NY GRAND JURY VOTES TO INDICT TRUMP

[magnetaress]

Isn't that where all the toothless swampy bayou people live? West Florida? Best gets to seasoning dey food.

West Florida is p gud. Better in the winter tho.




U can't even swim in the Atlantic without getting sucked down into the abyss or needing a surfboard tied to ur ankle. Plus more big v predatory sharks there.

[Origen]

https://i.imgur.com/x0GUXF7.pngThe world will be fine, the point is to destroy America and prevent the re-election of Trump

[aussenseiter]

The world will be fine, the point is to destroy America and prevent the re-election of Trump

Latae sententiae (https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2023/08/17/dangers-of-trump-disqualification/)

[Sadre Spinegnawer]

Fleet did exceptionally well today with its exercises. Worked on knots. But that's navy life shrug emogi.

[Lune]

Eliminating the student loan interest freeze to end the debt ceiling negotiations was a poison pill accepted by an irrational republican caucus.

Two Georgia Republican senators coming out right at the end of the 2020 election and saying they opposed $2000 in Trump stimmy money, pissing off both Trump and most American households that wanted free neetbucks, tipped the Georgia election and therefore the Senate to the Democrats.

There are 40 million student loan borrowers holding $1.6 trillion in student loan debt that each had $10-$20k ripped away from them by Republicans. The health of the economy is the single greatest predictor of the outcome of an election, especially for an incumbent president. If you think tens of thousands of dollars being on the line isn't going to tip the balance in otherwise tight races, I don't know what to tell you. GOP support is paltry among the young, and boomers are rapidly dying-- Trump's support won't have grown between 2020 and 2024. Even certain people on this very board who used to lick Trump boot are bitching about him.

Basically, if we manage to avoid a recession through Q4 2020 and if Biden doesn't keel over, leaving behind a wildly unpopular and most likely equally incompetent vice president, betting odds don't look good for Trump.

[Origen]

Who do you think Diamond Joe is gonna pick for VP because the odds are fair that VP will be president.

Maybe even the ol' switcheroo right after he assumes office in January 2025, assuming they successfully engineer another divine election theft

[aussenseiter]

Two Georgia Republican senators coming out right at the end of the 2020 election and saying they opposed $2000 in Trump stimmy money, pissing off both Trump and most American households that wanted free neetbucks, tipped the Georgia election and therefore the Senate to the Democrats.

There are 40 million student loan borrowers holding $1.6 trillion in student loan debt that each had $10-$20k ripped away from them by Republicans. The health of the economy is the single greatest predictor of the outcome of an election, especially for an incumbent president. If you think tens of thousands of dollars being on the line isn't going to tip the balance in otherwise tight races, I don't know what to tell you.

One of these is plainly unlawful and was known to be plainly unlawful by the perpetator.

Yet it was promised anyway. Curious!

[Lune]

The thing about Kamala Harris is, winning black voters is integral to the few Democrat paths to victory. This is extremely constraining and makes the prospect of an alternate VP pick unlikely. Although she is also not even all that popular with black voters, tossing her aside for someone that would help against Trump could cause a revolt if he picked the wrong person.

If the GOP playing games with the teaching of slavery and critical race theory in schools and their rhetoric about black lives matter isn't enough to deter them from voting R, I can't imagine what would be. What Democrats don't seem to understand is that Southern black people as a bloc have entirely different approaches to issues than the popular media image, which disproportionately reflects the voices of younger, college-educated black folk. Fond of Democrats but in many ways far more conservative. I think that partly explains why Bernie got stomped so hard.

Yet another terrible fucking thing about the electoral college-- catering to a few key voters in a few key states leading to a shitty vice president, a shitty leader running the direction of your country.

One of these is plainly unlawful and was known to be plainly unlawful by the perpetator.

Yet it was promised anyway. Curious!

Interesting you think voters, most of whom are low-information, give a fuck. Twenty thousand dollars and year(s) of frozen interest accrual ripped away by a Republican congress and a controversially partisan Republican supreme court. Even if you interpret it as an optics strategy by Democrats to pin an impact on American wallets to Republicans, it's still a shitty fucking move on behalf of a GOP that took the bait lol. They could have kept the interest freeze and let the supreme court take care of the $20k.

They didn't even bother presenting an alternative for student loan borrowers. At least when they were still trying to dismantle healthcare, they said the meaningless words "health savings accounts". Choosing between reducing personal debt and government debt, what voter is going to choose the latter? In the privacy of a voting booth, likely not many. Which is why Medicare has been so fastidious in spite of being insolvent.

[aussenseiter]

The thing about Kamala Harris is, winning black voters is integral to the few Democrat paths to victory. This is extremely constraining and makes the prospect of an alternate VP pick unlikely. Although she is also not even all that popular with black voters, tossing her aside for someone that would help against Trump could cause a revolt if he picked the wrong person.

If the GOP playing games with the teaching of slavery and critical race theory in schools and their rhetoric about black lives matter isn't enough to deter them from voting R, I can't imagine what would be. What Democrats don't seem to understand is that Southern black people as a bloc have entirely different approaches to issues than the popular media image, which disproportionately reflects the voices of younger, college-educated black folk. Fond of Democrats but in many ways far more conservative. I think that partly explains why Bernie got stomped so hard.



Interesting you think voters, most of whom are low-information, give a fuck. Twenty thousand dollars and year(s) of frozen interest accrual ripped away by a Republican congress and a controversially partisan Republican supreme court. Even if you interpret it as an optics strategy by Democrats to pin an impact on American wallets to Republicans, it's still a shitty fucking move on behalf of a GOP that took the bait lol. They could have kept the interest freeze and let the supreme court take care of the $20k.

They didn't even bother presenting an alternative for student loan borrowers. At least when they were still trying to dismantle healthcare, they said the meaningless words "health savings accounts". Choosing between reducing personal debt and government debt, what voter is going to choose the latter? In the privacy of a voting booth, likely not many. Which is why Medicare has been so fastidious in spite of being insolvent.

I don't think they give a fuck, but I'm not talking to them. I'm talking to you.

Also does the 3rd paragraph go with the 2nd paragraph? :eek:

[Lune]

I don't think they give a fuck, but I'm not talking to them. I'm talking to you.

Also does the 3rd paragraph go with the 2nd paragraph? :eek:

"I had $20k and now I don't" vs. "Hmmm, was this nuanced legal issue treated soundly by Biden and the supreme court? -or- How dare he try to remove $20k of my debt and have it deemed unconstitutional!"

How your household is doing financially is the end all be all of elections and Republicans fucked over 40 million households. And the act isn't even going to be noticeable to the other 260 million households, financially.

[aussenseiter]

"I had $20k and now I don't" vs. "Hmmm, was this nuanced legal issue treated soundly by Biden and the supreme court? -or- How dare he try to remove $20k of my debt and have it deemed unconstitutional!"

How your household is doing financially is the end all be all of elections and Republicans fucked over 40 million households. And the act isn't even going to be noticeable to the other 260 million households, financially.

Don't care. If you think that situation is something to celebrate, bully for you.

[Landroval]

The world will be fine, the point is to destroy America and prevent the re-election of Trump
Subverting is what I do best

[Landroval]

One of these is plainly unlawful and was known to be plainly unlawful by the perpetator.

Yet it was promised anyway. Curious!

He would know that for sure, as he was critical in crossing the political aisle to vote in the laws that make student loan debt debtslavery. It passed by one vote; Joe's vote.

[Landroval]

"I had $20k and now I don't" vs. "Hmmm, was this nuanced legal issue treated soundly by Biden and the supreme court? -or- How dare he try to remove $20k of my debt and have it deemed unconstitutional!"

How your household is doing financially is the end all be all of elections and Republicans fucked over 40 million households. And the act isn't even going to be noticeable to the other 260 million households, financially.
T
O be fair, they've both been doing some good fucking....

[aussenseiter]

He would know that for sure, as he was critical in crossing the political aisle to vote in the laws that make student loan debt debtslavery. It passed by one vote; Joe's vote.

I rate this claim as false. (https://www.senate.gov/legislative/LIS/roll_call_votes/vote1091/vote_109_1_00044.htm#position)

The Republican-led bill tightened the bankruptcy code, unleashing a huge giveaway to lenders at the expense of indebted student borrowers. At the time it faced vociferous opposition from 25 Democrats in the US Senate.

But it passed anyway, with 18 Democratic senators breaking ranks and casting their vote in favor of the bill. Of those 18, one politician stood out as an especially enthusiastic champion of the credit companies who, as it happens, had given him hundreds of thousands of dollars in campaign contributions – Joe Biden.

[Ooloo]

If you have your student loans forgiven, you get to retain all the knowledge you learned in college but it's as if you didn't pay, or it's at least like you 20% didn't pay depending on which specific policy we're talking about.

So if I paid 100k to go to college without any loans, can I get 20% and\or all of it back? Cause that 20-100k would be sweet rn

[Landroval]

I rate this claim as false. (https://www.senate.gov/legislative/LIS/roll_call_votes/vote1091/vote_109_1_00044.htm#position)

Still see Joe right there on the yea column, enthusiastically.

[Landroval]

If you have your student loans forgiven, you get to retain all the knowledge you learned in college but it's as if you didn't pay, or it's at least like you 20% didn't pay depending on which specific policy we're talking about.

So if I paid 100k to go to college without any loans, can I get 20% and\or all of it back? Cause that 20-100k would be sweet rn

That's assuming I learned anything, and was not just going for the slip of paper to accredit what I already knew beforehand. My knowledge base is a premarital asset

[Origen]

If you have your student loans forgiven, you get to retain all the knowledge you learned in college but it's as if you didn't pay, or it's at least like you 20% didn't pay depending on which specific policy we're talking about.

So if I paid 100k to go to college without any loans, can I get 20% and\or all of it back? Cause that 20-100k would be sweet rnWhat, you gonna side with the media companies suing people for pirating content?

My knowledge base is a premarital assetNo wonder she left

[aussenseiter]

Still see Joe right there on the yea column, enthusiastically.

Good hammer. They can't both be good.

[Landroval]

What, you gonna side with the media companies suing people for pirating content?

No wonder she left

I chuckled

[Duik]

Better get dat orange mussolini to get da sharpie out.

Batten down da hatches Florida!

[Landroval]

Point is, in the United States we have a principle of standing in Stark contrast to the debtor's prisons which existed in historic Europe, and reified the concept of debt-slavery.

I don't think student loans should be forgiven carte blanc, but if someone is filing for bankruptcy, student loans shouldn't have special laws which make them exempt from discharge in a bankruptcy proceeding. In a bankruptcy proceeding assets are liquidated to pay creditors what can be recovered and the remainder of the debt is discharged so as not to place the debtor in a position which likely ensures repeated bankruptcies.

The only other debts which cannot be discharged in a bankruptcy are certain kinds of back taxes and fines, typically in which the cause is tax fraud or tax evasion assessments, child support and alimony, and restitution for criminal convictions of malicious assault with intent to cause grievous bodily harm. Student loan debt does not equivocate itself in comparison to the rest of the field of discharge exemption.

[Landroval]

This means, if someone meets the qualifications of a continued undue hardship caused by the continuance of these loans in an official bankruptcy proceeding, than they should be discharged.

We live in a highly nepotistic society; it's not what you know; it's who you know. As such, since this society fails to be purely meritocratic the concept that the education received in the process of requiring student loans cannot be directly translated to either opportunity or earning potential to justify possession of the knowledge itself, as an infungible asset.

Therefore, without the bullshit changes to the law some 20 years ago, the determination of the student loan obligation should be made based upon each individual's actualized income history, and a conservative income forecast.

