NY GRAND JURY VOTES TO INDICT TRUMP

[Lune]

Does a pistol ban solve anything or is that just a trick and all guns would be classed pistols suddenly?

Abortion? BAN IT
Gay marriage? BAN IT
Birth control? BAN IT
Puberty blockers? BAN EM
Drugs? BAN EM
Guns?

Look, banning things never works. People will find ways to get them.

[Elizondo]

200M+

and counting

[Lune]

:) HAH

https://i.imgur.com/yvHHvhI.jpg

[TheBardo]

:)

https://i.imgur.com/yvHHvhI.jpg

I DEMAND U RELEASE THE HUNTER BINDENN PENUS MUGSOT

[TheBardo]

200M+

and counting

I thought you said you would stop posting if trump was indicted

[TheBardo]

With the next phase of Operation: Get Orange Man underway, I'm putting all my chips on the table

Here is the bet:

If Trump gets indicted I will cease to post in Off Topic

[Lune]

Elizondo won't even provide any conditions under which he would ever acknowledge Trump had committed a crime, including conviction by jury, or self-admission.

[TheBardo]

In all seriousness Elizondo, what is your analysis of Trump's legal jeopardy at this point of time?

[Elizondo]

Correction:

230M+

and counting

[TheBardo]

what are we counting? i don't understand

[magnetaress]

Abortion? BAN IT
Gay marriage? BAN IT
Birth control? BAN IT
Puberty blockers? BAN EM
Drugs? BAN EM
Guns?

Look, banning things never works. People will find ways to get them.

Banning these things won't solve the root issues lol.

[magnetaress]

Butt feel free to do so and see how that works out for ya!

[TheBardo]

Elizondo can you summerize your thoughts WITHOUT using the heston laughing meme, would be much appreciated. thanks

[BigChief]

https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/67b862359792e3fa4d96d908ac9d798a282f8b7df376463be3 365c2d40024cbd.jpg?w=800&h=307

[Lune]

Banning these things won't solve the root issues lol.

satire

[Elizondo]

Elizondo can you summerize your thoughts WITHOUT using the heston laughing meme, would be much appreciated. thanks

Topic: Place Your Bets

https://www.project1999.com/forums/showthread.php?t=406702

Here is the bet:

If Trump gets indicted and The Orange King gets put in leg irons and an orange jump suit I will cease to post in Off Topic the day he is tossed in jail

If this turns out to yet another Nothingburger (like The Mueller Investigation) all of you infected with TDS will cease posting in Off Topic

Let It Ride

Nobody took me up on the bet (including you)

hth

[Trexller]

:) HAH

https://i.imgur.com/yvHHvhI.jpg

OMG LOL

BEST MUGSHOT EVER

so many memes will come of this, for decades, nay centuries we're gonna see that mugshot

just when I thought trump couldn't be amusing anymore

[Botten]

what are we counting? i don't understand

He is going off the debunked theory that the amount of views of the interview between Trump and Tucker on what use to be called Twitter holds water towards Trump getting re-elected. :rolleyes:

Only it doesn't which others have pointed out.

Please Note: Elon Musk has eliminated the ability of anyone to know how long any one viewer who clicked on the link actually spent watching Trump and Carlson talk, any numbers assigned to the real viewership are to be considered meaningless.

-Remember, the broadcast on X (formerly known as Twitter) lasted for 4 hours.

Just as a for instance, it was shown a 100,000 people did a connect click onto the X broadcast 1,000 times each. They weren't individual clicks but simply duplicate clicks by similar accounts ranging in the thousands.

We had like what about 156 Million votes in the last election?
I think EZ truly thinks if the number of views gets to 340+ million then he will equate this to the entire population of the US will unanimously vote Trump in 2024.

Ha Ha Ha

TRUMP MUGSHOT (https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/donald-trump/donald-trump-mugshot-georgia-jail-fulton-county-arrest-rcna101664)! GOP right leaning independents just jumped ship. Congratz Conservatives!

https://media-cldnry.s-nbcnews.com/image/upload/t_fit-1240w,f_auto,q_auto:best/rockcms/2023-08/230824-donald-trump-mugshot-2x1-cs-254ed2.jpg

[TheBardo]

Topic: Place Your Bets

https://www.project1999.com/forums/showthread.php?t=406702



Nobody took me up on the bet (including you)

hth

Fair enough just pulling your leg :)

[Patriam1066]

:) HAH

https://i.imgur.com/yvHHvhI.jpg

Looks like he’s doing blue steel

[Trexller]

Looks like he’s doing blue steel

LOL HAHA IT DOES

oh shit lol im literally LOL

https://www.cineworld.co.uk/xmedia-cw/repo/articles/hero/ZOOLANDER_BANNER_2.png
https://i.imgur.com/yvHHvhI.jpg

[TheBardo]

As mugshots go, it’s pretty good.

[Lune]

They got the lighting a little better than they did for some of his other cronies

[Trexller]

They got the lighting a little better than they did for some of his other cronies

just had a thought

there's no way that mugshot is legit...

that photo had to be provided to the jail

the lighting is great, purposefully cast, jails don't do glam shots...

[unsunghero]

As mugshots go, it’s pretty good.

^

Yea not bad, yknow he practiced that shit

[unsunghero]

I always wondered whether I should smile or scowl for my mugshot

Now I think I gonna go with scowl

[Origen]

Topic: Place Your Bets

https://www.project1999.com/forums/showthread.php?t=406702



Nobody took me up on the bet (including you)

hthYou avoided my multiple offers at bets. Raise the stakes of your bet, a day of no posting isn't shit. Let's make it about the election itself.

[Trexller]

You avoided my multiple offers at bets. Raise the stakes of your bet, a day of no posting isn't shit. Let's make it about the election itself.

he said he'd never post in off topic again

no libbies want that?

[Origen]

he said he'd never post in off topic again

no libbies want that?He uses multiple accounts, raise the stakes.

[Origen]

I mean, shackles are too specific. My ex had to wear black and white stripes when she was in jail, it is still a thing in the south, but leg irons is too specific a bet. Go broader or go home.

[Trexller]

He uses multiple accounts, raise the stakes.

i doubt it, no one else uses Elizondo's umm, juvenile vernacular.

unless the guy spends his days switching between characters on the forum, but this would suggest an intelligence that i don't believe is there

take the bet!

[Origen]

Nope, bad bet, too narrow.

[Elizondo]

You avoided my multiple offers at bets. Raise the stakes of your bet, a day of no posting isn't shit. Let's make it about the election itself.

I linked the thread

The stakes were forever

https://www.project1999.com/forums/showthread.php?t=406702

With the next phase of Operation: Get Orange Man underway, I'm putting all my chips on the table

Here is the bet:

If Trump gets indicted and The Orange King gets put in leg irons and an orange jump suit I will cease to post in Off Topic the day he is tossed in jail

If this turns out to yet another Nothingburger (like The Mueller Investigation) all of you infected with TDS will cease posting in Off Topic

Let It Ride



No takers (including you)

Here are your responses

I am not taking this bet either way. I've previously stated I believe he'll wriggle his way out of this jam just like he's wriggled out of every previous jam.

I hope I'm wrong.

Yeah, nobody's taking you up on your bet because they're so afraid of your confidence in your position. It has nothing to do with the incredibly high stakes of... uh... whether or not we potentially post in off-topic.

Maybe raise the stakes and offer one whole Dogecoin :rolleyes:

It's also a bad wager because I personally need Elizondo to post.

and lawl at you accusing me of posting on multiple accounts when that is exactly what you do. Projection much?

[Trexller]

Nope, bad bet, too narrow.

you're afraid you'll lose to Elizondo and be forced onto another alt account

[unsunghero]

Nah, too few people posting already, no bets to leave

Other ideas:

Loser has to vote for the opposite candidate

Loser has to attend a Trump rally or a Drag Show, winner picks which

[aussenseiter]

Abortion? BAN IT
Gay marriage? BAN IT
Birth control? BAN IT
Puberty blockers? BAN EM
Drugs? BAN EM
Guns?

Look, banning things never works. People will find ways to get them.

Which of those things are currently banned by the United States?

[unsunghero]

Abortion? BAN IT
Gay marriage? BAN IT
Birth control? BAN IT
Puberty blockers? BAN EM
Drugs? BAN EM
Guns?

Look, banning things never works. People will find ways to get them.

Drugs really are in a league of their own here though

When we consider people “finding a way to get them”, this one has both a physical and the strongest psychological addiction of any substance in the world (if we talking meth or fent/tranq)

A straight man won’t suck a dick for a gun. A girl won’t take an ass pounding for a gun

Both will for some hard drugs

[unsunghero]

^
Also has ripple effects on the topic of the month: crime

I sure would love to drug test looters and see how many really are stealing to feed their kids or how many have UA’s coming back positive for fent or meth

[Trexller]

that got dark fast

lemme lighten the mood

https://i.imgur.com/yvHHvhI.jpg

[magnetaress]

Which of those things are currently banned by the United States?

Drugs and guns sort of.

[aussenseiter]

Drugs and guns sort of.

Does that help Lube's point?

e: leaving it

[Trexller]

Lube

lol

[Duik]

Trumperman should really have worn the superman onesie when he handed himself in.

Then, make an NFT of that picture.
License to print maga money right there.

[aussenseiter]

Trumperman should really have worn the superman onesie when he handed himself in.

Then, make an NFT of that picture.
License to print maga money right there.

But is it a Myspace angle? He smuggling a big turkey neck under his chin

[aussenseiter]

Jenna Ellis had the prettiest mugshot.

[Lune]

Which of those things are currently banned by the United States?

Which of things do Republicans want to ban?

Hint: All of the above, except guns and, maybe, birth control... unless you're Clarence Thomas

[Trexller]

gotta have birth control

it's not like we're gonna have time to teach our daughters about honor and integrity, with all of the gun stuff we have to do

besides if we teach our daughters about abstinence then we're basically just cock blocking other guys and then who is the real loser

[aussenseiter]

Which of things do Republicans want to ban?

Hint: All of the above, except guns and, maybe, birth control... unless you're Clarence Thomas

No I said currently. Don't be a weasel, that's my turf. ;)

It may be the Burger court went a lil wild with their substantive due process jurisprudence.

[aussenseiter]

Would it be a "ban" if the United States stopped restraining her constituent states from restricting contraception?

Hey hey smaller government. 🐿️

[magnetaress]

But is it a Myspace angle? He smuggling a big turkey neck under his chin

I can't fault ppl for this u do what you gotta do

[Trexller]

I can't fault ppl for this u do what you gotta do

i've always wondered why trump wouldn't have some japanese plastic surgeon fix his neck

he obviously spray tans, dyes his hair, most likely has had other cosmetic surgery, he's super vain so why wouldn't he

[Homesteaded]

that got dark fast

lemme lighten the mood

https://i.imgur.com/yvHHvhI.jpg

I was hoping for a smile but Blue Steel plays.

[Trexller]

yeah... whoever heard of a jail giving you a copy of your mugshot?

after not posting on twitter for 2 years

trump posts on Xtwitter "never surrender" 2 hours after legally surrendering to authorities.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/F4Vymo9XsAAHLJV?format=jpg&name=medium

[Ekco]

https://i.imgur.com/4mFf55Q.jpg

[magnetaress]

i've always wondered why trump wouldn't have some japanese plastic surgeon fix his neck

he obviously spray tans, dyes his hair, most likely has had other cosmetic surgery, he's super vain so why wouldn't he

Hypochondria?

