US capital building gets breached. Is this the end?

[Mblake81]

What isn't in a state of falling apart, distress.. may it stress you and twist you into some hideous creature that makes some good music for a change.

[Gravydoo II]

Blasphemy. How dare you.

[Mblake81]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K18yV5NlKKE

[magnetaress]

What isn't in a state of falling apart, distress.. may it stress you and twist you into some hideous creature that makes some good music for a change.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K18yV5NlKKE

Good posts.

[Caroll]

All the obese and rural white trailer trash who support literal Nazis have been banned after their loser president conceded.

Hahahahaha. See you later, racists. Have fun popping Oxys and crying on QAnon forums about delusional fantasies while the FBI hunts you down.

[TheSurgeon]

Like everything in bitchmade America, this protest was about as exciting as Corona. Lame as fuck. Mother fuckers literally just wanted to collect some photos for Instagram.

A soft soft soft generation where revolutions are fought on the battlefield of twitter, while sitting on the shitter.

[Thulian]

Trump won, the dems cheated 50 different ways and doomed themselves to 4 years of poverty after the market collapses from these stimulus

[Caroll]

Like everything in bitchmade America, this protest was about as exciting as Corona. Lame as fuck. Mother fuckers literally just wanted to collect some photos for Instagram.

A soft soft soft generation where revolutions are fought on the battlefield of twitter, while sitting on the shitter.

Are you saying you wanted there to be more violence and death? I wonder which candidate you supported...

[Thulian]

I Think the protest was amazing and enjoyed every second and the pics. A+ Content

sorry you have no money in the bank caroll

use those man fingers to pop another hormone pill bud

[Caroll]

I Think the protest was amazing and enjoyed every second and the pics. A+ Content

sorry you have no money in the bank caroll

use those man fingers to pop another hormone pill bud

Prove you don't live with your mom. Enjoy getting your $2,000 stimulus for more fish sticks from President Joe Biden.

[magnetaress]

https://i.imgur.com/PljFXL5.gif

[Caroll]

Trump won, the dems cheated 50 different ways and doomed themselves to 4 years of poverty after the market collapses from these stimulus

Proof or obese?

[magnetaress]

Show abbs

[Kich867]

I Think the protest was amazing and enjoyed every second and the pics. A+ Content

They killed a cop and planted bombs dawg.

[Caroll]

They killed a cop and planted bombs dawg.

He's revealing what everyone already knew to be true. These terrorists love violence and death to anyone who disagrees with their Nazi world view. He also has a very low IQ and he's living off of government entitlements.

[budz2112]

Not for one second was what happened on 1/06/2021 a protest, nor is one person that attended a patriot

[Mblake81]

Pound those keys, spread the truth.. the truuuuth!

[Cassawary]

damn this went from talking about the capital getting breached to hating on trans :/

we were talking about the 25th first, sir

[budz2112]

Just like the russians, projection is the only thing they know. Because projection is easy, you dont have to think, dont have to come up with anything original. Its the only thing a trump supporter has the ability to do, and they perfectly replicate how the Russians manipulate their own and others media

[budz2112]

Pound those keys, spread the truth.. the truuuuth!

Always, keep trolling i guess you think its cool.

[Mblake81]

I absolutely enjoy trolling you, budz21121212123223*mandarin area code*

[budz2112]

I absolutely enjoy trolling you, budz21121212123223*mandarin area code*

To be a troll in 2021. Just laughable rly

[Mblake81]

To be a troll in 2021. Just laughable rly

I am.

So, you decided to set up shop and camp out here like you are one of the old time paint-on-the-walls, new guy who wants to flex?

[budz2112]

I am.

So, you decided to set up shop and camp out here like you are one of the old time paint-on-the-walls, new guy who wants to flex?

If you say so, why you so appalled by truth?

[Mblake81]

If you say so

I do, there is a pecking order and you are no where near the top. Learn your place 2021 guy.

[budz2112]

I do, there is a pecking order and you are no where near the top. Learn your place 2021 guy.

my place is posting truth to trolls falsehoods. Im right where I should be.

[magnetaress]

It's possible to be a respectable poster despite having different view points from the majority.

[Mblake81]

my place is posting truth to trolls falsehoods. Im right where I should be.

Yeah, at the bottom.

[magnetaress]

I was a Russia gator.

https://i.imgur.com/IK36Yvt.png

U know what.

I think I was wrong about russiagate. People drinking leftwing conspiracies as Mitch McConnell stated during previous elections did help push the needle.

[budz2112]

It's possible to be a respectable poster despite having different view points from the majority.

Dont know if you are referring to me, but if so. I have zero respect for trolls, nor should anyone. Different view points on the other hand is completely different, and ill have a debate with anyone on any view

[Mblake81]

Dont know if you are referring to me, but if so. I have zero respect for trolls, nor should anyone. Different view points on the other hand is completely different, and ill have a debate with anyone on any view

You are in the wrong neighborhood pal, we have Troll in the game too.. do you RP outside of Grobb?

[budz2112]

Yeah, at the bottom.

If you say so

[Jibartik]

Market going to hit 46 this year, just like the presidential count did.

[Mblake81]

If you say so

What else do you have to take?

[Jibartik]

I heard 5 people died of covid during the riots. :p

[magnetaress]

Market going to hit 46 this year, just like the presidential count did.

For us unwashed and unshowered plebes is this good?

[Jibartik]

yeah but it means the wage gap will be huge lol but millennials will be able to buy houses finally

it went to 16 (under trump lol!) and now its abck to like 30 which is too high IMO but once we all get out and spending again its going to fricken skyrocket with all these posi vibes in the atmosphere after that sh*( show when trump got decapitated, politically.

I could be wrong, but this feels like VJ day all over again for the dems.

[Kich867]

I heard 5 people died of covid during the riots. :p

One old guy tazed himself to death trying to taze a cop apparently.

[magnetaress]

I heard 5 people died of covid during the riots. :p

You know what I think happened? Sorta like Ret.Saxon.Alex was saying earlier, they been through 11 armageddons.

I think the world really did go wwiii.

We died and passed through the eye of the needle.

We are transitioning into the next plane of existence.

The people who are dead and dead dead not coming back, died in hell, and descended. Those dead of covid are probably fighting wwiii right now. They died in anger and rage and are doomed to wander the lands of zombies and carnage. It's very unlikely we'll see those people ever again. Brings a new take on Jesus's resurrection. They aren't the peaceful dead and their going to keep tearing downwards into the heart of hell in order to try and confront Satan himself on Satans terms. I mean the opposite could have happened, but today kinda feels better. At night on Jan 6, there was a long beeeep as all the battery backups went dead, felt like the beep from a heart monitor too. If we are in a coma, I apologize :D HOPE YOUR DAY GOES WELL. And we get to meet the real Alien Federation.

It's a tough choice to make sometimes. That's my spiritual take on it.

[Mblake81]

The people who are dead and dead dead not coming back, died in hell, and descended. Those dead of covid are probably fighting wwiii right now. They died in anger and rage and are doomed to wander the lands of zombies and carnage. It's very unlikely we'll see those people ever again. Brings a new take on Jesus's resurrection. They aren't the peaceful dead and their going to keep tearing downwards into the heart of hell in order to try and confront Satan himself on Satans terms. I mean the opposite could have happened, but today kinda feels better. At night on Jan 6, there was a long beeeep as all the battery backups went dead, felt like the beep from a heart monitor too. If we are in a coma, I apologize :D HOPE YOUR DAY GOES WELL. And we get to meet the real Alien Federation.

It's a tough choice to make sometimes. That's my spiritual take on it.

Use your illusion (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=biNGPkOVaBE)

[Llanos]

While saying he doesn't feel the election was stolen, he was just pursuing every option to verify its integrity.

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1347334804052844550?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5 Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1347334804052844550%7Ctwgr% 5E%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fpublish.twitter.com%2F%3Fque ry%3Dhttps3A2F2Ftwitter.com2FrealDonaldTrump2Fstat us2F1347334804052844550widget%3DTweet

Can I ask someone to montage all the January 6 posters? Get what you expected? Learn that maybe I understand a few things?

He wasn't supposed to win the first time, it was a glorious upset, he was the Great White Hope, but he failed fantastically while exhibiting awful character. Those failures were evident *years* ago now. Let this final humiliation, Jan. 6, be a lesson to you fanatical worshippers. All men are fallible. You must practice detecting those flaws.

All men most certainly have flaws. His were out for all to see. That's much preferable to slimeball politicians that have been in Congress 45 years and did nothing.

The problem is Trump was a leader. Leaders invoke strong emotions. What you all like is a manager. Someone who isn't like you and knows better. Someone who just tells you what you want to hear.

