It's official: Riot is done.

[SantagarBrax]

2)*

[Nutsax]

I'm going to point out some things that my be able to help you guys succeed more in the raid scene.

1) Riot is too complacent in their old zerg mentality of clearing mobs one by one to the target and won't adapt. In addition, old play makers are retired/afk/Green/etc and new playmakers need to emerge. Kittens is knowledgeable on the engages, yet needs more repetition and both guilds need to work together more to become successful.

1) Kriot leadership determines the best thing to do is contest Lady M for over 4hrs, not realizing it's better to pivot to another target and not go down the route of triples madness when more than one guild is there. This is a prime example of poor leadership decisions by wasting everyone's time and willpower while a perfectly uncontested dragon is up (Lord K, Vyemm).

3) Lord Vyemm - Uncontested. Instead of utilizing this time to train and practice in a competitive environment, you guys automatically revert to pulling solo and clearing the old fashioned and unsuccessful way. Sure, you got the kill. Did it benefit you guys in any way or did you learn anything from it? No, you did not.

If these simple leadership problems are addressed, and you guys actually practice competitive engagement practices, I firmly believe you can climb back into the winning column and boost morale overall.

And what would you do about the blatant cheating?

[ArbiterBlixen]

And what would you do about the blatant cheating?

Have you tried crying about it? lol jk

[Nutsax]

Have you tried crying about it? lol jk

No I don't take this game seriously, I just hate cheaters.

[Ripqozko]

No I don't take this game seriously, I just hate cheaters.

You have replied to this thread like 30x that qualifies you as taking it serious, hope that helps.

[Nutsax]

You have replied to this thread like 30x that qualifies you as taking it serious, hope that helps.

You conflate replying to cheaters with taking a game seriously, they aren't mutually inclusive.

[Ripqozko]

You conflate replying to cheaters with taking a game seriously, they aren't mutually inclusive.

it is when you reply over and over and over and over. thats called taking it serious. hope that helps.

[Argh]

Please explain how you think a foot racing python script works

[Nutsax]

There is no way u can script those races

How would you know if you haven't tried?

[SantagarBrax]

And what would you do about the blatant cheating?

Don't continue to make excuses and not address the root problem.

Man Up

[Nutsax]

Don't continue to make excuses and not address the root problem.

Man Up

The root problem of cheating needs to be addressed by the GMs, I cant stop a handful of Trainquish from cheating.

[remen]

The root problem of cheating needs to be addressed by the GMs, I cant stop a handful of Trainquish from cheating.

Imagine getting beat so badly on such a regular basis that you start assuming it must be because the other side is cheating. The GMs have looked into it and found nothing, because there is nothing. Try playing better.

[remen]

Please explain how you think a foot racing python script works

This question makes too much sense, I guarantee he won't address it or won't answer it.

[Nutsax]

This question makes too much sense, I guarantee he won't address it or won't answer it.

Of course it makes sense to you, you struggle with middle school reading comprehension.

First not knowing how to do a thing does not mean you can't recognize when a thing is happening. This is a false equivalency.(Duhtoxx take note, this is a proper example of a false equivalency, unlike your moronic claim.)

Second Duhtoxx is a much better person to ask, since he states "There is no way u can script those races", he has proved a negative and therfore knows all possible ways to script a footrace in Kael and has failed.

[Argh]

So the simple question doesn't make sense to you because you're too smart?

[remen]

Of course it makes sense to you, you struggle with middle school reading comprehension.

First not knowing how to do a thing does not mean you can't recognize when a thing is happening. This is a false equivalency.(Duhtoxx take note, this is a proper example of a false equivalency, unlike your moronic claim.)

Second Duhtoxx is a much better person to ask, since he states "There is no way u can script those races", he has proved a negative and therfore knows all possible ways to script a footrace in Kael and has failed.

He literally just simply asked:
" Originally Posted by Argh View Post
Please explain how you think a foot racing python script works"

You don't even need middle school reading comprehension for that question to make sense. It is a simple and straightforward question. You made the assertion that the race is scripted, Argh is asking you to explain your assertion.

[remen]

So the simple question doesn't make sense to you because you're too smart?

The guy is short on brain cells, that has become increasingly clear to anyone reading this thread / interacting with him.

[SantagarBrax]

The root problem of cheating needs to be addressed by the GMs, I cant stop a handful of Trainquish from cheating.

Pathetic.

[Aadill]

I have a degree in applied Mathematics, how about you?

I think someone switched your degree in applied mathematics with a degree in being a bitch.

[Bellringer]

Of course it makes sense to you, you struggle with middle school reading comprehension.

First not knowing how to do a thing does not mean you can't recognize when a thing is happening. This is a false equivalency.(Duhtoxx take note, this is a proper example of a false equivalency, unlike your moronic claim.)

Second Duhtoxx is a much better person to ask, since he states "There is no way u can script those races", he has proved a negative and therfore knows all possible ways to script a footrace in Kael and has failed.

https://imgur.com/iILvq5y.gif

[Ripqozko]

I think someone switched your degree in applied mathematics with a degree in being a bitch.

Pickle with the mic drop

[Nutsax]

So the simple question doesn't make sense to you because you're too smart?

No, are you related to Remen?

[Detoxx]

Detoxx has a ten year history of liking agreements when his guild is dominating and then suddenly calling for changes to the rules when it is losing. He hated racing when he didn't have Furor. Now I bet he loves it! Why the change of heart?

In this way, he never negotiates in good faith. To expect anything different back is dumb.

And I can tell you don't get it either. Why was the insance Zerg meta something that needed to be overcome? Because AM was losing, duh.

Wrong. Never once did I get racing changed, Ive always liked racing.

[Nutsax]

Originally Posted by Detoxx View Post
There is no way u can script those races

How would you know if you haven't tried?

[Hideousclaw]

I think someone switched your degree in applied mathematics with a degree in being a bitch.

lol

[remen]

No, are you related to Remen?

Another deflection to avoid answering a simple question. This guy is really dumb, for real. This is gonna be my last interaction with you because it is hurting my brain.

I'll leave you with some advice...follow the timeless adage "Better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to speak out and remove all doubt".

[hobart]

Wrong. Never once did I get racing changed, Ive always liked racing.

No, you just tried to get AGs cheater banned. What was his name again?

[Nutsax]

Another deflection to avoid answering a simple question. This guy is really dumb, for real. This is gonna be my last interaction with you because it is hurting my brain.

I'll leave you with some advice...follow the timeless adage "Better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to speak out and remove all doubt".

Good luck to you, I feel bad that I made your brain hurt, maybe you should get that checked out.

[tankh]

Quote:
Originally Posted by Detoxx View Post
There is no way u can script those races

How would you know if you haven't tried?

I would suspect his statement is no longer true………../em opens the can of worms and points at the elephant in the room.

[remen]

Quote:
Originally Posted by Detoxx View Post
There is no way u can script those races



I would suspect his statement is no longer true………../em opens the can of worms and points at the elephant in the room.

Thank you for posting about your suspicions! I suspect you are as dumb as nutsax. /em opens a new can of worms and elefants and rooms

[tankh]

Thank you for posting about your suspicions! I suspect you are as dumb as nutsax. /em opens a new can of worms and elefants and rooms

VQ racer this week in kael, enough said , 0.03 sec reaction after 900 roll. Yeah no scripting :rolleyes:

I mean it’s not like VQ would ever cheat right ?

[Grumph]

VQ racer this week in kael, enough said , 0.03 sec reaction after 900 roll. Yeah no scripting :rolleyes:

I mean it’s not like VQ would ever cheat right ?


Like by Lull pulling Dain cheating?

Or spaming Ooc with false CH macros cheating?

[apathe]

Please explain how you think a foot racing python script works
Wouldn't it be the same as a COTHing script, except instead of hiting a COTH hotkey it hits an autorun or gives a command to hold the strafe key? Not trying to claim someone is cheating races, just honestly curious.

[tankh]

Like by Lull pulling Dain cheating?

Or spaming Ooc with false CH macros cheating?

This guy is such a thick cunt,

You know who started with lull pulls ?
You know VQ don’t own ooc? Although anyone that messes with a clerics chain is a dick.

You really should shut the fuck up, I don’t know how many times I have to say you are thick as shit.

Come back when you have some valid points

[Nibblewitz]

No need to be angry; you get some tov scraps every three weeks.

[mycoolrausch]

If only everyone could come up with the genius idea

to join the guild getting the most pixels.

[tankh]

No need to be angry; you get some tov scraps every three weeks.

O look another moron with a keyboard

[ArbiterBlixen]

VQ racer this week in kael, enough said , 0.03 sec reaction after 900 roll. Yeah no scripting :rolleyes:

I mean it’s not like VQ would ever cheat right ?

How are You measuring .03 seconds?

[tankh]

How are You measuring .03 seconds?

Fraps and timers it is what us nerds do :)

[tyrant49333]

Who got tunare? I didn't see - were they scripting ? Please tell us

[Nutsax]

How are You measuring .03 seconds?

You could also ask Duhtoxx, he would know.

[tankh]

Who got tunare? I didn't see - were they scripting ? Please tell us

Wasn’t at tunare are so don’t know.

[ArbiterBlixen]

Does a video showing .03 seconds exist? Or is this a made up number. I’d like to see it if you have one.

[Nutsax]

Does a video showing .03 seconds exist? Or is this a made up number. I’d like to see it if you have one.

Wow I wish GM's would take this much interest.

[ArbiterBlixen]

Wow I wish GM's would take this much interest.

I don’t think it would prove anything as .03 is well within the range of human reaction. But it would still be newt to see.

[tankh]

I don’t think it would prove anything as .03 is well within the range of human reaction. But it would still be newt to see.

.03 “well witching human reaction time” we are not guiness world record holders we are 40+ year old nerds that drink to much and smoke to much I doubt anyone on p99 could get this speed.

As for sharing fraps, I’m not a grass

[ArbiterBlixen]

.03 “well witching human reaction time” we are not guiness world record holders we are 40+ year old nerds that drink to much and smoke to much I doubt anyone on p99 could get this speed.

As for sharing fraps, I’m not a grass

Whoops, yeah you’re right. I mean if you have footage of .03 it would indeed prove it.