[unsunghero]

yeah... whoever heard of a jail giving you a copy of your mugshot?

after not posting on twitter for 2 years

trump posts on Xtwitter "never surrender" 2 hours after legally surrendering to authorities.


If my mugshot came out good and I could tell at the jail, I’d definitely be calling and emailing PD “hey guys, send me that plx” ;)

[Origen]

I linked the thread

The stakes were forever

https://www.project1999.com/forums/showthread.php?t=406702



No takers (including you)

Here are your responses







and lawl at you accusing me of posting on multiple accounts when that is exactly what you do. Projection much?Raise the stakes

[Duik]

bRaise the stakes

Fixed.

[Origen]

Fixed.Good idea going to butcher later

[Trexller]

Raise the stakes

loser has to cut off a finger Yakuza style live streaming on twitch

[arvidez]

was challenged to test my 6 yr old's ability to recognize past and present politicians. yall have made him so famous.

you hate him the same way people hated jr ewing, as though it were your own.

the hate was put into you.

[aussenseiter]

Is the mugshot carrying all the weight of this story or is there another reason people are all excited about this particular indictment?

[azeth]

Is the mugshot carrying all the weight of this story or is there another reason people are all excited about this particular indictment?

Because unlike the documents case, this will send him to state prison for the rest of his life - and his offenses cannot be pardoned (including by the gov of GA)

[aussenseiter]

Because unlike the documents case, this will send him to state prison for the rest of his life - and his offenses cannot be pardoned (including by the gov of GA)

Dual sovereignty must be crushed by a hero's heel. One crown.

vU8eL2CjzHw

[Trexller]

Because unlike the documents case, this will send him to state prison for the rest of his life - and his offenses cannot be pardoned (including by the gov of GA)

Emperor Musk would be able to handle it

super easy, barely an inconvenience

[aussenseiter]

A4wGmQN2aNw

[Origen]

loser has to cut off a finger Yakuza style live streaming on twitchOkay maybe not that high, Elizondo prob needs his fingers as much as I do

[Sadre Spinegnawer]

:) HAH

https://i.imgur.com/yvHHvhI.jpg

What a poseur. I grew up on Long Island and this joke has been scrounging for press and attention his entire life. He is, as New Yorkers say, a first-rate schmuck.

This is the picture of man who if you did a fake punch move on him, his nose would start bleeding. There is no real toughness to him. He has the toughness of a fake, a trustfund kid all decked out in bully boy attitude. Very common NYC type. The goal is to get them punched in the nose and taught some lessons about what real toughs do.

And he is considered by millions, to be the real deal. It's a cult. It's a con job. It's both!

Supporting Trump leaves you with two options:


You are a nihilist who wants to see things fall apart
You are a gullible idiot

[Origen]

The Fanta Menace

[Ooloo]

Because unlike the documents case, this will send him to state prison for the rest of his life - and his offenses cannot be pardoned (including by the gov of GA)

No it won't. This case is even more ridiculous than the documents case. The documents case he at least technically did something kind of illegal, though I don't think he understood he was doing anything illegal.

This case you basically have to read his mind and claim he knew he lost when there's basically zero evidence he thought he lost, and a mountain of evidence that he thought he won. If the trial is even remotely fair, there's essentially no way for the prosecution to prove anything.

"Find the votes" does not mean "fabricate fake votes". It means literally find the votes that are legitimate, and exist, and aren't being counted due to impropriety by various actors. The entire phonecall he was alleging fraud. It makes no sense to allege fraud while also acknowledging you lost legitimately.

These people are deranged, completely partisan, and have no interest in actual justice. It's a huge dog and pony show.

[Origen]

No it won't. This case is even more ridiculous than the documents case. The documents case he at least technically did something kind of illegal, though I don't think he understood he was doing anything illegal.

This case you basically have to read his mind and claim he knew he lost when there's basically zero evidence he thought he lost, and a mountain of evidence that he thought he won. If the trial is even remotely fair, there's essentially no way for the prosecution to prove anything.

"Find the votes" does not mean "fabricate fake votes". It means literally find the votes that are legitimate, and exist, and aren't being counted due to impropriety by various actors. The entire phonecall he was alleging fraud. It makes no sense to allege fraud while also acknowledging you lost legitimately.

These people are deranged, completely partisan, and have no interest in actual justice. It's a huge dog and pony show.Desperate

[azeth]

nah

[Ooloo]

Desperate

Haha not really bud, just pointing out the prosecution has no case. Like at all.

Sorry to pee in your coffee, I know you're obsessed with seeing this rich doofus go to jail for some deranged reason.

[aussenseiter]

Haha not really bud, just pointing out the prosecution has no case. Like at all.

Sorry to pee in your coffee, I know you're obsessed with seeing this rich doofus go to jail for some deranged reason.

If electoral fuck-fuck games aren't allowed, why are contingent elections in the damn thing?

[MrSparkle001]

Haha not really bud, just pointing out the prosecution has no case. Like at all.

Sorry to pee in your coffee, I know you're obsessed with seeing this rich doofus go to jail for some deranged reason.

If it was any other person the prosecution would never get a conviction, but this is Trump. There is NO way there will be an impartial jury or judge.

Anyone with half a brain can see what's going on here.

[Botten]

If it was any other person the prosecution would never get a conviction, but this is Trump. There is NO way there will be an impartial jury or judge.

Anyone with half a brain can see what's going on here.

This.

And it will work out for the best. We don't need the hicks rising up out of their cult like devotion. Lets change them or their offspring with education and progression.

The damage to Trump is piling up nicely and he won't try to run again after 2024.
He will simply be yet another shameful note to the party that has given us Nixon and Bush.

Let him go as a disgrace and a warning to other Republican's trying to pull a scandalous activity.

Making less of a Martyr allows more of a chance to chip away further at their voter base. Their zealot decline has been steadily trending down year after year.

Oh and they may never win a popular vote ever again in a presidential election.

[Ooloo]

"Yes this trial is a total sham and it's good" -botten

Thanks for the honesty! You'd make a great north korean official

[Patriam1066]

There’s been a trial already?

[Ooloo]

There’s been a trial already?

No, we're referring to the future trial- which will be a total sham and botten thinks its good. Clear?

But yes, this whole moronic indictment and pretend-time court drama are also a total sham.

[Botten]

Did Nixon receive retribution for his treason?

Did George W. Bush receive retribution for sending us into a senseless war after admittance there was no weapons of mass destruction?

They weren't given the chance to serve a justice like sentence. No need to make them Martyrs. No need to have GOP voters stand up for these presidents' ill made decisions.

Instead they are shamed. Many of the GOP voters see them as shameful.

That is what we need for Trump in time. That is what the voters need to see in time about the shameful party. Your shameful party.

[aussenseiter]

Did Nixon receive retribution for his treason?

Did George W. Bush receive retribution for sending us into a senseless war after admittance there was no weapons of mass destruction?

They weren't given the chance to serve a justice like sentence. No need to make them Martyrs. No need to have GOP voters stand up for these presidents' ill made decisions.

Instead they are shamed. Many of the GOP voters see them as shameful.

That is what we need for Trump in time. That is what the voters need to see in time about the shameful party. Your shameful party.

Iraq was justified with or without WMDs.

[Ooloo]

Did Nixon receive retribution for his treason?

Did George W. Bush receive retribution for sending us into a senseless war after admittance there was no weapons of mass destruction?

They weren't given the chance to serve a justice like sentence. No need to make them Martyrs. No need to have GOP voters stand up for these presidents' ill made decisions.

Instead they are shamed. Many of the GOP voters see them as shameful.

That is what we need for Trump in time. That is what the voters need to see in time about the shameful party. Your shameful party.

I honestly can't parse this. What? So, we should imprison trump for not committing a crime because why? Nixon? Huh?

[Ooloo]

Reminder: Dems are completely upending any semblance of blind justice and engaging in the most blatantly egregious banana republic behavior because of this guy:

https://i.imgur.com/91r13KT.gif

We aren't serious people.

[Botten]

I honestly can't parse this. What? So, we should imprison trump for not committing a crime because why? Nixon? Huh?

...Lets change them or their offspring with education and progression. ...


Whether you get it or you don't really doesn't make a difference now. Now does it? The future generations will see Trump for just another scandalous act by the GOP party who didn't pay for what he did, like Nixon and Bush.

[magnetaress]

so from what i can see some rural county officials have a beef with trump and his pals and its a fairly legitimate one, even if they get granted a federal judge the only thing they really get out of it is a bigger jury selection.

It seems like fulton county has some legitimate beefs with the way things been run as of late! past few years so they got some bitey folks up in there just excited to do something about big wig politicians from up state and out of state meddling in their elections.

Not a good look lawl.

[magnetaress]

honestly this is my biggest gripe about american elections too is ppl:

A) jerrymandering
B) rural and low income counties getting shafted and leaned on or having their votes thrown out and shit and ppl just generally being craptastic to the poll workers/ppl who put in the hard hours and work to make sure everything is tried and tru for their lil community

[magnetaress]

it would be really good for both parties to clean up their act in this department

[aussenseiter]

so from what i can see some rural county officials have a beef with trump and his pals and its a fairly legitimate one, even if they get granted a federal judge the only thing they really get out of it is a bigger jury selection.

It seems like fulton county has some legitimate beefs with the way things been run as of late! past few years so they got some bitey folks up in there just excited to do something about big wig politicians from up state and out of state meddling in their elections.

Not a good look lawl.

Fulton County is not rural. They're state officials.

[Ooloo]

Trump is also not a "big wig politician", he was literally never a politician until 2016 and I'm pretty sure he didn't even expect to win and was just doing it for publicity and brand recognition or something.

Know who is though? Joe Biden! Literally in government for 50 years, somehow becomes multi-millionaire along with most of his family on a senator's salary, and tries to throw primary political opponent in jail for a bajillion years. Not a great look!

[Sadre Spinegnawer]

No it won't. This case is even more ridiculous than the documents case. The documents case he at least technically did something kind of illegal, though I don't think he understood he was doing anything illegal.

This case you basically have to read his mind and claim he knew he lost when there's basically zero evidence he thought he lost, and a mountain of evidence that he thought he won. If the trial is even remotely fair, there's essentially no way for the prosecution to prove anything.

"Find the votes" does not mean "fabricate fake votes". It means literally find the votes that are legitimate, and exist, and aren't being counted due to impropriety by various actors. The entire phonecall he was alleging fraud. It makes no sense to allege fraud while also acknowledging you lost legitimately.

These people are deranged, completely partisan, and have no interest in actual justice. It's a huge dog and pony show.

^^ Not how the law works. If it did....

If the law released every defendant who can prove beyond reasonable doubt they really didn't know what they were doing, there would maybe be two, three prisons in the entire country.

If the law released, among those remaining, everyone who can prove beyond a reasonable doubt that no one can know for sure what was in their mind, we are down to one cell.

The nature of any crime involves a specification of its duration. The thing about a conspiracy is, it's the opposite of a crime of passion, for example. It generates a lot of records.

Cheating because you think you got cheated, I hate to break it to you, is still cheating. And conspiracies, yikes.

Remember the dudes in Casino who were caught cheating? One guy got his hand hammered? Imagine the plot went, that those two guys went back to their hotel room, furious, and convinced they were wrongly accused, and they then go back to the casino, to cheat that rotten place. They claim they can prove they were wrongly accused, but they never can. No court believes that it wasn't them scouting dealer hands.