[unsunghero]

My home equity loan at 8.6% interest identifies as a student loan for advanced gender theory ;)

[Landroval]

My home equity loan at 8.6% interest identifies as a student loan for advanced gender theory ;)

File for bankruptcy....you'll get to walk away from the loan in a better position than someone with a student loan.

I'm not arguing with you about retarded hyperboles, Goomba. If you don't like your loan obligation for your house and your renovation, zero out in a bankruptcy proceeding; at least you can.

We're talking about bankruptcy law here, dumbass; not "should everyone with student loans get free money?". That's irrelevant to the discussion.

Ironically, prior to 1998, this was how student loans already worked. If you got zeroed out in a bankruptcy, you got zeroed out.

The reason why Biden's bill was deemed unconstitutional is because it was never meant to actually resolve the issue. The issue is, the categorization of student loan debt as "exempt from discharge", needs to be repealed. The Bankruptcy Abuse Prevention and Consumer Protection Act, and the 1998 Higher Education Amendments Act need to be repealed, applying an Oprah prize of 20k is what got struck down; he never intended to actually address the issue, directly, and never will, no one in the establishment even wants to.

We're talking about a bunch of greedy ass government Jews on both sides of the aisle here, why would they? Actually resolving the issue by repositioning the debt class of student loans back to where they were classed before is the last thing (either party of) the Jew wants. So they keep you here arguing over red herrings, while the commie Jew says "muh capitalism". It's Jewry all around, when the solution is actually much simpler; repeal those two acts.

[Patriam1066]

Who do you think Diamond Joe is gonna pick for VP because the odds are fair that VP will be president.

Maybe even the ol' switcheroo right after he assumes office in January 2025, assuming they successfully engineer another divine election theft

Hunter

[Patriam1066]

What is Georgia even like these days? Didn't they almost think Hershel Walker was a wise choice for leadership in these times? I know every elected politician is always laden with state and party professionals who do the actual work, but jeez. Does it have to be so obvious, and we gotta pretend?

Humid but not like Texas. Texas is like a fucking oven this year

[Patriam1066]

Lutherism bad (https://crisismagazine.com/opinion/the-protestant-doctrine-that-gave-us-pro-trans-churches)

The pope is a 75 year old Argentinian homosexual who has never seen a vagina. Get a grip, you let Constantinople fall

[Patriam1066]

Steve Sarkisian has failed upwards his entire time coaching and now he's been given Peyton Manning's kid or whatever. I'm convinced he's a made man.

His ancestors wore the purple and were always loyal satraps

[Lune]

My home equity loan at 8.6% interest identifies as a student loan for advanced gender theory ;)

I hope to god you didn't actually take a home equity loan at 8.6%

[aussenseiter]

The pope is a 75 year old Argentinian homosexual who has never seen a vagina. Get a grip, you let Constantinople fall

udCxof3A4BA

[Lune]

The pope is a 75 year old Argentinian homosexual who has never seen a vagina. Get a grip, you let Constantinople fall

based

[Landroval]

The long-winded analysis of the student loan matter is much more nuanced and rooted in class division. Corporations wanted to institute college-education as normative employment criterion, but collegiate-education was the bastion of upper class privilege.

In order to circumvent the plausible allegations of utilizing scholastic achievement as a discriminatory hurdle, student loan offerings needed to be widely expanded to accommodate a lower class influx of students which would not conventionally qualify for student loans with the conventionally much more selective financial criteria for student loan qualifications.
Because of this, and in an attempt to make private universities more prestigious (see: exclusive), the laws that were drafted to ensure, and insure, student loan payback were made much more strict and unforgiving on the private student loan market, in order to ensure that the theretofore "upper class" would continue to monopolize the chart of alumni moving forward at prestigious private universities, on the basis that their payback was already assured by intergenerational wealth and nepotism.

Public student loan, however, were made to be much more widely available to the layperson with the caveat that to ensure the continuance of "class permanence" they, too, would be made inescapable in bankruptcy proceedings, as it was highly probable that many of the "lower class" students would remain impoverished, as continued discriminatory and nepotistic hiring practices would ensure they were excluded from the lucrative positions their now attainable educational-acheivement would otherwise qualify them for.

As such, the current status of student loans being inescapable in bankruptcy proceedings is made to solidify class distinctions, and failure to meet their obligations results in a drastic marring of one's credit score which necessarily and fundamentally perpetuates class inequalities.

Of course, there are racial undercurrents within these class distinctions, as is obvious to anyone with even a modicum of understanding about WHO holds the majority of this toxic student debt (predominately women, and majoritive black women), but the primary goal of the extant legislation on the matter is the collaboration of corporate and government institituons, to perpetuate social-class-based inequalities.

[Lune]

The long-winded analysis of the student loan matter is much more nuanced and rooted in class division. Corporations wanted to institute college-education as normative employment criterion, but collegiate-education was the bastion of upper class privilege.

In order to circumvent the plausible allegations of utilizing scholastic achievement as a discriminatory hurdle, student loan offerings needed to be widely expanded to accommodate a lower class influx of students which would not conventionally qualify for student loans with the conventionally much more selective financial criteria for student loan qualifications.
Because of this, and in an attempt to make private universities more prestigious (see: exclusive), the laws that were drafted to ensure, and insure, student loan payback were made much more strict and unforgiving on the private student loan market, in order to ensure that the theretofore "upper class" would continue to monopolize the chart of alumni moving forward at prestigious private universities, on the basis that their payback was already assured by intergenerational wealth and nepotism.

Public student loan, however, were made to be much more widely available to the layperson with the caveat that to ensure the continuance of "class permanence" they, too, would be made inescapable in bankruptcy proceedings, as it was highly probable that many of the "lower class" students would remain impoverished, as continued discriminatory and nepotistic hiring practices would ensure they were excluded from the lucrative positions their now attainable educational-acheivement would otherwise qualify them for.

As such, the current status of student loans being inescapable in bankruptcy proceedings is made to solidify class distinctions, and failure to meet their obligations results in a drastic marring of one's credit score which necessarily and fundamentally perpetuates class inequalities.

Of course, there are racial undercurrents within these class distinctions, as is obvious to anyone with even a modicum of understanding about WHO holds the majority of this toxic student debt (predominately women, and majoritive black women), but the primary goal of the extant legislation on the matter is the collaboration of corporate and government institituons, to perpetuate social-class-based inequalities.

Agreed, without student loans the way they are, getting into college would probably be like it is in the UK.... really fucking hard.

they have no qualms about piping their Elizondo types right into trade schools. And I don't mean to disparage trade schools

[unsunghero]

I hope to god you didn't actually take a home equity loan at 8.6%

Ya, with an almost 800 credit score as well

Roof needed repairs before monsoon season (which ended up being a dud…) amongst other things

My original bank wouldn’t even do a home equity loan, saying they don’t trust the housing market to stay at values they currently are

[unsunghero]

^
But if government won’t help with the loan, I’ll accept $$ help from anywhere, just sayin not asking ;)

[Lune]

I'm inclined to agree with the bank, not because I think housing values are going to drop, but because when interest rates come down, the loan is going to be a lot cheaper. But if you truly needed a new roof immediately I guess your hands were tied. But 8.6%, ouch

Indications are that households are beginning to exhaust their COVID-era savings and hiring has slowed a bit. Even if it's an actual soft landing and not a recession, I imagine they may very well drop interest rates within the next 2-4 years. There is so much pent up home demand at this point with interest rate fuckery and long term tight market I can't imagine a big decline in real estate.

[aussenseiter]

Providence conspires against Ron DeSoros

aZxJsTN1848

[Nibblewitz]

Powell may actually stick the soft landing but China’s economy is fucked and they will drag us into a recession with them.

[Lune]

Powell may actually stick the soft landing but China’s economy is fucked and they will drag us into a recession with them.

This would have certainly been true 10 years ago, but China only accounts for 7% of US exports and our financial systems are almost completely disentangled. Could still happen if it reverberates around the world enough.

The one thing Trump did I agreed with was the trade war with China

[Patriam1066]

China is a shit hole and that will only become more obvious as time goes by. The only people who can take down the American economy and political experiment are Americans. I wouldn’t put it past us, we aren’t sending our best

[aussenseiter]

Canada warns LGBT travellers of US risks (https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-66654134)

Canada has issued a new travel warning to its LGBT citizens planning to visit the United States.

[Trexller]

Canada warns LGBT travellers of US risks (https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-66654134)

yeah

we're just all sick of the smallest demographic being the most loud and obnoxious

nobody actually cares about your gender preference or sexuality, and that means you're accepted.

this is what equality looks like

if you ask for more, then that's too much.

[aussenseiter]

yeah

we're just all sick of the smallest demographic being the most loud and obnoxious

nobody actually cares about your gender preference or sexuality, and that means you're accepted.

this is what equality looks like

if you ask for more, then that's too much.

The moose buggerers are committing election interference again. 🇺🇲

[unsunghero]

This would have certainly been true 10 years ago, but China only accounts for 7% of US exports and our financial systems are almost completely disentangled. Could still happen if it reverberates around the world enough.

The one thing Trump did I agreed with was the trade war with China

China’s #1 export are droplet-borne viruses

Can’t wait to see what their labs, sorry I mean wet markets, churn out next!

[Trexller]

China’s #1 export are droplet-borne viruses

Can’t wait to see what their labs, sorry I mean wet markets, churn out next!

they (whoever) overplayed that hand. They showed their true colors prematurely.

What they should have done, is release the virus, offer their pre-made solution as they planned, without making it a ridiculous political mess. That way, when they release their next pLandemic, they would have had modern data sets to release and back up their claims.

Upon the release of the following plandemic, the public would acknowledge that they shoulda woulda coulda, and "They" would have had a public, social and gov't platform to legitimately stomp citizens' rights.

Having tried to do everything-all-at-once, the citizens realized that "They" never had an interest in public health, but rather stifling and curtailing basic freedoms.

now Globobozo has to go back to the drawing board to figure out how to implement their "final solution"

my guess is that it'll be something like a world war 3, you're gonna have to literally bomb cities if you want Americans to surrender their rights.

even that is a stretch tho, because we all know what happened to Rome when that nation surrendered their control to a war-time leader.

[MrSparkle001]

yeah

we're just all sick of the smallest demographic being the most loud and obnoxious

nobody actually cares about your gender preference or sexuality, and that means you're accepted.

this is what equality looks like

if you ask for more, then that's too much.

https://comb.io/Zfm7yk

Doesn't exist on youtube to embed

[Origen]

my guess is that it'll be something like a world war 3, you're gonna have to literally bomb cities if you want Americans to surrender their rights.Nah it's cheaper to just show the reactionary electorate pictures of cities, then they vote in people who take away rights that others have long held out of misdirected fear.

[aussenseiter]

Nah it's cheaper to just show the reactionary electorate pictures of cities, then they vote in people who take away rights that others have long held out of misdirected fear.

Which rights? Glucksberg was a long time ago too so cut that sandwich in half.

[Lune]

China’s #1 export are droplet-borne viruses

Can’t wait to see what their labs, sorry I mean wet markets, churn out next!

It's funny, in the end, COVID ended up hurting them more than it hurt us. As much as they tried to hide that fact. Mainly because miracle mRNA technology.

Murica #1. Europe too, and Turkey (where the Biontech folks came from)

[Origen]

Which rights? Glucksberg was a long time ago too so cut that sandwich in half.Please see avatar

[aussenseiter]

Please see avatar

Bostock?

Give me your lunch.