[Croco]

3 tenths of a second is .3, not .03, people are bungling the decimal point

[hobart]

If only everyone could come up with the genius idea

to join the guild getting the most pixels.

If you're playing this game for the pixels, you're doing it wrong.

There are a good chunk of cool people in both Vanquish and Riot. But Vanquish, for me personally, seems to have close to a monopoly on the people who I would not want to play with.

[tankh]

If you're playing this game for the pixels, you're doing it wrong.

There are a good chunk of cool people in both Vanquish and Riot. But Vanquish, for me personally, seems to have close to a monopoly on the people who I would not want to play with.

This is probably the most accurate statement ever posted on these forums.

[Wokka]

VQ racer this week in kael, enough said , 0.03 sec reaction after 900 roll. Yeah no scripting :rolleyes:

I mean it’s not like VQ would ever cheat right ?

Produce your evidence, otherwise it will be filed under bullshit narrative pushing. Like the guy who claimed people were trained and when requesting rez's were told to fuck off. The screenshot showed that wasn't the case at all.

[Grumph]

3 tenths of a second is .3, not .03, people are bungling the decimal point


Remember when that burger joint went outa business trying to sell 1/3 lb burgers cheaper than McDonald’s 1/4 ers?

…polls showed customers believed a quarter pounder was bigger than a third.

[Samoht]

You know who started with lull pulls ?

Somebody started it, sure, and that's why sirken ruled that it's against the spirit of the rule for footraces and made outlawed the use of lull pulling.

Then Riot tried using it on dain, got caught, and they started posturing like it was never against the rules.

If you're playing this game for the pixels, you're doing it wrong.

I guess that's a good enough reason to justify staying with Riot, right? It can't be because of the sunk cost fallacy and you thinking you're going to get to eventually spend your DKP before you actually guild quit.

What did Riot get this cycle? Eashen, some HoT minis, fear minis, and a couple ST mobs? Did they even drop primal?

That's just a pitiful existence if I've ever seen one. The guild wouldn't be able to survive if they were playing for pixels.

[hobart]

Somebody started it, sure, and that's why sirken ruled that it's against the spirit of the rule for footraces and made outlawed the use of lull pulling.

Then Riot tried using it on dain, got caught, and they started posturing like it was never against the rules.



I guess that's a good enough reason to justify staying with Riot, right? It can't be because of the sunk cost fallacy and you thinking you're going to get to eventually spend your DKP before you actually guild quit.

What did Riot get this cycle? Eashen, some HoT minis, fear minis, and a couple ST mobs? Did they even drop primal?

That's just a pitiful existence if I've ever seen one. The guild wouldn't be able to survive if they were playing for pixels.

Translation: My pixel addiction is so bad and my real life so sad that I'm willing to spend my leisure time with people I don't like.

I'm not in Riot you turd. You miss the point entirely.

[ArbiterBlixen]

Translation: My pixel addiction is so bad and my real life so sad that I'm willing to spend my leisure time with people I don't like.

I'm not in Riot you turd. You miss the point entirely.

Don't think he missed the point. A person in your guild wouldn't be playing for pixels either.

[hobart]

Don't think he missed the point. A person in your guild wouldn't be playing for pixels either.

I'm not in Riot you turd.

[tankh]

Produce your evidence, otherwise it will be filed under bullshit narrative pushing. Like the guy who claimed people were trained and when requesting rez's were told to fuck off. The screenshot showed that wasn't the case at all.

Go sit in kael for yourself knob head, it doesn’t take a brain surgeon to find out who was racing for kael this week.

DYOR

[SantagarBrax]

If you're playing this game for the pixels, you're doing it wrong.

There are a good chunk of cool people in both Vanquish and Riot. But Vanquish, for me personally, seems to have close to a monopoly on the people who I would not want to play with.

I concur with your first statement, I don't with your second. Having been in both guilds, I'll take Vanquish any day over Riot.

The amount of soakers in Riot alone is enough of a reason, notwithstanding the constant self-righteous, whinging, and holier than thou members always acting like their shit doesn't stink. The second most important reason would be the differences in leadership styles. V Leadership is adaptive, immensely competitive (even amongst themselves), and innovative. R leadership is slow, cumbersome, lacking in accountability and the will / hunger to win...they've grown fat and lazy, so to speak. In addition, they don't like challenges to their preferred method of leadership nor adapt well. The final "big" reason I prefer Vanquish over Riot is simple, the atmosphere. V is laid back, joking around, talking shit, and overall just enjoying the game without worry. R atmosphere is cancel culture, PC police, and speech police on steroids, with a dose of disconnect from each other and what makes the game fun. When it's time to dial in and focus on the win, people will be called out for trying to disrupt the "go-time" mentality in Vanquish. With Riot, it's "meh".

I'm not saying everything in Vanquish is all peaches and cream, but it's a whole lot sweeter and more enjoyable than that turd sandwich that Riot is.

P.S. Don't come over to Vanquish expecting to soak, we will hold you accountable and your feelings be damned. We also don't hold grudges so lighten up when your ass gets chewed and take it for what it's worth, then move on and enjoy the ride. :)

[Samoht]

If anybody in Riot was smart, they'd take their good players and make a new guild with reset DKP so that they don't have to put up with the Arclers.

But do they even have any good players left?

[Doujou]

I thought Riot was dead back in January 2021. I look forward to the "Riot is dead" RNF shit-post in January 2022 too.

I guess we're all technically dying a little each day though, so you aren't totally wrong?

[Mblake1981]

If anybody in Riot was smart, they'd take their good players and make a new guild with reset DKP so that they don't have to put up with the Arclers.

But do they even have any good players left?

Arcler is the new orange man bad.

[mycoolrausch]

I concur with your first statement, I don't with your second. Having been in both guilds, I'll take Vanquish any day over Riot.

The amount of soakers in Riot alone is enough of a reason, notwithstanding the constant self-righteous, whinging, and holier than thou members always acting like their shit doesn't stink. The second most important reason would be the differences in leadership styles. V Leadership is adaptive, immensely competitive (even amongst themselves), and innovative. R leadership is slow, cumbersome, lacking in accountability and the will / hunger to win...they've grown fat and lazy, so to speak. In addition, they don't like challenges to their preferred method of leadership nor adapt well. The final "big" reason I prefer Vanquish over Riot is simple, the atmosphere. V is laid back, joking around, talking shit, and overall just enjoying the game without worry. R atmosphere is cancel culture, PC police, and speech police on steroids, with a dose of disconnect from each other and what makes the game fun. When it's time to dial in and focus on the win, people will be called out for trying to disrupt the "go-time" mentality in Vanquish. With Riot, it's "meh".

I'm not saying everything in Vanquish is all peaches and cream, but it's a whole lot sweeter and more enjoyable than that turd sandwich that Riot is.

P.S. Don't come over to Vanquish expecting to soak, we will hold you accountable and your feelings be damned. We also don't hold grudges so lighten up when your ass gets chewed and take it for what it's worth, then move on and enjoy the ride. :)

Yes 1000x more effort for the arbitrary change of the 10 people leading the guild people join to get pixels.

[hobart]

I concur with your first statement, I don't with your second. Having been in both guilds, I'll take Vanquish any day over Riot.

The amount of soakers in Riot alone is enough of a reason, notwithstanding the constant self-righteous, whinging, and holier than thou members always acting like their shit doesn't stink. The second most important reason would be the differences in leadership styles. V Leadership is adaptive, immensely competitive (even amongst themselves), and innovative. R leadership is slow, cumbersome, lacking in accountability and the will / hunger to win...they've grown fat and lazy, so to speak. In addition, they don't like challenges to their preferred method of leadership nor adapt well. The final "big" reason I prefer Vanquish over Riot is simple, the atmosphere. V is laid back, joking around, talking shit, and overall just enjoying the game without worry. R atmosphere is cancel culture, PC police, and speech police on steroids, with a dose of disconnect from each other and what makes the game fun. When it's time to dial in and focus on the win, people will be called out for trying to disrupt the "go-time" mentality in Vanquish. With Riot, it's "meh".

I'm not saying everything in Vanquish is all peaches and cream, but it's a whole lot sweeter and more enjoyable than that turd sandwich that Riot is.

P.S. Don't come over to Vanquish expecting to soak, we will hold you accountable and your feelings be damned. We also don't hold grudges so lighten up when your ass gets chewed and take it for what it's worth, then move on and enjoy the ride. :)

Almost everything you said about Vanquish relates to acquisition of pixels. Not one thing about how Detoxx or Furor are nice guys and fun to pass the time with.

In my limited interactions with Arcler way back when, he seemed like a nice guy.

As for the "PC" nonsense, if you're saying Vanquish allows members to embarrass themselves with racist, homophobic, religious, or political talk, chalk another point up for Riot.

[ArbiterBlixen]

Almost everything you said about Vanquish relates to acquisition of pixels. Not one thing about how Detoxx or Furor are nice guys and fun to pass the time with.

In my limited interactions with Arcler way back when, he seemed like a nice guy.

As for the "PC" nonsense, if you're saying Vanquish allows members to embarrass themselves with racist, homophobic, religious, or political talk, chalk another point up for Riot.

You'd fit right in with Riot lol. You sound like a nice guy.

[Samoht]

You'd fit right in with Riot lol. You sound like a nice guy.

Yeah, you might fit in well with the petulant children and their whiny man child leader that literally cries to the GMs in discord to get his way.

[ArbiterBlixen]

I thought Riot was dead back in January 2021. I look forward to the "Riot is dead" RNF shit-post in January 2022 too.

I guess we're all technically dying a little each day though, so you aren't totally wrong?

Huh? Riot killed Eashen, 2 ST golems and Vox this cycle. If you don't call that dead sure wait till January 2022.

[sydbarrett25]

I concur with your first statement, I don't with your second. Having been in both guilds, I'll take Vanquish any day over Riot.

