This is retarded

[indiscriminate_hater]

Originally Posted by Ikonoclastia [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Its inconceivable that someone would write a guide like this if it never existed

i think you just conceived it

[Ikonoclastia]

So you don't have to read the whole thing it basically goes like this:

Lazy Aggro

In Kunark and Velious, if you are beyond a certain distance from a mob, it will lose interest and no longer pursue you, though will still maintain you on the hate list with an increased aggro radius.

Bind Point Splitting

At the exact moment that a mob returns to bind point and is resetting it's aggro, it is unavailable for recieving a hate list. If you have a mob that is just getting to it's bind point and another still wandering back, you can stand up from FD at the exact right moment, and the wandering mob will reaggro but the one at bind point may not aggro. If not successful immediately, you may use this to increase the distance between the two mobs enough to use lazy aggro and aggro radius to tag or chain tag one.

Snare COH pulling

Should you have a mage with CoH (level 55 spell), you can have the monk pull a group and a ranger or druid act as snare. The monk pulls the group, the snarer snares one then is CoHd back to group clearing aggro. The mobs continues to pursue the monk and then FDs. When the mobs return, the snared mob slowly seperates from the group and can now be tagged safely. Can also be used with reverse pulling. Should a CoH not be available, you can have the snarer zone out or run outside of lazy aggro range.

Second problem is when lazy aggro comes into play... you can fail an FD, and be healed but the mob not aggro the healer. How is this possible? Well if the cleric is right at the edge of the mobs lazy aggro range, then the mob would consider the healer not worth pursuing... possible with very long range healing spells such as divine light and the mob is repathing all over the place. Now, if the healer reenters the lazy aggro range, then suddenly the mob *sees* the healer and suddenly goes after him, even though the cleric hasn't done a thing for quite a length of time. This is because he must have done enough healing to put him at the top of the hate list, but has just reentered the lazy aggro radius.

im not 100% sure that lazy aggro works on velious.

somone double check?


Aztarok Warthbringer

56 Monk

Yes. Lazy Aggro works in Velious.


Proof -- put on SoW. Aggro a mob slower than you in Eastern Wastes or Wakening Lands, then run until it's out of sight and sound. Stop, turn around and look. The mob will at some distance give up the pursuit. (I use this in WL all the time to dodge stuff like Holgreshes and Panthers)

[indiscriminate_hater]

op get a job

[Ikonoclastia]

Originally Posted by indiscriminate_hater [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

op get a job

Paralegal, big part of my job is ... research [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

[Glenzig]

From the guide you posted:
"This should be required reading for any monk who desires to pull.



Regards,






Brother Daitan Niyan
Monk of Quellious
62nd Grandmaster of the Celestial Fists
The Rathe
Daitan "

Level 65 cap didn't happen until PoP.

[Glenzig]

Also the guide wasn't posted until May of 2001. That's nearly six months into Velious as starting point for the claim of lazy aggro. That doesn't prove that it was around in Kunark timeline.

[indiscriminate_hater]

damn icon you just got out-researched dog

[Silverain]

I seem to remember when Abscond/Evac spells were first put in, they did not cause you to load the zone, they just put you at the safe spot. This was allowing people to pull dragons across entire zones without worrying about anything going wrong (specifically remember Gore and DL), and so the spell was changed. I remember using Abscond on live and not loading at all, at first. But, memory and time, I can't seem to find definitive evidence for patch changes, but I'm fairly sure on it. Just my 2 cp on the distance/agro thing.

[Kekephee]

Originally Posted by Glenzig [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Also the guide wasn't posted until May of 2001. That's nearly six months into Velious as starting point for the claim of lazy aggro. That doesn't prove that it was around in Kunark timeline.

Was PoP out in 2001? It couldn't have been. I remember being in Nro on September 11th and some Canadian dude told everyone in my group to sit down and gave us a William Wallace speech about how our country was strong and we would get through this and he would be praying for us. Hahaha that guy was nuts.


ANYWAY WHAT"S THE DEAL WITH THIS LEVEL 62 GUY WHO EXISTED IN 2001???

[Bruno]

Originally Posted by indiscriminate_hater [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

damn icon you just got out-researched dog

Made me lol.