[Trexller]

Nah it's cheaper to just show the reactionary electorate pictures of cities, then they vote in people who take away rights that others have long held out of misdirected fear.

you can't provide any examples

[Origen]

you can't provide any examplesPlease see "The Republican Party" for your examples

I provide lists, oh it's too much!
I make claims, oh not enough examples!

Y'all just fulla shit

[Trexller]

Please see "The Republican Party" for your examples

I provide lists, oh it's too much!
I make claims, oh not enough examples!

Y'all just fulla shit

I didn't expect anything

You're just trolling, and I'm just calling you out on it.

[Origen]

Oh my gosh I've been called a troll online, what a disaster this is for me personally.

[Ekco]

https://i.imgur.com/Ni1TTIo.png
>get asked by the press if you're running for reelection.
>forget where you are and proceed to shit your pants.

even Rome didn't get this fucking retarded.

[Lune]

>get asked by the press if you're running for reelection.
>forget where you are and proceed to shit your pants.

even Rome didn't get this fucking retarded.

lol we're fucked

Imagine the sheer selfishness and denial on behalf of both he and Feinstein to not resign and retire. This isn't a trivial position, it's a leadership post with unimaginable responsibility and influence over 300 million Americans. Fucking ghouls.

[Trexller]

the lights are on but nobody is home on both sides of the aisle, yet both sides of the aisle insist the other guy is the problem

how about this: you gotta retire from public service at 75. everyone in every public job. if you're elected, you are disqualified from office if your 75th birthday will occur while in office.

[Lune]

https://i.imgur.com/J7BLfW9.png

Are you running for re-election sir?

"mluuhhhh..."

[Sadre Spinegnawer]

Who do you think Diamond Joe is gonna pick for VP because the odds are fair that VP will be president.

Maybe even the ol' switcheroo right after he assumes office in January 2025, assuming they successfully engineer another divine election theft

Diamond Joe deserves someone of equal stature and gravitas
https://whnt.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/20/2021/10/GettyImages-1340098816.jpg?strip=1

[Sadre Spinegnawer]

Hey, what country should we invade?

[Ekco]

Hey, what country should we invade?

Mexico, the cartels are the new Taliban and they hate us for our freedumbs

[aussenseiter]

the lights are on but nobody is home on both sides of the aisle, yet both sides of the aisle insist the other guy is the problem

how about this: you gotta retire from public service at 75. everyone in every public job. if you're elected, you are disqualified from office if your 75th birthday will occur while in office.

Mitch can name his successor if R's win Kentucky Governor in November.

Andy Beshear would play games with it.

[PRogers]

New Plan!
Republican Congressman Andrew Clyde. He tells a Newsmax host of his scheme to "defund" ANY investigations and prosecutions of "political candidates" at the local, state, or federal level. He's mostly talking about the guy with 91 felonies but yeah, run for office, you cannot be prosecuted.

You could murder millions of people without fear of prosecution. Those republicans sure love the idea of freedom. If you're rich, running for president, you are literally free to do anything. Why not commit all those crimes, then leave the country..?

He really just came out and said that on NEWSmax. lol

[PRogers]

https://i.imgur.com/J7BLfW9.png

Are you running for re-election sir?

"mluuhhhh..."

This is only like the 4th time its happened. No biggie. <~~~ not scandal

Joe biden blinked the other day during an interview. <~~ scandal.

[Ooloo]

Haha yeah man joe biden is totally fine all the concerns about his age and health are overblown!

Also he's a gigantic criminal and terrible person who plagiarizes speeches. But he's a dem so who cares.

[PRogers]

China’s #1 export are droplet-borne viruses

Can’t wait to see what their labs, sorry I mean wet markets, churn out next!

Cull the cops again? Bring it on.

[PRogers]

Haha yeah man joe biden is totally fine all the concerns about his age and health are overblown!

Also he's a gigantic criminal and terrible person who plagiarizes speeches. But he's a dem so who cares.

How many felony charges is he facing?

Whats that...? Cant hear you.

[aussenseiter]

New Plan!
Republican Congressman Andrew Clyde. He tells a Newsmax host of his scheme to "defund" ANY investigations and prosecutions of "political candidates" at the local, state, or federal level. He's mostly talking about the guy with 91 felonies but yeah, run for office, you cannot be prosecuted.

You could murder millions of people without fear of prosecution. Those republicans sure love the idea of freedom. If you're rich, running for president, you are literally free to do anything. Why not commit all those crimes, then leave the country..?

He really just came out and said that on NEWSmax. lol

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holman_rule

[Ooloo]

How many felony charges is he facing?

Whats that...? Cant hear you.

Get back to me when they get even a single conviction, which is all that matters. These people are children, they aren't serious about justice or "democracy" at all. They're literally trying to keep a guy off the ballot who half the country wants to elect. It's a complete joke.

[unsunghero]

Cull the cops again? Bring it on.

Huh? Skip your meds today?

[Ooloo]

Trump said "I think the election was stolen" FELONY CHARGE ohhhh!!!! In your FACE!

(Hint: he's not the bad guy in this scenario)

[booter]

Trump said "I think the election was stolen" FELONY CHARGE ohhhh!!!! In your FACE!

(Hint: he's not the bad guy in this scenario)

conveniently forgetting the classified docs felonies (which he admitted to on tape)

the actual election interference he committed

trying to literally nullify votes of americans (everyone should be pissed, this is sacred in democracy)

Get back to me when they get even a single conviction, which is all that matters. These people are children, they aren't serious about justice or "democracy" at all. They're literally trying to keep a guy off the ballot who half the country wants to elect. It's a complete joke.

half is very generous, maybe 30%

[Trexller]

conveniently forgetting the classified docs felonies (which he admitted to on tape)

the actual election interference he committed

trying to literally nullify votes of americans (everyone should be pissed, this is sacred in democracy)



half is very generous, maybe 30%

you got nothin to talk about prior to any conviction

there are like 5 people in the world who have all the details of these cases, none of us are them.

[aussenseiter]

trying to literally nullify votes of americans (everyone should be pissed, this is sacred in democracy)

What about defective ballots? Should those be "fixed"? What if it changes the outcome?

[aussenseiter]

Georgia's rejection rate went from 6.4% to 0.4% comparing 2016 and 2020 respectively.

🤔

[Landroval]

lol we're fucked

Imagine the sheer selfishness and denial on behalf of both he and Feinstein to not resign and retire. This isn't a trivial position, it's a leadership post with unimaginable responsibility and influence over 300 million Americans. Fucking ghouls.

Unimaginable responsibility?

I guarantee you every single member of Congress and the Senate does less actual work per day than any of us...even our resident NEETs who still have to cook their own food and clean up around the house. They're almost 90 and they're essentially nursing home status with daily medical upkeep that occupies the lion's share of their daily routine, yet they still "accomplish" the work-related tasks laid out in front of them on a daily basis. That's how paltry their "actual" responsibility is.

I'm voting against every incumbent regardless of party affiliation. I suggest you do the same.

[Sadre Spinegnawer]

Mitch got froze again
https://media.tenor.com/aQXNOb9uXGQAAAAd/elsa-horse.gif

[Ooloo]

conveniently forgetting the classified docs felonies (which he admitted to on tape)

the actual election interference he committed

trying to literally nullify votes of americans (everyone should be pissed, this is sacred in democracy)


You don't really know much about what does and doesn't constitute evidence, do you?

"I really hate this guy so I want the allegations against him to all be completely true and I'm sure they are because other people who also hate him said they are" isn't evidence.

[Origen]

You know who does know what constitutes evidence?

Courts

[Ooloo]

You know who does know what constitutes evidence?

Courts

And yet, casey anthony was somehow found not guilty of murdering her daughter. OJ simpson was found not guilty of murdering his ex wife and ron goldman.

It's almost like........ they can be wrong.

[Ooloo]

Quick quiz: It's not only legal but constitutionally protected to object to election results. What did donald trump do that was illegal, and what proof is there to substantiate his guilt?

This *will* be on the final.

[Trexller]

You know who does know what constitutes evidence?

Courts

they don't seem to have much, it's all rather tenous. but the point isn't to jail trump, it's to complicate his life long enough to trash his chance at election, and to do so without making his base rally behind him.

dems are walking a thin rope here with this strategy, i know you aren't dumb enough to believe that they are a force of justice.

I've posted this video before, booter needs to see it and so do you i guess. this guy explains it all really well.

SbIhNmoZLJQ

[Origen]

I didn't watch that youtube video and the fact that you think it's "democrats" doing this shit is pretty rich, like 90% of the people going after his ass are people he appointed.

[aussenseiter]

You know who does know what constitutes evidence?

Courts

What is justiciable?

[Origen]

Quick quiz: It's not only legal but constitutionally protected to object to election results. What did donald trump do that was illegal, and what proof is there to substantiate his guilt?

This *will* be on the final.Hey Ooloo believe it or not I am not a judge

And I have to say this like, fifty times daily but no I'm not a lawyer either

What is justiciable?A word that can be spelled wrong a few different ways, look it up yourself

[Records]

...I've posted this video before, [...] this guy explains it all really well.

Wasn't this guy on 60 minutes a while ago, on a segment about fake news and people pushing misinformation online.

I think his post that he created was, "Hillary has Parkinson's, claims Physician."
But after they investigated the story, it was just a random physician and not a practitioner that even looked at Hillary in an exam room lol

And after they said since this is false do you want to say anything about this, like retract your statement, and he said no no it's true, im a lawyer i understand evidence. And the 60 minutes reporter said, well Hillary's staffers said it wasn't true, and he said "what Credibility does Hillary have?" And the interviewer said, what about you?

[Ooloo]

Origen don't care bout nothin!

Yes, this is evident.

[aussenseiter]

A word that can be spelled wrong a few different ways, look it up yourself

Is political speech and statements usually justiciable?

[Lune]

It will be for a jury to decide :)

Hope this helps.

[aussenseiter]

It will be for a jury to decide :)

Hope this helps.

Hey if you can't answer whether it was legal or not, you can't get mad at someone for asking if it was legal or not.

[Ooloo]

It will be for a jury to decide :)

Hope this helps.

There's literally no jury who could fairly decide a trump case, and that goes for juries that might be partial to him as well. He's too famous.

Also, the charges are completely ridiculous. If you actually care about blind justice, you might say something like "I hate trump but there's no way he gets a fair trial" etc... But you goons are like giddy over the prospect of him going to prison for a bajillion years on the flimsiest of charges.

He's not the bad guy in this scenario.

[Origen]

Origen don't care bout nothin!

Yes, this is evident.There's plenty of things I care about. But it isn't Bernie Sanders on trial

[Origen]

Is political speech and statements usually justiciable?Depends on the statements, my incendiary statements haven't yet led to a shitload of dumbasses doing attempted murder on Nancy Pelosi

[Lune]

There's literally no jury who could fairly decide a trump case, and that goes for juries that might be partial to him as well. He's too famous.

Also, the charges are completely ridiculous. If you actually care about blind justice, you might say something like "I hate trump but there's no way he gets a fair trial" etc... But you goons are like giddy over the prospect of him going to prison for a bajillion years on the flimsiest of charges.

He's not the bad guy in this scenario.

What do we do then. He has been charged with a crime. Should we just not try him? Are ex-presidents immune to criminal liability?

I think when every single American citizen is equally contaminated, no citizen is contaminated.

You were never going to find an American juror that hadn't heard of OJ Simpson.

[aussenseiter]

Depends on the statements, my incendiary statements haven't yet led to a shitload of dumbasses doing attempted murder on Nancy Pelosi

He was just a handyman helping Paul hang up an omelet in homage to Her Grace's graces.