The amount of soakers in Riot alone is enough of a reason, notwithstanding the constant self-righteous, whinging, and holier than thou members always acting like their shit doesn't stink. The second most important reason would be the differences in leadership styles. V Leadership is adaptive, immensely competitive (even amongst themselves), and innovative. R leadership is slow, cumbersome, lacking in accountability and the will / hunger to win...they've grown fat and lazy, so to speak. In addition, they don't like challenges to their preferred method of leadership nor adapt well. The final "big" reason I prefer Vanquish over Riot is simple, the atmosphere. V is laid back, joking around, talking shit, and overall just enjoying the game without worry. R atmosphere is cancel culture, PC police, and speech police on steroids, with a dose of disconnect from each other and what makes the game fun. When it's time to dial in and focus on the win, people will be called out for trying to disrupt the "go-time" mentality in Vanquish. With Riot, it's "meh".

I'm not saying everything in Vanquish is all peaches and cream, but it's a whole lot sweeter and more enjoyable than that turd sandwich that Riot is.

P.S. Don't come over to Vanquish expecting to soak, we will hold you accountable and your feelings be damned. We also don't hold grudges so lighten up when your ass gets chewed and take it for what it's worth, then move on and enjoy the ride. :)

I mean, I agree vanquish is doing well and has really good FTE’rs. But when you compare leadership, furoar is a known two boxer who trained another guild.

[ArbiterBlixen]

I mean, I agree vanquish is doing well and has really good FTE’rs. But when you compare leadership, furoar is a known two boxer who trained another guild.

Within the scope of this game I guess that's bad. But, from the scope of everyday life, I couldn't care less about a train that happened a year ago.

[sydbarrett25]

Within the scope of this game I guess that's bad. But, from the scope of everyday life, I couldn't care less about a train that happened a year ago.

Yea I mean, I agree. Like I could give any Fs about it. Thats just a layer of immersion too much for me. Of you need to sabotage another guild of people trying to have fun killing a dragon, like thats how I know its not for me. But im just a random.

[Mblake1981]

Yeah, you might fit in well with the petulant children and their whiny man child leader that literally cries to the GMs in discord to get his way.

sounds terrifying.

[hobart]

You'd fit right in with Riot lol. You sound like a nice guy.

Thank you.

Yeah, you might fit in well with the petulant children and their whiny man child leader that literally cries to the GMs in discord to get his way.

Again, this is all pixel drama. I don't care about any of that. I want to play games with nice people.

Most Vanquish are good guys. They just have bad people in leadership positions and will let in socially retarded scumbags if they think it's going to get them another FTE.

For Riot, character seems to matter. Which is why they turned away Detoxx who is undoubtedly one of the best players on the box.

[Grumph]

Thank you.



Again, this is all pixel drama. I don't care about any of that. I want to play games with nice people.

Most Vanquish are good guys. They just have bad people in leadership positions and will let in socially retarded scumbags if they think it's going to get them another FTE.

For Riot, character seems to matter. Which is why they turned away Detoxx who is undoubtedly one of the best players on the box.

Riot.

Where character matters.

(Except when lull pulling Dain. Spamming Ooc with trojan CH chain macros. Casting celerity to grief someone who needs sow. Or inviting Kittens to their fair share of mobs.)

[Mblake1981]

Most Vanquish are good guys. They just have bad people in leadership positions and will let in socially retarded scumbags if they think it's going to get them another FTE.

For Riot, character seems to matter. Which is why they turned away Detoxx who is undoubtedly one of the best players on the box.

Not the first time A/A has been compared on the boards.

[Samoht]

Riot.

Where character matters.

(Except when lull pulling Dain. Spamming Ooc with trojan CH chain macros. Casting celerity to grief someone who needs sow. Or inviting Kittens to their fair share of mobs.)

And the constant crying.

[Mblake1981]

And the constant crying.

Careful not to become what you claim you hate.

[Mblake1981]

Second thought, go for it George. I am just being a passive aggressive fay gate because I have noticed your crying about others crying. I mean what I am going to do, send mean tweets?

[Grumph]

Second thought, go for it George. I am just being a passive aggressive fay gate because I have noticed your crying about others crying. I mean what I am going to do, send mean tweets?

Mean tweets are out.

Drone striking kids is in.

Get with the times bruv.

[Solist]

Yea I mean, I agree. Like I could give any Fs about it. Thats just a layer of immersion too much for me. Of you need to sabotage another guild of people trying to have fun killing a dragon, like thats how I know its not for me. But im just a random.

I mean, I agree vanquish is doing well and has really good FTE’rs. But when you compare leadership, furoar is a known two boxer who trained another guild.

Why do you think some random train is the be all end all?

It's pretty malign but guilds have been intentionally and accidentally training the living shit out of each other here for a decade.

I could do any of 10 solid actions to destroy riot's ability to raid competitively and none of them involve a pissant train you CR from within mins. A train is literally a nothing issue to either guild. Quick concession, move on with life. If that train actually killed anyone or had ANY EFFECT, there would have been a concession and move on. But it didnt, some mobs moved into north, noone died. Yawn.

Riot has a few members I've watched maliciously train other guilds over the years. Just not fucking stupid enough to do so with a film crew watching.

[Nutsax]

Why do you think some random train is the be all end all?

It's pretty malign but guilds have been intentionally and accidentally training the living shit out of each other here for a decade.

I could do any of 10 solid actions to destroy riot's ability to raid competitively and none of them involve a pissant train you CR from within mins. A train is literally a nothing issue to either guild. Quick concession, move on with life. If that train actually killed anyone or had ANY EFFECT, there would have been a concession and move on. But it didnt, some mobs moved into north, noone died. Yawn.

Riot has a few members I've watched maliciously train other guilds over the years. Just not fucking stupid enough to do so with a film crew watching.

Name one "solid action" that could "destroy riots ability to raid competitively"?
Do you have a ray gun in your mom's basement?

[Mblake1981]

Mean tweets are out.

Drone striking kids is in.

Get with the times bruv.

I already paid the Obama fines. Only a fool walks back in that door.

[Samoht]

Why do you think some random train is the be all end all?

It's pretty malign but guilds have been intentionally and accidentally training the living shit out of each other here for a decade.

I could do any of 10 solid actions to destroy riot's ability to raid competitively and none of them involve a pissant train you CR from within mins. A train is literally a nothing issue to either guild. Quick concession, move on with life. If that train actually killed anyone or had ANY EFFECT, there would have been a concession and move on. But it didnt, some mobs moved into north, noone died. Yawn.

Riot has a few members I've watched maliciously train other guilds over the years. Just not fucking stupid enough to do so with a film crew watching.

Plus, how many times did Riot train Furoar that day before he trained them? Not seeing any demands from them to permaban the Riot trainers. It's an obvious double standard that they're willing to cheat but then they want the competition to pay in blood for doing the same shit they do.

[Arvan]

"I cheat and break the rules constantly - but so do you so it doesn't matter!"

[druidbob]

Plus, how many times did Riot train Furoar that day before he trained them? Not seeing any demands from them to permaban the Riot trainers. It's an obvious double standard that they're willing to cheat but then they want the competition to pay in blood for doing the same shit they do.

No one should be perma banned for training, but the fact is that he was caught multiboxing and THAT is supposed to be a banning offence. Hell, I know people who got harsher punishments for logging in a cleric bot to rez themselves.

[Nutsax]

Plus, how many times did Riot train Furoar that day before he trained them? Not seeing any demands from them to permaban the Riot trainers. It's an obvious double standard that they're willing to cheat but then they want the competition to pay in blood for doing the same shit they do.

0 times.

[Samoht]

"I cheat and break the rules constantly - but so do you so it doesn't matter!"

More like both sides trained, both were punished, but Riot still wants further punishment for some reason.

[Nutsax]

"I cheat and break the rules constantly - but so do you so it doesn't matter!"

They really like pushing this childish narrative.

[Detoxx]

For Riot, character seems to matter. Which is why they turned away Detoxx who is undoubtedly one of the best players on the box.

Lol so far Riot is the only guild to do these things:

1. Directly interfere with another guilds engage but dispelling a slowable mob in an attempt to wipe them not once, but twice (Zlandicar and Statue. Cant remember who dispelled Statue but, still in Riot).

2. Directly train another guilds attempt on Trakanon with an eyeball in hopes of not getting caught but getting caught anyways. (Herpaderp Yankovich doesnt know how mechanics work after years on the server and leading a "raiding" guild. Still in Riot).

3. Intentionally cast Celerity on Vanquishes members who where going out to SoW for kiting guards on a Vulak engage in hopes of them getting smoked for thinking they had SoW but instead had Celerity (Aagent, still in Riot).

4. Intentionally try to disrupt CH Chains in hopes of causing a wipe. This has happened many times with nearly no response from Riot other than "Oh well". (Tekka, still in Riot)

5. Claims of bias from a GM when there are no current Vanquish members on staff having input on raid decisions while Blistig, who is Wigging from Riot, who is currently still in the raid scene, will have input on raid disputes. Lets not forget that Wigging, at one point, was a speaker for Riot in the UN and there is no chance he will not have a bias.

You know what Vanquish doesnt do? Any of those things listed above that are truly toxic.

Some great character this guild has...Furor trained them once after the mob was dead with no intent to actually cheat a win of the mob but all 5 of these things above happening in Riot with full intent to steal the mob cause they were beat.

Thats the antithesis of character

[Nibblewitz]

0 times.

Is that why Riot had to concede so many Koi’s that they lost count?

[Tunabros]

Got the chance to kill Koi and lady N on green the other day

I have to say all this raiding stuff on p99 is pretty fun hah

sorry you guys aren't having fun on blue

rip

[ArbiterBlixen]

"I cheat and break the rules constantly - but so do you so it doesn't matter!"

“You cheat and break the rules constantly - so do I but it doesn’t matter!”

[Nutsax]

Claims of bias from a GM when there are no current Vanquish members on staff having input on raid decisions

Who is the former member of Vanquish on staff?

[Nibblewitz]

Probably the Riot officer that is now a GM.

[Croco]

Some great character this guild has...Furor trained them once after the mob was dead with no intent to actually cheat a win of the mob

Not for lack of trying. He finally got it done the 3rd attempt after koi was dead but he tried very hard to train riot while the engage was active.

with full intent to steal the mob cause they were beat.

Holy gaslighting batman! Talk about false narratives. Doesn't matter how many times a thing is explained to trainquish they'll still push their completely made up lie about what happened.

