It's official: Riot is done.

[condap99]

The era of complete and total Vanquish dominance has begun.

Riot is absolutely a dead guild. Put a fork in em.

[greasemonk]

This mother fucker needs Jesus.

[Ennewi]

Some of you nerds take this game and yourselves way too seriously.

[Nocht]

Everquest was a mistake.

[Trexller]

Everquest was a mistake.

[Tunabros]

Everquest was a mistake.

[starkind]

everquest was a stepping stone

[Fammaden]

Grats Riot! Must be nice to go out on top.

[Terrok]

Wait, the point of this game is to make people quit and break up a group of friends. man have I been playing it all wrong. Gratz on your lifers greatest achievement. though I'm sure someone else did all the work and you are just riding on their coattails. Surprised you don't just play on red, where at 60 you can beat up on level 1's at their spawn point.

[Terrok]

Next you are going to move out of your moms basement...

[Kohedron]

I am touching myself to the excitement of drama in a 70 year old video game.

[Twochain]

Wait, the point of this game is to make people quit and break up a group of friends. man have I been playing it all wrong. Gratz on your lifers greatest achievement. though I'm sure someone else did all the work and you are just riding on their coattails. Surprised you don't just play on red, where at 60 you can beat up on level 1's at their spawn point.

While I certainly don't want to raid on a 1 guild server....

Riot was formed to kill aftermath. It was the rallying call throughout it's discord until AM was gone. YoU'rE BeInG SeRvEd HuMBlE PiE HoW DoeS It TaStE AM??

So let's not pretend.

Also while we're on our moral high ground, all Riot had to do was let Detoxx app. Like just apply to the guild. Didn't even have to take him in, just APPLY so he could play with his group of friends who joined Riot. And they would still be happily killing every single dragon for free, uncontested, without bag limits.

[xdrcfrx]

While I certainly don't want to raid on a 1 guild server....

Riot was formed to kill aftermath. It was the rallying call throughout it's discord until AM was gone. YoU'rE BeInG SeRvEd HuMBlE PiE HoW DoeS It TaStE AM??

So let's not pretend.

Also while we're on our moral high ground, all Riot had to do was let Detoxx app. Like just apply to the guild. Didn't even have to take him in, just APPLY so he could play with his group of friends who joined Riot. And they would still be happily killing every single dragon for free, uncontested, without bag limits.

do all the AG people that were contesting riot week in and week out not resent being constantly told that they might as hell have not even existed?

[Allishia]

I dunno about all this, I'm still getting to tank dragons and giants on the regular, we are definitely not done :p

[Twochain]

do all the AG people that were contesting riot week in and week out not resent being constantly told that they might as hell have not even existed?

AG was a lot more casual at the time. I actually have asked about this period a bunch because I didn't play much during that span, but the general consensus is, that AG would compete for Vulak, get trained by Riot almost weekly if they competed, they would "offer a rez", and Riot would kill Vulak. That was a big thing that former AG members kept complaining about when the whole Klaz train happened, they felt like that kind of thing happened week in and week out at Vulak, and all they were ever offered was a rez, never a concession.

[Argh]

Legends never die

[myrddraal]

AG was a lot more casual at the time. I actually have asked about this period a bunch because I didn't play much during that span, but the general consensus is, that AG would compete for Vulak, get trained by Riot almost weekly if they competed, they would "offer a rez", and Riot would kill Vulak. That was a big thing that former AG members kept complaining about when the whole Klaz train happened, they felt like that kind of thing happened week in and week out at Vulak, and all they were ever offered was a rez, never a concession.

We mostly sat on our hands saying “well Riot has over 100, so we can’t do anything” and didn’t even try on most mobs it felt like. Or if we did get the engage we would fuck up something simple like rampage. As I know some of the AM people would say we “AG’d it.”

[hotkarlmarxbros]

AG was a lot more casual at the time. I actually have asked about this period a bunch because I didn't play much during that span, but the general consensus is, that AG would compete for Vulak, get trained by Riot almost weekly if they competed, they would "offer a rez", and Riot would kill Vulak. That was a big thing that former AG members kept complaining about when the whole Klaz train happened, they felt like that kind of thing happened week in and week out at Vulak, and all they were ever offered was a rez, never a concession.

The revisionist history here is hilarious. I was in AM then AG at the time. Riot didn't train shit. They didn't train mobs, they didn't train others, they didn't train themselves. They pulled mobs in meticulously one by one until all that was left was a naked dragon. They won with numbers when AM playmakers logged off after having geared their characters and got bored/annoyed from not getting the glory from entrance pulls any more, instead, having to herd fucking cats through ntov to win objectives.

Case in point: when ag/f/vanq merged and aggressively recruited and matched Riot numbers, plus brought an ounce of strategy, you see exactly what I'm talking about. Riot is still trying to play catch up with the current train and kite meta with all things (read: numbers) being equal, despite being "dominant" in tov for so long. So while I will agree that Vanq is doing a lot of outplaying on a technical level in tov at present, the biggest problem that can come back to bite them in the ass is not owning up to the bullshit like the Klaz train and trying to hand-wave it away like it was somehow justified rather than the egregiously rule-breaking degenerate behavior that it is.

[Mblake1981]

Riot was formed to kill aftermath.

So let's not pretend.

The aim was true.

griffin killed me again!

[Twochain]

The revisionist history here is hilarious. I was in AM then AG at the time. Riot didn't train shit. They didn't train mobs, they didn't train others, they didn't train themselves. They pulled mobs in meticulously one by one until all that was left was a naked dragon. They won with numbers when AM playmakers logged off after having geared their characters and got bored/annoyed from not getting the glory from entrance pulls any more, instead, having to herd fucking cats through ntov to win objectives.

Case in point: when ag/f/vanq merged and aggressively recruited and matched Riot numbers, plus brought an ounce of strategy, you see exactly what I'm talking about. Riot is still trying to play catch up with the current train and kite meta with all things (read: numbers) being equal, despite being "dominant" in tov for so long. So while I will agree that Vanq is doing a lot of outplaying on a technical level in tov at present, the biggest problem that can come back to bite them in the ass is not owning up to the bullshit like the Klaz train and trying to hand-wave it away like it was somehow justified rather than the egregiously rule-breaking degenerate behavior that it is.

Who dis?

I'm saying what I was told, and was told something along those lines by multiple people.

[Twochain]

The aim was true.

never even sniffing the play everquest button with a human selected ever again

[Mblake1981]

never even sniffing the play everquest button with a human selected ever again

Griff was the best hero any of these servers ever had or will have.

[Bardp1999]

Riot was formed to kill aftermath. It was the rallying call throughout it's discord until AM was gone. YoU'rE BeInG SeRvEd HuMBlE PiE HoW DoeS It TaStE AM??

So let's not pretend.

In fairness, every single zerg raid guild on the server was created to destroy something/someone.

TMO was created to destroy the server of casual scum and bring glory to their mothers basement, Inglorious Bastards was created to destroy TMO, Rampage was created to destroy IG, Forsaken was created to destroy Rampage, Awakened was created to destroy Forsaken, Aftermath was created to destroy Awakened, and most importantly BDA was created to destroy the rotation.

There are probably 10 other guilds im leaving out but this should illustrate the point.

[Gustoo]

When is TMO coming back?

[booter]

In fairness, every single zerg raid guild on the server was created to destroy something/someone.

TMO was created to destroy the server of casual scum and bring glory to their mothers basement, Inglorious Bastards was created to destroy TMO, Rampage was created to destroy IG, Forsaken was created to destroy Rampage, Awakened was created to destroy Forsaken, Aftermath was created to destroy Awakened, and most importantly BDA was created to destroy the rotation.

There are probably 10 other guilds im leaving out but this should illustrate the point.

IB was around/dominant before TMO

[Baler]

Some of P99's raid history has been documented here:
https://wiki.project1999.com/Raid_History

If anyone has factual non bias information they wish to add please do so.
Remember trolling or malicious actions on the wiki are a bannable offense.

[Twochain]

Some of P99's raid history has been documented here:
https://wiki.project1999.com/Raid_History

If anyone has factual non bias information they wish to add please do so.
Remember trolling or malicious actions on the wiki are a bannable offense.

oh shit this is awesome

[Tilien]

My favorite part about the raid history page is that the only mention of Dawn Believers is that it was dissolved.

As if the creation and existence of DB was unworthy of mention, but it's death was worth noting.

[branamil]

Wasn't OP that fat bald dude who liked to say the N word in chat and said he was a ""Legend"" in p99?

[Twochain]

Wasn't OP that fat bald dude who liked to say the N word in chat and said he was a ""Legend"" in p99?

whoa whoa whoa

conda isn't fat, show some respect

brana i miss u dude why do u still lurk the forums though lmao i feel like you only post to relay how scorned you are that you spent so much time on this server. I don't get it, come play some time

[druidbob]

My favorite part about the raid history page is that the only mention of Dawn Believers is that it was dissolved.

As if the creation and existence of DB was unworthy of mention, but it's death was worth noting.

Hey now, DB had two of the best RNF threads ever, we made our mark on p99 history lol.

[Mblake1981]

Read the whole thing.

Now that A/A is no more, <Riot> guys have had time in the sun, I would support removing rooted dragons. It isn't right in the grand scheme of this game to keep it. (but it was cool seeing the zone for a small time)

I would also support nuking Green server and rolling them into Blue. Its the same population we had prior but split. Hard to find the obscure stuff in the tunnel now.
Nuke those silly camp rules before they come back.

What the raid history taught me more than anything was the value of a single server experience.

[Baler]

My favorite part about the raid history page is that the only mention of Dawn Believers is that it was dissolved.