You are saying, essentially, it is totally irrational that DeNiro, if this were the plot, wants to now break both of his hands, and so who in their right mind could even find such an outcome believable, unless they simply have a known dislike for card sharks.

OK?

[Lune]

No it won't. This case is even more ridiculous than the documents case. The documents case he at least technically did something kind of illegal, though I don't think he understood he was doing anything illegal.

This case you basically have to read his mind and claim he knew he lost when there's basically zero evidence he thought he lost, and a mountain of evidence that he thought he won. If the trial is even remotely fair, there's essentially no way for the prosecution to prove anything.

These people are deranged, completely partisan, and have no interest in actual justice. It's a huge dog and pony show.

So you're assuming propriety on behalf of Trump, and impropriety on behalf of "various actors", to make the point: "This is a sham trial because Trump is so clearly innocent and those 'various actors' are so clearly nefarious!" Wow, great point! Even if it were just about the phone call there could be a case. Unfortunately for him, I think it's also about the trump allies on film in Coffee County, Georgia illegally accessing voting machines, as well as plotting between Trump and his cronies to create fake, pro-Trump electors in Georgia, in addition to the phone call. Giuliani specifically, acting as Trump's lawyer, is in trouble for drafting fraudulent certificates of ascertainment and trying to get Georgia officials to sign them. Coupled with the phone call from Trump, that could very well be racketeering.

"Find the votes" does not mean "fabricate fake votes". It means literally find the votes that are legitimate, and exist, and aren't being counted due to impropriety by various actors. The entire phonecall he was alleging fraud. It makes no sense to allege fraud while also acknowledging you lost legitimately.

During the call, Trump falsely implied Raffensperger could have committed a criminal offense by refusing to overturn Georgia's election results in Trump's favor. Then why the fuck was he asking specifically for the number of votes he had lost by, plus one? Trump gave him a specific number of votes he wanted him to find lol.

"What I want to do is this. I just want to find, uh, 11,780 votes, which is one more than (the 11,779 vote margin of defeat) we have, because we won the state."

Add all these things up and you've got some RICO predicates. Whether this goes anywhere is going to depend on the evidence they have, which we don't know the full extent of. But given they have hard video evidence of at least one of the RICO predicates.....

[Sadre Spinegnawer]

Iraq was justified with or without WMDs.

Yeah, justified as what? A liberation of angry sectarian tribalism, ala steam cooker pressure relief valve? Hussein operated a territory. Iraq is religiously closer to Iran than his government ever would have liked.

Do you mean it was justified in the sense of a required chaos engine? A surprisingly effective life sink in a superfluous population?

Looking at Cheney and Rumsfeld, what am I looking at? Certainly not lawful neutral.

[aussenseiter]

^^ Not how the law works. If it did....

If the law released every defendant who can prove beyond reasonable doubt they really didn't know what they were doing, there would maybe be two, three prisons in the entire country.

If the law released, among those remaining, everyone who can prove beyond a reasonable doubt that no one can know for sure what was in their mind, we are down to one cell.

The nature of any crime involves a specification of its duration. The thing about a conspiracy is, it's the opposite of a crime of passion, for example. It generates a lot of records.

Cheating because you think you got cheated, I hate to break it to you, is still cheating. And conspiracies, yikes.

Remember the dudes in Casino who were caught cheating? One guy got his hand hammered? Imagine the plot went, that those two guys went back to their hotel room, furious, and convinced they were wrongly accused, and they then go back to the casino, to cheat that rotten place. They claim they can prove they were wrongly accused, but they never can. No court believes that it wasn't them scouting dealer hands.

You are saying, essentially, it is totally irrational that DeNiro, if this were the plot, wants to now break both of his hands, and so who in their right mind could even find such an outcome believable, unless they simply have a known dislike for card sharks.

OK?

You'd be surprised at the things I don't know. (https://www.aclu-wa.org/pages/q-blake-decision)

The court ruled that the statute violated the due process clause of the constitution. Without any mental state requirement, the law criminalized “unknowing” drug possession and people could be arrested and convicted even if they did not realize they had drugs in their possession. The majority concluded, “The legislature’s police power goes far, but not that far.”

[aussenseiter]

Yeah, justified as what? A liberation of angry sectarian tribalism, ala steam cooker pressure relief valve? Hussein operated a territory. Iraq is religiously closer to Iran than his government ever would have liked.

Do you mean it was justified in the sense of a required chaos engine? A surprisingly effective life sink in a superfluous population?

Looking at Cheney and Rumsfeld, what am I looking at? Certainly not lawful neutral.

Jus ad bellum, a just war. Hussein was a murderous despot.

[Ooloo]

During the call, Trump falsely implied Raffensperger could have committed a criminal offense by refusing to overturn Georgia's election results in Trump's favor. Then why the fuck was he asking specifically for the number of votes he had lost by, plus one? Trump gave him a specific number of votes he wanted him to find lol.

"What I want to do is this. I just want to find, uh, 11,780 votes, which is one more than (the 11,779 vote margin of defeat) we have, because we won the state."

Add all these things up and you've got some RICO predicates. Whether this goes anywhere is going to depend on the evidence they have, which we don't know the full extent of. But given they have hard video evidence of at least one of the RICO predicates.....

He asked for one more because then he wins the state, which he believed he did. He was saying "I legit won, I know it's a headache to dig through all this stuff, so here's the exact number needed. I'm confident those votes are out there if you'll take the time to look for them.".

It makes no sense to allege election fraud on the same phonecall where you supposedly ask for fabricated votes. Trump is either a buffoon or an evil genius according to you, but he can't be both.

Also it's not a crime to "falsely imply" something. You're allowed to just be wrong. It's not a crime to be wrong in your beliefs. If it were, hillary would be in prison, biden, stacey abrahms, every single dem who has also denied election results.

You're such a loyal and dedicated statist, it's incredible.

[Iron Chob]

No it won't. This case is even more ridiculous than the documents case. The documents case he at least technically did something kind of illegal, though I don't think he understood he was doing anything illegal.

This case you basically have to read his mind and claim he knew he lost when there's basically zero evidence he thought he lost, and a mountain of evidence that he thought he won. If the trial is even remotely fair, there's essentially no way for the prosecution to prove anything.

"Find the votes" does not mean "fabricate fake votes". It means literally find the votes that are legitimate, and exist, and aren't being counted due to impropriety by various actors. The entire phonecall he was alleging fraud. It makes no sense to allege fraud while also acknowledging you lost legitimately.

These people are deranged, completely partisan, and have no interest in actual justice. It's a huge dog and pony show.


Jesus H Christ.

Re: Paragraph 1 - "Ignorance of the Law" is not a viable defence, ever.

Re: Paragraph 2 - you don't have to read minds. You assemble evidence to prove something beyond reasonable doubt. In the absence of reasonable doubt, you accept the weight of accusatory evidence.

Re:Paragraph 3 - accepting the premise that appropriately empowered, trained, capable and experienced personnel accepted that the votes were cast and counted in accordance with transparency and thus were correct and valid, any dispute then becomes about proving the previous statement is/was incorrect. Which multiple litigations at the time found no evidence to support. Thus, continued and/or subsequent complaints about a "rigged" or "stolen" election are unproven and unsubstantiated allegations, having no basis in legal, electoral or procedural fact.

Re:Paragraph 3, last statement - equally, it makes perfect sense to engage in fraud whilst knowing you lost legitimately. That particular knife cuts both ways and is part of the brief of alleged criminality.

Simple assessment - The dude lost. He didn't like it. He went nutsoid crazy and tried to encourage disobedience and criminal conspiracy and activity in retaliation.

OR

the entire system is rigged against him personally, because he scares the shadowy elites who control everything and he's the only guy in the world who can stop them.

One of those two statements makes sense and appears rational and supported by a decent body of evidence, in various forms (eyewitness, audio, video, sworn testimony). The other sounds utterly megalomaniacally unhinged.

Whether you agree with Trump or not, are a Biden tragic or not, the fundamental reality is that things are individually perceived one way and not another. We live in a shared reality and for it to function, we all therefore have to accept basic interpretations or else society crumbles into anarchy and discord....which appears exactly the goal of Trump's belligerence.

If such an environment appeals to you, go for it - I simply request that when law and order crumbles in the face of Mad Max style futsies arguing their reality is right and yours isn't, you accept the outcomes of leaders having narcissistic disregard for accepted norms.

[Botten]

Trump is also not a "big wig politician", he was literally never a politician until 2016 and I'm pretty sure he didn't even expect to win and was just doing it for publicity and brand recognition or something.

Know who is though? Joe Biden! Literally in government for 50 years, somehow becomes multi-millionaire along with most of his family on a senator's salary, and tries to throw primary political opponent in jail for a bajillion years. Not a great look!

Foreign interference made promises and delivered on them for Trump.

You seem to forget Biden releases his Taxes and Trump doesn’t.

Sorry you are wrong all the time and easily triggered about the obvious corruption Trump is being realized for by voters.

What is this his 4th indictment/arrest?

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[TheBardo]

So you're assuming propriety on behalf of Trump, and impropriety on behalf of "various actors", to make the point: "This is a sham trial because Trump is so clearly innocent and those 'various actors' are so clearly nefarious!" Wow, great point! Even if it were just about the phone call there could be a case. Unfortunately for him, I think it's also about the trump allies on film in Coffee County, Georgia illegally accessing voting machines, as well as plotting between Trump and his cronies to create fake, pro-Trump electors in Georgia, in addition to the phone call. Giuliani specifically, acting as Trump's lawyer, is in trouble for drafting fraudulent certificates of ascertainment and trying to get Georgia officials to sign them. Coupled with the phone call from Trump, that could very well be racketeering.



During the call, Trump falsely implied Raffensperger could have committed a criminal offense by refusing to overturn Georgia's election results in Trump's favor. Then why the fuck was he asking specifically for the number of votes he had lost by, plus one? Trump gave him a specific number of votes he wanted him to find lol.

"What I want to do is this. I just want to find, uh, 11,780 votes, which is one more than (the 11,779 vote margin of defeat) we have, because we won the state."

Add all these things up and you've got some RICO predicates. Whether this goes anywhere is going to depend on the evidence they have, which we don't know the full extent of. But given they have hard video evidence of at least one of the RICO predicates.....

save yourself some time and raise these points with your dog. You'll have a more insightful converstation

[Ooloo]

Jesus H Christ.

Re: Paragraph 1 - "Ignorance of the Law" is not a viable defence, ever.

Re: Paragraph 2 - you don't have to read minds. You assemble evidence to prove something beyond reasonable doubt. In the absence of reasonable doubt, you accept the weight of accusatory evidence.

Re:Paragraph 3 - accepting the premise that appropriately empowered, trained, capable and experienced personnel accepted that the votes were cast and counted in accordance with transparency and thus were correct and valid, any dispute then becomes about proving the previous statement is/was incorrect. Which multiple litigations at the time found no evidence to support. Thus, continued and/or subsequent complaints about a "rigged" or "stolen" election are unproven and unsubstantiated allegations, having no basis in legal, electoral or procedural fact.

Re:Paragraph 3, last statement - equally, it makes perfect sense to engage in fraud whilst knowing you lost legitimately. That particular knife cuts both ways and is part of the brief of alleged criminality.

Simple assessment - The dude lost. He didn't like it. He went nutsoid crazy and tried to encourage disobedience and criminal conspiracy and activity in retaliation.

OR

the entire system is rigged against him personally, because he scares the shadowy elites who control everything and he's the only guy in the world who can stop them.