[Samoht]

Holy gaslighting batman! Talk about false narratives. Doesn't matter how many times a thing is explained to trainquish they'll still push their completely made up lie about what happened.

I mean, why else would you so openly cheat? Dain lull pull, dispelling slow, training at trakanon, interrupting CH chains, intentionally buffing racers using buffs with a similar icon in an attempt to confuse them.

These things happened, no? Who the fuck is lying or pushing false narratives?

You don't dispell slow multiple times and claim they're accidents.

You don't interrupt CH chains constantly and claim they're accidents.

You don't buff several racers from a different guild with celerity as they zone out of Kael when they didn't even ask for it and claim that you weren't trying to trick them into thinking they had SOW instead.

ROFL.

[xdrcfrx]

Some great character this guild has...Furor trained them once after the mob was dead with no intent to actually cheat a win of the mob but all 5 of these things above happening in Riot with full intent to steal the mob cause they were beat.

Thats the antithesis of character

If his trying to train Riot was justified, and deserved: why lie about it to the GM's afterwards? Shouldn't he have been proud to claim credit for his righteous act?

"It's called character...choking on your teeth....etc."

lol.

[Nutsax]

Pro-tip, sow makes you run faster while haste makes you swing faster, this is obvious to good players.

[Horza]

Detoxx lecturing anybody about character is fucking hilarious.

[Bardp1999]

Pro-tip, sow makes you run faster while haste makes you swing faster, this is obvious to good players.

Nice gas-lighting fuck boy

[Croco]

I mean, why else would you so openly cheat? Dain lull pull, dispelling slow, training at trakanon, interrupting CH chains, intentionally buffing racers using buffs with a similar icon in an attempt to confuse them.

These things happened, no? Who the fuck is lying or pushing false narratives?

You don't dispell slow multiple times and claim they're accidents.

You don't interrupt CH chains constantly and claim they're accidents.

You don't buff several racers from a different guild with celerity as they zone out of Kael when they didn't even ask for it and claim that you weren't trying to trick them into thinking they had SOW instead.

ROFL.

Lull pulling isn't cheating. There's no rule against it. The slow dispel on zlandicar was intentional and that person was guild removed immediately. You can't keep harping on it like Riot was completely cool with it or that it's a normal thing that happens all the time because that's a false narrative.

The statue dispel was accidental. It was at the very end when people normally faction tag, and that person had memmed the wrong spell where they usually had a nuke. That person is also someone who is esl so it wasn't readily apparent to them that they fucked up and why it took so long to figure out who/why they did what they did. It was an honest mistake, albeit an annoying one.

The eyeball at trakanon was again a mistake that we already conceded 2 traks for. The person buffing quickness on kiters was disciplined immediately and has never done it again and you all admitted it didn't cause any harm because your people noticed it right away. The interrupting CH chain in ooc while being a dick move is one that's solvable immediately by putting that person on ignore. Takes like 2 seconds and also never caused you all to wipe. You don't even know the story btw it wasn't celerity it was quickness and it wasn't kael it was ToV. Celerity has a bicep/arm icon.

The gaslighting and the false narratives occur when you take these ticky tack things that riot has done in the past (not the zlandi dispel that was obviously garbage and that's why the person was immediately guild removed) and try to draw equivalencies to much worse things that trainquish, and fr/ag before that, has done on purpose. You know what all of those things you listed have in common? They didn't affect your raid at all, you killed all the mobs in question except trak which is why we conceded 2.

There's a reason these are the only things you all keep repeatedly bringing up again and again and just won't drop even though we've served penalties and conceded mobs and guild removed players and it's because that's the only thing you all have to latch onto. We don't do even a quarter of the shady shit you all do and the stuff you do is MUCH worse. Orders of magnitude.

The reason riot and others harp on the loststalker train is not because it was a train, if that was it you probably would rarely hear about it. It's because your self righteous guild leader lied to GM's about it and 2 boxed to achieve his goal of training our raid in tov. Go look at a post by Galach real quick and tell me what his signature is. What the supposed penalty is for 2 boxing. It becomes clear real fast why we keep bringing it up.

I would say you all are too stupid to realize this shit but it's much worse and more nefarious than that. You know exactly what me and others are saying. You understand very clearly and you lie, obfuscate, gaslight, and offer whataboutisms to do anything you can to deflect or outright ignore those issues.

[Nutsax]

Nice gas-lighting fuck boy

You still do not grasp what gaslighting is, perhaps this will help:

"The best way to outsmart a gaslighter is to disengage. You can show up to the discussion with a mountain of evidence, videos, recordings, and more, and a gaslighting person will still find a way to deflect, minimize, or deny. It is more worth it to walk away with your perception intact."

The good news is, none of these Trainquish half-wits can affect my perception.

[Pint]

This thread started 18 days and 60 pages ago. Is it not official? Is conda a fucking liar?

[Samoht]

You still do not grasp what gaslighting is, perhaps this will help:

"The best way to outsmart a gaslighter is to disengage. You can show up to the discussion with a mountain of evidence, videos, recordings, and more, and a gaslighting person will still find a way to deflect, minimize, or deny. It is more worth it to walk away with your perception intact."

The good news is, none of these Trainquish half-wits can affect my perception.

Yall still think lull pulling isn't against the rules despite the ruling being clear as day and no evidence that it was ever rescinded...

Yet you call other people gas lighters. Repeatedly.

Riiigghhhhttt....

[Samoht]

We don't do even a quarter of the shady shit you all do and the stuff you do is MUCH worse. Orders of magnitude.

I'm interested to know what you believe Vanquish has done that is "orders of magnitude" worse than Riot members dispelling Vanquish raid targets during an active engage.

[Croco]

I'm interested to know what you believe Vanquish has done that is "orders of magnitude" worse than Riot members dispelling Vanquish raid targets during an active engage.

You don't argue/debate in good faith so I have no interest in debating you further. You ignore blatant evidence that's put right in front of you that contradicts what you think.

[Samoht]

You don't argue/debate in good faith so I have no interest in debating you further. You ignore blatant evidence that's put right in front of you that contradicts what you think.

Right so you made it up then because feelings.

[slard271]

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What is it with the inane attempts to use this word like you're actually conveying something other than puerile drivel? That's a punt to you, Nutsax, cuz you should really stop trying to sound anything other than mad, bad, and sad.

Obligatory: "Hope that helps." "Yikes." "Seek help."

Did I miss any?

[Naethyn]

Today marked our 20th Statue kill in a row. I wonder what cheats we did to do that? Any idea?

#baglimitkael

Add bag limits to Kael. The one guild monopoly on raid content is the true death of what is fun on this server. Bag limits are more than just charity pixels, they give competition a chance to practice and get better. The one guild monopoly on raid content has historically required server admin intervention and hopefully it doesn't take until 50+ before that happens.

And the very next statue Detoxx and team stop racing hard in Kael.

[Nutsax]

And the very next statue Detoxx and team stop racing hard in Kael.

This is strong circumstantial evidence that they cheat, possibly even stronger than the numbers.
I called Trainquish and Duhtoxx stupid for getting 20 in a row, because math is an unbiased observer and there is only a ~ 1% chance of winning 20 if they normally win 4 out of 5 races.

Winning 30 in a row would change the chance to 1 in 1000. And even though they don't get punished for cheating I expect they will throw a few races, knowing that they are already at a 1% chance and don't want to make appear even more absurd.

[Nutsax]

Lorem ipsum dolor gaslighting sit amet, consectetur adipiscing elit, sed do eiusmod tempor incididunt gaslighting ut labore et dolore magna aliqua. Ut enim ad gaslighting minim veniam, quis nostrud exercitation gaslighting ullamco

What is it with the inane attempts to use this word like you're actually conveying something other than puerile drivel? That's a punt to you, Nutsax, cuz you should really stop trying to sound anything other than mad, bad, and sad.

Obligatory: "Hope that helps." "Yikes." "Seek help."

Did I miss any?

Punt goes of side of kicker's foot and returned into the endzone.

[hobart]

Some great character this guild has...Furor trained them once after the mob was dead with no intent to actually cheat a win of the mob but all 5 of these things above happening in Riot with full intent to steal the mob cause they were beat.

Thats the antithesis of character

This is why you don't get it. The character I'm talking about has nothing to do with pixels and pixel squabbles.

Character is about whose text I want to spend three hours reading as I sip on my favorite beverage while we 3-4 man Chardok Royals like back in the old days.

You build your guild with a focus on winning and will take anyone that furthers that goal no matter what a repugnant piece of shit they are.

You should take a week off from raiding, grab a few pals, and go do some camps together. Good for your soul.

[Bache]

It's official: Riot is done.

Lmao

[Twochain]

This thread is starting to get stale. Can someone talk about how shitty we are for losing statue?

Also, all this shit reminds me of the time I FINALLY got my enc epic. The next raid cycle I brought my enc to tov, and began happily clicking SOS on every single person at entrance. Which was a lot. 5 minutes goes by and I’m being told I’m being petitioned for raid interference. The fuck u mean? I’m buffing everyone. I’m happy I just got my epic?! Someone eventually says to me that casting sos on someone kills their bind sight.

All I could think was Jesus this game sucks.

[Nutsax]

This thread is starting to get stale. Can someone talk about how shitty we are for losing statue?


No script runners?
I would have bet on it once I brought up that the statistical improbability of winning 20 in a row is 1%, they couldn't run up the tally from absurd to totally absurd.

I mean look, even a straight shooter like Naethyn asked why was Trainquish was doggin' this race.(a very weird thing to observe)

Once I pointed out the improbability of this occurring,sure as shit, they loose the next race.

LOL

[condap99]

No script runners?
I would have bet on it once I brought up that the statistical improbability of winning 20 in a row is 1%, they couldn't run up the tally from absurd to totally absurd.

I mean look, even a straight shooter like Naethyn asked why was Trainquish was doggin' this race.(a very weird thing to observe)

Once I pointed out the improbability of this occurring,sure as shit, they loose the next race.

LOL

I am sad that you think this is sound logic.

Your entire argument hinges on the concept that it's an equal probability to win or lose each race. That simply is not the case. If I tried to play 1on1 with Kevin Durant, it doesn't defy math if he beats me 20 times in a row. Please stop making this unbelievably stupid argument.