[Cassawary]

You know what I think happened? Sorta like Ret.Saxon.Alex was saying earlier, they been through 11 armageddons.

I think the world really did go wwiii.

We died and passed through the eye of the needle.

We are transitioning into the next plane of existence.

The people who are dead and dead dead not coming back, died in hell, and descended. Those dead of covid are probably fighting wwiii right now. They died in anger and rage and are doomed to wander the lands of zombies and carnage. It's very unlikely we'll see those people ever again. Brings a new take on Jesus's resurrection. They aren't the peaceful dead and their going to keep tearing downwards into the heart of hell in order to try and confront Satan himself on Satans terms. I mean the opposite could have happened, but today kinda feels better. At night on Jan 6, there was a long beeeep as all the battery backups went dead, felt like the beep from a heart monitor too. If we are in a coma, I apologize :D HOPE YOUR DAY GOES WELL. And we get to meet the real Alien Federation.

It's a tough choice to make sometimes. That's my spiritual take on it.

TW: Pretty similar idea to quantum suicide (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quantum_suicide_and_immortality)

[Mblake81]

I like to say Quantum.

Quantum dressing on my thought salad.

[magnetaress]

DEEEP AF.

[Jibartik]

for a minuet this year I thought we were coming so close to quantum mastery that the universe creator was like, "well we reached the time limit again, they're about to figure out how I set all this up, time to reset"

but now I think we're just onto some new science and we're just dust in the wind.

[magnetaress]

Could be multiple dimensions. I mean there's probably one were I suicided and never came back to the forum. Not to make it about me, but its my perspectives, it's all I have to go on and speculate.

I get very frustrated that I'll never know what that world will look like really.

[Jibartik]

"I cant see their flaws, so they must be satan worshiping cultists trading children for their blood because it gives them immortality"

what we like is for someone to be a leader who doesnt go, "well these are all good points."

Duh.

[magnetaress]

All men most certainly have flaws. His were out for all to see. That's much preferable to slimeball politicians that have been in Congress 45 years and did nothing.

The problem is Trump was a leader. Leaders invoke strong emotions. What you all like is a manager. Someone who isn't like you and knows better. Someone who just tells you what you want to hear.

Trump says a lot of things people really want to hear. He is one of the greatest positive affirmations we've had in a long ass time.

Sometimes we need to hear stuff we don't want to hear. :o

[magnetaress]

Use your illusion (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=biNGPkOVaBE)

Really good song tho, air is quiet for sure, it's kinda strange.

[Jibartik]

Could be multiple dimensions. I mean there's probably one were I suicided and never came back to the forum. Not to make it about me, but its my perspectives, it's all I have to go on and speculate.

I get very frustrated that I'll never know what that world will look like really.

_could_ be.. but we wont know in our lives time, thanks to cuckboi trump dropping the ball on the summoning of the messiah roadmap he was on, dammit.

I mean there is a shred of hope still for the biblical appocoylse still being nigh, I've heard America referred to as a republic like 100 times since that riot.

And a big part of America being the beast of the earth, is if it is in the image of the beast of the sea. The roman Republic.

Not the American democracy, we've been referring to it half the time, or more than half the time.

full on republic of the united states might get us to the mark of the beast, if the vampire blood drinking anti communist Qanon'ers are right about the left after all.

But the odds are approximately 3,720 to 1

[nostalgiaquest]

Been really enjoying reading articles about all these morons getting doxxed and fired from their jobs. One Kleetus even kept his work badge on throughout the whole thing. How stupid can you be?

[Thulian]

bitcoin going to hit 46 soon, i have no idea who is dumb enough to buy fake digital coins but hey, its 2021 now and people are more dumb then ever

[budz2112]

I was a Russia gator.

https://i.imgur.com/IK36Yvt.png

U know what.

I think I was wrong about russiagate. People drinking leftwing conspiracies as Mitch McConnell stated during previous elections did help push the needle.

Not a theory, a 2 year investigation concluded that Trump obstructed justice on 10 counts to hide if there was collusion or not. Multiple campaign officials were jailed, and recently pardoned by trump for lying for him. Nunes awarded a medal for lying for him. The corrupt AG went on live tv and lied about the findings, and Mueller himself told you he misrepresented the case. Sorry you cant accept reality. A bipartisan defense committee also concluded that russian troll farms had a highly targeted campaign to influence our social media, as well as hack public state officials emails, possibly at the instruction of trump. But keep pretending its the same thing as claiming election fraud with 60 court cases most with republican judges and trump appointed judges saying it was a joke.. kind of pathetic you would even think to compare the 2, and now your getting your info from MITCH LOLL.. Oh and I forgot the mention Russia just hacked almost every governmental and business system in this country, BUT NOOO they would never do stuff like that.. the Russians started their troll campaign right after they invaded Ukraine, and realized how well it was working so they tried it out on America, and it was their greatest tool in their history against us

[budz2112]

Wow didnt think i could ever agree with thulian on anything, but yes people who think bitcoin is the future. LOL

[Knuckle]

Wow didnt think i could ever agree with thulian on anything, but yes people who think bitcoin is the future. LOL

It is funny, but also funny that we feel the same way about paper. Difference is counterfeit money is still alive and well, not sure if counterfeit BTC has been created yet, seems to be more secure.

[budz2112]

It is funny, but also funny that we feel the same way about paper. Difference is counterfeit money is still alive and well, not sure if counterfeit BTC has been created yet, seems to be more secure.

The paper is regulated and given weight by a government

[magnetaress]

La Resurrezione, absolutely eerily gorgeous, explains the fallout games.

I love Gothic churches a lot too. IDK why.

Oh man, turns out it's in a weird building too.

Shits weird pals, Sorry if it is just so fascinating.

https://i.imgur.com/43EzbXk.png

https://www.buzzfeed.com/christopherhudspeth/tell-us-how-your-brain-remembers-these-mandela-effect?bfsource=bfocompareon

:o

[budz2112]

All men most certainly have flaws. His were out for all to see. That's much preferable to slimeball politicians that have been in Congress 45 years and did nothing.

The problem is Trump was a leader. Leaders invoke strong emotions. What you all like is a manager. Someone who isn't like you and knows better. Someone who just tells you what you want to hear.

Trump has never been a leader, not for one day. The exact opposite of one. A draft dodger more perfectly shows what trump is

[Jimjam]

The paper is regulated and given weight by a government

How does the government give weight to the dollar?

[budz2112]

How does the government give weight to the dollar?

Literally by being a government, and knowing that today, tomrow, a year, or 10 years from now it will still have its power and importance, at any moment bitcoin could drop to zero.. Now yes the dollar could too, but that would mean America had failed. Much harder for America to fail, than some random currency on the internet.

[magnetaress]

How does the government give weight to the dollar?

By avoiding insurrection (and there for new money) /s

[Caroll]

One old guy tazed himself to death trying to taze a cop apparently.

Good. These boomers all having heart attacks, tasing themselves, and going into diabetic shock prior to their act of race-hating treason and terrorism is fitting.

[TheSurgeon]

Are you saying you wanted there to be more violence and death? I wonder which candidate you supported...

I didn't vote, never have. But, cute.

[budz2112]

So you cant even do the most basic of civic responsibility yet criticize those in charge.. Just laughable

[Knuckle]

So you cant even do the most basic of civic responsibility yet criticize those in charge.. Just laughable

The govt is a joke to a lot of people, look at who they scraped together as our "Candidates" for 2016:

Hillary Clinton

Donald Trump

That's not the will of the people at work.

[Knuckle]

Literally by being a government, and knowing that today, tomrow, a year, or 10 years from now it will still have its power and importance, at any moment bitcoin could drop to zero.. Now yes the dollar could too, but that would mean America had failed. Much harder for America to fail, than some random currency on the internet.

They are actually terrified of BTC for the very reason that they initially had ZERO control over it. They have since gotten the major coin exchanges to include audit trails so you can be taxed on it the same as stocks. Trust me, the government will be deepthroating bitcoin as soon as they can dig t heir claws in a little deeper to use it for personal gain.

[budz2112]

They are actually terrified of BTC for the very reason that they initially had ZERO control over it. They have since gotten the major coin exchanges to include audit trails so you can be taxed on it the same as stocks. Trust me, the government will be deepthroating bitcoin as soon as they can dig t heir claws in a little deeper to use it for personal gain.

Than whats the point of using it over the dollar. By the way if America failed, the internet would fail and all your bitcoin would be instantly gone

[budz2112]

The govt is a joke to a lot of people, look at who they scraped together as our "Candidates" for 2016:

Hillary Clinton

Donald Trump

That's not the will of the people at work.

If you do not participate in the process the constitution and founding fathers laid out for you, you have no right to criticize it.