One of those two statements makes sense and appears rational and supported by a decent body of evidence, in various forms (eyewitness, audio, video, sworn testimony). The other sounds utterly megalomaniacally unhinged.

Whether you agree with Trump or not, are a Biden tragic or not, the fundamental reality is that things are individually perceived one way and not another. We live in a shared reality and for it to function, we all therefore have to accept basic interpretations or else society crumbles into anarchy and discord....which appears exactly the goal of Trump's belligerence.

If such an environment appeals to you, go for it - I simply request that when law and order crumbles in the face of Mad Max style futsies arguing their reality is right and yours isn't, you accept the outcomes of leaders having narcissistic disregard for accepted norms.

No, you don't weigh accusatory evidence when it hasn't even met the threshold of evidentiary legitimacy in the first place. "Donald trump really meant fabricate fake votes despite what he actually said which wasn't that at all" isn't evidence, and it's essentially what is being alleged.

These are elected officials acting like children who want to put their older brother in jail for a bajillion years for stealing their favorite toy. It's completely absurd and a total insult to legitimate law.

Btw: "You assemble evidence to prove something beyond reasonable doubt. In the absence of reasonable doubt, you accept the weight of accusatory evidence." is one of the most despotic things I've ever read here. Guilt beyond a reasonable doubt absolutely IS the burden of proof required in any criminal trial in the US. I dunno what country you live in but yikesaroo.

[aussenseiter]

No, you don't weigh accusatory evidence when it hasn't even met the threshold of evidentiary legitimacy in the first place. "Donald trump really meant fabricate fake votes despite what he actually said which wasn't that at all" isn't evidence, and it's essentially what is being alleged.

These are elected officials acting like children who want to put their older brother in jail for a bajillion years for stealing their favorite toy. It's completely absurd and a total insult to legitimate law.

The short dunk is to say 'ballot curing' and leave her adrift.

[Ooloo]

What is this his 4th indictment/arrest?


Who cares? They hate the guy's guts, the number of times they try and fail to convict him on flimsy charges is an indictment of *them*, not him. I'm sure they'd waste millions of dollars on a failed conviction attempt if he removed one of those mattress tags or whatever too.

Meanwhile the bidens get away with soooo much worse things and you just dutifully look the other way.

I've said it before and it bears repeating: I don't even like donald trump, please stop forcing me to defend him

[magnetaress]

Fulton County is not rural. They're state officials.

You're right.

I read AP and NPR and some dumb no name article on some random website before coming to this conclusion.

I and the press should have Googled Fulton County before assuming it's demographics.

How is Fulton County jail so shite?

[aussenseiter]

You're right.

I read AP and NPR and some dumb no name article on some random website before coming to this conclusion.

I and the press should have Googled Fulton County before assuming it's demographics.

How is Fulton County jail so shite?

Large traffic maybe. 😼

[Botten]

Who cares? They hate the guy's guts, the number of times they try and fail to convict him on flimsy charges is an indictment of *them*, not him. I'm sure they'd waste millions of dollars on a failed conviction attempt if he removed one of those mattress tags or whatever too.

Benghazi

Meanwhile the bidens get away with soooo much worse things and you just dutifully look the other way.

Oh what did Joe Biden do? Because you and the Republican officials have found nothing.

[Trexller]

Oh what did Joe Biden do? Because you and the Republican officials have found nothing.

10 seconds on google:

Joe Biden Lied At Least 16 Times About His Family’s Business Schemes (https://oversight.house.gov/blog/joe-biden-lied-at-least-15-times-about-his-familys-business-schemes/)

and you expect people to think that it doesn't go deeper? or insanely deeper?

literally every politician is dirty in some way, it's a system of control and security. like how made men in the mafia had to be involved in homicides, it guarantees everyone has major interests which align which they all need to work together to protect.

if you really do believe that biden is clean, then you are dumber than you regularly make yourself sound on these forums, and I've got beachfront property in Arizona to sell you.

[Elizondo]

Dirty Dems still tryin to justify goin full Saddam Hussein

Maga King's mugshot over this sham indictment is a badge of honor

[Botten]

10 seconds on google:

Joe Biden Lied At Least 16 Times About His Family’s Business Schemes (https://oversight.house.gov/blog/joe-biden-lied-at-least-15-times-about-his-familys-business-schemes/)

and you expect people to think that it doesn't go deeper? or insanely deeper?

literally every politician is dirty in some way, it's a system of control and security. like how made men in the mafia had to be involved in homicides, it guarantees everyone has major interests which align which they all need to work together to protect.

if you really do believe that biden is clean, then you are dumber than you regularly make yourself sound on these forums, and I've got beachfront property in Arizona to sell you.

You go from Biden is lying to he is a mob boss. :rolleyes:

You know who was a recent president that was close to the mob?
Who demands loyalty?

Yeah GOP is that much of an embarrassment.

[Trexller]

You go from Biden is lying to he is a mob boss. :rolleyes:

You know who was a recent president that was close to the mob?
Who demands loyalty?

Yeah GOP is that much of an embarrassment.

none of this is relevant to the aforementioned topic

look at yourself, when presented with facts you minutes before claimed to not exist, you revert to whataboutism.

pathetic, no spine at all. no wonder your wife cheats.

[Botten]

none of this is relevant to the aforementioned topic

look at yourself, when presented with facts you minutes before claimed to not exist, you revert to whataboutism.

pathetic, no spine at all. no wonder your wife cheats.

LoL what? Republican's have nothing.

Even hilariously more evident when two GOP house members attempt to impeach President Biden resulting in this:

Rep. Boebert Addresses Spat with MTG on Fox News over ‘Little B***’ Comment (https://www.kulr8.com/news/national/rep-boebert-addresses-spat-with-mtg-on-fox-news-over-little-b-comment/video_bf8fbadf-9e43-5452-81cb-0974c2110290.html)

Classy Conservatives!

[unsunghero]

Is this the DA who is prosecuting Trump? I haven’t been following it much

Not the judge, but the one he is addressing

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=KsqzZyNeq9M

[Trexller]

yeah that concern has been raised a buncha times but the dems are just pretending that no conflict of interest exists because they don't care if they end up with a real conviction of trump, they just need to drag this out for another 15 months for the media optics

[Lune]

Yea because giving Trump media spotlight by shaming him publicly has worked so well for Democrats in the past

His people eat that shit up. This mugshot will most likely be a fundraising bonanza

[Origen]

Haha not really bud, just pointing out the prosecution has no case. Like at all.

Sorry to pee in your coffee, I know you're obsessed with seeing this rich doofus go to jail for some deranged reason.I emailed your post to the district attorney and for some crazy reason the trial is still moving forward, despite your epic takedown.

[Trexller]

His people eat that shit up. This mugshot will most likely be a fundraising bonanza

they are counting on it. globohomo is using him to keep the populace divided and bickering amongst themselves as they build the groundwork for whatever the fuck they are trying to do

1984 might have been a written as a warning, but it's also an instruction manual

[Lune]

Yea "globohomo" really nailed that one getting the Supreme Court stacked with mindless partisan fundies

That's uhhh creative

[Elizondo]

Dirty Dems finally get their mugshot from a sham indictment and they can't stop whining cuz they know it's backfiring so badly

[Trexller]

Yea "globohomo" really nailed that one getting the Supreme Court stacked with mindless partisan fundies

The shit you people come up with

why wouldn't there be some behind-the-curtain cabal trying to pull strings toward their own beneficial ends?

this is literally how all of human history functioned, power has always been in the hands of the super ultra elite

why would today be any different? power is never, ever surrendered

thinking that anything is different in the modern day is short sighted and naive

[Botten]

Dirty Dems finally get their mugshot from a sham indictment and they can't stop whining cuz they know it's backfiring so badly

Poor EZ

Fri, August 25, 2023 at 3:00 PM
Iowa poll shows Florida gov closing the gap on Trump after first Republican debate (https://news.yahoo.com/iowa-poll-shows-florida-gov-190048258.html)

Don't like Yahoo News?
Citizen Awareness Project

Shows Trump drops to 41% to 43% approval over DeSantis.

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[Origen]

Dirty Dems finally get their mugshot from a sham indictment and they can't stop whining cuz they know it's backfiring so badlyIs it backfiring? Are the dems the ones whining? Is there a Joe Biden RICO case and series of mugshots?

Nah I'm having a great time with this one and I'm not even a Democrat. I'm sorry it's such a battle for you.

Also, let me know when you find the courage for a real wager.

[Evia]

You're the biggest cheerleader for the dems on this forum after botten. Surprising you claim not to be a dem.

Regardless of how you feel about Mr. Orange man. The fact that they can go after his legal team is highly suspect. What freedoms and rights do we as Americans have if we can't even have legal guidance? It's easy to watch it happen to someone you don't like and think "it'll never happen to me" until it does. All this signals to most Americans is that America has fallen.

[Sadre Spinegnawer]

You'd be surprised at the things I don't know. (https://www.aclu-wa.org/pages/q-blake-decision)

The drug example involves a known state of mind being disregarded by the conviction. Ooloo's defense of Trump implies we should take into account a claimed, but not provable, state of mind as a stipulation of any consideration of trial. That can be mitigating at best. No bearing on whether the trial is warranted or the charges are true.

[Sadre Spinegnawer]

Dirty Dems still tryin to justify goin full Saddam Hussein

Maga King's mugshot over this sham indictment is a badge of honor

What do you net for this? Buck a post + free room and board?

[Sadre Spinegnawer]

...globohomo...


There it is. Like a Swiss watch.

It's the tie that binds for every far-right political movement around the world. Fact.

[Sadre Spinegnawer]

why wouldn't there be some behind-the-curtain cabal trying to pull strings toward their own beneficial ends?

this is literally how all of human history functioned, power has always been in the hands of the super ultra elite

why would today be any different? power is never, ever surrendered

thinking that anything is different in the modern day is short sighted and naive

^^ negative minded person. Denies "progress" exists.

[aussenseiter]

You're the biggest cheerleader for the dems on this forum after botten. Surprising you claim not to be a dem.

Regardless of how you feel about Mr. Orange man. The fact that they can go after his legal team is highly suspect. What freedoms and rights do we as Americans have if we can't even have legal guidance? It's easy to watch it happen to someone you don't like and think "it'll never happen to me" until it does. All this signals to most Americans is that America has fallen.

The drug example involves a known state of mind being disregarded by the conviction. Ooloo's defense of Trump implies we should take into account a claimed, but not provable, state of mind as a stipulation of any consideration of trial. That can be mitigating at best. No bearing on whether the trial is warranted or the charges are true.

How was he to know his lawyers were lying to him?

[Elizondo]

Poor EZ

Fri, August 25, 2023 at 3:00 PM
Iowa poll shows Florida gov closing the gap on Trump after first Republican debate (https://news.yahoo.com/iowa-poll-shows-florida-gov-190048258.html)

Don't like Yahoo News?
Citizen Awareness Project

Shows Trump drops to 41% to 43% approval over DeSantis.

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A new poll from Public Opinion Strategies — a polling firm working for the DeSantis' campaign — shows Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis closing in on Trump among Iowa voters.

Releasing a campaign poll usually comes with an agenda or narrative and so the results should be taken with a grain of salt.