As if the creation and existence of DB was unworthy of mention, but it's death was worth noting.

If you know factual non bias information regarding Dawn Believers raiding.
Please contribute that information in the appropriate section. :)

Everyone is welcome to help improve the P99 raid history so long as it's not inappropriate.

https://wiki.project1999.com/Raid_History

[matticas]

While I certainly don't want to raid on a 1 guild server....

Riot was formed to kill aftermath. It was the rallying call throughout it's discord until AM was gone. YoU'rE BeInG SeRvEd HuMBlE PiE HoW DoeS It TaStE AM??

So let's not pretend.

Also while we're on our moral high ground, all Riot had to do was let Detoxx app. Like just apply to the guild. Didn't even have to take him in, just APPLY so he could play with his group of friends who joined Riot. And they would still be happily killing every single dragon for free, uncontested, without bag limits.

QFT. Twochain pretty much always on point.

[zanderklocke]

If you know factual non bias information regarding Dawn Believers raiding.
Please contribute that information in the appropriate section. :)

Everyone is welcome to help improve the P99 raid history so long as it's not inappropriate.

https://wiki.project1999.com/Raid_History

I love how this information is passed down like oral history and multiple story tellers on this page are saying the information is inaccurate.

If only we had some historian who actually took the time to review all of the old forum posts to actually have something objective and non-biased....who am I kidding, that would be an absolute waste of time. :rolleyes:

[starkind]

Riot never made me pee my panties.

[Baler]

I love how this information is passed down like oral history and multiple story tellers on this page are saying the information is inaccurate.

If only we had some historian who actually took the time to review all of the old forum posts to actually have something objective and non-biased....who am I kidding, that would be an absolute waste of time. :rolleyes:

For years I have retched my soul over the idea of someone actually documenting the history of EQ and UO. Both live and Private. There are so many important stories that are lost to history. I really to my deepest core wish someone would start filling that void. I don't think I could do it. I can't explain how deeply I want this.

[zanderklocke]

For years I have retched my soul over the idea of someone actually documenting the history of EQ and UO. Both live and Private. There are so many important stories that are lost to history. I really to my deepest core wish someone would start filling that void. I don't think I could do it. I can't explain how deeply I want this.

I contributed my Gimpatron portion to that page.

[imsorryGMs]

I dunno about all this, I'm still getting to tank dragons and giants on the regular, we are definitely not done :p

Which ones? Lul

[myrddraal]

If you know factual non bias information regarding Dawn Believers raiding.
Please contribute that information in the appropriate section. :)

Everyone is welcome to help improve the P99 raid history so long as it's not inappropriate.

https://wiki.project1999.com/Raid_History

pretty sure they had the lowest person koi kill since rooted dragons

[Bardp1999]

The single server experience is what made P99. Green was a mistake, it ruined both Green and Blue. Merging them should happen sooner than later. Will also be funny to see Seal Team have to deal with Detoxx

[Bardp1999]

Leveling on Green right now is a fucking abysmal experience and raiding is for no life losers

[Tunabros]

Merging them should happen sooner than later. Will also be funny to see Seal Team have to deal with Detoxx

haha that will be a day to remember!

[Horza]

Will also be funny to see Seal Team have to deal with Detoxx

Nobody deserves that punishment.

[Mblake1981]

Someone was asking why play on a locked server that never changes, thing is it does change just in different ways. Mega guilds come and go, server dominating players come and go, eras come and go.

The game itself doesn't change much. Locked server but nothing is truly permanent is it?

[Ravager]

Someone was asking why play on a locked server that never changes, thing is it does change just in different ways. Mega guilds come and go, server dominating players come and go, eras come and go.

The game itself doesn't change much. Locked server but nothing is truly permanent is it?

Guild leaders and officers get burned out from the bullshit of babysitting and fighting with degenerate retarded manbabies. The degenerate retarded manbabies never move on.

Case in point, I haven't played 20 hours of P99 in two years, but here I am, just as degenerate and retarded as ever.

[Mblake1981]

Note to the devs/guides:

That last big Halloween event you did, I don't care what people bitched or moaned, that was cool stuff. Everyone logged on. Sometimes you just have to forget what the haters say.

Also the Christmas Event by <Department of Fun> / <Cracked Staff Artisans> was also memorable.

[Vianna]

In fairness, every single zerg raid guild on the server was created to destroy something/someone.

TMO was created to destroy the server of casual scum and bring glory to their mothers basement, Inglorious Bastards was created to destroy TMO, Rampage was created to destroy IG, Forsaken was created to destroy Rampage, Awakened was created to destroy Forsaken, Aftermath was created to destroy Awakened, and most importantly BDA was created to destroy the rotation.

There are probably 10 other guilds im leaving out but this should illustrate the point.

IB was before TMO. But carry on.

[Thorgrimm]

In fairness, every single zerg raid guild on the server was created to destroy something/someone.

TMO was created to destroy the server of casual scum and bring glory to their mothers basement, Inglorious Bastards was created to destroy TMO, Rampage was created to destroy IG, Forsaken was created to destroy Rampage, Awakened was created to destroy Forsaken, Aftermath was created to destroy Awakened, and most importantly BDA was created to destroy the rotation.

There are probably 10 other guilds im leaving out but this should illustrate the point.

IB was the sperm that fertilized the greed egg, which spawned the Poopsock

[MaCtastic]

Nobody deserves that punishment.

It’s going to be great when Seal Team and Vanquish leadership battle it out tummy-stick style over the blue servers “top deplorable” title post blue-green merger.

I wonder what the Draft Kings over under will be for:

1. Which guild leader will follow through with their “ I’m not just and internet tough guy” threat first..
And

2. Which guild is first to initiate the inevitable guild merger, cause as we all know, there can only be one

[Loke]

Pretty sure Kunark was live before TMO was able to break into PoFear.

[Solist]

You spend a lot of time obsessing over how competitive guilds play, and not enough rerolling on TAKP where you can have rotations and all content open you want Dainae.

[MaCtastic]

You spend a lot of time obsessing over how competitive guilds play, and not enough rerolling on TAKP where you can have rotations and all content open you want Dainae.

What, it was a paragraph projecting a likely possibility. I’d hardly equate that to “a lot of time”. Not my fault if an easy jab landed. You wanna group up on TAKP Solist, I’d drink some beer and need out with ya.

[MaCtastic]

Nerd out*

[MaCtastic]

You spend a lot of time obsessing over how competitive guilds play, and not enough rerolling on TAKP where you can have rotations and all content open you want Dainae.

It just dawned on me ... the only real competitive play existed on red about 3+ years ago. On blue, I’m not sure what adjective most accurately describes what’s occurring, but it’s certainly not competition.

[Arvan]

While I certainly don't want to raid on a 1 guild server....

Riot was formed to kill aftermath. It was the rallying call throughout it's discord until AM was gone. YoU'rE BeInG SeRvEd HuMBlE PiE HoW DoeS It TaStE AM??

So let's not pretend.

Also while we're on our moral high ground, all Riot had to do was let Detoxx app. Like just apply to the guild. Didn't even have to take him in, just APPLY so he could play with his group of friends who joined Riot. And they would still be happily killing every single dragon for free, uncontested, without bag limits.

So a toxic fully grown man-child with a laundry list of past issues on p99 got denied joining a guild and thats your excuse for acting the way you guys act in game and the un and stuff? Got dang yall need Jesus.

[Nexii]

Also while we're on our moral high ground, all Riot had to do was let Detoxx app. Like just apply to the guild. Didn't even have to take him in, just APPLY so he could play with his group of friends who joined Riot. And they would still be happily killing every single dragon for free, uncontested, without bag limits.

Would be even more toxic if he got strung along for 30 days and then voted out.

[Solist]

It just dawned on me ... the only real competitive play existed on red about 3+ years ago. On blue, I’m not sure what adjective most accurately describes what’s occurring, but it’s certainly not competition.

You have absolutely no concept or clue of what happens in the top end.

If you did you would understand how ridiculous your statement is, and how much credibiity is lost in saying it.

[Solist]

So a toxic fully grown man-child with a laundry list of past issues on p99 got denied joining a guild and thats your excuse for acting the way you guys act in game and the un and stuff? Got dang yall need Jesus.

Who acts like what?

You know vanquish, and riot, are made of roughly 500 normal every day people. They arbitarily think they're the good guys, from opposite sides each.

More toxic cretins in kittens than both riot and vanq rank and file combined.

[mactast1c]

You have absolutely no concept or clue of what happens in the top end.

If you did you would understand how ridiculous your statement is, and how much credibiity is lost in saying it.

At the top?

"First bag limit in TOV: Vulak is first mob bagged by <Kittens Who Say Meow> on 20 April 2021.
First Welfare Vulak'Aerr Post Bag Limit: <Vanquish> 14 May 2021.
"

[farladar]

Drugs

[Allishia]

Would be even more toxic if he got strung along for 30 days and then voted out.

I think he woulda got in if he was allowed to app, we had a lot of controversial apps that a few people left over and they still got voted in. I still don't agree with the not letting him app thing /nod

[Allishia]

But on a positive note, Riot is still doing great and I got to tank the tunare wohooo! :p

[myrddraal]

Someone was asking why play on a locked server that never changes, thing is it does change just in different ways. Mega guilds come and go, server dominating players come and go, eras come and go.

The game itself doesn't change much. Locked server but nothing is truly permanent is it?

The warmers being gone is pretty permanent lol

[myrddraal]

Warders, damn you auto correct

[Nexii]

I think he woulda got in if he was allowed to app, we had a lot of controversial apps that a few people left over and they still got voted in. I still don't agree with the not letting him app thing /nod

Yea I don't agree with it either. Didn't like it when Detoxx meddled with applications the same way.