[Tunabros]

La Resurrezione, absolutely eerily gorgeous, explains the fallout games.

I love Gothic churches a lot too. IDK why.

Oh man, turns out it's in a weird building too.

Shits weird pals, Sorry if it is just so fascinating.

https://i.imgur.com/43EzbXk.png

https://www.buzzfeed.com/christopherhudspeth/tell-us-how-your-brain-remembers-these-mandela-effect?bfsource=bfocompareon

:o

https://i.imgur.com/50pdyIX.png

oh no

[imperiouskitten]

Wow didnt think i could ever agree with thulian on anything, but yes people who think bitcoin is the future. LOL

bitcoin is absurd but it's gonna hit 100k at least

[budz2112]

bitcoin is absurd but it's gonna hit 100k at least

Maybe, im not saying it will go away anytime soon. But it will never be a solid and trustworthy currency

[magnetaress]

Are there any markets currently using bitcoin for realz? Like not just online gambling and stuff.

I think one of the limitations to bitcoin is that it's not accessible to people without electricity or access to hardware that can run a bitcoin miner, but that will change maybe one day. I think this is one reason it hasen't taken on? You can't take ur massive bitcoin investment overseas and develop some economy with it by building a business and creating jobs unless u transfer it to the local currency or USD.

[peterpal]

I wouldn't feel too smart about buying in the last few weeks after months of green. It's going to correct eventually and punish the greed with one big red elevator downstairs.

[imperiouskitten]

why should a person feel feel stupid about doubling their money in the last month? i won't lose money, it'z called stop loss orders. I'm a bitcoin skeptic, just not a partisan for it :p

everyone should invest! why work to eat? such is suffering. multiply it. the rigged market is available to everyone, and it's the only way out of wage hell in USA

more than a little bitter i held hundreds of the things at $2/apiece in 2009 worth millions now and spent them on LSD but hey

[magnetaress]

https://i.imgur.com/50pdyIX.png

oh no

Looks like you got 3 universes left.

[peterpal]

If you took profits and put your stop loss at entry you're good. But throwing your money after more than a 10x in less than 6month is probably not the safest bet and just fomo

[imperiouskitten]

If you took profits and put your stop loss at entry you're good. But throwing your money after more than a 10x in less than 6month is probably not the safest bet and just fomo

this entire fracking market is fomo, we are in the twilight zone for the last 2 years...probably more. What can one do, wait until the next epoch while watching everyone else multiply their fortunes 10, 20, 30 times? a 50% dip smashing you will still leave you miles ahead. MMT baby

[budz2112]

Yes but that twilight zone can be explained, as I told you earlier. Its not just random, it was an effort to make a failing president look good for his reelection

[Jimjam]

If you do not participate in the process the constitution and founding fathers laid out for you, you have no right to criticize it.

Strong disagree. You don’t have to participate in something to criticise it. To be hyperbolic thats like a racist gatekeeping racism.

[imperiouskitten]

Yes but that twilight zone can be explained, as I told you earlier. Its not just random, it was an effort to make a failing president look good for his reelection

I disagree with your characterization. I think the market *was* pumped for Trump, but it's also the practice of infinite liquidity since 2009 which is behind this market. It's a 12-year cycle to my eye so far.

I am expecting consequences for our national debt/0 interest/megaliquid situation someday, but I just don't know when. We are essentially post-capitalism here; the big players are now infinitely liquid aristocratic institutions, and so who knows how the economic cycles are going to go? It seems like the stock market only balloons everytime a "crash" looms. It's a larger issue than the Trump cycle, though. That's my position anyhow, and any investor can build their portfolio to protect them in case they are blindsided. We are into the looking glass here -- capitalism ended and the citizenry was too illiterate to notice.

[budz2112]

I disagree with your characterization. I think the market *was* pumped for Trump, but it's also the practice of infinite liquidity since 2009 which is behind this market. It's a 12-year cycle to my eye so far.

I am expecting consequences for our national debt/0 interest/megaliquid situation someday, but I just don't know when. We are essentially post-capitalism here; the big players are now infinitely liquid aristocratic institutions, and so who knows how the economic cycles are going to go? It seems like the stock market only balloons everytime a "crash" looms. It's a larger issue than the Trump cycle, though. That's my position anyhow, and any investor can build their portfolio to protect them in case they are blindsided.

There was not INFINITE liquidity during Obama, you are totally off there. Interest rates were rising again and our economy was returning to normal. UNTIL trump took office. and threw the whole thing in the garbage can. you really should research more about this because it could be the difference between you gaining and keeping your investments, or losing it all

[Jimjam]

7/15, am a forin outside merka so probably fair to say my reality is alternate.

[imperiouskitten]

There was not INFINITE liquidity during Obama, you are totally off there. Interest rates were rising again and our economy was returning to normal. UNTIL trump took office. and threw the whole thing in the garbage can.

You're not wrong, but the Obama stimulus was the first experiment in huge liquidity, carried out by people still stuck on austerity dogma and a tepid public. Trump stimulus was the natural next step. There was no backlash in anointing certain institutions to be the permanent, infinitely-endowed Lords thereby ending any pretense at a fair game of capitalism, so future administrations will do the same is the current name of the game. Now, I am interested in theories as to how that will play out in the long term for sure.

[budz2112]

Strong disagree. You don’t have to participate in something to criticise it. To be hyperbolic thats like a racist gatekeeping racism.

How someone can sit here and criticize a system they wont participate in, is laughable. There is a way to change things in this country, it was spelled out by the constitution and our founding fathers. They didnt intend of a bunch of cry babies to sit on forums saying its all corrupt when you dont even have the tiniest bit of civic responsibility to vote

[Jimjam]

If I were to vote it would be fraud, mate.

[Grubbz]

Haven't posted on these forums in awhile, just came by to say to the dems that i hope your happy with the current state of things and remember you voted for whats about to happen in the next 4 years. Mandatory vaccinations, gun control, 6 month lockdowns, its all coming so get ready for it.

Oh nevermind, you guys will just blame trump for whatever happens during biden's presidency.

[budz2112]

Dont worry grubbz, as usual we will have to clean up your mess

[budz2112]

If I were to vote it would be fraud, mate.

Whats your point, that you dont live in America or that you think fraud elections only started happening in 2020

[imperiouskitten]

Haven't posted on these forums in awhile, just came by to say to the dems that i hope your happy with the current state of things and remember you voted for whats about to happen in the next 4 years. Mandatory vaccinations, gun control, 6 month lockdowns, its all coming so get ready for it.

Oh nevermind, you guys will just blame trump for whatever happens during biden's presidency.

Nice tribalism you sad, sad person. hope next time you visit you want to build bridges with your class allies who do not want a frothing, paranoid population egging on civil war to destroy our institutions.

signed, a person who was equally dubious toward Russiagate conspiracy theories delegitimizing Duly Elected POTUS Donald Trump. yes: something exists beyond you and your reflection.

[Jimjam]

Whats your point, that you dont live in America or that you think fraud elections only started happening in 2020

My point is I don’t need to have participated in something to comment on it. Weren’t you saying just yesterday that your lack of post count didn’t disqualify your posts from being of value?

[budz2112]

Off course, we were trying to stave off the 2nd great depression, WHICH would have happened if the big banks failed.Maybe we should have, Idk. But it would have led to MILLIONS of Americans losing everything they had. Trump stimulus, before covid WAS NOT NEEDED. we would have had a NATURAL correction as our economy always goes through and a bubble like right now would have never formed.

[imperiouskitten]

yeah, but what happens from here? I honestly don't know. I assume a downturn must be looming but I just don't know

[budz2112]

As I said before, Of course it is. it will depend on bidens economic policy when it happens, but it is inevitable with what has happened over the last 4 years.

[budz2112]

My point is I don’t need to have participated in something to comment on it. Weren’t you saying just yesterday that your lack of post count didn’t disqualify your posts from being of value?

Sure, but nor should your opinion be respected in any way. Not sure what post counts have to do with, a constitutional civic responsibility in a democratic process. But sure whatever you say, there the same I guess. Also it was YOU talking about post counts, not me. I said in multiple places post count is a meaningless topic to even bring up

[Cassawary]

Sure, but nor should your opinion be respected in any way.

Well said.

[cd288]

Off course, we were trying to stave off the 2nd great depression, WHICH would have happened if the big banks failed.Maybe we should have, Idk. But it would have led to MILLIONS of Americans losing everything they had. Trump stimulus, before covid WAS NOT NEEDED. we would have had a NATURAL correction as our economy always goes through and a bubble like right now would have never formed.