And Naethyn, while a nice guy, is not the sharpest knife in the drawer. Proclaiming 'even Naethyn thinks' is not the flex you seem to think it is.

[xdrcfrx]

it's not unique to p99 that in a zero-sum setting, if someone can cheat to gain and advantage eventually it's going to happen. Given the last year or so of Freedom -> Vanquish, for better or worse Vanq. leadership has essentially 0 credibility with anyone who doesn't wear that tag - without rehashing this entire thread, suffice to say there are numerous examples that explain that feeling. So it shouldn't be surprising that many people think you're cheating, and nearly none of them believe your denials.

[Ripqozko]

Naethyn doesn't have warder loot, hope that helps .

[Samoht]

it's not unique to p99 that in a zero-sum setting, if someone can cheat to gain and advantage eventually it's going to happen. Given the last year or so of Freedom -> Vanquish, for better or worse Vanq. leadership has essentially 0 credibility with anyone who doesn't wear that tag - without rehashing this entire thread, suffice to say there are numerous examples that explain that feeling. So it shouldn't be surprising that many people think you're cheating, and nearly none of them believe your denials.

At one point, Arcler had close to 99% raid attendance. If that's not a sign of scripting/botting, I don't know what is.

[xdrcfrx]

At one point, Arcler had close to 99% raid attendance. If that's not a sign of scripting/botting, I don't know what is.

in other words, "no u."

another compelling argument from the Vanquish brain trust.

[Samoht]

in other words, "no u."

This is exactly right. You pretend that Detoxx or Furoar have no credibility, but neither does Arcler. If I recall correctly, he was busted calling a Trakanon pop before it ever appeared on the screen. Since then, he's learned to cheat in a less obvious manner, and his raid attendance had a steep drop off.

Do you want us to forget the incident or pretend it never happened?

The only point I'm trying to make is that Riot only pretends to be more virtuous.

Vanquish doesn't pretend to be anything it isn't.

[xdrcfrx]

This is exactly right. ...

Vanquish doesn't pretend to be anything it isn't.

so your point is that Vanq. is unabashedly cheating, and that's fine because at least you're honest about it?

yikes.

[pogs4ever]

It’s time to add more bag limits.

[Samoht]

So you accuse vanquish of cheating and pretend Riot doesn't cheat. When past scenarios of Arcler getting caught cheating are brought up, suddenly the accusation is that Vanquish is okay with cheating? That's quite a leap in logic.

No, I'm just saying you're full of shit. And you seem to want to prove it really hard.

[xdrcfrx]

So you accuse vanquish of cheating and pretend Riot doesn't cheat. When past scenarios of Arcler getting caught cheating are brought up, suddenly the accusation is that Vanquish is okay with cheating? That's quite a leap in logic.

No, I'm just saying you're full of shit. And you seem to want to prove it really hard.

to the extent the question was not rhetorical, a simple yes or no would have sufficed.

[Nibblewitz]

Looking like the good guys is super important on the 22-year-old elf sim.

[xdrcfrx]

Looking like the good guys is super important on the 22-year-old elf sim.

if it didn't matter, you wouldn't try so hard to deflect and point the finger at them every time you all are criticized.

see also: detoxx's suggestion to remove tracker FTE in the UN, which went over like a lead balloon because nearly everyone dislikes you all, as a demonstration of why reputation still kind of matters.

[Allishia]

It’s time to add more bag limits.

Bag limit everything, even lady vox! Bahahaha :p

[ArbiterBlixen]

Bag limit everything, even lady vox! Bahahaha :p

What a self serving suggestion!

[Allishia]

What a self serving suggestion!

Hey! I'm trying to win eq over here ok! :p

[Ennewi]

Looking like the good guys is super important on the 22-year-old elf sim.

No matter how remote or private the community, public relations matter. When every other guild began to despise TMO, their leadership did the following: https://www.project1999.com/forums/showthread.php?t=70630
https://www.project1999.com/forums/showthread.php?t=70253

IBehaving like relatively sane, well-adjusted adults is supera 22-year-old MMORPG. The first M might be lower case now but it's still a social multiplayer game.

[Ennewi]

No matter how remote or private the community, public relations matter. When every other guild began to despise TMO, their leadership did the following:
https://www.project1999.com/forums/showthread.php?t=70630
https://www.project1999.com/forums/showthread.php?t=70253

Behaving like relatively sane, well-adjusted adults is super important in a 22-year-old MMORPG. The first M might be lower case now but it's still a social multiplayer game.

Damnable iPad.

[arsenalpow]

I mean if you’re going to dig up ancient history…

https://www.project1999.com/forums/showthread.php?t=76871

TMO gave up some garbage, BDA led open raids.

[Daloon]

This is the best timeline in P99's history to be the second-best guild, so Riot has that going for them. Hard for ToV guilds to disband when 33% are freebie mobs.

[Allishia]

I mean if you’re going to dig up ancient history…

https://www.project1999.com/forums/showthread.php?t=76871

TMO gave up some garbage, BDA led open raids.

Can you bring bda back to p99 please. Was best guild name ever! /nod

[Viscere]

Can you bring bda back to p99 please. Was best guild name ever! /nod

nah it was led by autistic inbred gingers fan of NWOs and who thought watching Sons of Anarchy was making em look cool

so no we don't need that back

[Allishia]

nah it was led by autistic inbred gingers fan of NWOs and who thought watching Sons of Anarchy was making em look cool

so no we don't need that back

Hey Mr, bda was lot of fun ok! The Bregan D'Arth looked so nice on my toons too, like a real dark elf guild /nod

[nyclin]

You pretend that Detoxx or Furoar have no credibility, but neither does Arcler. If I recall correctly, he was busted calling a Trakanon pop before it ever appeared on the screen. Since then, he's learned to cheat in a less obvious manner, and his raid attendance had a steep drop off.

you're just trying to muddy the waters with this bullshit but i still want to ask: how is this accusation even remotely plausible? there's no info available to the client that says 'this mob is going to pop' - the server just says 'this mob is here' and the client draws it.

or are you trying to say that Arcler is in fact clairvoyant and is using his supernatural powers to help Riot... not get mobs? with such awesome power on Riot's side, you'd think we'd be winning everything with ease.

[Samoht]

you're just trying to muddy the waters with this bullshit but i still want to ask: how is this accusation even remotely plausible? there's no info available to the client that says 'this mob is going to pop' - the server just says 'this mob is here' and the client draws it.

or are you trying to say that Arcler is in fact clairvoyant and is using his supernatural powers to help Riot... not get mobs? with such awesome power on Riot's side, you'd think we'd be winning everything with ease.

His python script + SEQ was too efficient and it sent the batphone before the pixels even appeared on the screen.

I mean, this is the exact same thing that Riot players are accusing Vanquish of in this very thread, right?

Reaction time is too fast for roll races or Badain hand ins, must be cheating! Too bad accusations against Riot leadership for the exact same thing have been around for so much longer...

[xdrcfrx]

His python script + SEQ was too efficient and it sent the batphone before the pixels even appeared on the screen.

I mean, this is the exact same thing that Riot players are accusing Vanquish of in this very thread, right?

Reaction time is too fast for roll races or Badain hand ins, must be cheating! Too bad accusations against Riot leadership for the exact same thing have been around for so much longer...

whataboutism? check.

false equivalence? check.

one more and you'll hit the bad faith triple crown. I believe in you!

[Samoht]

whataboutism? check.

false equivalence? check.

one more and you'll hit the bad faith triple crown. I believe in you!

Nice ad hominem! And a strawman!

Oh, the hypocrisy!

[Nutsax]

I am sad that you think this is sound logic.

Your entire argument hinges on the concept that it's an equal probability to win or lose each race. That simply is not the case. If I tried to play 1on1 with Kevin Durant, it doesn't defy math if he beats me 20 times in a row. Please stop making this unbelievably stupid argument.

And Naethyn, while a nice guy, is not the sharpest knife in the drawer. Proclaiming 'even Naethyn thinks' is not the flex you seem to think it is.

You sir are no Kevin Durant at EQ, and neither is anyone in your guild otherwise you wouldn't need to cheat to win.

This is strong circumstantial evidence that they cheat, possibly even stronger than the numbers.
I called Trainquish and Duhtoxx stupid for getting 20 in a row, because math is an unbiased observer and there is only a ~ 1% chance of winning 20 if they normally win 4 out of 5 races.

Winning 30 in a row would change the chance to 1 in 1000. And even though they don't get punished for cheating I expect they will throw a few races, knowing that they are already at a 1% chance and don't want to make appear even more absurd.

Another member of Trainquish who has poor reading comprehension. If you are too stupid to grasp that winning 4 out 5 races is not "equal chance" then I certainly do not trust any of your "logic".

This would be the chance of winning 20 in a row if the chance of winning or losing was equal.
Probability of A occuring 20 time(s) = 0.50^20 = .00000095367431640625or about 1 in 1,000,000.out of it.

If you don't understand an argument please do what Remen does and star out of it.

[Samoht]

https://i.imgur.com/msl6h99.gif

[Nutsax]

And Naethyn, while a nice guy, is not the sharpest knife in the drawer. Proclaiming 'even Naethyn thinks' is not the flex you seem to think it is

He was smart enough to spot something fishy going, Trainquish not trying to win the race after they had been informed on the chance of winning 20 in a row is 1 in 100.

[Toxigen]

who tf is this nutsax idiot lmao

[xdrcfrx]

Nice ad hominem! And a strawman!

Oh, the hypocrisy!

It's not ad hominem to critique your ideas because of their content (rather than because you are their source, which would be) and also not a strawman to point out that you're arguing in bad faith when we're having a conversation about credibility.

Keep trying!

[Nutsax]

And the very next statue Detoxx and team stop racing hard in Kael.

[nyclin]

His python script + SEQ was too efficient and it sent the batphone before the pixels even appeared on the screen.

I mean, this is the exact same thing that Riot players are accusing Vanquish of in this very thread, right?