[sydbarrett25]

You have absolutely no concept or clue of what happens in the top end.

If you did you would understand how ridiculous your statement is, and how much credibiity is lost in saying it.

“Let me offend you without truly understanding what is going on in the top end myself. I myself have no credibility, but look Im here!”

[Twochain]

It’s going to be great when Seal Team and Vanquish leadership battle it out tummy-stick style over the blue servers “top deplorable” title post blue-green merger.

I wonder what the Draft Kings over under will be for:

1. Which guild leader will follow through with their “ I’m not just and internet tough guy” threat first..
And

2. Which guild is first to initiate the inevitable guild merger, cause as we all know, there can only be one

Good portion of ST is ex am. Phatez was an officer, Smash cut his teeth being an officer in AM, a good portion of the players was ex am. So we're gonna compete but it's not going to be a hate fest.

[Mblake1981]

Warders, damn you auto correct

Aside from saying something on the forums for chops, Warders being gone does nothing to change the change for me. Ultimo raider problems.

[Mblake1981]

-_-

that is what I get for trying to post and snare at the same time.

[Ennewi]

More toxic cretins in kittens than both riot and vanq rank and file combined.

Name a member who has threatened physical harm on someone. Name one who trained another guild using their own account and then lied about doing so. Hard to top those without making it up as you go.

[Horza]

Name a member who has threatened physical harm on someone. Name one who trained another guild using their own account and then lied about doing so. Hard to top those without making it up as you go.

Okay, but it's a tough time of year.

[apathe]

Name a member who has threatened physical harm on someone. Name one who trained another guild using their own account and then lied about doing so. Hard to top those without making it up as you go.
Jutebox is the answer to each one.

[Nutsax]

Jutebox is the answer to each one.

Nope, stop gaslighting.

[MaCtastic]

Jutebox is the answer to each one.

I am Jutebox.

[tankh]

I really love these posts, I’m pretty sure bag limits are almost equal ? Not seen an OP riot thread, just lots of VQ members claiming riot are dead ? O the VQ spin ������

Are you a cunt that likes to train ? Join VQ today we will show you how to play the system.

Can’t wait until p99 gets some CSR with free time to sort all this crazy ness out, I’m waiting for VQ to implode gonna be funny as fuck seeing dettox LFGuild ��

[Tongpow]

I’m waiting for VQ to implode
hopefully the next guild name will be <Bag Limits>

[Ennewi]

ry1tNGC6npg

[Wokka]

There's toxic people in all guilds, you're all just obsessed with pushing the narrative that only one guild has them. Watching you all bicker and whine with each other in RnF just proves that point.

Let's be honest, without bag limits Riot would be getting very few mobs. In a competitive scenario they get beaten 9 times out of every 10. Without Kittens next to them every ToV cycle they would struggle for the numbers for some mobs, they aren't the massive zerg they once were. Bag limits came in at just the right time to "save" them, so to speak.

Members of nearly all the guilds have been caught doing shady shit, from dispelling slowed raid mobs, training, lull pulling, casting fake buffs, opening trade windows, the list goes on. But that doesn't fit the narrative of "it's all Vanquish!, those cunts!". The hypocrisy is real.

[myrddraal]

Weird thing to say since Riots killed the last 5 trakanons in a row.

[remen]

If you want know who is the better guild, it's as simple as this...Which guild wants to do away with bag limits? Which guild wants to expand bag limits? Which guild needs to call for reinforcements on contested mobs?

Kriot wants more welfare hand outs, Vanquish wants more competition.

[Arvan]

If you want know who is the better guild, it's as simple as this...Which guild wants to do away with bag limits? Which guild wants to expand bag limits? Which guild needs to call for reinforcements on contested mobs?

Kriot wants more welfare hand outs, Vanquish wants more competition.

It really was sad when AM had to absorb one of the only competitive guilds left on the server completely to even get a single kill anymore. Reinforcements I suppose.

[ArbiterBlixen]

It really was sad when AM had to absorb one of the only competitive guilds left on the server completely to even get a single kill anymore. Reinforcements I suppose.

Cool. How are they doing now?

[aaezil]

Cool. How are they doing now?

Mostly cheating/training other guilds a lot of the time. No csr in sight!

[ArbiterBlixen]

Mostly cheating/training other guilds a lot of the time. No csr in sight!

Too bad there are no more good raiding guilds for riot to merge with. Bag limit life support though. It’s a living.

[supercalif]

There's toxic people in all guilds, you're all just obsessed with pushing the narrative that only one guild has them. Watching you all bicker and whine with each other in RnF just proves that point.

Let's be honest, without bag limits Riot would be getting very few mobs. In a competitive scenario they get beaten 9 times out of every 10. Without Kittens next to them every ToV cycle they would struggle for the numbers for some mobs, they aren't the massive zerg they once were. Bag limits came in at just the right time to "save" them, so to speak.

Members of nearly all the guilds have been caught doing shady shit, from dispelling slowed raid mobs, training, lull pulling, casting fake buffs, opening trade windows, the list goes on. But that doesn't fit the narrative of "it's all Vanquish!, those cunts!". The hypocrisy is real.

Well said

[Ripqozko]

It really was sad when AM had to absorb one of the only competitive guilds left on the server completely to even get a single kill anymore. Reinforcements I suppose.

Kinda like riot absorbed like 13 guilds? Including some of kittens. Imagine

[k9quaint]

It's official, this is thread number #274 created by Vanquish wishing Riot was dead.
So triggered.

[ArbiterBlixen]

It's official, this is thread number #274 created by Vanquish wishing Riot was dead.
So triggered.

Grats on feshlak

[Nutsax]

Too bad there are no more good raiding guilds for riot to merge with. Bag limit life support though. It’s a living.

LOL at the gaslighting.

Bag Limits to date:

KWSM 15

Riot 35

Trainquish 41

If Trainquish did not play dirty, Riot would be ahead.

[Bardp1999]

Dude stop with the gaslighting shit you are not even using it properly 90% of the time

[Ennewi]

There's toxic people in all guilds, you're all just obsessed with pushing the narrative that only one guild has them. Watching you all bicker and whine with each other in RnF just proves that point.

While the first point is true to an extent, you aren't accounting for the behavior that is extreme. Whether condoned or encouraged, there are differences in offenses between all guilds, from the top down. It isn't perfectly even. It isn't 50/50 with the good and bad there to cancel each other put on both sides.

Similarly, not everyone is bickering and whining in these threads, or even creating these threads to begin with. It's easy to see who are the instigators. That's the point of RNF though. If you think a guild is supposed to abstain from RNF to prove they aren't part of the problem, you may as well expect them to avoid raid zones or leave the server too.

[ArbiterBlixen]

While the first point is true to an extent, you aren't accounting for the behavior that is extreme. Whether condoned or encouraged, there are differences in offenses between all guilds, from the top down. It isn't perfectly even. It isn't 50/50 with the good and bad there to cancel each other put on both sides.

Similarly, not everyone is bickering and whining in these threads, or even creating these threads to begin with. It's easy to see who are the instigators. That's the point of RNF though. If you think a guild is supposed to abstain from RNF to prove they aren't part of the problem, you may as well expect them to avoid raid zones or leave the server too.

/agree, you're so much better when you don't respond in the form of a youtube link

[Ennewi]

/agree, you're so much better when you don't respond in the form of a youtube link

You're so much better when you don't respond.

[Ennewi]

Sorry, I meant to say...

dW37AGZ0Pj0

[remen]

LOL at the gaslighting.

Bag Limits to date:

KWSM 15

Riot 35

Trainquish 41

If Trainquish did not play dirty, Riot would be ahead.

Cool, then Kriot should have no problem agreeing to do away with bag limits?

[Tunabros]

blue drama lol

seek jesus

[SantagarBrax]

Can we go back to the raid history? That was pretty cool yet there are inaccuracies.

Why does Forsaken get a mention once, then continue to be called TMO? Another point I'd like to add is that members from all guilds have pretty much guilded with everyone at one point in time or another. We're all one big melting pot now so the accusations of "only this guild does x, y, z" are rather irrelevant.

[Zekayy]

Can we go back to the raid history? That was pretty cool yet there are inaccuracies.

Why does Forsaken get a mention once, then continue to be called TMO? Another point I'd like to add is that members from all guilds have pretty much guilded with everyone at one point in time or another. We're all one big melting pot now so the accusations of "only this guild does x, y, z" are rather irrelevant.

I miss the days of forsaken, good times.

[Nirgon]

blue drama lol

seek jesus

The weeb is shitting on you guys.

God is that a bad look.

[Nirgon]

It's nothing I haven't said in numerous other threads in general, rnf, and other relevant bugs. You are free to go back through the other 5K+ posts to check for yourself. That this server, for all intents and purposes, is an ongoing beta server and not to be mad about missed time windows.

If you want to make something of it go for it. :D
It's an ongoing beta server alright

[Croco]

There's toxic people in all guilds, you're all just obsessed with pushing the narrative that only one guild has them. Watching you all bicker and whine with each other in RnF just proves that point.

Let's be honest, without bag limits Riot would be getting very few mobs. In a competitive scenario they get beaten 9 times out of every 10. Without Kittens next to them every ToV cycle they would struggle for the numbers for some mobs, they aren't the massive zerg they once were. Bag limits came in at just the right time to "save" them, so to speak.