Don’t necessarily disagree with you but I have an unrelated question. With a Jan 2021 join date you must’ve had another account that was banned and I’m curious who you were originally

[imperiouskitten]

unique posting style. I think he's new

[budz2112]

Don’t necessarily disagree with you but I have an unrelated question. With a Jan 2021 join date you must’ve had another account that was banned and I’m curious who you were originally

As i have said your welcome to guess, but my posts dont sound like really anyone on these forums past or present. I explained why im new here, but im not new to this server

[Jimjam]

Literally by being a government, and knowing that today, tomrow, a year, or 10 years from now it will still have its power and importance, at any moment bitcoin could drop to zero.. Now yes the dollar could too, but that would mean America had failed. Much harder for America to fail, than some random currency on the internet.

Sounds like economy and society giving dollar value. Government can act as custodian to these things, but it’s not really, and shouldn’t be, in control of either. It is there to serve.

[budz2112]

Lol what, our founding fathers literally said our congress was in control of the purse, and didnt want a partly private institution such as the federal reserve.

[Jimjam]

As i have said your welcome to guess, but my posts dont sound like really anyone on these forums past or present. I explained why im new here, but im not new to this server

Welcome to the forums, you have a lot to say, which can be only a good thing.


I do suggest you try treating humans with respect by default the “I don’t need to show respect” attitude is needlessly confrontational, is getting in the way of people being able to actually discuss you and is frankly yikes.

[Jimjam]

Lol what, our founding fathers literally said our congress was in control of the purse, and didnt want a partly private institution such as the federal reserve.

Sounds like a good idea, but from your previous posts it also sounds like the value of the dollar is democratic not authoritarian.

[budz2112]

I treat anyone with respect that deserves it, trolls dont deserve respect. Nor do people who comment about how corrupt our system is, but wont even vote to change it.The one thing our founding fathers gave you the tool to do.. Sorry

[budz2112]

Sounds like a good idea, but from your previous posts it also sounds like the value of the dollar is democratic not authoritarian.

You JUST SAID it was not a good idea, that the government should not be the ones to control the currency

[imperiouskitten]

check out this guy (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nKgzWT4K_Lc)who was unironically posted on this board b4

[Jimjam]

You JUST SAID it was not a good idea, that the government should not be the ones to control the currency

I was agreeing that avoiding a private federal reserve was a good idea.

I didn’t say government should not be the ones to control the value of currency I said they are not (edit I actually did, but more saliently what i was trying to say was that they are not in control). The value is decided by the market. The government can influence that by adding or removing currency, but unless drastic action is taken that is more of a tweak than total control.

[budz2112]

Lol if we had that plan, we would be the lowest rated economy in the world, and not be able to compete in anything. Honestly what you are saying is VERY HARD to follow. You are all over the place

[Jimjam]

There was a reason I asked who controls the dollar, I’m not an economist, but I genuinely believed the dollar was a fiat currency which means it’s value isn’t dictated, but instead decided by market forces, is that wrong?

[budz2112]

Partly wrong yes, mostly controlled by the federal reserve which is a partly private institution guided by how the market is going, over the last 4 years though we have seen unprecedent government interference ( trump telling the fed chair what to do )

[Jimjam]

How do they control the value of the dollar? How are they guided by the market? Sounds a bit chicken egg.

[budz2112]

How do they control the value of the dollar? How are they guided by the market? Sounds a but chicken egg.

By controlling interest rates, and the printing of money, as well as various other measures. Members of the reserve are economists who judge the economy and recommend actions based on its showing. For example over the last 2 years they lowered the rates to 0, and started printing large amounts of money, as well as certain measures of putting cash flow into the stock market. Think buying up bonds and other things like that. I'm not an economist either, but i have a general understanding of what they do

[Jimjam]

How is printed money distributed?

[budz2112]

How is printed money distributed?

Its a good question, little more detailed. From what I understand, there are 12 federal reserve banks throughout the US, if you look on the dollar bill the numbers and stuff will say where they came from. They will first be sent to these banks, than from there distributed out to commercial banks based on certain conditions and needs.

[Jimjam]

Its a good question, little more detailed. From what I understand, there are 12 federal reserve banks throughout the US, if you look on the dollar bill the numbers and stuff will say where they came from. They will first be sent to these banks, than from there distributed out to commercial banks based on certain conditions and needs.

Banks? So through loans?

[budz2112]

Banks? So through loans?

At this point its getting a little over my head, but I would say its based on reserves commercial banks are suppose to operate with, and the account with reserves is debited by the Fed. Dont think it would be considered a loan, because those have rates on them

[Jimjam]

At this point its getting a little over my head, but I would say its based on reserves commercial banks are suppose to operate with, and the account with reserves is debited by the Fed. Dont think it would be considered a loan, because those have rates on them

Sounds kinda crazy as a way to distribute minted money, but again I’m not an economist.

I would have thought it would be spent on local infrastructure (which creates immediate jobs, and facilitates future business, boosting economy), education and primary/preventative healthcare (which prolongs the healthy working life of people and reduces longterm health costs, again boosting economy). I’m sure there must be macro reasons against this? How would you distribute printed money with an eye to protecting the dollar?

Opposite question too, how is dollar removed from the economy to control it’s value?

[budz2112]

I'm not sure on what you mean by protecting the dollar. But to remove money there are things called securities, which is also how they print the money. To print money the fed will buy securities, to take money out of circulation they will sell securities. which is essentially "buying" dollars. Once again very over my head, but i know in general thats how they do it

[Jimjam]

I’m sure Securities are a great idea designed by someone with a much better understanding than either of us.

Thank you for taking the time to enlighten and discuss with me. I told you yesterday we’d have a better time if you had a discussion about something instead of getting dragged into forum bickering ;) I hope you agree.

[budz2112]

I'm always happy to have a discussion or debate. As well as learn and inform. Anytime

[Jibartik]

JFC pelosi talking about how theyre afraid he is going to just shoot off some nukes. So they have to impeach.

Talk about the yin to a quanon's yang. :eyeroll:

The dude decapitated himself, all you have to do is let him bleed out, try to decapitate him a second time and you'll end up putting the god damn head back on.

[budz2112]

12 days, dont be naive in what that wannabe dictator can do in 12 days. look what happened in 1

[Jibartik]

I think if that were true the capitol would be in ashes already or held by the bundies.

[imperiouskitten]

it took 9 weeks of planning to execute that burst of stochastic terrorism. didn't really pan out. we are just too docile on average, even the frothing trumptards.

[budz2112]

The more desperate he is the more extreme he will be, this time he blocked our national guard and police force from securing our congress and congressman. You really think he is not willing to do more

[magnetaress]

The more desperate he is the more extreme he will be, this time he blocked our national guard and police force from securing our congress and congressman. You really think he is not willing to do more

I feel like the window of opportunity for anything to happen is pretty much passed.

No way there won't be some serious security around the inauguration. I don't think Pence will stand for more BS.

[budz2112]

Letting a president do these things without consequence is in itself a massive failure and would always be a stain on our country. Idk if Pence and our Military heads will stop him if he does something stupid, I certainly dont trust any of them though

[feniin]

Please, Trump cultists, seek help.
800-273-8255

[magnetaress]

Letting a president do these things without consequence is in itself a massive failure and would always be a stain on our country. Idk if Pence and our Military heads will stop him if he does something stupid, I certainly dont trust any of them though

Have faith in the Republic. Even if DC fell (it won't, I think) many states governments would still hold power. Not one hundred percent curious what that world looks like. But it would be far from easy for radical extremists to govern in all jurisdictions long. The people willing to fight, would quickly burn through their human capitol. And the military would institute martial law. Trump cannot remain president at this point after jan 20th? Or 19? Pretty sure that thered just be no president and command of the military would fall down the chain of command.

That'd finish Trump for good and make him an enemy of the state. He's not quite there yet (sorta, not my personal opinion, its the way I see the power elite attitude) . And he doesn't want to have trained guns on him. I hope, and also think he's capable of realizing what kind of predicament he's in and still able to act in his own enlightened self interest. Now if he plays ball, he might get out of prison time and get secret service security on the taxpayer dime. I think that's how former presidents work.

[Cassawary]

Please, Trump cultists, seek help.
800-273-8255

not okay

[Tunabros]

Hope I don't get banned for this or hated

but from a Taiwanese perspective, most of us support trump even though we are

heavily based upon democracy

this is because we believe he can end the chinese communist party and he's the only

whose got the balls to stand up against china

all democrats care is about themselves and hating on trump because he's "racist"

If Biden was president, he will be just another puppet to china's strings

I'm no expert on politics, but I believe trump staying as president can help

Taiwan be free from China

[magnetaress]

Hope I don't get banned for this or hated

but from a Taiwanese perspective, most of us support trump even though we are

heavily based upon democracy

this is because we believe he can end the chinese communist party and he's the only

whose got the balls to stand up against china

all democrats care is about themselves and hating on trump because he's "racist"

If Biden was president, he will be just another puppet to china's strings

I'm no expert on politics, but I believe trump staying as president can help

Taiwan be free from China

Not a chance until jan 2025.