Reaction time is too fast for roll races or Badain hand ins, must be cheating! Too bad accusations against Riot leadership for the exact same thing have been around for so much longer...

ahh okay got it, you're conflating something absolutely impossible (predicting spawns) with something unlikely, but possible (scripting runs/autofiring Badain)

you should probably stick to accusing people of things you actually understand

[Samoht]

ahh okay got it, you're conflating something absolutely impossible (predicting spawns) with something unlikely, but possible (scripting runs/autofiring Badain)

you should probably stick to accusing people of things you actually understand

I'm not sure I'm the one conflating things, you're the one who assumed it was about a prediction. What I'm saying is that trakanon showed on SEQ and his pything script sent off the batphone before it even appeared on the screen.

Like a 0.03 second reaction time. It's inhuman.

[Samoht]

It's not ad hominem to critique your ideas because of their content (rather than because you are their source, which would be) and also not a strawman to point out that you're arguing in bad faith when we're having a conversation about credibility.

Keep trying!

More strawmen! More hypocrisy!

At this point, I'm not sure if you're trying to prove my point for me or not...

[Ripqozko]

Anyone trying to prove a point on RNF is retarded. Hope that helps .

[Argh]

win = cheating
lose = proof of cheating

hell yea dude

[xdrcfrx]

More strawmen! More hypocrisy!

At this point, I'm not sure if you're trying to prove my point for me or not...

You are astonishingly bad at this. Please explain the strawman argument you are speaking of.

[Nutsax]

win = cheating
lose = proof of cheating

hell yea dude

Assumming Trainquish wins 4 out of 5 races, there is only 1 chance in 100 that Trainquish would win 20 in row.

As soon as Trainquish were made aware of this, Trainquish is seen not trying to win the race, and looses the 21st race.

This is evidence of cheating to any clear thinking individual.

[Swish]

Trainquish

https://i.imgur.com/gIZv6.gif

[Samoht]

You are astonishingly bad at this. Please explain the strawman argument you are speaking of.

ROFL.

This is definition of a strawman now!

How far down this wormhole of not knowing shit about the things you say on the p99 forums can you go?

[Nutsax]

ROFL.

This is definition of a strawman now!

How far down this wormhole of not knowing shit about the things you say on the p99 forums can you go?

Obviously you have no idea what a strawman argument is LOL.

[Samoht]

Obviously you have no idea what a strawman argument is LOL.

Says the moran with a "math" degree who doesn't understand that Kael races aren't a coin flip.

[Nibblewitz]

Assumming Trainquish wins 4 out of 5 races, there is only 1 chance in 100 that Trainquish would win 20 in row.


Like a math major, you’re assuming that the races are independent. In reality, Vanquish’s first 10 wins made you all log out in frustration and disgust, and your recent win was due to a massive dkp incentive for racers.

[myrddraal]

Like a math major, you’re assuming that the races are independent. In reality, Vanquish’s first 10 wins made you all log out in frustration and disgust, and your recent win was due to a massive dkp incentive for racers.

hasnt furor taken most of the good vulak and doze items because of the dkp bonuses for racing? Literally the exact thing people accuse arcler of accruing dkp to do when he hasnt bid on a single piece that I can remember?

[Nutsax]

Assumming Trainquish wins 4 out of 5 races, there is only 1 chance in 100 that Trainquish would win 20 in row.

As soon as Trainquish were made aware of this, Trainquish is seen not trying to win the race, and looses the 21st race.

This is evidence of cheating to any clear thinking individual.

Says the moran with a "math" degree who doesn't understand that Kael races aren't a coin flip.

I know this is difficult for you but, a coin flip in probabilty means the outcome of the flip landing on heads is 1/2 and landing on tails is 1/2 (with the probability of the coin landing on it's edge is 0).

Nowhere in any of my posts have I claimed Kael races are a coin flip. Winning 4 out of 5 races is not a coin flip (see above if you are still confused), and neither is winning 20 races in a row.

The irony of you calling someone a "moran" goes over your head.

And you still have no idea what a strawman argument is.

[Samoht]

I know this is difficult for you but, a coin flip in probabilty means the outcome of the flip landing on heads is 1/2 and landing on tails is 1/2 (with the probability of the coin landing on it's edge is 0).

Nowhere in any of my posts have I claimed Kael races are a coin flip. Winning 4 out of 5 races is not a coin flip (see above if you are still confused), and neither is winning 20 races in a row.

The irony of you calling someone a "moran" goes over your head.

And you still have no idea what a strawman argument is.

Talking about over your head...

https://i.imgur.com/4T86RMG.png

Jesus fucking christ you're stupid.

[Nutsax]

Like a math major, you’re assuming that the races are independent. In reality, Vanquish’s first 10 wins made you all log out in frustration and disgust, and your recent win was due to a massive dkp incentive for racers.

The races are independent events. Look up the definition.

When Trainquish cheats and are not punished people get disgusted. This is why allowing cheating is harmful, it reduces competition.

Explain to me how Riot increasing dkp for fte decreases the skill of Trainquish players.

People observed Trainquish not trying to win race 21.

[Samoht]

I hope you never bid on horse races. The odds aren't 1 in 8 just because there's 8 horses.

[Nutsax]

Talking about over your head...

https://i.imgur.com/4T86RMG.png

Jesus fucking christ you're stupid.

I am stupid? You just posted a meme of yourself, and fail to understand that LOL

[Samoht]

I am stupid? You just posted a meme of yourself, and fail to understand that LOL

Someone obviously doesn't get it...

[Nutsax]

I hope you never bid on horse races. The odds aren't 1 in 8 just because there's 8 horses.

Good, you are beginning to understand.

Nowhere in my posts is a 1/2 probability (coin toss) used, now go back and re-read the posts and if you are still struggling or have any questions know that I am here to help you.

[Nutsax]

Someone obviously doesn't get it...

You are the moron who wrote "moran", not me.
Hope this helps

[Samoht]

Good, you are beginning to understand.

Nowhere in my posts is a 1/2 probability (coin toss) used, now go back and re-read the posts and if you are still struggling or have any questions know that I am here to help you.

You pulled numbers out of your ass. Your odds have no basis in reality.

You are the moron who wrote "moran", not me.
Hope this helps

ROFL you still don't get it!

[Nutsax]

Says the moran with a "math" degree who doesn't understand that Kael races aren't a coin flip.

[Samoht]

Get a brain MORAN

Hahahahaha

[Aadill]

get a BRIAN, moran.

[Samoht]

get a BRIAN, moran.

Nice

[Nutsax]

You pulled numbers out of your ass. Your odds have no basis in reality.

The new reality that Trainquish cheats by running an optimized script means they would win every race. That is not based in reality.

My estimate of 4 out 5 for non scripted races is much closer to reality and probably over compensates Trainquish.

[Samoht]

My estimate of 4 out 5 for non scripted races is much closer to reality and probably over compensates Trainquish.

This is gibberish.

4 out of 5 racers recommend Nutsax in your mouth!

See, I can make shit up, too.

[Nutsax]

So you think 1 out of 20 is a better estimate, when Trainquish is observed not trying to win?

[Samoht]

So you think 1 out of 20 is a better estimate

Recent history would confirm this to be accurate, yes. You have to consider that most established Riot racers are in Vanquish now leaving very few viable runners.

[Ennewi]

I mean if you’re going to dig up ancient history…

https://www.project1999.com/forums/showthread.php?t=76871

TMO gave up some garbage, BDA led open raids.

Yep, the TMO links weren't meant to be a how-to in terms of diplomacy, only to highlight that they at least made an attempt to repair their faction with the rest of the server. That effort did seem to be more about damage control than appreciation for the larger community. Bread crumbs and circuses...which missed the point because players weren't 100% after the loot, but a chance to take a stab at that tier of gameplay together, either for the first time or once again after a decade's absence.

I likely benefited from some of those open BDA raids actually, but only really remember the TMO garbagenaire that wiped guilds again and again outside of KC, finally being slain after the fourth, fifth attempt that day? Thereabouts. Ruffel/AG regularly left targets up for other guilds with the idea being that doing so was better for the community and those targets weren't much of a challenge anymore so only smaller, less experienced guilds would be able to min/max the fun of the encounter, loot included. But even for players/guilds where that idea is barely an afterthought, it's still in their best interest to not con threateningly to the other guilds and unguildeds.

Ignoring all other BiS and just going by the number of players I've known who went months, years without koi/dagarn pants or aow leggings, I feel like Norrath should have seen the formation of its own <Sans Culottes> by now.

[Nutsax]

Recent history would confirm this to be accurate, yes. You have to consider that most established Riot racers are in Vanquish now leaving very few viable runners.

I know of one that flipped, Riot has dozens of exceptionally skilled players, unfortunately none are good enough to beat a script. Many don't want to race in vain.

What happened on the 21st race, did Trainquish loose thier skill or just give up?

[Samoht]

Many don't want to race in vain.

Many know they don't stand a chance against racers like Furoar or Laughingor.

What happened on the 21st race, did Trainquish loose thier skill or just give up?

It can't rain all the time.

[hobart]

This thread has taken a turn. There's a couple of you who seem like you would not be very fun guys to be guilded with.

[Nutsax]

Many know they don't stand a chance against racers like Furoar or Laughingor..

Furoar is good and he scripts and autofires. Laughingor to my knowledge is just an exceptional racer.

It can't rain all the time

I agree this happens when optimized scripts are not used on the 21st attempt immediately after Trainquish learns that winning 20 in a row is 1 in 100.

[Samoht]

winning 20 in a row is 1 in 100.

Numbers pulled out your ass... but it's becoming more and more obvious that's where your brain is.

[Nutsax]

Numbers pulled out your ass... but it's becoming more and more obvious that's where your brain is.

What happened on the 21st race? Trainquish was observed not trying to win the race.

[Nibblewitz]

Let’s use the variability of the last 20 races to predict the next one with absolute certainty. Statistics is so powerful.

[Fammaden]

Bye Riot you will not be missed.

[Grumph]

Let’s use the variability of the last 20 races to predict the next one with absolute certainty. Statistics is so powerful.

Hey Real Communism has never been tried!

[wagorf]

Another member of Trainquish who has poor reading comprehension. If you are too stupid to grasp that winning 4 out 5 races is not "equal chance" then I certainly do not trust any of your "logic".

This would be the chance of winning 20 in a row if the chance of winning or losing was equal.
Probability of A occuring 20 time(s) = 0.50^20 = .00000095367431640625or about 1 in 1,000,000.out of it.