Members of nearly all the guilds have been caught doing shady shit, from dispelling slowed raid mobs, training, lull pulling, casting fake buffs, opening trade windows, the list goes on. But that doesn't fit the narrative of "it's all Vanquish!, those cunts!". The hypocrisy is real.

More gaslighting. More parroting mistruths. More comparing things that are in no way comparable. Everyone in Riot who was breaking rules was punished or guild removed, VQ can't say the same. Without the AG muscle Freedom killed nothing of note. If AG had refused to raid with Freedom that guild would've died an unnoteworthy death.

There's toxicity then there's the fact that of all guilds on the server there's one that's disliked above all the rest by virtually every other raiding guild. There's one guild where all the worst people on the server have flocked to when other guilds kick them. You have a guild leader who has lied to staff and is proved to have 2 boxed when supposedly 2 boxing is worthy of a permaban.

You keep trying to draw equivalencies to make it seem like both guilds are the same and do the same sorts of bad things but per usual that's an absolute joke. VQ revels in their degeneracy and rule breaking. Doing things like jokingly offering a dkp bonus for training Riot. This is simply not something you would ever see happen in Riot discord, guildchat, or voice. Your guild is rotten to the core from the head down.

[Mblake1981]

God is that a bad look.

Miragul's fashionista flexing Green like vax shot.

[Samoht]

Croco calls out people for parroting lies and mistruths then goes on to include lies and mistruths. Typical posting format from this hypocrite.

[remen]

More gaslighting. More parroting mistruths. More comparing things that are in no way comparable. Everyone in Riot who was breaking rules was punished or guild removed, VQ can't say the same. Without the AG muscle Freedom killed nothing of note. If AG had refused to raid with Freedom that guild would've died an unnoteworthy death.

There's toxicity then there's the fact that of all guilds on the server there's one that's disliked above all the rest by virtually every other raiding guild. There's one guild where all the worst people on the server have flocked to when other guilds kick them. You have a guild leader who has lied to staff and is proved to have 2 boxed when supposedly 2 boxing is worthy of a permaban.

You keep trying to draw equivalencies to make it seem like both guilds are the same and do the same sorts of bad things but per usual that's an absolute joke. VQ revels in their degeneracy and rule breaking. Doing things like jokingly offering a dkp bonus for training Riot. This is simply not something you would ever see happen in Riot discord, guildchat, or voice. Your guild is rotten to the core from the head down.

But how do you really feel?

Vanq feelin good living rent free in your head =P

[Croco]

Croco calls out people for parroting lies and mistruths then goes on to include lies and mistruths. Typical posting format from this hypocrite.

Typical VQ posting vague trash without any substantive backing.

The sad truth is that we have to try and counterpost all the trash vq spouts because all you guys do is post RnF threads with constant lies in an effort to drive your false narratives. If Riot just ignored all the shit posts in RnF all the GM's and non-raiders would see is a steady stream of Trainquish lies.

[Samoht]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rRqk31SGhs8

[Samoht]

“I mean I'm just trying to drag more mobs, if they have more than 4 on them, I just try to drag them away from them and kite them towards their CT ‘cause why not.”

[Croco]

“I mean I'm just trying to drag more mobs, if they have more than 4 on them, I just try to drag them away from them and kite them towards their CT ‘cause why not.”

I'm glad you posted this obvious facetious comment from screapy, a serial bullshitter, as if it were serious. Now we both have an obviously not serious comment to compare to each other between this and the klaz dkp bonus for training. Both are obviously not serious. Your gaslighting is a little poor today. You should try harder next time.

[Samoht]

So it's okay when your guild "jokes" about interfering with another guild's CT engage, but when the other guild jokes about awarding DKP for an unintentional train, suddenly it's "srs bzns."

Can you at least acknowledge how that would look hypocritical to anybody with half a brain?

[Graahle]

You guys are fucking psychopaths lol.

[Croco]

So it's okay when your guild "jokes" about interfering with another guild's CT engage, but when the other guild jokes about awarding DKP for an unintentional train, suddenly it's "srs bzns."

Can you at least acknowledge how that would look hypocritical to anybody with half a brain?

If you honestly thought anyone in Riot actually thought klaz was going to be awarded 50 dkp for training you have less than half a brain.

[Samoht]

If you honestly thought anyone in Riot actually thought klaz was going to be awarded 50 dkp for training you have less than half a brain.

Let me just quote what you claimed just because you seem to have forgotten:

Doing things like jokingly offering a dkp bonus for training Riot. This is simply not something you would ever see happen in Riot discord, guildchat, or voice. Your guild is rotten to the core from the head down.

A) Evidence provided that it does happen in Riot
B) Transitive property would prove that if this makes Vanquish "rotten to the core from the head down" that it would also make Riot "rotten to the core from the head down"

You must be on a Riot koolaid drip to actually believe the bullshit you're posting. You really need some outside perspective on this to see how deep you really are. You've proven time and again that you don't want to hear it from people smarter than you.

Can some dumbass boil this down in language that Croco will understand?

[Naethyn]

Orange man bad. (detoxx)

[Fammaden]

Where did all the Riot members go now that they broke up?

[remen]

Doing things like jokingly offering a dkp bonus for training Riot. This is simply not something you would ever see happen in Riot discord, guildchat, or voice.

I'm glad you posted this obvious facetious comment from screapy, a serial bullshitter, as if it were serious. Now we both have an obviously not serious comment to compare to each other between this and the klaz dkp bonus for training. Both are obviously not serious.

I've known you are dumb, but please tell me you at least have enough working brain cells to see the complete hypocrisy of those two statements.

[Croco]

Let me just quote what you claimed just because you seem to have forgotten:



A) Evidence provided that it does happen in Riot
B) Transitive property would prove that if this makes Vanquish "rotten to the core from the head down" that it would also make Riot "rotten to the core from the head down"

You must be on a Riot koolaid drip to actually believe the bullshit you're posting. You really need some outside perspective on this to see how deep you really are. You've proven time and again that you don't want to hear it from people smarter than you.

Can some dumbass boil this down in language that Croco will understand?

I'll take the L on this one. Considering you found the one instance of someone in Riot joking about something he very clearly shouldn't have been joking about. We can hold that up to the dozens of instances of trainquish doing much worse so you can push your equivalency narrative.

I'm still curious if we could get an explanation from your pocket GM as to why he thinks 2 boxing is worthy of a permaban but your guild leader is still alive and well on the server. And before you spout off about 'whataboutism' this isn't that. I'm honestly curious considering how prominent his stance is about 2 boxing these days.

I would love to hear things from someone smarter than me but that would require me to go outside of these forums and counterspinning all the trainquish gaslighting and lying is a full time job. You guys just can't help yourselves from creating post after post full of lies.

[Samoht]

I'm still curious if we could get an explanation from your pocket GM

Oh, this is gonna be good...

[Baler]

Who do we hate next

[Toxigen]

I'll take the L on this one. Considering you found the one instance of someone in Riot joking about something he very clearly shouldn't have been joking about. We can hold that up to the dozens of instances of trainquish doing much worse so you can push your equivalency narrative.

I'm still curious if we could get an explanation from your pocket GM as to why he thinks 2 boxing is worthy of a permaban but your guild leader is still alive and well on the server. And before you spout off about 'whataboutism' this isn't that. I'm honestly curious considering how prominent his stance is about 2 boxing these days.

I would love to hear things from someone smarter than me but that would require me to go outside of these forums and counterspinning all the trainquish gaslighting and lying is a full time job. You guys just can't help yourselves from creating post after post full of lies.

guy...seek help

you're unhinged

[Freakish]

Who do we hate next

The casuals. I just hate them so much.

[Naethyn]

that is the point of casual week is it not?

[Baler]

The casuals. I just hate them so much.

Damn those casuals who can enjoy everquest in a healthy way. :o

[Graahle]

You stupid fucks need to move on with your lives.

[Detoxx]

Will also be funny to see Seal Team have to deal with Detoxx
A lot of Seam Team are people who played in Aftermath, I cant wait until they come over, Im sure itll be a blast!

[Detoxx]

Yea I don't agree with it either. Didn't like it when Detoxx meddled with applications the same way.

First, I never touched applications.
Second, you were never in a position to know if I did

Ask anyone who knows me, any officer of old AM times. I had 2 rules with recruitment:

1. I dont deal with it and;
2. Give everyone their fair shot.

You just love to spit bullshit and lies to slander me constantly. Its pathetic, really.

[Detoxx]

Weird thing to say since Riots killed the last 5 trakanons in a row.

Lol this is Riots benchmark now? Trakanon? Yikes its worse than we thought.

Also, its a lie as well.

[Detoxx]

I'll take the L on this one. Considering you found the one instance of someone in Riot joking about something he very clearly shouldn't have been joking about. We can hold that up to the dozens of instances of trainquish doing much worse so you can push your equivalency narrative.

I'm still curious if we could get an explanation from your pocket GM as to why he thinks 2 boxing is worthy of a permaban but your guild leader is still alive and well on the server. And before you spout off about 'whataboutism' this isn't that. I'm honestly curious considering how prominent his stance is about 2 boxing these days.

I would love to hear things from someone smarter than me but that would require me to go outside of these forums and counterspinning all the trainquish gaslighting and lying is a full time job. You guys just can't help yourselves from creating post after post full of lies.

Lol so far Riot is the only guild to do these things:

1. Directly interfere with another guilds engage but dispelling a slowable mob in an attempt to wipe them not once, but twice (Zlandicar and Statue. Cant remember who dispelled Statue but, still in Riot).

2. Directly train another guilds attempt on Trakanon with an eyeball in hopes of not getting caught but getting caught anyways. (Herpaderp Yankovich doesnt know how mechanics work after years on the server and leading a "raiding" guild. Still in Riot).

