys and I like this community, and I really do NOT like getting worked up and making an ass of myself by wearing my heart on my sleeve, but this went too far. Those of you who crossed that line should go kill yourselves.

tl;dr You're a fucked up human being if you kicked naez while he was actually fucking down IRL, regardless of what you think of him as a person. I'm all worked up and making a fool of myself over this, so if you want to see that, read the above post. Enjoy.

[Barkingturtle]

Gotrocks, go fucking kill yourself.

[pharmakos]

eh he's on too many drugs to care what any of us faceless online people say about him

[Doors]

I'm not talking about the 12 step program. I'm talking about just putting faith into a religious belief/idea/diety/whatever. I personally know people that this has helped. It turned their lives around. I don't expect trolls on this board to know shit about it. But if it works it works. Anything is better than letting a substance abuse destroy or kill you.

[Hailto]

If you knew root (naez) better you wouldn't be getting so worked up over this gotrocks. He is a big ole troll.

[r00t]

i was 6 years clean off meth, clean is arbirtray, i just smoked a lot of weed and turned into an alcoholic things havent gone well since my brother died and I really dont give a fuck whether I live or die so Im going out fast but I still dont feel like ive made my lifes work

[Hasbinbad]

Originally Posted by Doors [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I'm not talking about the 12 step program. I'm talking about just putting faith into a religious belief/idea/diety/whatever. I personally know people that this has helped. It turned their lives around. I don't expect trolls on this board to know shit about it. But if it works it works. Anything is better than letting a substance abuse destroy or kill you.

Society for Creative Anachronism or a drama class or watching Mister Rogers is also good for exploring the imagination.

[Hasbinbad]

Originally Posted by gotrocks [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

myself included.

JUMP!!!!!!!

[Hasbinbad]

Originally Posted by Barkingturtle [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Gotrocks, go fucking kill yourself.

o. i read this before but didn't catch you were referencing the same thing i was.

ur too funny. wanna get married?

[r00t]

I took the firing pins and destroyed them out of my weapons because of the way I felt about hurting myself and others