If you don't understand an argument please do what Remen does and star out of it.[/QUOTE]

This is the dumbest statistical theory I've ever seen. Did you even go to college? Stats 101?

When outcome is only A or B, the chance of A occurring 20 times in a row = 0.50^20 --> This is applicable only if the chance of A or B occurring is EQUAL, such as flipping a coin. In EQ racing (with outcome = Guild A or Guild B getting FTE) , chance of A and chance of B getting FTE is not the same.

[wagorf]

Nowhere in any of my posts have I claimed Kael races are a coin flip. Winning 4 out of 5 races is not a coin flip (see above if you are still confused), and neither is winning 20 races in a row.

Yes you did you fuckin moron. When you claim Vanq win Kael race 20 time(s) in a row = 0.50^20.


Another member of Trainquish who has poor reading comprehension. If you are too stupid to grasp that winning 4 out 5 races is not "equal chance" then I certainly do not trust any of your "logic".

This would be the chance of winning 20 in a row if the chance of winning or losing was equal.
Probability of A occuring 20 time(s) = 0.50^20 = .00000095367431640625or about 1 in 1,000,000.out of it.

[Samoht]

When outcome is only A or B, the chance of A occurring 20 times in a row = 0.50^20 --> This is applicable only if the chance of A or B occurring is EQUAL, such as flipping a coin. In EQ racing (with outcome = Guild A or Guild B getting FTE) , chance of A and chance of B getting FTE is not the same.

Shhhh... don't use the "c" word. He's proven before that it confuses him that his statistics were so bad.

[Bardp1999]

I agree this happens when optimized scripts are not used on the 21st attempt immediately after Trainquish learns that winning 20 in a row is 1 in 100.

https://i.imgur.com/I9Uzv4A.jpg

[Nutsax]

Another member of Trainquish who has poor reading comprehension. If you are too stupid to grasp that winning 4 out 5 races is not "equal chance" then I certainly do not trust any of your "logic".

This would be the chance of winning 20 in a row if the chance of winning or losing was equal.
Probability of A occuring 20 time(s) = 0.50^20 = .00000095367431640625or about 1 in 1,000,000.out of it.

If you don't understand an argument please do what Remen does and star out of it.

This is the dumbest statistical theory I've ever seen. Did you even go to college? Stats 101?

When outcome is only A or B, the chance of A occurring 20 times in a row = 0.50^20 --> This is applicable only if the chance of A or B occurring is EQUAL, such as flipping a coin. In EQ racing (with outcome = Guild A or Guild B getting FTE) , chance of A and chance of B getting FTE is not the same.[/QUOTE]

Another Trainquish member who struggles with reading comprehension.....

From what I wrote,"This would be the chance of winning 20 in a row if the chance of winning or losing was equal."

This is probability theory not statistics, you can't read but are calling me dumb LOL.

[Nutsax]

Double post for clarity.

Another member of Trainquish who has poor reading comprehension. If you are too stupid to grasp that winning 4 out 5 races is not "equal chance" then I certainly do not trust any of your "logic".

This would be the chance of winning 20 in a row if the chance of winning or losing was equal.
Probability of A occuring 20 time(s) = 0.50^20 = .00000095367431640625or about 1 in 1,000,000.out of it.

If you don't understand an argument please do what Remen does and stay out of it.

This is the dumbest statistical theory I've ever seen. Did you even go to college? Stats 101?

When outcome is only A or B, the chance of A occurring 20 times in a row = 0.50^20 --> This is applicable only if the chance of A or B occurring is EQUAL, such as flipping a coin. In EQ racing (with outcome = Guild A or Guild B getting FTE) , chance of A and chance of B getting FTE is not the same.

Another Trainquish member who struggles with reading comprehension.....

From what I wrote,"This would be the chance of winning 20 in a row if the chance of winning or losing was equal."

This is probability theory not statistics, you can't read but are calling me dumb LOL.

[Samoht]

^ when you explain it 100 times but the idiot still pretends they were right

[Tunabros]

do people even have fun on blue anymore

[Nutsax]

I am attempting to help Dumb and Dumber understand because they lack critical education in reading and math skills.

In my estimate P(Trainquish wins)= .80 and P(Riot wins)= .20 for each independent race.

The probability that Trainquish wins 20 times in a row using this estimate is 1 in 100.

Now if we estimate Tainquish and Riot win equal amounts of races, the probability that Trainquish wins 20 times in a row is 1 in 1,000,000

What happened on the 21st race, Trainquish was observed not trying to win the race?

[Samoht]

In my estimate P(Trainquish wins)= .80 and P(Riot wins)= .20 for each independent race.

These numbers have no basis in reality. Just like your "math" degree.

[Nutsax]

These numbers have no basis in reality. Just like your "math" degree.

Sure they do, prior to cheaters scripting Trainquish didn't win 80% of races in Kael.

[Nibblewitz]

Riot getting 20% is quite generous. No wonder they're done.

[Nutsax]

Riot getting 20% is quite generous. No wonder they're done.

What happened on the 21st race, Trainquish was observed not trying to win the race?

[Drakborn]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UN-DXJSBEMI

[Twochain]

What happened on the 21st race, Trainquish was observed not trying to win the race?

Lenard Stikkerz and Laughingor were the ONLY people winning ftes for Riot post last summer. Lenard is mia, laughingor jumped ship because he realized your guilds cry to playmaking ratio is abysmal. And I saw stikkerz the other day, that's my boy we go way back.

The way you feel so righteously correct while providing absolutely no proof when there is hundreds of hours of fraps'd runs from fur, venice, detoxx, ETC available on youtube to find the smoking gun. You have spent hours on this thread alone, yet, cannot be bothered to point to us where the run is a script and where it is not. Which leads me to conclude that not only are you on meth, but every single one of my guild mates is losing engaging with you. Because they are arguing with a giga nerd who's burner p99 forum account is named "Nutsax". It's that simple

[Nutsax]

Lenard Stikkerz and Laughingor were the ONLY people winning ftes for Riot post last summer. Lenard is mia, laughingor jumped ship because he realized your guilds cry to playmaking ratio is abysmal. And I saw stikkerz the other day, that's my boy we go way back.

The way you feel so righteously correct while providing absolutely no proof when there is hundreds of hours of fraps'd runs from fur, venice, detoxx, ETC available on youtube to find the smoking gun. You have spent hours on this thread alone, yet, cannot be bothered to point to us where the run is a script and where it is not. Which leads me to conclude that not only are you on meth, but every single one of my guild mates is losing engaging with you. Because they are arguing with a giga nerd who's burner p99 forum account is named "Nutsax". It's that simple

Numbers don't lie.
LOL at showing videos to Trainquish.
Trainquish necro (Klaz) trains Riot at doubles and they claim Riot trained Klaz.
It's called gaslighting.

[wagorf]

In my estimate P(Trainquish wins)= .80 and P(Riot wins)= .20 for each independent race.


This is already fundamentally wrong. The probability of any guild getting FTE on any target is not fixed as there are millions of side factors.

Theory of probability = Statistics. Anybody with some sort of education understands. You obviously lack common knowledge.

[wagorf]

These numbers have no basis in reality. Just like your "math" degree.

[Tethler]

I'm confused, is Riot done or not?

[Va1entines]

I mean why bring statistics into it if you're just being hypothetical? No point in bringing up a 1 in 1000000 stat based on 50/50 shot, when its obvious riot doesn't have a coin flip shot. I got nothing against riot at all, many nice ones around. But our racers are just straight up better, and but in more time and effort on test servers. Thats why all the fancy numbers mean nothing.

[Nutsax]

The probability of any guild getting FTE on any target is not fixed as there are millions of side factors.

This is why it is called a probability, dummy.



Theory of probability = Statistics. Anybody with some sort of education understands. You obviously lack common knowledge.

Wrong, Probability Theory and Statistics are 2 different and distinct areas of study within Mathematics, it's really quite ignorant to claim they are the same. You obviously never got past high school Algebra.

[Nutsax]

I mean why bring statistics into it if you're just being hypothetical? No point in bringing up a 1 in 1000000 stat based on 50/50 shot, when its obvious riot doesn't have a coin flip shot. I got nothing against riot at all, many nice ones around. But our racers are just straight up better, and but in more time and effort on test servers. Thats why all the fancy numbers mean nothing.

What happened on the 21st race, Trainquish was observed not trying to win the race?

[Nutsax]

I'm confused, is Riot done or not?

Not at all.

[Terrok]

https://youtu.be/hyHA_kU1A8Q?t=69

69 can't be wrong...

Lol detoxx telling furor to get the pets ae'd to hinder riots engage, then acts like riot are the bad guys... all this drama over a video game, gratz on being warm bodies in real life.

[Terrok]

lol all the people who wanted competition, all the people who said riot was the zerg guild, all the people who said riot was full of warm bodies... yes riot is done, now what are you going to do with your time? hate on a has been guild for the next 20 years, that 50% of your active raiders where a part of for over a year? How many times was vanquish forced to change their guild name to avoid being perma banned for all their petitions against them?

[wagorf]

This is why it is called a probability, dummy.





Wrong, Probability Theory and Statistics are 2 different and distinct areas of study within Mathematics, it's really quite ignorant to claim they are the same. You obviously never got past high school Algebra.

Hey dumbass. I graduated with B.S in Stats - Math degree and Stats bachelors degree are two different fields. Probability was taught in Stats 101 in the very first year at wihch most freshmens are required to take. There isn't a Probably degree or course.

Not only are you bad at this game with low EQ, you are also very poorly educated.

[tankh]

Hey dumbass. I graduated with B.S in Stats - Math degree and Stats bachelors degree are two different fields. Probability was taught in Stats 101 in the very first year at wihch most freshmens are required to take. There isn't a Probably degree or course.

Not only are you bad at this game with low EQ, you are also very poorly educated.

Maybe you should have studied English

[Comoc1]

Maybe you should have studied English

+1

[Fammaden]

I'm confused, is Riot done or not?

Riot super over, in ten days, on September 11th, the guild will disband after Arcler is banned for cheating and President Trump is reinstated following Joe Biden's arrest and execution for treason. Trust the plan.