3. Intentionally cast Celerity on Vanquishes members who where going out to SoW for kiting guards on a Vulak engage in hopes of them getting smoked for thinking they had SoW but instead had Celerity (Aagent, still in Riot).

4. Intentionally try to disrupt CH Chains in hopes of causing a wipe. This has happened many times with nearly no response from Riot other than "Oh well". (Tekka, still in Riot)

5. Claims of bias from a GM when there are no current Vanquish members on staff having input on raid decisions while Blistig, who is Wigging from Riot, who is currently still in the raid scene, will have input on raid disputes. Lets not forget that Wigging, at one point, was a speaker for Riot in the UN and there is no chance he will not have a bias.

So sorry that you get trained by Vanquish every once and a while, its part of the game. It happens on both sides and we own up to it when we do. You know what Vanquish doesnt do? Any of those things listed above that are truly toxic.

[Nexii]

Swiftyfist was given three chances to get 70% when anyone else was denied after one failed vote.

Teraclon had 70% yes+extend and wasn't given another 30 days because of a personal vendetta.

Reddarok quit over it I remember, said there was no point in the recruitment process since it wasn't being followed.

[Tunabros]

Blue Drama

we live in a society

[Ennewi]

So sorry that you get trained by Vanquish every once and a while, its part of the game. It happens on both sides and we own up to it when we do.

We figured out who that player was. We reached out just in case they had a weak moment and did a dumb thing. Unfortunately, he denied all allegations, which led to multiple additional hours of staff time digging through logs, only to come to the same conclusion. I don't like being lied to. I don't like having staff time wasted.

Furoar was that player that logged on to the wizard that trained Riot’s raid force. We know this with 100% certainty.

Before saying that was a different guild, it might be a good idea to change your signature.

[SantagarBrax]

Who do we hate next

Biden.

The Taliban takeover of Afghanistan went smoother than the U.S. presidential transition in January.

[xdrcfrx]

quintuple post = not mad, definitely.

[Detoxx]

Before saying that was a different guild, it might be a good idea to change your signature.

Player was punished, guild was punished. Also still had no effect on killing a raid mob, it was done out of frustration after raid mob was dead and not to try to force a wipe for a guild to steal said mob.

All transgressions I listed above were done maliciously to try and make another guild wipe because they Riot is tired of just losing.

Huge difference.

[Detoxx]

Swiftyfist was given three chances to get 70% when anyone else was denied after one failed vote.

Teraclon had 70% yes+extend and wasn't given another 30 days because of a personal vendetta.

Reddarok quit over it I remember, said there was no point in the recruitment process since it wasn't being followed.

None of which I had anything to do with so keep spinning your narrative against me.

[Nirgon]

all the bums tryin to take a swing at detoxx lol

[remen]

all the bums tryin to take a swing at detoxx lol

This round of swings doesn't seem to be going so well. He's just one warrior though so what's the worst that could happen...

[Hideousclaw]

all the bums tryin to take a swing at detoxx lol

RIP, Banned again

[Andrei Chikatilo]

He is worse every time

[Skarne]

Didn’t you kill like 50 little kids or something?

[Toryas]

Player was punished, guild was punished. Also still had no effect on killing a raid mob, it was done out of frustration after raid mob was dead and not to try to force a wipe for a guild to steal said mob.

All transgressions I listed above were done maliciously to try and make another guild wipe because they Riot is tired of just losing.

Huge difference.

Ah shit I didn't realise 2 boxing was only a permanent ban if you do it to train an opposing raid guild to try and force a wipe to steal said mob. Maybe Galach could add that to his signature, as it isn't clear.

[Mblake1981]

RIP, Banned again

off to miragul's highway

maybe Kraddok can do a documentary

[Allishia]

Ah shit I didn't realise 2 boxing was only a permanent ban if you do it to train an opposing raid guild to try and force a wipe to steal said mob. Maybe Galach could add that to his signature, as it isn't clear.

It is perfectly fine long as your not doing it to steal the raid mob. I'm going to box the hobbit clr oddesy and train Conda next dragon day just because of this thread bahahaha :p

[Tsunami21k]

Not Oddessy 😢😢😢😢😢

[Samoht]

It is perfectly fine long as your not doing it to steal the raid mob. I'm going to box the hobbit clr oddesy and train Conda next dragon day just because of this thread bahahaha :p

Do it. You'll receive a month long ban, your guild will get raid banned, but IT STILL WONT BE ENOUGH FOR THE OTHER SIDE. They'll still want blood from the stone.

Oh, wait, no, it's KRIOT acting like that, not Vanquish.

[Allishia]

Not Oddessy 😢😢😢😢😢

Lol was only bot I really used in aftermath, she has a sky shrine bp !! :)

[Allishia]

Do it. You'll receive a month long ban, your guild will get raid banned, but IT STILL WONT BE ENOUGH FOR THE OTHER SIDE. They'll still want blood from the stone.

Oh, wait, no, it's KRIOT acting like that, not Vanquish.

Who are you in game btw? Just wondering, you seem to take things a little serious over there :p

[Samoht]

Who are you in game btw? Just wondering, you seem to take things a little serious over there :p

You can call me daddy.

[Allishia]

You can call me daddy.

/veto

[Ennewi]

Player was punished, guild was punished.

The offending player still raided throughout their punishment, and the guild facilitated that, directly benefitting from it. Without the sharing of accounts then, guilt by association would have diminished by now.

Also still had no effect on killing a raid mob, it was done out of frustration after raid mob was dead and not to try to force a wipe for a guild to steal said mob.

Mens rea. "Even a dog knows the difference between being stumbled over and being kicked."

All transgressions I listed above were done maliciously to try and make another guild wipe because they Riot is tired of just losing.

Huge difference.

PNP policy and human decency aside, it is pretty impressive what all has been done to thwart the opposition, regardless of guild tags. For all intents and purposes, it has turned into a version of PvP that demands more creativity out of the playerbase.

But to which guild would an outsider ascribe malice? And to which frustration? In your own words, Riot is a guild that is tired of losing, while Vanquish is named after the very mission of its members, or at least its leadership, to see to Riot's undoing.

Malice. Frustration.

[Whale biologist]

Biden.

The Taliban takeover of Afghanistan went smoother than the U.S. presidential transition in January.

I see you Hun (https://www.businessinsider.com/china-said-taliban-takeover-more-smooth-than-us-presidential-transition-2021-8)

[Jibartik]

lol that CCP is efficient as f.

[Mblake1981]

lol that CCP is efficient as f.

I help fund them.

[glerkywop]

Player was punished, guild was punished. Also still had no effect on killing a raid mob, it was done out of frustration after raid mob was dead and not to try to force a wipe for a guild to steal said mob.

All transgressions I listed above were done maliciously to try and make another guild wipe because they Riot is tired of just losing.

Huge difference.
For clarity's sake:

It wasn't for a lack of effort that Furoar didn't train an active engage, he just died during the first two attempts and, by his third "successful" attempt, Lord Koi`Doken had been slain.

[Nutsax]

For clarity's sake:

It wasn't for a lack of effort that Furoar didn't train an active engage, he just died during the first two attempts and, by his third "successful" attempt, Lord Koi`Doken had been slain.

3rd time's a charm.

[Twochain]

I think alli should be allowed to hop on whatever toon she wants and train us one time for free

as long as she /nods in shout before the shit comes in i'm good with it

[Allishia]

I think alli should be allowed to hop on whatever toon she wants and train us one time for free

as long as she /nods in shout before the shit comes in i'm good with it

Lol you know I'm just picking, I wouldn't train anyone, on purpose anyway, accidents happen :p

[Ripqozko]

Lol you know I'm just picking, I wouldn't train anyone, on purpose anyway, accidents happen :p

Unless you are grouping in the hole

[Nutsax]

I think alli should be allowed to hop on whatever toon she wants and train us one time for free

as long as she /nods in shout before the shit comes in i'm good with it

Just like Furoar was allowed allowed to hop any toon he wanted while being banned? Banning a character isn't punishment as the character didn't train anyone, the person driving the toon did.

[tyrant49333]

Just like Furoar was allowed allowed to hop any toon he wanted while being banned? Banning a character isn't punishment as the character didn't train anyone, the person driving the toon did.

I can feel the tears welling in your eyes typing this

[Boptop]

it was a hard time of year tho

[Naethyn]

how'd quadruple post pass inspection.

[Kaitainz]

I can feel the tears welling in your eyes typing this

Were the tears as good as your most recent 7 day? asking for a friend enjoy!

[Tsunami21k]

Lol was only bot I really used in aftermath, she has a sky shrine bp !! :)

She’s one of my fav’s. It’s funny because I didn’t play when AM was around. You wonder how many people have come and gone and the bots live on!!

[Nutsax]

I can feel the tears welling in your eyes typing this

You must be a cuck, stop projecting.

[Akg49]

https://youtu.be/l_jajz6WdsU

Bump

[Tunabros]

is the Detoxx the most based player on p99 blue? or what

[Tunabros]

In fairness, every single zerg raid guild on the server was created to destroy something/someone.

TMO was created to destroy the server of casual scum and bring glory to their mothers basement, Inglorious Bastards was created to destroy TMO, Rampage was created to destroy IG, Forsaken was created to destroy Rampage, Awakened was created to destroy Forsaken, Aftermath was created to destroy Awakened, and most importantly BDA was created to destroy the rotation.