Game is over for him until the next election. And he's lost a lot of support. Americans aren't willing or able at this point I think to make the necessary economic changes and sacrifices to exist independently from China. It would mean an end to Walmart. As evidenced by the last 4yrs both parties really aren't. Our president also just isn't that powerful. The best presidents can really do is Veto stuff, essentially block legislation. And usually only temporarily in bipartisan cases.

Maybe in 15 years if both parties encouraged it and worked hard.

Wouldn't that screw Taiwan though too? You'd lose our economy as well. The best thing would for both our parties to take a real interest in regulating businesses so that buying produce from Florida is preferable for Floridan supermarkets, for example. That's a state issue and not really the purview of the Federal government which has just essentially been overstepping its bounds of late.

The US aside from its military, spy, and national security apparatus is essentially a bunch of small countries. You want the rich bad guys using our intelligence to thwart China, and honestly, I think Trumps military was way less effective than Dr. Evils or Obamas at doing sneaky effective stuff.

[Tunabros]

but it looks like the liberals want China ruling over the world again rip

and people supporting trump can't control themselves and everyone for that matter

[booter]

that's just an alt right talking point and not actually reality, the us government has been in support of a sovereign taiwan and has sold military equipment and done joint training with you guys for the past several administrations

no you wont get banned for expressing those opinions, the people who are being banned were posting actual racist comments that have been deleted

hth (hope that helps)

[HalflingSpergand]

All presidents are puppets my taiwanese friend

[Tunabros]

https://i.imgur.com/HBz7oar.png

because of China, Taiwan is forced to call themselves "the republic of China"

and China thinks they own us

and they make the rest of the world think so even though we are an independent

country

and trump is the only who can stop china, he even recognized Taiwan as an independent

the country just to spite China

liberals are gonna ruin America because they think Trump is "racist" and the riots in

the captial building isn't helping :/

why must people riot

[budz2112]

All trumps little red hats, say made in china. All the cheap junk in trumps hotels, say made in china. You wanna keep pretending?

[Tunabros]

here's the thing with liberals:

remember when Hong Kong was going crazy against China?

Well liberals called it "peaceful" even though it wasn't really

While Trump supporters stormed the capitol building, they called it a riot

like just lol

people only care for themselves no matter what political party

everyone always has to be so astute even I can be sometimes

[Tunabros]

All trumps little red hats, say made in china. All the cheap junk in trumps hotels, say made in china. You wanna keep pretending?

exactly, we're all slaves to China

they're a powerhouse within the global powers

no one can stop them except trump

Biden is just gonna suck up to them and fuck things up

again, just my opinion

[budz2112]

Magna why do you people still 4 years of all this, still not realize trump is NOT CAPABLE OF REALIZING ANYTHING.

[Cassawary]

https://i.imgur.com/HBz7oar.png

because of China, Taiwan is forced to call themselves "the republic of China"

and China thinks they own us

and they make the rest of the world think so even though we are an independent

country

and trump is the only who can stop china, he even recognized Taiwan as an independent

the country just to spite China

liberals are gonna ruin America because they think Trump is "racist" and the riots in

the captial building isn't helping :/

why must people riot

abrogating the detente seems like a good idea because you're 22, but you'll just have to settle for being free.

who cares what china thinks?

[budz2112]

No thats not exactly, you said he stands up to china. NO, he uses his power to get deals with china for cheap garbage for him and his daughters business. Dont be so naive

[Tunabros]

I'm being kinda biases here but I really do not like China's GOVERNMENT (not their

people)

and I'm pretty sure a lot of people think the same way and the chinise communist

party should be toppled down

[Tunabros]

Again, I'm no expert on American politics so please correct me if I'm wrong

currently I'm in Taiwan right now and I get most of information off the media so depending on the political party of that media, I can't really see both sides

[budz2112]

Let me inform you, you are wrong.

[Cassawary]

Again, I'm no expert on American politics so please correct me if I'm wrong

currently I'm in Taiwan right now and I get most of information off the media so depending on the political party of that media, I can't really see both sides

are there CCP soldiers in the streets? there would be.

don't rock the boat baby!

[HalflingSpergand]

Let me inform you, you are wrong. The trump govt, is a great replication of the Chinese govt

Uve officially been INFORMED

[Tunabros]

still think trump being president will save america and the world

democrats are too lazy to learn the truth and get all their information from instagram

[budz2112]

Remember trump said he wishes the president had the powers of dictators in the world. Think, shouldnt be used to describe what you are saying. More like follow

[HalflingSpergand]

No we don't we're not obsessed with trump

[Tunabros]

but I don't know Im still young and I'm probably wrong or missing details

again, I'm in taiwan so I don't the juicy details

[Tunabros]

No we don't we're not obsessed with trump

well maybe not the older people, but my classmates in high school and university are

always spamming things on Instagram about how trump is corrupt and racist

not even exaggerating

[budz2112]

"but I dont know" yeah you dont.

[magnetaress]

Reread my edits. Trump telegraphed all his moves and is terrible with a katana. He can't defeat China. Certainly not while dividing what is left of our Republic and furthering it from a Federation that can stand united against China.

American's are nothing like Asians when it comes to loyalty or unified action. We are even accused of being chaotic unpredictable barbarians when we fought in World War Two because we are, or were at least, really decentralized. Almost never is one person always calling the shots for everything all at once. Not even in our Military.

This recent period with so much attention even focused on a single politician is all new to us. Normally we ignore our government. But its been getting harder as the Federal government has been getting more powerful at a pace faster than anyone, of either party, I feel is comfortable with.

[Cassawary]

but I don't know Im still young and I'm probably wrong or missing details

again, I'm in taiwan so I don't the juicy details

upsetting the status quo is more likely to get you invaded than...how do i say this to a young person..."respecting the drip"?

:)

[Tunabros]

upsetting the status quo is more likely to get you invaded than...how do i say this to a young person..."respecting the drip?"

:)

if we get invaded, i'm gonna kill myself

taiwan culture is wayyyyy different than china's culture

[HalflingSpergand]

upsetting the status quo is more likely to get you invaded than...how do i say this to a young person..."respecting the drip"?

:)

Code deciphered : join the libs fence sitter

[Cassawary]

taiwan culture is wayyyyy different than china's culture

Was Chiang Kai-Shek a Fascist? (https://www.reddit.com/r/history/comments/96jnxj/was_chiang_kaishek_a_fascist/)

[budz2112]

You really think Trump cares about Taiwan even for a millisecond? Lol he doesnt even care about America. Please wake up

[HalflingSpergand]

Hes an actress it does what its told

[Tunabros]

Was Chiang Kai-Shek a Fascist? (https://www.reddit.com/r/history/comments/96jnxj/was_chiang_kaishek_a_fascist/)

thats like a billion years ago

[Tunabros]

again, just my opinions so dont get pissed off

lets not get anyone banned and keep political talk civilized

after all, we all have the freedom of speech

[budz2112]

This is a server forum, this has nothing to do with freedom of speech, it has to do with following the rules. Freedom of speech was created so people had the right to speak up against their leader

[Cassawary]

thats like a billion years ago

You don't like the drip?

https://i.imgur.com/UZlQ8uI.jpg

[magnetaress]

You should at least learn to blend with the Chinese Tunabros. Only you have the power to save yourself. Knowledge and skill is powerful. You could even change Chinese culture to be more hospitable within through gentle and subtle measures. Who knows you could make a good life for yourself. An ant that bites a man does so in ignorance and desperation. Devoid of even knowing what a man is.

Take it from someone who understands adversity and not being in the dominant or powerful position. It sure feels good to rear your mandibles, roar, and be a powerful ant. But it just makes you a simple ant.

Humans have the capacity to be greater than what we were born into or given.

[Tunabros]

You don't like the drip?

https://i.imgur.com/UZlQ8uI.jpg

pretty drip ngl

but still

[budz2112]

But seriously Idk if your trolling or truly believe what you are saying, but i can 100% guarantee you, trump has never thought about Taiwan for 1 millisecond. Never, not once. All his ambitions are about himself, only and always

[Tunabros]

But seriously Idk if your trolling or truly believe what you are saying, but i can 100% guarantee you, trump has never thought about Taiwan for 1 millisecond. Never, not once. All his ambitions are about himself, only and always

just saying his actions will benefit taiwan

pretty sure he doesn't give a shit about us but at least he fucks with china, which we

think is funny :p

[budz2112]

China has grown more powerful, and America weaker under trump

[HalflingSpergand]

again, just my opinions so dont get pissed off

lets not get anyone banned and keep political talk civilized

after all, we all have the freedom of speech

We dont have freedom of speech

[magnetaress]

Xi sat Trump down in private with a bunch of scowling generals on our side (not at Xi, at Trump). And I don't think the fancy silver ware was laid out for use, just show. Trump went to China for this rebuke, sat at Xi's table (when does he even do that, Mar-a-lago is his jam). Does he even like or eat Chinese food? Vassals go to their masters, not the other way around. They didn't come here to sue for peace. They made him go there to receive an ultimatum.