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[magnetaress]

i think theres special circumstances where u can go after the lawyers and the mob bosses and politicians behind and around someone who 'pretends to be squaky clean'

i would include bidden and kamala on this list too tho lawl who's ppl are /should be targetable

like i'm not disagreeing america has fallen, but the way to unfallen it is to go after the shitbirds witht he money, power, authority, and positions to keep it this way

[aussenseiter]

Greece wildfires: 79 people arrested for arson (https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-66612781)

"Arsonist scum are setting fires that threaten forests, property and, most of all, human lives," Mr Kikilias told Greeks during a televised emergency briefing on Thursday.

"You will not get away with it, we will find you, you will be held accountable."

🔥

[unsunghero]

Now the hood backin Trump because he was convicted

Kind of a weird way to win support but he’ll take it I guess

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=93p6YVpMGtk

[unsunghero]

You're the biggest cheerleader for the dems on this forum after botten. Surprising you claim not to be a dem.

Regardless of how you feel about Mr. Orange man. The fact that they can go after his legal team is highly suspect. What freedoms and rights do we as Americans have if we can't even have legal guidance? It's easy to watch it happen to someone you don't like and think "it'll never happen to me" until it does. All this signals to most Americans is that America has fallen.

Yeah supposedly some of his team were arrested just for making a phone call that he asked them to make

[Botten]

<EZ cannot handle being wrong.gif>

You going to blame the data is wrong too?

Go ahead and claim fakenews because you don’t agree with the data.

https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/polls/

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[Elizondo]

You going to blame the data is wrong too?

Go ahead and claim fakenews because you don’t agree with the data.

https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/polls/

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lawl you didn't even read the article

Typical Botten self own

[Ooloo]

Data can be wrong, it's not some beep-boop precise thing. Different data sets have different degrees of reliability and robustness depending on methodology and sample size. Especially opinion polls.

Hillary was projected to win in 2016 like 95% or something insane and still lost. Lotta good the polling did in that case!

[Landroval]

Facts are antisemitic. Y'all are boring as of late.

[Botten]

lawl you didn't even read the article

Typical Botten self own

Poor EZ

They do not work for DeSantis and further more there accuracy has already been looked into.

https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/pollster-ratings/public-opinion-strategies/

Based on the historical accuracy and methodology of each polling organization’s polls.
Public Opinion Strategies
Also known as NMB Research

Rating: B+

VIGO The Carpathian is losing

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[Landroval]

*yawns*

[mcoy]

VIGO The Carpathian is losing

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https://imgur.com/HvOivBz.gif

-Mcoy

[Ooloo]

Facts are antisemitic. Y'all are boring as of late.

Your conspiratorial anti-jewish tendency is pretty boring also.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DfR6S_2lj_U

(this video tends to piss off both crazy left wing people and crazy right wing people, see what you think!)

[Lune]

You're the biggest cheerleader for the dems on this forum after botten. Surprising you claim not to be a dem.

Regardless of how you feel about Mr. Orange man. The fact that they can go after his legal team is highly suspect. What freedoms and rights do we as Americans have if we can't even have legal guidance? It's easy to watch it happen to someone you don't like and think "it'll never happen to me" until it does. All this signals to most Americans is that America has fallen.

They're going after his legal team because his legal team appears to have committed crimes-- at least, they have enough evidence to try them. Giuliani in particular was trying to get Georgia election officials to sign fraudulent forms.

Lawyers have to operate not only under the same laws as you or I, they are supposed to adhere to professional rules of conduct like a doctor or any other profession that has a licensing board.

[Elizondo]

Poor EZ

They do not work for DeSantis and further more there accuracy has already been looked into.

https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/pollster-ratings/public-opinion-strategies/

Based on the historical accuracy and methodology of each polling organization’s polls.
Public Opinion Strategies
Also known as NMB Research

Rating: B+

VIGO The Carpathian is losing

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You ran with the headline and didn't read the article

Typical Botten fail

Pure Comedy

[Horza]

Facts are antisemitic. Y'all are boring as of late.

I see staff here is still cool with this guy's blatant dog whistling, wonder why this forum is a fucking ghost town.

[aussenseiter]

Your conspiratorial anti-jewish tendency is pretty boring also.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DfR6S_2lj_U

(this video tends to piss off both crazy left wing people and crazy right wing people, see what you think!)

Man comes to the right conclusion for the wrong damned reason.

"Jews are good because they don't practice Judaism."

🤨

[aussenseiter]

They're going after his legal team because his legal team appears to have committed crimes-- at least, they have enough evidence to try them. Giuliani in particular was trying to get Georgia election officials to sign fraudulent forms.

Lawyers have to operate not only under the same laws as you or I, they are supposed to adhere to professional rules of conduct like a doctor or any other profession that has a licensing board.

There's no superjail for lawyers. But maybe there should be.

[Botten]

You ran with the headline and didn't read the article

Typical Botten fail

Pure Comedy

You claiming anything in desperation.

Poor EZ

[Elizondo]

You claiming anything in desperation.

Poor EZ

lawl like 4 posts now of you attempting to recover and you are failing so badly

Sorry you can't read so good

Better luck next time

[Origen]

You're the biggest cheerleader for the dems on this forum after botten. Surprising you claim not to be a dem.

Regardless of how you feel about Mr. Orange man. The fact that they can go after his legal team is highly suspect. What freedoms and rights do we as Americans have if we can't even have legal guidance? It's easy to watch it happen to someone you don't like and think "it'll never happen to me" until it does. All this signals to most Americans is that America has fallen.Nah, the general sentiment here is "idiot reactionary" and idiot reactionaries assume my consistent criticism of conservative bullshit = support for Democrats. It doesn't.

They usually just don't know how to perceive problems without the partisan lens, that's precisely what the billionaires need them to see.

America dug its own grave the moment Trump won the Republican nomination, I just hope my family and I survive the coming transition.

[Lune]

There's no superjail for lawyers. But maybe there should be.

ke_Q6IhXvPM

[Origen]

There's no superjail for lawyers. But maybe there should be.Willing to accept this despite my general disdain for prison IF we can also put cops in superjail

[Lune]

Pretty sure there used to be a guy on P99 who was playing from a Swedish or Norwegian prison

[Origen]

I could see certain right-wing forum personalities finding a lot of common ground with Anders Breivik

[aussenseiter]

https://i.imgur.com/zq8ic2e.png

[Botten]

lawl like 4 posts now of you attempting to recover and you are failing so badly

Sorry you can't read so good

Better luck next time

So triggered he was wrong.

Poor EZ

Next debate is in September. I am curious if the percent spread will further change for poor Trump.
Trump will still be nominee (and that is a good thing.)

[Botten]

In other news I am kinda excited to read this :)

President Joe Biden says he will request more funding for a new coronavirus vaccine (https://www.msn.com/he-il/news/other/president-joe-biden-says-he-will-request-more-funding-for-a-new-coronavirus-vaccine/ar-AA1fN6PA)

Even if it is only $9 billion.

[aussenseiter]

Two Drinks Per Week? Alcohol Czar Says New Guidelines Are Coming (https://reason.com/2023/08/25/americas-alcohol-czar-wants-stricter-federal-guidelines-for-drinking/)

I sure could go for some Bolsheviks right now.

[Ooloo]

Nah, the general sentiment here is "idiot reactionary" and idiot reactionaries assume my consistent criticism of conservative bullshit = support for Democrats. It doesn't.

They usually just don't know how to perceive problems without the partisan lens, that's precisely what the billionaires need them to see.

America dug its own grave the moment Trump won the Republican nomination, I just hope my family and I survive the coming transition.

Yeah, I just constantly only criticize one side but that totally means I don't support the other side!

These damn reactionaries on the right who are the only people I ever criticize are so partisan! :D

[Landroval]

Your conspiratorial anti-jewish tendency is pretty boring also.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DfR6S_2lj_U

(this video tends to piss off both crazy left wing people and crazy right wing people, see what you think!)
I'm not clicking that shit, tardo

[Elizondo]

So triggered he was wrong.

Poor EZ

Next debate is in September. I am curious if the percent spread will further change for poor Trump.
Trump will still be nominee (and that is a good thing.)

lawl you linked an article you didn't even read. Botten self owned himself so badly

Your attempts at damage control not going according to plan

Hilarious

[Landroval]

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[Landroval]

I just hope my family and I survive the coming transition.

You have cancer, bro. Also, you have no kids. You should be more worried those two things, dumbass. No sense in worrying about the future when you have no stake in it.

[unsunghero]

In other news I am kinda excited to read this :)

President Joe Biden says he will request more funding for a new coronavirus vaccine (https://www.msn.com/he-il/news/other/president-joe-biden-says-he-will-request-more-funding-for-a-new-coronavirus-vaccine/ar-AA1fN6PA)

Even if it is only $9 billion.

How potent are these new strains?

It seems they have been getting weaker lately

Still waiting for my 7+ paid days off work when I catch ‘em. Had a gal friend recently text that she came down with a cough and sore throat last week. Anytime I hear stuff like that, my first thought is rona, esp hearing it’s going around again

[aussenseiter]

lawl you linked an article you didn't even read. Botten self owned himself so badly

Your attempts at damage control not going according to plan

Hilarious

Same pollster has probably worked for Mr Tromp in the past. I think they do it by contract.

[Elizondo]

Same pollster has probably worked for Mr Tromp in the past. I think they do it by contract.

400 people polled by a polling company being paid by the campaign

Yea seems legit

[unsunghero]

This kind of shit is so fucking stupid

I can’t believe we live in such a privileged little cushion that we have actually forgotten there ARE things worth hating in life. Many things

I hate serial killers and rapists. And the Dutch. Jk. But saying let’s “end all hate” is the same never ending fairytale bullshit

Yea, yea Jesus forgave the worst sinners. Well, he’s not me. I’ll send them to him and let him do his thing

[Lune]

You have cancer, bro. Also, you have no kids. You should be more worried those two things, dumbass. No sense in worrying about the future when you have no stake in it.

Kids don't de facto give you a stake in the future. Someone who thinks their kids are 'them' clearly hasn't learned that we are just vessels for DNA that have gained self-awareness and uncovered the scam. The only way to have a stake in the future is to care about the future, you don't need kids for that, and as we've learned with environmental protection laws, there are plenty of people with kids who don't give a fuck about the world they leave behind for them. Also, hateful cunts shouldn't be parents.

[aussenseiter]

400 people polled by a polling company being paid by the campaign

Yea seems legit

A sample size of 400 will give you a confidence interval of +/-5% 19 times out of 20 (95%) (https://stats.stackexchange.com/questions/166/how-do-you-decide-the-sample-size-when-polling-a-large-population)

[unsunghero]

Kids don't de facto give you a stake in the future. Someone who thinks their kids are 'them' clearly hasn't learned that we are just vessels for DNA that have gained self-awareness and uncovered the scam. The only way to have a stake in the future is to care about the future, and you don't need kids for that. Also, hateful cunts shouldn't be parents.

Your ancestors risked their lives and sometimes went through hell to try to have their DNA continue through time, and your choice to throw that all away and end your family line out of convenience is disrespectful

— Andrew Tate (paraphrasing)

I found it interesting

[Lune]

Your ancestors risked their lives and sometimes went through hell to try to have their DNA continue through time, and your choice to throw that all away and end your family line out of convenience is disrespectful

— Andrew Tate (paraphrasing)

I found it interesting

I find it to be an incredibly stupid and solipsist outlook. My ancestors risked their lives and sometimes went through hell to survive, and to fuck. If handed condoms and birth control and shit, they would have hedonistically fucked themselves extinct just like we are today.