[aussenseiter]

What do we do then. He has been charged with a crime. Should we just not try him? Are ex-presidents immune to criminal liability?

It's a little bit of whiplash seeing this stance after the 2020 abolitionist rhetoric.

Just kidding, I knew it was insincere.

[Ekco]

had jury duty monday, reminded me how fucked our system is, they had to spend about 30 minutes explaining what "beyond a reasonable doubt" means after multiple people said they couldn't convict without being 100% sure and various other things people fucked up answers on for the questionnaire.

felt like i was in a scene from Idiocracy
https://cps-static.rovicorp.com/2/Open/FanTV_2555/Program/6201089/_derived_jpg_q90_584x800_m0/biCLWvxw5VbZVRDs8kw8LK6azqk.jpg

[booter]

And yet, casey anthony was somehow found not guilty of murdering her daughter. OJ simpson was found not guilty of murdering his ex wife and ron goldman.

It's almost like........ they can be wrong.

DONT SAY ANYTHING UNTIL THERE IS A CONVITION

already setting up your arguments for if there is a conviction lol

nothing gets past these geniuses ~ :o

[Ooloo]

What do we do then. He has been charged with a crime. Should we just not try him? Are ex-presidents immune to criminal liability?

I think when every single American citizen is equally contaminated, no citizen is contaminated.

You were never going to find an American juror that hadn't heard of OJ Simpson.

What? Tons of people have no idea who oj simpson is, even today. Sure, he was a famous football player. He wasn't the literal president of the entire country over which the jury pool is being selected.

Also there were not throngs of people completely poised, eager and ready to convict OJ simpson on literally any charge before he killed his wife. The evidence against him was absolutely overwhelming from day 1, in contrast to this trump derangement performative clown show which is the legal equivalent to an angry kid getting revenge on their older brother for teasing them.

The charges should be dismissed. That's what we should do, because they have no merit. The charges against OJ simpson should not have been dismissed, because they had a *ton* of merit- because they had a *ton* of unambiguous evidence against him. Get the difference yet?

[Ooloo]

DONT SAY ANYTHING UNTIL THERE IS A CONVITION

already setting up your arguments for if there is a conviction lol

nothing gets past these geniuses ~ :o

The "evidence" is total horse shit. Please tell me specifically what he actually did that was illegal, since you seem brimming with certainty that he's guilty.

[Origen]

I'm gonna email Fani Willis again, will update with response

[Ooloo]

Fani Willis as we all know is a totally unbiased professional who is only interested in justice and not a crazy activist idiot.

Even CNN was questioning the legitimacy of this stuff talk about yikes.

[Ekco]

What? Tons of people have no idea who oj simpson is

if you didn't know who the Juice was you'd fail an age verification quiz for a video game in 1987.

hilarious that 7 years later answer b. would become correct also.

https://i.imgur.com/aGuKAwZ.png

[aussenseiter]

I'm gonna email Fani Willis again, will update with response

Without comment (https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-66443921)

Born in Inglewood, California in 1971, Ms Willis was raised primarily by her father, a criminal defence lawyer and member of the Black Panthers, the radical political party which championed black rights.

[Ooloo]

Wait so was the correct answer D?

[Ekco]

Wait so was the correct answer D?

yeah, i assume it was regarding something he said or someone else said about him playing football, idk
https://allowe.com/games/larry/tips-manuals/lsl1-age-quiz.html

[Ooloo]

I mean I think he did demonstrate that he is, in fact, no one to fool with.

[Origen]

Without comment (https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-66443921)Life is full of twists and turns!

[unsunghero]

Anyone saying that courts are infallible should also start campaigning for the death penalty because pretty sure “what if they got it wrong?” is the number one reason to be against it

[Trexller]

I mean I think he did demonstrate that he is, in fact, no one to fool with.

either that or faye resnick's cartel connections got the wrong idea.

the manner of the murder is something that doesn't sit well, nicole and ron had columbian neckties (throat cut, tongue pulled through)

this isn't the work of a man who snapped

if it was OJ, it was all done in a 22 minute window

but we all know that man could run really fast

[Patriam1066]

https://i.imgur.com/Ni1TTIo.png
>get asked by the press if you're running for reelection.
>forget where you are and proceed to shit your pants.

even Rome didn't get this fucking retarded.

Rome merged political and military authority

Mitch McConnell couldn’t lead a Girl Scout troop much less a legion

[Lune]

The charges should be dismissed. That's what we should do, because they have no merit. The charges against OJ simpson should not have been dismissed, because they had a *ton* of merit- because they had a *ton* of unambiguous evidence against him. Get the difference yet?

lol

"The charges should be dismissed, because in my opinion they have no merit".

That's what courts are for! If they have no merit, they will be dismissed. Btw the mere fact that there have been indictments means a judge has looked at the evidence and determined there is a case worthy of trial. And I'm assuming based on your lack of an answer that you think ex-presidents should be immune to criminal prosecution, in which case it's time to send the Barack Obama, George Bush, Bill Clinton presidential immunity Voltron to mete out justice. They can pull Jimmy Carter's hospital bed behind too.

[Trexller]

in 1944, six-time Socialist Party candidate for US President Norman Thomas had thoughts about the Democratic Party.

“The American people will never knowingly adopt socialism. But, under the name of ‘liberalism,’ they will adopt every fragment of the socialist program, until one day America will be a socialist nation, without knowing how it happened…. I no longer need to run as a Presidential Candidate for the Socialist Party. The Democratic Party has adopted our platform.”

[aussenseiter]

Btw the mere fact that there have been indictments means a judge has looked at the evidence and determined there is a case worthy of trial.

Elaborate on the silly thing you said. Do you really think this?

[Lune]

https://i.imgur.com/WpTfKxQ.jpg

Elaborate on the silly thing you said. Do you really think this?

Learn what an indictment is.

Or, you know, read the constitution, specifically the fifth amendment.

[aussenseiter]

Btw the mere fact that there have been indictments means a judge has looked at the evidence and determined there is a case worthy of trial.

Elaborate on the silly thing you said. Do you really think this?





Learn what an indictment is.

Or, you know, read the constitution, specifically the fifth amendment.

https://twitter.com/BadLegalTakes/

[Lune]

https://twitter.com/BadLegalTakes/

here ya go bud. Either a judge or grand jury has seen and evaluated the prosecution's evidence in all of Trump's trials.

The Fifth Amendment of the United States Constitution states in part: "No person shall be held to answer for a capital, or otherwise infamous crime, unless on a presentment or indictment of a Grand Jury, except in cases arising in the land or naval forces, or in the Militia when in actual service in time of War or public danger." The requirement of an indictment has not been incorporated against the states; therefore, even though the federal government uses grand juries and indictments, not all states do.[15] As of 2019, all states besides Pennsylvania and Connecticut still use grand juries to indict suspects for some offenses.[16]

In many jurisdictions that use grand juries, prosecutors often have a choice between seeking an indictment from a grand jury and filing a charging document directly with the court.[17] Such a document is usually called an information, accusation, or complaint, to distinguish it from a grand-jury indictment. To protect the suspect's due process rights in felony cases (where the suspect's interest in liberty is at stake), there is usually a preliminary hearing, at which a judge determines whether there was probable cause to arrest the suspect who is in custody. If the judge finds such probable cause, they bind, or hold over, the suspect for trial.[17]

The substance of an indictment or other charging instrument is usually the same, regardless of the jurisdiction: it consists of a short and plain statement of where, when, and how the defendant allegedly committed the offense. Each offense is usually set out in a separate count. Indictments for complex crimes, particularly those involving conspiracy or numerous counts, may run to hundreds of pages. In other cases, however, an indictment for a crime as serious as murder may consist of a single sheet of paper.

Indictable offenses are tried by jury, unless the accused waives the right to a jury trial. Even though the Sixth Amendment of the Constitution mandates the right to a jury trial in any criminal prosecution, the vast majority of criminal cases in the US are resolved by the plea-bargaining process.[17]

[Trexller]

Elaborate on the silly thing you said. Do you really think this?

how dare you

all judges in the USA are 100% free of political bias, errors in judgement and personal ambitions.

[Lune]

how dare you

all judges in the USA are 100% free of political bias, errors in judgement and personal ambitions.

Judges are fallible. Next steps? Never charge an ex president with a crime? If judges are fallible, why is it appropriate to charge you or I with a crime but not an ex president?

You people are hilariously desperate to defend ya boy from even an attempt at justice.

[aussenseiter]

here ya go bud. Either a judge or grand jury has seen and evaluated the prosecution's evidence in all of Trump's trials.

No person shall be held to answer for a capital, or otherwise infamous crime, unless on a presentment or indictment of a Grand Jury

Thank you for immediately proving yourself wrong, ya big retard.

[Ooloo]

lol

"The charges should be dismissed, because in my opinion they have no merit".

That's what courts are for! If they have no merit, they will be dismissed. Btw the mere fact that there have been indictments means a judge has looked at the evidence and determined there is a case worthy of trial. And I'm assuming based on your lack of an answer that you think ex-presidents should be immune to criminal prosecution, in which case it's time to send the Barack Obama, George Bush, Bill Clinton presidential immunity Voltron to mete out justice. They can pull Jimmy Carter's hospital bed behind too.

Okay cool so I'm assuming your position is that all charges ever brought against anyone are all equally valid? There's no such thing as an obviously frivolous, partisan, politically motivated prosecution? There's nothing asymmetrical in the way trump is being treated vs dems who have done the exact same things, often in more egregious ways?

You have to have a childlike naivete about the world to believe that. The magic impartial judge who also hates trump's guts decided it's all on the up-and-up!

[Lune]

Okay cool so I'm assuming your position is that all charges ever brought against anyone are all equally valid? There's no such thing as an obviously frivolous, partisan, politically motivated prosecution? There's nothing asymmetrical in the way trump is being treated vs dems who have done the exact same things, often in more egregious ways?

You have to have a childlike naivete about the world to believe that. The magic impartial judge who also hates trump's guts decided it's all on the up-and-up!

My position is these charges aren't valid as a 'crime' until he's convicted. Until then it's just a court case.

"frivolous, partisan, politically motivated prosecution?" This would not have made it past the indictment stage across three separate cases, including one Trump-appointed judge that is still in that stage and trying to drag it out as long as possible.

[Trexller]

Judges are fallible. Next steps? Never charge an ex president with a crime? If judges are fallible, why is it appropriate to charge you or I with a crime but not an ex president?

You people are hilariously desperate to defend ya boy from even an attempt at justice.

all politicians are dirty AF, they always have been. we used to let it slide because we'd have to indict every president, their cabinet, all of congress etc etc. Their crimes, while being crimes, any crimes, are never enough to destroy a nation over.

indicting a president is a precedent that the nation will never recover from. From this point to eternity, every president and politician you want out of your way will be innundated with legal troubles.

it's gonna be messy, bloody, and nothing will get done. everyone will be polarized because each side believes if you aren't with us, you're against us.

look at yourself, you can't understand im not a trump supporter, you hear me say conservative type things and your brain short circuits into a single thought:

ORANGE MAN BAAAADDD

[aussenseiter]

all politicians are dirty AF, they always have been. we used to let it slide because we'd have to indict every president, their cabinet, all of congress etc etc. Their crimes, while being crimes, any crimes, are never enough to destroy a nation over.

indicting a president is a precedent that the nation will never recover from. From this point to eternity, every president and politician you want out of your way will be innundated with legal troubles.

Good take. Sucks that it has to be orange fatty bum bum that may benefit from it, but it do.