Things were quiet for a good 6 months. Then Covid. Mattis quit or resigned. Then Choas. The U.S. economy has suffered more than the Chinese. While the Chinese government has been really patient with us screaming "china virus ".

I honestly think we lost a new kind of war to China under Trumps presidency with zero shots fired. China took way less damage. And the terms were that we'd play ball.

Meanwhile the last 4 years China has seen massive investment and research and development. Most of the rich people driving Americas economy now hold major capital, assets, influence in China and aren't really dependent on even being American citizens or beholden to American interests, except that we buy the cheep stuff they produce cheeply through China. We're convenient. Lookit Disney lol. It's a Chinese company. It's cheep and profitable to do research and massive construction or industrial projects in China now. America further lost that edge under Trump. Our expertise and skill is no longer exceptional or unique, and a large project here could be burned down in a few years by angry mobs. China does not have this problem. Really. On any meaningful scale. Our colleges and educational institutions just spent the last four years being attacked or privatized in favor of private religious institutions. We took a heavy blow to our collective ability to reason and produce intelligent, clever, artful, skillful citizens.

You can't expect America to save you. Not even Trump can. Or would at his expense.

It's been gg for a long time. Old greybeards are just super slow at catching up. We have lost badly.

[Tunabros]

We dont have freedom of speech

what makes you say that

just curious im not familiar with this

[HalflingSpergand]

We're not allowed to say whatever we want

[budz2112]

Thats not what freedom of speech means, a private company does not have to give you the right to say anything on their product

Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.

It was designed so people ALWAYS could stand up to the current president, or people in power. "peacefully assemble" Key words, notice how the right wing protests always come with non peaceful tools

[Tunabros]

We're not allowed to say whatever we want

so the amendments are just for show?

[HalflingSpergand]

They are meaningless in practice. Maybe at one time they were functional but i highly doubt it

[budz2112]

They are meaningless in practice. Maybe at one time they were functional but i highly doubt it

What law that congress has passed has stopped your ability at freedom of speech? If i recall it was trump who said he was going to shut all the liberal media down

[Tunabros]

guess we're really doomed nice knowing you guys

[budz2112]

Nope for the first time in 4 years, we have some hope.

[magnetaress]

guess we're really doomed nice knowing you guys

Do you know any Mandarin yet?

Nope for the first time in 4 years, we have some hope.

We shouldn't rely solely on Biden's administration or the democratic party at all. They are not going to really fix whats wrong. Even if they wholeheartedly wanted to they don't have the power. American's need to do that regardless of party affiliation or government.

[HalflingSpergand]

guess we're really doomed nice knowing you guys

No it's fine actually

[GinnasP99]

guess we're really doomed nice knowing you guys

Peace out. I'll be working out, smoking weed, working 12 hour shifts and skateboarding.

[Tunabros]

Do you know any Mandarin yet?




I was born in Taiwan lol

I know mandarin, taiwanese, and japanese

[budz2112]

They will fix a corrupt federal government, and thats a start.

[Tunabros]

but who gives a shit nothing trump or any president has done even effected me

people who think otherwise is just hoes mad (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J6oTIjvw_-8&ab_channel=NoMoreHeroes)

[Cassawary]

I was born in Taiwan lol

I know mandarin, taiwanese, and japanese

Have you ever been to Dokdo?

[magnetaress]

I was born in Taiwan lol

I know mandarin, taiwanese, and japanese
You'll be fine. We are super adaptable creatures.
They will fix a corrupt federal government, and thats a start.
Uhmmm... *deep breaths*. I hope so to 🙏

[budz2112]

Lol Obama and Biden were in charge for 8 years, and nothing they did was to empower themselves or people of power.. You may not agree with them on many things, but they were not corrupt

[magnetaress]

Lol Obama and Biden were in charge for 8 years, and nothing they did was to empower themselves or people of power.. You may not agree with them on many things, but they were not corrupt

I can't play what ifs. I don't want handouts. But I believe something better than the ACA could exist. Food banks a jobs and civics program and schools could replace food stamps. Forced sterilization should be a thing, especially where abuse, violence, or drugs are involved. We should be honest about dwindling resources, our shrinking economy. Mental illness. Drugs. And immigration.

The civics program could start by building public parks, gyms, and health and wellness centers.

We should ration healthcare and people should be prioritized lower if they do terrible things and make terrible choices. Right now we subsidize unhealthy decadence and gluttony, even through private healthcare and ER visits from the uninsured. Punishing healthy people who should be at the top of our priority for healthcare.

It's time to let nature take its course in the sick and infirm.

[budz2112]

we can all debate certain policy and come up with something in the middle, but at the end of the day when you have corrupt federal government, like trumps, none of the middle can ever be accomplished. Its why nothing ever got done during the last 4 years, and no a person body is their own, and you have no right to force them to do anything with it
Every person has a right to healthcare, no matter what choices they make. But im not here to argue over policy

[magnetaress]

we can all debate certain policy and come up with something in the middle, but at the end of the day when you have corrupt federal government, like trumps, none of the middle can ever be accomplished. Its why nothing ever got done during the last 4 years, and no a person body is their own, and you have no right to force them to do anything with it

No one has a right to a triple bypass surgery.

After abusing or neglecting one child, someone should be imprisoned for life or put to death, capitol punishment is necessary for life ending crimes. Not given the freedom to have more. If you don't think child abuse or neglect is life ending. I can't help you.

Sterilization is actually far more gentle. Then allowing children to suffer. Children have rights too.

[azeth]

Mandatory vaccinations

personal opinion - good. am i a doctor or someone that anyone should accept medical advice from? no.

gun control

tough one. adam lanza shouldnt have had access to his rifle. unless anyone proposes a way to prevent that exact person from accessing that weapon in that state of mind, then we all suffer. thats the way it is.

6 month lockdowns

is this a comment on pandemic restrictions? sorry your kid can't play hockey this season, and you can't hit up the Mon Kou for Mai Tais on saturday nights.

[Cassawary]

I can't play what ifs. I don't want handouts. But I believe something better than the ACA could exist. Food banks a jobs and civics program and schools could replace food stamps. Forced sterilization should be a thing, especially where abuse, violence, or drugs are involved. We should be honest about dwindling resources, our shrinking economy. Mental illness. Drugs. And immigration.

The civics program could start by building public parks, gyms, and health and wellness centers.

We should ration healthcare and people should be prioritized lower if they do terrible things and make terrible choices. Right now we subsidize unhealthy decadence and gluttony, even through private healthcare and ER visits from the uninsured. Punishing healthy people who should be at the top of our priority for healthcare.

It's time to let nature take its course in the sick and infirm.

https://i.imgur.com/3sNPQvV.gif

[Mblake81]

Sure, but nor should your opinion be respected in any way. Not sure what post counts have to do with, a constitutional civic responsibility in a democratic process. But sure whatever you say, there the same I guess. Also it was YOU talking about post counts, not me. I said in multiple places post count is a meaningless topic to even bring up

Because you are on a message board with its own culture you goodie two-shoe.

[budz2112]

Actually they do in the United States, love it or hate it. Of course civic programs, and healthcare programs should advice for healthy programs, and using contraception. But you have no right to have a government tell you how to eat, or force body changes. Now taxing foods that are extremely unhealthy IS a possibility but that just affects the poor, and lets the rich get away with stuff.

[magnetaress]

If you knew how many trillions get pissed away to keep a barely conscious and in insane amounts of pain person alive in a puddle of their own colostomy drippings. We could probably afford to keep them alive, but not at free market prices.

You would likely consider my position.

Our entire Healthcare industry is designed to farm the sick. For every penny they have, and then some from the deficit. It's completely off the rails.

Criminals don't have the right to make babies. It's against prison rules. That's a privilege only responsible adults should be free to earn.

[feniin]

It's certainly odd how many traitors and seditionists are digging their heels in to support a conman and pseudochristian wahhabist death cult

[feniin]

You got 5 out of 15 right!
Hey, you could've done worse.
Vaguely remembering stuff is hard enough as it is, so perhaps you're just a little iffy on the details! Or, you're from an alternate reality. Either way, no big deal.