There are probably 10 other guilds im leaving out but this should illustrate the point.

correct me I'm wrong but I'm pretty sure IG came before TMO

TMO didn't exactly pop off until Kunark

[Tibbs12]

I don't think it is possible for riot to die. Even if they lose every contested spawn they will still be able to eat their free vulak, doze, and ntov dragons; this will keep players around and contesting other spawns to earn points to spend on their guaranteed vulak, doze, and ntov dragons.

[myrddraal]

Lol this is Riots benchmark now? Trakanon? Yikes its worse than we thought.

Also, its a lie as well.

Considering the narrative they were throwing out was that any non bagged raid mob we just lose all of, it was just one example. Our kill lists have had a few dains too. Didn't you lose like the last 4 zlandicars too? Either because you were just beaten or because you had to concede. You've got us licked on kael atm for sure, but we still have plenty of bag limits posted which means we do still get competitive targets too.

[Bache]

I'd rather not raid anymore than have a <Vanquish> tag next to my toon name.

Bibou <Riot>

[Fammaden]

OH, well if you do /showname 1 then you'll only see first names with no guild tags.

[remen]

I don't think it is possible for riot to die. Even if they lose every contested spawn they will still be able to eat their free vulak, doze, and ntov dragons; this will keep players around and contesting other spawns to earn points to spend on their guaranteed vulak, doze, and ntov dragons.

As long as bag limits stay in place, Criot will survive on welfare pixels.

I'd rather not raid anymore than have a <Vanquish> tag next to my toon name.

Bibou <Riot>

I'm sure they are devastated

[Graahle]

Remember when there weren’t bag limits and players weren’t such petition-pussies?

[Croco]

Remember when there weren’t bag limits and players weren’t such petition-pussies?

Remember when gm's actually reviewed petitions and meted out punishments to offending parties instead of letting them pile up for 4+ months?

[Graahle]

Irrelevant. I wouldn’t be able to keep up with these losers’ constant bitching either.

[branamil]

Remember when gm's actually reviewed petitions and meted out punishments to offending parties instead of letting them pile up for 4+ months?

Imagine what kind of person WANTS to sift through diabetic 45 year old's "petition" that a rival imaginary elf league upset him.. for free.

[druidbob]

Are there more petitions now? I always wonder if that's the case or if it's just that now they are in the UN channel visible to the public whereas before they were submitted privately.

[Detoxx]

Are there more petitions now? I always wonder if that's the case or if it's just that now they are in the UN channel visible to the public whereas before they were submitted privately.

There are way more petitions now than their ever has been.

[Bellringer]

There are way more petitions now than their ever has been.

https://i.imgur.com/XeDGfMl.gif

[Trexller]

https://i.imgur.com/XeDGfMl.gif

-Xev

[Nutsax]

From today.

There are way more petitions now than their ever has been.

From 10 days ago.


The GMs hate dealing with petitions, and I get that, but looking at these numbers its really isnt some inordinate amount of times that we have to rely on them to settle something and the constant lies and hyperbole listed by the quoted above and just straight misinformation.

Which is it? Never mind answering, you're a misinformation machine.

[Allishia]

From today.



From 10 days ago.



Which is it? Never mind answering, you're a misinformation machine.

I think he meant like compared to how many raids / dragons are actually contested. Like 2 petitions out of 300 raids. Not that there aren't a lot of petitions in general just compared to amount of raids....I said same thing twice but I think I explained it right /nod

[Nutsax]

I think he meant like compared to how many raids / dragons are actually contested. Like 2 petitions out of 300 raids. Not that there aren't a lot of petitions in general just compared to amount of raids....I said same thing twice but I think I explained it right /nod

Percentage vs actual, whatever fits his narrative that day gotchya /nod.

[remen]

From today.



From 10 days ago.



Which is it? Never mind answering, you're a misinformation machine.

Within the last 10 days Criot put in two petitions and is going to put in two more. This may come as a shock to you, but situations can change!

[Twochain]

Swiftyfist was given three chances to get 70% when anyone else was denied after one failed vote.

Teraclon had 70% yes+extend and wasn't given another 30 days because of a personal vendetta.

Reddarok quit over it I remember, said there was no point in the recruitment process since it wasn't being followed.

Little known fun fact, I also didn't get 70% and was let was let in by Aikons/Detoxx. In fact the first raid I ever went to in AM, someone loudly exclaimed in Teamspeak "Who the fuck let Twochain in the guild, he's like Caiu but worse" - Which to this day is just about the worst insult i've ever received in game or out. If Detoxx didn't let me in, I probably wouldn't still be playing here. There was nothing left for me to do outside of raids, and I was very bored of farming fungi tunics. (Which is where I received the bad reputation from, it's almost impossible to lock down a camp like that all the time and not be hated for it)

I feel like Detoxx let swiftyfist in because he felt bad that everyone essentially hated on him because he sounded like an idiot.... come to find out he was an idiot. Remember the time he said he needed the piece for his clerics epic on a guild chardok clear and he sold the MQ like 2 days later? LMAO

Teraclon.... you know why tf teraclon wasn't let in. WHO CALLS CHEANNA A BITCH? SHE'S A FUCKIN SAINT... also it's a little different when someone gets booted out of a guild vs applies for the first time. Teraclon legit had beef with just about every single officer in the guild. Hot headed ass frenchie was pretty nasty in VP though.

WTS Name: Teraclown pst

[Nexii]

Little known fun fact, I also didn't get 70% and was let was let in by Aikons/Detoxx. In fact the first raid I ever went to in AM, someone loudly exclaimed in Teamspeak "Who the fuck let Twochain in the guild, he's like Caiu but worse" - Which to this day is just about the worst insult i've ever received in game or out. If Detoxx didn't let me in, I probably wouldn't still be playing here. There was nothing left for me to do outside of raids, and I was very bored of farming fungi tunics. (Which is where I received the bad reputation from, it's almost impossible to lock down a camp like that all the time and not be hated for it)

I feel like Detoxx let swiftyfist in because he felt bad that everyone essentially hated on him because he sounded like an idiot.... come to find out he was an idiot. Remember the time he said he needed the piece for his clerics epic on a guild chardok clear and he sold the MQ like 2 days later? LMAO

Teraclon.... you know why tf teraclon wasn't let in. WHO CALLS CHEANNA A BITCH? SHE'S A FUCKIN SAINT... also it's a little different when someone gets booted out of a guild vs applies for the first time. Teraclon legit had beef with just about every single officer in the guild. Hot headed ass frenchie was pretty nasty in VP though.

WTS Name: Teraclown pst

Yea my point was that guilds often circumvent their recruitment processes. Riot wasn't unique in doing it. It's never a good thing though, just an illusion of democracy over a dictatorship. For example I could easily pass a VQ vote but my app would never be taken in. Again, hypocrisy... to be mad about unilateral application decisions and then turn around and do the exact same thing

[Twochain]

Yea my point was that guilds often circumvent their recruitment processes. Riot wasn't unique in doing it. It's never a good thing though, just an illusion of democracy over a dictatorship. For example I could easily pass a VQ vote but my app would never be taken in. Again, hypocrisy... to be mad about unilateral application decisions and then turn around and do the exact same thing

I disagree, first of all, the only people who were blacklisted from guilds, that I ever heard of, were people who blatantly trained and got booted. I think A/A Had an agreement that if one guild booted somebody because of a raid dispute (Riptoes style), that the other guild would not allow them to app. Other than that, even Siryado had a chance in AM. Literally everyone could get a chance. At the end of the day there, if AM had beaten Riot, and Riot died, Arcler and friends would DEFINITELY be allowed to apply. Kelz was the most hated person in AM days, there were lots of flames and name calling there. Then kelz was allowed to app AM, and he became loved. Here's another example. Detoxx thought Fur was a cheater ETC ETC. Detoxx probably called Fur every name in the book while AM was dying. Come to find out, he wasn't cheating, he just practiced. In literally no time at all, Detoxx and Fur went from hated enemies to being in the same guild together in WoW, to becoming friends, and ultimately making Freedom.


Now Vanquish is a different guild than Aftermath. However at the end of the day, I can't imagine you wouldn't be allowed to app (Even though you vowed to never join Vanquish) because of some shit slinging on RnF. It's not that deep. Arcler probably isn't allowed to app though lmao


Now speaking of Application processes.... When Ghxst finally kicked the bucket, I applied to Riot. I had a nice interview with a recruitment officer which turned into like a 2 hour chat about raiding on p99 and old war stories. She was really cool. Name is slipping me though, maybe she was German? Anywho, after that interview, I was told that I needed not one but TWO people to vouch for me before I could even formally apply to the guild. Not only that, but people couldn't vouch for more than one recruit at the same time.

At the time, I wasn't playing p99 much. I knew I had old AM friends in Riot, but WHO? Who even still played? I spent some time /who riot all, not recognizing anyone, asked the recruitment officer if I could have a list of their raiders to see who I could even ask, and the people that I WAS seeing and recognizing were already "Vouches" for other people.

I mean here I was, an Abashi monk with a laundry list of 60 toons I could play, I'm good at the game, I don't cause trouble, and have been a raider on the server for 4 years at this point, know what to do in just about every raid encounter on every class, have been told that I am funny, and I need two vouches to even apply???

That, my friend, was the most grueling application process for a guild i'd ever encountered. And certainly the highest bar to apply to a guild on p99 that I have ever personally seen, Maybe Rampage or TMO was worse, but I wasn't really around the raid scene than. Thankfully, 3 or 4 days later, Detoxx hit me with the "Yo ride with me one last time". Because I was at a loss, and had very little motivation to seek out people who would vouch for me to kill uncontested dragons.