[Homesteaded]

https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2023/aug/29/california-district-accused-transitioning-girl-wit/

[Trexller]

maybe he'll have a heart attack from all the viagra and german cough medicine

this is reality now tho, politicians were previously hyper-sensitive to political optics, now that's gonna increase x1000

republicans have already started in on Biden crimes now

it's just gonna be a cycle that plays out every 4 years. President gets elected, the legal troubles pile up for 4 years, president is incapacitated by dealing with all their legal problems, and is unable to actually do the job of running the US.

and that's exactly how globobozo wants it

just like 1861, Democrats don't give a fuck about this country unless they can convince everyone that they are victims and that the party is their only salvation. If they can't have it, then nobody can.

unlike 1861, republicans are not prepared for this fight, nor do they even understand how they are being fought.

[mcoy]

yeah, i assume it was regarding something he said or someone else said about him playing football, idk
https://allowe.com/games/larry/tips-manuals/lsl1-age-quiz.html

I'd get that wrong every time - I just hit alt-x to skip the age verification.

Insert Buckazoid!

-Mcoy

[Ekco]

Buckazoid!


jesus, i need to replay those.

[Elizondo]

https://docs.cdn.yougov.com/aif0ri8ye5/econtoplines.pdf

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[unsunghero]

https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2023/aug/29/california-district-accused-transitioning-girl-wit/

Appreciate this story, this is interesting

There’s a lot of nuance to this though. A parent disappointed with what public school is doing with their kid really should look at either private school or homeschooling, those are options available

And I understand the school’s concern about not wanting to “out” a child who might be gay, the timing and method of reveal of that to their parents should ideally be up to the child. For counselors anyway, a child’s sexuality is confidential, a counselor is under no obligation to reveal that to a parent like they are of thoughts of self-harm or suicide (those the counselor ARE obligated to reveal to parent)

But gender identity and sexuality are different, it seems schools are lumping in gender identity with the “don’t out kids as being gay to their parents” rule when these are two very different things

[Lune]

https://docs.cdn.yougov.com/aif0ri8ye5/econtoplines.pdf


Careful there, reading too much into the poll tea-leaves didn't work out very well for Democrats in 2016 or Republicans in 2020

[aussenseiter]

Appreciate this story, this is interesting

There’s a lot of nuance to this though. A parent disappointed with what public school is doing with their kid really should look at either private school or homeschooling, those are options available

And I understand the school’s concern about not wanting to “out” a child who might be gay, the timing and method of reveal of that to their parents should ideally be up to the child. For counselors anyway, a child’s sexuality is confidential, a counselor is under no obligation to reveal that to a parent like they are of thoughts of self-harm or suicide (those the counselor ARE obligated to reveal to parent)

But gender identity and sexuality are different, it seems schools are lumping in gender identity with the “don’t out kids as being gay to their parents” rule when these are two very different things

Usually you need a court order to act in loco parentis.

[Botten]

https://docs.cdn.yougov.com/aif0ri8ye5/econtoplines.pdf


Woah woah wait. This wasn’t constructed by phone interviews but web-bases questionnaire.

With the amount of accounts flying around here we are to expect these 1500 web surveys weren’t filled out ever by the same person… hell bot - for that matter.

Nahhh caulk up another Fail for EZ

[Botten]

https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2023/aug/29/california-district-accused-transitioning-girl-wit/

Seems to be a puff piece by a bigot site.

A settlement was made to make the issue go away.

In fact the UBU club was only temporarily suspended and is coming back in the school.

Link to the summary of the actual case.

https://web.archive.org/web/20220710033949/https://www.spreckelsdistrict.org/wp-content/uploads/2022/07/Executive-Summary-Final.pdf

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[unsunghero]

Usually you need a court order to act in loco parentis.

I can only speak from the mental health side of things, but a parent has a right to not only sit in on every one of their child’s counseling sessions (good luck getting the kid to open up then though, heh), but also to request the counselor’s case notes for any session they didn’t attend

However

A counselor can choose to redact any information which might cause psychological or physical harm to the child. An example of this would be a child’s sexuality, if the kid has conveyed that the parent does not support that sexuality and would likely have some sort of response emotionally damaging to the child. Redacted information would be crossed out with a black bar

A counselor cannot redact information which are threats of harm the child said, those have to be immediately communicated to the parent

[unsunghero]

^
My small issue with this is kids tend to catastrophize things, you wouldn’t believe the amount of kids who claimed their parents would be “furious” at them, etc, then through follow up found out none of that shit ever happened

Even we adults tend to screw up and personalize things, a kid is 10x worse at that. Sometimes a parent will just express frustration that their kid is choosing to open up to their peers and counselors and not their own mom or dad who cares deeply about them. It’s a combination of hurt and frustration expressed from the parent, but what does the child see? A disappointed, scowling parent. And so the child interprets this as “see, mom is furious at me”

So when a child reports potential psychological harm from a parent finding out about something, I always wonder if it is just another possible misunderstanding

[magnetaress]

Woah woah wait. This wasn’t constructed by phone interviews but web-bases questionnaire.

With the amount of accounts flying around here we are to expect these 1500 web surveys weren’t filled out ever by the same person… hell bot - for that matter.

Nahhh caulk up another Fail for EZ

Don't underestimating fury at Biden and the kleptos wasting our money on extremely dumb shit.

Trans lives Don't matter that much. And that isn't being transphobic or racist. It's just not going to sway the majority.

The gov could literally be castratimg ppl and euthanimg them and ppl wouldn't care especially if it meant gas bread and milk is $10 cheeper per unit/mass/volume if they get to spend extra money on something they want.


You're over estimating ppls altruism and willingness and ability to sacrifice. And also...

Biden / Kamala are like lol fingerpuppets.

[aussenseiter]

Isn't University of Arizona a giant party school? (https://www.insidehighered.com/news/government/student-aid-policy/2023/08/30/us-forgives-72m-student-loans-former-ashford-students)

A department official also said during a news conference Wednesday that the government will “seek to recoup the cost of these discharges” from the institution’s current owner. The University of Arizona acquired Ashford, a for-profit, from its parent company, Zovio, for $1 in 2020 to create the nonprofit University of Arizona Global Campus, an online college that’s affiliated with but "separate" from the University of Arizona.

[aussenseiter]

Woah woah wait. This wasn’t constructed by phone interviews but web-bases questionnaire.

With the amount of accounts flying around here we are to expect these 1500 web surveys weren’t filled out ever by the same person… hell bot - for that matter.

Nahhh caulk up another Fail for EZ

Aha the incorrigible is correctable and therefore not incorrigible!

What will happen next for hero and squirrel? 🫎

[Lune]

Isn't University of Arizona a giant party school? (https://www.insidehighered.com/news/government/student-aid-policy/2023/08/30/us-forgives-72m-student-loans-former-ashford-students)

ASU is the one with the huge party school reputation but yea this culture of "borrow tends of thousands at 7%, study literature, and think about it later" needs to change

[unsunghero]

ASU is the one with the huge party school reputation but yea this culture of "borrow tends of thousands at 7%, study literature, and think about it later" needs to change

Back when I was going there it was because some frat got expelled for participating in some dorm porn videos

I couldn’t get into any college parties there, if you didn’t have more girls with you than dudes, those douchey frat bro’s wouldn’t let you in. So I couldn’t personally attest to that

But co-worker’s parties were off the chain anyway (cars down the block) so F ASU

[Lune]

Back when I was going there it was because some frat got expelled for participating in some dorm porn videos

I couldn’t get into any college parties there, if you didn’t have more girls with you than dudes, those douchey frat bro’s wouldn’t let you in. So I couldn’t personally attest to that

But co-worker’s parties were off the chain anyway (cars down the block) so F ASU

Same thing happened at San Diego State (another big party school), except the frat was selling cocaine. Almost went there but decided against it. San Diego State, Chico State, Arizona State, UC Santa Barbara were the epic west coast party schools. Thing is, when a school gets that reputation they try to change it, so probably not like that anymore.

[PRogers]

Dont break the law.

All the sudden, republicans are like "omg we dont need these stupid courts"

few years ago:
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[PRogers]

Wait

How could any of this be happening if he "made america great again" and was the best president of the best economy of the best blah blah..

Maybe he did appoint the best judges. HAHHAHAHAHAHAAHA

[aussenseiter]

Dont break the law.

Do you know what a bill of attainder is?

[arvidez]

Dont break the law.

All the sudden, republicans are like "omg we dont need these stupid courts"

few years ago:
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didnt it make you wanna vomit when he did this? threatening to lock up his political opponent. dont you hate when people do that?

mommy and daddy used to hide their fighting better. i see you picked moms side. maybe they will get back together.

[Elizondo]

Alt account melting down that Trump beating Biden in the polls after sham indictments and mug shot

Pure comedy

[Duik]

Did they in fact, lock her up? With all that control and all that good stuff. Seems easy to do this stuff if you cunt roll the gubbament. Anywho. One side seems better at gubbamenting dan de uva.

[magnetaress]

I had this on my fortune cookie this morning:

"To rule with virtue is like the North Star having its place in the sky." ~ a chinese fortune cookie

*shchuckles softly to self*

[aussenseiter]

I had this on my fortune cookie this morning:

"To rule with virtue is like the North Star having its place in the sky." ~ a chinese fortune cookie

*shchuckles softly to self*

Why are you eating cookies for breakfast?

[unsunghero]

Why are you eating cookies for breakfast?

I can’t do Chinese food for breakfast

Lunch, however…

[Origen]

Do you know what a bill of attainder is?Guy named Bill at Tainder, duh

[magnetaress]

Why are you eating cookies for breakfast?

I had left over white rice and italian sausage so I steamed up the rice again in a bowl and put the green peppers and sausage finally chopped on top of the rice with a little mayo and siracha and ketchup

it was delicious

the cookie was desert

[booter]

the collective delusion/mass hysteria in this thread is incredible... people actually think that trump will win the election?

he has not gained a single new voter in the last 4 years. he has lost many through his actions, and covid has taken many more

it's going to be even worse than 2020, so you might need to increase your copium dosage

doesn't even matter if it's against biden or anyone else, he absolutely will not win

[Trexller]

no, reasonable people do not believe trump will, or should win 2024

[Homesteaded]

Guys talking about Covid in 2023, bad sign friend.

[aussenseiter]

the collective delusion/mass hysteria in this thread is incredible... people actually think that trump will win the election?

he has not gained a single new voter in the last 4 years. he has lost many through his actions, and covid has taken many more

it's going to be even worse than 2020, so you might need to increase your copium dosage

doesn't even matter if it's against biden or anyone else, he absolutely will not win

I'm hoping he's not nominated but I think it's possible for him to win depending what happens between now and then.

We get a hard landing and it's an electoral bloodbath for incumbents.

[PRogers]

didnt it make you wanna vomit when he did this? threatening to lock up his political opponent. dont you hate when people do that?

mommy and daddy used to hide their fighting better. i see you picked moms side. maybe they will get back together.

Show me her felony charges.

You can show me the investigation. Weird, right? Almost like, one was a crime (insert 91 felonies) and one was ALMOST a crime. (insert whatever the crime may have been.)

I'm tired of seeing all of them get away with whatever it may be.

The political class in america has been nearly untouchable by the law. Ken Paxton for example.

So we should not start putting people, who have for generations been a protected class of citizen, in jail?

The difference between us is you care which side you're on. I only care about whos been charged. If bernie did something, charge him. I dont give a shit.

[Botten]

Guys talking about Covid in 2023, bad sign friend.

Trump Claims "COVID Hysteria" is Being Used to Rig 2024 Election (https://www.meidastouch.com/news/trump-claims-covid-hysteria-is-being-used-to-rig-2024-election)

Ha Ha Ha Is that what you and EZ are crying about today? :rolleyes:

[PRogers]

Did they in fact, lock her up? With all that control and all that good stuff. Seems easy to do this stuff if you cunt roll the gubbament. Anywho. One side seems better at gubbamenting dan de uva.