Continuing your family line literally doesn't fucking matter. I won't be there to see it, and the world doesn't need anymore people. If you want to have kids, cool. If not, also cool.

[Ripp]

In other news I am kinda excited to read this :)

President Joe Biden says he will request more funding for a new coronavirus vaccine (https://www.msn.com/he-il/news/other/president-joe-biden-says-he-will-request-more-funding-for-a-new-coronavirus-vaccine/ar-AA1fN6PA)

Even if it is only $9 billion.

Good, good. Make sure you take all the boosters too! You don't want to die, do you?!


https://media.giphy.com/media/3ov9jLuFbuXfLBIbDi/giphy.gif

[unsunghero]

I find it to be an incredibly stupid and solipsist outlook. My ancestors risked their lives and sometimes went through hell to survive, and to fuck. If handed condoms and birth control and shit, they would have hedonistically fucked themselves extinct just like we are today.

Continuing your family line literally doesn't fucking matter. I won't be there to see it, and the world doesn't need anymore people. If you want to have kids, cool. If not, also cool.

Oh no it’s not enough to make me want them either ;)

But I do think historically there was much more of an emphasis on continuing the family, especially considering culturally (some probably put much more weight on it than others)

[unsunghero]

I mean, if we could find every ancestor of mine, back to the beginning, and ask them how they feel about me choosing to end their line of DNA, I guarantee a few would be disappointed

[Origen]

Yeah, I just constantly only criticize one side but that totally means I don't support the other side!

These damn reactionaries on the right who are the only people I ever criticize are so partisan! :DHave you ever considered the fact that the way conservatives here criticize democrats is stupid?

[Origen]

Your ancestors risked their lives and sometimes went through hell to try to have their DNA continue through time, and your choice to throw that all away and end your family line out of convenience is disrespectful

— Andrew Tate (paraphrasing)

I found it interestingYou're too old to find anything Andrew Tate says interesting

[Lune]

Well luckily my sisters have kids so family = continued -ish

Come to think of it my wife's line is ending completely... only child, and she has a few actual geniuses in her family so that sucks for the next generation. No wonder millennials feel so doomed and depressed lol, we're turning into Japan. Thanarchy

[unsunghero]

You're too old to find anything Andrew Tate says interesting

What I would say to any of my ancestors disappointed that their family line dies with me (I am an only child) is to say no matter how long humans live, we are still just a flash in the pan in the time the universe has been around

[Elizondo]

A sample size of 400 will give you a confidence interval of +/-5% 19 times out of 20 (95%) (https://stats.stackexchange.com/questions/166/how-do-you-decide-the-sample-size-when-polling-a-large-population)

uh huh

and the campaign funding the poll reduces that 'confidence level' by 95%

[aussenseiter]

uh huh

and the campaign funding the poll reduces that 'confidence level' by 95%

Yes, well, you said two things. :)

[Botten]

How potent are these new strains?

It seems they have been getting weaker lately

Still waiting for my 7+ paid days off work when I catch ‘em. Had a gal friend recently text that she came down with a cough and sore throat last week. Anytime I hear stuff like that, my first thought is rona, esp hearing it’s going around again

Think Omicron but still worrisome for 70+ and immunocompromised.

At a population of 350 million I am glad my business may get the chance of taking $25 out of EZ’s pocket!

http://www.indiepundit.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/08/stewie-wheres-my-money.jpg

[aussenseiter]

This kind of shit is so fucking stupid

I can’t believe we live in such a privileged little cushion that we have actually forgotten there ARE things worth hating in life. Many things

I hate serial killers and rapists. And the Dutch. Jk. But saying let’s “end all hate” is the same never ending fairytale bullshit

Yea, yea Jesus forgave the worst sinners. Well, he’s not me. I’ll send them to him and let him do his thing

https://www.project1999.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=22841&stc=1&thumb=1&d=1693093263

Steve Sarkisian has failed upwards his entire time coaching and now he's been given Peyton Manning's kid or whatever. I'm convinced he's a made man.

[Landroval]

Kids don't de facto give you a stake in the future. Someone who thinks their kids are 'them' clearly hasn't learned that we are just vessels for DNA that have gained self-awareness and uncovered the scam. The only way to have a stake in the future is to care about the future, you don't need kids for that, and as we've learned with environmental protection laws, there are plenty of people with kids who don't give a fuck about the world they leave behind for them. Also, hateful cunts shouldn't be parents.

Wahwahwahwah charlie browns teacher. You didn't need to type a whole paragraph, btw. I stopped reading your boring drivel halfway through the first run-on sentence

[unsunghero]

Think Omicron but still worrisome for 70+ and immunocompromised.

At a population of 350 million I am glad my business may get the chance of taking $25 out of EZ’s pocket!

http://www.indiepundit.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/08/stewie-wheres-my-money.jpg

One positive is I don’t think that stuff can survive beyond seconds on outside surfaces during the day where I live

Buuuut we did get wrecked by earlier versions in the summer, and I guess maybe because people convened more inside so I dunno

[Origen]

What I would say to any of my ancestors disappointed that their family line dies with me (I am an only child) is to say no matter how long humans live, we are still just a flash in the pan in the time the universe has been aroundHell yeah to positive acknowledgement of our brief existence.

uD4izuDMUQA

[aussenseiter]

Hell yeah to positive acknowledgement of our brief existence.

uD4izuDMUQA

Dang ole youtube inflicting depression on viewers for ad clicks.

FAUCI!?

[Crepido]

Origen hates his own life because his white family wasn't able to build anything for him to inherit.

And is unable to be a productive member of society. It's easier to blame other people for not succeeding personally.

Crepido the lurker over and out.

[Trexller]

Origen hates his own life because his white family wasn't able to build anything for him to inherit.

And is unable to be a productive member of society. It's easier to blame other people for not succeeding personally.

Crepido the lurker over and out.

Lurker Burn

[magnetaress]

Dang ole youtube inflicting depression on viewers for ad clicks.

FAUCI!?

lol they say a maximum state of entropy butt in reality its exactly the opposite

it's a maximum state of order :p

i don't think these science kids understand philosophy or logic.

Annnnddddd the only take away is we know very little and our human life times are pretty damn special and unique in a big sea of "nothingness" obviously its not nothing because there is constant energy in the vacuum and outside this expanding universe is an entirely different frame of reference at a nother level we can't observe in scope so just because we don't see that doesn't mean there is nothing out there and that we aren't moving towards it.

Ppl need to find spirituality before they seek immortality via science

[Landroval]

lol they say a maximum state of entropy butt in reality its exactly the opposite

it's a maximum state of order :p

i don't think these science kids understand philosophy or logic.

Annnnddddd the only take away is we know very little and our human life times are pretty damn special and unique in a big sea of "nothingness" obviously its not nothing because there is constant energy in the vacuum and outside this expanding universe is an entirely different frame of reference at a nother level we can't observe in scope so just because we don't see that doesn't mean there is nothing out there and that we aren't moving towards it.

Ppl need to find spirituality before they seek immortality via science

Placing a life in the perspective of its brevity in the scope of the universe is folly.
Time doesn't really exist in the perspective universe, itself; it's more of an emergent property of matter; a form of energy emitted by matter in reciprocation and transformation of em energy titrating with (bombarding) matter.

And the the matter comprehendeth it not.

[magnetaress]

i'm with g-d on he remakes this thing over and over and all the rest of what we think we know and feel and understand is just holography ---

we are looking at the projection of what g-d made

[Landroval]

i'm with g-d on he remakes this thing over and over and all the rest of what we think we know and feel and understand is just holography ---

we are looking at the projection of what g-d made

Ultimately, yes. But the Logos (Ennoia; Thought) of the God-mind (Nous) is what gives reality it's fundamental "objective" structure (which is ultimately subjective to the Logos, itself).

[Botten]

Origen hates his own life because his white family wasn't able to build anything for him to inherit.

And is unable to be a productive member of society. It's easier to blame other people for not succeeding personally.

Crepido the lurker over and out.

There was a post where one of Horza's alts was answering a statement Crepido made.

It was Elizondo who answered in response to Horza's retort to Crepido say "I personally could care less about Fox News or the lawsuit. I don't watch cable news."

https://www.project1999.com/forums/showpost.php?p=3605092&postcount=1241

How much of low seated lurker are you?

[Elizondo]

There was a post where one of Horza's alts was answering a statement Crepido made.

It was Elizondo who answered in response to Horza's retort to Crepido say "I personally could care less about Fox News or the lawsuit. I don't watch cable news."

https://www.project1999.com/forums/showpost.php?p=3605092&postcount=1241

How much of low seated lurker are you?

What are you implying

[Origen]

Looks like I triggered some salty lurker and/or someone's alt account, hell yeah

[Botten]

What are you implying

Oh only you and him constantly make it as close as possible without going over.

22859

So convenient.

[Sadre Spinegnawer]

Poor EZ

They do not work for DeSantis and further more there accuracy has already been looked into.

https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/pollster-ratings/public-opinion-strategies/

Based on the historical accuracy and methodology of each polling organization’s polls.
Public Opinion Strategies
Also known as NMB Research

Rating: B+

VIGO The Carpathian is losing

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Climb the ladder America.

https://i.imgur.com/A0Zxduh.jpg

[Sadre Spinegnawer]

lol they say a maximum state of entropy butt in reality its exactly the opposite

it's a maximum state of order :p

i don't think these science kids understand philosophy or logic.

Annnnddddd the only take away is we know very little and our human life times are pretty damn special and unique in a big sea of "nothingness" obviously its not nothing because there is constant energy in the vacuum and outside this expanding universe is an entirely different frame of reference at a nother level we can't observe in scope so just because we don't see that doesn't mean there is nothing out there and that we aren't moving towards it.

Ppl need to find spirituality before they seek immortality via science

If this is how things are:

https://www.researchgate.net/publication/239857196/figure/fig1/AS:360501361037312@1462961630385/the-Necker-cube-a-bistable-visual-illusion-First-published-in-1832-by-louis-albert.png

Any instability is relative to the viewer.

[Elizondo]

Oh only you and him constantly make it as close as possible without going over.

So convenient.

The only poster here that uses an alt account consistently is Rob

Or maybe it's you

Maybe you both coordinated the exchange to try and drum up sympathy for him

Just as plausible an explanation

[aussenseiter]

The only poster here that uses an alt account consistently is Rob

Or maybe it's you

Maybe you both coordinated the exchange to try and drum up sympathy for him

Just as plausible an explanation

Progers likes racecars.

[Origen]

The only poster here that uses an alt account consistently is Rob

Or maybe it's you

Maybe you both coordinated the exchange to try and drum up sympathy for him

Just as plausible an explanationAlternative suggestion: you need better hobbies and have brainworms

[aussenseiter]

Justin Jones Slams 'Asinine Governor' Ron DeSantis (https://news.yahoo.com/justin-jones-slams-asinine-governor-060125395.html)

[Elizondo]

rMM2042bLzQ

[unsunghero]

So sad, my heart goes out to them

The thieves, that is

[Lune]

Placing a life in the perspective of its brevity in the scope of the universe is folly.
Time doesn't really exist in the perspective universe, itself; it's more of an emergent property of matter; a form of energy emitted by matter in reciprocation and transformation of em energy titrating with (bombarding) matter.

And the the matter comprehendeth it not.