So no, I disagree. AM's application process was as fair and unbiased as possible. We raided in AM for years and the only two people to come up with were Swiftyfist and Teraclon... out of what, 1000+?? And the controversy with swiftyfist was that he was LET IN. And Teraclon was already in AM for years before he was booted. Also two terrible examples to hang that flag on and you know this =P

[Nexii]

Teraclon was not a bad example. Why string someone for 30 days on a re-app only to uniliterally deny them, no matter what the vote was saying

Can't always say leadership is right cause they're not, it was a shitty thing to do

[Ripqozko]

Riot would never give me a shot to app cause they take rnf shit talking serious.

Vanquish would, ez choice.

[Arvan]

Wow siryado... i had the unfortunate privilege of meeting that pile of garbage a few times at shady and angry goblin. Hopefully no guild would ever accept his app these days.

[remen]

Wow siryado... i had the unfortunate privilege of meeting that pile of garbage a few times at shady and angry goblin. Hopefully no guild would ever accept his app these days.

I had forgotten about that scam artist. If there is anything that all the guilds can find some common ground on, it's that he is the worst.

[Croco]

Riot would never give me a shot to app cause they take rnf shit talking serious.

Vanquish would, ez choice.

please join trainquish, would love to see how that plays out when you start annoying the shit out of them in guildchat

[Dugface]

Riot would never give me a shot to app cause they take rnf shit talking serious.

Vanquish would, ez choice.

Sorry you're a cunt. Hope that helps.

[Kaezyr D`Shiv]

...Now speaking of Application processes.... When Ghxst finally kicked the bucket, I applied to Riot. I had a nice interview with a recruitment officer which turned into like a 2 hour chat about raiding on p99 and old war stories. She was really cool. Name is slipping me though, maybe she was German? Anywho, after that interview, I was told that I needed not one but TWO people to vouch for me before I could even formally apply to the guild. Not only that, but people couldn't vouch for more than one recruit at the same time.

At the time, I wasn't playing p99 much. I knew I had old AM friends in Riot, but WHO? Who even still played? I spent some time /who riot all, not recognizing anyone, asked the recruitment officer if I could have a list of their raiders to see who I could even ask, and the people that I WAS seeing and recognizing were already "Vouches" for other people.

I mean here I was, an Abashi monk with a laundry list of 60 toons I could play, I'm good at the game, I don't cause trouble, and have been a raider on the server for 4 years at this point, know what to do in just about every raid encounter on every class, have been told that I am funny, and I need two vouches to even apply???

That, my friend, was the most grueling application process for a guild i'd ever encountered. And certainly the highest bar to apply to a guild on p99 that I have ever personally seen, Maybe Rampage or TMO was worse, but I wasn't really around the raid scene than. Thankfully, 3 or 4 days later, Detoxx hit me with the "Yo ride with me one last time". Because I was at a loss, and had very little motivation to seek out people who would vouch for me to kill uncontested dragons.

So no, I disagree. AM's application process was as fair and unbiased as possible. We raided in AM for years and the only two people to come up with were Swiftyfist and Teraclon... out of what, 1000+?? And the controversy with swiftyfist was that he was LET IN. And Teraclon was already in AM for years before he was booted. Also two terrible examples to hang that flag on and you know this =P

I would just like to jump in here and say that I believe we found the "error of our ways" in this recruitment process and state that no longer are you required to have any sponsors like this. It was quickly realized that it was not working, and for exactly the reasons that you state, members couldn't sponsor if they already sponsored someone currently. We tried it and it didn't work out. I personally feel like we have evolved to a recruitment process that works much better now.

P.S and that German girl was most likely Iris(ana), she is great isn't she!

[Terrok]

“I mean I'm just trying to drag more mobs, if they have more than 4 on them, I just try to drag them away from them and kite them towards their CT ‘cause why not.”

How do you train someone on a named, that calls all the other mobs in the zone? That is a great video of you guys abusing the mechanics of the game, because you guys are so good at cheating. Your Leaders post video's of them trying to kill pets to hinder riots engages. How do you have so much hate for riot, when half your guild was riot.

And Furor either acted alone and boxed when he trained riot on loststalker or Someone else helped him. GM's said he acted alone. That is the information we are going off of. Again your leaders breaking the rules. How does getting pixels mean so much to you guys that you have to cheat to get them?

If you guys could handle the truth, you wouldn't be playing P99 in the first place.

[Samoht]

How do you train someone on a named, that calls all the other mobs in the zone? That is a great video of you guys abusing the mechanics of the game, because you guys are so good at cheating. Your Leaders post video's of them trying to kill pets to hinder riots engages. How do you have so much hate for riot, when half your guild was riot.

You out aggro the kiters and then cause them to get killed? Video demonstrates it very well. Way to show you don't understand the mechanics, though. Seems to be a theme because Riot keeps petitioning things where it's clear they have no idea what's going on. If you can't beat'em, accuse'em of cheating!

And Furor either acted alone and boxed when he trained riot on loststalker or Someone else helped him. GM's said he acted alone. That is the information we are going off of. Again your leaders breaking the rules. How does getting pixels mean so much to you guys that you have to cheat to get them?

Blood from a stone. A punishment was decided by the server staff, and the punishment was served. If you don't like it, leave the server.

[Robot]

I disagree, first of all, the only people who were blacklisted from guilds, that I ever heard of, were people who blatantly trained and got booted. I think A/A Had an agreement that if one guild booted somebody because of a raid dispute (Riptoes style), that the other guild would not allow them to app. Other than that, even Siryado had a chance in AM. Literally everyone could get a chance. At the end of the day there, if AM had beaten Riot, and Riot died, Arcler and friends would DEFINITELY be allowed to apply. Kelz was the most hated person in AM days, there were lots of flames and name calling there. Then kelz was allowed to app AM, and he became loved. Here's another example. Detoxx thought Fur was a cheater ETC ETC. Detoxx probably called Fur every name in the book while AM was dying. Come to find out, he wasn't cheating, he just practiced. In literally no time at all, Detoxx and Fur went from hated enemies to being in the same guild together in WoW, to becoming friends, and ultimately making Freedom.

Haha was reading this and was about to immediately call bullshit on ya then finished the paragraph. I'm pretty sure kelzaraz and furoar was the center of quite a few AM petitions when I was in AW, and then ended up in one of the AM iterations not long after AW died. Kelz was the fucking man. He took the game a bit serious but I lost count of how many targets he single handedly won for AW in the A/A days. I can only imagine the amount rage he caused in AM guildchat/discord. When I heard they both went to AM/freedom or whatever it was I knew the raid scene was over for a while as having all the best FTE'ers in one guild wasn't going to be contested by any other raiding entity anytime soon.

[greasemonk]

If you guys could handle the truth, you wouldn't be playing P99 in the first place.

The truth is nobody should be playing P99.

All you mother fuckers need Jesus.

[Nutsax]

You out aggro the kiters and then cause them to get killed? Video demonstrates it very well. Way to show you don't understand the mechanics, though.

Says the imbecile that doesn't understand how FD works.

[Ennewi]

Blood from a stone.

https://www.bbc.com/news/science-environment-33067582

Also, this expression falls flat when arguing over a game where players can get mana from one stone and conjure corpse from another.

A punishment was decided by the server staff, and the punishment was served.

Eh, mostly circumvented.

If you don't like it, leave the server.

x2bOXQibamM

[Tunabros]

you motherfuckers need jesus

[Samoht]

Says the imbecile that doesn't understand how FD works.

Nobody still knows what you're talking about here. Yourself included.

[Nutsax]

Nobody still knows what you're talking about here. Yourself included.

I am aware that it doesn't take a lot for you to not understand what is going on.

Do you still believe that when FD is broken by an AE that makes a monk stand?

[Twochain]

I am aware that it doesn't take a lot for you to not understand what is going on.

Do you still believe that when FD is broken by an AE that makes a monk stand?


Visually i feel like it does sometimes. You've never seen a fraps where someone gets AE'd and it looks like they stand and walk in place?

Am I making this up? That's definitely a thing right?

[Nutsax]

Visually i feel like it does sometimes. You've never seen a fraps where someone gets AE'd and it looks like they stand and walk in place?

Am I making this up? That's definitely a thing right?

Was I asking you?

A broken FD and standing are two different things, although the appear to be the same they are very different. Ever try to run after a broken FD? The simpleton lecturing others on game mechanics doesn't understand this basic one.

[Samoht]

So this is the mechanic you thought you were holding against me when you insisted that I didn't understand it but you wouldn't tell me what I didn't understand?

That when your FD gets broken by an AE you have to stand up?

If you don't stand up, how else would you move or FD again? /boggle

Did you think you didn't have to stand to FD again?

[Twochain]

So this is the mechanic you thought you were holding against me when you insisted that I didn't understand it but you wouldn't tell me what I didn't understand?

That when your FD gets broken by an AE you have to stand up?

If you don't stand up, how else would you move or FD again? /boggle

Did you think you didn't have to stand to FD again?

You actually do not have to stand to FD again, u can just press it again while on the ground and it works. It's a glitch but has been like that forever. If you fail FD and dont stand back up, same thing, you can just press teh button when it comes up and it works

[Samoht]

You actually do not have to stand to FD again, u can just press it again while on the ground and it works. It's a glitch but has been like that forever. If you fail FD and dont stand back up, same thing, you can just press teh button when it comes up and it works

It was a necro in the video...

[Twochain]

It was a necro in the video...

lmao oh shit we're still talking about that?

[Samoht]

Yeah, before the actual evidence was posted, riot and kittens had a lot of videos that show mobs come into camp and klaz gets hit by the ae then stands up to recast FD.

I said that the ae broke fd and made him stand up.