Why didnt his AG find this HUGE crime he spoke about?
The worst crime EVER. HUGE! DISASTER! CROOKED!
Why didnt the AG charge her under trump admin? Almost like, they didnt have anything to charge her with. I never saw any pics of boxes of documents or hard drives full of info she was asked for and said "i returned it already", or pretty much said fuck you to the documents owners.



You want a class of people, the people you like, to be above the law. Just say it. You dont have to get all mush-mouth like some kind of undcucated backwoods inbred moron. You talk to your family like that, not us. We dont understand that dribble mouth uncle fucker talk.


Leaves two things: He was lying about the whole crime thing, the emails, the severity of it all, blah blah. Then you believed him. Adorable.

OR

You're OK with all of them being crooks, except when its a guy who you'd like.

What else can there be? Lets put all the crooks in jail, how about that?

Remember when he had 26 women accuse him of sexual assault, sexual harassment, and rape? Everyone said "OMG they just want to harass him!!"

Then he was later found guilty by a court of doing just that. Could you even imagine being on that side of it all? Thats your guy, the sexual assault/rape felony guy.

[PRogers]

I had this on my fortune cookie this morning:

"To rule with virtue is like the North Star having its place in the sky." ~ a chinese fortune cookie

*shchuckles softly to self*

I think you're already dead if you read that.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_eRowoKG71g

[aussenseiter]

Guy named Bill at Tainder, duh

There's a GOP guy named "Cam Sex Ton" in Tennessee.

[Lune]

Why didnt his AG find this HUGE crime he spoke about?
The worst crime EVER. HUGE! DISASTER! CROOKED!
Why didnt the AG charge her under trump admin? Almost like, they didnt have anything to charge her with. I never saw any pics of boxes of documents or hard drives full of info she was asked for and said "i returned it already", or pretty much said fuck you to the documents owners.



You want a class of people, the people you like, to be above the law. Just say it. You dont have to get all mush-mouth like some kind of undcucated backwoods inbred moron. You talk to your family like that, not us. We dont understand that dribble mouth uncle fucker talk.


Leaves two things: He was lying about the whole crime thing, the emails, the severity of it all, blah blah. Then you believed him. Adorable.

OR

You're OK with all of them being crooks, except when its a guy who you'd like.

What else can there be? Lets put all the crooks in jail, how about that?

Remember when he had 26 women accuse him of sexual assault, sexual harassment, and rape? Everyone said "OMG they just want to harass him!!"

Then he was later found guilty by a court of doing just that. Could you even imagine being on that side of it all? Thats your guy, the sexual assault/rape felony guy.

Haven't you learned by now that they don't give a fuck about all of this? It's not good faith, and their loyalty to Trump isn't conceived in any type of logic or morality, which is why I'm truly not being insulting, just using accurate language, when I call them cultists. It's almost a religious belief.

"Me and my people are the 'right' type of people + Trump is on our side, enrages the 'other', and fights for the 'right' type of people = Whatever Trump does is right, and whatever the 'other' does is wrong, regardless of moral judgments. It's plainly apparent over and over and over and identity politics taken to an extreme. This is why projection is such an appealing tactic for them.

"Well Joe Biden Crime Family Butter Emails George Soros (((Shadow Cabal))) Nancy Pelosi Bernie Sanders $1M Home Blah Blah" ignoring the fundamental fact that liberals do not have this cultlike devotion to any politician, if any of these missteps were even at the same scale as Trump's mafia-like behavior, which they aren't.

Most liberals are truly lukewarm about Biden, Hillary, etc. The Democratic party just does not have a strong magnetism among liberals, it's fundamentally dysfunctional as a party because it has some very disparate factions under its umbrella. Most high-information liberals utterly despise the neo-cons that make up the mainstream Democratic party, but are at the mercy of an utterly broken system where elections in a highly plural country of 300 million are determined by a few key groups in a few key states. Add on the fact that the entire system is at the whim of an old-school House of Lords where Wyoming, population 578,000, gets to send its two slobs to D.C where they have the same say as California's (population 40 million) two slobs in gatekeeping anything that has to do with legislation.

It's just so mind-bogglingly dysfunctional.

[Homesteaded]

Liberals don’t love anything beside themselves. They mock and ridicule anyone who is loyal to a cause or belief they disagree with. They believe in the ubermensch, which they all assume they are apart of despite their blind devotion to built in power structures.

You aren’t that smart and it’s okay to admire others.

[aussenseiter]

Haven't you learned by now that they don't give a fuck about all of this? It's not good faith, and their loyalty to Trump isn't conceived in any type of logic or morality, which is why I'm truly not being insulting, just using accurate language, when I call them cultists. It's almost a religious belief.

"Me and my people are the 'right' type of people + Trump is on our side, enrages the 'other', and fights for the 'right' type of people = Whatever Trump does is right, and whatever the 'other' does is wrong, regardless of moral judgments. It's plainly apparent over and over and over and identity politics taken to an extreme. This is why projection is such an appealing tactic for them.

"Well Joe Biden Crime Family Butter Emails George Soros (((Shadow Cabal))) Nancy Pelosi Bernie Sanders $1M Home Blah Blah" ignoring the fundamental fact that liberals do not have this cultlike devotion to any politician, if any of these missteps were even at the same scale as Trump's mafia-like behavior, which they aren't.

Most liberals are truly lukewarm about Biden, Hillary, etc. The Democratic party just does not have a strong magnetism among liberals, it's fundamentally dysfunctional as a party because it has some very disparate factions under its umbrella. Most high-information liberals utterly despise the neo-cons that make up the mainstream Democratic party, but are at the mercy of an utterly broken system where elections in a highly plural country of 300 million are determined by a few key groups in a few key states. Add on the fact that the entire system is at the whim of an old-school House of Lords where Wyoming, population 578,000, gets to send its two slobs to D.C where they have the same say as California's (population 40 million) two slobs in gatekeeping anything that has to do with legislation.

It's just so mind-bogglingly dysfunctional.

You can't get mad at them for not acting like you, that's silly.

https://i.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/001/386/096/9fb.png

[unsunghero]

I personally think that many Dems secretly do disagree with each other, but are hive-minded through fear

If parts of the GOP talk shit about Trump, the worst that will happen is they are ostracized from their own party

If parts of Dems talk shit about particular Dems who happen to be protected classes, the worst that can happen is cancel culture, *cough* sorry I mean consequence culture, can ruin their entire fucking life

[unsunghero]

^
Everyone knows people like JK Rowling wouldn’t dare say what she did if she didn’t already have fuck you money. Because she would be a broke unemployable bish

That’s the fear. Put the fear in people, and keep them in line

[Ooloo]

Supporting trump is perfectly logical; literally every relevant metric of prosperity was better while he was president. He had fairly good domestic and foreign policy all things considered.

Now, I think that was mostly all by accident cause he's basically a celebrity who ran for president as a stunt and actually got elected. But every administration is basically just a hodgepodge of people with varying influence and something inevitably comes out the other side of that meat grinder. With trump, it was at least marginally better than what we've gotten on the other side of the biden meat grinder.

Also please remember he's already been president for a full term. We've already run this experiment. If he wanted to retain dictatorial control in 2020 he would have, but instead he eventually conceded and there was a peaceful transfer of power despite all the fearmongering by democrats. Even now rachael maddow is like "he's gonna install himself as president for life!" which is bumper-sticker levels of a retarded take. He's pushing 80, even if he really was the cartoonish villain he's painted as he might get "installed" as president for like... 6 years.

[Landroval]

^
Everyone knows people like JK Rowling wouldn’t dare say what she did if she didn’t already have fuck you money. Because she would be a broke unemployable bish

That’s the fear. Put the fear in people, and keep them in line
In other news, I've decided to start haunting my local city council meetings; just attending, and never really saying anything for a couple years

[aussenseiter]

Supporting trump is perfectly logical; literally every relevant metric of prosperity was better while he was president. He had fairly good domestic and foreign policy all things considered.

Now, I think that was mostly all by accident cause he's basically a celebrity who ran for president as a stunt and actually got elected. But every administration is basically just a hodgepodge of people with varying influence and something inevitably comes out the other side of that meat grinder. With trump, it was at least marginally better than what we've gotten on the other side of the biden meat grinder.

Also please remember he's already been president for a full term. We've already run this experiment. If he wanted to retain dictatorial control in 2020 he would have, but instead he eventually conceded and there was a peaceful transfer of power despite all the fearmongering by democrats. Even now rachael maddow is like "he's gonna install himself as president for life!" which is bumper-sticker levels of a retarded take. He's pushing 80, even if he really was the cartoonish villain he's painted as he might get "installed" as president for like... 6 years.

Plenty of moral evils are completely logical. A thing can be right without being just.

Hope this helps.

[Botten]

Liberals don’t love anything beside themselves. They mock and ridicule anyone who is loyal to a cause or belief they disagree with. They believe in the ubermensch, which they all assume they are apart of despite their blind devotion to built in power structures.

You aren’t that smart and it’s okay to admire others.

Smart enough to know excessive cigarettes and alcohol are bad.

So why can’t I also then be smart enough to know Trump is a terrible choice to be in charge of the US.

[Origen]

Don't worry, Homesteaded is like 50-75 iq, tops

[Ooloo]

Plenty of moral evils are completely logical. A thing can be right without being just.

Hope this helps.

It doesn't really help because I have no idea which part of what I posted you're responding to.

Prosperity and lower crime and no new foreign wars are good, so it's both logically *and* morally better to vote for trump over joe biden, assuming biden is actually running again. How bout that?

[aussenseiter]

It doesn't really help because I have no idea which part of what I posted you're responding to.

Prosperity and lower crime and no new foreign wars are good, so it's both logically *and* morally better to vote for trump over joe biden, assuming biden is actually running again. How bout that?

Why are those things good?

Prosperity here could mean mass starvation everywhere else, or the world could be countried entirely by Nazicommie states but at least we aren't making war on them.

[Origen]

Prosperity here is definitely leaving to starvation everywhere else, the starvation just isn't yet widespread but that's changing

[Ooloo]

Haha what? Open a history book you dorks. Global poverty and deaths from malnutrition per capita have declined exponentially since the industrial revolution, which was primarily driven by western capitalist markets. Yes the rich got richer, and the poor also got richer. Try again.

[Toxigen]

Haha what? Open a history book you dorks. Global poverty and deaths from malnutrition per capita have declined exponentially since the industrial revolution, which was primarily driven by western capitalist markets. Yes the rich got richer, and the poor also got richer. Try again.

https://www.huxley.net/bnw-revisited/

[Ooloo]

Why are those things good?

Prosperity here could mean mass starvation everywhere else, or the world could be countried entirely by Nazicommie states but at least we aren't making war on them.

Well I suppose I'm talking about the actual world and not a hypothetical alternate world.

[aussenseiter]

Haha what? Open a history book you dorks. Global poverty and deaths from malnutrition per capita have declined exponentially since the industrial revolution, which was primarily driven by western capitalist markets. Yes the rich got richer, and the poor also got richer. Try again.

Has a place ever been prosperous with a different way? I do prefer the way you prefer, but that's not the point.

[aussenseiter]

Well I suppose I'm talking about the actual world and not a hypothetical alternate world.

I'm gonna go tell my cat about the Iraqi Baath party it's just as good as telling you.

[Ooloo]

I know quite a bit about the baath party. They were bad dudes, and taking them out was justified mainly because of their complete control over a major global oil pipeline. Oil = human prosperity.