[imperiouskitten]

self respecting words *nods sagely*

[Cassawary]

If you knew how many trillions get pissed away to keep a barely conscious and in insane amounts of pain person alive in a puddle of their own colostomy drippings. We could probably afford to keep them alive, but not at free market prices.

You would likely consider my position.

Our entire Healthcare industry is designed to farm the sick. For every penny they have, and then some from the deficit. It's completely off the rails.

Criminals don't have the right to make babies. It's against prison rules. That's a privilege only responsible adults should be free to earn.

https://i.imgur.com/hVPczTL.jpg

[Mblake81]

Reminds me what's her-name in brotherhood of the wolf.

(i am wearing a fungi under this BP)

[Cassawary]

you're in an alternate reality if you don't recognize brand logos to the finest detail

[magnetaress]

https://i.imgur.com/hVPczTL.jpg

I dress much more subtly. No iron cross either.

And I do believe we could codify the sterilization procedure through the criminal system as a punishment that isn't cruel and unusual. Appropriate, proportional to the crimes it should punish. Abuse. Neglect. Drugs.

Life is hard. It isn't fair. People should get one chance. An education. And an opportunity to make some healthy habits. Not 20 chances when the world is on fire. We should reward exceptionalism. People have a right to understand the cost of screwing up and should be held accountable.

Maybe some day we can experiment with absolute freedom, but I no longer believe in such an ideal.

I believe simply in equality, justice, and merit. I'm all for ensuring the law gets applied equally regardless of socioeconomic status, religion, genome, or creed.

[Cassawary]

I dress much more subtly. No iron cross either.

And I do believe we could codify the sterilization procedure through the criminal system as a punishment that isn't cruel and unusual and appropriate, proportional to the crimes it should punish. Abuse. Neglect. Drugs.

Life is hard. It isn't fair. People should get one chance. An education. And an opportunity to make some healthy habits. Not 20 chances when the world is on fire. We should reward exceptionalism. People have a right to understand the cost of screwing up and should be held accountable.

Maybe some day we can experiment with absolute freedom, but I no longer believe in such an ideal.

I believe simply equality, justice, and merit. I'm all for ensuring the law gets applied equally regardless of socioeconomic status, religion, genome, or creed.

stinky fascist

[imperiouskitten]

distress oozes out in the ugliest words

[magnetaress]

stinky fascist

I'll submit. You're not wrong.

I try to also be magnanimous, just, generally tolerant towards diversity, and gentle. Though hard choices must be made in life.

I probably am Fascist. And Tyrannical. I believe we can be strict, disciplined, just, efficient. Cautious. Thoughtful. Preventative. Honorable. Without being racist or prejudiced, or bigoted.

Thanks for listening to my reasoning. You absolutely don't have to agree and I appreciate many other viewpoints to counterbalance and temper my own.

[imperiouskitten]

you are just saying mean words because you harbor meanness in your heart in proportion to your suffering. you dont have any strongly held opinions, you just wanna do and say bad things and hurt people. that's my gut hot take anyway

[imperiouskitten]

I mean yeah, uh, hail hitler and sterilize them all, because my closely held logic arrived me here. The wisdum of ages

[Cassawary]

I'll submit. You're not wrong.

I try to also be magnanimous, just, generally tolerant towards diversity, and gentle. Though hard choices must be made in life.

I probably am Fascist. And Tyrannical. I believe we can be strict, disciplined, just, efficient. Cautious. Thoughtful. Preventative. Honorable. Without being racist or prejudiced, or bigoted.

Thanks for listening to my reasoning. You absolutely don't have to agree and I appreciate many other viewpoints to counterbalance and temper my own.

The best time to shower is everyday. The second best time to shower is now.

[imperiouskitten]

qcqOgnQyXp4?t=48

timestamp 48s (https://youtu.be/qcqOgnQyXp4?t=48), ree how do you embed that >_>

[magnetaress]

The best time to shower is everyday. The second best time to shower is now.

I actually tried to kill myself. And came very, very close. I didn't post alot or talk publicly a lot about my most recent attempt. Because I don't feel like defending myself or my reasoning. Or being judged by the strange and abstract, potentially divine personal experience I had with what you might see as quantum suicide or a trip through the multiverse with angels, demons, and spirits in the crudest sense.. It's kind of a struggle to lean back from that ledge after near death. Now that my curiosity is piqued. Like I said. I question if I'm even alive. You said, cotard. Remember?

Really. I hold myself to these high standards. I am not worthy of life or consideration. It's taken a lot of effort to continue living? despite all this.

Maybe I do so simply out of an egocentric vanity.

I appreciate your temperance. I don't want my voice, my way, or my beliefs and experiences to be the sole arbiter of human existence. Im glad to talk about my thoughts. And vote. That's more than enough.

I require nothing.

[Cassawary]

I actually tried to kill myself. And came very, very close. I didn't post alot or talk publicly a lot about my most recent attempt. Because I don't feel like defending myself or my reasoning. Or being judged by the strange and abstract, potentially divine personal experience I had with quantum suicide. It's kind of a struggle to lean back from that ledge after near death. Now that my curiosity is piqued.

Really. I hold myself to these high standards. I am not worthy of life or consideration. It's taken a lot of effort to continue living despite all this.

Maybe I do so simply out of an egocentric vanity.

I appreciate your temperance. I don't want my voice, my way, or my beliefs and experiences to be the sole arbiter of human existence. Im glad to talk about my thoughts. And vote. That's more than enough.

I require nothing.

didn't read, go take a shower

[Cassawary]

qcqOgnQyXp4?t=48

timestamp 48s (https://youtu.be/qcqOgnQyXp4?t=48), ree how do you embed that >_>

i see from the markup you tried, i guess that's not a thing!

[Jibartik]

qcqOgnQyXp4?t=48

timestamp 48s (https://youtu.be/qcqOgnQyXp4?t=48), ree how do you embed that >_>

oh SNAP! we can embed youtubes???!

KBjhAqXg8MY

OH MY GOD!

[DoodyLich666]

Peace out. I'll be working out, smoking weed, working 12 hour shifts and skateboarding.

That’s the right idea. That sounds like a happy life, and I plan on doing very similar.

[magnetaress]

didn't read, go take a shower

Already did.

[Cassawary]

Already did.

K, it's past midnight. No more posting til you shower again.

:cool:

[magnetaress]

K, it's past midnight. No more posting til you shower again.

:cool:

Or what? I'm already sterile AND drug free. What more could you do to me? :rolleyes:

Don't fret. I spend very little animus on how things "should" or "could" be. Each day is a frickin miracle.

Nn, Cassawary.

[Jimjam]

Or what? I'm already sterile AND drug free. What more could you do to me? :rolleyes:

Don't fret. I spend very little animus on how things "should" or "could" be. Each day is a frickin miracle.

Nn, Cassawary.

You put your money where your mouth is so at least you have integrity.


I’m always surprised by how much common ground I share with facists. I remember always telling Tepplar I agreed with many things he said, it seemed to infuriate him.

Regarding healthcare, my view is it exists to keep workers working. Whether through preventative, primary or something more intensive. I guess my death panel is ‘will this treatment extend the healthy working life of this person long enough that their extra productivity will cover the cost?’.

[Arvan]

You put your money where your mouth is so at least you have integrity.


I’m always surprised by how much common ground I share with facists. I remember always telling Tepplar I agreed with many things he said, it seemed to infuriate him.

Regarding healthcare, my view is it exists to keep workers working. Whether through preventative, primary or something more intensive. I guess my death panel is ‘will this treatment extend the healthy working life of this person long enough that their extra productivity will cover the cost?’.

People’s lives are worth more than just the labor they produce for a capitalist hope this helps

[Jimjam]

People’s lives are worth more than just the labor they produce for a capitalist hope this helps

Don’t really disagree, tbh, just providing the baseline of what would be fiscally negligent to fail to provide. States and corporations are stakeholders in workers being healthy.

Going beyond this becomes an more of a social and ethical dilemma so doesn’t have such clear answers.

[bubur]

It's certainly odd how many traitors and seditionists are digging their heels in to support a conman and pseudochristian wahhabist death cult

excuse me? are you saying wasabi is unacceptable now?

there's a special place in hell for you antisemitic bigots

[magnetaress]

Yeah. Im not a heartless soulless death machine.

I just believe there's a profound difference between:

A right to life.

And

A right to life at any cost.

I see that our world, country, and humans have limitations. I believe respecting and understanding these collective limits in a completely fair and just way is the most pragmatic and gentle means of saving our species and planet. Or at least those who can also respect their limits, and our worlds and nations limits.