I've worked with stroke patients with Wernicke's aphasia that produced less word salad than this

[unsunghero]

For Botten:

Dude with swastikas on his AR walks into a dollar general and kills 3 black people, domes himself afterward (silver lining)

Has all these manifestos which hopefully never see the light of day (but probably will to inspire more copycats! Yay) on his computer

[magnetaress]

For Botten:

Dude with swastikas on his AR walks into a dollar general and kills 3 black people, domes himself afterward (silver lining)

Has all these manifestos which hopefully never see the light of day (but probably will to inspire more copycats! Yay) on his computer

If permanent government camps existed these kinds of things would be less of a problem !

:o

Dude is *(was) clearly mentally ill. And an asshole - they are one and the same, you do not have a right to be an asshole and shouldn't have a right to be an asshole because it hurts everyone around you. Including urself! *(another edit!)

Same with not having a right to be a dirty fuck.

Unclean assholish mentally ill dirty fucks are not contributing the the glory that is G-d! Hope this helps! *(best edit!)

G-d bless!

[magnetaress]

I've worked with stroke patients with Wernicke's aphasia that produced less word salad than this

to be fair it really wasn't that bad all he or she had to say was

"arrow of time bruhs" gg

g-d bless!

[magnetaress]

If this is how things are:

https://www.researchgate.net/publication/239857196/figure/fig1/AS:360501361037312@1462961630385/the-Necker-cube-a-bistable-visual-illusion-First-published-in-1832-by-louis-albert.png

Any instability is relative to the viewer.

The reality is that data is 2 dimensional in nature so what 3 dimension beings do with that data can be silly when they don't simply realize its jost a graph of points in a 2d plane forming several polygons! <3

[aussenseiter]

It's a day ending in Y and Vivek said something stupid
(https://www.politico.com/news/2023/08/27/ramaswamy-pressley-modern-kkk-00113122)
“What I would have said is, this is a moment for a true national consensus where there’s two elements of what’s required for a functioning democracy in America. One is secure elections, and the second is a peaceful transfer of power. When those things come into conflict, that’s an opportunity for heroism. Here’s what I would have said, we need single-day voting on Election Day. We need paper ballots, and we need government-issued ID matching the voter file. And if we achieve that, then we have achieved victory, and we should not have any further complaint about election integrity,” Ramaswamy said.

[Landroval]

I've worked with stroke patients with Wernicke's aphasia that produced less word salad than this

That's because you're retarded. What we refer to as "time passage" only occurs based upon proximity to massive objects. The more massive, the more "time" to experience there is. In the remotest regions of space, very little time passage occurs while we scurry around like ants experiencing entire lives in moments, comparatively, as time itself is a rate of change.

[Lune]

That's because you're retarded. What we refer to as "time passage" only occurs based upon proximity to massive objects. The more massive, the more "time" to experience there is. In the remotest regions of space, very little time passage occurs while we scurry around like ants experiencing entire lives in moments, comparatively, as time itself is a rate of change.

I was talking about the misused words. Trust me, I understand your false bullshit.

Putting the cosmological constant in terms of planck units (that is, in terms of all-encompassing physical constants) is suspiciously equal to the reciprocal of the age of the universe squared. Time is thus a fundamental quality of the fabric of reality, because even an empty vacuum is 'inflating' as a function of time.

[unsunghero]

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=TXPC2HXjrYU

[aussenseiter]

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=TXPC2HXjrYU

The males will become aggressive if you interrupt their internet nerd mating ritual.

[Origen]

So sad, my heart goes out to them

The thieves, that isWe really need a gentleman's agreement amongst shoplifters to only target large chain and big box stores

Biden has dropped the ball on this one

[TheBardo]

Elizondo I want to know what you think about magnets! How do they work? Are they real? This is important

[magnetaress]

It's a day ending in Y and Vivek said something stupid
(https://www.politico.com/news/2023/08/27/ramaswamy-pressley-modern-kkk-00113122)

Ramaswamy

i actually like him --- even tho i dont' totally align with them like u know u can like someone without aligning 100% with all of their views he's pretty cool dude tho i'm guessin, until they get in their and scoop out his brain like they did everyone else who got close to holding power and office in this countrary

[magnetaress]

so if a county fucks up an election it really shouldn't matter

what we have here is the republicans butt hurt because of their believes that county voted red instead of blue and that county is butt hurt because they should be allowed to fuck up

that is representative democracy in action and ppl who are butthurt over this are retards

now the real kicker and this is what is going to sink the idiots is the ELECTORAL voters going against state law or rules or whatever and i think that is where the real meat and potatos because i'm not sure that is a jurisdiction where the electors can vote whatever they want or ppl can appoint themselves as electors like it depends on how the county swings who gets to be an elector in that jurisdiction so if your an elector for the other side u can't just go against the vote, right wrong or indifferent of that county

-----

and here is the super sad truth if you suck so bad you can't win a vote with a few hanging chads and bad counties u fucking suck, go get another job we don't need u in office

[magnetaress]

I think the other issue here is federalism because it used to be local counties really didn't have much bearing on federal policy because the federal gubbumunt was like tied up and told it could only feed and train soldiya bois and send spies and shit now the federal gubb is in every fucking jurisdiction like it owns the place and that is a major problem with HOW we do the votings and electorate because the two don't jive when one state is a retard state it hurts the whole

so there definately needs to be some change there, I vote for the CCP obviously, no rights for anyone including states

[Landroval]

I was talking about the misused words. Trust me, I understand your false bullshit.

Putting the cosmological constant in terms of planck units (that is, in terms of all-encompassing physical constants) is suspiciously equal to the reciprocal of the age of the universe squared. Time is thus a fundamental quality of the fabric of reality, because even an empty vacuum is 'inflating' as a function of time.

Time doesn't exist to the photon, nor does "distance". That sure is a nice fundamental quality you got there, mind if I just disregard it entirely?

T. Photon

[Botten]

Biden Administration has my vote!

As we know the Supreme Court struck down the Biden Harris administration student loan forgiveness plan. It was a bad ruling but unsurprising given the current makeup of the Supreme Court.

Pause on student loan repayments is ending on September 1st and will be due in October.

However, in response to the ruling and to help borrowers, the Biden Harris administration is launching the SAVE plan, which is the most affordable student loan repayment plan ever!

This plan does a lot of Great Stuff!

-It cuts in half the percentage that borrowers have to pay each month
-It forgives all loans after 10 years, Not 20
-Low income borrowers may only have to pay as little as $0 per month under this plan.

That's a pretty big deal.

-It also stops interest that leaves borrowers owing more than their initial loan.

This is is really a glimmer of hope that more of our younger generation will continue to get educated. Education has already yielded so many positive benefits politically.

https://studentaid.gov/manage-loans/forgiveness-cancellation/debt-relief-info

Student loans should not be a barrier to an education.

[aussenseiter]

Biden Administration has my vote!

As we know the Supreme Court struck down the Biden Harris administration student loan forgiveness plan. It was a bad ruling but unsurprising given the current makeup of the Supreme Court.

Pause on student loan repayments is ending on September 1st and will be due in October.

However, in response to the ruling and to help borrowers, the Biden Harris administration is launching the SAVE plan, which is the most affordable student loan repayment plan ever!

This plan does a lot of Great Stuff!

-It cuts in half the percentage that borrowers have to pay each month
-It forgives all loans after 10 years, Not 20
-Low income borrowers may only have to pay as little as $0 per month under this plan.

That's a pretty big deal.

-It also stops interest that leaves borrowers owing more than their initial loan.

This is is really a glimmer of hope that more of our younger generation will continue to get educated. Education has already yielded so many positive benefits politically.

https://studentaid.gov/manage-loans/forgiveness-cancellation/debt-relief-info

Student loans should not be a barrier to an education.

https://i.kym-cdn.com/entries/icons/original/000/034/084/cover6.jpg

[Botten]

https://i.kym-cdn.com/entries/icons/original/000/034/084/cover6.jpg

I know

[aussenseiter]

I know

I think forgiving failed matriculants is the part I approve of.

Other than that... (https://www.ojp.gov/pdffiles1/Digitization/139583NCJRS.pdf)

[Evia]

All Botten posts read like a giant advertisement for corporations and the government elite.

It can't just be me who picks up on that? Hopefully someone's paying him for it.

[Sadre Spinegnawer]

The reality is that data is 2 dimensional in nature so what 3 dimension beings do with that data can be silly when they don't simply realize its jost a graph of points in a 2d plane forming several polygons! <3

See, now we're talking geometry. But, to speak rationally, the 2d has some kind of relationship with the 3d or else how could they interact?

If the 2d construct of thinking made of words is a totally distinct universe from 3d beings such as ourselves, there would be no interaction at all. So there must be some manner or means or medium of interaction.

That would be time. We inhabit words, and words inhabit us. Or not! Time is the great Distributor Cap of life.

[edit: after all the instability of the Necker cube only appears *given* time.]

[unsunghero]

-Low income borrowers may only have to pay as little as $0 per month under this plan.



The downside to these is that I’ve seen for social support programs cause people to willingly choose to remain unemployed rather than look for work so as to not lose their benefits

The alternative would be to be possibly giving rich students money they don’t need

So I don’t know of a better one, but both seem to have downsides

[Toxigen]

is we getting stimmy

[Sadre Spinegnawer]

All Botten posts read like a giant advertisement for corporations and the government elite.

You have a negative mind. You are not on point. I view things through the True North Star of the global order, the 7th Fleet. Status, Commander?
https://i.imgur.com/BDOf9W3.jpg

Yeah. See, it's not what you think it is. I'm sorry you do not share in the sweet cheer of victory. The unipolar world is been bery, bery good to me. And the Aussies. And the Brits. And Europe. West, and East. The Levant is a mixed bag. Japan and S korean crazy people, gtg!

Fins and Swedes sharpening their ice skates brah. And you nursing some weird laments about not getting enough pie? GTFO.

[aussenseiter]

You have a negative mind. You are not on point. I view things through the True North Star of the global order, the 7th Fleet. Status, Commander?
https://i.imgur.com/BDOf9W3.jpg

Yeah. See, it's not what you think it is. I'm sorry you do not share in the sweet cheer of victory. The unipolar world is been bery, bery good to me. And the Aussies. And the Brits. And Europe. West, and East. The Levant is a mixed bag. Japan and S korean crazy people, gtg!

Fins and Swedes sharpening their ice skates brah. And you nursing some weird laments about not getting enough pie? GTFO.

Asymmetry implies Phalanx and sons can't keep the swarm at bay forever.

Fix your clock. The time is right now.

[Botten]

is we getting stimmy

Nah just future democrats. ;)

[magnetaress]

See, now we're talking geometry. But, to speak rationally, the 2d has some kind of relationship with the 3d or else how could they interact?

If the 2d construct of thinking made of words is a totally distinct universe from 3d beings such as ourselves, there would be no interaction at all. So there must be some manner or means or medium of interaction.

That would be time. We inhabit words, and words inhabit us. Or not! Time is the great Distributor Cap of life.

[edit: after all the instability of the Necker cube only appears *given* time.]

well 2d beings in that picture wouldn't see what we see :p they would just see a big ass black line all around in every direction they rotated O.o :cool:

so ya

i grok ya a little

that picture can't exist without a 3rd world dimension !

[magnetaress]

Biden Administration has my vote!

As we know the Supreme Court struck down the Biden Harris administration student loan forgiveness plan. It was a bad ruling but unsurprising given the current makeup of the Supreme Court.

Pause on student loan repayments is ending on September 1st and will be due in October.

However, in response to the ruling and to help borrowers, the Biden Harris administration is launching the SAVE plan, which is the most affordable student loan repayment plan ever!