So yes you got me sometimes wars are justified.

Again though when I say "actual world" I mean the current day, not 1980-2004

[Lune]

hoorah we will defend Israel down to the last american soldier

[aussenseiter]

I know quite a bit about the baath party. They were bad dudes, and taking them out was justified mainly because of their complete control over a major global oil pipeline. Oil = human prosperity.

So yes you got me sometimes wars are justified.

Again though when I say "actual world" I mean the current day, not 1980-2004

Any bad dudes with oil doing bad stuff right now?

Maybe in Eastern Europe?

[Trexller]

hoorah we will defend Israel down to the last american soldier

yeah but it would never come to that

the US could obliterate the entire middle east with just 1 carrier group

[Origen]

Haha what? Open a history book you dorks. Global poverty and deaths from malnutrition per capita have declined exponentially since the industrial revolution, which was primarily driven by western capitalist markets. Yes the rich got richer, and the poor also got richer. Try again."Out of sight, out of mind"

[Lune]

"Out of sight, out of mind"

https://i.imgur.com/sahLYBj.jpg

[aussenseiter]

YOUR OPINION: Sparkle Creed (https://www.newstribune.com/news/2023/aug/08/your-opinion-sparkle-creed/)

Tom Ault, Jefferson City

Dear Editor,

It is 4 a.m. on Sunday; I could not sleep. In my many years on this earth, never have I been more inflamed over the works of some "supposed" ministers of God.

For as long as I can remember, I have attended church and recited the Apostles' Creed. This has been used as a cornerstone in my belief in the Lord and Savior Jesus Christ for many years. Whether the apostles recited it in the early churches is not known definitely, but we do know that it was written in Greek, around AD 341 by Marcellus of Ancyra and sent to Julius, the bishop of Rome.

While all religious sects do not use it in their church services, it is universally used in many today. For any church having the audacity to claim they are a Christian group (for instance the Emmanuel United Church of Christ in Louisville, Kentucky, and The Edina Community Lutheran Church in Minneapolis) and allow the writing of such a pathetic piece of trash like the Sparkle Creed to be used in a service praising our God is unforgivable. The apparent author is a Lesbian minister, Rachel Small Stokes, recently married to her lesbian partner.

The Edina Community Lutheran Church in Minneapolis posted this as part of a "Pride" LGBTQ+ service.

"I believe in the non-binary God whose pronouns are plural. I believe in Jesus Christ, their child, who wore a fabulous tunic and had two dads and saw everyone as a sibling-child of God. I believe in the rainbow Spirit, who shatters our image of one white light and refracts it into a rainbow of gorgeous diversity. I believe in the church of everyday saints as numerous, creative and resilient as patches on the AIDS quilt, whose feet are grounded in mud and whose eyes gaze at the stars in wonder. I believe in the call to each of us that love is love is love, so beloved, let us love. I believe, glorious God. Help my unbelief."

I believe Catholic and Lutheran Christian believers should write to their leaders regarding the Catholic Future Church movement (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FutureChurch), and the Edina Lutheran Church in Minneapolis and their commitments. All of us should pray for these lost souls!

[arvidez]

Show me her felony charges.

You can show me the investigation. Weird, right? Almost like, one was a crime (insert 91 felonies) and one was ALMOST a crime. (insert whatever the crime may have been.)

I'm tired of seeing all of them get away with whatever it may be.

The political class in america has been nearly untouchable by the law. Ken Paxton for example.

So we should not start putting people, who have for generations been a protected class of citizen, in jail?

The difference between us is you care which side you're on. I only care about whos been charged. If bernie did something, charge him. I dont give a shit.

maybe you are right, but why start with him? the least "politician". this all just seems to play into his hand so well. celebrities go to jail all the time. he is mostly a celebrity. jail made martha stewart cool.

[Duik]

Haha what? Open a history book you dorks. Global poverty and deaths from malnutrition per capita have declined exponentially since the industrial revolution, which was primarily driven by western capitalist markets. Yes the rich got exponentially richer, and the poor also got slightly less poor maybe (richer). Try again.

There, fixed it for you.

[Ooloo]

There, fixed it for you.

Oh please the poor got much richer, this is indisputable. Free markets are by far the greatest ally of the poor because they make goods and services more plentiful and cheaper due to competition for their dollar. What seems to bother you is that the disparity between rich and poor also increased, which is just typical marxist envy. Rather than celebrate how much better off poor people are because of capitalism, you sneer at rich people for having lots of money, as if there's anything inherently wrong with that.

This is the classic critique of marxism; you don't actually care about the poor, you just hate the rich and want their stuff.

[aussenseiter]

Oh please the poor got much richer, this is indisputable. Free markets are by far the greatest ally of the poor because they make goods and services more plentiful and cheaper due to competition for their dollar. What seems to bother you is that the disparity between rich and poor also increased, which is just typical marxist envy. Rather than celebrate how much better off poor people are because of capitalism, you sneer at rich people for having lots of money, as if there's anything inherently wrong with that.

This is the classic critique of marxism; you don't actually care about the poor, you just hate the rich and want their stuff.

Why is this chart mislabeled?

https://cdn.vox-cdn.com/uploads/chorus_asset/file/13743810/world_population_in_extreme_poverty_absolute.png

[Duik]

This is the classic critique of marxism; you don't actually care about the poor, you just hate the rich and want their stuff.


Sorry bud but you're wrong. I dont want their stuff at all. What I want is their ability to gather vast sums of wealth against the run of the world markets to be curtailed. Some companies made fortunes AND got gubba assistance crying poormouth.
Example, Amazon made bazzilions during covid era. MOST other people were limited in wealth creation options, some even completely dried up. So given that who made the best out of the, in your words Plandemic?
Correct the billionaire parasites that fed off the misfortunes of the masses. Ignoring the money made on clot shots, masks and related things. Check out which companies completely ignored the slowdown and powered ahead. I wont because even if shown facts EITHER side refuses to be swayed from their opinion. These boards prove it.
Im sure you lot are interweb savy enough to find that info. Its up to the individual to decide what to do with it.

[Origen]

maybe you are right, but why start with him? the least "politician". this all just seems to play into his hand so well. celebrities go to jail all the time. he is mostly a celebrity. jail made martha stewart cool.Ignoring sedition because Martha Stewart made weed brownies with Snoop Dogg

[Homesteaded]

Don't worry, Homesteaded is like 50-75 iq, tops

Aww isn’t that sweet of you to say.

[aussenseiter]

Sorry bud but you're wrong. I dont want their stuff at all. What I want is their ability to gather vast sums of wealth against the run of the world markets to be curtailed. Some companies made fortunes AND got gubba assistance crying poormouth.
Example, Amazon made bazzilions during covid era. MOST other people were limited in wealth creation options, some even completely dried up. So given that who made the best out of the, in your words Plandemic?
Correct the billionaire parasites that fed off the misfortunes of the masses. Ignoring the money made on clot shots, masks and related things. Check out which companies completely ignored the slowdown and powered ahead. I wont because even if shown facts EITHER side refuses to be swayed from their opinion. These boards prove it.
Im sure you lot are interweb savy enough to find that info. Its up to the individual to decide what to do with it.

How'd Amazon make all that money if everyone was broke?

[arvidez]

Ignoring sedition because Martha Stewart made weed brownies with Snoop Dogg

or maybe it is go after the guy that doesn't belong there. the new guy. nobody wanted him. most still dont.

[arvidez]

How'd Amazon make all that money if everyone was broke?

matthew 25:29...they can take it up with god

[Blingy]

How'd Amazon make all that money if everyone was broke?

Look into where Amazon makes their money......hint: it isn't from people buying crap on their website. Look into AWS; you might be surprised.

[Blingy]

Why is this chart mislabeled?

https://cdn.vox-cdn.com/uploads/chorus_asset/file/13743810/world_population_in_extreme_poverty_absolute.png

Changing the definition of poverty (or anything really) makes for pretty but bullshitty graphs like this.

There are lies, dam lies and statistics.

[magnetaress]

Daniel Radcliff is a ripped as chem stabilized cyborg now

[Origen]

or maybe it is go after the guy that doesn't belong there. the new guy. nobody wanted him. most still dont.Hey if we put Orange Man in prison y'all can have Martha Stewart, the left will give her up.

Not Calvin, though.

[PRogers]

or maybe it is go after the guy that doesn't belong there. the new guy. nobody wanted him. most still dont.

Wait, are you saying that old, rich, and white guys dont belong in congress...?
Tell me how that works, exactly. The home of rich white people is office.

If congress was made up of average income americans, they would work for average income americans. The concentration of millionaires in congress is profound. He's literally the same as the rest of em. Old, rich, white, and crooked.

[PRogers]

maybe you are right, but why start with him? the least "politician". this all just seems to play into his hand so well. celebrities go to jail all the time. he is mostly a celebrity. jail made martha stewart cool.

He's the most politician of em all. The biggest demagauge. He holds the record for telling the most lies while in office, literally. He's taken more donor money than anyone in american history. He gave tax breaks to the richest people on earth.

He lives in a tower away from everyone, hes never had a real job in his life.

Now he lives on a golf course. Thats the most politician shit ive ever heard in my life.

It could only be worse if he went to work for the saudi's or russians afterwards.

He's the personification of the word "politician".

The guy wears the same suit every day so his imagine wont be disrupted in the media.

Who the fuck does that?????

[Trexller]

The guy wears the same suit every day so his imagine wont be disrupted in the media.

Who the fuck does that?????

Batman

[PRogers]

Batman

Then why does he switch from black to grey?

[aussenseiter]

Wait, are you saying that old, rich, and white guys dont belong in congress...?
Tell me how that works, exactly. The home of rich white people is office.

If congress was made up of average income americans, they would work for average income americans. The concentration of millionaires in congress is profound. He's literally the same as the rest of em. Old, rich, white, and crooked.

Wouldn't poor people have more motivation to steal than people who are already rich?

[Ooloo]

Trump, the guy who was never a politican until five seconds ago, is somehow more of a politician than joe biden who has been in government living off the public dime for 50 years and somehow became a multi millionaire, along with most of his family.

Trump should have gotten a "real job" like joe did!

[Trexller]

Back in the day, when politicians still had a sense of humor

qlM_IFCNgKw

[Origen]

Wouldn't poor people have more motivation to steal than people who are already rich?When you're already rich, it's not usually referred to as stealing. Also, having money shields you from the consequences of nearly all actions, so the rich always have a greater incentive to steal. Hope this helps!

[aussenseiter]

When you're already rich, it's not usually referred to as stealing. Also, having money shields you from the consequences of nearly all actions, so the rich always have a greater incentive to steal. Hope this helps!

Why do poor people steal?

[unsunghero]

Why do poor people steal?

Because it’s easier than working full time for it, albeit with much more risk. This is meaning those with no moral compass influence on decisions

[Toxigen]

yuo gottem mao !!!!11!!!1

[aussenseiter]

Because it’s easier than working full time for it, albeit with much more risk. This is meaning those with no moral compass influence on decisions

rob answers only please

[Origen]

Why do poor people steal?Maximus: You don't find it hard to do your duty?
Cicero: Sometimes I do what I want to do. The rest of the time, I do what I have to.

[Duik]

Big business makes money based on MANY TECHNIQUES. Im not going to hand hold you lot to your own already decided conclusions. The already deflated market is plundered by large corps who are enabled by our bought and payed for gubbament officials.

Manipulation of human nature by large corps is well understood. If you dont agree it is these insidious arsehole actions by predatory cunts that you agree with and would do, given the chance.