Since then, riot trolls have responded to all my posts saying that I don't know how FD works. They would never tell me what was wrong with my understanding.

Seeing his responses in this thread now though makes me think HE doesn't know how FD works. He seems to think necro FD works like monks. Necros still gotta stand up to recast.

[Reddarok]

Well, George Clooney, until we as a server see you address this at an award show, we will have to assume you don't understand FD. I think a #1 movie and speech at the Oscars will satisfy the server.

[Solist]

You actually do not have to stand to FD again, u can just press it again while on the ground and it works. It's a glitch but has been like that forever. If you fail FD and dont stand back up, same thing, you can just press teh button when it comes up and it works


P99 is so classically well coded, that you can chain FD's on the ground as a monk, cumulatively memblurring everything with you on the hate list.

But a fail while FD during those successive clicks reaggro's everything like the first never happenned. It's bizarre.

[MaCtastic]

lmao oh shit we're still talking about that?

It's groundhog day up in here, of course they are.

[Nutsax]

Well, George Clooney, until we as a server see you address this at an award show, we will have to assume you don't understand FD. I think a #1 movie and speech at the Oscars will satisfy the server.

Georgie boy believes Riot trained the necro who ran past their raid at doubles and flopped, got ae'd by the mobs he brought and was the 1st standing character to die. LOL

[Nutsax]

Yeah, before the actual evidence was posted, riot and kittens had a lot of videos that show mobs come into camp and klaz gets hit by the ae then stands up to recast FD.

I said that the ae broke fd and made him stand up.

Since then, riot trolls have responded to all my posts saying that I don't know how FD works. They would never tell me what was wrong with my understanding.

Seeing his responses in this thread now though makes me think HE doesn't know how FD works. He seems to think necro FD works like monks. Necros still gotta stand up to recast.

You still do not know how FD works, even after it has been explained to you. LOL

[Samoht]

It was a necro, not a monk. Necro has to stand before you can cast. It's unfortunate this has to be explained to you multiple times. Mechanics may be similar, but the requirement to cast makes them distinctively different.

[Nutsax]

It was a necro, not a monk. Necro has to stand before you can cast. It's unfortunate this has to be explained to you multiple times. Mechanics may be similar, but the requirement to cast makes them distinctively different.

You still do not know the mechanics, when an ae hits any fd class they don't stand you turnip.

[Samoht]

It makes you stand up before you can cast.

It's a necro, not a monk. He cannot FD again before he stands up.

[tyrant49333]

Was just really fun watching riot not know how to pull KDT

[Croco]

Was just really fun watching riot not know how to pull KDT

You mean after multiple trainquish put agro into it when it wasn't their fte and instead of gating out or dying they tried to leash it so they could steal the fte? Yeah I'm sure you had a blast watching cheaters do their thing.

[Nutsax]

You mean after multiple trainquish put agro into it when it wasn't their fte and instead of gating out or dying they tried to leash it so they could steal the fte? Yeah I'm sure you had a blast watching cheaters do their thing.

That's their MO, cheat and then gaslight when called out.

[remen]

You mean after multiple trainquish put agro into it when it wasn't their fte and instead of gating out or dying they tried to leash it so they could steal the fte? Yeah I'm sure you had a blast watching cheaters do their thing.

That's their MO, cheat and then gaslight when called out.

Fraps? Because it's Criot's MO to lie and make excuses when they play like trash.

[Ripqozko]

Imagine KDT drama in year 2021 of our lord . Hope that helps .

[Nutsax]

Fraps? Because it's Criot's MO to lie and make excuses when they play like trash.

Fraps or it didn't happen is a refuge for imbeciles.
You have been getting away with dirty play for so long you convince yourselves there will no repercussions, we shall see.

[Swish]

Fraps? Because it's Criot's MO to lie and make excuses when they play like trash.

Are people really lying on the internet?

[Croco]

Fraps? Because it's Criot's MO to lie and make excuses when they play like trash.

Oh don't worry there are fraps from multiple people and I'm sure at least one person is going to enjoy a 7 day pnp vacation.

Classic trainquish, it's only a violation if you catch us.

[Zekayy]

ah good old Dramaquest

[Samoht]

Oh don't worry there are fraps from multiple people and I'm sure at least one person is going to enjoy a 7 day pnp vacation.

Classic trainquish, it's only a violation if you catch us.

Make sure you clip the fraps so that it doesn't include yall kiting KDT everywhere in Kael except for your camp.

[remen]

Oh don't worry there are fraps from multiple people and I'm sure at least one person is going to enjoy a 7 day pnp vacation.

Classic trainquish, it's only a violation if you catch us.

I'm not saying it didn't happen, I wasn't there. What I am saying is that you can't take a guild known for crying wolf at their word. Do you seriously expect us to believe you, just because you say so? Did you actually see anything happen yourself, or are parroting what you've been told by other Criot players?

[Tunabros]

drugs

[Nutsax]

I'm not saying it didn't happen, I wasn't there. What I am saying is that you can't take a guild known for crying wolf at their word. Do you seriously expect us to believe you, just because you say so? Did you actually see anything happen yourself, or are parroting what you've been told by other Criot players?

Turds claiming cry wolf is part of Trainquish's MO.

[remen]

Turds claiming cry wolf is part of Trainquish's MO.

Because it's accurate

[Croco]

It's never accurate. We're just sore winners and sore losers and massive cheaters.

[Samoht]

Riot likes to make shit up about how they're victims when they don't win because they can't take the L

Yeah they do

[tyrant49333]

You mean after multiple trainquish put agro into it when it wasn't their fte and instead of gating out or dying they tried to leash it so they could steal the fte? Yeah I'm sure you had a blast watching cheaters do their thing.

HAHAHAH

You literally kited it into the arena because no one tagged it and died to your train

Love the spin. Must be really hard emotionally to suck this bad

[Reddarok]

Staff should ban all you over invested persons. I hate you all...

[Croco]

HAHAHAH

You literally kited it into the arena because no one tagged it and died to your train

Love the spin. Must be really hard emotionally to suck this bad

Pulling it to the arena was the plan. But you have no idea what you're talking about so you spew shit out of your mouth because you can't help yourself. You're drunk Beef, go sleep it off.

[Ripqozko]

Autism

[tyrant49333]

Pulling it to the arena was the plan. But you have no idea what you're talking about so you spew shit out of your mouth because you can't help yourself. You're drunk Beef, go sleep it off.

Looked a solid plan. Execution was flawless. Let me guess, you were in charge of it :D glad you're in riot and not in my guild

[Croco]

Looked a solid plan. Execution was flawless. Let me guess, you were in charge of it :D glad you're in riot and not in my guild

Would've worked great without all the trainquish interference. Not that I'm surprised. You guys have a habit of putting agro into other guilds FTE's and trying to get them to leash so you can steal the mob.

[Samoht]

Riot likes to make shit up about how they're victims when they don't win because they can't take the L

Troof

[Croco]

More lies because that's all I know how to post.

[Detoxx]

Would've worked great without all the trainquish interference. Not that I'm surprised. You guys have a habit of putting agro into other guilds FTE's and trying to get them to leash so you can steal the mob.
Lol so far Riot is the only guild to do these things:

1. Directly interfere with another guilds engage but dispelling a slowable mob in an attempt to wipe them not once, but twice (Zlandicar and Statue. Cant remember who dispelled Statue but, still in Riot).

2. Directly train another guilds attempt on Trakanon with an eyeball in hopes of not getting caught but getting caught anyways. (Herpaderp Yankovich doesnt know how mechanics work after years on the server and leading a "raiding" guild. Still in Riot).

3. Intentionally cast Celerity on Vanquishes members who where going out to SoW for kiting guards on a Vulak engage in hopes of them getting smoked for thinking they had SoW but instead had Celerity (Aagent, still in Riot).

4. Intentionally try to disrupt CH Chains in hopes of causing a wipe. This has happened many times with nearly no response from Riot other than "Oh well". (Tekka, still in Riot)

5. Claims of bias from a GM when there are no current Vanquish members on staff having input on raid decisions while Blistig, who is Wigging from Riot, who is currently still in the raid scene, will have input on raid disputes. Lets not forget that Wigging, at one point, was a speaker for Riot in the UN and there is no chance he will not have a bias.

You know what Vanquish doesnt do? Any of those things listed above that are truly toxic.

Keep up the hyperbole and false narratives to make us look like the cheaters when these 5 bullet points above are indisputable facts and examples of your guild cheating.

[Samoht]

Keep up the hyperbole and false narratives to make us look like the cheaters when these 5 bullet points above are indisputable facts and examples of your guild cheating.

Don't forget about the Dain lull pull.

[Nutsax]

5. Claims of bias from a GM when there are no current Vanquish members :confused::confused: on staff having input on raid decisions while Blistig, who is Wigging from Riot, who is currently still in the raid scene, will have input on raid disputes. Lets not forget that Wigging, at one point, was a speaker for Riot in the UN and there is no chance he will not have a bias.
No current Vanquish members?
Who is the former Vanquish member?

[Viscere]

I don't play rn but riot seems to get crushed like sasha grey on tour in nigeria

What's going on there atm ?

[Toxigen]

PZtxBZ9D5sI

[Nutsax]

5. Claims of bias from a GM when there are no current Vanquish members on staff having input on raid decisions

Who is the former member?

[xdrcfrx]

member this gem?

Originally Posted by Hotel View Post
our guild leader has direct line to gm

we literally can't lose lol

imagine your predicament

guess having a connection to GM's wasn't so problematic when it was Freedom who had a "direct line to the gm."

yet another double standard, brought to you by the "training isn't cheating" crowd.