This plan does a lot of Great Stuff!

-It cuts in half the percentage that borrowers have to pay each month
-It forgives all loans after 10 years, Not 20
-Low income borrowers may only have to pay as little as $0 per month under this plan.

That's a pretty big deal.

-It also stops interest that leaves borrowers owing more than their initial loan.

This is is really a glimmer of hope that more of our younger generation will continue to get educated. Education has already yielded so many positive benefits politically.

https://studentaid.gov/manage-loans/forgiveness-cancellation/debt-relief-info

Student loans should not be a barrier to an education.

its kind and nice of you to want to provide opportunities to ppl but u have to be able to afford to do that first ! and right now

we have more stuff to afford like integrity and honesty ! in our politicians and less corruption b4 we try giving free educational opportunities to ppl who may or may not want them !

ppl who worked hard for their education and using it GOOD for them i'm sorry they had to get into so much debt because every university is so corrupt !

however ---- and here's the big however smart ppl have to realize a lot of ppl just need a simple life and trying to educate them is folly because you are trying to do it against their will *** BIG EDIT*** (AND ABILITY) and unless u want death camps u can't weed the crop and throw away the undecuable ppl who don't want ur free charity education !

your ideals are noble, they aren't pragmatic !

now i'm not saying that the whole student loan thing needs to change its just a lot deepr tthan "loan forgiveness" or socialized universities !

As a soldier u gotta want to ascend the ranks and do the work to learn how to take a part a jeep and put it back together if u want to become in charge of the motorpool, then u gotta do that sum before u get ur jeep badge ! such is life !

i think there is a great disconnect and JIVE from what we are promised as children and what reality is ! because the guys running apple store want to keep the cash flow comin thru them instead of going to building farming communes for the ppl who need some nature time with christ ! ! ! (so uhm p.s. a lot of degrees are useless 2 and don't even actually improve happiness we'd be better off with mental hospitals where we brianwash ppl into how to be happy or ELSE) instead of universities in this case, not saying that the classics aren't a good read or that ppl shoudn't be alowed to amass their libraries and reads ! just that its not entirely usefull to the majority of broke ass ppl

[magnetaress]

ok new post because i dont want to edit the previous one again

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i got fed a lot of bullshit in my life of oooohhh if u just work hard and bust ur ass off and get a degree (lets say nursing ! ) or something else like "business logistics" or whatever cool shit ppl come up with these days --- YOU WILL GET A NICE JOB AND BE happy

well here's the thing

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you have to be able to do all that and be smart enough to do all that

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not to mention it is a lie because it would have been more cheaper to just run a donut stand and sell fresh made donuts and specialize in that and save the money from that by living a v simple life

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and thats not to say that nursing isnt able to be a v fulfilling life or job buttttttttttttttttt it's not going to make a depressed dysophoric schizo happy or they aren't going to be able to do it and let me tell u a lot more of u fall into the latter category of the schizoid person who should be gardening and making sandwitches under supervision for other prisoners

so degrees smheeees they are useless to a lot of ppl who otherwise could live happy lives if they where able to just hang around their sheds brewing beer from the local wheat field down the way and selling at the local pubs without the federal and state government getting in there and trying to regulate them and check their beer brew tempatures

(cheese making is a good one 2 because u don't have the be a fucking genious to make chese, u just gotta be able to remember a process and do it repeatedly for the rest of ur life)

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our society doesn't value these crafts tho

they value industrial processses and sheer volume of beer an FAKE cheese that isn't even cultured anymore (same with bread !) we could learn a lot from the japanese on this one !


anyway a lot of things require PHDs and doctorates that shouldn't in this country !!!! or certifications etc... a lot of things u should be able to just do and be apprenticed and have a guild that makes sure ppl are doing shit right but keep them local

the problem is we are nationaleized and then globalized with the cheese things

[magnetaress]

and here's the thing 2

when i was in the army and we did have a class every now and then the instructurees where always like 'omg ur the fucking best at this' because i am good in that environment butt i am also terrible at:

TEST taking
and writing theseses

and doing the science and shit like i'm clever enough to learn by doing but not good at the actual scholarly shit and transmitting that knowledge down on the line so other ppl can be great network engineers that understand binary shits

what i am good at is teaching ppl directly 1 on 1 or in small grps what i know by showing them how i do it and what my simpliefied and efficient processeeesss are

so u wouldn't have like degrees if u could distill reformating computers into 'heres a cd, this is the source, this is the 1 single page document with your five steps, and a short why' and how to reformat pcs that have been infected with virus's with a default load out already patched up ready to go on the network --- the image takes about 15 minutes per pc to install oh btw u hve 800 computers to fix today ! (i think this oone earned me browny points ) but it looks retarded as shit the way i just typed it out

butt degree worthy??? it is not ! it is just straight up street knowledge because of warez and linux usage

[Horza]

Origen hates his own life because his white family wasn't able to build anything for him to inherit.

And is unable to be a productive member of society. It's easier to blame other people for not succeeding personally.

Crepido the lurker over and out.

Too scared to post about anti-white blah blah blah on your main account?

[aussenseiter]

Lutherism bad (https://crisismagazine.com/opinion/the-protestant-doctrine-that-gave-us-pro-trans-churches)

[Botten]

Lutherism bad (https://crisismagazine.com/opinion/the-protestant-doctrine-that-gave-us-pro-trans-churches)

I believe the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints can be characterized as henotheistic.

Henotheists believe in a He, a She and more.

Too bad Greeks were before Christ; they coined some good phrases.

Don't matter thou it is all a load of hooey to good old Karma. :D

[unsunghero]

Don't matter thou it is all a load of hooey to good old Karma. :D

I see some examples of karma in this life but many more examples of it not happening when it should :(

[Botten]

Look at how devastating this schedule is going to be in terms of politics, campaigning, money, narrative control, etc.:

03/04/2024 (188) - Scheduled start of trial. (DC)

03/04/2024 (188) - Proposed: start of trial. (GA)

03/05/2024 (189) - Super Tuesday (2024)

03/12/2024 (196) - Final primaries (2024)

03/25/2024 (209) - Scheduled start of trial. (NY)

04/15/2024 (230) - Potential: end of trial if it lasts 4 to 6 weeks as per DOJ estimate. (DC)

05/14/2024 (259) - Scheduled pretrial hearing. (DOC)

05/20/2024 (265) - Scheduled start of trial. (DOC)


Beautiful Karma or planned, lol, no it is Karma.

Is the opposite of a wave a whirlpool?

[magnetaress]

I gave my psychologist a sermon the other day I don't think it was a good one tho !

[aussenseiter]

03/12/2024 (196) - Final primaries (2024)

:confused:

[Sadre Spinegnawer]

Asymmetry implies Phalanx and sons can't keep the swarm at bay forever.

Fix your clock. The time is right now.

You know the size of drone swarms we already can deploy if we enter green or brown water range? Thousands in the air. None of them touching each other.

Why do I doubt the USN, with how many trillions sunk into a global network of sea lane control bases and ships, is not all over this?

The fates of the Moscova and so many other hapless garbage scows in the Ukraine conflict is a valuable learning experience. The entire war is. That is part of its entire rationale. Whatever new tech can do, it will do, and the West will learn and use and counter it.

For pennies on the dollar, compared to what this is costing Russia. And Ukraine, well they are alright peeps. This one will go in the record books, and the law about reductio ad Hitlerum will have a new stablemate.

[aussenseiter]

You know the size of drone swarms we already can deploy if we enter green or brown water range? Thousands in the air. None of them touching each other.

Why do I doubt the USN, with how many trillions sunk into a global network of sea lane control bases and ships, is not all over this?

The fates of the Moscova and so many other hapless garbage scows in the Ukraine conflict is a valuable learning experience. The entire war is. That is part of its entire rationale. Whatever new tech can do, it will do, and the West will learn and use and counter it.

For pennies on the dollar, compared to what this is costing Russia. And Ukraine, well they are alright peeps. This one will go in the record books, and the law about reductio ad Hitlerum will have a new stablemate.

They haven't got much of a Navy and our drones are much more expensive than their drones.

[Sadre Spinegnawer]

I gave my psychologist a sermon the other day I don't think it was a good one tho !

Psychologist? That's for normal people who need some help figuring out how not to suck at life.

Unless your issue is histrionic personality disorder and that's it, your post history suggests you need a psychiatrist.

A psychologist can do valuable things about running a balanced life, that is what they are great at. But if you need some work done, some dangerous work, you need
https://i.imgur.com/KQugyOA.jpg

Never use a hospital/clinic p-doc. Only private practice.

Keep in mind, I am not sure p-docs can do much for you except slow you down if you fried your circuits w/ bad drugs. Endogenic mental illness is cake compared to exogenic mental damage. P-doc can at most stabilize you for the rest of your life.

Ask about chemical castration or getting a hysterectomy if you think yer issues are related to that business. Lots of people walking around unhappy could be a lot happier if they just cut their balls off. But you can do it chemically and its reversible, they say.

[Botten]

:confused:

March of 2024 will have some good announcements.
Day by day announcement.

Raffensperger has set Georgia's presidential preference primary for March 12, 2024

Some could say it is free bad press but we all saw what free bad press around Hilary's E-mails did.

[Sadre Spinegnawer]

What is Georgia even like these days? Didn't they almost think Hershel Walker was a wise choice for leadership in these times? I know every elected politician is always laden with state and party professionals who do the actual work, but jeez. Does it have to be so obvious, and we gotta pretend?

[Origen]

It's hot. Sticky. Entirely too much emphasis on college sports. The Braves are doing pretty good. Churches are ridiculous on Sundays. Chik-fil-A could basically run for president. Tennis skirts as everyday clothes are in this summer.

[Origen]

Oh and right now everyone from west Florida is here.

[Landroval]

Oh and right now everyone from west Florida is here.

Isn't that where all the toothless swampy bayou people live? West Florida? Best gets to seasoning dey food.

[aussenseiter]

What is Georgia even like these days? Didn't they almost think Hershel Walker was a wise choice for leadership in these times? I know every elected politician is always laden with state and party professionals who do the actual work, but jeez. Does it have to be so obvious, and we gotta pretend?

They're doing voter suppression I think. (https://www.rpc.senate.gov/policy-papers/myth-v-fact-georgias-election-integrity-act)

[Origen]

No, we're saving America

Again

you're welcome

[Sadre Spinegnawer]

It's hot. Sticky. Entirely too much emphasis on college sports. The Braves are doing pretty good. Churches are ridiculous on Sundays. Chik-fil-A could basically run for president. Tennis skirts as everyday clothes are in this summer.

Emory is alright. "The Ivy of the South" they call it. I always say that works. Leaves my meaning ambiguous.

Yeah. College sports and southern universities. Which came first? Which really matters to anyone in the state?

Greater Atlanta area is so cute. We don't have race problems, not us! What the locals call MARTA suggests otherwise.

Man, but lots of cities piss me off. NYC is harmless to me, so in my outlook, it's pretty hard to say at the same time "I am sane" and "I am pissed off at NYC" -- you either learn to deal or you leave that little hive.

Too pricey. I left decades ago. People who get involved with big money baffle me. I always have in the back of my mind, on such questions, "Well, you can always go live in Appalachia for pennies on the dollar."

Lots of cheep cool ciites. And, they aren't crowded b/c reasons. I bring the fun, is my outlook. So wherever I live is usually party central.

[aussenseiter]

No, we're saving America

Again

you're welcome

https://i.imgur.com/x0GUXF7.png