Its ok if you wanna be arseholes as long as you dont get a chance to affect me. Unfortunately, it does, both directly and indirectly. I may not be struggling but those around me some are so im limited in my activities cuz others' lack of liquid funds.

Online gambling. Easy one click sign ups to online services with IMPOSSIBLY CONVOLUTED opt out systems. Attention (and data) gathering social media platforms that make it even easier to milk us.

The list is long. My patience is not. Someone already mentioned this. Those who see no problem with predatory billionaire activities allow it as long as they have a one in a bazzillion chance of doing the same.

So long, fuckers.

[aussenseiter]

Big business makes money based on MANY TECHNIQUES. Im not going to hand hold you lot to your own already decided conclusions. The already deflated market is plundered by large corps who are enabled by our bought and payed for gubbament officials.

Manipulation of human nature by large corps is well understood. If you dont agree it is these insidious arsehole actions by predatory cunts that you agree with and would do, given the chance.

Its ok if you wanna be arseholes as long as you dont get a chance to affect me. Unfortunately, it does, both directly and indirectly. I may not be struggling but those around me some are so im limited in my activities cuz others' lack of liquid funds.

Online gambling. Easy one click sign ups to online services with IMPOSSIBLY CONVOLUTED opt out systems. Attention (and data) gathering social media platforms that make it even easier to milk us.

The list is long. My patience is not. Someone already mentioned this. Those who see no problem with predatory billionaire activities allow it as long as they have a one in a bazzillion chance of doing the same.

So long, fuckers.

It makes me sad to see you obsessed of so many "demons". ✝️

[aussenseiter]

Maximus: You don't find it hard to do your duty?
Cicero: Sometimes I do what I want to do. The rest of the time, I do what I have to.

Ok the first part is want and the other part is need.

So there's two.

Do rich people need to steal?

[unsunghero]

Ok the first part is want and the other part is need.

So there's two.

Do rich people need to steal?

[arvidez]

Hey if we put Orange Man in prison y'all can have Martha Stewart, the left will give her up.

Not Calvin, though.

we will take nancy

[arvidez]

Wait, are you saying that old, rich, and white guys dont belong in congress...?
Tell me how that works, exactly. The home of rich white people is office.

If congress was made up of average income americans, they would work for average income americans. The concentration of millionaires in congress is profound. He's literally the same as the rest of em. Old, rich, white, and crooked.

oh. you are one of those "old, white, men" haters. good luck with that. nothing i can do here.

[aussenseiter]

oh. you are one of those "old, white, men" haters. good luck with that. nothing i can do here.

It becomes uglier if you examine birth demographics.

[Duik]

It makes me sad to see you obsessed of so many "demons". ✝️

It makes me sad that you fail to see them. But thats ok. We can differ.

[Origen]

Ok the first part is want and the other part is need.

So there's two.

Do rich people need to steal?Depends. Winona Ryder was just as mentally ill as some nobody shoplifting, but she had the resources to weather it. And she was famous so people noticed.

But some person who owns a few McDonalds'es can't feasibly run the franchises if they pay each employee fifty bucks an hour. There is an incentive to pay the poverty wages that they usually do, so they are "forced" to rob their employees of the value they each produce. Not to mention whatever arcane franchise contract rules that might affect the dough.

Musk steals the labor value of engineers just like Jobs did, and the rich guys before them, but I'd guess most of them knew it was gonna pan out that way and are fine with it.

I think it varies.

[aussenseiter]

Depends. Winona Ryder was just as mentally ill as some nobody shoplifting, but she had the resources to weather it. And she was famous so people noticed.

But some person who owns a few McDonalds'es can't feasibly run the franchises if they pay each employee fifty bucks an hour. There is an incentive to pay the poverty wages that they usually do, so they are "forced" to rob their employees of the value they each produce. Not to mention whatever arcane franchise contract rules that might affect the dough.

Musk steals the labor value of engineers just like Jobs did, and the rich guys before them, but I'd guess most of them knew it was gonna pan out that way and are fine with it.

I think it varies.

Can we please stop with the debunked LTV crap? There is no surplus value. LTV is not a valid theory. It's been debunked seven ways to Sunday and yet it's still parroted around here as if saying it seventeen times in a conversation makes it more true. It isn't. Value is subjective and the value of labor is the wage. Labor done today isn't worth revenues minus non-labor costs in the future because this ignores the time value of money: namely that capital isn't contributed at the same time that workers do the work or that workers get paid or that product sells. These are different points in time. It makes absolutely no economic sense to suggest that money invested today is worth exactly the same when product sells a year later, just as it makes no sense to suggest that $X borrowed today will always be worth $X repaid at any indefinite point in the future. Borrowing money (and by extension resources) has a real cost over time that can't be just ignored, and "we'll all lend at 0%!" is fiction and not a real solution.

[Ooloo]

Wait, are you saying that old, rich, and white guys dont belong in congress...?
Tell me how that works, exactly. The home of rich white people is office.

If congress was made up of average income americans, they would work for average income americans. The concentration of millionaires in congress is profound. He's literally the same as the rest of em. Old, rich, white, and crooked.

"God damn whites!!!" *shakes fist at god*

-a totally not racist person

[Landroval]

"God damn whites!!!" *shakes fist at god*

-a totally not racist person

The ironic part is he's talking about the predominately jewish politicians.

[Elizondo]

"God damn whites!!!" *shakes fist at god*

-a totally not racist person

lawl Rob alt account

So sad

[Ooloo]

The ironic part is he's talking about the predominately jewish politicians.

See man I think being racist toward anybody, including jewish people, is bad.

[Botten]

See man I think being racist toward anybody, including jewish people, is bad.

Yeah but by your own admittance you don’t believe we have racists as of today. You don’t even think groups of them are attracted to GOP values.

[Ooloo]

Yeah but by your own admittance you don’t believe we have racists as of today. You don’t even think groups of them are attracted to GOP values.

No what I've said is that I don't think we have legions of white supremacists running around everywhere, like msnbc's fever dream. It's a completely overblown boogeyman issue used as red meat to NPC dems.

There *is* tons of state-sanctioned racism, mostly against white people, asians and jews.

I think it's all bad, whereas some people pick and choose which racism is bad.

[aussenseiter]

No what I've said is that I don't think we have legions of white supremacists running around everywhere, like msnbc's fever dream. It's a completely overblown boogeyman issue used as red meat to NPC dems.

There *is* tons of state-sanctioned racism, mostly against white people, asians and jews.

I think it's all bad, whereas some people pick and choose which racism is bad.

https://www.azquotes.com/picture-quotes/quote-the-way-to-stop-discrimination-on-the-basis-of-race-is-to-stop-discriminating-on-the-john-roberts-131-9-0903.jpg

[Botten]

Appeals court denies DOJ request to block Trump deposition in lawsuits by ex-FBI officials (https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/donald-trump/appeals-court-denies-doj-request-block-trump-deposition-lawsuit-ex-fbi-rcna103089)

And


Trump’s Truth Social platform faces uncertain future as key test looms (https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2023/sep/02/trump-truth-social-digital-world-merger)

EZ you worried about your GOP front runner?
Cheato McSmallhands is spiraling down bringing any energy left in the GOP down with him.

Good

[Elizondo]

No what I've said is that I don't think we have legions of white supremacists running around everywhere, like msnbc's fever dream. It's a completely overblown boogeyman issue used as red meat to NPC dems.

There *is* tons of state-sanctioned racism, mostly against white people, asians and jews.

I think it's all bad, whereas some people pick and choose which racism is bad.

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[Botten]

What’s that Ez? It is hard to understand you with all this winning going on.

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[Trexller]

She knows she is a diversity hire.

This is not the behavior of a personally secure individual who believes they got their job on their merits alone.

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/kamala-harris-rabbit-ears-criticism-source-frustration-biden-white-house-book

According to journalist Franklin Foer's forthcoming book "The Last Politician," "Harris possessed what one of her colleagues described as ‘rabbit ears,’" Foer wrote. "Whenever there was a hint of criticism of her — either in the West Wing or in the press — she seemed instantly aware of it."

"Rather than brushing it aside, she wanted to know who was speaking ill of her and what they were saying," Foer wrote, noting that when Harris "read a devastating story" on a news website "about her mismanagement of her team," the vice president "responded by briefly freezing out an aide whom she suspected of cooperating with reporters."

"She let the criticism guide her," he added. "Instead of diligently sticking to the Central America assignment, she seemed to accept the conventional wisdom about it. It was a futile gig, so she let it fall to the side, missing an opportunity to grind her way to a meaningful achievement."

Biden simply didn't hand her the substantive role that he played in the Obama administration." "he didn't need Harris in the same way Obama needed Biden."

Harris "asked to be placed in charge of relations with Scandinavia — away from the spotlight."

[Elizondo]

Botten bragging that Dems have gone full Saddam Hussein

Pure Comedy

[Ooloo]

We need to protect democracy by imprisoning people who thought they were protecting democracy. For longer sentences than rapists even get.

Oh and also making sure that a guy half the country wants to elect can't even appear on the ballot. That's the way to protect democracy!

[Ooloo]

Oh and also we need to make sure that any corruption or impropriety by the ruling administration is covered up, minimized and hidden from the electorate. That's another good way to protect democracy.

[Trexller]

We need to protect democracy by imprisoning people who thought they were protecting democracy. For longer sentences than rapists even get.

Nazis did that in the late 1930s

[aussenseiter]

We need to protect democracy by imprisoning people who thought they were protecting democracy. For longer sentences than rapists even get.

Oh and also making sure that a guy half the country wants to elect can't even appear on the ballot. That's the way to protect democracy!

The second part sparkles but long sentences haven't been typical for rando rioters.

Just for the leaders and instigators.

It stops being protected speech when you start breaking things. (Rob bait)

[Trexller]

It stops being protected speech when you start breaking things. (Rob bait)

yeah property damage is not protected speech, i don't think thats a ridiculous thought

[Ooloo]

The second part sparkles but long sentences haven't been typical for rando rioters.

Just for the leaders and instigators.

It stops being protected speech when you start breaking things. (Rob bait)

I think you're being too generous. Most of the "rioters" shouldn't have gotten any time at all, much less multiple years.

Even a month in prison when you literally didn't do anything but walk around confused for like twenty minutes is a totally malicious prosecution.

[Trexller]

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[Elizondo]

The second part sparkles but long sentences haven't been typical for rando rioters.

Just for the leaders and instigators.

It stops being protected speech when you start breaking things. (Rob bait)

Now do the organized flash mobs that are looting and pillaging retail stores in Deep Blue shitholes

Dems don't want to prosecute those crimes, yet they throw some guy in the gulag for 20 years for strolling around the capitol for 20 minutes and daring to question how an 80 year old senile fool managed to get 12M more votes than Obama and the votes that barely put him over the top were magically counted at 3-4AM in the morning

[aussenseiter]

I think you're being too generous. Most of the "rioters" shouldn't have gotten any time at all, much less multiple years.

Even a month in prison when you literally didn't do anything but walk around confused for like twenty minutes is a totally malicious prosecution.

Mean/median/mode sentence length go.

[aussenseiter]

Now do the organized flash mobs that are looting and pillaging retail stores in Deep Blue shitholes

Dems don't want to prosecute those crimes, yet they throw some guy in the gulag for 20 years for strolling around the capitol for 20 minutes and daring to question how an 80 year old senile fool managed to get 12M more votes than Obama and the votes that barely put him over the top were magically counted at 3-4AM in the morning

Speeding ticket argument. Away with you beggar!

[Elizondo]

Speeding ticket argument. Away with you beggar!

Dodge noted