[Grumph]

Riot super over, in ten days, on September 11th, the guild will disband after Arcler is banned for cheating and President Trump is reinstated following Joe Biden's arrest and execution for treason. Trust the plan.

You mean the plan… to leave Afghanistan?

[Allishia]

I'm confused, is Riot done or not?

Don't believe anything you read in rnf, it's just poking fun /nod

[sydbarrett25]

Anyone trying to prove a point on RNF is retarded. Hope that helps .

[Nutsax]

Hey dumbass. I graduated with B.S in Stats - Math degree and Stats bachelors degree are two different fields. Probability was taught in Stats 101 in the very first year at wihch most freshmens are required to take. There isn't a Probably degree or course.

Not only are you bad at this game with low EQ, you are also very poorly educated.

It is called Probability Theory, of course there is no "Probably" degree, you googled the wrong word LOL

I doubt you graduated high school.

[Nutsax]

Maybe you should have studied English

His reading comprehension is low in any language.:eek:

[mycoolrausch]

Vanquish racing Kael: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8QHH6ODnRTA

Me racing Kael: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GC7Onhm3tto

[Samoht]

It is called Probability Theory, of course there is no "Probably" degree, you googled the wrong word LOL

You know you have no argument when you resort to arguing the semantics of an obvious typo.

[Nutsax]

You know you have no argument when you resort to arguing the semantics of an obvious typo.

Not typing 3 letters is not a "typo".

[hobart]

Samoht and Nutsax should both lose DKP for their sheer volume of posts in this thread.

[Nutsax]

Samoht and Nutsax should both lose DKP for their sheer volume of posts in this thread.

In my defense, dispelling the false narrative of a gaggle of halfwits takes work.

[Samoht]

In my defense, dispelling the false narrative of a gaggle of halfwits takes work.

Yeah, we keep trying, and you and croco keep posting some of the dumbest shit I've ever seen.

[Nutsax]

Yeah, we keep trying, and you and croco keep posting some of the dumbest shit I've ever seen.

I doubt you understand what you read.

[Samoht]

I doubt you understand what you read.

We all doubt you understood what you posted.

[Nutsax]

We all doubt you understood what you posted.

Originality is not your strong suit.

[Naethyn]

https://imgur.com/3jUOe1v.jpg

[Nibblewitz]

I doubt you understand what you read.

Dude, just stop. In the 50s, Kolmogorov unified probability theory with the Lebesgue measure, which governs statistics. They are one in the same.

[Fammaden]

I miss Riot, oh well I guess all good things must come to an end eventually. I hope they all find a new place to play EQ.

[Nutsax]

Measure-Theoretic Probability I
http://galton.uchicago.edu › ~lalley › Courses › m...
PDF
by SP Lalley · 2017 · Cited by 3 — the uniform distribution on [0,1], also known as the Lebesgue measure on [0,1], ... The proof has nothing to do with probability theory,

[Viscere]

You had a good run riot

Time to pull out the doors meme, rip in rip sweet princes

[Furorr]

hasnt furor taken most of the good vulak and doze items because of the dkp bonuses for racing? Literally the exact thing people accuse arcler of accruing dkp to do when he hasnt bid on a single piece that I can remember?

Vanquish doesn't have FTE bonuses. We've been winning races for fun. It may be time to start, though. They've been doing a fantastic job. Is Arcler still rocking that 90% RA? I need to up my game. A casual like myself is just sitting down here at 66%. Who does all the DKP submissions in Riot?

To date, it is my 3rd year on P99. I have never been consistently bested in coth, foot, or click races by anyone on the server, so I do not believe any player has been cheating on them. I would haven taken notice if someone started blowing through my benchmarks. Tofat, Tuddy, Iris, Papazol, Zarza on coths, Venice at RW, Mjrn, Stunningly, Papazol, Laughingor, Soju, Lennard, Capi, Detoxx, Kingmob, Luddo, Screapy on races... these guys are all killers I've spent a lot of time competing with. I see Slaggs (Gnomatron), Hogur, Mazeril, Chexi, Twist, Ironn, Trakkini, and Meathanger coming up on races too! ...I hope Griffith isn't getting paid for his Kael runs lol sorry Myrddraal.

In regards to Riot dying, it is sad to see. I had a lot of fun in that guild! Just wish it was managed better at the time. It is probably overdue now for a restructure or a merge to change the direction it has been going.

Raid success does not detract from friendships, questing, or anything else a guild has to offer. If success on raids did have any negative impact on guilds, what does the impact of failing on raids have on a guild? If you're going to be spending time raiding anyway, win. If your leadership tries to rationalize defeat, run. The competition is going to be hard enough on you without trying to carry your leaders as well.

[tankh]

+1 for political agenda

[tankh]

-10 because the majority of your guild members are a bunch of cunts

[SantagarBrax]

There's a very simple way to determine Riot's viability to remain a competitive guild...

What's your FTE bonus at? 250 now?

lawls

[tankh]

Play makers get paid $$

[Nibblewitz]

Measure-Theoretic Probability I
http://galton.uchicago.edu › ~lalley › Courses › m...
PDF
by SP Lalley · 2017 · Cited by 3 — the uniform distribution on [0,1], also known as the Lebesgue measure on [0,1], ... The proof has nothing to do with probability theory,

Strange, the statistics department teaches probability theory. Maybe it’s because the strengths of statistical inferences are measured with probabilities.

[remen]

-10 because the majority of your guild members are a bunch of cunts

You sound like a fun guy though

[Naerron]

but what IS it?

[Naerron]

but what IS it?

[Naerron]

welp i'm a boomer and can't even post on a forum, maybe the guild is dead

[Ripqozko]

Triple post, he mad

[Twochain]

Vanquish doesn't have FTE bonuses. We've been winning races for fun. It may be time to start, though. They've been doing a fantastic job. Is Arcler still rocking that 90% RA? I need to up my game. A casual like myself is just sitting down here at 66%. Who does all the DKP submissions in Riot?

To date, it is my 3rd year on P99. I have never been consistently bested in coth, foot, or click races by anyone on the server, so I do not believe any player has been cheating on them. I would haven taken notice if someone started blowing through my benchmarks. Tofat, Tuddy, Iris, Papazol, Zarza on coths, Venice at RW, Mjrn, Stunningly, Papazol, Laughingor, Soju, Lennard, Capi, Detoxx, Kingmob, Luddo, Screapy on races... these guys are all killers I've spent a lot of time competing with. I see Slaggs (Gnomatron), Hogur, Mazeril, Chexi, Twist, Ironn, Trakkini, and Meathanger coming up on races too! ...I hope Griffith isn't getting paid for his Kael runs lol sorry Myrddraal.

In regards to Riot dying, it is sad to see. I had a lot of fun in that guild! Just wish it was managed better at the time. It is probably overdue now for a restructure or a merge to change the direction it has been going.

Raid success does not detract from friendships, questing, or anything else a guild has to offer. If success on raids did have any negative impact on guilds, what does the impact of failing on raids have on a guild? If you're going to be spending time raiding anyway, win. If your leadership tries to rationalize defeat, run. The competition is going to be hard enough on you without trying to carry your leaders as well.


That's cute, did you use python to script this forum post too kid? Get legit

[Aadill]

That's cute, did you use python to script this forum post too kid? Get legit

I haven't laughed that hard since five minutes ago.

[Allishia]

welp i'm a boomer and can't even post on a forum, maybe the guild is dead

Lmao you boomer :p

[myrddraal]

Vanquish doesn't have FTE bonuses. We've been winning races for fun. It may be time to start, though. They've been doing a fantastic job. Is Arcler still rocking that 90% RA? I need to up my game. A casual like myself is just sitting down here at 66%. Who does all the DKP submissions in Riot?

To date, it is my 3rd year on P99. I have never been consistently bested in coth, foot, or click races by anyone on the server, so I do not believe any player has been cheating on them. I would haven taken notice if someone started blowing through my benchmarks. Tofat, Tuddy, Iris, Papazol, Zarza on coths, Venice at RW, Mjrn, Stunningly, Papazol, Laughingor, Soju, Lennard, Capi, Detoxx, Kingmob, Luddo, Screapy on races... these guys are all killers I've spent a lot of time competing with. I see Slaggs (Gnomatron), Hogur, Mazeril, Chexi, Twist, Ironn, Trakkini, and Meathanger coming up on races too! ...I hope Griffith isn't getting paid for his Kael runs lol sorry Myrddraal.

In regards to Riot dying, it is sad to see. I had a lot of fun in that guild! Just wish it was managed better at the time. It is probably overdue now for a restructure or a merge to change the direction it has been going.

Raid success does not detract from friendships, questing, or anything else a guild has to offer. If success on raids did have any negative impact on guilds, what does the impact of failing on raids have on a guild? If you're going to be spending time raiding anyway, win. If your leadership tries to rationalize defeat, run. The competition is going to be hard enough on you without trying to carry your leaders as well.

Pretty sure Tonik does most of our dkp input, and arclers RA and dkp is irrelevant if he never bids on anything lol. Not really anything they need anyway if it does even drop.
I also wouldnt call 66% ra casual, especially with these currently insane windows spread out over like 4 days. Im at a comfortable 30% myself.

Speaking of. working out the kinks in my racing \_o_/ test server times are good, up there with inbetween when i was on there last and they just won our statue. Not sure why Im having the issues I am on blue over TS, but i'll get it figured out. Throwing in the towel on racing isnt an option unless theres a rule change they make but with coths out of the picture there isnt a lot of other options. The worst part about the racing is sitting on the line for hours rather than losing but thats why I've said several times in blue general we should do away with natural variance spawns and just quake randomly once a week. Less time wasted, more time actually playing. Especially when there are mobs that require a lot of moving parts to sock like doze what with getting fte, not dropping, maintining train outs and faction, I much prefer the coth engage meta because it needed less infrastructure personally.

[Toxigen]

-10 because the majority of your guild members are a bunch of cunts

you must be fun at parties

[tankh]

you must be fun at parties

This makes no sense? I can safely say because you call them “parties” You definitely wouldn’t be anywhere I would be drinking.

I just say it how it is, lets have it straight fella your only in VQ is because you was kicked out Riot for saying stupid shit?