I bare absolutely no malice toward any individual or groups. Certainly not anymore. I think you can all see this now. This isn't about what I want. A personal agenda. Vengeance. Pride. Identity. Or my own ego. I just want to help everyone have some freedom. Some opportunity. A chance at a peaceful and meaningful life. This is my wisdom speaking. I know it's terrifying, but humanity needs to face this in themselves. It is not up to me whether people suffer or prosper. I only wish to help.

Eventually most people will come to these conclusions. Whether it be in my lifetime or a million. If people don't. No one will be able to sustain life on this planet or any freedom at any reasonable cost.

I'm a pragmatist.

God bless.

[magnetaress]

The guy in battle rattle with zipties. (https://www.newyorker.com/news/news-desk/an-air-force-combat-veteran-breached-the-senate/amp)

[Cassawary]

Police arrest Florida man (https://www.miamiherald.com/news/state/florida/article248390100.html)

https://i.imgur.com/jOLVIEr.jpg

[Jibartik]

Police arrest Florida man (https://www.miamiherald.com/news/state/florida/article248390100.html)

https://i.imgur.com/jOLVIEr.jpg

i thought that was leonardo dicaprio

[Knuckle]

Johnson is a stay-at-home-dad who lives with his wife and their five children in their Parrish home.

Thats about your typical p99 raider right there.

[feniin]

Johnson is a stay-at-home-dad who lives with his wife and their five children in their Parrish home.

Thats about your typical p99 raider right there.

Someone check <Freedom>, wouldn't be surprised if a few of their members are suddenly MIA :o

[magnetaress]

Who here is a part of the FBI? We going to get a permanent police presence on the forums soon ya think?

[Jibartik]

Well, if the left IS controlled by satan, this whole event is what they need to setup the surveillance state/mark of the beast!

So we got that going for us...

Which is nice.

[Cassawary]

The hell where youth and laughter go (https://mobile.twitter.com/joshscampbell/status/1347749675777011714)

[Gravydoo II]

but rush limbaugh said that republicans dont even know how to loot.. like, they dont even know how to set fires. They have no concept of theft or looting, incapable of doing it. So, it couldnt have been them. Must have been satan.

[Lune]

The hell where youth and laughter go (https://mobile.twitter.com/joshscampbell/status/1347749675777011714)

I guess Blue Lives Matter is just another racist dog whistle, just another rejection of black people rather than an endorsement of cops.

[Jibartik]

reading the replies to that tweet, it bugs me listening to people say "never thought id see this at the capitol" dude peoples lives are ripped to the ground and set on fire on main street for 100 days last year for christ sakes.

NeVERUrhTOUght ID SeedISs at aSTATE run BUILidinG!

jesus people are fricken stupid.

Im not picking a side here other than, if you say that you're a dipshit.

[magnetaress]

reading the replies to that tweet, it bugs me listening to people say "never thought id see this at the capitol" dude peoples lives are ripped to the ground and set on fire on main street for 100 days last year for christ sakes.

NeVERUrhTOUght ID SeedISs at aSTATE run BUILidinG!

jesus people are fricken stupid.

Im not picking a side here other than, if you say that you're a dipshit.

I saw this coming in 2013 for fucks sake at the very least. I felt it as I been disgruntled and was in the military long before that in order to deal with this exact situation from a position of power and authority. I changed my ways, but ya this is a long running thread and it's easy for prickly people with some spidey sense to pick up on it.

[Jibartik]

Me on wed = hahaha this is hilarious

dad = This is a big deal!!!

me = lol welcome to what I was telling you when I was 12, idiot.

[Jimjam]

Police arrest Florida man (https://www.miamiherald.com/news/state/florida/article248390100.html)

https://i.imgur.com/jOLVIEr.jpg

Was that DKP or loot council?

Also, the file name of that jpg is amazing, wasn't jOLVIEr a political comedian from the daily show?

[imperiouskitten]

i just wanna do hoodrat stufff w my frens

[Gwaihir]

Was that DKP or loot council?

Also, the file name of that jpg is amazing, wasn't jOLVIEr a political comedian from the daily show?

The sad part is the dude in front of him. He got all worked up into a fervor over imagination land episode 4 and didn't realize that his whole guided tour through the Capitol was all just an elaborate ruse for the photo op of the dude behind him.

Like,he legitimately had no idea he was being cast as an unpaid extra on this episode of clown world lol

[imperiouskitten]

Police arrest Florida man (https://www.miamiherald.com/news/state/florida/article248390100.html)

https://i.imgur.com/jOLVIEr.jpg

FLORIDA MAN to the rescue! i was just gonna post this :p

[feniin]

Was that DKP or loot council?

Also, the file name of that jpg is amazing, wasn't jOLVIEr a political comedian from the daily show?

Definitely ninja looted that

[DoodyLich666]

Lectern not up.

[magnetaress]

dark theoryI think a part of the issue is we don't have a frontier and the Federal government keeps these people in too much of a check to really get it out of their system. So they hit 25... and it's all over from there, especially if they are lucky and get a few big enough paychecks to do drugs/guns and online radicalization..

We need to designate a few states as a no-mans-land, and build a giant wall around them, and shove these people in there. - we would but like Wyoming has a lot of natural resources. So it would cost money and cause us to have to go through a warzone for our copper tubings. Also the people in Wyoming don't really want these fools.

I think they would eventually develop a unique and interesting civilization however. Something cool. These people aren't dumb. Or incapable. They got a lot of energy, and will, it's just left misdirected and usurped.

They are just frustrated, left behind, abused, full of testosterone, virgins, etc, not that they deserve to get laid, they deserve to be virgins in the giant moonsized penal colony we should build tho. So they can work it out and turn each other into waifus.

They really could become good people. They even have the potential to fulfil their dreams of being guardians and protectors, but they aren't nurtured properly into this role and compensated.

this is the kind of stock that got sent to colonize and wipe out the American natives, they are very efficient at that kind of thing, lil zerglinz, breed like rabbits, unfortunately, no wolves so to speak to gobble them down and cull the herds

[imperiouskitten]

dark theoryI think a part of the issue is we don't have a frontier and the Federal government keeps these people in too much of a check to really get it out of their system. So they hit 25... and it's all over from there, especially if they are lucky and get a few big enough paychecks to do drugs/guns and online radicalization..

We need to designate a few states as a no-mans-land, and build a giant wall around them, and shove these people in there. - we would but like Wyoming has a lot of natural resources. So it would cost money and cause us to have to go through a warzone for our copper tubings. Also the people in Wyoming don't really want these fools.

I think they would eventually develop a unique and interesting civilization however. Something cool. These people aren't dumb. Or incapable. They got a lot of energy, and will, it's just left misdirected and usurped.

They are just frustrated, left behind, abused, full of testosterone, virgins, etc, not that they deserve to get laid, they deserve to be virgins in the giant moonsized penal colony we should build tho. So they can work it out and turn each other into waifus.

They really could become good people. They even have the potential to fulfil their dreams of being guardians and protectors, but they aren't nurtured properly into this role and compensated.

this is the kind of stock that got sent to colonize and wipe out the American natives, they are very efficient at that kind of thing, lil zerglinz, breed like rabbits, unfortunately, no wolves so to speak to gobble them down and cull the herds

yeea i know pepole could die but its fun. it fun to do bad tangs

[Knuckle]

why should a person feel feel stupid about doubling their money in the last month? i won't lose money, it'z called stop loss orders. I'm a bitcoin skeptic, just not a partisan for it :p

everyone should invest! why work to eat? such is suffering. multiply it. the rigged market is available to everyone, and it's the only way out of wage hell in USA

more than a little bitter i held hundreds of the things at $2/apiece in 2009 worth millions now and spent them on LSD but hey

don't stop loss orders only work if there are buyers at that price point? I think depending on your volume you could theoretically drop multiple tiers unless there is some sort of guarantee outside of a random buyer agreeing at X number during a dip.

I pulled out my BTC over the summer after holding for quite a few years for a tidy sum, did not predict the shitshow of the last 2 months making people leap at dollar alternatives for diversification during political instability.

[Tunabros]

when you guys talk about politics its just drugs

[HalflingSpergand]

Politics is a drug, good catch taiwanese brethren

[imperiouskitten]

tru *cranks up vape wattage*

[Shourty]

I quit listening to the news years ago so this one slipped by me. The first I heard of it was tonight while watching UTube vids. I saw this one: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VbL0gw8LRlM
I may get kicked from the forum if things here go as they are on other social platforms.

[Shourty]

I noticed that the police took down the barriers and held the doors open for the folks. That was nice of them.

[Gwaihir]

I noticed that the police took down the barriers and held the doors open for the folks. That was nice of them.

They were just doing that to protect damages to the barrier. /Sarcasm

The entire charade was more tame then a late 90s Pantera concert